is Iran striking Israel?
i just dont know whats going on
usa just struck israel
>>2774163Iranian plebs want so.
>>2774170It's donnies attempt to pull out without embarrassing himself.
>>2774174Hroofs or didn't happen.
Does anyone else feel really sleepy? Yawn… I think I'll hit the hay, so to say! Let's just all get to bed, NOW
last OP fucked up bad. damn.
>>2774181we shall never speak of that again
>>2774186I think Trump should really punish Europe and shut down all American bases there
For me, it's the strait of Hormvz. That's how trvthpilled I am.
has there ever in history been a similar kind of ruling class blunder that destroyed an entire mode of production (do not @ me if you do not understand what imperialism is)
>>2774188We should have two parallel threads. This thread for posting your furry porn, avatar fagging, jak spamming, leftcom arguments and etc. and the other one for news about Iran.
The US is already talking about canceling talks.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5822016-trump-iran-peace-talks/ Peace Through Strength: Operation Epic Fury Crushes Iranian Threat as Ceasefire Takes Hold
>President Donald J. Trump laid out clear objectives in Operation Epic Fury — and in just 38 days, the greatest fighting force the world has ever known has met those objectives with overwhelming strength and lethal precision. Iran has now agreed to a ceasefire and reopening the Strait of Hormuz as the Trump Administration negotiates a broader peace agreement — once more proving Peace Through Strength victorious.
<Secretary of War Pete Hegseth: “From the strike that took out Qasem Soleimani to tearing up the disastrous Obama Iran deal, to the precision campaign that obliterated Iran’s nuclear sites in Operation Midnight Hammer to the decisive military victory we just achieved in Operation Epic Fury, no other President has shown the courage and resolve of this Commander-in-Chief. President Trump forged this moment. Iran begged for this ceasefire — and we all know it.” <Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dan Caine: “On February 28, the President of the United States ordered the Joint Force to execute Operation Epic Fury with the direction to accomplish three distinct military objectives: destroy Iran’s ballistic missile and drone capabilities, destroy the Iranian navy, and destroy their defense industrial base to ensure that Iran cannot reconstitute the ability to project power outside their borders. Over the course of 38 days of major combat operation, the joint force achieved the military objectives as defined by the President.” <White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt: “This is a victory for the United States of America that the President and our incredible military made happen. From the very beginning of Operation Epic Fury, President Trump stated this would be a four-to-six-week military operation to dismantle the military threat posed by the radical Islamic Iranian regime. Thanks to the unbelievable capabilities of America’s warfighters, the United States has achieved and exceeded those core military objectives in just 38 days.”
>A Showcase of American Military Superiority:
<Iran’s ballistic missile arsenal and production capacity has been razed. More than 85% of the regime’s defense industrial base, including the majority of its ballistic missiles, launcher vehicles, and long-range attack drones, has been destroyed — eliminating its ability to project power and use these capabilities as a shield around their ultimate pursuit of nuclear weapons. <Iran’s air forces have been functionally neutered. Before Operation Epic Fury, the Iranian air force would fly between 30 to 100 flights each day; today, that number is zero. <Iran’s navy has been obliterated. 150 warships across 16 classes have been destroyed, every submarine has been sunk, and 97% of its once-massive inventory of naval mines have been eliminated. <Iran can no longer arm terrorist proxies. The majority of the regime’s offensive weapons are destroyed and the regime can no longer manufacture new terror weapons like ballistic missiles and long-range drones. <Iran’s once-vaunted space program has been devastated. 70% of its launch facilities and ground control stations have been destroyed or degraded, preventing the regime from using space for military purposes. <What’s left of the Iranian regime is desperate, dejected, and in denial. Iran’s command and control structures have been shattered by more than 2,000 strikes, triggering leadership losses, paralysis, and military desertions.
>Operation Epic Fury by the Numbers:
<Over 10,200 total air sorties flown <Over 13,000 targets struck, including: <More than 2,000 command and control targets <More than 1,450 defense and industrial base targets <More than 1,500 air defense targets <More than 700 mine systems <Approximately 800 attack drone targets <More than 600 naval targets <More than 450 ballistic missile targets <Over 1,000 incoming attack drone threats intercepted <Over 700 ballistic missile threats intercepted>>2774198rome 5th century
>>2774202>furry pornNever posted that. (that Hyena Kamala pic was sfw and from a previous thread)
>avatarfaggingGuilty.
>Jak spammingNot my problem
>Leftcom argumentsNot my problem
>News about IranThis is the thread for that
>>2774205
They bombed the shit out of haifa and tel aviv last night, with over 100 missiles. The fuck are you talking about.
>>2774198this blunder has neither destroyed US hegemony or imperialism…
yet. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. There is still plenty of time for Samson option, etc. to ruin everything for everyone.
Currently two C-17s and one C-130 are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were six C-17s and one C-130.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=06a24c,ae145d,ae07d3,ae1462,ae1198,ae144a,33ffe2,896c2c,896c3e,ae07f6>>2774186>Fucking up your own logistics to own the EurosGoddamn imagine how fucking funny it'd be if he closes bases across Europe then wonders why we can't send as many planes to Iran.
>>2774218why is it always a few. weren't there like dozens of tanks in the blitzkrieg?
>>2774190they are all so stupid to keep believing trump
>>2774190sorry, but the toll WILL be paid
Before this war, Trump's record was mixed since he destroyed the American federal government and the country's industrial + scientific base, but his foreign policy mostly reinforced US hegemony.
However, if this war turns out to be mostly a defeat for America, then he'd officially become the best president since he completely worsened the US's position in every conceivable metric.
>>2774246You just know that the democrats will go crazy trying to restore hegemony
>>2774245I love how literally everyone ignores her geg
>>2774245So they can play the old jew card.
>>2774252Damn, the gaslighting. Years of bitching about "Iranian proxies", and suddenly, "nothing to do with them".
>>2774266
it's so funny. everyone is telling different versions of the deals reached. except Iranians, that repeat over and over about Pakistan's prime minister, which seems it was made by the US.
>>2774266
You gotta feels sorry for future historians.
>>2774247>You just know that the democrats will go crazy trying to restore hegemonyIt would take some 3 term FDR/Obama hybrid presidency to be taken seriously on the global stage again. If trump had actually gone through with Irans deal he would have gotten a couple of concessions and while his presidency would have been over the U.S had a chance to rebound under the next democrat. Now? There’s no off ramp, Irans just going to keep attacking till the U.S fucks off and Israel collapses. Trump will continue fucking up nato, continue fucking up every ally and vassals economy and continue exhausting the military for no gains whatsoever. Trumps last off ramp is just leaving and letting Israel collapse on its own. His other options are
<unconventional weapon which will turn the U.S into a pariah state at best. Worst start WW3.
<ground invasionWhich means risking mass casualty event, will eventually need a draft to sustain which will cause even further domestic unrest
<continue air strikes Which won’t achieve anything, the economy only gets worst. Allies and vassals start breaking away to save their economies and they flush billions to trillions down the drain. Israel continues to get pummeled by Iranian missile strikes.
>>2774278don't we have the Chinese satellite imagery to show the actual damage? I really hope China isn't giving fucks to their autistic screech.
>>2774285(of course, it comes with burgerbrained ideological caveats, such as "this is just like when russia said they would overthrow ukraine in 3 days" and other such myths and bad comparisons)
>>2774286Satellite imagery is in the quote xeet.
A lot of the damage here can't be seen from the sky, btw. It's why measuring the resulting fire is better here.
I feel like I'm going crazy, the people who think Trump is serious about this ceasefire in anyway lmao. On the news too they were talking about it like it is serious. This is even less serious than his ultimatum last night.
I think his next move will be to actually seriously up the ante in the next assault. Maybe not all the way to his "stone-age" "civilization ending" threats, but this will be the next move. Just watch. Ain't no way he's going to walk away from this thing without the Iranians kowtowing. If they won't kowtow, then this will go on until he's out of office.
He's already made it pretty clear he doesn't give a fuck what this does to the world economy or anything like that. Maybe he'll do a fakeout every single week to boost the markets, but he's not going to walk away from this.
>>2774296Even a rational, non-megalomaniac president wouldn't walk away from this situation. There is no way in hell Trump is going to just let this go. Why because he cares about the loss or suffering of X, Y, or Z? Lol, what basis would you believe that? He's a retard who seriously thinks people will just give him whatever without resistance and he always tests the waters that way, this situation is impossible for him to walk away from tho. Iran isn't going to be able to foolsie him like Rutte with Greenland or whatever. Iran won't call him daddy to appease his bruised ego.
>>2774266
Israel is an existential threat to the world.
Trump should bomb it.
>israel immediately breaks ceasefire
did anyone expect anything different?
>>2774306https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-insists-iran-ceasefire-must-apply-lebanon/>France has also accused Israeli soldiers of seeking to “intimidate” French military forces taking part in a United Nations peacekeeping mission in the region.So are you going to do anything about it JVPITER? You're going to let a nation of 10 million push around the great 70 million strong frog empire? Why not "intimidate" them back? You're not actually "intimidated" by the Jews are you?
>>2774318Wow wow wow Emmanuel c'est un peu antisemite ce que tu dis
>Vance: Iran's "right to enrichment": "My wife has the right to skydive. But she doesn't jump out of an airplane because she and I have an agreement that she's not going to do that, because I don't want my wife jumping out of an airplane. We don't really concern ourselves with what they claim they have the right to do. We concern ourselves with what they actually do."
what did he mean by this
>>2774322He owns his wife?
>>2774318Blood-boiling cuckoldry from the supposed multipolar paragon of European independence. The French used to do insane shit to try and avoid becoming a vassal post-WW2, now they're reduced to posturing on twitter, too afraid to even go after the US' rogue proxy in diplomatic statements by simultaneously repeating their commitment to disarming Hezbollah.
>>2774324Yeah because he's a MAN 😎
fizzled
since the situation has fizzled heres a documentary about the first Hormuz tanker war in 1987
>>2774355>>2774344Fizzlecels thought the ceasefire was real, laugh at them.
iran could retaliate against israel right fucking now and gain so much propaganda influence with arabs all the way to morocco but is instead gonna wait till israel starts carpet bombing tehran again i guess
>>2774322uhhh i guess bro?
>>2774322bros for anyone worrying that trump dying would result in someone more competent filling in for him, i don't think you have anything to worry about
>>2774315the wrath of juputer
>>2774296So is Trump even claiming there’s a ceasefire anymore? Like I think he’d want a 2 week reprieve, but if Iran and Israel keep bombing each other is he just going to ignore it and pretend nothing happened?
