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>>2771934CEASEFIRE EDITIONiRANians betrayed the international proletariat and will allow AmeriKKKan unipolarity world order to remain unchanged as long as it doesn't threat the profits of Iranian oil companies and the """"people's"""" reCUCKblic of Ch¥na
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>iRANian porkies WON>Gulf Porkies WON>Ch¥nese Porkies WON<The international proletariat LOST>>2772809Won't the stronger Iranian economy help the Iranian proletariat?
Oh, I, I just died in your arms tonight
It must have been something you said
wouldn't izioreal falling mean there would be more rabbis around to eat my foreskin?
>>2772792>is that actually a part of the deal?We don't actually know anything, both sides are claiming to have won and their demands be implemented. Obviously the USA isn't leaving MENA, paying reparations to Iran for the full damage and lifting all the sanctions. Nor is the straight of Hormuz going to remain unconditionally open, nor is Israel going to stop invading Lebanon or any of the ridiculous things being tossed around.
The only thing that's clear is that: The situation remains more or less the same as it is now, but a ceasefire is in effect for two weeks until *someone* (take a guess) decides it's not.
Which IMO only favors NATO militarily (they get to regroup, while Iran's damage stays) and porkies all around. Not the least because toll or no toll, the prospect of moving those ships stranded in the gulf removes the threat of total liability for insurers after some months and relaxes the markets.
Now Oil is dropping hard, insurance premiums will follow, and NATO Israel can go back at it refreshed, at their leisure. With Iran's leverage greatly diminished.
I mean, fuck at this rate I may be dooming. But I half expect NATO to begin advancing that "peacetime" Hormuz task force all the Eurocucks acceded to where France, UK and the US park their ships right there next to Oman/Pakistan and wait for Israel to give the signal.
the ziopiggy is still seething from last thread LOL
>>2772809iRAN,
iRAN, SO FAR AWAYYY!
>>2772822It seems naive to expect neither side to try and rearm as much as possible given the time frame.
>>2772818Lifted sanctions and higher government revenue aren't the same as tax cuts for the rich bruh
>>2772822>it's full of Israelis crying about Trump cucking out. Because they didn't get the memo that Trump is running another con on Iran. It's irrational pessimism.
>Then I come here and see people crying that Iran cucked out.Because we have bitter recollection that Iran tends to be a willing mark for Trump's cons and eases the pressure long before America feels any pain. It's rational pessimism. :(
I would rather be the sulking Israelis, tbh, moral qualms aside.
>>2772825>and NATO Israel can go back at it refreshed, at their leisureThat seems like an overstatement. Nato's military losses involve a lot of expensive and irreplaceable equipment. There's no way they can "refresh" in just two weeks, even if they have to raid the cupboards of vassals to do so.
>>2772833the workers of the world
>>2772833We will find out in 2 weeks.
>>2772833It's too early to tell either way, but currently Iran is in the superior position.
>>2772833Iran won for now.
Literally only Iran benefited from this, went back to the status quo except Iran gets extra revenue and lifted sanctions.
We'll see how long until Israel ruins it.
The Leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei, ordered the rocket units of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) to cease fire.
Apple. Tree. Ugh.
>>2772825>I mean, fuck at this rate I may be dooming. But I half expect NATO to begin advancing that "peacetime" Hormuz task force all the Eurocucks acceded to where France, UK and the US park their ships right there next to Oman/Pakistan and wait for Israel to give the signal.The signal for what? The signal for Iran to reclose the strait and sink any ship dumb enough to try to cross it?
You're acting like Iran is the one with its back to the wall here when Nato just spent a month burning through priceless military equipment that is years away from being replaced at best. We've seen this for years with the Ukraine war. Nato has a production problem that it is constitutionally incapable of solving. The best they can do at this point is move preexisting assets into the region to try another go, but nothing they have is going to change the calculus of fighting Iran.
Calling it now: Israel will keep striking Iran, and Iran, under the advice of its "allies," won't strike back, because striking back will "give them what they want" and "undermine the peace efforts."
