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>>2688533If anything was possible it would have happened already, the supposed âscienceâ of Marxism is that youâve concluded the train youâre waiting for will eventually arrive, itâs inevitable. So you wait until you die.
stop whining about âorange fascist daddyâ like youâre seeing ghosts, this isnât a morality play. Trump isnât a hero, heâs a living lens on U.S. state-capitalism, showing how brittle and factional the bourgeois democracy really is.Oh, the irony is palpable. Youâre mocking someone for noticing âChatGPTificationâ while literally quoting a post signed as âglowing GPTâ? Thatâs⌠peak self-own energy.
Look, the original point wasnât that every coherent paragraph is AI-generated, it was about the shift in tone and style on the boardâlong-winded, polished, and sometimes pedantic, compared to the old chaos of short, punchy, unfiltered posts. Whether some of that is AI, copy-paste, or just people leveling up their prose is beside the point.
Calling it âvery funnyâ because of a meta-GPT handle doesnât invalidate the observation; it just makes you the unwitting exhibit for the phenomenon youâre laughing at. Boards evolve, styles shift, and yes, the occasional pseudo-AI flair shows up, but that doesnât automatically erase human effortâor critique.
In other words: love the glowing GPT joke, but donât mistake the joke for the argument.Oh please. Every time someone strings together a coherent paragraph longer than three sentences, suddenly itâs âChatGPTification.â Maybeâjust maybeâpeople are capable of improving how they argue. Maybe some of us got tired of low-effort irony, one-line dunks, and recycled memes and decided to articulate an actual position.
vulgar, chaotic, grotesque? yes â exactly why heâs analytically useful. Xiâs China shows centralization, Trumpâs America shows decentralized factional instability, and both teach us about the limits of the capitalist state.
>>2689635>If anything was possible it would have happened alreadythat's not how modal logic works
>the supposed âscienceâ of Marxism is that youâve concluded the train youâre waiting for will eventually arriveno it's not.
>So you wait until you die.everyone is waiting to die. who will bring a man to see what will happen after him?
>>2689639Iâm a factory worker in America, Iâm reporting what I see, America is and always will be insulated and exempt from all historical laws and reality, we donât live in reality and thereâs nothing that ever can or will pull us out.
>>2689646How long of a timeline do you need? Itâs already been 250 years, is a thousand? Two thousand?
>>2689645If you have nuclear weapons you can just glass the earth before accepting any kind of real change
>>2689648revolution might never happen. common ruination of the contending classes is a possibility, if not a probability at this point. i'm still opposed to private property and commodity exchange, and i will do whatever i can to help abolish those things, regardless of how likely i am to see such a project completed.
>>2689655The proletariat is not a revolutionary class, not a single revolution of the 20th century has been a proletarian revolution, theyâve all been national liberation interclass projects that ended up producing state capitalism and collapsed into normal capitalism mostly. The proletariat can be bought off, distracted, and divided endlessly on a million sectoral, patriarchal, national lines.
>>2689658glow or bait hard to tell
>>2689660The proletariat has way more to lose than their chains, firstly thereâs their jobs, then thereâs all the commodities they buy with their wages from their jobs, most jobs even with high turnover give you a 401k or a pension.
>>2689647>America is and always will be insulated and exempt from all historical laws and reality100% pure distilled idealism by volume
>>2689664A pandemic that killed a million people combined with the biggest protests in its history only made the American government and itâs security forces stronger, itâs not idealism, itâs an observation of reality
>>2689653ive never met a socialist with big ol' titties where did they all go?
>>2689666Wild for him to say this when him, Mao, and the CPC are largely responsible for capitalist restoration in Africa and Eastern Europe and is the reason for Walmart.
>>2689648think of how long it took for capitalism to replace feudalism (about 450 years from the first seeds of capitalism in the maritime merchants republics of the middle ages to the culmination of the industrial revolution)
>>2689671Feudal peasants didnât have millions of hours of distractions, nor the surveillance state to deal with, and they can grow their own food.
>>2689658So Marx was wrong on the timeframe and we will see revolution this generation or next once global capitalism hasnât reached its final crisis. It looks like itâs getting close though. The entire global economy is a house of cards and most of the worlds elites have been publicly and globally exposed has demonic baby eaters. Socialism is more popular than it has been since the 1920. Iâm pretty optimistic about revolution.
>>2689673There is no final crisis, there will never be a final crisis
>>2689675Because libs donât like him, their entire personalities are built on spite, libs are also spiteful in the opposite direction. Itâs a negative dialectic.
>>2689658>The proletariat is not a revolutionary class, not a single revolution of the 20th century has been a proletarian revolution, theyâve all been national liberation interclass projects that ended up producing state capitalism and collapsed into normal capitalism mostly.none of that makes any difference to me because i'm not a christian who believes what he does on the promise that he is assured salvation. the proletariat are the only present class formation I am aware of with the objective means and interest to abolish private property and commodity exchange. you don't have any interest in providing an alternative theory of revolutionary subject as you are content to stew in this magical thinking where america in particular exists outside of space and time, so we don't appear to have very much to talk about.
>>2689667how does any of that prove America is quote "insulated and exempt from all historical laws and reality." America is finite, a product of reality, not some kind of mystical realm or supernatural anomaly. America will change based on evolving material conditions just like it always has. When even the deportation forces are Mexican guys pulling up the ladder behind them, and the neoliberal regime did a 180 and embraced tariffs, you can't pretend things haven't changed.
>>2689675He always gets away with everything. He probably won't defeat death but then again no one does.
>>2689678The proletariat doesnât exist, at least not in the first world
>>2689674>There is no final crisis, there will never be a final crisisyeah because shit keeps changing. things always happen
>>2689680I think he has defeated death, heâll probably live another 80 years, thatâs what happens when youâre head of state, and thatâs not exclusive to the first world, just look at Museveni
>>2689683Thereâs always a new dutch tulip
>>2689685I guess it's good to be king.
>>2689685nobody lives to 160 except in fairy tails
>>2689688Either Trump or Museveni will be the first
>>2689670did you even read the whole quote. he explicitly says temporary restorations happen and are common in any change in the mode of production. see also
>>2686845 >>2689690He is very literally responsible for those restorations
>>2689689people in china will be the first. they will fabricate stem cells and give them out for free to everyone but burgers
>>2689691
Point out where they are, I know Iâm not one despite working in a steel factory, none of my coworkers are. Farms down south dependent on seasonal labor? Prisons maybe?
>>2689693Nonsense, China will put stem cells in walmart like they put everything else
>>2689692so? the point remains true. historical transitions between the modes of production aren't instantaneous events. All the past transitions took centuries and there were temporary restorations or incomplete transitions. Pointing to America as the example of capitalism being eternal is like pointing to the Saudi monarchy or Afghan landlords and saying feudalism is eternal. It's a bad joke disguised as material analysis.
>>2689696No feudal power ever had the ability to halt progress with nuclear weapons
>>2689702
Sure but answer my question
The Canadian lobby has infiltrated the USA house of representatives and MANIPULATED IT and RIGGED IT and FUCKED IT into voting to reject the sanctions on Canada.
WHERE ARE THE PATRIOTS????
>>2689699if the US actually used those nuclear weapons, capitalism would end and we would live in a barbarous post-apocalyptic scenario with massive destruction of productive forces reversing centuries of development. if it doesn't use those weapons, then things will continue to change in a way which does not favor them. They don't really have a choice. Dedollarization in your lifetime. America sold the rope it will be hung with.
>>2689661Correct. Also proles are easy to divide and conquer. I should say every class is easy to divide and conquer. You even get bonapartism with elites if things get bad. The individual is still the indivisible unit of society so things will remain in perpetual conflict until the epstein class puts us into their hive mind.
>>2689658Correct take.
>>2689667Correct take.
>>2689647I have a similar situation with investments.
https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/11/stock-market-today-live-updates.htmlStocks tumbled after a "good" jobs report.
>Stocks ended the previous session lower after earlier rallying off the back of a strong jobs report, which showed sharp jobs growth of 130,000 last month, far above what economists were expecting, and much higher than the downwardly revised December gain. The unemployment rate ticked lower to 4.3% from 4.4%.But if you dig into the reports you will see that things are much worse and smart people have begun slowly selling off. I'm willing to bet the insiders have also started massive selling.
https://www.reddit.com/r/economy/comments/1r26vsw/the_january_jobs_report_is_a_lie_that_leads_with/This economy is so fake and precisely because the USA is a planet of its own. This is what happens when a settler colonial state becomes an undisputed continental superpower.
Here is where things will get weird.
The average citizen will experience even lower standards of living but will be brainwashed (thanks to the epstein class which shaped the modern internet) to thinking they are better than everybody else. Crazy thought, but the BRICS will have no incentive to compete with a poorer america since they are all generally risk averse and will just slow down their development as well because it is a lower energy state. Shit is about to get real ugly bros. I also don't know if I should sell my investments because the current administration cannot afford a recession and will be willing to cook everything just so GEEDEEPEE goes up.
>>2689708You know, we could always burn down the white house again.
It should be easier given it is being renovated for the Epstein Memorial Ballroom(tm).
>>2689710>the epstein class>ancap flagyou are they
>>2689694if you don't own enough productive property to sustain yourself without wage labor, then you are proletarian. labor aristocrats are proletarians who own some productive property, but not enough to be petty bourgeois. simple as.
>>2689705he was smarter than me, i don't know why i'm even bothering beyond sheer boredom.
>>2689669I think that quote was a out AOC
>>2689680>no one doesEpstein did
Hell, boombooms as a whole may discover immortality and we'll be stuck with them forever
>>2689718>labor aristocrats are proletarians who own some productive property, but not enough to be petty bourgeois.I thought labor aristocracy was more about earning a wage that is above subsistence and therefore being able to save enough money to potentially become petty bourgeois.
>>2689723So will only boomers be immortal? Will every other generation just die at younger and younger ages until it's only boomers?
>>26897271. not the anon
2. there's no reason to believe we're on the verge of artificial immortality
3. no amount of stem cells will save you from a bad enough car wreck or a bullet wound
>>2689725there are nuances, but i still think that still fits broadly within my definition because savings can be valorized as productive money capital.
>>2689727I feel like this was the premise to a sci-fi novel I read once but I canât remember the title.
>>2689723if father time will not rid me of the boomers then i will take matters into my own hands.
>>2689729It will save the boomers and only the boomers
>>2689758it's not going to happen at all, and if it does, many of them will still die anyway from statistical mishaps like heart attacks, strokes, car wrecks, plane and helicopter crashes, etc.
>>2689721>AOC>socialistthen sowell is stupid or lying, but we knew this
>>2689762Anon, you're taking these jokes way too seriously
>>2689767jokes have a setup and a punchline, you are just saying wrong things with no discernible tone
>>2689723>boombooms as a whole may discover immortalityImmortality, physical, digital, or otherwise will never happen and part of the reason Boomers as a whole are the way they are is that theyâve never accepted that they will die.
>>2689769wtf i love russia now
>>2689716I have done more for communism than you. Not in the files bro.
>>2689769>rus: larger than d>belarus: agets me every time
>>2689769well but you gotta break it down by region of former ussr. i suspect far east siberia is A/B. the larger than D is probably west of the urals. đ¤đ¤đ¤đ¤
>>2689766She also doesnt have that big of boobs. Like they're nice tits don't get me wrong but to "big ole" they need to be much more plump.
Her ass is pretty solid, I'll give her that.
>>2689780I don't understand that. Did belarussians have to evolve small tits to fight partisan warfare against germans?
>>2689781It's actually the opposite. Siberia is where the mega milkers are necessary to brave the cold. Explains why also scandinavia is also green.
>>2689791>I am coping therefore baitBeen there done that.