>>2774391Who knows. My bet has been that bombing will resume well before a fortnight. Screeencap this.
>>2774391I think Leavitt said no ceasefire anymore but I don't even know.
23:33 GMT
NATO Secretary-General Mark Rutte held a closed-door meeting with President Donald Trump to discuss the war with Iran and the US president’s anger over the bloc’s refusal to provide assistance.
“This was a meeting between friends. Because we like each other. I really admire his leadership,” Rutte told CNN after the meeting.
23:43 GMT
President Donald Trump has posted an all-caps message on his Truth Social platform, accusing NATO of refusing to help when Washington needed the bloc’s help.
“NATO WASN’T THERE WHEN WE NEEDED THEM, AND THEY WON’T BE THERE IF WE NEED THEM AGAIN. REMEMBER GREENLAND, THAT BIG, POORLY RUN, PIECE OF ICE!!!” Trump wrote, following his meeting with Secretary-General Mark Rutte.
>>2774400I think another option is, as they keep saying, whether they mean it or not, they don't know who is in charge in Iran anymore after they keep killing all of them. This may all be a ploy to figure out who is calling the shots now so they can kill them.
Is Iran going to resume attacks?
>>2774402He's gonna stroke out.
>>2774402cmooonn dismantle nato already you fruity octogenarian
>>2774402Close up the military bases ur flying from and leave the premises in peace.
>>2774407He won't do it if Rutte was the last person speaking to him.
>>2774402Please let the US and EU fight
Give the leftcoms the inter-imperialist war they so desire
>>2774318Too little too late for your relevance little Manu
>>2774406From your lips to God's ears anon inshallah
>>2774415it would surely be the end of an epoch closing hundreds of years of history
>>2774436I hope that's not a gun that man is shouldering, that could harm people.
>>2774415That would be intra-imperialist, actually.
>>2774422
It vets better
>Vance claims Iran’s ‘garbage’ 10-point plan ‘probably written by ChatGPT’
>>2774485c's fire falling apart already because of israel
So is the toll being paid or no? If so, then it's pretty much confirmed that Iran is an imperial country
>>2774525retard is extremely based for giving away the game plan to iran
>>2774526Stop suffocating people by turning oxygen into carbon dioxide
>>2774525Is this shit real?
>>2774526🤫🤫🤫 people don't read Lenin here, just watch the show as the US empire shoot itself in the foot over and over again.
>>2774525>Genocide at 8pm>on to our next Conquesthis tweets are basically just criminal confessions at this point
>>2774525if you're the Iranian delegation in charge of negotiations in Pakistan, do you just ignore that the POTUS is truthing out this shit?
>>2774535>his tweets are basically just criminal confessions at this pointHe doesn't care
He's been doing illegal shit since the start of his term without suffering any consequence whatsoever
At this point he's pretty much bragging about being able to do illegal shit
>>2774525>actually, to it's next conquest Cry wolf only works so many times.
Shart of the deal market collapse incoming.
>>2774545I fucking hate this genocidal whore
>>2774545How do you wipe out a civilization without also killing people like your own journalists who are over there?
>The CIA used a top-secret new technology known as “Ghost Murmur” to track down and rescue the second U.S. airman shot down over the mountains of Iran over the weekend, according to a report.
>The equipment uses long-range quantum magnetometry – technology that measures magnetic fields – to trace the electromagnetic signals produced by a human heartbeat.
>It then pairs the data with AI software in order to isolate it from distracting background noise and pinpoint its source.
>According to the Post, the technology was developed by Skunk Works, the secretive advanced development division of aerospace giant Lockheed Martin, and has been tested on Black Hawk helicopters with a view to its future use with F-35 fighter jets.
>They continued: “Normally, this signal is so weak that it can only be measured in a hospital setting with sensors pressed nearly against the chest.
>“But advances in a field known as quantum magnetometry – specifically sensors built around microscopic defects in synthetic diamonds – have apparently made it possible to detect these signals at dramatically greater distances.”
>They also addressed its limitations: “The capability is not omniscient. It works best in remote, low-clutter environments and requires significant processing time.”
i hate americans so much
>>2774545i hope she takes a molotov to the face and all the fake plastic she's made out of melts
>>2774454>Iran empathizes with the average working burger even after losing an entire school of little girls to burger bombs dropped by an all-volunteer armyThey're too nice to us. Their empathy and humanity…. it makes me feel so fuzzy inside.
>>2774557It's fake and gay.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-is-the-quantum-ghost-murmur-purportedly-used-in-iran-scientists/They have a fucking transponder they use. Why the fuck would they need to detect a heartbeat when they can detect the transponder? How could you tell the difference between a human heartbeat and a similar animal even if this thing could detect heartbeats from miles away at all?
https://www.newsweek.com/former-nato-commander-reacts-trump-iran-airman-rescue-11787986>"This is a full colonel, so this is somebody who is 45-plus years old, probably went to SERE school a long time ago, who climbed 7,000 feet, used his transponder, does it all on a broken ankle—I can't wait to see this guy," the admiral told Wolf Blitzer. "It's an amazing story."https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/injured-u-s-airman-in-iran-used-boeing-device-to-signal-rescuers/> U.S. airmen in Iran used Boeing device to signal rescuers Everyone except the NYP
EXCLUSIVE is saying transponder but you can choose to believe the NYP's anonymous sources if you choose
https://nypost.com/2026/04/07/us-news/ghost-murmur-a-never-used-secret-tool-deployed-to-find-lost-airman-in-iran-in-daring-mission/ exclusive>The secret, never-before-used CIA tool that helped find airman downed in Iran: ‘If your heart is beating, we will find you’ >>2774557🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
wtf kinda star trek techno babble shit is this lmao
>>2774562like the Scientific American article said:
>Orzel struggles to see how a Ghost Murmur could work. “There is really fascinating work being done using quantum magnetometry to measure heart rates,” he says, and magnetic brain scans can now catch the tiny flickers of firing nerves. “But none of that is something that works over ranges of many miles.”
>So why was this a story at all? Orzel has a guess: “Somebody yanking a reporter’s chain,” he says. It could be a “snarky, clever way to say, ‘Of course, I’m not going to tell you how we figured this out’”—or a piece of disinformation “to fool somebody into thinking that we actually have this secret technology.”Yeah it's top secret technology but some guy is just going to disclose it to reporters kek. That's prison time. Probably just some psy-op officer just testing to see how stupid of bullshit they can get the American news media to publish.
>>2774561Forgot the other part of this stupid:
>GPS is actually nano quantum heart detecting technologyThe dude specifically climbed the mountain to get a better signal and he sent a fucking message. Jesus Christ. Americans are so retarded you can convince them dropping a pin on google maps is quantum soul detecting technology.
https://www.cbsnews.com/projects/2026/us-military-rescue-iran/> A transponder is set to ping regularly, so that even if a service member sends nothing, the GPS beacon automatically emits a signal. For the next several hours the team received several pings within about 100 feet of each other.>The weapons officer was about three-quarters of the way up but his communication signal was weak, so he sought higher ground.>When he could, the officer sent a message: "God is good."God is good.
>>2774545>geopolitical geniuskek
This is an interimperialist conflict btw
>>2774610Conflict for Iran's emergence as an imperialist power
>>2774610Wrong. This is an interdengist war
>>2774630Iran is already imperialist
Neither Tehran nor Washington.
Iran and US both benefit from this war though
>>2774643>Nobody here knows what an empire is holy shit. Proptip its not when a country is le big,true true true
> there's a single imperialist country in the world and its the U.S.LOL letting NATO off easy are we?
>>2774198>destroyed an entire mode of production2025: Neoliberal Zionists and DSA moderate Zionists agree that "we need Abundance, not Stalinist authoritarian regulations of the free market"
https://therevolvingdoorproject.org/who-is-behind-the-growing-abundance-movement/https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/https://newrepublic.com/article/189303/san-francisco-moderate-politics-millionaire-tech-donors2026 after that very same class of AI using PMC Zionists does their war they've been dreaming about for decades:
>This Machine Kills podcast ep 451. Do Not Become Addicted to Electrons>https://www.podbean.com/ew/dir-8ehq3-2c7467f6<We chat with Tim Sahay and Kate Mackenzie — authors of the indispensable newsletter The Polycrisis and hosts of the new podcast Electric World Order — to get into the energy transition, financial markets, fossil fuel disruptions, and the war in Iran. <Much of the coverage about the current oil crisis and chokepoint in the Strait of Hormuz is focused on the impacts of supply shocks, but equally important are the long-term effects of demand destruction. We lay out what an energy transition under conditions of polycrisis actually entails: things don’t just smoothly change while staying the same, instead it’s more like a material shift in the centre of political, economic, energetic power: from the petrostate (e.g. USA) to the electrostate (e.g. China)>>2774557>i hate americans so much<during a podcast intervie, Gregg Phillips, a FEMA official, claimed he teleported to a Waffle House in Georgia. He describing the experience as both frightening and an "incredible adventure" However, employees at the Waffle House have no recollection of him or any such eventTwin Peaks Season 3 style psychosis
>>2774643it's when a country with a capable economy uses this to bend other nations to its will militarily and economically
>Khomeini strongly opposed Marxism. `Atheistic Marxists` were the one group he excluded from the broad coalition of anti-Shah groups he worked to rally behind his leadership.[84] In his last will and testament, he urged future generations to respect property on the grounds that free enterprise turns the `wheels of the economy` and prosperity would produce `social justice` for all, including the poor.
>"Islam differs sharply from communism. Whereas we respect private property, communism advocates the sharing of all things – including wives and homosexuals."[85][86]
>What one scholar (Ervand Abrahamian) called the populist thrust of Khomeini can be found in the fact that after the revolution, revolutionary tribunals expropriated "agribusinesses, large factories, and luxury homes belonging to the former elite," but were careful to avoid "challenging the concept of private property."[87]
>Khomeini believed Islam would replace both capitalism and communism: … `We have often proclaimed this truth in our domestic and foreign policy, namely that we have set as our goal the world-wide spread of the influence of Islam and the suppression of the rule of the world conquerors … We wish to cause the corrupt roots of Zionism, capitalism and Communism to wither throughout the world. We wish, as does God almighty, to destroy the systems which are based on these three foundations, and to promote the Islamic order of the Prophet … in the world of arrogance.[17
>Neither East nor West
>Khomeini strongly opposed alliances with, or imitation of, Eastern (communist) and Western Bloc (capitalist) nations. The slogan "Neither East nor West", meant not only opposition to the two superpower blocs, but also keeping Iran and Islam uncontaminated by their ideas and ideologies.
