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>>2770772Latest Trvkes:
>The war is going on for a heckin while now<Operation Eagle Claw 2.0 ended in a meh (multiple aircraft lost, who knows how many dead) >Ayadronald Trumeini has converted to Islam and dropped an F-bomb (confirmed by SNOPES, FOX and 4CHAN)<Big happening possible on Tuesday>Zios getting bloody nose in Lebanon, more Kornet and Drone strikes confirmed<Oh yeah, 2nd F-15 pilot recovered (Praise be to Allah -Donald Trump)>Oil is at an all time high, nobody knows what to do except double down on green energy (possibly???)<Zio cops arrest Israeli anti-war patriots>Zelensky met with Al-Jewlani<The Battle Goes On and Young October Is Ahead
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>>2771934What is this thread's opinion on if nukes will be used?
I think they probably won't. But for the first stime since the Cuban Missile Crisis the chance of nukes being dropped is >0%
>>2771948It all depends if they take Russia's and China's warnings not to use nukes seriously.
/s <Brian Berletic @BrianJBerletic 5 hours ago
>As the US president openly talks about premeditated genocide against Iran's "whole civilization," the US is more openly linking its war on Iran to China.
>The US will not simply "give up" in Iran because its war on Iran is a war on wider multipolarism and ultimately against the rise of China itself.
>The US is out of time - each year China becomes stronger and multipolarism becomes stronger.
>The US is now engaged in a dangerous global murder spree to destabilize and destroy as much of multipolarism as possible.
>The US would rather destroy the global economy and attempt to emerge strongest on the other end than simply coexist with the rest of the world.
>The US will do virtually anything - probably up to and including using nuclear weapons against Iran - if not directly - by using its Israeli proxies to do it on their behalf - to permanently destroy the region and further isolate both Russia and China.
>And again - this isn't "Trump" doing this - the US has planned and prepared for this very war for decades - conducting plans it has put to paper verbatim.
>To understand and overcome this threat - people must read the policy papers the US is literally reading from as it wages war and proxy war against Russia, Iran, and China at this very moment.
>as for people betting "Trump" won't use nuclear weapons - they still don't get "Trump" isn't in charge of anything.
>This is an all-or-nothing bid by the US to maintain primacy over the planet before losing it permanently.
>The unelected US corporate-financier establishment - pushing for wars since the inception of America as a nation - have ALREADY USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS - TWICE!!!
>They considered using them on Korea, Vietnam, and even as recently as Afghanistan.
>DO NOT let the US pin this solely on a single politician, or an administration or a US proxy. Make sure EVERYONE involved is blamed and held accountable.
>This is called compartmentalization - dividing up your political fronts when dirty work is required so you can flush the consequences down with one or more of these fronts while keeping the political whole more or less intact.
>The US literally does this every 4-8 years with presidents and scores of wars of aggression and other horrible foreign and domestic policies - and they will do it with this time as well.
>It wasn't "Clinton," "Bush," or "Obama's" wars (although they are accomplices and equally guilty) - they are Wall Street and Washington wars - every single one of them - no matter who is picked to sell them and take the fall for them.
>If you never expose and hold Wall Street and Washington as a whole accountable, they will continue their compartmentalization game forever without end.https://xcancel.com/BrianJBerletic/status/2041526980374561267https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkxcn2FSXoPBqhN_05frbXt43UL72gKjuOg War On Iran: – Trump Threatens Genocide – More Tit-for-tat Bombing
<April 7, 2026 - MoA
>As the world was waiting for President Donald Trump to TACO from his threat to destroy Iran he upped his madman strategy by threatening to genocide its people:
>A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen, WHO KNOWS? We will find out tonight, one of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the World. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death, will finally end. God Bless the Great People of Iran! (TS: 07 Apr 08:06 ET)
>I find it no longer useful to attempt any interpretation of such threats. They are likely a reaction to the failed Isfahan operation.
>After that above threat was posted Iran froze all diplomatic and indirect communication channels with the U.S.
>Meanwhile the war continues at heightened intensity.
>Yesterday Israel again attacked Iran’s largest industrial oil and gas installation in the South Pars field.
>Retribution came fast. Israeli installations at Neot Hovav in the Negev desert were attacked. Saudi Arabia’s Al Jubail industrial area is on fire as are at least three major oil/gas sites in the Emirates.
>This morning the U.S. (again) struck some 50 targets on Kharg Island in what I consider a preparation for an imminent invasion likely to follow this night.
>Israel hit ten Iranian railway stations around Tehran to isolate the city.
>The “Jewish State” also struck the Rafie Nia synagogue in Tehran. It seems to have been an intentional target.
>Iran has published a quite sensible 10-point plan to end the war:>Iran’s 10-point plan includes:>1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again>2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire>3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon>4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran>5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies>6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz>7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship>8. Iran would split these fees with Oman>9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz>10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations
>Iran had previously asked for full U.S. reparation payments for the damage the war has caused. To instead insist on using Hormuz passage funds is a sensible retreat from a hardline position.
>ith Iranian consent more ships are quietly passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
>Whatever might happen Iran wont give up on not closing but controlling Hormuz for very good reasons.https://www.moonofalabama.org/2026/04/war-on-iran-trump-threatens-genocide-tit-for-tat-bombing.html Iran War: Trump Threatens to Destroy Iran in 4 Hours This Evening if No Capitulation; US/Israel Again Attack South Pars Gas Field<Posted on April 7, 2026 by Yves Smith
>Trump met the press yesterday, even hauling CIA chief John Ratcilffe out of his crypt to join Pete Hegseth, one assumes in a show of unity about the threat to destroy the global economy, as if that was a better alternative than conceding that Iran has bested the supposedly mighty US.
>Note that Trump, who has a well-established pattern of setting deadlines and then blowing them off by TACOing or rescheduing them. or sometimes jumping the gun, has lashed himself particularly firmly to the mast this time:
>Trump’s strident insistence that the US has won (so why the need for more operations?) is yet another proof of detachment from reality, of inability to even present a coherent picture.T>rump is predictably doubling down on lying about the status of negotiations. NO1 gives a good recap:
>Iran’s 10-point response demands: permanent end to war (not pause), all sanctions lifted, reconstruction, end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon, Hormuz reopened on Iran’s terms with $2M per ship fee split with Oman>A US official called the response “maximalist” — “not clear if it will allow progress toward a diplomatic solution”>Trump’s deadline already delayed 5 times in 17 days per Kobeissi. Axios reports he may delay again “if he sees a deal coming together”>Iran’s strategic advisor to Parliament: “It is Trump who has about 20 hours to either surrender to Iran”
>Trump’s puffery includes his claim that the US could wreck Iran’s bridges. As Alexander Mercouris in particular has stressed (and leaked conversation from the German military about trying to wredk the Kerch Bridge confirms), bridges are very hard to destroy (damage that might take days or weeks to repair is another matter). The reason the US was able to severely damage Iran’s B1 bridge was that it was under construction.1
>So why this desperate attempt at brinksmanship, where Trump and his team ought to know well that neither threats against Iran or blowing a lot of things up will break Iran’s control of the Strait of Hormuz? And as we feel compelled to point out, that is even before getting to the very real risk of Iran destroying Gulf state desalination plants and/or energy infrastructure. But Trump has said he loves the world circa 1890, so perhaps setting what passes for civilization back massively looks like a positive outcome to him.
>But (perceived} necessity is the mother of invention, or here, desperation. We have pointed out, along with many others, that the US and its allies are running out of not just defensive but even offensive weapons, with April the timeframe when inventories of many critical and hard-to-replace systems become catastrophically low[…]https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2026/04/iran-war-trump-threatens-to-destroy-iran-in-4-hours-this-evening-if-no-capitulation-us-israel-again-attack-south-pars-gas-field.htmlMore Clarity on CSAR Mission to Rescue the WSO… Re-Examining Assumptions<7 April 2026 by Larry C. Johnson 216 Comments
>There is more information emerging about the rescue of the second crew member from the downed F-15E. The story the Trump administration is telling is, in my opinion, an exaggeration. It is now clear that once the plane crashed, the CIA and the Pentagon launched a massive disinformation campaign to convince the Iranians that the plane and missing crew man were in a different location. They did a good job of misleading the Iranian authorities.
>The fabricated story was that the F-15E was shot down in ‘southwestern Iran’ with geolocations showing roughly 30.787710, 50.701440, which is about ~80km from the Iranian coastline:
>That was all a smokescreen. The plane actually crashed in an area just south of Isfahan at 32°22’52.5”N 51°40’19.6”. It is now clear that the CIA and DOW were putting out information that the jet had crashed near Khuzestan, which is near the north end of the Persian Gulf… About 120 miles from the actual crash site (see map below), in order to keep the Iranians from going to the actual crash site:
>Based on the map at the top of this article, the WSO Colonel landed near highway 65 and then hobbled less than 1 mile up the mountain slope to the west and hid himself in a mountain crevice. The initial report that he walked/hobbled five miles and then clambered 2000 feet up a mountain to a hiding place is a fish tale. It will play well in the movie, when it is made.
>Take a look at the following map. The WSO landed somewhere just south of Mahyar and then moved almost two kilometers to the east to await rescue. The FARP, aka Forward Arming and Refueling Position, was located about three kilometers to the east of the WSO’s hideout. That means the CSAR landed near the Shah Ali Shrine.
>So how many military personnel were involved in this rescue? There are three crew members on each C-130J. Both planes were loaded with two AH-6 “Little Birds.” I continue to believe that the C-130Js had been pre-loaded in prep for a JSOC mission to raid the nuclear sites in Isfahan or Natanz, which is north of Isfahan. However, I doubt that the rescue mission would have required pilots for all four birds. Instead, I believe that there were only two sets of pilots — i.e., two to fly the rescue mission and two as backups in case the first AH-6 failed or crashed. This brings us to a total of 10 personnel so far.
>Which brings us to who conducted the rescue… I believe that at least two, and maybe four, members of the 24th Special Tactics Squadron, aka 24th STS, were involved. They are the PJs — i.e., Pararescue Jumpers. They are the ones who sat in the side door of the Little Bird that flew up the mountain to rescue the WSO. Here again, I’m assuming that there were only two PJs on the bird, and the other two remained at the FARP as backups.
>This leaves us with the issue of perimeter security. The press has reported that members of SEAL Team Six were involved in the operation. The C-130J, in addition to hauling two AH-6 helicopters, can carry 8 to 12 personnel with combat loads. This means there was a maximum of 24 personnel to provide perimeter security or a minimum of 16. The press reports that more than 100 personnel were on the ground, in addition to the crews of the C-130Js and the AH-6 helicopters is, in my opinion, a gross embellishment. If there were that many people they would have needed a third C-130J to arrive on scene.
>The guys who executed this mission did an incredible job. If you look closely at the map there are a couple of population centers nearby, which means they likely encountered hostile fire and probably killed a few of the local population that tried to approach the scene. I doubt that there was a sustained firefight because such activity would have made it unlikely that the C295 plane that arrived to evacuate the CSAR force would hot have landed and taken off without getting shot to hell.
>I think it will be a year or two before we get the straight story about what really happened. During my time consulting with the Special Ops community I witnessed the lies told about the mission to kill Bin Laden, the Red Wings disaster in Afghanistan trying to rescue Lone Survivor, Marcus Luttrell, and the friendly-fire death of Pat Tillman.https://sonar21.com/more-clarity-on-csar-mission-to-rescue-the-wso-re-examining-assumptions/It's Official: US Boots-On-Ground Deep Inside Iran Amidst Another Day of Humiliating Losses
<Simplicius Apr 05, 2026
>The morning broke with news of a large-scale US operation to supposedly extract the second downed pilot (WSO - Weapons Systems Officer) from Iran, who had ejected from his shot-down F-15E on Thursday. The scale of losses for this operation alone turned out to be massive, as the US lost hundreds of millions worth of planes allegedly getting the airman back to safety.
>The operation involved all kinds of Special Forces units which amounted to “boots on ground” inside Iran for the first time—at least officially.
>The story is roughly as follows[…]https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/its-official-us-boots-on-ground-deep The working class must oppose Trump’s threat to annihilate Iran!<David North @davidnorthwsws 5 hours ago
>During the past hour, Donald Trump has issued yet another threat against the people of Iran.
>He has said, “an entire civilization will die tonight.”
>This crime, if carried out, will implicate the United States in an act of absolutely monstrous dimensions, comparable only to the crimes committed by the Nazis during the Second World War.
>Even at this late hour the working class throughout the world must declare its opposition to this monstrous crime. It must be stopped. It cannot be allowed to happen.
>We declare our solidarity with the people of Iran. We will not allow this action to take place and for those who are responsible for it to go unpunished.
>This is the responsibility of the working class, indeed it is the responsibility of all of humanity.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/07/digm-a07.htmlTrump sets Tuesday night deadline for the massive war crime against Iran<Patrick Martin 16 hours ago
>The United States is on the brink of a moral and political catastrophe. This is the inescapable conclusion to be derived from Donald Trump’s press conference on Monday.
>The language of the press conference speaks for itself. Trump declared, in the midst of a series of homicidal statements, that the US military would destroy Iran as a country if its leaders did not immediately surrender to US demands. “The entire country can be taken out in one night,” he bellowed, “and that night might be tomorrow night.”
>Before a worldwide television audience, Trump put on display the frenzy that he had previously vented with obscenities on social media Sunday morning. “We have a plan because of the power of our military,” he said, “where every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12:00 tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding, and never to be used again. I mean, complete demolition by 12:00. It will happen over a period of four hours, if we want it to.”[…]https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/07/qchq-a07.htmlConcerns over private credit deepen as war on Iran intensifies<Nick Beams 17 hours ago
>Concerns about the stability of private credit and its potential for triggering a financial crisis via its connections to insurance companies has reached the top level of the US financial system.
