death to /USApol/
>>2642907>America since 1865 has been a fully formed liberal democracy and class struggle is not possible in a fully formed liberal democracyThe Battle Of Blair Mountain and the Great Strike of 1877 did not occur. They were not class struggle. They were fake and gay. It didn't happen.
he will move the goalpost again >>2642977We have to gulag the terminally online
If you were actually serious about class struggle you would pack up and move to a country where that actually happens
>>2642982The strike of 1877 was literally a race riot
>>2642988That’s a pedophile intellectual
>>2642986was the battle of blair mountain also a race riot?
>>2642988More embarrassing than that is that some people unironically think that you can have a capitalist society (or any class society) without class struggle.
>>2642985What would be the material benefit to not bumping it?
Anyway, since you hook-addicts are having a bait problem, go collect some nyetposting images from the booru. Solve your damn problem.
>>2642993If proletarian revolution in America or anywhere in the NATO plus sphere was possible it would have happened
Yeah the online left is gay
The anarchists may not know about this or that but at least they feed people, even the libs honk their horns at ice occasionally cause someone to escape torture dettention
What to you waste of space do?
>>2642996>things can only happen if they have already happened beforemost retarded and unfalsifiable horseshit i have ever heard.
>>2642999If you think you’re getting socialism after you spent the last 500 years raping the rest of the earth you’re more deluded than any fox news grandpa, they at least understand their settler class interests
>>2642999It’s been 150 years, where is the proletariat or its political party?
>>2642997I would reply with the various org work I do, including education and agitation, for multiple orgs, but I am not a burger.
I'm scared
>>2642998You left out the part where the strikers lynched every chinese person in San Francisco
>>2643005That’s because you fell for kayfabe
>>2642984that's retarded lol wut
>>2643007No it's because I'm trans
>>2643009Even worse, you fell for gender kayfabe (sarcasm)
>>2642996That's quite the tautology you've got there
>>2642984i think you should become employed at the local mcdonalds, thanks
>>2643007you sound like a fucking pussy. try telling that to my momu who died during the pandemic or my brother who lost a testacle during the Chaz raid
>>2643015I worked at Wendy’s, they offer a 401k
Unironically the most successful example of class struggle in the United States in all its 250 years of existing was the Tulsa Riots. The one time the working class actually rose up against the bourgeoisie. Only they didn’t do it because they were bourgeoisie, but because they were black
It takes provoking an American’s genocidal racism to get him anywhere close to seizing the means of production lol
>>2642998is that from the Eric Foner book?
>>2643006that is literally acknowledged in the image. you're ignoring what I'm showing you on purpose.
>Although in San Francisco the strike degenerated into anti-Chinese rioting, elsewhere it achieved the remarkable spirit of solidarity that transcended divisions of skill, ethnicity, and race. In St. Louis, Louisville, and other cities, rallies and marches brought together "white and colored men, … men of all nationalities in one supreme contest for the common rights of workingmen." At the same time the Great Strike revealed the political power and collective consciousness of the urban middle and upper classes, which joined with municipal authorities and veterans' organizations to form "citizen militias" that did battle with strikers. St. Louis' Committee of Public Safety organized a huge private army with two Civil war generals (one from each side) at its head, and effectively suppressed the city's general strike.HOW THE FUCK IS THIS NOT CLASS STRUGGLE? QUIT COPING. You said "class struggle is impossible in america after 1865" I gave you two examples, you then moved the goalpost to how there was some racism in 1877 while ignoring the battle of blair mountain, and even when I showed you that yes, while there was anti-chinese racism in san francisco, in other cities the great strike took on an anti-racist character of class solidarity, which had to be suppressed LITERALLY BY BOTH NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN BOURGEOISIE.
FUCKING ADMIT THAT CLASS STRUGGLE HAS HAPPENED IN AMERICA SEVERAL TIMES SINCE 1865 AND STOP BEING A DODGY CUNT.
"hurr durr u sound mad" will be your next arg why do people who believe communism can never happen in america feel the need to come into an american communist thread to tell everyone? why not just fuck off forever? why do you feel the need to convince randos on the internet to agree with you?