>In our domestic and foreign policy, … we have set as our goal the world-wide spread of the influence of Islam … We wish to cause the corrupt roots of Zionism, capitalism and Communism to wither throughout the world. We wish, as does God almighty, to destroy the systems which are based on these three foundations, and to promote the Islamic order of the Prophet …[198][172][173][174]
>Despite commonalities between the Islamic Republic and Marxist thought and practice – Iran nationalized many of its industries, strongly denounced foreign intervention of capitalist powers, shared anti-capitalist, anti-imperialist rhetoric (even borrowing imagery from Marxists),[199][note 4] while Iran's Tudeh (Communist) party saw itself as part of "a front of cooperation … for popular support of the anti-imperialist revolution of February 1979"before its membership was imprisoned – Khomeini was "anti-Marxist",[201] and did not follow the Marxist economic analysis of capitalism being the cause of imperialism, and socialism its cure.
>Olivier Roy writes that Khomeini did "extoll" Shiism and saw a special role for the Shi'a, but not one of privilege. He thought of Shia, "the way Marx thought of the proletariat: a particular group that brings about the emancipation of all humanity," by leading a revolution to form a new world order.[180]
>>2774653stalinist revisionism at it again
>A Call to Divine Unity: Letter of Imam Khomeini to President Mikhail Gorbachev>Sayyid Ruhullah Musawi Khomeini
>Letter of Imam Khomeini,
>The Great Leader of the Islamic Revolution and Founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran,To President Mikhail Gorbachev, Leader of the Soviet Union
In the Name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful
Your Excellency Mr. Gorbachev1, Chairman of the Presidium of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
With due wishes for the happiness and prosperity of Your Excellency and the people of the Soviet Union.
Since your assumption of office there has been the impression that Your Excellency, in analyzing world political events, particularly those pertaining to the Soviet Union, have found yourself in a new era of reassessment, change, and confrontation; and your boldness and initiative in dealing with the realities of the world is quite likely to bring about changes that would result in upsetting the equations of power dominating the world. I have therefore found it necessary to bring certain matters to your attention.
Even if your new approach and decisions are merely used as a means to overcome the party crisis, and to solve some of the problems confronting your people, your courage in reappraising a school of thought that has for decades enchained the revolutionary youth of the world behind its iron curtain is indeed worthy of praise. If, however, you are considering taking a further step forward, the first thing that will ensure your success is that you re-evaluate your predecessors’ policy of obliterating God and religion from society2, a policy that has no doubt given the heaviest blow to the Soviet people. Rest assured that this is the only way whereby world problems can be dealt with realistically.
Viewing Islam as a remnant of the pre-socialist stage, Marxists took two major approaches to confront it: to wipe out Islam as an alien element from the scene of public life by openly challenging it, and to assimilate Islam into Russian society by Russianizing Muslims. Stalin, the most notorious of all communist leaders, persecuted Muslims on a large scale by banishing certain Muslim peoples collectively to Siberia and Asia Minor. The astonishing number of Russian anti- religious publications distributed in Islamic countries is part of the Soviet government’s universal struggle against Islam. The occupation of Afghanistan was the Soviet Union’s last attempt to penetrate the Islamic world.
Of course it is possible that as a result of wrong economic policies of former communist authorities, the Western world, an illusory heaven, will appear to be fascinating; but the truth lies elsewhere. If you hope, at this juncture, to cut the economic Gordian knots of socialism and communism by appealing to the center of Western capitalism, you will, far from remedying any ill of your society, commit a mistake which those to come will have to erase. For, if Marxism has come to a deadlock in its social and economic policies, capitalism has also bogged down, in this as well as in other respects though in a different form.
Mr. Gorbachev,
Reality must be faced. The main problem confronting your country is not one of private ownership, freedom and economy; your problem is the absence of true faith in God, the very problem that has dragged, or will drag, the West to vulgarism and an impasse. Your main problem is the prolonged and futile war you have waged against God, the source of existence and creation.
Mr. Gorbachev,
It is clear to everybody that from now on communism will only have to be found in the museums of world political history, for Marxism cannot meet any of the real needs of mankind. Marxism is a materialistic ideology and materialism cannot bring humanity out of the crisis caused by a lack of belief in spirituality—the prime affliction of the human society in the East and the West alike.
Mr. Gorbachev,
You may have not in theory turned your back on certain aspects of Marxism—and may continue to profess your heartfelt loyalty to it in interviews—but you know that, in practice, the reality is not so. The leader of China3 struck the first blow to communism and you have
struck the second and, apparently, final blow. Today we have no such thing as communism in the world.
I earnestly call on you, however, not to get trapped, while tearing down the walls of Marxist illusions, in the prison of the West and the Great Satan.4 I hope you will attain the honor of removing the decayed layers of 70-year communist aberration from the face of history and of your country. Today those allies of yours that are genuinely concerned about their homelands and people are no longer willing to sacrifice their subterranean and surface resources to keep alive the myth of the success of communism—an ideology whose din of collapse has already reached the ears of their children.
Mr. Gorbachev,
When after 70 years the call, “Allah is Great” and the testimony to the prophethood of the Seal of the Prophets, Muhammad (peace be upon him and his posterity) were heard from the minarets of the mosques in some of your Republics, all the followers of the pure Muhammadan Islam were moved to tears out of ecstasy.
Therefore, I have found it necessary to remind you to reflect once again on the materialistic and theistic worldviews. Materialists consider sense to be the sole criterion of knowledge and are of the opinion that whatever cannot be known through the senses falls outside the realm of knowledge. They identify existence with matter and consider as nonexistent anything that has no material body. Inevitably, they regard the world of the unseen—God Almighty, Divine Revelation, Prophethood, and the Resurrection—as mere fiction.
On the other hand, theists consider both sense and reason to be the criteria of knowledge, and maintain that whatever can be known through reason lies within the realm of knowledge, although it is not perceptible. To theists, therefore, existence is inclusive of both the unseen and the manifest. For a thing to exist it is not necessary to have a material body. In the same way that a material thing depends on an incorporeal thing,5 sensory perception is dependent on rational perception.6
The Holy Qur’an reprobates the fundamentals of materialistic thought and, addressing those who say:
“We shall never believe in thee until we see God manifestly,”7
proclaims:
“Vision comprehends Him not, and He comprehends all vision; and He is the Knower of subtleties, the Aware.”8
I should not like to present here Qur’anic arguments concerning Divine Revelation, Prophethood and the Resurrection which from your point of view are debatable. In fact, I do not wish to entangle you in the twists and turns of philosophical arguments, particularly those of Islamic philosophy. I will content myself by presenting one or two simple, intuitive examples of which even politicians can avail themselves.
It is self-evident that matter, whatever its nature, has no awareness of self. Consider a stone statue: each side is ignorant of the other side. Whereas human beings and animals clearly observe and are aware of their surroundings. They know where they are and are aware of what goes on around them. There must be, then, an element in men and animals that transcends matter and is separate from it, living beyond the life of matter.
Intrinsically, man seeks to attain absolute perfection. He strives, as you well know, for absolute power over the world; he is not attached to any power that is defective. If he has the entire world at his command, he naturally feels inclined to have command of another world once he is informed of its existence. No matter how learned a person may be if he learns of some other branch of knowledge, he naturally feels inclined to attain mastery of that branch of knowledge as well.
Therefore, there must be some Absolute Power and Absolute Knowledge to which man is attached. It is God we all seek although we may not be aware of it. Man strives to attain Absolute Truth, so that he may be annihilated in God. Basically, the desire for eternal life that is inherent in every individual is proof of the existence of an Eternal World to which destruction cannot find its way.
Should Your Excellency desire further information on these matters, you may command those scholars of yours who are well-versed in this field to study, in addition to the works of Western philosophers, the writings of Peripatetic philosophers9, al-Farabi10 and Avicenna,11
peace be upon them. It will then become clear that the law of causation on which all knowledge depends is a rational, not sensible law. Likewise, perception of general laws and concepts on which all reasoning rests is reached not by means of sensory experience but through rational argument.12 Your scholars may further refer to the Ishraqi13 theosophy of Suhrawardi,14 and explain to you that the flesh, as well as any other material thing, is in need of Pure Light which has no material entity, that man’s witnessing of his own truth does not take place by means of any sense organ.15 You may also have the scholars familiarize themselves with Transcendental philosophy16 of Mulla Sadra 17(may Allah be pleased with him and resurrect him with the prophets and the pious), so that it may become clear that the nature of knowledge is different from the nature of matter and that intellect, far removed from matter, cannot be restricted by the laws governing matter.
I won’t tire you further by mentioning the works of mystics, in particular Muhyi’d-Din ibn al-‘Arabi.18 If you wish to make yourself acquainted with the doctrines of this celebrated mystic, send a number of your brilliant scholars, who are well-versed in this field, to Qum19 so that, by reliance on God, they may, after a couple of years, glimpse the depth of the delicate stages of gnosis,20 which will be impossible for them to acquire without making such a journey.
Mr. Gorbachev,
After mentioning these problems and preliminary points, let me call on you to study Islam earnestly, not because Islam and the Muslims may need you but because Islam has exalted universal values which can bring comfort and salvation to all nations and remove the basic problems of mankind. A true understanding of Islam may forever release you from the problem of Afghanistan21 and other similar involvements. We treat Muslims of the world as Muslims of our own country and will ever share in their destiny.
By granting certain liberties to some of your Republics in matters pertaining to religious practices, you have shown that you no longer consider religion as the “opium of the people.”22 Indeed, how can Islam be the opium of the people—the religion that has made Iranians as firm as a mountain against superpowers? Is the religion that seeks the administration of justice in the world and man’s freedom from material and spiritual shackles, the opium of the people? Only that religion is the opium of the people that causes the material and spiritual resources of Islamic and non-Islamic countries to pass into the clutches of super and lesser powers and that preaches that religion is separate from politics. This, however, cannot be called a true religion; it is what our people call “an American religion.”
In conclusion, I declare outright that the Islamic Republic of Iran as the greatest and most powerful base of the Islamic world can easily fill the vacuum of religious faith in your society. In any case, our country, as in the past, honors good neighborhood and bilateral relations.