>Last week the US Treasury announced that it would initiate a series of meetings with domestic and international insurance regulators starting this month and continuing into the summer. This would “allow participants to survey recent market events, emerging risks, risk management practices and outlooks for the sector.”
>Central to the concerns in the Treasury is the rapid, largely opaque and unregulated growth of private credit and its intertwining with insurance companies, which have turned to private credit to try to boost their returns, as well as with banks which have financed them.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/07/gaes-a07.htmlTrump’s threats to destroy Iran and the breakdown of American democracy<Andre Damon @Andre__Damon 6 April 2026
>On Sunday, US President Donald Trump issued a profanity-laced rant on Truth Social vowing to destroy Iran’s civilian infrastructure in a series of war crimes.
>“Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the F**n’ Strait, you crazy b****s, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”
>A day earlier, Trump wrote: “Time is running out — 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them. Glory be to GOD!” Trump told Fox News Sunday morning: “If they don’t make a deal and fast, I’m considering blowing everything up and taking over the oil.”
>The invocation of Allah—the name for God used by Muslims—in a message on Easter Sunday threatening to send the population of a predominantly Muslim country to “Hell” is an overtly Christian fascist statement, giving the war the coloration of a crusade.
>The president of the United States is threatening to destroy the power grid and bridges of Iran, eliminating the basis of civilized life for 90 million people. These are statements of total criminality, within the framework of an illegal war of aggression.
>Trump operates completely outside the framework of international law, of democratic conventions and basic legality. His statements and actions are a testament to the total breakdown of American democracy under the pressure of extreme inequality, endless war and spiraling social, economic and political crisis.
>The overwhelming majority of the American population is disgusted by and opposes Trump’s illegal war against the people of Iran. They rightly see him as a criminal and a gangster.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/06/ukcy-a06.htmlUS, Israel wreak further damage on Iran’s cultural heritage<Erik Schreiber 5 April 2026
>The atrocious character of the American and Israeli war on Iran is apparent not only in the aggressors’ murdering of civilians but also in their attacks on Iran’s cultural heritage. The latter country’s near-total internet blackout and the proverbial fog of war make obtaining a clear picture of the ongoing vandalism difficult. Nevertheless, independent reporting indicates that at least 56 Iranian cultural sites have been damaged or destroyed.
>Iranian officials say that over 131 museums, historical buildings and cultural sites have been damaged. This barbarity is assaulting not only Iranian culture and history, but also the heritage of humanity as a whole.
>Many UNESCO World Heritage sites have been damaged. One, as we have reported, is Golestan Palace in Tehran, a royal complex and former seat of the Qajar dynasty with roots in the 15th century. This complex sustained damage from a direct strike, as well as blast damage. Another is Chehel Sotoun, a Safavid-era pavilion in Isfahan that dates to the 17th century. The UN recognizes these sites as containing “cultural and natural heritage around the world considered to be of outstanding value to humanity.” They theoretically enjoy legal protection under an international treaty, and the attacks on them underscore the Trump administration’s open contempt for international law.
>More recently, the US and Israel have damaged Saadabad Palace complex, a former royal residence in Tehran. The complex was the home of the Qajar and Pahlavi shahs, including Reza Shah, who was installed through a coup executed by the United States and the United Kingdom. After the 1979 Iranian revolution, parts of the complex became public museums. The Green Palace, one of the three palaces in the complex, has been called the most beautiful palace in Iran.
>Strikes also have damaged the Marble Palace, which was built in 1933 while the Pahlavi dynasty was in power. The palace stands on lands that belonged to Qajar princes, and Iranian institutions used it for almost 40 years. It has served as the headquarters of Islamic Revolutionary Committees, the offices of senior judiciary officials and the office of President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani. It also has housed the Iranian National Jewels.
>Teymourtash House in Tehran, which was owned by the first minister of court during the Pahlavi era, also has been damaged. Notably, the building incorporates Iranian, Russian and Indian styles of architecture. The mansion’s first floor houses a war museum with exhibitions dating from the Safavid era to the Pahlavi era. Like Saadabad Palace and the Marble Palace, Teymourtash House is not an isolated building but a museum network. Damage to these sites has thus affected archives, collections and the ability to conduct research. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/06/bwxc-a06.html >>2771949i think "dropping a nuke" would mean tactical, small-scale, maybe EMP only.
honestly not that unlikely. remember that one polymarket bet too.
US Loses F-15 & A-10 Warplanes as Costs Rise Amid War on Iran<The New Atlas - Apr 3, 2026 Eurasia/Middle East
>The US has lost an F-15 and A-10 warplane over Iran within a short span of time;
>While this is a tactical snapshot that may betray strategic reality, it poses possible implications regarding Iranian air defense capabilities and strategies based on air ambushes;
>If further incidents like this take place, it may force the US to scale back sorties over Iran and depend more on stand-off strikes, reducing the pace and intensity of US aggression;
>It is important to back up possible strategic implications with more than a single tactical snapshot meaning only time will tell regarding the significance of this event;
>References: >BBC - US pilot rescued after fighter jet downed over Iran, US media report (Apr. 4, 2026): https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r395l91l3ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0UZAmbyfD4 Iran Defiant as Trump Threatens ‘A Civilization Will Die Tonight,’ w/ Mouin Rabbani <BreakThrough News -Live 4 ago Rania Khalek Dispatches
>Donald Trump has issued a shocking ultimatum to Iran: submit, or face the destruction of its civilian infrastructure and the total devastation of the country within hours.
>As Washington and Tel Aviv escalate their war threats, Iran says it will retaliate in kind with potentially catastrophic consequences for Israel, the Gulf, and the wider region.
>Meanwhile, Israel continues its assault across the region: threatening Tehran with the Dahieh doctrine, demanding unilateral disarmament from every force that resists it, and pushing Lebanon toward collapse and capitulation.
>To break down what this moment means, Rania Khalek is joined by Mouin Rabbani, co-editor of Jadaliyya.
>They discuss: Trump’s ultimatum and the threat of massive war crimes against Iran, Iran’s response and what Tehran is demanding, The US-Israeli divide over war aims, How the Strait of Hormuz could become Washington’s Suez, Israel’s campaign for regional military supremacy, Lebanon, displacement, and the attempted “Shia Nakba”, Whether Israel’s regional hegemony is beginning to crack, What this war reveals about American decline, The global costs of Israel’s unchecked power,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D7CbinXEokIran Can Keep This War Going for YEARS – And the US is Running Out of Everything<Carl Zha and TIO Talks with Warwick Powell - Apr 6, 2026 Silk and Steel Podcast
>Carl Zha is joined by Professor Warwick Powell from Australia to discuss the devastating second-order effects of the Iran war – and why the US is trapped in an escalation spiral it cannot escape.
>Iran can sustain its current tempo of drone and missile attacks for years – the US cannot, The US has already consumed a significant portion of its total arsenal in just weeks, Australia has less than 30 days of fuel left – and rationing is being discussed, China has banned exports of refined petroleum products – 32% of Australia's jet fuel is just GONE, The fertilizer crisis is already affecting global food production – and it's planting season, US diesel prices have hit $5/gallon – second time in history (last time was COVID)
>Why the escalation trap means the US cannot afford to lose – but cannot afford to keep fighting, The Vietnam parallel: Pentagon knew they couldn't win – and fought for years anyway, What Iran actually wants: No US bases in the region and reparations, How the Gulf monarchies are realizing their "American shield" is actually a target, Why China's electrification strategy is looking genius right now, The countries most vulnerable to fuel shortages: Philippines, South Korea, Taiwan, India, Why even if the war ended today, it would take 6 months to restore oil production, Plus: The "pederast protection regime" in Washington, why the Democrats are silent, and why China is the only stable ship on a stormy sea.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK2pjczh4NMApocalyptic War Begins – Iran STRIKES Saudi Oil & Trump’s Next Move | Sharmine Narwani<Danny Haiphong- live 5 hours ago #iran #trump #israel
>Sharmine Narwani of The Cradle joins the show to break down the massive Iranian response to Trump's threat to wipe out Iran's civilization as his "power plant & energy" ultimatum ticks down to zero. We break down the latest in Operation True Promise 4 and whether this war is heading toward an apocalyptic escalation plus much more!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUUeKn0Zhm4Iran is winning the war. This is why<Geopolitical Economy Report - Apr 2, 2026
>Iran is winning the war that was started by the USA and Israel. This is now admitted even by major Western media outlets. Tehran has successfully destroyed the US military bases in West Asia (aka the Middle East), forcing the Pentagon to operate from Europe.
>Ben Norton explains Iran's goals, and how it is seeking to establish deterrence and escalation dominance, using asymmetric tactics.
>Links and sources here: https://www.geopoliticaleconomy.report/p/iran-winning-war-us-trump
>Topics 0:00 Iran is winning the war 2:32 Iran's strategic goals 2:47 Failure of regime change 3:34 US military bases 4:25 Iran destroyed US bases 7:32 USA wages war from Europe 8:53 Bases used by USA in Europe 9:30 Iran's objectives 9:55 Gulf monarchies (GCC) 13:36 Normalization with Israel 14:44 Threats to Gulf regimes 16:30 Lifting of US sanctions 19:00 Oil and Strait of Hormuz 22:24 Escalation dominance 23:23 Costs of the war 25:24 USA running out of missiles 26:49 Deterrence29:07 US and Israel are losing 29:32 Multipolar world 31:24 Outro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zV26rb-9YsEIRAN WAR: Desperate Trump And Dangerous Quagmire w/ John Mearsheimer<The Duran - Apr 6, 2026 The Duran Podcast0
>IRAN WAR: Desperate Trump And Dangerous Quagmire w/ John Mearsheimerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5DbNuMvUpw IRAN WAR SIT REP APRIL 5/26: AMBUSH MODE AIR DEFENSE<The Anti-Empire Project - Apr 5, 2026 Gaza War Sit Reps
>Was April 3/4 the first attempt at the ground war? The diplomatic track is closed, despite Zarif's op-ed. How Iran's air defense works on ambush mode. Some of what Iran knows about ground war. The future of the Strait and why Iran keeps proportionate. Why there's no button that US / Israel can press, including the nuclear button, to win. Lebanon keeps doing the impossible… as we head into a week that will likely include tremendous infrastructure destruction of all sides.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7UAwuqpw3sUS Prepares Huge Iran Strike; Russian Spy Satellite Data Helps Iran; Kiev Fears Big Oreshnik Strike<Apr 7, 2026 - Alexander Mercouris
>US Prepares Huge Iran Strike; Russian Spy Satellite Data Helps Iran; Kiev Fears Big Oreshnik Strikehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RUWotSz-J8Iran 10-point plan. Attacks escalate, Kharg Island hit. AXIOS, Trump is Mad Dog. Vance in Hungary<Alex Christoforou - Apr 7, 2026 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxpHhkLdpA4Col. Larry Wilkerson: US & Iran NOW in Direct GROUND WAR – Air Strikes Hit DEVASTATING All-Time Peak<Dialoge Works - 1 hour ago www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmvgpeIAgbU
Iran is Winning: Why Trump's War Has Become America's Suez Crisis<Carl Zha - 9 hours ago Silk and Steel Podcast
>Carl Zha is joined by Arnaud Bertrand (French entrepreneur and geopolitical analyst) to dissect the astonishing developments in the Iran war – where Iran is not just winning tactically, but strategically reshaping the entire Middle East.
>The headlines are staggering: Iran said weeks in advance: "If you hit our nuclear site at Natanz, we will hit your nuclear site at Dimona." Israel hit Natanz. Iran hit Dimona – twice.
>Iran has turned the Strait of Hormuz into a tollbooth – and countries are paying, Trump is now begging China for help – and getting ignored, The US just attempted a secret special forces raid to capture Iran's nuclear material – and it appears to have been a major disaster, The official story of a "heroic rescue" of a downed pilot is falling apart – hundreds of troops, multiple transport planes, and $300 million in equipment lost,
>We break down: Why this war is America's Suez Crisis – the moment the empire lost control, How Iran's tollbooth system will permanently change the security architecture of the Middle East, The failed special forces raid – and why the official story makes no sense, Why even the former CIA director says he trusts Iran more than the Trump administration, The USS Ford "laundry room fire" – Trump himself blew the cover story, How Europe is fracturing from the US – and why French kids now hate America, Why Atlanticism is dead – and what comes next for Europe, Plus: The BBC's insane propaganda (then quietly deleted), why the Iranians are winning the social media war, and the one thing that could force Trump to back down.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QtYHrz2uTkJeffrey Sachs: US Has NO Plan to End Iran War | Global South Must Break Free from Imperialism<India & Global Left - Apr 6, 2026 Left take with IGL
>Is the US–Israel war on Iran anywhere close to ending? According to Jeffrey Sachs, the answer is a clear no.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPr1lDJJz10Alastair Crooke: Iran Will Emerge Stronger After the War & Reshape the Global Economy<Glenn Diesen - Apr 7, 2026
>Alastair Crooke is a former British diplomat and the Founder of Conflicts Forum based in Beirut. He was formerly an advisor on Middle East issues to Javier Solana, the EU Foreign Policy Chief. Crooke outlines Iran's retaliation strategy, which entails conditional access to the Strait of Hormuz.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wMB1oSrqvo=US Escalates To Nuclear Threat | Stanislav Krapivnik==
<Neutrality Studies - Apr 7, 2026 Interviews
>Pascal Lottaz is joined by former US Army officer and military analyst Stanislav Krapivnik to discuss Trump’s threats toward Iran, the claimed rescue mission, risks to Gulf energy routes and power systems, the danger around nuclear sites, Israel’s role, and whether Iran, Russia, and China can raise the cost of a wider war.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACADqqgnPdM"Rescue, Losses and Deadlines" Kalibrated Iran War Update
<Kalibrated - Apr 6, 2026>A downed U.S. Air Force F-15, 2 pilots stuck in Iranian territory and a daring rescue mission to save them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcOsm4LqKZQTrump would risk global catastrophe rather than admit defeat in Iran, with Ali Abunimah<The Electronic Intifada - Apr 2, 2026 #TheElectronicIntifada
>On 1 April, President Donald Trump gave a prime time address about his and Israel’s brutal war against Iran that has expanded across the region.
