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>>2768926Copypasting everything cuz I'm not the official thread baker
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>I want to thank my fellow leftychuds for making the absolute best banger board on all of leftypol. O7 O7 O7Why are the first replies of this thread gooner slop
>>2770795This site is shit now.
How to end the war? Why doesn't the US just offer to buy the uranium? Trying to steal it will be more expensive.
>>2770798You've been saying this for the past 10 years
>>2770801that rabbit talks retarded
Pretty much confirmed those republican people are in full control of Iran.
I mean like I don't really care bro they can keep the Carlsons and the Fuentes' I don't really like those guys anyway
>>2770799USA-Israel leaders are still delusional. They want a peace that returns things to the way they were before their stupid decision to start the war but don't fully understand yet why the current Iranian leadership is unwilling to accept that. Iranian leadership, in fact, will take no verbal peace deals on their own. they will only stop their attacks on USA-Israel once they feel they've caused enough material damage that they are not in immediate danger of being attacked again in 6 months. Charging tolls for passage through the strait is simply the new normal.
As for the uranium no shot they'll ever hand it over now. They've gotta be working double time to build nuclear warheads.
>>2770807That uranium isn't even ready, they could sell now and buy more later if they wanted but they don't even need conventional nukes since they're doing well enough with drones and hypersonics without causing mass casualties like the west does with carpet bombing. The better deterrent is economic control but squeezing too much at the toll booth will just end up with the development of alternative routes and a focus on renewables.
>>2770799War is not ending, multipoltarity means more global conflicts as established imperial powers (US, Israel) fight to mantain control over emerging imperial powers (China, Iran)
The Iranian bourg benefits from sanctions, so they have the perfect excuse for becoming even more war-mongering reactionaries, they can charge a toll on any boat that crosses the strait and if any sanctions are applied they will also profit from that.
This is the reality of "multipoltarity" not communism, but war, where proles die and bourg become richier
>>2770819>multipoltarity means more global conflictsWar coming closer to home doesn't mean there are more wars. Imperialists are merely feeling insecure
>>2770819It won't end but there should be better alternatives suggested than my example. If anyone wants deescalation they need to start somewhere.
>>2770819>>2770822Realistically speaking, we live in a time period where liberal democracies want to show their force. Basically, they view current situation as "you autocrats wanted rule of power, now we will show you!!!!"
>>2770822>He thinks any war mongering emerging imperialist regime will ever get near the North American continentNot even close
The privileged position of the Americas, specially North America is basically what the British had during the middle agea but on a several orders of magnitudes more. Not a single nation in the old continent is going to dare getting near. It's just going to be a fight for LatAm, Africa and West Asia resources.
>>2770812>but squeezing too much at the toll booth will just end up with the development of alternative routesthere are no alternative routes that aren't within distance of iranian missiles, the real limit is how high the troll toll could be is, well, profit. if the toll + insurance is so high shipping isn't profitable, then bougies simply won't ship.
>>2770826>we won't get touched!!1 We will bomb you with impunity!!1Dude, you'll get massive civil unrest from a hundred corpses. Besides, "imperialist" countries defending from actual real deal imperialists don't fight imperialist countries' population, they fight for survival against America's MIC.
You can claim retarded KIA stats all you want, but while no amount of dropped bombs on civlians (with double tap) can force Iran to surrender, Iranian response against American bases in the area actually defeats USA militarily.
>>2770819>War is not endingMy wager is that war will turn cold, and we will have some sort of normalcy where iran controls the strait and UAE and Saudi Arabia get so desperate they will have to cave. it'll release some pressure off the west, as prices are global, which will allow animosity to continue indefinitely, and iran retains leverage by closing the strait again whenever.
>>2770819>everyone and everything is imperialism and the empire's victims are just as bad as the empire, so let's just support unipolarity by denouncing anyone opposing it m'kay?no. we'll denounce you as a collaborator instead. fuck off
Diaper Rump was planning on having a hospital in the basement of the testicle room.