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance.23
Ruhullah al-Musawi al-Khomeini
67/10/11 AHS
[January 1, 1989]
https://al-islam.org/call-divine-unity-letter-imam-khomeini-president-mikhail-gorbachev-sayyid-ruhullah-musawi-khomeini-1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khomeini%27s_letter_to_Mikhail_Gorbachev>>2774665YOU FIRST POSTED THESE SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND GOT THE SAME RESPONSE
>>2774654he is
>implyingkkkritikkkal ssupport for the burgersraeli soldertariat against the iranian commie-killing civilian population
>>2774676What response did I get?
>>2774643>>2774649read lenin you absolute fucking jewish nigger retards
strait status?
hello i hate jews
>— As expected, President Pezeshkian and the reformist lobby are pushing very hard for the meeting in Pakistan to take place, and to give Israel more time to be ‘pressured diplomatically’ to respect the ceasefire in Lebanon.
>It seems they still haven’t learned.
>(Of course, Pezeshkian is only the face, not the actual root of the problem. He doesn’t have the autism score or influence.)
>🇮🇱/🇶🇦 NEW: Iran’s ‘Handala’ hackers have managed to breach the phone of former IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi, confirming for the first time that he secretly visited Qatar and met with Emir Hamad Bin Al-Thani
>🇮🇷/🇮🇱 NEW: Hezbollah has carried out five operations so far this morning
>🇮🇷/🇮🇱 BREAKING: Hezbollah announces the resumption of military operations against Israel
>‘In the name of Allah, the most Merciful, the Beneficent: In defense of Lebanon and its people, and in response to the enemy's violation of the ceasefire agreement, after the Resistance adhered to the ceasefire while the enemy did not:
>The fighters of the Islamic Resistance in Lebanon targeted the Manara settlement with rockets at 02:30 on Thursday, 09-04-2026.
>Our responses will continue until the Israeli-American aggression against our country and our people ceases.’https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator Currently two C-17s, one C-130, one KC-135 and one TC-135 are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were eight C-17s, one A-330 and one 787.
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>>2774746>As expected, President Pezeshkian and the reformist lobby are pushing very hard for the meeting in Pakistan to take place, and to give Israel more time…the iranian gorbachevists might yet snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. don't lose hope yet unipolarbros
>>2774756It is. Are you new? Pepes are also banned.
>>2774788thog dont caare
ziorats and american bases go boom :)
>>2774653the trvth nvke that destroyed leftkkkoms forever
Lads please help me understand this. Israel is an extension of the US, so is it correct to affirm that the US doesn't want peace and lets Israel bomb Lebanon?
>>2774814Gaza is probably the easoer targert fort them now
>>2774810>Israel is an extension of the USisrael, despite being 90% on the same page as america, is a sovereign independent nation with its own interests and ambitions. i wouldn't draw conclusions about american desire from israeli actions tbh
>>2774814yeah but they have the hostages now
I think Israeli fatigue is sweeping the US.
https://old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1sg3sdt/how_would_you_feel_about_the_next_us_president/Can't say I much care for them myself. Not my cup of tea. Never saw the appeal.
>>2774821people are gonna be so pissed off when the dem nominee is pro israel. exciting times ahead
>>2774285>>2774812He can’t TACO his way out of this one. And he’s on a timer. Oil execs are already getting antsy.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/08/hormuz-oil-trump-iran-tolls-00863570He doesn’t even have daddy government to bail him out anymore ever since he became the government. No more failing upwards.
>>2774836>u have failed to join an illegal war of aggression.shameful
>>2774779
Half that shit literally isn't happening. Nobody has attacked Iran in the last couple days (least of all the GCC cucks who haven't fired a shot in this entire war). Meanwhile Iran fired missiles at Israel just yesterday. If you genuinely think this has been a defeat for Iran, then surely you can point to a single objective that the imperialists have actually achieved.
>>2774838UAE did attack Iran just after the ceasefire was announced and Iran attacked them back. Not much since then it seems.
The main sticking point has been the attacks on Lebanon.
>>2774838They "mowed the grass" as the Israelis say
>>2774829>>2774825Stop quoting fascist retards. France has vested interests in Lebanon, even tried to put the country under tutellage after the Beirut explosion. It's part of their imperialist middle east strategy, this is why they try (and fail) to mog hezbollah and keep Israel and the Saudis out at the same time.
>>2774849
Fucking Amerikkkans like you constantly humiliate yourself like this. Clearly you know nothing about her, her family or her party. He father founded the National Front, was a holocaust denier, and self identified as a racist. She's doing the same shit only with a cheap populist sheen painted on top.
>>2774845Frenchies are just the ultimate "who do you think you are?" Lol. Making demands with no leverage whatsoever. Maybe they should back up their demands with an ultimatum or threat or something. Too cowardly to even try and lean on Israel.
>>2774836This fucking slimy greaseball is my most hated politician in the EU, fuck this guy so much
>>2774863
The people who perpetrate that are of the same ilk that committed atrocities in Gaza.
>>2774863
Your ideology was made by Epstein, maybe go seethe about gamergate with the other chvds instead of glazing a party funded by waffen SS and colonial torturers here
>>2774863
Because the Le Pens and the Netenyahus of this world have the same ideology and goals? They're both deranged ultranationalists who despise reality?
Okay so we're being raided by some nazi discord or something. Amazing.
>>2774863
Don't you have russian communist offices to sabotage you self-hating faggot?
>>2774863
You are truly ZION-brained if you think Jews were the only victims of the holocaust.
Romani, anyone partially black, Jehovah's Witnesses, gays, Slavs, communists, socialists, labor organizers, the disabled…..
>>2774876
You are ZION-brained as well
>>2774876
The only reason I know of the holocaust is because I read a history book you racist tosser
This guy comes here claiming Russians are being genocided by Ukrainian NATO nazis, but then simultaneously denies the Holocaust, uses racial slurs, mocks vaccines, and supports French neo-nazis.
What the fuck is going on?
>>2774887
History is often written by liberals, not necessarily zionists. Regardless, you still bought into their bullshit.
>>2774876
You have to go back
>>2774875>>2774879Le Pen is pro-ukraine she just doesn't want France to go broke supporting it. Every le based european pro-sovereignty right-winger always turns out to be a NATO stooge
Remember to report Nazi posts.
>>2774893
Withholding information is another form of dishonesty.
>I deny that it was unique in any way
Why wouldn’t it be?
>>2774899
That is your opinion, not a fact.
>>2774899
If someone says to "report Nazis" and you feel obligated to respond to that post with a personal degree of butthurt… then all you are doing is confirming you are in fact a Nazi.
And don't pretend to know what other people think about other genocides either. You think leftists pick and choose which genocides we are opposed to? Then you are a moron. Kys.
>>2774905I’m not watching fucking badempanada. Tell me in your own words or shut the fuck up.
>>2774908
Ah yes I'm a Jewish supremacist because I dislike Nazis who come into a leftist website explicitly just to make off topic posts about holocaust denial.
Care to explain why you felt personally offended by the post that simply said to oppose Nazism?
Marine Le Peen
>>2774899
Yeah we would, denying genocide is fucked up and evil.
>>2774911Alright, shut the fuck up now.
>>2774916Do you deny the holodomor?
>>2774910
Yes every Ukrainian is a Nazi terrorist and should be executed. A very normal, non-genocidal, and leftist thing to say.
I don't support NATO and I despise Azov but I'm not as dull witted as you as to therefore believe the opposite must be good, to go full Nazi-Campist and spend all day seig heiling in support of Wagner and Rusisch.
>>2774914Piss off nazi
>>2774919You certainly deny the holocaust
>>2774824I don't get it, are you defending the tudeh party? They're a small office of expats in Germany, they couldn't be further from the Real Movement if they tried.
>>2774914
This isn't true. You're inventing a fictional version of me in your head to make a strawman enemy of, which is nothing like the real me, because you are a retard and a literally Nazi holocaust denier.
>>2774899
Reminder that /pol/ was a psyop created by Jeffrey Epstein. The entire alt-right movement is a Zionist ploy.
>>2774922So you deny the holodomor? Isn't that evil?
>>2774929
Will you condemn the Nazis?
>>2774934
you will never be a real Third Worlder
>>2774933>Isn't that evil?A holocaust denier and a moralist. How shameful.
>>2774937
You are a Nazi.
>>2774942Using your words tard.
>>2774916>Yeah we would, denying genocide is fucked up and evil. >>2774946
>You deny the Palestinean genocide.
I deny white genocide nazi
>>2774919>Do you deny the holodomor hoax read a fucking book retard
or if you're too lazy to, ask yourself this simple question:
if Stalin and the Soviets deliberately wanted to starve the Ukrainians to death, why did their population predictions for the 5 Year Plans call for a steady increase in the Ukranian population? It's a bit odd to expect that a government that hates Ukrainians would want them to grow in number, right?
>>2774948I didn’t say evil stupid
>>2774940You will always be a Jewish exceptionalist. Keep crying about irrelevant Nazis under your bed while an actual existing Jewish supremacist state is slaughtering children.
This guy is denying the Holocaust but believes there is an ongoing genocide against Russians.
They claim to be a Communist but say every Ukrainian needs to be racially exterminated.
>>2774956
>No argument made against historical research because you don't know anything and just blindly believe Ukrainian fascists
I accept your defeat.
>>2774956
didnt happen fuck off nazi apologist
>>2774541Wouldn't happen, because the transnational capitalist class approves of trump. Europe is run by the German Deep State and they are on the same side of the "mad king"
The only thing the Deep State actors would change about Trump is making him young&hot, but they're fine with his policy
>>2774961>>2774962I confirm all holos. The holocaust, the holodomor, the hologram, the holocene. I don't deny any of them.
>>2774965
You could use this exact arguement to deny the existence of Palestinians because they're all Arabs who speak Arabic, not Palestinian.
My point being that is arguement is wrong and retarded. More explicitly, it's a Nazi arguement used to justify genocide. Because you are a Nazi.
>>2774965
Donetsk status? Leg status?
fun fact 'holodomor' wasnt even defined untill the 1980s by a congress of nazis who fled ukraine to goto Canada and in the congress they admitted they had no material evidence to prove stalin intentionally did this.
>Anglo Z in charge of not sperging out
why are is Z gang doing this? is this because Iran was able to inflict a strategic defeat and the Rossiya Multipolar Federation of Holy Multipolarity has been flailing about in Donbass for more than four years? lmao
>>2774972Are you willing to admit that the Holocaust didn't just target da jooz?