>Many hoped Trump would signal an end what has turned into a historic debacle for the United States and Israel, while inflicting suffering on people across the region and threatening the global economy.
>Some have dismissed the speech as containing no substance but, as Ali Abunimah argues, it more than likely signals further escalation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0ZRDY32200US Air Force Just Suffered Its Worst Day in Decades<HistoryLegends - Apr 4, 2026 #historylegends
>On 3 April, Iranian Air Defense shot down 2x US Air Force aircraft: 1x F-15E Strike Eagle and 1x A-10 Warthog. That same day, two Black Hawk helicopters and a F-16CJ were also possibly downed due to hostile fire. As we speak, a rescue mission is taking place to recover the 2nd crewmember of the F-15 that shot down over Iran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__utuo9IlL4 >>2771948I think the factors in favor of Nukes being dropped
>Trump thinks big explosions are cool (MOAB)>Trump is desperate and thinks breaking taboos is his secret sauce>Probably has advisors convinced that if he drops a nuke, Jesus will come backFactors that might cause him not to drop a nuke
>Military chain of command might revolt>Trump might be viscerally terrified since Iran proved it’s not a pushover.>Even Trump can recognize he’d be an international pariah if he drops the bomb. >>2771948I don't think they're gonna use nukes. I don't see the strategic advantage to using nukes over conventional strikes on the infrastructure he's already talked about bombing. If anything happens it's going to be conventional. Making it nuclear would change the calculus of world conflict too much for relatively little gain for him.
Based on all the reactions from public officials, I kinda buy that one anon's theory from the last thread that he's trying to do two things at once and stir up domestic chaos for a power grab at the same time.
>>2771967What’s the theory if you remember, anon? Curious.
Anons, there's not gonna be any nukes.
Heaps of articles now dropping hints that a ceasefire is about to be concluded before the deadline.
Trump will shit himself in happiness that he 'forced' the Iranians into a ceasefire without concessions with his threats, and everything will get pushed back another two weeks or longer. This is the obvious answer when you look at how the Israelis are getting in as much bombing now before they have to hold off.
>>2771948Seems extremely unlikely, what is different about this situation then previous close calls? Just Trump is suicidal enough to risk it? It likely wouldn't fix his mess, either. So he has to be both suicidal and delusional and so does the rest of his cabinet.
>>2771974>Trump will shit himself that much is clear
>>2771976They're part of a death cult who believes Jesus will come back to Earth if they let Israel rape and pillage the entire Middle East m
>>2771974The Iranians wont concede to his terms any way, so I dont see how thats an argument for a possible de-escalation
>>2771967I'm thinking of
>>2771366>I feel like he's baiting a reaction from other politicians and bureaucrats so that he can invoke some kind of bullshit emergency powers clause and stay in power for longer. The fact that Tucker et. al. have suddenly started urging people to disobey orders fuels my suspicion. These aren't principled people. >>2771948>What is this thread's opinion on if nukes will be used?I can't fathom the idea. I think Trump is being set up to shoulder the responsibility for literally everything unsavory (to westerners) since 2014. And "blundering" into another MENA bloodbath and more or less abandoning the UN is part of it. But nukes? I would think the USA is more cunning than that, and Trump isn't
really at the wheel.
Truth-storms aside, for as much of an idiot as Trump sounds, the USA has , in practice: Retaken MENA by force, cornered Iran, turned Venezuela into a colony and pretty much gotten away with exterminating Gaza and annexing the west bank. As well as stalling the RF's advance in Ukraine and presumably re-chuddified much of south America. Those things are not done by tweeting.
>>2771948The messages are way too vague for it to be nukes. If it's meant to represent anything, that would be another round of epic bacon bombings with 50% more you lost transhumanist coping. Yes it's meant to make you shit your pants because your mind jumps to nukes but they already destroyed all their navy, missiles, drones and leadership about 70 times, so overstating what they do in order to manipulate the markets and look tough is the trend.
>>2771984 (me)
And bonus upon bonus, they made the Europe pay for it.
>>2771973I'm stupid and replied to myself.
>>2771982 >>2771981Nah, not a permanent ceasefire, I'm thinking a temporary days to weeks thing. Gives the US/Israel time to shift around interceptor stocks, repair, rearm, and gives the IRGC time to rebuild bombed roads/bridges. Israel's making sure to get in as much damage as possible before that happens, to keep the Iranians preoccupied.
>>2771993CRY HAVOC
AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR
>>2771964>>2771984
>Retaken MENA by force, cornered Iran, This did not happen
>>2771998>>2771996Couldn't it just be that they refueled something in that area where they were doing circles? Maybe long range bombers like the B2?
>>2771998>>2771998They're saying "massive strikes" reported in Tehran so
>>2772001is this a good sign?
>>2771996>>2771998don't pay too much attention to flightradar in that area.
between spoofing, and other trickeries, only military experts could be sure that what you see is real or not.
>>2771993are you telling me, after years of telling me that it was X person, or Y person, that influenced the president, it was trumpedo all along?
shockers.
not really.
>>2771982I don’t see whatever power he can grab, he’ll face a coup/revolution it he continues to escalate and drag this out. He still has somewhat of chance to puss out and then golf the rest of his term. Currently he’s setting it up so his military turns on him, and he’s exhausted said military. And he’s caused a global economic recession if not depression. He can declare himself all the legal power he wants but if the country is starving, the troops are defeated and betrayed hell just be king of ash that’s looking to swallow him.
>>2772008There wont be a military coup in America lol
>>2772007TACO got posted one too many times, and the orange tard has had enough.
>>2772012>posting NEH before 8pmDaring today, are we?
>>2772001Nobody knows. The psychos are unpredictable and the nukes it would take to destroy 93mil people in a country nearly the size of Europe will contaminate the whole region and cause terrible storms, floods, famines and pestilence worldwide
How many hours until we find out everyone in the world is okay with atom bombs being used by Jewish supremacists
What has really changed to warrant such a reaction to Trumps usual hyperbolic tone to think that anything would change or happen?
>>2772019I still think nukes probably wont be dropped, but if they are everyone has a sacred duty to storm their local US embassy
>>2772018The failed mission to extract the uranium and the fact that his dementia is more apparent and difficult to sanewash for his believers.
>>2771984>Trump sounds, the USA has , in practice: Retaken MENA by force, cornered Iran, turned Venezuela into a colony and pretty much gotten away with exterminating Gaza and annexing the west bank. As well as stalling the RF's advance in Ukraine and presumably re-chuddified much of south America. Those things are not done by tweeting.Yeah and Hitler was almost to Moscow, had the British cornered and was winning in Africa. There’s are short term wins with baked in long term loses and consequences. Iran is emerging from this war as a Major global power. Israel won’t survive the rest of the century, possibly the next couple decades and now the petro dollar is donzo and china is becoming an undisputed superpower. The U.S at best if they keep the current trajectory will be a warlord ridden shit hole selling raw resources to china and other advance economies while everything devolves into 3rd world status. While the rest of the world moves on and America becomes the new mid east. A managed warzone between global powers. If the U.S goes hard left we can develop along with the rest of the world and negotiate an exit from empire.
>>2772018what has changed? 40 day have passed, and he's not getting that strait open.
>>2772011he is calling the media to tell them
TELL THE WORLD IT'S FING ME, YOU IDIOTS!, in his most senile blabbering.
trump just tweeted and suspending the bombing for 2 weeks
>>2772038>>2772037he's negotiating with himself, again.
Its over it seems, betting on nothing worked again
>>2772008We'll see how bad things actually get in burgerstan but I think it would have to be unbelievably rough before a real coup would occur. I guess there is something to be said about why would he even need to come up with a reason to consolidate more federal power to himself though. He doesn't face any domestic resistance anyway, except for strongly worded letters sometimes.
Ceasefire only in effect if Iran unblocks the strait
>>2772038I’ll wait until 8 just to be sure
>>2772037>>277203825th amendment nao
He'll threaten them again within the next day or two.
>>2772047damn, the ceasefire won't happen them.
pump my bags harder you orange faggot
>>2772037>>2772038Never mentions that Iran has agreed to the ceasefire btw
nehcells on suicide watch
>>2772037Guessing nothing ever happens and Iran will continue like it did before but this is good.
>>2772016You got to ask, how does nuking Iran solve anything in the US and Israel's long term goals? It just going to create more problems for everyone.
Pakistan is the great negotiator
>>2772037>>2772038HORMUSSY?
CLOSED
TRUMP?
SEETHING
NEGOTIATIONS?
MADE UP
>>2772038>>2772037Okay so did Trump agree to every single one of Iran's demands or is Trump pretending he did the art of the deal to save face (obviously it's the latter). Hopefully he doesn't turn around and accuse Iran of breaking the ceasefire that they definitely negotiated between each other, that would be crazy now wouldn't it haha
Lmao Iran just launched missiles are Israel following Trump's tweet
>>2772038the best way is to just ignore everything trump says. ignore his threats. ignore his tacos. ignore everything. his threats are unreliable and his tacos are also unreliable as he could still attack at any point while claiming taco.
he is a walking lie and paying attention to his words just misleads you and wastes your time.
WHAT HAPPENED, BASED ON CURRENT INFORMATION:
>The U.S. has agreed to stop all attacks against Iran for a period of two weeks.
>In return, Iran will not strike U.S. assets or other targets in the Persian Gulf.
>The Strait of Hormuz remains CLOSED during these two weeks, but if Iran doesn’t open it, the war will resume.
>Israel is NOT part of the ceasefire and Iran will continue targeting it.
>>2772057>It just going to create more problems for everyoneThis is true with everything he does. He's insane and I don't know who helped him draft the post but maybe they were able to explain it to him, that nukes aren't a win.
>>2772070>>Israel is NOT part of the ceasefirelol
>>2772064>>2772066They were not amused
>>2772038>>2772037He definitely didn't write this one
>>2772070Iran said it doesn't agree to a ceasefire
>>2772039 >>2772081Art of the SQUEAL
So will Iran open the Hormussy and if they don't, will Trump proceed with the strike?
>>2772065Trump just lied, he’s not talking to Iran. He pussed out. Had Pakistan's PM lie with him about a mad up ceasefire. There’s zero reason to believe anything trump says. He’s fucked himself into a corner. He should just go back to
>we don’t even use Hormuz, we did this to fuck with Europe cause their loser And just golf the rest of his term and die of a stroke. That’s his only out that doesn’t involve him getting tossed a bronze bull.
>>2772070>>Israel is NOT part of the ceasefire and Iran will continue targeting it.Lmao is america really leaving israel out to dry? that's almost worth unblocking it imo
>>2772081iran will release the art of the Mog.
>>2772079>Iran said it doesn't agree to a ceasefire Yeah they have
>>2772037IRGC needs to send another wave rn
>>2772089Well, we're gonna see if the Straight of KHÄMAS is gonna open up now
>>2772084that seems to be the case
>Trump said that the agreement was “subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz,” meaning that Iran has not yet agreed to conditions. In the past, Iran has insisted it would only open the Strait in return for a complete peace agreement, guaranteeing no further attacks by the U.S. and Israel, but not a cease-fire. >>2772037>>2772038as we all know, the US would never lie about entering into negotiations with Iran only to then start bombing them. you really think a US president would do that? just go on his personal propaganda platform and lie?
>>2772089They havent said anything, in fact theyve revved up their retaliation towards Israel as of right now
>>2772070the most correct assessment is that trump is again negotiating with himself, while drags Pakistan's credibility as mediator to the toilet, to keep markets down, while he does what he pleases.
I'd wait to see tonight, but most importantly, I'd wait to see if he can honk honk his passing-by ship's horn.
BREAKING: ‘Israel will be part of the ceasefire’ – CNN
>>2772094They're getting a few last shots in at Israel for now but Iranian T.V. is saying Trump has agreed to their conditions. Both sides are doing that as a way to save face. I think China is yanking Iran's chain btw…
>>2772092But will Trump just accept them not opening it or will he attack when they don't immediately open it?
>>2772095why did jews decide to be so dripless uygha, their fucking most know hat is just a foreskin in their dome to cope with the one they removed.
>>2772097🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
surely iran won't bite
>>2772070if this has any truth it seems fine for iran. they were only doing retaliatory strikes on the gulf states anyway. they're fine not striking them if they're not being struck. and if the strait remains closed this is what iran wants.
however, iran should not abide by this if the epsteinites start building up forces in kuwait or elsewhere, because then they're just using the time to prepare for an attack and adhering ceases to have any value.
>>2772098yank *this*, you gay retard
>>2772099my guess is they'll pause and see what the situation is like in 2 weeks while negotiating in the meantime
>>2772106>minutesAlright, then.