>>2770833What is being discussed is way ahead of your capabilities of understanding, campist
>>2770831>Besides, "imperialist" countries defending from actual real deal imperialists don't fight imperialist countries' population, they fight for survival against America's MIC. Which is why they are emerging imperialist powers
>>2770822But also multipolarity means there will be more wars.
>>2770836Also
>but while no amount of dropped bombs on civlians (with double tap) can force Iran to surrenderYou are delusional, Japan is proof America has enough bombs to so whatever they want.
>>2770838The us hasn't won a war since Japan
>>2770838One vote, and a subsequent failed coup, is the only reason Operation Downfall wasn't real. Learn history, dumb asshole.
>>2770838do you have a job? i come in the morning, you're here, i browse this place in the evening, you're here. go find some meaningful employment.
Report leftcom poster on sight hes ban evading
>>2770840The Manhattan project wasn't widely known when Operation Downfall was being planned dumbass
>>2770843>Says the ban evasor >>2770839Kinda weird how we lost the Vietnam war and then the Vietnamese started making our walmart brand shoes in sweatshops.
>>2770836>>2770845By the way, same people who talk about how we need to support workers and not support bourgeois states also curiously enough equate fights for survival of "emerging imperialist powers", where their population gets doubletapped in schools, with USA and Israel who are the ones committing war crimes
>>2770844Uh-huh, and how many more nuclear bombs they had in the pipeline? The deciding vote happened after Japan got nuked twice. And the military in China and SEA declared they would fight, anyway.
>>2770845Learn to read you fucking retard, go to English classes and tell your teacher you have dogshit reading comprehension, nowhere here was Gaza mentioned
>>2770819Dumb illiterate weeb
>>2770848>how many more nuclear bombs they had in the pipeline?More than Japan
>>2770847Again, learn how to communicate, you are incredibly stupid which is why you always are unable to stay on topic
>>2770846Where else would you get your shoes, you moron? US-made shoes are unaffordable for US population, because you won so many wars that your quality of life shot through the roof, and now even homeless Americans each are worth 1000 third-worlders.
>>2770846Used to be Americans complained about made in Japan and now made in China. I'll cut the Vietnamese some slack and may they make shoes in peace.
>>2770852They are very nice people.
>>2770854Yes, with a proud heritage as cordwainers and cobblers.
>>2770857Had to google what cordwainers meant. We learn something new every day. 😊
>>2770858DPRK was defending itself against South Korean provocations, which intensified to almost daily attempts to cross the border, shoot DPRK soldiers, etc etc. When DPRK responded, it turned out that imperialists were caught with their pants down.
>>2770862>caught with their pants down.on the shitter is the better euphemism
>>2770858The north also almost lost before China came to their rescue
>>2770861The original topic of discussion, that stema fron my post here
>>2770819 is sonething that your histrionic and autistic brain cannot comprehend
You are not only incredibly stupid, but also an histrionic schizo retard, giigle what histrionic means and find out how deeply mentally ill you really are
>if you successfully defend your sovereignty, you are imperialistNo you fucking illiterate moron, if you sucessfully defend your sovereignity (the sovereignity of the bourgeoisie over a delimited area to exploit the proletariat, which is what a bourgeois nation is), then the next step is to become imperialist, as imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, once the bourgeoisie are able to mantain control over their national proletariat, capitalist own contradictions will force them to try to spread their influencia on their neighbour countries.
I understand that you are an illiterate moron and believe "imperialism is when yt man does bad thing" but pleasez if you are illiterate, if you are an schizo autist with histrionic personality disorder, stay out of conversations you are unable to understand
Iran charging a toll on any voat that crosses the strait is the literal textbook definition of imperialism, even if their power merely exists at a regional level
>>2770866i don't think you know what histrionic means lol, perhaps it's because you giggled it.