>>2774977
>Nazis were just a "punk subculture" and poses no threat
Zionist is literally just Jewish Nazism.
>Ukrainian retards and /pol/ MAGAtards going crazy ITT because they know Trump completely cucked to Iran and they want to distract us from the sight of the most powerful military in the world getting their balls squeezed by a shipping lane
kek
>>2774986>>2774987The younger sibling of Zionism and Nazi ideology is unironically the current state ideology of the Rossiya Federation. Russia defeated multipolarity in the same way that Japan destroyed their own "co-prosperity sphere" and now it's up to Iran and China to bail these stupid ass white monkeys out. Russians are fucking retards and only communism was able to keep their shitty society afloat.
>>2774990Oil execs are seething too much for that to happen
>>2774824>pictankiesisters… our response?
>>2774993Ukrainians are paying the price for listening to Westoids and Russians are paying the price for becoming nationalist abject retards who think JD Vance is their Christian brother who will bail them out while spitting on the Chinese and Iranians. Fuck all Russians until the war is over, you wasted countless lives and materiel in Donbass that could've been used to assist Iran instead, who are clearly more capable and intelligent than the average Russian general or officer or government official will ever be. You are a pathetic fucking worm compared to any Iranian or Chinese counterpart, you lack the intelligence and the capability and the potential at every level possible until you can reform your shit country and shit society. Fuck Russia.
>>2774960What's the name of this rabbi, he's fucking crazy
>>2774996stop it you're spoiling me with this delicious euroid seethe
>>2774983
Did it work lol? I can't see how that would be physically possible.
>>2775005The fact is that the global left around the world is much happier to support Iran's legendary defense of their national sovereignty against an insane global hegemon than they want to support Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Russia is exactly to the global south and BRICS what Israel is to the Western bloc - a pox and a hypocritical cancer that makes each faction much weaker. You know this is true.
>>2775012Posting this when Iran has dealt the US a severe strategic blow is insane but representative of how fucking delusional Anglo Z has become. Deep down I know you're seething at the IRGC for essentially embarrassing the fuck out of the entire Russian general staff and political leadership. You are bad at war and no amount of jerking off to your betters long ago a la Operation Bagration will save you until you get down on your knees and apologize to Tehran and Beijing.
>>2775008If a Chinese person was running Russia instead of Putin they would have simply sat and done nothing and right now Ukraine would have already gone back to the Russian sphere of influence because you can't hyperventilate about an existential threat if said existential threat is very clearly not going to attack you (just like how a majority of people in Taiwan don't care about China since they know China has no desire to attack them).
where did this angerey banderite come from
>>2774983
>>2774985
Thanks for that info. Still the whole murmur stuff was tantamount to pseudoscience since all this stuff about heartbeats only works in close ranges. If it is analyzable by AI sure, but if AI cannot see it, it's because it doesn't exist and you are playing with noise.
>>2775017I think if anyone was in Putin's shoes they'd be acting more or less the same because politics adheres to material reality and not chinese man in power good slav man bad
>>2775019lost sharty/pol raider stuck around because they likely enjoyed the reprive from constant drone gore and BBC hardcore porn threads that makeup 90% of all content on either
>>2775017Just because the Russians lack any concept of strategic patience doesn't mean China has to suicide itself into a quagmire of a war. This was exactly Iran's calculation and it paid off. The most effective position is assuming the strategic defensive but reacting in a tactically offensive way. Russia tried to gain the strategic initiative, but a government like Russia's is inherently incapable of conducting a complex military and political operation to do so, and they ate shit because of it. Anglo Z has no concept of how to actually wage wars and it's why you got tricked month after month after month ever since Feb 2022.
>>2774996I understand making fun of Cucktin and all that but this is just liberal russian derangement syndrome
>>2774998>>Russia defeated multipolarity>nvcvlar trvth bvmbwhich multipolaroid state has been the only one to provide oil to Cuba?
>>2775001
sir what about communism?
>>2775021Great Man theory is wrong. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about my new innovation called Weak Man Theory. Putin being such a mediocre dogshit leader of Russia has significantly weakened Russia below where it might otherwise be with almost any other leader in charge.
>>2775016You are not Iran, you're an useless westerner who is incapable of opposing their own epsteinite government in any way but thinks Russia owes them anything. Iran is on friendly terms with Russia and clearly recognizes Ukraine as a fascist NATO lapdog. And I don't even disagree that Iran is relatively more competent and has played their cards better than Russia.
>>2775030I'm just as useless as you with the massive caveat that you've had four years to enlist and fight for your country, yet here you are still posting after four years of your countrymen being slaughtered every day on the battlefield while you cheer it on. How about you finally just go?
>>2775029this is just liberal theory though, you're stuck in the meme of 'good/bad leaders make the country'
putin is not stupid or ineffective, hes highly inteligent and adept at warmaking and politics - the guy is a career KGB super star, he literally lives for this shit - but hes still just some guy, the material conditions better explain russias current state due to the USSR collapse shock and neo-liberal warhawking replacing it + NATO expansion.
Its literally just the same model the west is using but turned against it.
>>2775027Russia's government doesn't care about communism anymore it's all about stealing Ukranian land now because it was promised to the Tsar 3000 years ago, that's the highest goal and virtue of Russia in the 21st century. Hopefully the communists in Russia get their shit together and revolt so that Russia can be run by smart people again instead of braindead nationalistoids.
>>2775028>Isn't Putin doing just as much nothing as Xi in regards to this whole Iran situation?if only Xi was doing nothing instead of pushing for cuckfires…
>>2775025they don't need a great strategy they can just zerg rush like always
this is the iran thread my guy
>>2775043I tied it back to Iran:
>>2775041 >>2775040>he is retarded enough to believe someone with 30 years in the KGB as its leader is stupidI have a bridge to sell you
>>2775046Putin is highly intelligent but literally everyone else around him with the exception of Lavrov is a straight up fucking moron that makes MAGA cabinet members look like MENSA members. You get the kind of results you deserve with a configuration like that.
>>2775052I dont even like Putin but a fair assessment of him obviously shows hes capable if ideologically poisoned. Anyone who thinks that Putin is the sole reason this conflict is happening needs to shoot the liberal inside your head.
>>2775046He was chosen by Yeltsin because Yeltsin was scared of Lukashenko using the Union State mechanisms to take over Russia and restore the USSR. Putin is simply a low quality leader that the national bourgeoisie rallied around because they didn't want to get expropriated. He possesses no great depths of wisdom or intelligence.
>>2775057I dont think hes any sort of ideological mastermind, his intelligence lies in his craft he came into with the KGB - he is a conflict orientated leader. In a stable Russia he never leads, but one in constant conflict is one he excels at (and it is the game that is to be played, it is liberalism and not unique to Putin)
so iran is just gonna let lebanon burn right
>>2774918
>implying its people falling for it
most traders use automatic AI systems that buy or sell depending on scraped data from news sites. this is why trump continues to lie and it continues to work
>>2775065>but one in constant conflict is one he excels athe is the equivalent to the retarded reformist cucks in Iran bro, his entire plan was to wait until Donald got in office and try to get him into cutting support for ukkkraine, it flopped and he hasn't been able to adapt
no more excuses for cuck warfare
i have not been following this lately but why did Iran accept a ceasefire? they rejected one this weekend and they seemed to be ahead of the $nakes.
Has Iran resumed strikes on Israel?
>>2775078Russia is unambigiously winning the conflict right now put down the crack pipe crimeria and the donbas belong to russia now
If agent Z didnt want this to happen he should have simply not bombed eastern ukraine
>>2775079Dang bro, you missed TACO Tuesday? It was Epic narwhal bacon fury.
>>2775081russia has been winning the war for 4 continuous years now. thats even crazier than trump winning the iran war 3 times then signing a ceasefire
Will we see a greater TACO than what happened this week or does this take the cake?
>>2775081>If agent Z didnt want this to happen he should have simply not bombed eastern ukraineits hilarious that your kneejerk response is to assume im an anti-campist ukraine apologist or whatever, I have supported Russia since day 1, that doesn't mean I'm going to make up delusional excuses for the weakness of the kremlin liberaloids
>>2775091Im fighting against the general lib-ukraine vibe I picked up earlier from someone else but if thats your take its reasonable I agree
I just try to avoid the trap of thinking political leaders are stupid, realizing they go out their way to cultivate these images and narratives is important. I think focusing on the inteligence or psychology of a leader is idpol slop in the place of historical materialism. You see it a lot in liberal analysis of WW2 history where they hyper focus on if Hitler was a covert narc dark psychopath and ignore material and class analysis and shove some libtarded freudian nonsense in its place.
>>2775092
>China pressured them to
sad
>the Orange Migger was threatening to nuke them.
oh yeah, the "destroy a civilization" thing. I heard that one
>>2775097I don't get why people here have supported sides that aren't the proletariat of each country. It's not like revolutionary defeatism would contribute anything since the labor movement in Russia and Ukraine has been a living corpse for a while. I find it very retarded personally.
>>2775097>I just try to avoid the trap of thinking political leaders are stupidYes because if Obama was in power instead of Trump he too would be threatening on social media to drink the blood of Iranians, or would also carry out the hyperintelligent 5D Chess move of tariffing the entire fucking world including island nations.
>>2775067uhhhhhhhh wtf is going on in that last picture? putin just likes sucking on some kid's belly?
>>2775105who sank the jcpoa again
>>2775105And he would have succeeded like he did with Libya because he wouldn't have needlessly alienated all his NATO allies and he would mutter some bullshit about democracy that everyone would eat up. Intelligence matters.
>>2775107Lol google it. Putin supposedly killed a guy over that incident. The boy said he loved it and didn't wash his belly for a week lol.
>>2775079The TACO accepted Eye-ran's 10 point proposal just before his deadline ended.
>>2775110jcpoa was a sham. It's clear in hindsight that its only purpose was to get CIA glowies into Iran to check out all nuclear sites in preparation for a future bombing campaign. The kayfabe between the demonkkkrats and rethuglicans over Trump junking it is all smoke and mirrors. This was always the plan.
>>2775097>I think focusing on the inteligence or psychology of a leader is idpol slop in the place of historical materialism.Thinking the nature of the leadership of a nation-state has some sort to relevance in decision making is not the same as doing great man theory.
Compare how Iran acted when this war started one month ago to how Russia decides to deal with the west, Russia is what Iran would be if there were 0 hardliners and just Pezeshkian types.