Feels really odd that Iran suddenly just concedes to becoming a lapdog, what was it all for then
So. How does it feel to get #raped by fizzlechads again happeningsisters?
>>2772112Nothing. Unlimited genocide by jews is back on the menu
>>2772003Yes, Pakistan will glass Israel and save the day.
>>2772106its fucking over
>>2772112Romantic notions of national sovereignty are a lie and the US as well as Iran are ruled by capitalist gangsters who really care about securing themselves first and foremost
>no mention of the Strait reopening
>it's literally just a ceasefire that the US will probably violate anyways
>'it's da j00s Iran cucked out nothing ever happens!!1!'
god this place is a fucking sewer why do I still come here
>>2772121True. Dropping nukes sounds bad for *business*
>>2772123>He actually believes Pakistan planned this Lol
>2 more weeks
>>2772129prolly a member of his staff
>>2772106Literally who. Iran has been pretty firm on this position. It’s not negotiating with genocidal fools who will attempt to slaughter them no matter what. This is just another market pump and dump before the clock finishes ticking.
>>2772124It is the Jews tho.
It's been some minutes when is Iran going to respond. I wanna know if NEHGods always win
>>2772085Yeah no shit dude lol
>>2772127sisters… were we wrong about the iranian endsieg?
>>2772132Iran is rolling out a new propaganda line which is that Trump has suffered a crushing defeat and is retreating by agreeing to IRAN's conditions to end the war which has emerged victorious thanks to the blessing of the pure and holy blood of His Eminence Ayatollah al-Uzma Imam Khamanei (pbuh)
>>2772123Israelis and pro-war Persian monarchists are big mad right now. Especially the monarchists. They're like, it's so over, right now.
>Iran accepted Pakistan’s cease-fire proposal following frantic diplomatic efforts by Pakistan and last-minute intervention by China, a key ally, according to three Iranian officials.
t-thanks
>>2772139My god they are raising the mauve flag of victory
STATEMENT BY IRAN’S SUPREME NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL:
‘>The United States has agreed to Iran’s 10-point plan.
>1. Commitment to non-aggression.
>2. Continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz
>3. Acceptance of uranium enrichment
>4. Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions
>5. Termination of all resolutions of the UN Security Council and the IEAE Board of Governors
>6. Payments of compensation for Iran.
>7. Withdrawal of American combat forces from the region.
>8. Cessation of war on all fronts.
>>2772139total iranian victory
>>2772139the US is gonna pull some shit like they did at the start of the war. two more hours
>>2772152Only 50 minutes until deadline
>>2772144Is this not just a complete victory for Iran…. if true?
How is this even a victory?
>>2772141>Iran is rolling out a new propaganda line What propaganda line? Agree to their conditions? Trump is nothing more than a stupid rich bully who murders and rapes. He won’t agree to any terms that don’t save his egotistical view of himself.
>>2772154Art of the Deal!!!!
>>2772154there's no shot USA-Israel will keep to that. they're just blowing smoke up Iran's ass. how can the Iranians not see that?
>>2772144What? Then Iran straight up just won?
Holy shit
>made the US and Israel kneel in less than two months award >>2772160i can see trump conceding the troll toll and calling that "open"
>>2772157jfc eject hasan piker from reality. i'm tired of his stupid face coming up everywhere.
>>2772154As much as a victory for Iran as the ceasefire was a year ago. You'd have to be retarded to believe anything the US and Pissrael say.
>>2772163Iran pushing for all their points to be accepted, the agreement is not yet confirmed, if the US cuck out they will just continue.
>>2772144That's only 8 points.
>>2772144THE AMERICAN SUEZ CRISIS concludes gg everybody
>>2772164Assuming Israel and America abide by it. Which they prolly won't
>>2772164USA-Israel absolutely will not stick to that plan.
>>2772173total materialist vindication, war general circlejerkers will learn nothing
>>2772172They’re not going to accept those gas prices, nor are they willing to lose out on their investments in the region which Iran has been targeting. This “negotiation” is a farce.
>>2772167I think Iran will take it anyway, they cannot destroy the zionist entity, no matter what sort of capeshit you imagine, charging the troll toll, lifting sanctions, and getting the entire gulf in its orbit is an insane turnaround for iran, even if temporary.
>>2772177>Israel supports the ceasefireI think Israel just wants in it
>>2772169hopefully that's true. agreements are just fucking ink. Iran has got to be ready to fire missiles and drones again on short notice
just a reminder again in case you think that USrael isn't a rogue terrorist state that is not to be trusted: THIS WAR STARTED WHEN THE US VIOLATED ITS OWN NEGOTIATIONS
>>2772174iran would just close the strait again. until that leverage is taken away they'll have the upper hand
So who is going to TACO this time? This is the same story that has been happening for weeks. There is no way the US is going to pay a penny to Iran in reparations.
>>2772184They did that twice. And killed Iranian leadership. And have repeatedly shown themselves to be volatile genocidal idiots.
>>2772188>There is no way the US is going to pay a penny to Iran in reparations.iran considers the toll as "reparations"
STRAIT REOPENED (CONDITIONALLY)
>For a period of two weeks, safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz will be possible via coordination with Iran’s Armed Forces and with due consideration of technical limitations," - Abbas Araghchi, Iran's Foreign Minister.
>>2772177Barak Ravid is a trump admin insider. let's see what Channel 12 has to say
>>2772185Everything points to nothing happening
>>2772185>in this day and age of cyber warfare and psyopsits also the day and age of cuck outs and NEH
>>2772186the strait must remain closed. they must impose this as the new reality. they are the toll masters now
>>2772154Trump: “We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate.”
>>2772147Mods, ban Laura Loomer for breaking /isg/ containment.
>>2772193What do you mean by trump insider? From my understanding likud people despise him and he's like a liberal who gets his hands on leaks
>Both sides claiming the war is ending on their terms because saving le economy is most important
Total bourgeoisie victory
this is a huge mistake from Iran. they will regret this.
>>2772186They never opened it again to begin with
>>2772194>>2772195Everything points to farce. They already cut communications hours ago.
>>2772191Trump: causes problem
Victims of the problem: what the fuck?!
defends themselvesTrump: I have reached an agreement to solve the problem that I caused because I am good at the art of the deal
Victims of the problem: We have not made an agreement. We don’t know what he’s talking about
Rinse and repeat forever
>>2772144This a humiliating defeat for the U.S. Iran is now an undisputed global power now. Israel will enter slow collapse without the U.S. trillions and decades of imperialism down the drain. Iran is for sure getting a nuke now, the U.S has to pay them reparations. Which is extra funny because that was the lie trump and the right accused Obamas Iran deal of.
This is the best outcome imo.
TACOCHADS IM SO TIRED OF WINNING
>>2772175Black as the dark night, she was
Got what no one else had
Wow!
>>2772200America is raising the golden flag of significant discounts
>>2772199yes that's why i think he's not a good source on israeli public opinion. israel acquiesced but likud prolly seething rn
>>2772203>quietly dropped any mention of a tollPack it up folks, sounds like the Burger wins again
>>2772206>This a humiliating defeat for the U.SWhich is why none of this is actually happening. It’s just another market pump. Trump won’t ever go for that.
>>2772206>Which is extra funny because that was the lie trump and the right accused Obamas Iran deal of. it was even stupider. they kept pretending unfreezing iran's stolen assets in exchange for them letting the IAEA in was the same as giving them free money for no reason.
>>2772205wouldn't congress have to lift sanctions?
Welp, see everyone in 2 days when pissrael breaks the ceasefire
>>2772213congress is useless. they cant do shit
>>2772210one point of the 10 point proposal was literally no more temporary ceasefires lol
>>2772203>you have to coordinate with Iran's Armed Forces Iran still controls it.
I don't wanna die in a global nuclear holocaust I still haven't sex yet
>>2772220take bourgeois booty anon.
>>2772220none of those things are happening anyway
Reminder prediction from early March:
- ceasefire by April 15
- zero American or Israeli officials killed
:-)
The first week was great, but then I knew what to expect the moment China and Russia got involved. Suddenly the reciprocal retaliation came to a halt (desalination plants, etc.) and my Twitter feed became Bahrain this, Bahrain that.
>>2772216Explain to a retard how have US presidents gotten away with not declaring a war through proper channels all these years?
In a world where nothing ever happens…
BREAKING: An Ansarullah ballistic missile launch from Yemen towards Israel.
Houthis say no ceasefire
>>2772215the way it's being reported, and araghchi himself posting the statement, it doesn't seem like a typical jawbone. if it is indeed a jawbone, i'll honestly will have to give trump credit because this is the most insane jawbone so far
>>2772220speak for yourself
>>2772197>Trump: “We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate.”Trump is salivating rn at how gullible world leaders are to take the US word for anything.
So who is cucking who? I am confused
>Get Houthis and Hezbollah into trouble when you attack
>Immediately cuck out when they decide to help you resist Pissrael
Cool
>>2772157Democrats Summer Lee and Abdul El-Sayed are campaigning alongside Hasan Piker, who claims "the sky is blue" and "burger taste good"
>>2772239Give it a day or week, when news are just coming out theres lots of psyops and its difficult to know what the fuck is actually going on.
>>2772239until the enrichment and missile facilities are gone the biggest cuck will always be israel followed closely by the US
>>2772212Which trump will have to do when he lifts the sanctions and then pay them on top of it. That’s if this is true and not another lie
>>2772211Im gonna huff some hopium on this one. I have to believe there’s enough people in enough human institutions invested in making the world doesn’t blow up.
>>2772239Iranians have confirmed this time that they're letting the pressure off.
They weren't serious, which is why they didn't touch a single Israeli leader or desalination plant.
>…this does not mean the end of the war. Iran will only [end the war when the 10-article plan is finalised in negotiation]
>These negotiations will begin with complete distrust on Friday, April 10, in Islamabad, and Iran will allocate two weeks for these negotiations.https://xcancel.com/AryJeay/status/2041657226503279031#mSo does this mean ceasefire from 10 April to 24 April?
Do we see any new hardware being moved forward to the West Asia region? This would be clearest tell that the ceasefire is another US perfidy
real hypernormalization hours right now watching everyone flail around trying to figure out what the lying rogue terrorist state meant by all the conflicting messaging it's putting out instead of simply opting for the most cynical possible interpretation of what's going on
>>2772239Literally no one
BREAKING: Iranian ballistic missile launch towards southern Israel.
Getting in some last shots?
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
NEW ISRAEL POLL OF AMERICANS BY PEW RESEARCH
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/04/07/negative-views-of-israel-netanyahu-continue-to-rise-among-americans-especially-young-people/>>2772235It would be too expensive to rebuild the bases that were destroyed so might as well close them. Israel took a beating they didn't expect and ran out of interceptors. They tried to steal uranium and lost several aircraft for nothing. Long story short, all Iran had to do to win was survive but they came out better than expected.
>>2772249The 10-point plan is nothing more than an excuse to play "fell for it again." Trump can't believe his luck right now.
>>2772173Key point missing:
>US hegemony will continue to decline>the international bourgeoisie will become more fractured>the third world will industrialize and proletarianize >the Western labour aristocracy will be weakened Once again you mfs fail to understand why people are sympathetic to Iran in the first place. I've never heard a non-strawman argument from you people.
>>2772260it's because everyone on this site is either a fed, a bot, or a mentally ill NEET troll who compulsively engages in bad faith arguments on a dying imageboard
>>2772261"trust us bro" - country that killed the Pope of Islam day one after lying about intending to enter into negotiations
>>2772261They're just fucking dumb. I'm sorry, but it's true. Even the Russians who shine Trump's cock and who refuse a ceasefire without a permanent solution aren't this dumb.
>>2772255>last shots?Why would those be the last ones?
>>2772261A lot of posters in this thread don't know I wrote the word "gullible" on their ceilings.
>>2772211The U.S. hasn't actually accepted those points. Iran will use those points as the basis for their demands during negotiations during the ceasefire which is 2 weeks.
I think they'll probably find a way to extend that. That's just my guess though. I think Trump wants to move on and this was always supposed to be a few weeks. Seymour Hersh reported last year they were going to do a few weeks of bombing in the spring following on from the shorter war last June. The U.S. limited its "objectives" and Israel doesn't like it (although they'll go along with it) because they want the U.S. to topple da "regime" but that's not going to happen. The Iranian monarchists are in absolute fucking shambles and will fall into a copehole (such as they do) and cry that Trump has betrayed them. Iran will also declare victory and it is a win for them if your victory condition is survival.
>>2772229It's called "the imperial presidency," but I think the short version is that traditionally the U.S. didn't have much of a standing army, so the president would go to Congress to get funding and a declaration of war to raise an army, and then after World War II the U.S. turned into a global empire with a permanent standing army stationed all over the place. So the old way of doing that didn't really make a lot of sense, and that got out of control in Vietnam so Congress passed a law called the War Powers Resolution, which requires the president notify Congress if U.S. forces are used in hostilities, and pull back within 60 days unless Congress authorizes it. But that gives the president a lot of room to just unilaterally start bombing.
>>2772251Yeah.
>>2772265>"trust us bro" - country that killed the Pope of Islam day one after lying about intending to enter into negotiationsThis. Only hope is that the IRGC gets rid of the gullible, traitorous bastards, but given that they've been in on the restraint, doubtful.
>>2772270Because they shot them before the ceasefire probably
>>2772261What on earth do you guys expect Iran to do? Yes they are doing relatively well but they are the defender in this war, they cannot strike America and can't actually land a killing blow on Israel. They have done amazingly to actually get this agreement, even if the USA only sticks to half the points.