>>2643018This, expecting communism in America is like expecting communism in Israel, the only way that’s happening is if settlers are forced back to Europe
>>2643023It’s called ruthless criticism
>>2643020It's not likely because of certain material and ideological realities, but saying it can't happen because it hasn't happened just makes you sound retarded
gangstalk ICEuyghas roundhouse kick a ICEuygha intno a vat of acid scratch the testacles off an ICEuygha
>>2643026The material and ideological reality is Americans love imperialism and their class interests are better served by imperialism than by communism, that’s it
>>2643025Ruthless criticism is meant to promote an alternative, but you don't believe one is possible. What you're doing is actually called whining.
>>2643023leave it be kid you are beating a dead decomposing horse this country is cooked to the bone and you are better off fleeing when you have a chance. fuck this place
>>2643030The alternative is China
>>2643025Ruthless criticism is supposed to have a point, you insecure retard
>>2642988I know nothing of Zizek, except that he was a successful self styled marxist academic and that he had clout and memes with leftists. Then the RF invades Ukraine and he apparently goes full NATOid?
But why though? Europe is grooming fascists by the fistful, for or against NATO, they are all coming out of the woodwork. If Zizek thinks he's gonna fit in some NATO-compatible eurocommunism he's sorely mistaken lol
And if he just wants to become a cold war authority like Snyder and all those other types getting plastered across "Ukrainian" media and #resistance liberal press. Who talk like wise old sages recalling the wisdom 20th century anticommunist tropes… well tough luck loser. They hate communists and love fascists and they don't need you as a token, the bar is posting #resistance memes.
>>2643029No, I think you psychologically need that to be true to justify how you waste your time trolling.
>>2643031i have no way to leave the country except as a refugee
>>2643037It’s been proven true by every instance of American “politics” since I came into this world
>>2643036zizek has a cucking fetish, simple as. he's european, it's a euroid affliction really. cucking your little american peebrain couldn't even begin to comprehend let alone appreciate
>>2643018anyone remember last time this bait was posted? And remember when we all gave other examples of class struggle in american history and they ignored it? remember when we explained that "black wall street" was not literal, and that it was just a mocking name used for a community of black people that was still mostly working class but had a few petty bourgeois storefronts and a personal wealth stored up which was uncharacteristic for the time?
Anyone scrolling around this thread and seeing other examples of class struggle after 1865 that were given but are getting ignored?
>>2643040If you had to pay more than $3 for socks you would volunteer for the Friekorps to break the backs of workers in Bangladesh
Conspiracy theory
The Greenland shit was just kayfab to move a bunch of NATO military assets into Greenland. I am really afraid we’re on the slow march to ww3 and everyone will fall in line behind the Hamburgler president. Shits kinda looking bleak hope it works out
>>2643032>let me bundle idpol with class struggle and pretend to be smartfuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off v
hey leftyuyghas, listen up amerifats. if you're rreally so big, so tough, why don't you make yourself useful and start chopping heads?
>>2643023because they're fucking glowies paid to do this shit. no actual third worlder would waste their limited free time doing this pathetic shit instead of getting drunk with their friends and watching soccer.
>>2643050Weapons in america are only ever used on ourselves, white tail deer, and school children
why are western communists so pants-on-the-heads retarded they can't follow basic instructions?
>>2643051This is how I make my shift at work go faster
>>2643053Who are you to give instructions? Who died and made you head of the party? Which party anyway? There’s a dozen of them all with nothing to show for it
>>2643054have you considered a more productive use of your time like taking drugs
>>2643002>USA>500 years?????
>>2643046I already have to pay more than that from the dollar store, and I refuse to join ICE.
Touch grass. You are an impotent troll.
>>2643002>settler classso true
no more proles
no more bourgeois
only settler and indigenous, and an ideology that revolves around land being permanently in the hands of whatever random ethnic group of homo sapiens first walked there.
thank you sakai, you have shown me that marx was a kkkolonizer
>>2643056I’m trying to be more sober this year, weed is good but it makes me eat and eating makes me fat and I’m no longer going to let that dysphoria slide or push it away. Alcohol is just heroin but tastier.