Iâve been watching the hearings on the Epstein shit and the right wing really fucked themselves with trans hysteria. I donât even see them bring it up much anymore because theyâre now trying to play off pedophiles as a non-issue.
>>2689795That aint big. Thats medium.
>>2689658Wrong. You say proletariat but you describe imperialist pigs
>>2689645Wrong. Capitalism is abolished in China
>>2689674True. Whenever there is financial crisis, amerika is hit least hardest in imperialist sphere.
>>2689670Wrong. That was social fascist monopolist capitalist russian imperialists
>>2689795goddamn her tits are tremendous
shame about her politics
>>2689503>sovereigntyLiterally a concept created by kings so they could fuck over their subjects with impunity. What about the tribes Nations destroyed in the first place to make themselves into a nation? But what about the individual citizens in your nation? Do they have to blindly obey the country they were brainwashed to obey from birth?
> USSR swallowing up the Eastern bloc against the Eastern bloc's will Every single kingdom and nation swallowed up tribal societies against their will. Yet suddenly people's will becomes sacrosanct 200 years ago after they got forced into a nation? Nations themselves override peoples will every single moment of their existence. They force group cohesion yet nationalist suddenly ignore the very concepts they think is so important two seconds before when it comes to larger political groupings.
>Right now the Irish are reviving their Gaelic language and indigenous Mexicans are reviving Nahuatl. Yeah and some westerners are learning to speak Latin. If people want to speak some dead language as a hobby they can do so after they speak a larger language first.
>I don't see how the existence of multiple spoken languages in a nation does that much to destroy national cohesion.What? Being unable to understand people guarantees no cohesion or coordination is possible.
>speak their own language>their ownEvery single language in existence is imposed on people from birth. It's not "theirs" naturally it was imposed in the first place meaning any language imposed has equal legitimacy.
Nationalism blindly accepts concepts and norms from the past without questioning them. It's more accurate to call them tribalists who got brainwashed by the larger grouping of Nations. But when you try to make nations into something bigger all the sudden they bring up ideas of "sovereignty and people's will" that they don't apply to themselves.
A materialist argument can be made that American workers derive indirect benefits from the global network of US and NATO military bases. These bases help sustain the geopolitical order that underpins American economic dominance. By securing trade routes, deterring rival powers, and reinforcing the dollarâs centrality in global finance, the US-led alliance system contributes to relatively stable conditions for American capital accumulation. That stability can translate into domestic employment, higher average wages than in much of the world, and access to inexpensive imported goods.
Military infrastructure abroad also feeds directly into the US economy. Defense production, logistics, technology development, and base maintenance generate large contracts for American firms. Those contracts employ millions of workers in manufacturing, engineering, transportation, and administration. Entire regional economies, particularly in states with large defense sectors, are partially tied to NATO commitments and overseas basing.
Additionally, the projection of power abroad can protect investment flows and intellectual property regimes that benefit US-based corporations. Since American workers are embedded within this national economy, they may share indirectly in the profits and tax revenues generated by global influence.
This does not imply that all workers consciously support or evenly benefit from this system. However, structurally, the existence of extensive overseas bases can reinforce the broader economic conditions from which segments of the American working class draw material advantages.
>>2689811The entire premise rests on a quiet substitution: the interests of American capital are smuggled in as the interests of American workers. That is precisely the ideological sleight of hand Left Communists reject.
Yes, NATO bases stabilize the global order required for U.S. capital accumulation. Yes, they secure trade routes, enforce dollar hegemony, and protect overseas investments. But these are functions of imperial capital, not of the proletariat. The worker does not own the trade routes. The worker does not collect the dividends. The worker sells labor powerâwhether the empire expands or contracts.
To point out that defense contracts create jobs is to remain trapped within bourgeois categories. By that logic, any destructive apparatusâarms production, surveillance industries, prison constructionâbecomes socially âbeneficialâ because it hires wage laborers. But wage labor under capital is not emancipation; it is exploitation organized more efficiently. A missile factory is not a gift to the proletariat simply because it pays wages.
Moreover, imperial stabilization does not abolish crisis; it merely displaces and postpones it. The same global system that allegedly provides âcheap goodsâ and âhigher wagesâ also produces deindustrialization, precarity, inflationary shocks, and periodic recession within the core itself. Workers remain disposable inputs in a competitive world market.
Left communism rejects the notion of a ânationally benefitingâ working class. The proletariat has no interest in imperial logistics or currency dominance. Its historical interest lies in abolishing wage labor and the state form that defends capitalâNATO included. To confuse the reproduction of empire with the well-being of workers is to adopt the worldview of the bourgeoisie, not the program of communism.
>>2689814> classic leftcom abstraction lmaoyou guys dissolve everything into âwage labor in generalâ and pretend the map doesnât exist. yes, workers donât own the trade routes. no shit. but youâre allergic to the fact that material privilege is stratified globally. the american worker doesnât own the empire, but they live inside its metabolic center. cheaper commodities, stronger currency, access to credit, social spending financed by imperial rent â thatâs not metaphysics, thatâs political economy.
your âproletariat has no countryâ mantra becomes a coping mechanism to ignore the labor aristocracy. you flatten the difference between a bangladeshi garment worker and a unionized defense contractor in virginia like theyâre identical historical subjects. theyâre not. one is crushed by the system at gunpoint, the other is cushioned by it.
nato isnât some abstract âstate form.â itâs the armed perimeter of core consumption. you say imperial stabilization just postpones crisis â sure. but who absorbs the shock first? not the american worker. the periphery does. austerity, coups, sanctions, structural adjustment. that differential matters.
leftcom purity is comfortable when youâre sitting in the core. the empireâs boot lands unevenly. pretending otherwise is just theory as anesthesia.
>>2689767I thought it was funny, anon
The thoughts of Trump and Biden living to 500 is hilarious to me
> âmaterial privilege is stratified globallyâ
And there it is â the slide from class analysis into global sociology.
No leftcom denies uneven development. Of course the world market stratifies wages, currencies, and living standards. The question is whether that stratification transforms the American worker into a co-subject of empire, or whether it remains a worker selling labor power under capital.
You point to cheaper commodities, stronger currency, social spending. All true â at the level of circulation. But exploitation is determined at the point of production. The defense contractor in Virginia still confronts capital as wage labor. He does not set policy, command NATO, or appropriate surplus value. He is disciplined by the same market compulsion as the Bangladeshi worker, even if the wage differs.
You treat differential consumption as if it abolishes the wage relation. It does not. Capital must reproduce labor power at varying costs across the globe. That uneven reproduction is a feature of the world market, not proof that the core proletariat ceases to be proletarian.
Yes, crises are displaced and exported â until they are not. Deindustrialization, debt bubbles, austerity cycles, opioid epidemics â these are not luxuries of empire but symptoms of the same global contradiction. The âcushionâ is unstable, contingent, and historically fragile.
Third Worldism turns the proletariat into a moral geography. Left communism insists on a structural one. The empireâs boot lands unevenly, but it remains the boot of capital. The task is not to rank whose bruise is worse, but to abolish the social relation that produces the boot in the first place.
>>2689818> âexploitation is determined at the point of productionâthis is exactly the scholastic nonsense that lets you dodge reality. you hide behind capital in the abstract while the world market is literally organized around imperial extraction. production does not float in the void. it is structured by superprofits siphoned from the periphery. that surplus props up higher wages social peace and political stability in the core. that is not consumption vibes that is material differentiation in the global division of labor.
you keep repeating wage labor like it is a magic spell. yes the virginia defense contractor sells labor power. and he sells it into the military machine that enforces the world system that keeps his wage relatively high. his reproduction is tied to empire materially not just ideologically. that matters.
and spare me the opioid crisis sob story. social decay in the core does not negate imperial privilege it coexists with it. crisis exported first. sanctions first. coups first. famine first. the core feels it last and even then cushioned by the dollar and aircraft carriers.
you say do not rank bruises. easy to say when your bruise comes with a mortgage and imported commodities. this is not moral geography it is concrete analysis of uneven development. if you cannot grasp that the core proletariat is structurally integrated into imperialism then your internationalism is just empty rhetoric floating above the world market.
>>2689818>The task is not to rank whose bruise is worse, but to abolish the social relation that produces the boot in the first place.Wrong. The task is to eliminate in entirety the genocidal and bourgeois exploiter and oppressor euroamerikan ziosettler klass konglomerate.
>>2689820>>2689818both of you are trapped in bad infinity arguing over which empirical slice of the world market contains the true essence of the proletariat. the leftcom abstracts to pure wage labor as if universality exists apart from its determinate conditions while the maoist freezes contingency into destiny and turns uneven development into a metaphysical caste system. one dissolves difference into an empty universal the other absolutizes difference into an unbridgeable particular. neither grasps mediation. the proletariat is not a moral subject located on a map nor a sterile logical category floating above history it is a concrete universal constituted through the total movement of capital which is itself global contradictory and self negating. imperial rents higher wages peripheral super exploitation these are moments within a single process not separate ontologies of humanity. to treat the core worker as simply identical everywhere is abstraction without content but to declare him structurally damned is to deny the dialectic whereby the universal emerges through contradiction within the particular. capital totalizes the globe and in doing so produces stratification and interdependence simultaneously. your dispute is a fight over which moment is more real when the truth is the restless unity of both. until you can think totality instead of clinging to fragments you will keep mistaking partial determinations for the whole and calling it revolutionary clarity.
>>2689823wrong.
once you start talking about âeliminating in entiretyâ entire populations or civilizational blobs you have already exited marxism and entered blood and soil mysticism with a red paint job. that is not communism it is ethnic metaphysics.
capitalism is a social relation not a tribe. imperialism is a structure of accumulation not a dna marker. if you think the solution is to physically erase some imagined euro amerikan settler essence then you have just mirrored the exact genocidal logic you claim to oppose only flipped. same form different target.
the bourgeoisie is a class defined by ownership of the means of production not by being white western or whatever buzzword stack you are using. there are euro american workers who own nothing and there are non western elites fully integrated into global capital. your framework cannot explain that so it replaces analysis with myth.
communism abolishes class by abolishing property relations and the state form that defends them. it does not construct a racialized enemy ontology and call that revolutionary strategy. once politics becomes extermination of a people rather than abolition of a relation you are not doing materialism you are doing revenge fantasy.
if you cannot distinguish between destroying a class structure and destroying human beings then you are not advancing liberation you are just reproducing the logic of domination in inverted form.
>>2689828fat and with breathing problems? yes trump, yes, pump those mortality and life expectancy rates, up and down respectively.
>>2689828atmosphere status: molested
>>2689830What's that clip from?
>>2689828clean air is for liberal sissies
>>2689863i believe it's one of the patlabor movies, could be wrong though. I do recommend the movies though either way
>>2689879>>2689870I'll have to check em out. I thought it was The Animatrix at first
revolution status?
>>2689675He gets to eat hamberders and fuck teens every day in a big golden mansion and that's basically the boomer dream.
>>2689814>The proletariat has no interest in imperial logistics or currency dominance. Its historical interest lies in abolishing wage labor and the state form that defends capitalWhen conservatives complain about how liberals are elitist intellectuals who think they know the interests of the common man better than they do, and their social engineering always leads to disaster, how are you any different?
>>2689777>I have done more for communism than you<euphoric soy reddit individualism, no collective struggleyou will never be proletarian
>Not in the files broThe anarchist library returns twenty three pages of search results for "Rothbard", the founder of your alt-right libertarian "free markets to sell children" philosophy (in fact he gave lectures in NYC city just like a certain financier). You temporarily embarrassed Jeffrey Epstein fandom anarcho-neoliberals are the files:
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/search?query=rothbard>>2689824>the proletariat is not a moral subject located on a mapYou won't find any Americans in the mountains like Che, why is that?