>>2772271i looked up and found nothing, you scoundrel
So Iran will be allowed to freely charge the troll toll?
>millennials heads exploding cuz america lost for the first time in their lives
>>2772269Iran must demand that Israel accept a permanent delegation of Iranian inspectors is planted in all major cities of Israel who conduct periodic inspections of civilian and military infrastructure in order to verify that the USA is not building up their presence again and that Israel are not developing apocalyptic weapons to threaten them and the world
>>2772278Day of the pillow can't come soon enough
anyone have that clip of the soldier saying they were basically just armed guards and that he never went to college but the guy recording him who did should know that
>>2772255seems the source for this is literally the israeli military, i don't think they're interested in the ceasefire, they might simply be accusing iran of breaking it
>>2772283What war have burgers "won" in the last century?
>>2772276They were doing fine in the first week, but then the restraint cucking started. My Twitter went from actual happenings with targets named to… fireworks displays with no targets named, fake news about captured soldiers that even people here gave a pass to because "morale" and "important psyops," and MUH BAHRAIN.
Notice that despite multiple assassinations, including of their spiritual leaders, the Iranians won't even touch the Knesset out of session.
There was also lack of reciprocation against desalination plants.
Iran must demand to become a member of the UN security council
>>2772223Nothingeverhappeners should really be individually raped and skinned this year
>>2772301Nothing happened.
>>2772301NEHcels when something happens (getting raped and skinned alive)
>>2772269>An Israeli source>>2772273>The U.S. hasn't actually accepted those points. >Iran will use those points as the basis for their demands during negotiations during the ceasefire which is 2 weeks.Iran has made itself particularly clear on how it feels on negotiations
>Iranian monarchists are in absolute fucking shambles and will fall into a copehole (such as they do) and cry that Trump has betrayed them.Yeah, this is cope
>>2772275>Because they shot them before the ceasefire probablyOr there is no ceasefire whatsoever
>>2772256Lol. Material explanation for republican stupidity?
>>2772255Yeah. Also Iran's missiles units might not have received orders yet because they operate in a compartmentalized structure, so the Iranian army has to get into contact with their units.
>>2772291Crippled all of South America economically and getting everything they want and more in Venezuela and Argentina
Stuff only "happens" against US/Israel enemies.
Oil didn't even hit the $140 of the COVID days lmao.
Not a single US/Israel official killed.
Not a single attack on the American homeland.
>>2772300They hacked his Twitter, it's fake message.
>>2772296You know it's funny that we have a "ceasefire", when war was never declared.
I'm going to wait for today to expire before I believe THIS time US is telling the truth.
>>2772309>Oil didn't even hit the $140 of the COVID days lmao.oil futures didn't but oil did hit the 140 mark
>>2772239>>2772273I’m thinking trump will claim victory. Agree to pulling out of the region. Say
>I’m ending the forever wars folks!There’s no way the U.S can continue to escalate the war in any way that doesn’t just fuck over everyone but Iran. They can’t force Iran to stop charging a toll or negotiate with the other gulf countries. They won’t be able to stop Iran from building a nuke. We still haven’t gotten the real casualty numbers from this war, there’s no surviving the current economic and political fallout out.
>>2772273The current moment is the last chance for an off-ramp before things get actually damaging, so not too surprising. The question is if Iran is actually in a strong enough position to get concessions. Even sanctions relief and uranium enrichment would be huge, but Israel will likely to everything they possibly can to sabotage negotiations, unless they are distracted with hezbollah maybe.
>>2772312The Iranians have confirmed the ceasefire. If you mean the US won't adhere to it, yes, no kidding, which is why it's fucking stupid to give them a reprieve. I didn't think there could be a bigger meddler in anti-imperialist action than Putin, but the Pakis have really taken the piss this time.
What other Twitter accounts like War Monitor are covering the war?
>>2772317it's not an official account, come on lad.
It's hard for me to believe that the US actually intends to give in to any of Iran's demands in any appreciable way. Imo this is just a two week breather for the US to ship in more weapons and continue the fight.
>>2772318when is this stupid cunt gonna get stabbed metaphorically
>>2772260>the third world will industrialize AmeriKKKa will never allow the 3rd world to be anything more than resource extraction colonies.
Ch¥na won't allow anyone else to be the industrial/manufacturing hub of the world.
The rest of your posts were already happening even before the war.
>>2772318Please stop posting this bitch, I lose autism score points every time I see her face.
10 more minutes
big mistake from Iran. huge mistake. this will go very badly for them.
10 minutes
>>2772327Trump is giddy with excitement that they're falling for US promises again.
>>2772329that anon has a crush on her
>>2772324But this is official? This is verfied?
>>2772319>>2772319 >>2772324It is an official account, retard. Elon removed all checkmarks from Iranian accounts weeks ago.
8 mintues
>>2772314Forgot to add, my hopeful prediction is
<iran drops their request for war reparations and agrees to no nuke for like a period of 5 years<they get everything else they wanted and the U.S pulls out of the Middle East and Iran builds a nuke anyway. >>2772319so what are the conditions for passage during the 2-week period? What does
>coordination with Iran's armed forcesmean? If there's no toll for the 2-week period then yeah, Trump won
>>2772336https://xcancel.com/IranEmbassyLBthat's the official account you fucking monkey
>>2772325>Imo this is just a two week breather for the US to ship in more weapons and continue the fight.That means it's stupid to give them the breather.
thats a lot better result than mass slaughter of civilian, global economic crisis and destruction of valuable infrastructures, even if we dont get immediate collapse of the west in the bargain, it make sense for iran which can def claim to have won this one
I'm guessing the reparations will be the tolls, there will be complete lift of sanctions, an allowed civilian nuclear program under watch of IAEA, stop of the lebanon invasion, a pinky promise of no more attacks, but the US will refuse to fuck off from the region
trump will falsely claim to have achieved his objectives, iran will say they managed to defeat the US and zionist and impose a new reality (and can cash in the tolls to prove it), everyone will see the empire can be resisted with enough economic leverage and underground drones stocks
well it was an interesting happening. Hopefully the shooting has definitely stopped and trump dont fuck it up again (Im guessing he and the porkies got scared enough things will now wind down)
>>2772340trump wins when the uranium and missile factories are blowd up. that was the whole point of this excursion
>>2772340>If there's no toll for the 2-week period then yeah, Trump wonWhy are you under impression that there is no toll?
>>2772347it's not explicitly stated
>>2772321amerikanets, quds news network, bonzerbarry, from what i'm seeing in my TL
>>2772325In 2 weeks Iran can also dig out missiles and such and continue to work on nuke perhaps (last part obviously is hopium but who knows).
>>2772296its funny they've been so fucked by iran they had to declare an unplanned unilateral ceasefire to try to deescalate
>>2772352so why are they doing it?
>>2772335yes that's official because it's been reproduced by every journo under the sun ever. i know it's hard to tell between real news and a meme account, you know, if you eat crayons, so you'll have to trust me on this one.
>>2772343After Araghchi's confirmation of the ceasefire / negotiation charade, it really does look like the Iranians weren't being entirely truthful when they said no diplo-cucking was occurring.
>This is not a final agreement, as there are many issues on which the two sides are very far from agreement. But this interim agreement, which concerns a cessation of fighting, the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, and the entry into accelerated negotiations, is a dramatic step on the way to a permanent agreement.
>One of the issues discussed by the parties involved in the negotiations was the question of the major flare-up that broke out again between Israel and Hezbollah, after the Lebanese terrorist organization opened fire on Israel under pressure from the Revolutionary Guards. Israel responded forcefully against Hezbollah's terrorist infrastructure.
>On this issue, it was agreed, as mentioned, that the ceasefire would also apply to the Lebanese arena. In other words, when Iran opens the Strait of Hormuz, Israel and Hezbollah will lay down their weapons.https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/rk0oxzmh11x >>2772229i guess they never had a plan for a scenario where a dude simply refuses to follow decorum
trump always gets away with it because the liberal order expects you to follow the rules, but if you dont they short circuit and walk in circles confused
>>2772360also middle east observer, i'll reply to you if i come up with more lol
>>2772292 (me)
Typical "both sides declare victory" stuff. My bets are on the "axis of resistance" cucking out to the super power, though. With Trump buffooning for comic relief.
>A statement from the Supreme National Security Council regarding the US's acceptance of Iran's conditions was published.
>According to Tasnim News Agency, the Supreme National Security Council issued a statement regarding the US's acceptance of Iran's conditions.
>The text of this statement is as follows:
>The enemy has suffered an undeniable, historic and crushing defeat in its cowardly, illegal and criminal war against the Iranian nation. Thanks to the pure and innocent blood of the martyred leader of the Islamic Revolution, His Highness the Ayatollah Imam Khamenei (peace be upon him), the measures of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces, His Highness the Ayatollah Seyyed Mujtaba Khamenei (may God protect him), the struggle and bravery of the warriors of Islam on the fronts, and especially, the historic, lasting and epic presence of you, the dear nation, on the scene from the very first days of the war, Iran achieved a great victory and forced the criminal America to accept its 10-point plan, in which the United States is committed in principle to guaranteeing non-aggression, continuing Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz, accepting enrichment, lifting all primary and secondary sanctions, terminating all resolutions of the Security Council and the Board of Governors, paying Iran compensation, withdrawing American combat forces from the region and stopping the war on all fronts, including against the heroic Lebanese Islamic resistance. We congratulate all the people of Iran on this victory and emphasize that until the details of this victory are finalized, there is still a need for perseverance and prudence on the part of the authorities and for maintaining the unity and solidarity of the Iranian people.
>Islamic Iran, together with the brave resistance fighters in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and occupied Palestine, has dealt blows to the enemy in the past 40 days that the historical memory of the world will never forget. Iran and the axis of resistance, as representatives of honor and humanity against the most savage enemies of humanity, have taught them an unforgettable lesson after a historic battle and have crushed their forces, facilities, infrastructure and all their political, economic, technological and military capital to such an extent that the enemy has now fallen into decay and despair and sees no other way than surrendering to the will of the great Iranian nation and the noble axis of resistance before it. On the first day that Iran's criminal enemies began this cruel war, they thought that they would achieve complete military dominance over Iran in a short time and, by creating political and social instability, would surrender Iran. They thought that Iran's missile and drone fire would quickly die down and they did not believe that Iran could give them such a powerful response beyond its borders and across the entire region. The evil global Zionism had convinced the ignorant American president that this war would finish Iran and that by eliminating this last bastion of humanity, they could now easily commit any crime against anyone they wanted. They dreamed of dividing dear Iran, plundering its oil and wealth, and ultimately plunging and abandoning the Iranians in the midst of chaos, instability, and insecurity for many years. The brave warriors of Islam and their brave allies in the axis of resistance, despite their hearts being wounded and torn to pieces by the martyrdom of their Imam, relied on God Almighty and the Lord and Master of Martyrs, and decided to teach these enemies a historical lesson once and for all, take revenge on them for all their previous crimes, and create conditions in which the enemy would forever banish the idea of aggression against dear Iran and fully taste the taste of humiliation and humiliation in front of the great Iranian nation.
>With this strategy and relying on the unprecedented political and social unity that had been created in the country, Iran and the resistance began one of the heaviest combined battles in history with America and the Zionist regime, and during this time they achieved all the goals they had planned for this battle. Iran and the resistance almost completely destroyed the American military machine in the region, dealt crushing and deep blows to the mass of infrastructure and facilities that the enemy had built and deployed in the region over the years for this war with Iran, inflicted massive casualties on the criminal American army on a regional scale, inflicted devastating and crushing blows on the enemy's forces, infrastructure, facilities, and assets inside the occupied territories, and narrowed the field on all fronts to the enemy to such an extent that not only were none of the enemy's main goals achieved, but the enemy realized about 10 days after the start of the war that it would not be able to win this war in any way, and for this reason, it began trying to communicate with Iran through various channels and methods and request a ceasefire.
>The noble nation of Iran should know that thanks to the struggle of its children and their historical presence on the scene, the enemy has been begging for more than a month to stop the fierce fire of Iran and the resistance, but the country's officials, because it was decided from the very beginning that the war would continue until the goals were achieved, including the enemy's regret and despair and the removal of the long-term threat to the country, responded negatively to all these requests, and the war has continued until today, which is the fortieth day. Iran has also rejected the deadlines presented by the US President several times and continues to emphasize that it does not attach any importance to any kind of deadline from the enemy.
>We now give the great nation of Iran the good news that almost all the objectives of the war have been achieved and your brave sons have brought the enemy to a historic impotence and a lasting defeat. Iran's historic decision, which enjoys the unified support of the entire nation, is to continue this battle for as long as necessary until its great achievements are consolidated and new security and political equations are created in the region based on the acceptance of Iran's power and sovereignty and the resistance.
> In this regard, and in accordance with the advice of the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Seyyed Mojtaba Khamenei (may God protect him) and the approval of the Supreme National Security Council, and considering Iran's upper hand and resistance on the battlefield, and the enemy's inability to carry out its threats despite all claims, and the official acceptance of all the legitimate demands of the Iranian people, it was decided to hold negotiations in Islamabad to finalize the details so that within a maximum of 15 days, with the finalization of the details of Iran's victory on the battlefield, it can also be consolidated in political negotiations.