>>2775110the Obama deal was a way for the US empire to gather intelligence about Iran's infrastructure for when the inevitable war started, it was part of the imperialist strategy against Iran
fuck off with your democrat apologism
>>2775110The military upper class of the US, the American upper class wanted trump, they got trump - this is the design they wanted. Granted they overstepped and lost, but they always do this.
>>2775112>>2775119it has some relevance for sure but they only get to these positions as a representation of the wider whole of the countries they come up in. You get Trump because trump is America, same with Putin and Russia.
>>2775117This is also what im getting at, people ITT are completely hypnotized by American political theater and hegemony and they completely ignore material analysis.
>>2775117>>2775119zionists bitch and moan about the jcpoa deal bc it was too lenient on iran, inevitably sinking it cuz it had an expiration date and didnt actually solve the 'iran is about to build a nuke' problem. zionists dont want to kick the can down the road and deal with iran in 30 years they want to build Greater Israel right now immediately, so the deal had to go.
>>2775125>zionists bitch and moan about the jcpoa deal bc it was too lenient on iranzionists bitch and moan about anything thats below psychotic levels of jewish supremacism to the point of being self-destructive, that doesn't mean that deal was good for Iran
>>2775126
Actual desert cult
>>2775130no deal was going to be good for iran. what was more important was if it was good enough for israel and their national security, that being getting rid of the enrichment and missile facilities, the deal solved neither so they hated it. the deal was a stall tactic in a world where time is not on israels side. it doesn't matter now I suppose, no doubt american officials are wishing they kept the deal intact at this point
ceasefire status?
>>2775107idk how common this is across cultures but some people "blow raspberries" on children's bellies. it's supposed to be a playful thing. idk if putin is doing the same thing in that pic. usually ti's done to babies or toddlers to make them laugh. usually moms do it.
>>2775141None in Lebanon.
>>2775143that kid is kind of old for it tbh. I'd say Kindergarten is the cut off for a non-relative.
>>2775146Colour me surprised.
>>2775146Unironically correct, trying to excise responsibility for almost a century of consistent foreign policy on ZOG, as if government of world superpower is a helpless puppet of their satelite state.
>>2775145>>2775143>>2775107>Nikita Konkin, who was five years old at the time, recounted his strange encounter with Mr Putin with apparent fondness, reports the MailOnline.
>The image of Mr Putin lifting Nikita’s vest and kissing his bare stomach was published by the late Alexander Litvinenko, who accused Mr Putin of being a paedophile four months before his murder.
>Nikita, now 15, said the kiss was not "ticklish at all"and he "felt something good", and told MailOnline: "I went to him. Putin asked me who I am – and then kissed me. That was it. I was surprised a lot."
>Russia's Izvestia newspaper, which later found Nikita, reported that he had refused to wash after the kiss.
>"I just liked him [Mr Putin] and he liked me very much. I want to be president myself," the boy was quoted by the daily as saying.
>The kiss triggered intense speculation in the Russian and foreign media, with questions being raised about the president's motivation.
>More than 11,000 people asked Mr Putin to explain what prompted his act during the webcast organised by the BBC and Russia's Yandex website.
<"He seemed to me very independent, very serious, but at the same time a boy is always vulnerable. He was very sweet. I'll be honest: I felt an urge to squeeze him like a kitten, and that led to the gesture that I made. There was nothing behind it really," Putin said, smiling. >>2775152Isn't this paedolai lama biting a children tongue all over again?
maybe it is different due to the anti-imperialist character of Putin. imperialists are paedophiles
>>2774842Yeah that doesn't work when the damage Iran inflicts on the imperialists is just as bad or worse than what they've sustained themselves.
>>2775152Oh great. Pedotin is part of the Epstein class. No wonder he loves Trump so much.
>>2775169Wait until you discover that Russia supplies most of Israel's oil
>>2775127Joking about "daddy", but actually most of the questions imply that Trump directly orders NATO and Rutte is just his bitchboy stenographer.
>>2775151>satelite stateisraeli policy is decided in the knesset not d.c
>>2775174There is no politician on earth that deserves more to get hanged then rutte, no joke
>>2775177He does have a very punchable face
>>2775170
>we allowed jews to defile the nation
critical support to anyone who attacks the imperialist settler state
>>2775159AIvestigating will be the transvestigating of the late 2020s.
>>2775174That part was so cringe to listen to. I mean like real cringe, made me feel uncomfortable. I was thinking about clipping it and reposting it.
Is Israel imperialist?
>>2775196>ISRAEL'S LAVI FIGHTER-BOMBER was designed to be one of the deadliest weapons in the air. However, it now has been revealed that after Israel discontinued the largely U.S.-funded project, it sold China the plans for the Lavi and the associated secret U.S. technology. This has enabled the Chinese to build their own version of this new generation of fighter aircraft.no they are anti-imperialist
https://www.wrmea.org/1996-january/u.s.-military-technology-sold-by-israel-to-china-upsets-asian-power-balance.html >>2775186I'm so tired of all these faggots who say shit like:
>Sources:>Report in the US:>Breaking:Faggot list who your fucking source is. Also even when they do list an actual news agency like Reuters, you find what they're saying isn't in the article, yet there will be dozens of these twitter accounts and foreign news websites all repeating it. And even if they didn't misrepresent the original article, they don't fucking link to it. Screw these people.
>>2775202
>phoneposting
>>2775205
lol there are no friends or enemies in politics. just interests
>>2775209And Israel's aren't aligned with America's. They've been playing their hand too much all at once, out in the open, for too many years in a row at this point. They need to lay low for awhile after each backstab to let their propaganda machine trick all the people who aren't paying attention, now too many people know.
>>2775200You know which one grinds my gears.
>BOMBSHELL! >>2775213
What did I say about a conspiracy? I was talking about the documented thing they did in the article I replied to you fucking K word.
>>2775216its a losing strategy since the biggest contradiction between them is america being a status quo power and israel wanting to upend the status quo in favor of itself
>>2775216>They need to lay low for awhile after each backstab to let their propaganda machine trick all the people who aren't paying attention, now too many people know.they can't lay low, they need to go full in. it's what their own deranged society expects, and will vote for, because they're convinced they need to fight wars of expansion constantly "for their own safety". their entire economy has been entirely oriented around war, and they know their window for action is closing quickly as the world sours on israel quickly.
>>2775234
>You can't just assume that America would be exactly the same without the FED, Blackrock, the Neocons, the ADL, AIPAC, Hollywood, ~80% of mainstream media and ~50% of the big tech companies.
America inspired Nazism and Zionism. Not the other way around.
Manifest Destiny and Monroe Doctrine inspired Lebensraum and Greater Israel, not the other way around. The Boer, The Nazi, The Zionist, these are the USA's children, not its parents.
Why do I, a communist, have to endure right wing drivel and persecution on a communist website, he is even accusing me of being a jew.
Make sense of this.
>>2775248Because I want to end class society, duh. Bourg and their right wing guard dogs hate that idea.
Leftcom poster has to be doing a bit right?
>>2775238>le founders were racist<During his life, Franklin had many careers including service as a diplomat, a printer, a writer, an inventor, a scientist, a lawmaker, and a postmaster, among others. In his later years he became vocal as an abolitionist and in 1787 began to serve as President of the Pennsylvania Society for Promoting the Abolition of Slavery. The Society was originally formed April 14, 1775, in Philadelphia, as The Society for the Relief of Free Negroes Unlawfully Held in Bondage; it was reorganized in 1784 and again in 1787, and then incorporated by the state of Pennsylvania in 1789. The Society not only advocated the abolition of slavery, but made efforts to integrate freed slaves into American society.Franklin did not publicly speak out against slavery until very late in his life. As a young man he owned slaves, and he carried advertisements for the sale of slaves in his newspaper, the Pennsylvania Gazette. At the same time, however, he published numerous Quaker pamphlets against slavery and condemned the practice of slavery in his private correspondence. It was after the ratification of the United States Constitution that he became an outspoken opponent of slavery. In 1789 he wrote and published several essays supporting the abolition of slavery and his last public act was to send to Congress a petition on behalf of the Society asking for the abolition of slavery and an end to the slave trade. The petition, signed on February 3, 1790, asked the first Congress, then meeting in New York City, to "devise means for removing the Inconsistency from the Character of the American People," and to "promote mercy and justice toward this distressed Race."
The petition was introduced to the House on February 12 and to the Senate on February 15, 1790. It was immediately denounced by pro-slavery congressmen and sparked a heated debate in both the House and the Senate. The Senate took no action on the petition, and the House referred it to a select committee for further consideration. The committee reported on March 5, 1790 claiming that the Constitution restrains Congress from prohibiting the importation or emancipation of slaves until 1808 and then tabled the petition. On April 17, 1790, just two months later, Franklin died in Philadelphia at the age of 84.
>pointing out some poltard leaked in is trolling
>>2775249You can start by trading in your SUV for a bicycle.
>>2775254>refuting an argument the post didn't makewe notice
>ignoring the argument the post did makewe notice also
>muh franklinyou should've chose Paine if you wanted to use an exceptionally anti-racist founding father, but all this is a distraction from the fact that America is a settler colony founded on genocide and slavery. America inspired Israel and Nazi Germany, not the other way around. That is the core argument, not the legacy of particular founding fathers. You are only dragging out this distraction because the George Washington letter where he mused about whipping his slaves and hanging their dogs triggered you.
>>2775258bikeCHADS won. carcels lost
>why all these people want to cure my infantile disorder
>reee
>>2775264
>Zionism was born in Europe.
in the 1800s, after the success of other European settler colonies in North America, South America, Australia and Africa. i.e. Zionist settler-colonialism in the levant was inspired by the success of previous European settler colonial projects, notably the USA. The USA sells the zionist entity more weapons than all other countries combined, and gives Israel protection, intelligence, etc. Americans could EASILY rise up and stop this since they are the most armed and well fed population on Earth, yet they do not for some reason. The American bourgeois reactionary alt-fascists specifically sit in their houses and cry about Jewish zio-fascists taking over their government, but do nothing about it. It's embarassing. Americans will wait until Weimar tier hyperinflation and the government disarms them to rise up, instead of rising up now while they are armed, their bellies are full, and they have the advantage. It's sad and pathetic.
>>2775268
he confessed to being circumscised in the other thread too
I wonder if that's why France dispatched their aricraft carrier to the "eastern Mediterranean".
https://xcancel.com/IsraeliPM/status/2042271441060557059>Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu:
>"In light of Lebanon's repeated requests to open direct negotiations with Israel, I instructed at the Government meeting yesterday to open direct negotiations with Lebanon as soon as possible.