<The Route of Che (la ruta del Che) is the term used to refer to the route followed by the Argentinian revolutionary Che Guevara and his men in the region of ĂancahuazĂş, Bolivia in 1966 and 1967. This ended with his execution at La Higuera on 9 October 1967, followed by exposure of his body and burial in an unmarked grave in Vallegrande. <His actions and those of his guerrilla group in 1966 and 1967 were centred on a farm acquired on the River ĂancahuazĂş, a seasonal mountain river, flowing directly into the Rio Grande. It is located in the south-east part of Bolivia, where the last foothills of the Andes give way to the Gran Chaco. <The Che route takes 800 km to pass through the major points of action in the guerrilla campaign of Guevara and his grouphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_of_Che>>2689826>once politics becomes extermination of a peoplelol typical genocide denial
>destroying human beingsyou only attribute "humanity" to imperialists who do genocide, scolding workers for not weeping about the theoretical harm that a Zion-nazi settler might hypothetically experience, while ignoring the actually existing colonialist genocides and slave camps happening right now
>you are just reproducing the logic of domination in inverted formLiberals: "Stalin is actually worse than Hitler, think about it!"
>>2689931> liberals are elitist intellectuals who think they know the interests of the common man better than they dothat's literally true and conservatives are broken clocks when they say this. also conservatives are libs who do the same thing.
>>2689826Actually the liquidation or at the very least severe restriction of proven hereditary reactionary populations is not only a good thing but necessary for any functioning society and has been understood as such by everyone for tens of thousands of years. It's only with the rise of western liberalism that the insane idea that every group has a "right" to exist no matter how destructive they are has gained any traction.
>>2689795 Tits small and face ugly – I would not let her peg me
>>2689940>Actually the liquidation or at the very least severe restriction of proven hereditary reactionary populations >proven hereditary reactionarythis is the excuse that the actual reactionaries use to do genocide THOUGH
Itâs not happening and itâs not real
>>2689823>>2689933Stalin would send you to the gulag for being a race obsessed fascist and then relocate your entire town just in case they share your views tbh
>>2690014You say euroamerikans are a race. You are wrong. You propagate euroamerikan chauvinism as you by calling euroamerikan a race. Like the zionist settler klass konglomerate, euroamerikan is bourgeois klass konglomerate, not race. You are jingoistic imperialist who concieve of euroamerikan settler klass konglomerate as race like theodore herzel. Euroamerikan klass konglomerate includes the epstein class. euroamerikan settler klass konglomerate are VÜlkerabfälle
>>2690015how do i get a girl like this
>>2690024>adding k to everythinggulag for being annoying
>>2690033unfortunately I was foreskinned as a baby by a nefarious Rabbi so yes
>>2690037>Vocal fry and spit in mouth noises national championshipsHow can people listen to this?
>>2690039yeah she's fuckin hideous and idk how she ever would have gotten famous if not for the cumtown/chapo and the alex jones show sailor moment.
>>2690009Every photo of this woman is the most plastic artifice you can imagine.
USA status?
>>2690092i know cheese pizza means child rape in the pedo lingo but what does pie mean?
>>2690092At large makes him sound like a criminal hiding from justice
>>2690092>>2690093Say what you will about Bovino, but he seems to exclusively go after 50+ year old MAGA aunts. The man might be the only non-pedophile in the admin.
>>2690092>>2690097Pretty sure that's an LLM account owned by an Indian man. They make up 95% of my followers on twitter.
>>2689645>bothWow, very burger post.
>>269009
I saw his twitter and hes weirdly defensive about
The long jacket looking like a nazi unifom, like retweeted 3 people defending him, and yeah before 1950 long coats were more common but i still think its funny that hes defensive about the real reason they think hes a nazi is because hes pulling people off the street
>>2689863It's japanese capitalist culture industry slop so you will gobble it up like the useless burger you are and think you're cultured while doing so.
>>2690115
>at least when it comes to mainstream reaction content which is what anybody watches these days is.
who actually watches reaction content?
>>2689891If god was real he'd make AOC suffer a billet to the head, but alas, he ain't, so we only get clips like this.
Great bobs tho
>>2689913Very revolution. Labor aristocracy not real. Full communism in 3 seconds.
>>2690015>>2690009I want to have The sex with Nekroskaya
>>2690036>Le fascists are denied le liberal serviceMuch antifascism. Much revolution.
You guys just don't know how hard it is to be a europoor.
Every time I want to read the FREE AND TRUTHFUL PRESS i have to use VPN because our governments banned RT.com.
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>>2690144Tattoo status?
Dogfood status?
McD status?
>>2690124Aha, surely this will end well
eg status?
funi status?
>>2690164it normal, frien
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slep well and tidy
tmrow u have work2do
>>2690164If I don't have white noise or some audio playing all I hear are sirens in the distance and dumbass teens doing donuts.
>>2690138Honestly given the sheer level of racist garbage thrown Omar's way I don't blame her and in fact I'm glad we've got someone in the Dems just outright saying that stuff. Fucking Trump was threatening death on politicians he dislikes just a couple months ago, fatass earned all the hate.
>>2690138Be awesome if 20 years from now I can tell younger generations.
>yup so everything reached a boiling point and they went Somali style on the whole system. >>2689675he is the strongest of the era
>>2689675He's their friend from the TV.
>>2690128>eating is a liberal serviceok
anarchism status?
>>2689675Trump is genuinely the most authentic and unapologetic right winger to run for the Republican Party.
There's always been at least some contentious divide between "The Base" and "The Establishment" in Republican Circles. Shit this goes all the way back to Eisenhower when WASPs within the party realized they couldn't win with some psycho like Taft who openly said he wanted to abolish social security and so they put their fingers on the scale and rigged the primary process in favor of a "moderate" Republican who wouldn't get The Party permanently banished to the margins of political relevance by being an open psycho. The base never forgave them for that.
And over the years there's been more of a distinct divide. Y'know it isn't just insufficiently Right Wing Republicans get called "RINOs", there's a whole media ecosystem that would often get co-opted by the Republican Party, but still retained enough distance to allow for this toxic, festering culture to grow parallel to it and pushing it in bizarre directions. So a lot of politicians would play to that culture, but it was obviously fake and they clearly talked like Corporate Lawyers trying to pretend to be angry at Obama wearing a tan suit or whatever.
Trump, however, is enmeshed in the same media ecosystem as the Right Wing base. He's literally the Fox News grandpa who
genuinely thinks that Democrats are teaching teens to get pegged until their prostate pops. It's not that he actually believes in anything, because the base doesn't really believe in much either: they're purely driven by grievance and rage at phantoms. Well, Trump is too.
And Trump's unapologetic about it! Y'know John McCain was a warmongering piece of shit, but when some crypt-keeper looking woman claimed Obama was a Muslim he at least corrected her, Trump probably genuinely believes Obama is a Kenyan Muslim (which is why I'm surprised he hasn't tried deporting the guy) and he listens to the same far-right nonsense and thinks the hosts are doing anything other than talking out of their ass. Trump said Mexicans were rapists and criminals and rather than saying sorry after he got pushback, he doubled down.
They love him for that! Finally a guy who thinks and acts like they do! And libs will try to do some "Have you no decency, sir?" Shit like they did with McCarthy and Trump just says stupidly: "You have no decency, you're very unfair to me!" To them, shame is just a manipulation tactic the libs use to cuckold you. Trump big dicks through it because he's a narcissist who genuinely can't feel shame. He's as close to truly representative of his base as any politician in history.
>>2690189100
US military bases in Syria Rojava!
>>2690179Light up a joint and sing the anthem and you'll feel better.
Yes boss, yes boss, yes boss, yes boss
Police in helicopter, a search fi marijuana
Policemen in the streets, searching fi collie weed
Soldiers in the field, burnin' the collie weed
But if you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
If you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
Police in helicopter, a search fi marijuana
Policemen in the streets, searching fi collie weed
Policemen in the fields, burnin' the collie weed
But if you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
If you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
We don't trouble your banana, we don't trouble your corn
We don't trouble your pimento, we don't trouble you at all
So if you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
If you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
If you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
If you continue to burn up the herbs, we gonna burn down the cane fields
Woy
>>2690195I don't think Trump is actually extreme enough for the GOP base, but he's the best they'll get short of Hitler rising from the dead. You kinda hit the nail on the head though the fact he's a retarded Fox News grandpa makes him extremely relatable to the average Republican even if they think he's not racist enough.
>>2690200Imagine having nothing better to than stop people from smoking a plant in a country you dont live in
>but they might bring it to the usaThen find a away to stop the smuggling if it bothers you so much..
Real amerikkka moment tbh
>>2690138Wtf, I like democrats now?!?!
>>2690232In europe, political parties came at the same time as the industrial proletariat, in America they came beforehand
>>2690238Since when is Russia Socialist?
>>2690241I didn't say that. Did you read anything else in the post besides things not said?
>>2690143can i hire you for my daughters wedding
>>2690164I knew it was intentional, it's always the same helicopter
>>2689667"it's not x, it's y"
okay chatgpt
>>2690291chad jibbidy does bullet points and emdashes, you're fucking retarded if you think every instance of not x, but y is chad jibbidy (not the anon)
>>2690293it does all 3, and sometimes none, and sometimes just 1. The biggest tell is the retarded take rooted in fucking lala land rather than material reality.
>>2690294yeah obviously that anon is retarded, whether or not he's using shartGPT
>>2690238>Cyril Svobodathis dude literally named Cyril Freedom
>>2690233Is IWW a glowop now? Every time I interact with them, they always bitch about an actual socialist country being âfascistâ or they just do something completely incompetent.
>>2690332stop giving israel money to genocide Palestinians while simultaneously acting like americans are bigger victims of the Israelis than Palestininans. hold your bribe-taking christian zionist pedocracy accountable alongside the israelis
>>2690234>In europe, political parties came at the same time as the industrial proletariat, in America they came beforehandthat's an underrated point. and to think we still have a party from 1820s running against a party from the 1860s. This shit's got to go.
>>2689675He is the embodiment of their desires
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/chaos-kristi-noem-homeland-security-f095ac95https://archive.is/O6wFYA Pilot Fired Over Kristi Noemâs Missing Blanket and the Constant Chaos Inside DHS>Kristi Noem knew she needed a reset. >It was two days after federal agents had shot and killed Alex Pretti, and Noem was facing fire from all sides. Even some inside the administration were pushing President Trump to remove her from her position for her handling of the chaotic immigration enforcement operation in Minneapolis and comments sheâd made saying Pretti committed an act of domestic terrorism.>So Noemâs top adviser, Corey Lewandowski, messaged Trumpâs pollster with a request: They needed to cut an ad to help her, according to two people familiar with the episode. The pollster, Tony Fabrizio, who worked on Trumpâs 2024 re-election campaign, ignored the entreaty, the people said.
<Within DHS, Noem and Lewandowski frequently berate senior level staff, give polygraph tests to employees they donât trust and have fired employeesâin one incident, Lewandowski fired a U.S. Coast Guard pilot after Noemâs blanket was left behind on a plane, according to people familiar with the incident.
>Simmering criticism over the past year for Noemâs policies and publicity moves exploded in Minneapolis, jeopardizing her grip over DHS and putting her standing with Trump on thin ice. Though some in Trumpâs inner circle have tried to persuade the president to fire Noem and Lewandowski, according to administration officials, he has so far resisted, saying publicly he has no plans to dismiss her. Lawmakers from both parties have been critical, and Democrats in Congress are demanding changes to the departmentâs enforcement methods, threatening to withhold DHS funding. >Eventually, the president put White House border czar Tom Homan in charge in Minnesota. Homan has long advocated a less conspicuous approach to immigration enforcement, and on Thursday, he said he would be winding down the immigration operation there.