>In this regard, Iran, while rejecting all the plans presented by the enemy, formulated a 10-point plan and presented it to the American side through Pakistan, emphasizing the fundamental points such as controlled passage through the Strait of Hormuz in coordination with the Iranian armed forces, which would grant Iran a unique economic and geopolitical position, the necessity of ending the war against all elements of the axis of resistance, which would mean the historic defeat of the aggression of the child-killing Israeli regime, the withdrawal of US combat forces from all bases and deployment points in the region, the establishment of a safe transit protocol in the Strait of Hormuz in a way that guarantees Iran's dominance according to the agreed protocol, full payment of Iran's damages according to estimates, the lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions and resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council, the release of all of Iran's frozen assets abroad, and finally the ratification of all of these matters in a binding Security Council resolution. It should be noted that the ratification of this resolution would turn all of these agreements into binding international law and would create an important diplomatic victory for the Iranian nation.
>Now, the Honorable Prime Minister of Pakistan has informed Iran that the American side, despite all the apparent threats, has accepted these principles as the basis for negotiations and has surrendered to the will of the Iranian people. Accordingly, it was decided at the highest level that Iran will hold talks with the American side in Islamabad for two weeks and solely on the basis of these principles. It is emphasized that this does not mean an end to the war and Iran will accept an end to the war only when, in view of Iran's acceptance of the principles envisaged in the 10-point plan, its details are also finalized in the negotiations.These negotiations will begin in Islamabad on Friday, April 11, with complete distrust of the American side, and Iran will allocate two weeks for these negotiations. This period can be extended by agreement of the parties. It is necessary to maintain complete national unity during this period and to continue the victory celebrations with strength. The current negotiations are national negotiations and a continuation of the field, and it is necessary for all people, elites, and political groups to trust and support this process, which is under the supervision of the revolutionary leaders and the highest levels of the system, and to strictly avoid any divisive statements. If the surrender of the enemy in the field becomes a decisive political achievement in the negotiations, we will celebrate this great historical victory together, otherwise we will fight side by side in the field until all the demands of the Iranian nation are achieved. Our hands are on the trigger, and as soon as the slightest mistake by the enemy is made, it will be responded to with full force.
>Supreme National Security Council >, 19 Farvardin 1405
>End of message/ >>2772334That anon has metal damage liking Jigsaw. But then again, her soul is 1000x uglier than her face.
>Imagine getting dick wet from genocidal pussy<plox don't >>2772347Iran would almost certainly be better off with sanctions relief than the hormuz toll
>>2772348It says Trump has adopted the 10 point framework and the 10 point framework includes the tolls.
>>2772361Iran must not cede an inch on any point of the agreement. The should have demanded more but alas.
>>2772356>yes that's officialReally? An offical statement from the iranian government? Who already cut off communications? How curious.
>>2772342Yeah, I'd agree with you I think, but we don't really know everything going on behind the scenes yet, and it's not like Iran couldn't use a reprieve either.
But I don't know. At this point the US have repeatedly proven themselves to be untrustworthy. Without immediate, major concessions I can't see how Iran could buy this.
Also, is the war on Gaza included in their non-hostilities point, or does Israel get to keep committing genocide as a treat?
Doubles and it was another fake negotiation.
Nuke drop in 1 minute.
>>2772365KKKamala would never
>>2772368iran walks away stronger here if thats the case. they win if they dont lose, and the US loses if they dont win
its too early to tell, but during the iran-iraq war the iranians made a mistake getting too cocky and had to sign a worse deal when they dragged the conflict out. at the end the iraqis regained strength, the iranian offensive got broken and the generals said they would not be able to recover until 1993. Khomeini signed a ceasefire, and called it drinking a poison chalice. meanwhile had they accepted ceasefire in 82, they could have got a better deal, and suffered less damage. i think there are probably some in the iranian leadership who recall this episode, and affects their descision making to go with a ceasefire.
LET'S GO PUSH THE BUTTON DONNIE
Iran should procure a couple of DPRK warheads ASAP
TO KILL
THE UNBORN IN THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMB
>>2772380>>2772383gfto death cultists.
>>2772374The Entity gets latitude to continue forging Greater Israel in Lebanon and in Gaza
Likud and Isr*elis will still see this as a defeat
>>2772229TLDR, after 9/11 congress gave the president the authority to attack the terries anywhere on Earth. So the president has a blank check to attack anyone as long as he says they are terries. That's why they suddenly put Maduro on the terrie list before they grabbed him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF; Pub. L. 107–40 (text) (PDF), 115 Stat. 224) is a joint resolution of the United States Congress which became law on September 18, 2001, authorizing the use of the United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the September 11 attacks. The authorization granted the president the authority to use all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11 attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups. The act has been identified by historians and other scholars as having enabled the War on Terror, allowing the US president to unilaterally launch military operations across the world without any congressional oversight or transparency for more than two decades. Between 2001 and 2026, US forces initiated what it labelled "counter-terror" activities in more than 100 countries. Of these, the 2001 AUMF has been used to launch classified military campaigns in at least 22 countries,[1][2] most notably in Afghanistan, the Philippines, Georgia, Yemen, Djibouti, Kenya, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Iraq, and Somalia.[3]
In this case, the AUMF grants power to the President to determine both who to target and what actions to take. The AUMF is different from a declaration of war in that the AUMF is a statutory force authorization, limiting the President's use of full military force, which he would otherwise have in a declaration of war.[4] The AUMF was passed by the 107th Congress on September 14, 2001, and signed into law by President George W. Bush on September 18, 2001.[5] President Bush said "you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" in his joint address to Congress and the American public on September 20, 2001, right after the law was signed.[6]
Since its passage in 2001, U.S. presidents have interpreted their authority under the AUMF to extend beyond al-Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan to apply to numerous other groups as well as other geographic locales, due to the act's omission of any specific area of operations.[7] The adoption of this law does not require the targets to be state actors, but can include non-state actors, such as individual persons.[8] In December 2016, the Office of the President published a brief interpreting the AUMF as providing congressional authorization for the use of force against al-Qaeda and other militant groups.[9][10] Today, the full list of actors the U.S. military is fighting or believes itself authorized to fight under the 2001 AUMF is classified.[11]
The only representative to vote against the authorization in 2001 was Barbara Lee, who has consistently criticized it since for being a blank check giving the government unlimited powers to wage war without debate.[12]
>>2772385history is a chopping block, it's dialectically necessary for Iran to get nuked
So what are the 10 points?
>>2772373if they cut off communications, how is araghchi tweeting lad, are you dumb? do you think a third party like pakistan can't mediate comms from iran's supreme national security council or something. if these news were fake we would instantly know by this point through another official communication, as it has occurred the other 25 times trump tried to jawbone by calling victory on truth social. it's like you're new.
>>2772351Yeah, true. Imo it has its (potential) benefits for Iran, particularly in the wider realm of global opinion, but I think it's too early to conclude anything involving the perfidious yankee.
HOLY SHIT AN ICBM JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Did it happen
brap
Ceasefire is on bois
>>2772382Not even DPRK gave Iran a MAD guarantee to deter USA or Israel
>>2772139This is NOT good, the US will NEVER concede on anything mentioned in practice, this is just a ploy to their part to have time to rebuild their forces, have they not learned ANYTHING from the last decade? I blame perfidious China for this obvious blunder
>>2772379That's a good point.
>>2772374Can't believe they're playing "third time's the charm" with US negotiations before any kind of deterrence has been established. Unteachable. The US didn't take anywhere near enough of an economic hit for deterrence, and not a single counter-assassination occurred (why is that important? because the very reason the US/Israel are so big on assassinations in the first place is that they're projecting their leadership fetishism and assuming other countries will experience the same trauma they'd experience).
buy stonks tmrw for market open
did the ceasefire actually start? my understanding was that it takes effect on the 10th with the negotiations
>>2772396nothing ever really happens
>>2772410We're literally living through things happening
>>2772391>how is araghchi tweeting ladMusk got into his account
all this getting edged for nuclear annihilation is driving me insane >/////<
>>27723512 weeks is not enough time for US and Israel to restock ordinance, so my intuition is that the ceasefire will drag on for months. i dunno if iran will continue charging a toll during ceasefire, it seems no one has clarified that to my knowledge. i find it hard to believe that the US will eat dirt, and then break ceasefire so soon, they'll need to make this one count. undoubtedly iran is in a better geopolitical position now than before the war so I'm not too surprised that they're agreeing to a ceasefire here.
>>2772365maybe the libs were right that he's a KGB agent
>>2772407Maybe it's a little early to jump to conclusions.
>>2772139thats a lot better result than mass slaughter of civilian, global economic crisis and destruction of valuable infrastructures, even if we dont get immediate collapse of the west in the bargain, it make sense for iran which can def claim to have won this one
I'm guessing the reparations will be the tolls, there will be complete lift of sanctions, an allowed civilian nuclear program under watch of IAEA, stop of the lebanon invasion, a pinky promise of no more attacks, but the US will refuse to fuck off from the region
trump will falsely claim to have achieved his objectives, iran will say they managed to defeat the US and zionist and impose a new reality (and can cash in the tolls to prove it), everyone will see the empire can be resisted with enough economic leverage and underground drones stocks
well it was an interesting happening. Hopefully the shooting has definitely stopped and trump dont fuck it up again (Im guessing he and the porkies got scared enough things will now wind down)
Just how much I wanted the nukes to fly…..
>>2772156Trump has no power, US Presidents are puppets of the deep state/CIA. Don't give him so much credit; you sound like a liberal.
>>2772405So how does the war actually end? I don't know who benefits more from this dragging on, but is there any realistic way for the US to win without regime change now? As an anon, or many by these point said before, the Iranian leadership have figured out that they can hold the global oil economy hostage. It's their only ace in their sleeve against a militarily more powerful enemy.
>>2772414fr i really thought it was gonna be a decade week for a second
>>2772415Don't worry, the Iranians know that in a few months it'll be close to midterms
So the Democrats will be able to stop Trump from doing this all over again
You can beat the depraved Satanists, then. They'll fuck you up a bit but they are a country absent of solidarity and if you're willing to take some punishment your will will outlast theirs
>>2772365You forgot created a global oil shock that’s going to make renewables cheaper than oil and ended the petro dollar. He even found a way to be an environmentalist on top of it
if anything the US extending a ceasefire, even if it's as part of a ploy, kind of cements its status as a paper tiger.
>>2772314>I’m thinking trump will claim victory. Agree to pulling out of the region. Say<I’m ending the forever wars folks!Yeah exactly. I think the whole strategy here was to do as much damage to Iran as possible before pulling out of the region and handing it off to the Arab kings.
>They can’t force Iran to stop charging a toll or negotiate with the other gulf countries.Well the wild card here is that the money for Iranian oil sales changes hands in UAE (oddly enough!). It runs through the Dubai banking system. So Iran can control the strait but the UAE controls the money.
>>2772417Iranian FM has done a 180 relative to his public comments and confirmed that Iran will be playing the negotiation games, and it shows the Paki role wasn't as meaningless as the Iranians claimed.
Looks like Trump wasn't being entirely untruthful.
Electrical Vehicle sales are up 66% in Germany.
>>2772415>2 weeks is not enough time for US and Israel to restock ordinance, I think it really depends on what kind of ordinance. Yeah, there's no way US production can make up the anti/missiles and smart weapons that have been used, but it is possible they'll scrape up other weapons to continue by other means.
>>2772422>their only ace in their sleeveIran still did not use their Trump card, hitting the de-Stalinisation plants
That would render the region nearly uninhabitable
Probably a major deterrent against the Gulf states using their air forces
>>2772435>euros canadians and mexicans can consume cheap chinese treats but not yanksITS NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2772414Are you a cute goth girl by the way?
>>2772439>hitting the de-Stalinisation plantsPlease hit them trump.
I beg you please.
You must hit them.
>>2772439>de-Stalinisation plantsForgot that one, I guess this is also a huge advantage for them.
>>2772426not only are schumer(rape) and jefferies(rape) are giddy about this, trump will send ICE and other child traffickers to police the polling places during the midterms
>>2772446Desalination plants are overhyped as a target imo. They can be repaired and don't have as much of the explodey stuff inside as oil and natural gas infrastructure.
I thought it would be Putin pressuring Iran to cuck, but looks like the Russian oil oligarchs put a leash on him and it was Pakistan and China who've fucked things up.
does this play-pretend "ceasefire" also includes Palestine or does no one care anymore?
Trump is claiming the statement from the Iranian Supreme Natsec Council is fake
>>2772441who isn't these days
According to liveuamap Israel and Kuwait are still getting hit within the last 15 minutes
>>2772441there are no girls on the internet
>>2772435>>2772440Just think if Bernie won in 2016 and actual delivered. We could have been a cozy social democracy building high speed rail and getting even better and cheaper treats from china. But the chuds had to have one more tantrum.
>>2772457Are you at least a femboy?
Iran better be using that money to restock every bomb they can
>>2772239>de-Stalinisation plantsgemmy post
>>2772458>>2772454Because no ceasefire, only market pump
>>2772433>Iranian FM has done a 180 relative to his public comments and confirmed that Iran will be playing the negotiation games, and it shows the Paki role wasn't as meaningless as the Iranians claimed. Looks like Trump wasn't being entirely untruthful.
Sure, I just mean that it's too early to start crying "they fell for it again!" or whatever. The information we have is really incomplete.
Personally I wonder how much the Iranian imposition of RMB as petrol/toll payments played into this ceasefire. That seems like the sort of thing The Market would really get upset about.
>>2772450Desalination plants can't work without electricity
>>2772464anons have no gender
>>2772458How long does it take for a rocket to shoot from one country to another
>>2772450But wouldn't the time and cost of destroying them be significantly less than repairing them again?