>>2770866> if you sucessfully defend your sovereignity (the sovereignity of the bourgeoisie over a delimited area to exploit the proletariat, which is what a bourgeois nation is), then the next step is to become imperialist, as imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, once the bourgeoisie are able to mantain control over their national proletariat, capitalist own contradictions will force them to try to spread their influencia on their neighbour countries.Exactly what I was saying - defending civilian lives in your moronic brain means that local bourgeoisie is becoming imperialist.
>>2770868Histrionic people are overly dramatric attention seeking whores that are sensitive to criticism
We were discussing war and geopolitics and the silly retard went " MUH GAAAAAAZAAAAAA" because I called him an idiot.
>>2770870perhaps you should re-read your posts
>>2770866>influenciawhich nation consumes more beans per capita, per year; Mexico or the UK?
>>2770869>defending civilian livesTo exploit them, not to give them communism, Iran wants to further extend their ability to exploit proles, just like every other capitalist nation, the 2 million dollars they demand per boat is wealth being created proletarians in Gulf states.
>>2770875>y-you are only defending us to exploit us later!Are you, like, 12?
>>2770878You can't be this fucking delusional
>>2770880That's my question to you. In your mind, country's services, military, government working to protect lives of people transforms into a lie to seize person's labor. What the fuck
>2 million dollars they demand per boat is wealth being created proletarians in Gulf states.No, 2 millions come from Gulf's porkies.
>Iran wants to further extend their ability to exploit prolesI guess American bombs raining down on them is only a secondary concern, huh.
>>2770877Us psychos are the ultimate materialists, no feelings, just matter, I see numbers, not people.
>>2770882>No, 2 millions come from Gulf's porkies. ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID
READ MARX
HOLY SHIT
>>2770883deeply anti-communist, no telos. you're worthless and should be thrown in the trash.
>>2770885An egocentric useful idiot.
We fizzlin'. NEHGODS stay winning
>>2770884Marx playing on stock market meant that he was exploiting proles, actually
>>2770890>Marx made 2 millions per stock tradeWow why do rightoids claim he was poor and envious then?
>>2770891Your claim about 2 millions coming from proles is retarded. First of all, you have to prove that 2 millions fee is substracted from workers' wages, and not from capitalist's part of the product.
>>2770891Third worldist theory says that marx was a moor hence why he gets a pass for being functionally an imperialist anglo treatlerite
>>2770892Holy fucking shit dude, please say sike right now you can't be fucking serious
The whole board is going to read this fucking shit you just wrote, do you have no shame?
>>2770895He was the jewish nigger all along!
>>2770896weak cop-out non-answer, are you even trying to rile people up?
>>2770899Come on dude, from where does the "capitalist's part of the product" comes from?
>>2770904you're basically making the same mistake as citizen weston in how wages are determined, so you actually need to answer the question proper or shut the fuck up forever. the toll basically replaces insurance costs, it's just the insurer that changes.
>>2770907No I'm not. Citizen Weston is irrelevant to this conversation. Iran charging a toll and becoming the de-facto insurer is literally turning Iran into an emerging imperial power, the safe passage across international waters was a characteristic of the American Empire, as it declines, other bourgeois capitalist nations seek to rake their place, Iran being one of them
Iran demanding a toll on any ship that crosses the strait is imperialism, as it is the same action that western imperial financial systems did before them
>B-but le defense of le people!Liberal drivel.
>>2770907ignore the leftcomflag troll. they ruin literally every thread lately
>>2770913> Citizen Weston is irrelevant to this conversation> the question regarding how wages are determined is irrelevant in a conversation about worker wageslmfao you couldn't even prompt deepseek correctly, sad
>>2770915We are not even discussing wages, we are discussing value, the value embodied in those 2 millions are not a "product of porki"
>>2770913damn this uygha dumb as shit
>>2770929Theres a thread on meta about the leftcom poster, you could try complaining there
>>2770923give it 10 minutes we'll have AI slop
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