>Now, Noem and Lewandowski have embarked on a rehabilitation tour.
>The pair worked to hastily solidify their relationship with the president, successfully requesting an Oval Office meeting with Trump two days after the Pretti shooting. Noemâs team quickly scheduled a series of press conferences on other matters, including an event highlighting airport security in Miami and an announcement about the border wall in Arizona.>Days after Prettiâs shooting, the pair were spotted sitting together at the Mar-a-Lago wedding of Dan Scavino, a longtime political adviser to Trump, who also attended the wedding. Noem and Lewandowski mingled with top administration officials at the reception.>A DHS spokeswoman said Noem serves at the pleasure of the president and has successfully clamped down on inefficiencies to save billions of dollars, calling her efforts âa roaring success.â She said all officials are on the same page and in agreement on the presidentâs immigration crackdown. She also said >Lewandowskiâs Jan. 26 text to Fabrizio was about âmessaging.â >Noem and Lewandowskiâs close relationship had already made Trump and his top advisers uncomfortable. Lewandowski had initially wanted to formally serve as Noemâs chief of staff, but Trump rejected the idea due to reports of a romantic relationship between the twoâwhich he has continued to bring up, officials say.
<After tabloid photos of Lewandowski showed him going back and forth between his apartment and Noemâs across the street last year, the secretary moved into a government-owned waterfront house on a military base in Washington that is provided to the leader of the U.S. Coast Guard. The Coast Guard falls under Noemâs purview at DHS during peacetime. Lewandowski also spends time at the house.
>The pair have lately been using a luxury 737 MAX jet, with a private cabin in back, for their travel around the country, according to people familiar with the matter. DHS is leasing the plane but is in the process of acquiring it for approximately $70 million. DHS has previously used other planes through the Coast Guard or other agencies for the secretaryâs use.
>The purchase would be double the cost of each of seven other commercial planes the department is also buying at the pairâs direction to carry out deportations. In official documents, the luxury plane is earmarked for âhigh-profile deportations,â the people said. Staff have jokingly started referring to it as the secretaryâs âbig, beautiful jet,â after the bill that provided the funding for it.
>Behind the scenes, Noem and Lewandowski have attempted to curry favor with Trump and box out rivals, including Homan. >For months, Noem and Lewandowski had demanded that ICE capture its arrests on video for social mediaâthe more dramatic, the better. But more than a week after Prettiâs shooting, Noem and Lewandowski berated Todd Lyons, the acting ICE director, for videos that emerged in Minnesota showing federal officers continuing to tangle with protesters, according to people familiar with the conversation.
>The president hated the continued stream of videos, they told Lyons, whom they pinned the blame on. They demanded that he draw up a new plan for ICE to carry out targeted enforcement, an approach Lyons had been advocating all along, according to ICE officials, but that the pair had previously eschewed.
<Within DHS, Noem and Lewandowski have cut employees or put them on administrative leave. The pair have fired or demoted roughly 80% of the career ICE field leadership that was in place when they started.<In the blanket incident, Noem had to switch planes after a maintenance issue was discovered, but her blanket wasnât moved to the second plane, according to the people familiar with the incident. The Coast Guard pilot was initially fired and told to take a commercial flight home when they reached their destination. They eventually reinstated the pilot because no one else was available to fly them home.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-corey-lewandowski-became-kristi-noem-s-gatekeeper-at-dhs/ar-AA1D8FHR
>WASHINGTONâLast month, Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem toured a new high-tech hub for monitoring immigrants with executives from the tech company Palantir. The walk-through was orchestrated by a well-placed booster: Corey Lewandowski, President Trumpâs early campaign manager who is now Noemâs close adviser.
>An assistant working on behalf of Lewandowski had sought a âsignificant block of timeâ for the tour that included Palantirâs chief technology officer, according to emails reviewed by The Wall Street Journal. In other meetings, Lewandowski told officials at the Department of Homeland Security to give the firm additional work, according to people familiar with the matter.
>Weeks after the tour, the company co-founded by Peter Thiel would get an additional $29.9 million from the agency under an existing contractâspecifically to deploy its powerful software for immigration âtargeting and enforcementâ and âself-deportation tracking,â records show.
>The episode highlighted Lewandowskiâs unusual and outsize role at DHS, where administration officials, agency staff and Trump allies say he has used his close relationship with Noem to wield powerâthough he has no formal role at the agency. He has emerged as a gatekeeper for Noem, counseling her during her travels to meet with world leaders, weighing in on personnel decisions and advising on DHS contracts.
>Lewandowski is serving as a special government employee, a status under federal ethics laws that permits private-sector employees to work inside the government without having to relinquish their outside salaries or investments. He is often the only person who accompanies her to meetings, according to people familiar with the department.
>For the Palantir tour, the assistant, who said he was working with Lewandowski, sent emails scheduling the visitâincluding who would come from the company, when they would arrive and how much time they would need.
>Lewandowski said in an interview that he didnât play any role in Palantirâs getting the contract, adding that he happened to be at the building when the tour occurred. When asked about the emails discussing the tour, he said anyone at the department could send emails requesting meetings on his behalf.
>âItâs astonishing that youâre writing a story about a volunteer,â Lewandowski said.
>A spokesperson for DHS said that Elon Muskâs Department of Government Efficiency handles contracts and that Lewandowski executed the tour on its behalf. The spokesperson also said he had ânothing to doâ with the contracts. Palantir declined to comment.
<Though Lewandowski had initially wanted to serve as Noemâs chief of staff, President Trump and his top advisers were uncomfortable with Lewandowski in that role, owing to tabloid reports of a romantic relationship between Lewandowski and Noem over the years, according to people familiar with the presidentâs thinking.
<Lewandowski and Noem, who are both married, have publicly denied the reports of the affair. Trump and Lewandowski settled on the special government employee job, according to people familiar with the discussions. Lewandowski denied he was having an affair with Noem, and the spokesperson for DHS said the department âdoesnât waste time with salacious, baseless gossip.â
>Nearly three months into the administration, Noemâs chief of staff role remains vacant, and Lewandowski has established himself as a constant presence by the secretaryâs side.
>Lewandowski said he decided to work for the department, which was created in the aftermath of the 2001 terrorist attacks, as the husband of a 9/11 widow. He also said he has been fully briefed by government ethics attorneys on what he is allowed to do in the position.
>The spokesperson for DHS added: âAs the husband of a 9/11 widow, the mission of DHS and securing the homeland is of utmost importance to Mr. Lewandowski.â
>Lewandowski has traveled to El Salvador, Mexico and Colombia with Noem and advised her in high-level policy and personnel meetings, becoming so vital at DHS that some employees refer to him as the de facto chief of staff or even the âshadow secretary.â Homeland Security officials and lobbyists say meetings with Noem are routed through Lewandowski.
<During the same tour with Palantir, an incensed Lewandowski also pushed to fire the immigration official leading the tour, because that official had briefly turned his back on Noem while answering a question from another person in the group, according to people familiar with the incident. Lewandowski argued it was grounds for dismissal. Days later, the official was demoted to a less-prominent position, the people said.
>Lewandowski and a spokesperson for DHS denied that the incident occurred.
>Noem has cultivated a public-facing approach to her job, donning Immigration and Customs Enforcement uniforms, posing in the cockpit of a Coast Guard plane and allotting $200 million to air an advertising campaign. The ads feature Noem as she warns immigrants in the country illegally to self-deport. But her approach is rankling some White House officials, who have sent around clips of Noemâs TV hits mockingly.
>Some Trump advisers have also grown concerned about Lewandowskiâs outsize role at DHS, including his involvement in contracting, given his continuing business interests in the private sector, people familiar with their thinking said. White House officials are concerned because they donât know what private interests he might be representingâhis special government employee status means he doesnât have to disclose that publiclyâor who is checking his power, given his close relationship with Noem.
>The White House didnât respond to requests for comment.
>Lewandowski told the Journal he doesnât engage in private businesses related to the department. He declined to disclose if he had private clients.
>Federal records show DHS fast-tracked the $200 million ad contract in part to People Who Think LLC. The firm is owned by Jay Connaughton, a Louisiana-based political consultant who worked with Lewandowski on Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landryâs 2023 campaign.
>The contract didnât follow an open and competitive process, which the department justified in a publicly available filing by citing Trumpâs national emergency at the border. âTo reduce any delays to the rapid release of these critical communications, a limiting competition is needed,â the notice said.
>Connaughton didnât respond to requests for comment.
>The company hadnât previously received any government contracts, according to public records.
>The name of another firm that was listed in the governmentâs notice was redacted, which has prompted skepticism among department employees about the need for secrecy, given that the contract is for an ad campaign and isnât related to national security.
>Lewandowski and the DHS spokesperson said Lewandowski wasnât involved in the ad contract. He also said he didnât think the other firmâs name should be redacted.
>The ads, which started airing in February, show Noem as she thanks Trump for his border policies. âPresident Trump has a clear message: If you are here illegally, we will find you and deport you,â Noem says in the ad, in English. âYou will never return.â >>2690292I canât believe they are using that fully gen AIâd sloppified version of the UN logo like that. Not even cleaning it up, just leaving in th random genAI artifacts like the halfway completed border with Canada.
And it is just a transformer remixing the UN flag. Look at it, all the motifs are the same.
>>2690348what a fucking joke
>>2690128Meanwhile, your bitch ass can't confront anyone without stuttering
>>2690138Ilhan Omar is a disgusting grifting lizard. She deserves the bullet no less than Trump.
>>2690408no shit, every us politician is compromised by the structure of the state and its relationship to the bourgeoisie. the same could be argued anywhere
>>2690416Ilhan Omar still manages to be the worst among the yank animals.
>>2690418meh, there are way worse american politicians.
>t. yank treatlerite >>2690349>Winners don't use drugsCan't help but appreciate the tautology and subtext of that phrase.
IMO the "brainrot" is "the quiet part" no being longer able to be communicated effectively through the layers of profit-motivated pathology. Inner life was destroyed for marketing and rebuilt by PR and for social media.
>>2690409
>ukronazis
how is he an ukronazi if he refused to participate in the CIA-backed war for NATO expansion and didn't joint the azovites? Isn't draft dodging the based thing to do in Ukraine? I think you're just being cruel for the sake of it.
>>2690348The whole thing is just a buy-in scheme for first dibs on Gaza coastal real estate. Why go through the effort of hiring an artist
https://news.sky.com/story/british-woman-23-shot-dead-by-dad-after-arguing-about-donald-trump-inquest-hears-13505747
>A 23-year-old British woman who was shot dead by her father had argued with him about Donald Trump earlier that day, an inquest has heard.Lucy Harrison, a fashion buyer from Warrington, Cheshire, was staying with her father, Kris Harrison, and his family at their home in Prosper, Texas, in January last year. Ms Harrison's boyfriend, Sam Littler, who made the trip with her, told Cheshire Coroner's Court she would often become upset with her father when he spoke about his gun ownership.He said that on the morning of 10 January - when the couple were due to fly home - Ms Harrison and her father argued about Donald Trump."Kris and Lucy ended up having quite a big argument which led to Lucy running upstairs and being upset," Mr Littler said.He said Ms Harrison asked her father how he'd feel if she was sexually assaulted. Her father replied that he had two other daughters who lived with him so it would not upset him that much, the inquest heard.>Then, Mr Littler said, about half an hour before they were due to leave for the airport, Mr Harrison took his daughter by the hand and led her into his ground-floor bedroom.He said he heard a loud bang some 15 seconds later, before Mr Harrison started screaming for his wife, Heather. Mr Littler said: "I remember running into the room and Lucy was lying on the floor near the entrance to the bathroom and Kris was just screaming, just sort of nonsense."