>>2772454what is unc yapping about
I don't care I just him to die of a stroke already on live television
>>2772454This guy is pumping and dumping the markets like epsteins whores
>>2772458something similar happened when last ceasefire started
>>2772415The next step was likely Iranian power plants and infrastructure followed by gulf desalination and US corporate assets in the region. The US could not accept that at this point and it would have also been devastating for Iran. Remember they were prepared to make a pretty unequal deal, worse for Iran than JCPOA, before the war started, so if they get more now then it might be a suez crisis tier loss for the US
>>2772469Even humoring the US as a legitimate negotiating partner is falling for it again. Beyond that, it's strategically stupid. The US takes the willingness to negotiate as a sign of weakness.
>>2772422It doesn't, just like in Ukraine, where it's existential from both sides (NATO/Russia), holding the strait hostage isn't sufficient deterrence when the US can resume the war any moment, this is a Misk agreement moment for Iran
>>2772464>>2772473something something we are legion, forgive and forget, "expect us"
Threatening openai's data centers must have shaken the porkies up
>>2772486I am legend. expecto patronum
>>2772458you think all irgc commanders have their eyes glued to twitter while in the middle of launching missiles? this is an unilateral ceasefire by the US
>>2772476Trump: CNN will be COMPLETELY OBLITERATED by 8:00pm Thursday if they do not DELET THE STORY and ALLOW TRUMP approval of all future stories related to TRUMP prior to publication. TYFYATTM.
>>2772479and shit his pants
>>2772429if we tried doing half of what he managed to accomplish, there actually would have been a coup
could you imagine a social democrat, even one that would have the desire to (which they wouldn't obviously) purging that many generals from the military with no repercussions?
it's easy to say this in the imperial core and I'd much rather have had this never happen, but if by some miracle this holds, based retard strikes again
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>>2772454>>2772479Unc is being fraudulent at the moment
>>2772476Kamala is hot. She should've been president
>>2772146based. maybe now i can afford gas and groceries. almost every time i make a change and get on top of finances trump increases my fucking costs by 20%
>>2772454I'm too ESL and tired for this. What is he even saying here
trumpie trumpie
yes bibi
manipulating markets?
no bibi
telling lies?
no bibi
open your bussy
hahaha
BIG: Over the last hour, IRGC has suddenly ramped up its attacks and is striking escalatory targets in Israel and other countries. It may be ignoring what the foreign minister and other civilian cucks said. Absolutely based if true.
What appears to have happened is that the civilian government really was trying to cuck-negotiate via Pakistan and has lied about it taking place because it knew the IRGC wouldn't stand for it.
people really believed nukes were going to be used kek you guys never learn
I heard top Israeli officials were fleeing to Argentina.
>>2772505Something something the failing CNN the lying CNN something something shit nobody cares about
I think it would be extremely funny if he got shot in the face on live television in the middle of him yapping about his stupid FUCKING ballroom and other shit NO ONE gives a shit about
I want to note, this is not saying that it should happen and not a call to action, this is comedic hypothetical I love free speech I love free speech
the Iranian foreign minister is way too pussy. kick him out. put a hardliner in there. Iran must accomplish AT LEAST expelling all USA presence from the region (including of course in Israel). FOR IT'S OWN GOOD. in order to secure it's continued existence.
>>2772510that would be insane, but the ceasefire is not in effect yet
>>2772515disavowing and condemning this post btw
>>2772511same uyghas who said there would be a war with Iran
LMAO remember nothing is happening right now hail israel
>>2772503It’s already rising since the last tweet
>>2772523fml. i find cheaper meals and they just increase to old price
>>2772516Yeah, he spent weeks calling the behind-the-scenes diplomatic efforts fake news and then appears to have decided that today is a safe time to unveil his cuck hand, probably thinking the Iranian anger has fizzled.
>>2772520war is inevitable, nukes will never be used again tho
>hail israelmeds
>>2772483>Even humoring the US as a legitimate negotiating partner is falling for it again. Then there's no point in not accepting the "ceasefire" anyway because it doesn't really affect reality. It's just a pure propaganda win for Iran right now because whatever happens next will come irrespective of participation in or abstention from negotiations.
>Beyond that, it's strategically stupid. The US takes the willingness to negotiate as a sign of weakness.But threatening to wipe out Iran only to back out at the 11th hour while officially acquiescing to all Iranian demands, that conveys strength huh?
I don't think it really matters because the US assumes everyone but them is acting from a position of weakness or inferiority. They started the conflict with Russia believing Russia would collapse in a matter of weeks. This stage of the conflict with Iran started with the belief Iran would fall apart within days.
The beliefs and understanding of the people making these decisions have nothing to do with the actual reality on the ground. They're the product of think tanks, lobbyists, and ideologically motivated actors that have shown time and time again that they don't base their actions on the real world or any understanding of the peoples and circumstances in it. They would never admit Iran was in a position of strength even if that was objectively the case, because even so these actors behind this conflict need Iran to be attacked and hopefully destroyed regardless.
>>2772530Can't wait to hear how this is actually an ebin win for the US
>>2772531>Then there's no point in not accepting the "ceasefire" anywayThey want to display complete rejection of the united states and Israel. So there is in fact a point to it.
>>2772531The timing is dumb. That FM is obviously cut from the same suspicious cloth as Pez. By releasing such a statement today of all times, it's letting Trump position his empty threats as working. Anyone whom Israel doesn't try to target should be looked upon with suspicion, if not as traitors then at least as ineffective appeasers.
>>2772536>considering the 10 point proposalholy shit the US might cuck out here. is this the 21st centurys russo japanese war?
>>2772534They're definitely the spawn of one particular person if those little potato heads are anything to go by.
>>2772540we were robbed of four years of hyenaposting smh
>>2772534The Duggar shit has made me suspicious of large right wing whitoid families
>>2772527Imagine using twitter for a psyop with Musk's help. Is IRGC glued to their phones or something? It's not like they would lower their guard, because of twitter posts.
>>2772436>I think it really depends on what kind of ordinance.it'll need to be long range stuff, because iran has pretty much dismantled all the bases surrounding it. this is why it's ludicrous to break the ceasefire in two weeks, the US wins nothing, israel will still be exposed because air defense can't be replenished in 2 weeks, none of the gas or oil facilities will restart in 2 weeks, so it's not even good as a means to replenish oil or quell the crisis. are people here really finding it hard to believe that the US has had its most humiliating defeat in its history?
>>2772540In the conflict between sex and violence, insecure men take violence.
I think kamala would actually appreciate it.
>>2772541No, we'd have to have a carrier group or two at the bottom of the Persian Gulf in order for this to be on that level. This would be more analogous to the Suez Crisis.
midkirkuinely why do any of you think the US is going to agree to these terms when it would be an unconditionally humiliating defeat
>>2772536In Iran they would've forced him to be a cute ladyboy instead of a closeted homosexual taking out his repression against the world
Lindsey Graham is so fucking rapable
>>2772541It actually might be, I can't believe the madlads did it. I actually was reading a bit about that war today and kinda hilariously the Japanese population was rather pissed their government accepted terms that to them were pretty squalid, so they rioted pretty hard. Apparently the Japanese government had to deal pretty often with their population being extremely hawkish about war and gave in to them regularly.
>>2772527I only heard of hte ceasfire on here so I'm choosing to not trust it
you know, like every israeli ceasefire
>>2772541Trump is happy to tell his marks what they want to hear. His con artistry isn't even sophisticated, which is why I've lost all respect for world markets and world leaders.
>>2772540Fun fact:
Hyena females have penises
>>2772561Hyenas are woke?!
>>2772561They have giant clit pseudo penises
why else do you think I jerk off to them?
>>2772558Stop posting this freak.
>>2772516idk i think its good that us capitulated and poor countries wont starve to death from lack of fertilizer. really expected the imperialists to burn it all down out of spite
like people saying $400 barrel oil were right which would just mean no power no agriculture in like half the countries in the world and first world in rolling blackouts with only top 10% of their pop able to afford rice and beans
>>2772541i think someone finally got through to whoever is in charge to explain exactly how much iran had the world economy in their grasp, which also isn't something that changes w the ceasefire. big moment
>>2772551>midkirkuinelylolw. idk why this shit is so funny
>>2772558Whites love to say that every other race has lying embedded in their soul
>>2772516He didn't cuck, Iran won.
>>2772554Japan has a long weird history of plots and assassination attempts and secret societies that thought the government weren't epic war chungas enough
One of them was a weird buddhist sect too
Total Israeli crash-out on all channels right now btw.
>>2772574pics or didnt happen
>>2772574I sense an unhappy future for the entity. Not sure how many more times they will manage to drag their cuck allies into another unjustified war
>>2772574a likud coalition insider told AP that bibi is pissed lol
>>2772581Not according to her.
>>2772580
Women can also be racist Nazis anon.
>>2772582What exactly is going on in Iraq right now? Has the US puppet government lost control?
>>2772583bibi its time
release the video of trump diddling kids
he has betrayed you
>>2772572The FM cucked, but the IRGC may not have. America has felt barely any pain. Oil needed to stick around $150-$200 for at least half a year to establish deterrence.
>>2772548>it'll need to be long range stuff, because iran has pretty much dismantled all the bases surrounding it. this is why it's ludicrous to break the ceasefire in two weeks, the US wins nothing, israel will still be exposed because air defense can't be replenished in 2 weeks, none of the gas or oil facilities will restart in 2 weeks, so it's not even good as a means to replenish oil or quell the crisisJust because it's a bad idea doesn't mean that the US won't do it. We're right in the middle of exactly what a lot of experts were predicting would happen before this war even began, but here we are.
>are people here really finding it hard to believe that the US has had its most humiliating defeat in its history?I'm certainly not saying that, so maybe take a chill pill?
In fact I'd say that the fact the US
is facing the prospect of a historical defeat is even more motivation to continue the war by other means. Lile, regardless of the propaganda, the facts are that the US and its allies got their shit rocked hard and have absolutely nothing to show for it. Iran's ten points aren't even the half of it, because the political and economic fallout that's going to come from this can't even begin to be estimated at this point.
And let's be real, the US has a long history of throwing good money after bad. It's entirely within the character of the US gov to double down for any number of reasons. There are officials in the gov RIGHT NOW that think they should still be fighting in Vietnam. The writing on the wall doesn't mean anything if you don't bother to read it.
>>2772587The Iraqi Communist Party has seized power.
>>2772471Sure but Ukraine has been getting pounded for years by Russia and they still have electricity (in parts). I don't think it's really worth it compared to going after oil and gas because that stuff explodes when hit.
>>2772475Sure. With drones. People are thinking Iran can hit the desalination plants and everyone will run out of water though, but I don't think that's very likely. If Iran disabled one plant by really hammering it (they're huge BTW), the UAE has others, and then they repair the first plant. Also they wouldn't run out of water immediately anyways, and they get more water from groundwater (by a hair, they still get a lot from the plants). It'd be a problem but the system is designed for redundancy, it's just overhyped as a one-shot doomsday war thing and people are just saying it because they've heard other people saying it, but they haven't really looked into it.
>>2772516Bro Iran is gonna get a shitton of income now which they can use to rebuild and expand their military and grow their influence. They have more power now than they did before. They've cemented their sphere of influence in the region. Israel and the US lost badly. Their only recourse will be to attack again which they probably will within the next few months.
so who fucked out?
Fuck this cuckfire.
In the spirit of Agent Z (Zelensky), I can't believe I'm now forced to root for Agent B (Bibi).
>>2772558When this bitch getting Pam Bondi'd?
>>2772596Jewish supremacist on suicide watch
>>2772558At least this is making the soulless goblin mossad agent seethe hard
>>2772598as well as the now established threat that Iran can close the strait and fuck everyone over at any time
Insanely bad for the US and Israel long-term, they won't accept this
Israel is 100% already plotting another attack
>>2772603You're complaining about ebil whites now it's Jewish supremacists. Moshe, this is embarrassing for you.
>>2772598so trump changed the status quo in favor of iran for no reason…clown imperialism strikes again
>>2772591>Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean that the US won't do it.meaningless from the point of view of iran, maybe they decide to break the ceasfire, then that means the war resumes pretty much as it is today, same pressure on trump, same depleted air defense and ordinance, stocks crash harder and trump has no means of bringing them back up.
>>2772595they won't get shit. USA-Israel's word is worth less than shit.
>>2772594>People are thinking Iran can hit the desalination plants and everyone will run out of water though, but I don't think that's very likely.Kuwait's energy/desalinization plant got hit a few days ago didn't it? What's going on there?
>>2772576Jews are white
>>2772584She eats dogfood and is wrong about a lot of things
>>2772611Yah, many of us were expecting Russia to do the cuckening, but the big player was Pakistan with an assist from China.
>>2772607kill yourself nazi
>>2772615Good luck with the foreskin restoration, Moshe. Keep your mouth away from mine. Thanks.
>>2772584She also tries to fuck neonazis
>>2772607>ebil whitesWhy so offended?
>>2772619Why do you want my foreskin?
>>2772598there's no way the US is going to stick to this.
>>2772608Trump is the best agent a multipolarista could dream of
>>2772610I mean… they're getting the income, without question, until Israel attacks again. Unless they attack literally tomorrow then Iran is gonna get that money.
>>2772624Okay Moshe sure thing
now he can focus on Cuba, great
>>2772616If Xi ever makes a move on Taiwan, he truly deserves to be hounded daily by Pakistan, India, Russia, etc., on negotiating with America.
>>2772625Jewish supremacist on suicide watch
>>2772617i'm just saying that a 2 weeks pause is not a meaningful advantage at all. i'm not even saying you're wrong.