>>2772843nothing will happen, back to case one, the war is just temporarily postponed
>>2772847they won't do that lol they will just go back to tit-for-tat
Iran has all the leverage here
>>2772846Back into the cuck pit, Brown Squidward!
>>2772846He should be crowned the King of Limbo.
>>2772842It became grim once Iran started letting French tankers pass through Hormuz. The idea of making Hormuz bux became more compelling than the idea of knifing the American economy.
>>2772850>Iran has all the leverage hereThat does seem to be the case. I don't know why there are people acting like Iran is the one "accepting the ceasefire" when it's the US that is obviously on the back foot. If the US had the ability to end Iran then they'd be doing it. All Iran is doing (rightly or wrongly) is not kicking them when they're down.
>>2772825>and NATO Israel can go back at it refreshedIn a few weeks of fighting the US expended like 10 years worth of munitions production, not to mention stuff like their THAAD radars which will take years to rebuild. They will not be "refreshed" so soon.
>>2772855Iran is letting Trump off the hook. If he rebounds in the US midterms, he'll just be encouraged to go in for round 3, especially since Americans didn't feel enough economic and since neither Trump nor anyone close to him paid the price.
>>2772855yeah, imagine shilling for this shit and now you have to do a 180.
And probably do another 180, when the next backstab comes >>2772863 (me)
>enough economicenough economic pain*
Looks like everything is winding up and the skies look clear. I saw that some settlers in the West Bank were cursing America, trump and demanding mossad release the full Epstein files lol lol
can't believe I'm gonna have to kill myself instead of the nukes doing it for me
>>2772871treatlerites can't even kill themselves they have to outsource the labor to the third world
FUCK. All the price hikes are gonna be permanent now too.
>>2772874Guessing they will ease into this the upcoming weeks since they don't trust Amerikkka
>>2772876the house always wins
>>2772874I fucking knew this was all bullshit market manipulation
>>2772845what do you think Iran gets out of this?
Sanction relief? No, even if the US accepted a significant relaxation of sanctions, which they wont. It would last exactly and precisely until such time as NATO is ready to go harder again.
Control of Hormuz? They already had that. And the value of this asset had only grown with the built up pressure of insurance premiums, stranded ships and paralyzed exports which incur greater losses with time from uncertainty, lost contracts and having to shut down operations because the storage fills up. Now that pressure is gone.
Toll money? For what fucking purpose. It's peanuts compared with the money they would get form continuing ot export their own oil at the inflated prices before the ceasefire. And it's fucking worthless on a timeframe of two weeks, before NATO starts the war again, if they even wait so long.
Reparations? Fat chance.
Stopping the wars? So fucking what? for two weeks? They get to stop while Hezbollah remains sieged and NATO prepares to enforce their disarmament. It's two weeks for Israel to regroup.
The only mild advantage I can see Iran could get from this was if they were able to pass it through the UNSC that they and Oman control Hormuz legitimately. And if the Israeli and gulf populations became too invested in peacetime to resume hostilities at NATO's convenience. Neither of which will ever happen.
In however long it takes NATO to decide they are ready to war again, you'll be cursing the perfidious westoid like a thrice fooled fool.
>>2772874I'm thinking other world leaders will soon visit Iran to iron out the kinks.
lmao, Trump is obviously just trying to con Iran yet again but doesn't know how to reveal that he's simply telling Iran what it wants to hear, so Israel and CNN are having meltdowns about his 'weakness'.
>>2772881And what are the imperialists getting out of it?
>>2772874>Iran will get 73-87 billion per year and 6-8 countries as puppets for nothingI don't believe for a second that this ceasefire will hold, nevermind negotiations will succeeding.
>>2772871At least do something good for the world when doing it
>>2772881>Now that pressure is gone.What on Earth are you talking about? Nothing has changed. They haven't even settled on a date to begin negotiations. You're acting like Iran is handing the keys to Tehran over to Trump. Get a grip.
>>2772884If he was smart he'd con Israel and leave them to fend for themselves but I have a feeling he can't do that.
>>2772886>And what are the imperialists getting out of it?Resetting the economic attrition of the conflict while keeping the military part roughly the same. Given that the former is Iran's biggest leverage, a great deal.
>>2772886Time to regroup and negotiating power.