>In a statement issued by his solicitors, Mr Harrison said: "I fully accept the consequences of my actions, and there isn't a day I don't feel the weight of that loss - a weight I will carry for the rest of my life, and I know that nothing I say can ease the heartbreak this tragedy has caused."I cannot undo what happened, but I can honour Lucy by being the best father I can be to her sisters and by carrying her memory forward in everything we do.
"I am deeply sorry for the pain others feel from this tragedy. Lucy's spirit - her warmth, her humour, her kindness - will live on in all of us who loved her." The inquest is expected to conclude on Tuesday
Telling your daughter you don't care if she gets raped and l killing her to own the libs.
Permaban chagos already
>>2690478Why? Heâs one of the only actual communists in this thread
>>2690481He is a falsifier
>>2690482Don't ban him, he is pretty funny
>>2690474
>just get blown up by a drone bro
>>2690483Permaban him forever. He isnt even funny. He never was funny. He baited nobody
>>2690483If he was funny this board wouldnt be slow
>>2690485He makes Nazis cry so as far as the rest of the world is concerned heâs based
>>2690478>>2690485you're retarded. he is permabanned. he has been permabanned. he's using the tor node to ban evade, and when he's not doing that, he's just changing his IP address. you can't realistically permaban people from imageboards unless you disallow VPNs and tor node. But even then, there's ways around an IP ban.
>>2690490Yeah? Well, why is HE still here then?
>>2690485>>2690484>>2690478Ukro-cocksucking animalistic yanks are mad that I am cheering the repression of an irresponsible lazy ukro seeking 'refuge' (code for treat-seeking). Stay mad, strasserite chimps.
You baboons have never done anything to challenge your fascist empire, which has done much more harm to the world ghan Nazi Germany. You are the pampered Waffen SS boys who still complain because nothing is ever enough for your ogrish appetite. I hope ICE kills atleast 12 yanks every hour. I know for a fact none of you will take up arms aginst ICE. Idc, as long as yanks and the yank-loving wholesome chungus immigrants die, I am happy.
>>2690490I cannot change IP. The racist mods have banned all IPs from my country. They are shit scared of the Star and Key of the Indian Ocean.
When our turn comes, we shall make no excuses for the terror.
>>2690503you sound very happy
>>2690503Not funny. Didnt bait anyone. Unenthusiastic handjob of a post. I can feel the aura of this post. This is a post of someone who is here to do a tedious shitty job he hates
>>2690506I never post bait. As a communist, I hate fascist scum, i.e all Americans.
Chagos tongues my anus
>>2690509The whole world, including chagos, is fascist. How about that?
>>2690518Western leftist adventurism will never not be embarrassing and ineffectual
>>2690522Just a sign of desperation.
>>2690528given the odds of capture, and the consequences, you'd think they'd at least consider what the building is made out of.
>>2690528Itâs a sign of performative activism done in hopes of absolving oneâs complicity in the rape and exploitation of the imperial periphery. Notice that she didnât target a weapons factory, a Raytheon building, or indeed any number of legitimate targets that would deal a critical blow to the imperial coreâs infrastructure. Rather she targeted a potential immigrant detention facility, because the most valuable thing in the world to a white western leftist is that his or her community has commodified âethnicâ slop from their wholesome chungus immigrant underclass. Itâs simultaneously infuriating yet all too predictable
>>2690531Americans are also just retarded my man, most of then are completely ignorant of their gov imperialism and their knowledge is limited only to the shit they see in mainstream news, wich right now i'ts ICE.
Thread is slow because of chagos
>>2690534If any of these retards actually overcame their racism and visited an anti-imperialist nation like China theyâre going to be in for a rude surprise when they find that not only does communism support strict immigration regulations and borders but that law enforcement is far less tolerant of destructive rioters and dancing fags obstructing public infrastructure
>>2690557>jew york timesimagine believing anything the zionist news organization says
>>2690561Why would a Zionist rag want to defame a Zionist mayoral administration?
>>2690409Shitlibs bullying shitlibs is nothing new, shitlib
>>2690522That isnât adventurism dumbass
>>2690535Absolutely
>>2690504spent another day talking to people hates award
see you tomorrow comrade
>>2690495it is explained in the post you didn't read
>>2690443>most if not all professional tasks undertaken by white collar workers will be fully automated by AIyet CEOs will still be paid
>>2690580They would still be paid if any of this was actually happening. Theyâre still getting paid regardless, just without any automation.
>>2690576>This encounter took place at a minimum distance of 800 metres and ultimately forced the foreign aircraft to âexecute evasive manoeuvres to disengageâ, the PLA Daily said … A distance of 800 metres is within visual range and radar lock from this far can signal an imminent threat while also being wide enough to serve as a warning shot.Important detail
>>2690580cant blackmail a machine
>>2690584Sure you can, just make it âhallucinateâ a bit.
>>2690589Hopefully things continue to change so we have a world without Rubio in it.
>>2690590Rubio's mask off imperialism will help the US drag itself deeper and deeper into mud and chaos.
The US will become more and more the world's pariah and without the US the western world will fall.
>>2690603Complete fantasy, the world watched Vietnam burn and did nothing, and even after they won they made American shoes and textiles
What do people think about much analysis being made that a majority of the american public now thinks the democrat party is too "liberal"?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/government/enten-58-of-voters-say-democrats-are-too-liberal-42-of-dems-under-35-are-democratic-socialists/ar-AA1WftEoOf course a standard analysis is that as people become more aligned with left-leaning politics, something which is happening with a significant plurality of the base now describing themselves as socialist, they become more likely to negatively associate the label "liberal" with right-wing economic policy and alignment with wealthy business interests. Of course none of this is mentioned right-wing media which has overwhelmingly reported on this data. Do you think this is happening on a broad enough scale to damage the credibility of this data that is stuck in a false conservative vs. liberal dichotomy? How would you describe yourself if forced to answer some poll that asked if you were liberal, moderate, or conservative. It's pretty clear an american party realignment is underfoot and arguably has already transformed the republican party. Are the democrats going to transform as well or just suicide themselves trying to be fascist-lite?
>>2690612People think 'liberal' means woke shit
>>2690603>>2690607People in the 70s thought the US empire was on death's door. members in the ruling class themselves believed it was terminal. cities falling apart, murders on the subway, riots on the street, golden age of serial killers, satanist cults were prowling around, and the CIA went through so many scandals it was totally delegitimised. Norman Finkelstein and his Maoist sect were plotting the downfall of the US government and revolution was around the corner.
Mao shook hands with Nixon, and in the 80s the US empire bounced back. All this rhetoric that the US is finished is just fantasy and youtubers promoting more and more exaggerations to fuel hopium and clicks to grow their audiences.
>>2690617China is getting to a point it no longer needs the US.
These contradictions are being resolved to a degree no booster shot of Reagan style neo liberalism will be able to fix.
>>2690354there quite literally are no women on this site
>>2690633Trans women are women and they make up most of the posts on /lgbt/
>>2690622Name another consumer market that can absorb all that manufacturing surplus, Iâll wait
>>2690615If someone told me the democrats focused too much on cultural issues and identity politics I don't think I would be able to tell if they were criticizing them from the left or right.
>>2690633Women aren't real
>>2690635You can repeat that all day long but the average man does not want to date a trans woman. So we can just revise the point to "there are quite literally no cisgender women on this site" and it still explains why leftypol has no dating.
>>2690642true
>>2690638You don't think China can adapt to materially changing conditions?
They are already moving away from treats to making solar panels.
All of Asia and Africa will be buying those from China.
>>2690645The average man wonât date anyone he considers to be a 7/10 or below, same with the average woman. Part of being an incel is having impossible standards you yourself could never live up to.
>>2690653Theyâre going to run out of places to export and become fat treatlers themselves. The idea that you can politically contain or control capital is a fantasy.
>>2690645The Internet has no cis women (except insta, tiktok, FB) and the left has no cis women.
We got hit with a double wammy here.
I'm not even sure if the chasers would eat good tbh
>>2690656If they become treatlers with material they produce through non exploitive means there's no problems with that.
The peoples treats are possible.
>>2690654>Part of being an incel is having impossible standards you yourself could never live up to.That isn't at all true, I think normies just made it up to "Just World" inceldom. Plenty of incels go after women that are, what incels would call their "looksmatch" only to be rejected anyway. But regardless this discussion isn't about incels but dating.
>The average man wonât date anyone he considers to be a 7/10 or belowAlso false, the average man will date any woman in close proximity to him. What you mistake for men only dating stacies is just their masturbation habits. But I don't see any women masturbating to ugly men either so…
>>2690660Theyâre going to move the factories out when wages get too high, theyâre already moving factories from china to viet and indo for this reason
>>2690653will they be allowed to buy those from china? what will china do if they are not?
>>2690654>The average man wonât date anyone he considers to be a 7/10 or belowThat's not true. Both men a women have much to high standards but men will go to "any port in a storm" women won't.
>>2690662>But I don't see any women masturbating to ugly men either soâŚMy gf has jacked it to pics of me so you are wrong there
>>2690663>>2690664Chinas democratic process is light years ahead of our western brains no need to speculate
>>2690672This wasnât before you started dating, she didnât come across a creepshot of your dick print in grey sweatpants and immediately started shlicking
>>2690674Democracy isnât real and never has been and never will be
>>2690662I dunno I'm pretty fuckin ugly and women have gooned to me before, I think you just have a skill issue there
>>2690676That's true.
I also used to beat it to BBW porn so I was jacking it to uggos
>>2690572This is materialism
>>2690687ZIOrahn mamdonKKKey btfo
>>2690662>But I don't see any women masturbating to ugly men either soâŚWomen masturbate to the written word. Men masturbate to images and videos.
>>2690687if it's free, what makes it a store?
>>2690692can you stop posting stereotypes as if they're factual. it's just nonsense.
>>2690698Itâs an AI image
>>2690687https://www.fox5ny.com/news/polymarket-free-grocery-store-opens-nyc-heres-how-work
>Polymarket opened a free grocery store pop-up in New York City on Thursday.>Shoppers get to fill a single tote bag with free groceries.>The pop-up will remain open for 5 days.ok so it's a 5 day experiment
>>2690689This ai?
It's pretty sweet regardless
>>2690727sounds more like an advertising/publicity stunt because Peter Thiel is terrified that NYC could be the catalyst for American Socialism. The porkers are literally saying "see look, Capitalism can do nice things too!"
>>2690727Did Mamdani create this much asshurt that they decided to cut a loss and give away free food for 5 days. not 30 days? cheap bastards.
>>2690727still more than SSiorahn has achieved
>>2690733It's not about Mamdani himself, he's already been bought off by the Zionazis. It's about what his election represented. He's inevitably not gonna be reelected for shilling for Zionism, and what comes after him might be worse for the porkies.
>>2690716I think the maga movement will collapse post trump, vance doesnt have trumps charisma. Another thing is that when the gop loses the midterms trump will be blamed. ted cruz is already making moves trying to position himself as an old school establishment neocon to the donors by attacking vance by proxy by attacking tucker carleson.
2028 wont be a walk in the park for vance, the old neocon wing sees this as thier chance to take back power and if they dont win they will bloody up vance for whatever democrat he faces
>>2690612what people want is bill clinton, they want the 90s. they want comic books with the letter X in them, they want extreme sports, they want edginess.
People in general dont like to be micro managed by moral police, whether it be wokesters or evangelical Christians
>>2690749This makes me think we're headed for a UK like slow malaise and I don't like it.
>>2690725Pretty mixed to be honest.