>>2772616How affected was China by the strait closing? I know a lot of Asia got fucked over because of how much oil they get from there, massive price spike and long lines.
>>2772618>>2772621>you're insulting my zionist queen?>YOU MUST BE JEWISH!Faggot
Go call all hispanics mexican and all asians chinese and then whine about them majority of the world viewing jews as white somewhere else
>>2772630Moshe, my foreskin is not for you.
>>2772611The absolute state of dengoid ideology
>>2772612Heard about it but idk, apparently it didn't stop operations so there hasn't been materially disrupted. Kuwait is actually a lot more vulnerable though because they get 90% of their water that way.
>>2772626Forgot about this. He's definitely going to want to lash out at someone, won't he?
>>2772634I know. Your foreskin is for your local rabbie to eat
>>2772639>Local rabbieThats you.
>>2772622There’s nothing the U.S can do about it, they can’t gain control of the strait without an extensive and costly ground invasion. Any country that needs oil will pay the toll. They aren’t going to shut down their society because trump said no.
>>2772622It's even less likely because what that article doesn't mention is that the Iranians want $2M paid in Chinese currency, not USD.
Reminder that 4chan /pol/ was created by Epstein and probably got heavy influence by Peter Thiel the Curtist Yarvin acolyte who grew up in a neonazi town
>>2772640>n-no uLol. Jewish supremacist on suicide watch
>>2772633I don't care, moshe
>>2772638God is into futa. Deal with it.
>>2772632if i were china i would've flexed that diplomatic muscle to secure some brownie points with japan and SK, helps get them away from american orbit
>>2772644>Jew calling everyone else a jewClassic ziopig behavior.
So will these gas prices be the new normal because of the strait fees?
>>2772631Ah, alright. No hard feelings.
>>2772648Your jewish queen is white, shlomo
>>2772622Trump is a narcissist and just wanted to "make a deal" over giving reparations.
>>2772646Don't you think he would have put it on other species?
>>2772655Don't spend all your foreskins in one place, ziopiggy
>>2772651Dengoids are proud goycattle.
>>2772645Care enough to reply and get mad at people a population that moved from europe to another place in order to engage in western colonial settlement projects and enact an apartheid state is being called white
Why is that the point of contention here?
We know why
>>2772658Jewish supremacist on suicide watch
>>2772611>Be china>Do SOMETHING lame
>>2772660Didn't read your ziopig drivel.
lmao, looks like Trump is scamming Iran again on negotiations but failed to inform Bibi that it's another scam. He assumed quite reasonably that Bibi would understand it's another scam, but maybe ol' B is a little dense?
>>2772659socialism with Chinese characteristics is consistent with Marxist dialectical materialism and Mao's contributions to it on the unique underdeveloped conditions of China following the Revolution. seethe harder Mr. Langley.
how many days for israel to break the ceasfire?
The zogbots are attempting to flood the thread
>>2772667the broader israeli public wants a permanent war of extinction so prolly the former
>>2772416Trump is unironically our Gorbachev
>>2772662You should call the suicide hotline then, ziopiggy
>>2772661My guess is Iran will make trade deals with other countries to waive the fees.
>>2772672Does that mean Newsom will be your Yeltsin?
>>2772674>n-no uuuLol. Jewish supremacist on suicide watch.
>>2772664>You called my precious Israel a European colonial settler state?>YOU'RE A ZIONISTThat just embarrasses yourself
Hasbara and neonazis literally have the exact same. Thanks for proving my point, that's all you're doing
lmao TACO again
the ultimate TACO
>>2772679Do you understand how dumb you look right now?
>>2772671are they in the room with us right now?
>>2772684what is blud yapping about
>>2772680>N-N-No uuuuuJewish supremacist on suicide watch. Your white utopia Israel lost, Shlomo.
>>2772647>if i were china i would've flexed that diplomatic muscle to secure some brownie points with japan and SK, helps get them away from american orbitBeing the nice guy doesn't work in geopolitics, something the Chinese and Russian boomers are incapable of learning. The neon sign should be that Japan, the only nuked country in the world, would rather kiss the ass off the nuker and pay homage to the pilot who did the nuking.
>>2772690Get in here
ITS LIVE
>>2772689Ziopiggy on suicide watch.
>>2772691>pay homage to the pilot who did the nukingIs this hyperbole or did they actually
>>2772667He's probably gonna launch his own nukes now
I think someone joking about him getting hypothetically assassinated for a comedic scenario would face much more scrutiny than when they making comedic scenarios about trump facing the same things, so I won't do it
>>2772691I mean, that's just politics. there are no friends or enemies, just interests
>>2772685Is settler colonialism good?
>>2772598So they suffered some serious damage in the bombing, but it seems to me that the knock-on effects of this war will actually help the Iranian economy? Like they'll get sanctions relief, a toll, and probably shored up their regime since Trump basically said the Opposition is just out and out traitorous and prolly united the public against the U.S.
Hot damn I can only imagine how angry porky is.
>>2772701Of course not, ziopiggy. Now kill yourself pls.
How will whitey cope his way that his jewish supremacist safe haven is getting less popular by the week?
>>2772696If Israel launched nukes unilaterally they would get annihilated. It would be the worst case scenario for Israel, they would be wiped off the map and the entire world would cheer.
>>2772697IDF trying to get in a few sneaky rounds. its like in gaza the artillery batteries timed their shots so the last shell dropped the exact second the ceasefire kicked in
>>2772708There is no ceasefire
>>2772704
holy shit, most buck broken nation of all time
>>2772697Classic Israel, haven't seen a ceasefire they haven't broken.
>>2772704
They will raly behind her in a week again
>>2772705Then why are you throwing a temper tantrum at people calling Israel a settler colonial state?
>>2772694>In March 2026, Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi faced protests and criticism after visiting Arlington National Cemetery, where she paid respects at the grave of the pilot who dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki. The action sparked protests by around 11,000 citizens in Japan over her security policies and alignment with the US. Sorry, reposting with warning that this is AI slop, but the headlines check out…
>>2772704
lmao takaichi did that? clown shit. her military still blames all it was responsible for in ww2 on america doe
>>2772707They would do that because it's called the Samson option
Like trump they think that they can't exist, no one else should
Both are white btw
>>2772714Actually insane. Shinzo would never.
>>2772713He thinks jewish supremacy has nothing to do with being white
>>2772713I did that how, by telling you to stay away from my foreskin?
I asked if you realize how dumb you look by replying to me. I guess you still haven't.
>>2772721This guy is a Zionist.
>>2772704
Literally every single right winger in every country, minus ones like iran, is a huge cuck to the united states and literally bows to them as their superior
It's fascinating how right wingers tend to hate their own countries and view them as inferior more than what leftists are accussed of
>>2772722>Still goes on about his foreskinYour rabbie really did a number on you huh
>>2772725I have mine, that's why I'm telling you you can't have it, Moshe. Go cry about your genocidal coloniast state on r/Jewish.
>>2772721Israel is literally over half mizrahi. They are brown lol. You are thinking of just ashkenazis
Go look at mizrahi brown Jewish IDF members wrecking Palestinian homes. They don't care about white
>>2772728No they're not. You are a Nazi freak.
>>2772728they're also white
>>2772729Type in Google mizrahi Jews
>>2772727Have you considered starting a help group about your local rabbies eating your foreskin? That way no one will ever hurt them like they hurt you with their white ideology
Oil prices not even near the peak before the TACO
>>2772721He do seem to be like that
>>2772722>I did that how, by telling you to stay away from my foreskin?You know very well that's now how this started
THis isn't even how it started
>>2772607 but it sure is funny how you're offended at jews being called white
Come on, call us brown or ESL or third wolrders or some shit like it's 4chan
>I asked if you realize how dumb you look by replying to me. I guess you still haven't.A dumb faggy passive aggressive reply that didn't mean anything, in response to me calling Israel A WHITE SETTLER COLONIAL STATE
HMMMMM WHY DID THAT GET YOU OFFENDED? >>2772728Explain to us the class system of Pissrael because mizrahi are not the ones giving the shots there
>>2772733Why do you insist on eating foreskins? Seek help, ziopiggy.
>>2772737You love talking about your eaten foreskin, not me.
>>2772735>Come on, call us brown or ESL or third wolrders or some shit like it's 4chanThat's exactly what a ziopig would ask for.
>>2772726>Israel nukes Europe and Middle East>US and China only major powers left standingso basically WW2 all over again
and it would cement US hegemony even further
is this actually the master plan?
>>2772739And you love eating them, not me!
>>2772742Since when am I your rabbie who hate your foreskin?
>>2772743When you decided to be a rabbie who eats foreskins.
>>2772742>>2772737>>2772739Can you dipshits stop bitching about foreskins?
>>2772728Israel was founded by Asheknazis who wanted to
Eurofy the land by bringing in
European trees(that would then burn up and cause environmental disasters) and viewed the mizrahi inferior until recently, and saw it necessary to teach them to be more ashekenazi and more
european>Go look at mizrahi brown Jewish IDF members wrecking Palestinian homes. They don't care about whiteGo look at brown Hispanic ICE agents beating and arresting other brown people for the sake of white supremacist policies
They still care about white shit, they still view the more "arab" stuff to be inferior
Did we get a map tracking closed European national airspace during this?
>ceasefire announced.
>suddenly IRGC cares more about striking Israel than striking dumb Bahrain.
My suspicion: The IRGC, which in recent days said it had been exercising "restraint in light of diplomatic efforts," underestimated the level of cuckoldry of the civ government and thought the diplomatic efforts meant more than throwing away a military initiative for a mere promise from Trump. Now IRGC is livid.
>>2772667Who knows at this point. I mean we’ve been getting “president is furious with bibi!” Bullshit since Biden.
>>2772749maybe they think the US is more likely to follow the ceasefire than Israel
(which is true)
>>2772667all of you are getting played and tag-teamed
>>2772745Still waiting for your answer here, shlomo
>>2772736 I don't give a shit about your the rabbie who ate your forskin. You can make another thread about that to help sort you things out
new bread when?
please stop talking about foreskins god damn
The strait "remaining" in Iran's (and Oman) control and collecting some paltry sum for transit means very very little once the leverage of the built up pressure dissipates. Two weeks while Hezbollah gets sieged, NATO prepares to advance the war on Yemen and Iraq and the pressure from attrition is relieved by the side who o the entire regions and has the whole of NATO at their behest.
A ceasefire is a huge concession. Once no more ships remain stranded in the gulf, NATO will resume their salami tactics from a better position. And Iranians are supposed to endure this for the benefit of Russian and Chinese bourgeoisie. I call bullshit on this ridiculous hopium.
>>2772749IRGC should coup the CUCKslamists and SHITvil government and have a military junta rule Iran and lead the war efforts.
>>2772757>NATO prepares to advance the war on Yemen and IraqSince when?
The side who owns the entire region*
>>2772754You're so retarded that you're talking to different people. Good luck with whatever you're trying to accomplish. Israel lost. Go follow Epstein into hell.
>>2772740Because most ziopigs are racist white supremacists and israel is an example of that
>>2772765Epstein, the neonazi Peter Thiel's closest buddy a man who cheered on tribalism and backs numerous white supremacist voices online
>>2772766That's why you asked for it. I see right through your hasbara.
>>2772765Sure, shlomo. It's just a coincidence that two different people are sperging out about their white ideology being associated with being jewish at the same time in the same thread lmao
>>2772770And that's why you support them.
So give me the QRD on the ceasefire - why is it good for Iran? I wouldn't be surprised if Israel and the USA break it since Israel isn't known for following ceasefires
>>2772772Believe whatever you want, Moshe.
Epstein literally wanted more white men to move to Israel and become citizens and have the conversion laws lowered immensely because he thought it would help fight back the ebil brown muslims
>>2772774Thanks for at least admitting that zionists are friends with neonazis
>>2772779They control the straight for now. Wouldn't call it good though until Israel is gone
>>2772779Iran establishes dominance over the strait and gets an economic boost from the new fees + lifted sanctions.
>>2772780Jewish supremacist on suicide watch for having been btfo'd forever LOL
>>2772779It's good for Iranian and gulf Porkies cuz they'll get to regroup and have more $$$
>>2772781>Thanks for at least admitting that zionists are friends with neonazisI never said anything to the contrary.
>>2772779the problem with breaking the ceasefire is that it doesn't immediately solve what the entire war was meant to achieve, stopping the uranium enrichment and missiles
>>2772752>maybe they think the US is more likely to follow the ceasefire than IsraelHow hilarious would it be if Iran intends the ceasefire to be between Iran and the US and not between Iran and Israel… basically letting Trump make it even clearer (if that's possible) that he's Bibi's dog.
Admittedly I'm probably coping and not wanting the fizzle to come.
>>2772768Who is this "regional official?"
>>2772782>lifted sanctions.is that actually a part of the deal?
>>2772792I will laugh so hard if Iran gets its sanctions lifted by showing ruthless force against American bases/assets while Putin has spent over a year trying to woo Trump with business deals.
>>2772796Didn't Russian sanctions get lifted recently because of the recent conflict (to offset oil prices)?
>>2772795>Nothing about nukes or uranium Oh the ziopiggies are going to be big mad.
>>2772800Only a minimal set of sanctions and temporarily. Putin spent four years sending oil and gas to his enemies who were sanctioning him and sending weapons to Ukraine. Iran managed to get Iran
and Russian oil sanctions lifted in a matter of weeks lol.
>>2772803They will say thank you to Trump in a week when Amerikkka starts another attack
>>2772804Really makes you think how cucked Russia is
>>2772768>>2772799Oman is the "do nothing, win" of West Asia.
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