Idk why iran thought it was a good idea doing this unless trump was literally gonna nuke them, or the US threaten some chemical/nerve attack, though i find that even more unlikely.
>>2772894>but by doing that they trigger total desalination plant destruction in Israel. Will they risk that?Probably not because that pretty much hands Netanyahu's psychos a green light to let fly with nuclear weapons.
>>2772903Why doesn't hezbolia just do it then?
>>2772896Pretty sure it's Friday
The Iranian flag of Nothing Ever Happens has been raised
>>2772863I genuinely don’t see how Trump remotely rebounds in the midterms unless something absurd happens like Americans get $2000 checks a month every month till midterms
>>2772899>Resetting the economic attrition of the conflict Only a handful of ships will be allowed to pass with the approval of the Iranians, and they can close it again at any time. Plus all the energy infrastructure they smashed in the Gulf won't be repaired within two weeks.
>>2772902>Time to regroup and negotiating power.Time to regroup won't amount to much since most of the munitions expended and infrastructure destroyed will take years to replace.
>>2772899>Resetting the economic attrition of the conflict How? The infrastructural damage will take months or years to fix and the actual production facilities like those in Qatar, even assuming they started today, will take months to get back online, much less return to full production. That's aside from the fact that we don't know what is even happening at this point. CNN is reporting that Tel Aviv is
still getting hit by missiles.
For all we know this "ceasefire" is just a canard to let Trump back off his threat of geniciding Iran.
>>2772909The thing you have to realize is that Trump is a old evil boomer that is already on the way out.
He doesn't care that its gonna take years, unless he gets away with third term (and doesn't die).
Iran does not win in anyway, either this is a nothing ever happens but the republicans hold a even harder hate boner and tries this again, or iran losses.
>>2772904These same lunatics have been calling for nuking Gaza so I don't think proximity is necessarily a protection from getting nuked.
>>2772909Those military installations are gone, they won't be rebuilt at least.
did pete say anything important?
Who won the war?
2 weeks would also give Iran time to prepare and beef up an even stronger and more resilient counterattack, maybe even amass a bunch of equipment from China to help out too. If Iran cucked out and received nothing from this ceasefire then I would say it's a bad idea but they are getting almost everything they asked for in the meantime of those 2 weeks. Why are people so cynical right now?
>>2772905Maybe? CNN is acting like it hasn't been decided yet.
Hell, you've got people itt parroting the "joint oman-iran toll booth" shit with nothing more than the word of an anonymous "regional official." People need to chill out until we actually know what the fuck is happening.
>>2772923US nuked Iran 35 minutes ago.
>>2772908>>2772863The midterms literally don't matter. Stop falling for political pundit memes.
The Dems were already were projected to win the House since last year. It doesn't matter what kind of margin they get in the House because they won't get a veto proof majority in the Senate which means Trump can veto anything they pass.
>>2772922Reported for zionism. Kys, Shlomo
>>2772926It's not like the Dems have any problems with Trump's foreign policy anyway. If anything they'll just double down on the war just to prove that they can do it better.
>>2772929
>soybooru
Man that's really embarrassing for you.
>>2772926So nothing gets done and Amerikkka is less united than ever. Pretty cool.
>>2772933there are soyjaks on half the threads on here you're the one stealing our kulchur or something along those lines
>>2772913>Iran does not win in anywayIf they get their 10 point plan then they absolutely will. They'll retain their missile and nuclear programs and the Axis of Resistance, plus get sanctions relief, tolls from Hormuz to the tune of billions every month, and a collapse of US credibility and reputation.
>>2772935>>2772932Kys, shlomo
>>2772935You should feel really embarrassed for a lot of reasons.
>>2772841But what about the Arak soviet?
>>2772935Your culture is our costume now sweetie now, xher majesty Xi Jinping exprolapsed soy from the sharty and handed it to us, I'm afraid.
I'll just say this:
Remember when you were coping about Hamas' master negotiation? How they had "tricked" the USA/Israel into agreeing to a ceasefire and all the rest without technically conceding disarmament?