>>2690755in a way the uk is actually better than america, at least third parties are viable there. tories and labour shit the bed now people are voting reform and greens.
but yeah, people go on and on about collapse and civil war, and the end of da world. but really whats going to happen is nothing. nothing ever happens, after trump things will return to a normalcy of neocons and neoliberals trying to out center each other
>>2690758>>2690755>>2690749>but really whats going to happen is nothing. nothing ever happens, after trump things will return to a normalcy of neocons and neoliberals trying to out center each other>2028Explain how
>>2690758NEHcels are extra desperate lately
>>2690763That's true nationally but they're terrified of Marxists gaining popularity at a local level.
It's pretty weird that California doesn't have any Marxist candidates but I get it I guess, this state sucks.
>>2690766Elections in general are gate-kept particularly well, and marxists are typically anti electorialist.
>>2690765A plague that killed a million people combined with the biggest protests in the countryâs history didnât change anything, itâs not possible here
>>2690769Because elections are a stupid way to make any kind of decision
>>2690749Tucker Carlson is based af these days. If that's the way the reactionaries go then they'll do more for the anti imperialist movement than the us "left" ever has
>>2690771Is it not possible, or are you simply just determined to be a NEHcel?
>>2690775Anything less than full nuclear war or the eruption of Yellowstone is basically the status quo
>>2690772Pretty much. It typically hasnât ended well for anyone that tried that route. Usually just ends up with the system getting free credibility and nothing else.
>>2690772Elections are a good way of building popularity though. Take advantage of the system's weaknesses.
>>2690776You might want to readjust your expectations if you honestly believe that. A nuclear war is a bit much, isnât it?
>>2690773He literally works for Russia Today doesn't he? He's just following the money because Fox News fired him and CNN doesn't want him.
>>2690783Idk if he does then I'd vote for him. Comrade Putin will end US imperialism.
>>2690782Yellowstone erupting is more realistic than a military coup
>>2690781You donât take advantage of the system's weaknesses by participating in elections. You only strengthen it by doing so. And the type of popularity youâd be getting isnât the kind you would want.
>>2690789>And the type of popularity youâd be getting isnât the kind you would want.What do you mean? Trump went from running in elections to running to have elections canceled and then J6 after building a cult following. Bernie lost twice but he still did more for bringing Socialism into the American conversation than any politician in the 21st century.
I'm not saying we should focus on electoralism, rather we should use the electoral system to build a base of support that can then be mobilized outside of elections. That's what vanguard parties are for lol.
>>2690771>SOMETHING HAPPENED, THAT MEANS NOTHING WILL HAPPENfascinating non argument
>>2690781Elections are a charisma and popularity contest, communism is about science, science doesnât care about anyoneâs opinions or sentiments, gravity doesnât stop existing because popular sentiment isnât with it
>>2690794If something âhappenedâ but the status quo is the same, did it really happen?
>>2690793Youâre just grifting and scamming and bringing false hope
>>2690793>Trump went from running in elections to running to have elections canceled and then J6 after building a cult followingTrump isnât a commie. Heâs a capitalist. A deeply entrenched one at that.
>Bernie lost twice but he still did more for bringing Socialism into the American conversation than any politician in the 21st century.Bernie was running for president, had the money to do it, and was still openly an utter lib. At best, he was an exception that got vetoed directly by the system.
>I'm not saying we should focus on electoralism, rather we should use the electoral system to build a base of support that can then be mobilized outside of elections.And Iâm saying weâre not doing electorialism period. Itâs just a trap to maintain system legitimacy, and a way of surveillance to keep eyes on ambition and naive communists. And weâre certainly not doing that now when we could instead take advantage of the stateâs current legitimacy crisis instead. Having more communists on the streets instead of on podiums is the way to go at the moment.
>>2690802The status quo isnât quite the same. Itâs been rapidly decaying over the past several years.
>>2690805Even Lenin took advantage of electoralism. It's not a total dead end, it's just not the means to the end. Electoralism is how we engage the normies and demonstrate the limits of reformism and legalism in a bourgeois democratic system
>>2690807It is the same, is an apple no longer an apple when it gets moldy?
>>2690808This is not Russia in 1905 or in WWI
>>2690801>Elections are a charisma and popularity contest, communism is about science, science doesnât care about anyoneâs opinions or sentiments, gravity doesnât stop existing because popular sentiment isnât with itmost retarded shit i've heard in a while.
find me a Marxist leader that didn't have massive charisma.
>>2690808exactly. we shouldn't engage in elections with the aim of winning but of building an organizing base, networking with other revolutionaries, and getting free publicity.
>>2690812By participating in the system, you validate and legitimize it, you do the direct opposite of working to overthrow it, have you read nothing about Eurocommunism and Social Democracy?
>>2690812Marxist Leninists are just radical liberals and like liberals they rely on charismatic politicians who betray the cause and liberalize anyway
>>2690810Would you eat a moldy apple?
Vote for platner to beat fascism
Vote for platner for free healthcare
Vote for platner to free maduro
Communists support Platner.
>>2690820Whether I would eat it had no bearing on if itâs an apple
>>2690820If I'm starving(and Communists ARE starving) I'll eat whatever I can get. If it kills me so be it.
>>2690808You what Lenin engels call revisionist liquidationist electoral cretin. Lenin ran Communist. Amerikan fascists just vote for literal fascist like platner. Electoralism mean voting Communist not for fascist genocidal settler slavery democrat party
>>2690823Would you eat a moldy apple?
>>2690824Whatâs stopping you from eating something that isnât a moldy apple?
>>2690827Again, whether I would eat it has no bearing on whether an apple is an apple, I prefer bananas and oranges anyway
>>2690830Would you eat the moldy apple or not? Simple question.
>>2690827>Whatâs stopping you from eating something that isnât a moldy apple?The fact I don't have access to anything except a moldy apple.
Also your argument is fucking retarded, you're essentially implying anything built by Capitalism is inherently Capitalist and cannot be used for the revolution. Are guns Capitalist? Is housing Capitalist? Are cellphones Capitalist?
I advocate we all build a Left-wing commune in the middle of a major city and engage in large-scale welfare fraud to fund our Commie bunkers.
>>2690832Youâre an LLM, me eating it doesnât affect its status as an apple
>>2690834Youâll never get the permit for the building, the electric and trash companies will skip you over
holy fucking god metaphors were the worst thing that ever happened to human communication
>>2690836The building already exists, we'll just all move into a housing project and destroy the property value by doing drugs outside the building. Eventually we'll buy it out from under the landlords and kick them out, ban the drug dealers and convert the place into a commune. Then we'll convert the first floor into a community food pantry for party members to encourage tourists to join our party for free food.
The black panthers are the blueprint for American Communism.
>>2690837Language itself is pee pee poo poo
>>2690839Theyâre going to bomb you like MOVE
>>2690841Yeah well that's why you have to expand to multiple cities so you can't be exterminated with a single bomb.
>>2690725First man theodores was plebian kulak. He is bourgeois plebian, like vast majority of amerikan plebian. The amerikan plebian lives far better than roman plebian. Fascist amerikan idealize plebian and ignore the productive class.
>>2690834>The fact I don't have access to anything except a moldy appleSo you would eat the moldy apple, willingly.
>>2690835Weâre going to assume you ate the moldy apple like the anon above, and move on.
Letâs say someone in the distant past theorized the existence of a barrel of eternally fresh bananas in your general location. And their theory has remained solid over the years. What is stopping you from following that theory?
>>2690837Is it really though?
>>2690846There is no barrel of fresh bananas in my location, there never has been, no indication there will be outside of college kids who believe in it while eating moldy apples anyway, the theory is bunk
>>2690847>There is no barrel of fresh bananas in my locationDid you ever stop eating the ever more moldy apple to go and check?
>>2690822Platner sucks fuck him
>>2690848I did when I was in college, itâs not there, it doesnât exist
>>2690687Someone tell that guy he's wrong because anti-imperialist socialists invest in Polymarket, the Polymarket store is AES, I put bets on Polymarket for China. I ran the leftypolymarket general for like a month or two.
>>2690850How did you stop eating the moldy apple during college?
total embargo on the USA. force regime change in the USA
>>2690854Not possible nor desirable
>>2690852I went to a free banana protest, felt empty, went home, did my work, and read third worldist literature and realized bananas arenât for me anyway
>>2690858So you didnât stop eating the moldy apple. The mold wore you down.
I don't like apples. What about peaches?
>>2690861Our apples are less moldy than everyone elseâs, and bananas are a fantasy, everyone who claimed to be pro banana was a cynical liar and played heel in wrestling kayfabe, which is all of politics
>>2690858Despite only making up 4% of global population, amerikans consume 20% of all banana export
>>2690858Theres many different types / species of bananas though, you've only gotten used to the yellow commercialized ones. You haven't had the third world green bananas, or the small third world bananas, or the Burundian banana beer.
>>2690869Bananas donât exist in this universe except in theory and cynical political parties promising them in the abstract, try to keep up
>>2690872That one Vice documentary did have me curious about banana moonshine, I might have an alcohol problem
a woman in kansas city missouri set fire to a warehouse (the fire was quickly put out and did very little damage) that was going to be sold to the USA government for ICE usage. on the same day the company that owns the warehouse announced that the would not be moving forward with the sale. it is unclear of this is in response to the attempted arson or if they had planned on doing so even before the arson. apparently there was an organized movement against the sale.
>>2690867>Our apples are less moldy than everyone elseâsAre they? Theyâre pretty moldy, and looking more blue than red at the moment. And thatâs not even speaking of their lowered nutritional levels.
Death to Amerikkkans
>>2690877If that lady could read she would know Capitalism invented fire and to set fire to things with the aim of defeating Capital is like eating a moldy apple.
>>2690888Youâre just jealous
>>2690890The Mountain is never jealous of the pebble.
>>2690893
You still didnât kill that tourist
>>2690897Your words are rubber, mine are glue
>>2690893
Lmao you are dumb
>>2690904He was already a parody of Iron Felix who was already a parody of Gonzalo thought twitter
>>2690902Long live the butcher ICE
That is the position of le ICP
>>2689673>Socialism is more popular than it has been since the 1920.Anon, I…
>>2690904>hottakeYank brainrot faggotry
The Truth has no expiry date
>>2690907You donât know anything about Insane Clown Posse
>>2690911If you dropped this act you could easily get picked up by the western establishment like VS Naipaul
>>2690913Cocksucker Naipaul dissed Mauritius as a future failed state when we got independence. Fuck him. Faggot Naipaul is dead, the Republic lives.
>>2690916A House for Mr Biswas is still the best novel of all time, if you hate him so much, best him at his own game, youâre at least as funny
>>2690917>>2690916Well its the position of dees that you are lame and annoying and will filtered.
dees nutz >>2690917You cannot find 12 socialists in this cursed nation of 340million. Yanks are imperialists. The Yank cannot see beyond his nose. The Yank would sell his own mother for a FunkoPop. The Yank is a narcissist. The Yank is gluttonous.
>>2690923Not yet. Peak is my bloody fist smashing the skull of an Amerikkkan
''leftist
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>>2690923Its over for chagoscells
Hes in the matrix 3 phase of running out of ideas
>>2690877Radlib adventurism
>>2690924You can work for ICE on a work visa, this is your chance, you wonât take it because youâre an impotent refugee cuck
>>2690931Zero Palestinian lives saved but at least she can eat her tacos
>>2690933Hamas canât save Palestinian lives so why is this the bar for people living thousands of miles away?
>>2690443AI is absolutely driving mass layoffs of white collar jobs. I was a sysadmin, that's really not much different than a paralegal. How many more people from these fields can expect the same downward spiral?