>1/2The negotiations will focus on the disarmament of Hezbollah and the establishing of peaceful relations between Israel and Lebanon.
>Israel appreciates the call made today by the Prime Minister of Lebanon to demilitarize Beirut.
>2/2>>2775272
>Therefore jews are allowed to do infinity wars, genocide, and child rape
no one said this, you are epstein
>>2775257>Actual communists know the solution to the Burger Occupied Planet is "America Last!"Revolution or nothing.
>>2775272
why are happeningfags this stupid
>>2775272
you always have to make up shit nobody said but anyone else can scroll back up and see you are being a liar. context is easy to discern. you are a time waster. my position is that americans should overthrow their zionist government but i see it as unlikely that will fix the ENTIRE problem since muricans were doing reactionary shit long before they came under zionist influence. make sense? no? gonna make up more retarded shit nobody said? yes? got it.
>>2775279it's a baiting /pol/tard, nothing else to it
>>2775266You've never read Lenin
>>2775268
You are a right winger, just deal with it.
>>2775280>you always have to make up shit nobody said but anyone else can scroll back up and see you are being a liar. context is easy to discern. I think they rely on the fact that most people won't scroll back up. that's why they constantly move goalposts and keep on the offensive. like putting myself in their shoes, if I were a troll, I would do that. That way, anyone who just now came into the thread, all they see is the accusation, and they can join in the dogpile instead of reading the whole conversation. it's a lot easier to mirror the existing tone of the conversation than it is to reverse engineer wtf people are talking about
>>2775244>Why do I, a communist, have to endure right wing drivel and persecution on a communist website, I think this dude just has a mental disorder. I am seen my share of self-obsessed schizos on here but this guy in running for the top spot
>>2775286Lo que usted diga, agente.
>>2775289
>North American anglo-settleroids have no agency, the ZOG has been tricking them since Jamestown 1607… before Cromwell even let DUH JOOZ back into the country.
>>2775291Esquizo de mierda
>>2775288Is there a reason why rightoids cannot be humble and just admit they are wrong ?
>>2775295
> From reading it I can only interpret you believe that the US doesn't have a police/military force or any surveillance/judicial/law-enforcement apparatus of any kind whatsoever.
ok then you accept the agency and willingness and complicity of every single small town pig, lawyer, judge, etc. face it. wipe every fucking jew from the earth and america is still a genocidal settler colony just like israel. why is this so hard to understand? you definitely understand it you're just playing dumb.
>>2775297sunk cost fallacy. they don't want to change their mind after they've invested so much of their life and identity into it
>>2775285I bet you don't waste the same amount of time arguing with people in the left as you should be doing it in right wing spheres, like xitter.
>>2775303scroll up. that's now how the conversation started. the conversation started with anon posting a video with no commentary except for "TKD" (total kaik death) and some burger zio-evangelist preacher blaming the jews for what america is. that's how the conversation started. we responded to HIM by saying americans should stop enabling israel and he kept coping that actually no, fat armed burgers have no power against the almight zog.
>>2775303start here:
>>2775170 >>2775295
>I'm out of words on how to respond to this because it is just so detached from reality. From reading it I can only interpret you believe that the US doesn't have a police/military force or any surveillance/judicial/law-enforcement apparatus of any kind whatsoever. From your perspective you think any group of people can waltz. Do you believe that Mao simply shot the leader of the Kuomintang one day and declared himself the new President of China? Do you think Lenin just walked into the Romanov manor and declared himself the new Tsar?
if a barefoot 16 year old hamas fighter can run out of a ruinous building with an improvised IED, climb onto a zionist tank, and drop it into the hatch, killing every zionist inside, then small town burgers can rise up against their zionist government.
>>2775304Why do you care so much about me lol
>>2775282>>2775308>if a barefoot 16 year old hamas fighter can run out of a ruinous building with an improvised IED, climb onto a zionist tank, and drop it into the hatch, killing every zionist inside, then small town burgers can rise up against their zionist government.this is true, but the key is that burgers won't rise up against their zionist government because the bulk of American gun owners are fat petty bourgeois MIGA boomer, police officers, and veterans of the zionist "war on terror"
>>2775151"Drag" isn't the right word but its not particularly crazy to say that Israel led the US in this war, that Trump was convinced by the Israelis that it would be a quick Venezuela-like operation and that the only reason Biden didn't do it was because he was too woke.
>>2775313>It is trueNo it isn't, that's adventurism, the purest form of it.
>>2775312that reply was meant for the retard nazi who thinks jews are the only problem with america. fuck off
>>2775317what the actual fuck is your problem. you and the poltard are doing a pincer movement on actual reasonable anons while pretending to be on opposite teams.
>>2775317>the bike hater is also a fedProtests are effective when expensive. Destroying military tech is effective protest, not "adventurism"
>>2775310? huh ? every time you appear in each thread, you want to make the thread about you. tf you talkin' 'bout buddy.
>>2775321rare normie social media gem
Now we have to explain to them that the material conditions in Gaza are not the same as in America, and that the actions taken in Gaza that seem reasonable would he foolish and useless in America
All because they've never read Engels.
>>2775327
anon…. americans should do something about it but when i say that you act like they're powerless to ZOG while i argue they're complicit. which rings more true when half the country voluntarily supports MIGA?
>>2775313>zionist governmentit was settled that the US is /pog/, or /pol/ occupied government.
>>2775332i'm arguing against anon by his own logic. learn what steel manning is. learn what immanent critique is.
>>2775338why would you want to make a horse drink?
>>2775337
You tell us what is to be done. ball's in your court.
>>2775339because water is necessary to live
>>2775344
>I honestly don't know.
therein lies our problem. I say Americans have agency to end their complicity and several avenues for real strategic action, you say they are powerless and you don't know what is to be done. That's the source of the disagreement, no?
>>2775338I'll put my bepis into them horse mouth, have them suck it off (for Iran) and drink the resulting cum, no problem.
>>2775337
>700 cases of adventurism
But third worldists just said Americans should drop RPGs inside tanks in America. Were the thread's third worldists wrong again in the understanding of society?
>>2775343yeah but the horse knows that, so if it's not thirsty then it doesn't need water
>>2775321>muh debateliberalism
>>2775350hi Agent Kochinski
>>2775262That was before Ben Franklin had his come to jesus moment in his later decades. I'll admit that he was an awful racist early on but he did what he could to rectify past mistakes towards the end of his life, something very few racists ever do.
>>2775328ZOG= Zionist Occupied Government?
>>2775278Americans won't have a revolution until America is in Last place. Russian peasants had a significantly lower quality of life and it took WW1, millions drafted, hundreds of thousands dead in the trenches, starvation on the homefront, and being on the backpedal against Germany for the revolution to break out.
>>2775359yes but the post was a joke if you didn't realize
>topic of Westerns doing something comes up
>"oh yeah? what? tell me what to do!"
>on a revolutionary left-wing imageboard
>[pretty much everything that can be said is illegal in the West]
Hmm…
>>2775352>But third worldists just said Americans should drop RPGs inside tanks in America. are you stupid. the IED example was given not literally but figuratively. there's an actual video of a teenage hamas fighter who literally has no shoes on walking right up to an israeli tank and dropping an IED inside. the point is, if starving palestinians living in literal rubble can fight back, then so can americans. it doesn't mean mirror that exact action. the supply chains providing israel from america are demonstrably weak. the genocide could end easily if the 100 million adult able bodied american workers put their minds to it.
>>2775363But isn't all crypto pretty much traceable?
>>2775369most of the shit lenin was doing that was illegal is legal now, like agitation and openly calling for revolution
>>2775369Wouldn't it be funny, if it's just glowies fishing for screenshots.
>>2775358
a critical mass of people doesn't even need to be a majority. bolsheviks won the civil war with a party of only about a million people, in a country of 150 million people. Not even 1 percent of the population. despite being a tiny minority, the Bolsheviks were highly organized and strategically positioned, which mattered far more than raw numbers.
>>2775372could very well be. but i find things rarely go to trial unless you made the post on clearnet with your name and face attached. the namefag houdini threatened the poopy pants gun girl e-celeb and is facing up to 15 years in jail. but most shitposters never so much as get a knock on the door.
>>2775369how about no messiahs? yeh? how about that?
>>2775370The article is written by a moron. Traceable yes (by design), confiscateable no (just don't store it in a public exchange)
>>2775365>then so can americansAre you stupid? Do you understand this argument can be applied to every proletariat in the world? Do you believe revolution is when we all hold hands and take down the bourgeoisie?
>>2775371>most of the shit lenin was doing that was illegal is legal now, like agitation and openly calling for revolutionanon… surely you don't think that was the
only thing the bolsheviks were doing?
>>2775379>Are you stupid? Do you understand this argument can be applied to every proletariat in the world?yes. do i have to explicitly say so in every single post to stop you from having a conniption?
>>2775380see this is exactly my point, lenin ended up burning the marked bills because they were worthless and it only cost 40 innocent lives. the bolsheviks then condemned shit like this from happening again. waste of time
>>2775382not all illegal activity is pointless because that specific thing fucked up. like let me give a counter example. taft hartley made legal strikes ineffective in the USA by outlawing basically all effective tactics. for strikes to become effective again, workers would need to embrace illegal tactics.
>>2775381And yet when every proletariat in the world, including Americans, decide to take action against the bourgeoisie, communists are always impresioned and dissappeared and this extend to their faimilies. The revolution must happen with state power, we need to appropiate the state apparatus and use it's force against the bourgeoisie, this at the same time means doing away with capitalist power by increasing capital's own contradictions.
>>2775376>i agree with lenin on points A, B, C<oh so he's your hecking messiahi hate when you losers do this so fucking mmuch
>>2775362>>on a revolutionary left-wing imageboardthis is a social-democrat website, any position to the left of social-democracy here gets called either "ultra" or "third wordist" and can get you banned
>>2775386don't need to see his face, or read his name. Don't care that he said it, as long as it's true it should speak for itself.
>>2775385like i don't understand why you're on my case in the first place. nazi retard showed up with his TKD video and my only point was americans are complicit rather than mind controlled by jews. you were arguing against that very same poltard anon but now you're fighting me instead of him. get off my nuts.
>>2775387that's an exaggerated description of a real problem
>>2775388> as long as it's true it should speak for itself.i linked an audiobook to let it speak for itself you fucking idiot
>>2775389>that's an exaggerated descriptionif you only knew how bad things really are
>>2775388because otherwise mr bookwanker will just become the next elite group after the revolution, wont they.