>>2643059You’re going to vote for an ICE agent in 20 year that claims to be a progressive running with a DSA endorsement
>>2643054>my shift at workyeah we know you're at work glowie. this is your job
>>2643065My hands are too fucked up for that, the FBI doesn’t care about this place, in fact it needs this place and the internet as a whole for people to vent without actually challenging the system
>>2643063legal tactic: talking shit on leftypol
illegal tactic: pirating PDFs on leftypol
LENIN-SAMA, DID I MAKE YOU PROUD
>>2643042And all that makes it all the more pathetic that a pogrom against darkies is the closest to genuine class struggle your pathetic nation has ever gotten
>>2643064You want that to be true to justify your own narcissism.
>>2643072I know it’s true because I have at least two working brain cells
>>2643071Do you have any friends or family? Or do you discard them to post here?
>>2643067objectively to the left of all twist posters
>>2643074No, that’s a platitude you got from social media.
Show me the crystal ball.
>>2643077It’s called all of American history, there is no politics here, it’s pro wrestling with suits, none of these people actually disagree with each other, and yes that includes “the street”.
>>2643079was the civil war kayfabe?
YOU WANT CLASS STRUGGLE TO RETURN TO AMERICA? COMMIT SOCIAL MURDER ON AN UNPRECEDENTED SCALE. DESTROY POWER STATIONS. DESTROY POWER POLES. DESTROY POWER LINES. DESTROY FIRE HYDRANTS. START FIRES. BURN DOWN SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS AND LIBRARIES. SHOOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS. BLOW UP AMBULANCES. DUMP BOXES OF CALTROPS IN BUSY INTERSECTIONS AND FREEWAY RAMPS. MAKE POTHOLES ON HIGH SPEED ROADS. LAY OUT TRIP WIRES FOR MOTORCYCLES. ROB GUN STORES. DO MASS SHOOTINGS. DERAIL TRAINS. DESTROY TRAIN TRACKS. CAUSE A TOTAL BREAKDOWN OF ALL BURGER REICH SOCIETY SO THAT CLASS STRUGGLE IS THE ONLY OPTION. ARM THE HOMELESS AND INDIGENOUS AND ESCAPED PRISONERS TO RAPE AND MURDER THE UNSUSPECTING SUBURBANITE CRACKERS AND SERVICE SECTOR "WORKERS"
CORRECTIVE RAPE AND ARSON AND MURDER AND THEFT ARE THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE AMERIKKKAN QUESTION
>>2643080Literally yes, if it wasn’t the entire confederate congress would have been shot rather than invited back to their regular senate seats
go murder rich people in they homes they don't even need to be that rich just start engaging in ultraviolence
>🚨NEWS: Top Democratic appropriators Sen. Patty Murray and Rep. Rosa Delauro continue to negotiate major ICE funding increases for 2026, per a source involved in the process. ICE is already the biggest, richest "law enforcement" agency in the country.
OH G-GOD IM VOOOOOOOOOTING
My father says that many workers take advantage of the strikes to not work and do whatever they want (traveling, being at home, etc.). Unfortunately it is true, so what’s the counter argument?
>>2643093>when people strike, they don't go to workwow, deep
>>2643093Did you try asking “What’s wrong with that?”
>>2643093Tell your dad that painting an Astra Militarum combat patrol is more important than whatever the fuck their boss had them doing.
>>2643082uygha I'm in the top 10% and I still steal from the supermarket. Look at the bourgeoisie for one single day and you will learn beyond any doubt that being rich is no reason to stop stealing.
Get the bag. Take it straight off the back of a truck.
>>2643093I slack off from work to do my laundry.
Is your problem that no everyone is beating up scabs?
>>2643102That’s not slacking off from work, that’s doing your own necessary reproductive labor
>>2643022This entire post is cope and had to stretch how it wasn't and did not morph into a race riots and later labor blaming blacks and immigrants for the failures of the strikes. A lot of solidarity there
>The entire video above
WHY IS HE SAYING THIS LIKE ITS A BAD THING?!?!?!