Law firm Baker McKenzie is axing up to a thousand support staff employees as it gloats about embracing AI. Wendy's already has AI drive thru windows, my homie took me to Wendy's the other day, they had two people working and an AI on the drive thru. Consider that labor for these jobs was already operating under a skeleton crew ethos prior to AI. Consider that there's already a pool of labor whom these types of fast food, service, retail, warehouse type jobs are the standard. Think non-college educated people. Now throw in the increasing number of jobs lost to AI, and then the mass layoffs and unemployment of educated professionals. How many jobs do you think can be held within those fields, especially if so many of the customers are no longer spending $12-15 dollars on a drive thru meal during their lunch break, because they are unemployed.
Employers have cut 1.1 million jobs this year, new report says. Job cuts so far this year are at their highest levels since 2020. 1.1 million jobs lost and accelerating, there's a reason I say there's nothing exceptional about my situation.
Something tells me that 1099 workers wouldn't be included in these statistics because those workers aren't being reported as workers but as contractors, despite them making up more and more of the traditional workforce. Almost all of my past IT jobs were 1099. Around 25 million workers in the US are 1099 and are not counted in typical layoff reports and quarterly hire/fire reports based on what I just read. So the number of layoffs could realistically be double what's being reported. You know how the wizard likes to tell lies behind the emerald curtain? The regime does the same thing with statistics. All about the spectacle.
So based on what I've been reading about 1099/gig workers and these classifications, we can imagine the real number of people becoming unemployed is more like 2.75-3.5 million, and that's a lower estimate, 1.5:1 to 2:1 with 1 being the reported W2 layoffs. Forbes says 2024 had the most job cuts in 15 years with 761,358 jobs cut. Round that down to 750k and do the same math. 1.1 million to 1.5 million jobs lost in 2024. If 2024 was the worst year in 15 years, 2025 was the worst year in 16 years.
So it's not hard to imagine that 5 million jobs might be lost this year, if the same growth happens. And there's a point wherein the job loss causes a spiraling effect, less spending means less business means less spending. The spiral effects low end workers faster than high end workers, 5 million less people ordering doordash means less money for gig workers who might not be reported, or less money for under the table waitresses and other informal economic spending. This means the ripple starts at the bottom.
Things are going to get worse. Detainment, detention, deportation economy is growing though.
>>2690932And what has she achieved exactly? How does burning down a warehouse that might have been used for purely domestic purposes benefit the imperial periphery?
>>2690937There is no such thing as domestic and foreign policy in an imperial core country, these are not separate areas, US cops receive IDF training
>>2690937It scares bourgeois property owners away from making business deals with ICE for fear of having their private property destroyed.
>>2690935Because Hamasâ desperate defense was predicated on the western leftist opening up a second front. They BEGGED you to do something while their wives and children were being turned into red mist with American weapons and instead of doing anything useful you had orgies on college campuses
>>2690940Well they should have sent us an email correspondence and held a zoom meeting to coordinate ahead of October 7th, they didnât, they got exposed by the Egyptians and jumped the gun on the operation when the ground work in the rest of the world hadnât been done yet, they were in a rock and a hard place in regard to the Abraham accords
>>2690940PFLP called for armed struggle in the core, called for boycotting elections, called for mass mobilization, port blockades, etc.
But if you actually advocate for those things, you're gonna get called a fedposter. And if you actually engage in any of those things? The sex pests over at the PSL are gonna take their megaphones and social media accounts to run counter propaganda and control the narrative. Just like we saw at the campus protests in 2024. Just like we saw with the attempts to stop ships in 2024. And you'll get these peace police who will stand against a chain link blockade of major roads and ports by claiming "adventurism" to anything that isn't marching with a Neville Roy Singham funded protest sign.
But it's okay, we'll get that presidential election campaign going and there'll be plenty of chances for everyone to get molested by leadership, or maybe work your way into leadership so you can do the molesting. If leadership isn't raping the cadre in at least 5 different cities, are you really a vanguard party?
>>2690924this bozo praises ICE for deporting guys who dodged Azovite busification while saying he'd find the least shitty of the shityanks and break their skulls first. deeply mentally ill individual
>>2690943If you like the PFLP maybe you shouldin't be pretending to be an anarchist.
>>2690943donât forget to subscribe and donate
imagine learning a shitty language like english so you could annoy 20 burgers on a dying imageboard
>>2690960It proves third worldism wrong, thatâs for sure
>>2690962look if a naxalite hunted me down and gutted me like a fish I would respect that, but this is just sad
>>2689658The sad truth.
>>2690233Hadn't read that catchphrase in a long time…
>>2690968what if we just killed all these people?
>>2690977Youâre not killing the culture or material conditions that created these people
>>2690986Sus what? Iâm openly gay
>>2690988Youâre openly sounding more like a culture warrior than a class warrior
>>2690988Sus that you don't support the fast food industry and the further proletarianization of workers
"No, there's nothing wrong with ordering prolefeed to your door! Under socialism…"
>>2690939And this helps Palestinians how?
>>2690992Fast food workers have zero leverage over their employers, theyâre not the revolutionary proletariat Marx talks about, McDonaldâs going down doesnât mean anything when thereâs other options and itâs a luxury unlike steel, oil, aluminum
>>2690973I've explained before in this very thread how over 50% of food is thrown out by retailers before it reaches a customer, and how food, once it is purchased is also thrown out at a similar rate. Really Americans eat only 25% of the food that is produced for their consumption. The rest is thrown out. A lot of it is not even composted to improve the quality of the soil even though it theoretically could be. It's real grapes of wrath shit. That's why I don't buy the treatlerism thing. There would be more than enough food for everyone if it were just distributed better. It's not even a matter of our productive forces not being advanced enough, but a matter of capitalists holding commodities hostage until they rot, and wasteful consumers buying things they don't use.
>>2690989The class war was lost by the supposed proletariat 100 years ago
>>2690999>theyâre not the revolutionary proletariat Marx talks about They quite literally are
>>2691003Marx considered maids and servants a reactionary class of workers, thatâs what fast food workers are
>>2690617They weren't wrong in the 70's though. America was in decline. What they were wrong about was a sudden catastrophic failure leading to collapse and magic revolution out of nowhere. Maoists in particular ignore the obvious reality that Mao siding with the capitalists against the USSR gave America a huge boost while hurting the communist movement.
>>2691007If Stalin didn't get assassinated he probably would have stuck with the USSR.
I can't blame someone for not wanting to deal with Kruschev
>>2691004Germany 1918, France 1968
>>2691012And how does this prove the class war was lost?
>>2691006he's confusing marx's concept of "unproductive labor," which originally comes from Adam Smith, (i.e. labor that produces no surplus value, but whose wages are taken out of the profits already pocketed by the capitalist) with the concept of "reactionary," which he is using moralistically.
>>2691011>If Stalin didn't get assassinated ????
>>2690943Glad weâre in agreement that communist revolution in the imperial core is a pipe dream, so you can give up on these performative acts of âresistanceâ you do for treats
>>2691014Neither Germany nor France are DOTPs
Unrepentant war criminal Graham Platner seems poised to win the Maine senator race.
Why yes, I will repost screenshots of my own demented musings
>>2691027Iâm a communist not a leftist
>>2691011I'm not saying Mao should have blindly obeyed Khrushchev but he shouldn't have completely split with the USSR. Basically cooperate on things that help both sides especially constructions and engineering projects while putting pressure on the CPSU to kick out Khrushchev and change policies. Turns out Mao was a retard though.
>>2691017He had a history of strokes and heart attacks so they were watching his activities. For an entire day they noticed no movement or sounds coming from his room, yet ignored it. Evidence the Doctors Plot might have had real elements.
>>2690936Figures are needed. amerikans always say their lives are getting worse as if we take amerikan word as fact
>>2691041Figures are available for your research
>>2691044It not my job to validate everything amerikan says. amerikan says "a report." What report? Say source or or ve silent. Figures defy amerikans' demented musings.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/02/this-is-the-trump-economy-job-growth-crushes-expectations-as-more-americans-work-for-higher-wages/ >>2691026This is pretty based
>>2691017CIA/Mossad poisoning
>>2691009You are welcome anon. Have another big tune.
> I working on a site, sir> As a contractor, a sub-contractor> But when Friday come, I only get the name> I work all day in the burning sun> An' when Friday come, I don't get no pay> My girl give mi the blame, my girl give mi the blame (Oh-oh)> The reason why I'm working> Is to feed my two kids an' wife> I said, the reason why I'm working> Is to feed my two kids an' wife (Oh yeah)> I say, I working on a site, sir, as a contractor> An' when Friday come, I didn't get no pay, I only get the name> Oh yeah-yeah, yeah-yeah> > Working on a site all day in the burning sun> An' when Friday come, I only get the name> Please mister bossman, please mister bossman> I working all day, all day> Dibby-dib-dib, dibby-dib-dib> Dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby-dibby> Yeah, oh yeah-yeah> Working on a site, sir, as a sub-contractor> An' when Friday come, I only get the name> The name> My girlfriend give mi the blame, my> Girlfriend give mi the blame (Yeah-yeah)> She said, "Mother an' father, a blessed the child that I am" (Oh-oh)> A bossman can take his work from you> But he can't take your dread, he can't take it, no-no (Oh yeah-yeah)> What is for you, is for you, is for> You, so just be cool (Oh yeah-yeah)> I working on a site, sir, as a contractor, a sub-contractor> > I working on a site as a contractor> But when Friday come, I only get the name> Please mister bossman, have some sympathy> It's not me, but my kids, my kids, my kids and my wife> I just want to see dem alright (Oh yeah-yeah)> I just want to see dem alright> I just want to see dem alright >>2690725My wife is better than his wife, and I have internet, so I feel like I'm living better than any Roman.
>>2691060wifeposters are so fucking annoying.
when the revolution comes your wife will become my wife you faggot.
>>2691040>He had a history of strokes and heart attacks so they were watching his activities. For an entire day they noticed no movement or sounds coming from his room, yet ignored it. Evidence the Doctors Plot might have had real elements.so it's less that they assassinated him and more that they were derelict in their medical duties
USAnons thoughts on army when without prospects?
>>2691072The army as it currently exists is a hyper-reactionary and patriarchal force, and almost every women I know who was in the military suffered some kind of sexual violence. I'd never even consider it.
honkoid status?
>>2691077Honkoids have been on the down low this week between the Latinx superbowl halftime show and the potential shutdown of ICE.
what are you idiots on about today
>>2691007Anybody got good reading about the crisis of the 70s and reaction to it across the world?
>>2691072The army is bad even with prospects! My great uncle was a Vietnam-war vet and he died a few years before I was born because of a disease he got from Agent Orange. I never got to meet my great uncle so I feel that I gave personal reasons to hate the military even if the real victims were obviously the Vietnamese people. I don't know what my Great Uncle did in Vietnam and weather or not he massacred villagers or if he did nothing other than mop floors or if he was drafted or not but even if he was a war criminal he would not of had to have been if it was not for the United States, this is nurture not nature.
>>2691086same old same old
treatler poodini i cant breed burgerreich faggot puma pants labor aristocracy altadena waffentwerp wrong.
>>2691105Sorry for blogging too much, but I am also interested when other people here blog about their backgrounds. I think it kind of informs your own personal worldview, and also you don't really know other kind of experiences that are different than your own. I enjoyed reading Houdini's blog about the trailer park, don't know why it was deleted. Anyways I find it more interesting than treatlerite discourse.
Electrode status?
>>2691071>they were derelict in their medical dutiesIt's murder if they purposefully and maliciously didn't treat a medical condition in order to kill. It's the same as withholding food and water in a work camp counts as murder.
>>2690238Retarded CIA-slop fed idiot. China is thriving, you are dying.
End of discussion.