>>2775391i've never been banned for third worldism even when i say americans are complicit, etc. the anons who do get banned for that shit are usually pairing it with derailing, trolling, pointless aggression towards anons who mostly agree with them, etc.
>>2775394oh muh garsh, do you even read lenin?
I read lenin
I've read all of lenin
>>2775396oh boy, finally we are back to the topic ITT.
so, what's the cheetos man saying now?
>>2775400
Lmao he spittin
>>2775396They are capitulating to be honest, ceasefire already went south. They really hoping to squeeze something out of this? Just hang those reformist cucks and glass tel aviv
>>2775417
The genocide continues uninterrupted. Iran must act.
>>2775419Is it possible for Israel to exist without genocide?
What if every man and child-soldier of the settlers were disarmed?
>>2775424>No, Israel is a settler colonial projectso is the entire New World. lets do to israel what was done to south africa, turn it into a bi-national state (which would destroy the Zionist idea of jewish supremacy) and take away their nukes. easy
>>2775426This would only be do if israel lost a major war or had internal collapse. Fascist states don't just give up man
>>2775426No they should go the way of Rhodesia.
>>2775428>israel lost a major warthe likeliest option. turkey is gonna squash them once unleashed by nato
>>2775424Are there even enough Jews in the world to fill up that space?
>>2775029>Great Man theory is wrong. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about my new innovation called Weak Man Theory.Marx beat you to it
<Of the writings dealing with the same subject at approximately the same time as mine, only two deserve notice: Victor Hugo’s Napoleon le Petit and Proudhon’s Coup d’Etat. Victor Hugo confines himself to bitter and witty invective against the responsible producer of the coup d’etat. The event itself appears in his work like a bolt from the blue. He sees in it only the violent act of a single individual. He does not notice that he makes this individual great instead of little by ascribing to him a personal power of initiative unparalleled in world history. Proudhon, for his part, seeks to represent the coup d’etat as the result of an antecedent historical development. Inadvertently, however, his historical construction of the coup d’etat becomes a historical apologia for its hero. Thus he falls into the error of our so-called objective historians. I, on the contrary, demonstrate how the class struggle in France created circumstances and relationships that made it possible for a grotesque mediocrity to play a hero’s part.https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1852/18th-brumaire/preface.htm >>2775432They don't need to fill it up. There just needs to be enough of them to manage their muslim slaves.
>>2775432no but they are desperate enough to steal sperm from dead idf soliders so its not out of the realm of possiblity.
>>2775431I don't even think israel is retarded enough to go against turkey
>>2775432the haredim are one of the few ethnic groups in the world with high fertility rates
>>2775432I guess the plan would be to breed. Or may be they would accept slaves or have servile nationalities, just like the white European ashkenazi are now at the bottom and the black jews and arabs are at the bottom of the Israeli society foodchain. They would just scale that up.
>>2775437netanyahu and naftali bennet have said publicly turkey is next after iran
>>2775442
Based neets
>>2775434
The Talmud is not scriptural canon and rejected by the majority of Reform and Reconstructionist Jews…
>>2775438I thought the Haredi were the anti-zionist Jews with the big hats that you see IDF and Police beating up at protests in Israel
>>2775448Not all of them are anti-zionist and only a small minority is vocal about it Neturei Karta style. They mostly protest against having to serve in the military
>>2775448depends. Those neturei karta guys you see at the protests with the Palestine flags are a minority of a minority. Others are quietly hostile to the state, more accurately, would be 'non-zionist' but they do run politicians and mayors so they can represent their interests in the government and extract the maximum possible gibs for the community. You also do have some nationalist haredi like those that serve in the Netzah Yehuda battalion.
>>2775448they just wanna chill and study the torah. bibis likud party represents some of their leaders interests which is why they havent been drafted yet despite attempts to
>>2775448This a bit of a myth. There are some sects that are anti-zionist but most are either neutral or pro-zionist.
All of them want to keep their gibs and exclusion from conscription, though.
The Haredi are probably going to want more gibs if they serve. Maybe they'll collapse the state either way.
>>2775447Who's actually controlling the Israeli government right now though?
>>2775448Aren't they also the jews who loathe modern Hebrew and see it as blasphemous and insult to old-Hebrew which they see as too holy for common use.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cge0xre3d27oNo no no no no Hezbros it wasn’t supposed to be like this.
>>2775308Making the obese leftcoms with CHF (hence why the need to sit in a recliner all day) seethe with this post
>>2775244lol you're no communist, you're a fucking glowie, kys
>>2775464hezbollah is only a small part of Lebanese government, Israel owns and supports the rest and they want the military wing of hezbollah destroyed.
>>2775466And there is no snowball chance in hell Israel will keep going and US withdraws on any front Iran or Lebanon. They are rearming as we speak.
>>2775420
I mean if you get enough money you can buy yourself a little boat and a few drones and go camp somewhere in the levant or the mediterraneanism and do it as a mercenary or for free
>>2775474
>"the economy"
if it makes it harder for the rich to afford their yachts, I'm all for it
>>2775426the struggle against settler colonialism in the South Africa, Australia, and the New World still hasn't ended. Just because settler colonial regimes in those areas implemented reforms
after they had genocided the vast majority of indigenous doesn't mean those states are truly "bi national". If such reforms were implemented in Israel you would see similar results: Palestinians confined to ghetto reservations like indigenous Americans in the USA.
>>2775488lol this sound like fabrication after the fact, it doesn't matter anyway, countries in europe are being slowly peeled away and normalizing relations with iran. the more the war prolongs, the more iran attracts more countries into its orbit. it's joever for the burgeroids, either they accept the deal or they watch the entire geopolitical scaffolding basically melt in their hands.
>>2775488Pakistan can't be this fucking stupid surely. It has to be scapegoating.
>>2775490>can automatically register people to die for Israel but not vote or file taxesbruh
>>2775493it's scapegoating, reportedly trumped changed his mind about lebanon after a phone call with bibi
>>2775494We're just cannon fodder and cattle for the elite.
>>2775495and people are still arguing that Israel isn't calling the shots
>>2775503
the US can't "stall for time", each day without oil compounds the economic damage.
>>2775482native americans have been assimilated. palestinians will never be accepted by the jewish ethnostate
>>2775503
if america wanted to escelate they'd be seizing iranian tankers and iranian oil crossing the strait (this will never happen)
>>2775520They wanted Iran demolished.
>>2775532The art of the deal
>>2775532lmao makes sense now why china pushed iran to accept it
>>2775535is there a non-US source for this even happening?
OPEN THE FUCKIN STRAIT
>>2775551
This is certainly a time where a lot of people in the know want to blab, want to do it anonymously, but anonymous sources are completely worthless.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-war-kuwait-drone-attack-survivors-us-army/>Survivors of the deadliest Iranian attack on U.S. forces since the war began have disputed the Pentagon's description of events and said their unit in Kuwait was left dangerously exposed when six service members were killed and more than 20 wounded.THANK YOU FOR YOUR INATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
>>2775327
>Same feeling here.
just like him, you either or lying, or didn't read the conversation which started here >>2775170
>>2775557
Would anything have happened if he did die? Or would Belgium have cucked out?
>>2775557
What a cuck
>>2775563Four Americans died in Benghazi and we never stopped hearing about it, and yet this is going to disappear from the news by tomorrow
>>2775568every burger reich troop has it coming for volunteering to die for israel when the benefits aren't even that good and "muh poverty draft" rings hollow. 93% of burgers never join the military, including most impoverished burgers, yet the 7% who do want you to believe they were forced to by being poor, and that they had no other choice than to go halfway across the world to drone strike children for the bourgeoisie
>>2775571to be fair you can stretch that 7% to include everyone involved in the war economy, that trillion dollars is going somewhere - and I would argue they are all also complicit
>>2775571Some people are irresponsible to the extent that they are completely brainwashed from birth to 16 y/o at an age they can get in the military. In the US they make kids pledge allegiance to the nation everyday in school to build up their chauvinism and every war movie or show celebrates the US military as a force of good in some way.
>b-b-but they have free willliberalism
>>2775574But that's a problem, if I am an engineer I want to work on something. Not sit back doing nothing…
>>2775580>REMEMBER GREENLAND, THAT BIG, POORLY RUN, PIECE OF ICE!!!???
Did I miss the propaganda campaign about Greenland being poorly run? Or has it gotten to the point where you're just supposed to believe it because Trump says it off the cuff?
Rightoids can't even do agitprop properly anymore.
>>2775565>Would anything have happened if he did die?Israel would have spun the hasbara machine into action. They would make some statements how Israel has the right to defend itself, but that his death was regrettable. They would also remind everyone that IDF is the most moral army and only strikes terrorists and every time tries to minimize civilian loss of life and anybody who suggests otherwise is an antisemite.
>Or would Belgium have cucked out?Belgium would do jack.
>>2775580I wonder if there's any chance a legitimate fifth column is marinating within the US gov. Maybe not necessarily acting on behalf of Russia/China/etc. but definitely so done with Trump that they would be willing to carry out a military coup against him.
>>2775517
Why is Israel attacking Beirut? I know Iran is because there’s a bunch of U.S military assets and base there.
>Rome has a right to defend itself!
>*gets bigger*
>Israel has a right to defend itself!
>*gets bigger*
>>2775595that's why Hegseth has been purging so many generals
missile alerts just started going off in Tel Aviv & Central Israel. we're back
>>2775602>that's why Hegseth has been purging so many generalsThat was more likely because The actual military men were not going along with Trump/hegseth line of PR/vibes based offensive plans.
My money is on the theory in which Trump wanted to do the operation to steal Iran's uranium, to get out of the war. The generals said it was retarded, so they were let go. Then they did the operation anyway and lost about a dozen planes which was marketed as the successful F-15 pilot rescue by special forces, which ended into US blowing up it's own planes.
Sirens heard in Tel Aviv
>>2775608It's Hezbollah, not Iran.
How retarded do you have to be to think that Israel a tiny nation in the Middle East is somehow controlling the us fucking chuds man…
Let's say hypothetically that Stupid Dump succeeds in overthrowing the Iranian government. Do you think he'd be chill with Women Life Freedom or would he coup them too and undo everything they actually fought for
>>2775665He would establish a monarchy that would immediately go into a civil war he just wants irans resources
>>2775620great shitian was a small island that controlled 1/3 of the globe
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