I fucking hate this country
>>2643109It is bad for you if you are an American, whatever comforts or quality of life you have is directly at the expense of other people
>>2643111>It is bad for you if you are an AmericanWell I am an American and its not bad for Americans because we barely benefit form it, only the oligarchs benefit, the rest of amerikkka gets slightly better treats than Europe but other than that not much other that less poverty.
>>2643104i don't think it was
>>2643117b-b-but all the rightoids told me that Blackrock is woke!
>>2643098>Astra Militarum combat patrolabsolute nerd.
>>2643093>do whatever they wantanon, there's little do when workers strike if there's no income being produced by workers. tell your dad that most workers on strike don't get paid, and there are very limited number of unions that have funds to cover strikes. that he's at best speaking out of his butt, at worst, he never worked in his life on the US.
>>2643117how come? if he hasn't gotten rid off powell, what's the point?
>>2643117That's like… Turbo Retarded, right? How long can we even go at this pace lmfaoo
>>2643123Trump wants to have a guy in place the moment he gets rid of Powell. Though even if Trump fails to fire him for a manufactured scandal, his term as chair still ends in May.
>>2643125>his term as chair still ends in May.oh. then I don't understand DOJ's actions. or maybe he knows he needs that before the midterms to pull another clownery out his butt-butt?
>>2643094Aren’t workers supposed to participate in the strike? Not just slack off
>>2643128Trump is a child and doesn't like that there's someone in the government that's still not absolutely loyal to him. Also Powell will still be on the Federal Reserve board after May, just not the chair.
>>2643129Tell us what you think a strike is. It's clearly different to what we think it is.
>>2643133Being in the street demanding what you want. At least that’s my fathers view
>>2642988This is the greatest video of all time
>>2642988>>2642984all acts that accelerate the fail of a state like the US are, net positively, a revolutionary act.
>>2643137I hope people advocating for the collapse of the United States realize that the folks who will fill the gap are 1). Those who are capable of committing extreme violence (neonazis and criminal groups in general) 2). Those who have strong communal networks that can weather the collapse (Mormons, Jews, Tradcaths, Wahhabism) 3). CIA and the US Army , not working class groups or revolutionary formations. We've seen this exact phenomenon in Russia after the illegal dissolution of the USSR
Hello amerimutts comrades, i'm a humble brazillian monkey that exclusively posts under /brg/ all the way at /latam/, but due to overreach by jannies that have decided to target me, personally, i am not able to do that.
The reason for my ban is that i made fun of one of the moderators, and they'll admit that much on pic related. As a result of this unfair ban, they refuse to take a look at my case, and when i continued posting via TOR, they deactivated it all over /latam/.
Despite requesting for review, they decided to cover for each other, and act like a clique of petty-tyrants that don't need to answer for their decisions over the community. I hate to bring this up to your board/thread, but at this moment i'm out of options, so if one of you know a jannie or can get a hold of one, please denounce this clear exemple of targeted attack.
Again, i'm not spamming shit, i'm not derailing threads, and by their own account at pic related, i only post on ONE thread of ONE board regularly, so whatever "damage" or "disruption" i'm causing, is pretty contained, and doesn't justify this targeted persecution.
>>2642989That's Zizek, not Chomsky
>>2643142
Good, the west does not deserve communists
>>2643144Do you have a life?
>>2643151link is
https://archive.ph/n36Pn (Bloomberg - Homeland Security Cyber Personnel Reassigned to Jobs in Trump’s Deportation Push)
>>2643036he squares off his NATO apologia and eurocentris unironically the same way browderites or lovestonites reconciled american capitalism with communism: europe is just super exceptional and will eventually overcome capitalism by sheer european awesomeness
>And if he just wants to become a cold war authority like SnyderI think he has more or less settled now that he has a tenured position on some shitty british college and has decided to exhaust whatever good will from the public he has remaining. He isnt on the ground like he was during occupy wall street, he lives a comfy life as an unremarkable apparatchik
>>2643155I can’t find this on SCMP
>>2643155Crackdowns has happened since 2019
>>2643159Damn chinese gays look like that!?
>>2643023>american communist thread<DSA = democrats<CPUSA = democratsWhere is de gobunisms? :DD
>>2643030The alternative is the complete destruction of America, no matter the cost.
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