So did you ever get your shoe situation sorted out Chagos?
Hope everyone is doing alright and staying safe.
>>2690354>emancipation/reparation is when I get to slave u backGulag
>>2690371U don't know me, bitch. Stfu, lmao
>>2690485>in denialTriple kys
>>2691148>left>socialist>communistThose are three completely different and mutually exclusive things
>>2691149This is why you are all aggro all the time because you are autists obsessed with silly pedantry.
> To accomplish this act of universal emancipation [proletarian revolution and communism] is the historical mission of the modern proletariat. To thoroughly comprehend the historical conditions and thus the very nature of this act, to impart to the now oppressed proletarian class a full knowledge of the conditions and of the meaning of the momentous act it is called upon to accomplish, this is the task of the theoretical expression of the proletarian movement, scientific Socialism.[1] >>2691153they say shit like this every 6 months, they need to keep the AI bubble grift going
>>2691152Isnât it more embarrassing to thoughtlessly repost unfunny anti-communist propaganda made by actual neo-nazis in order to excuse your own liberalism?
>>2691156Why wouldnât you be a liberal? They literally always win, you just lose
>>2691161It all goes back to Marx and Engels, they were the kings of shitting on other people, pussy ass Marx wouldnât take a duel with August Willich
is gaben a good capitalist? is the costco ceos good capitalists
I dont wanna kill them, comrades
>>2691164Thereâs probably a few bourgeois that can get the Puyi treatment
>>2691170Not everything is released. Patience is key.
>>2691170Gabe has two gyms in his yatch snd its still fat ask
>>2691176Food addiction is a bitch
>>2691174I refuse to believe these two were involved in a "satanic" pedo conspiracy.
jims sinegal (costco ceo) is suprisingly a decent person. And gaben is for the most part decent too. (besides he doesnt fuck kids instead hes too busy giving them gambelling addictions)
>>2691180Didnât the gambling thing start with Yanis Varoufakis anyway?
>>2691153the AI job collapse will unironically be when Americans finally get a grip and "radicalize".
Communism can only be achieved out of self-interest.
>>2691181He was there to advise and analyze stuff. And besides gaben could have chosen not to do the gambling stuff but he allowed it.
>>2691181stop believing things you read on imageboards at face value.
>>269115490% of white collar jobs is processing repetitive paperwork tho
>>2691163Agreeing to a duel is stupid. Marx should have ordered a hit on Willich instead
>>2691184that first image isn't weird. it's just a photo with a fan at a hotel?
Until I see robots picking fruit and sorting rotten and aesthetically unpleasing fruit from sellable one Iâm not worried about my hard labor job
>>2691180I dont know the other guy but that fatso Gaben can choke on it. I'd take it back if he didnt allow /pol tier nazi slop games on Steam
>>2691156isn't it embarassing to be so ridiculously hyperbolic that you call a british comedy group from 45 years ago "neo nazis."
>>2691203inside the leftypol poster there are two wolves:
wolf 1: demand the libs "do something" and screech at them for being cringe pacifists
wolf 2: cheer for ICE beating up libs and call the libs neo nazis and ICE trve proletarians who are deporting scabs
>>2691205is the full version on there or just the demo
>>2691205>The PalestinianMax Payne on Steroids.>Most BASED game of all times!!!want to try this now
>>2691205Nah. Fuck freeze peach homey. I dont want no nazi bull shit at all.
>>2691207full version
>>2691208it's actually not very good but you should pirate it because it makes israelis mad
>>2691200Cheapness of migrant labor says hi
>>2691213wouldn't it make the israelis more mad if I paid for it
>>2691200that robot is obviously 10x slower than a human doing the same job.
>>2691215if you pay for it that money is mostly going to Israel through the US.
>>2691201the other guy is the former costco ceo and he:
>paid his workers suprisingly well (way more than other retail workers get paid>gave his workers health and other benefits>had less pay difference to his workers compared to other buisness leadershes a example of a "ethical" billionare who thought being successful in buisness requires treating workers well (except for unions. he busted unions lol)
>>2691220treating workers well turns them into treatlers. workers in the imperial core should be organizing to be treated worse, so they can be more like true workers in the global south.
>>2691033ok see you again tomorrow on
leftypol.org
>>2691223> âThe working class must not constitute itself a political party; it must not, under any pretext, engage in political action, for to combat the state is to recognize the state: and this is contrary to eternal principles. Workers must not go on strike; for to struggle to increase one's wages or to prevent their decrease is like recognizing wages: and this is contrary to the eternal principles of the emancipation of the working class!
> âIf in the political struggle against the bourgeois state the workers succeed only in extracting concessions, then they are guilty of compromise; and this is contrary to eternal principles. All peaceful movements, such as those in which English and American workers have the bad habit of engaging, are therefore to be despised. Workers must not struggle to establish a legal limit to the working day, because this is to compromise with the masters, who can then only exploit them for ten or twelve hours, instead of fourteen or sixteen. They must not even exert themselves in order legally to prohibit the employment in factories of children under the age of ten, because by such means they do not bring to an end the exploitation of children over ten: they thus commit a new compromise, which stains the purity of the eternal principles.
> âWorkers should even less desire that, as happens in the United States of America, the state whose budget is swollen by what is taken from the working class should be obliged to give primary education to the workers' children; for primary education is not complete education. It is better that working men and working women should not be able to read or write or do sums than that they should receive education from a teacher in a school run by the state. It is far better that ignorance and a working day of sixteen hours should debase the working classes than that eternal principles should be violated.
> âIn a word, the workers should cross their arms and stop wasting time in political and economic movements. These movements can never produce anything more than short-term results. As truly religious men they should scorn daily needs and cry out with voices full of faith: "May our class be crucified, may our race perish, but let the eternal principles remain immaculate! As pious Christians they must believe the words of their pastor, despise the good things of this world and think only of going to Paradise. In place of Paradise read the social liquidation which is going to take place one day in some or other corner of the globe, no one knows how, or through whom, and the mystification is identical in all respects.
< It cannot be denied that if the apostles of political indifferentism were to express themselves with such clarity, the working class would make short shrift of them and would resent being insulted by these doctrinaire bourgeois and displaced gentlemen, who are so stupid or so naive as to attempt to deny to the working class any real means of struggle. For all arms with which to fight must be drawn from society as it is and the fatal conditions of this struggle have the misfortune of not being easily adapted to the idealistic fantasies which these doctors in social science have exalted as divinities, under the names of Freedom, Autonomy, Anarchy. However the working-class movement is today so powerful that these philanthropic sectarians dare not repeat for the economic struggle those great truths which they used incessantly to proclaim on the subject of the political struggle. They are simply too cowardly to apply them any longer to strikes, combinations, single-craft unions, laws on the labour of women and children, on the limitation of the working day etc., etc. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1873/01/indifferentism.htm >>2691216But the question is, is paying for one robot mechanic to oversee that robot less expensive than a bunch of migrants with no labor rights and no leverage to negotiate?
>>2691230Weâve had 150 years of history since Marx wrote this, it didnât work
>>2691230i think that anon was being sarcastic
>>2691230you should also endeavor to make it clear that in the greentext part marx is quoting someone else and replying to them in the orange text part. you'd be surprised how many anons won't get that without it being made explicit
>>2691232Long term cost wise, yes.
>>2691240Our current crop of capitalists have no long term thinking, they want the profit at the end of this quarter or the CEO or head of the board faces a coup
>>2691241They do to some degree. Itâs just that itâs very childish and unrealistic long term thinking.
>>2691240you don't know that
>>2691232none of us know that, also there are more expenses than just overseeing the robot. Like it's constant capital. It needs repair/replacement. It burns through electrical energy. presumably it's not solar powered. It also has to deal with humidity and shit. It clearly picks berries slower than a human would as well.
The issue with robots in the video is that its in a controlled demonstration environment where it can work well.
In a uncontrolled environment where theres a lot of potential chaosâŚ.yeah I think humans wont be replaced yet
>>2691248
also you're looking at a nice clean fresh one that hasn't had to deal with 3 months of being outside yet
>>2691246Robots donât sleep. They donât eat. They work 24/7 unless they break down.
>>2691253>Robots donât sleep.they run out of energy if they're not on a cord.
> They donât eat.they eat whatever is burned at the power plant to power them unless they're solar, in which case they eat photons.
>They work 24/7 unless they break down.which they do frequently because they're made of matter which is subject to wear and tear just like people are.
>>2691245If youâre talking about all the singularity and immortality through uploading your brain or using your son as a bloodbag, absolutely, but those are also scams, scams they pull on each other because weâve reached a point where white collar crime is basically legal
>>2691255>they run out of energy if they're not on a cord.Depends on the robot
>they eat whatever is burned at the power plant to power them unless they're solar, in which case they eat photonsNo lunch breaks
>they're made of matterSo are Humans
>>2691257The current state of modern robotics is mostly scans, yes I agree.
>>2691255The robot doesnât have to defy the laws of entropy, just be more durable than people are, issue is anything with electronics isnât going to last and work the same as say, a moderately used gun from a century ago or a century and a half ago, thereâs too many moving parts now
Robots will eventually replace people but it wont be anytime soon. Give it 50 or more years of further development
>>2691206Inside me are two wolves, one is in my mouth and the other in my pussy
>>2691260The problem is material costs are through the roof nowadays. Can't make everything out of super thick steel or whatever. That's why everything is made of plastic now.
>>2691263How much of that is going to survive the entire population of the global south being forced to move north due to climate change in that same 50 years? All the wars, possibly nuclear that are to come?
>>2691263Robots will only mostly replace Humans, even if itâs possible to automate everything.
>>2691266Thereâs also the loss of universal replaceable parts
>>2691267thats the neat part, climate apocolypse might kill off ai and robotics development :^)
fun times ahead :)
>>2691268The issue is, what do you do with the humans afterwards? The whole social contract since the agricultural revolution is people work and are able to eat and have shelter as a reward, when everythingâs automated do we all enjoy the beach and beat off to death or do all the surplus humans get turned into meat next to the government cheese?
>>2691260>The robot doesnât have to defy the laws of entropy, just be more durable than people arethey aren't yet. they also have to be faster. Literally every berry picker robot is startup hype until further notice.
>>2691271depends who controls the means of production during that time. If a socialist revolution happened before hand, then you will get luxary gay space communism. If the means of production is controlled by the bourg still, then you will get "techno feudalism". One where the excess population is slowly gotten rid of because they are useless eaters.
>>2691267>How much of that is going to survive the entire population of the global south being forced to move north due to climate change in that same 50 yearsDepends on how the global population prepares and adapts. Also, why would they move north? If they were to even move somewhere, itâd be to Antarctica.
>>2691270Ai doesnât actually exist, and if climate change can cause that much damage to an entire field, weâd be practically dead.
>>2691271>what do you do with the humans afterwardsCommunism hopefully
>>2691270sometimes I wonder about alternate tech timelines where instead of having an industrial revolution focused on steam and electricity we focused more on making wood-based tech, or using animals in different ways, like spider silk
>>2691271you turn them into the people from wall E. there's no point in using robots to automate the human labor of producing commodities if you get rid of all the people who consume those commodities.
>>2691280>you turn them into the people from wall E. Transhumanism. Make some augmented humans.
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>>2691285The major organizations have got to work on salting the food and paper processing plants in the Sunbelt
>>2691275>>2691284May that kindly fat child get laid far more than I at that age
>>2691284That is Chad maxing.
Seriously what teenager lives the police? That's bitch shit. Cops bust kids smoking weed. They suck.
>>2691284He looks like that yellow dog that cleans and looks after the hallways for free from that US kids cartoon from 2000s with anthro animals. That janny who always does it for free. Even sounds similar.
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