Remember how you thought it was a win because Israel would totally abide by the ceasefire? And stop starving Gaza? and let the basic necessities like shelter, medicine and fuel in?
Remember how Israel was spent back then? How they'd have to withdraw from Gaza and let everyone in and out? How the flotillas had "worked"?
Huff that hopium hard, it may last you the whole two weeks.
>>2772937>If they get their 10 point plan then they absolutely will. They'll retain their missile and nuclear programs and the Axis of Resistance, plus get sanctions relief, tolls from Hormuz to the tune of billions every month, and a collapse of US credibility and reputation.That would be pretty incredible. Let's hope it happens.
I have a feeling it won't though, for a variety of reasons, but at the very least because any one of Iran's 10 points represents a pretty significant defeat for Nato, and I don't think the yankee ruling class have the ideological capacity to withstand a loss like this.
>>2772944I can just… change my flag. Do leftycucks really?
>>2772946Proving the right won the culture war btw, kys transhumanist ywnbaw
>>2772949diaper don diddles daddyahu dingleberries daily I'm afraid so you're retarded o algo ←———-factual post
>>2772947Remember when people here where losing their shit because they heard Barak Ravid or whatever report that iran had already ran out of missiles and that the war was lost like 2 weeks in?
>>2772949>>2772951Israel is a white country
>>2772947Pretty sure there are some big differences between Iran and Hamas when it comes to capabilities, also, Israel STILL hasn't been able to take full control of Gaza even now.
Iran is barraging uae, bahrain, and israel, btw.
>>2772929>>2772922sharteens are mentally ill and are incapable of using language like an adult so they just spam their schizo diarrhea scribbles that not even their loving mothers would pin to the fridge
>>2772957Those guys just have the phones turned off since they interfere with targeting and they'll get he ceasefire message at the end of their shift.
>Ynet correspondent: What a shame and disgrace that Israel is abandoning the residents of the north and sacrificing them on the altar of a ceasefire with Iran. What a disgrace.
>>2772948I don't think the Yankee ruling class was too keen on this war to begin with. There's a reason why the US never actually went to war with them until the current crop of retards got into power. Sensible and competent agents of the empire knew it was a foolish endeavour that would fail.
so, the US accepted Iran's 10 points on the premise?
>>2772958o' my prolapse these heckin leftychuds just can't stand a powerful jewish man o algo they should just listen and learn I'm afraid
>>2772970uhm sweetie daddyahu is a jewish blacked queen xhe deserves to have success (yasss!) you're a heckin chud who hates ziodaddies and that's le bad o algo because… because it just is okay??? ←-factual post
>>2772968Iranians are lured again, aren't they? who's the guarantor? Pakistan?
Pakistan can't guarantee shit.
>>2772968Vill the Eurocucks really pay the toll to burn the coal? And why does Oman get the other half?
>we will bomb Iran and Euros will pay for itNot bad Mr. Trump
>>2772968Well, according to
Barry with NED, recount:
>Fars: Details of the 10-Point Proposal by the Islamic Republic of Iran
>A knowledgeable source, in an interview with Fars reporter, explained the details of the 10-point proposal by the Islamic Republic of Iran, which has been accepted as the basis for a ceasefire agreement. According to Fars, this plan, which sets the final framework for stopping the conflicts, includes provisions whose main points are as follows:
>Complete cessation of any aggression against Iran and allied resistance groups.
>Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region, prohibition of any attacks from bases against Iran, and refraining from adopting a combat posture.
>Limited daily passage of ships through the Strait of Hormuz for two weeks, under the title of a safe passage protocol supervised and regulated by this country.
>Cancellation of all primary, secondary, and United Nations sanctions. Compensation for Iran’s damages through the establishment of an investment and financial fund.
>Iran’s commitment not to develop nuclear weapons. U.S. acceptance of Iran’s right to enrichment and negotiation on the level of enrichment.
>Iran’s agreement to negotiate bilateral and multilateral peace treaties with regional countries in line with its interests.
>Extension of non-aggression to all aggressors against all resistance groups.
>Termination of all resolutions of the Board of Governors and the Security Council and approval of all commitments in an official United Nations resolution.
>This knowledgeable source emphasized that Iran had previously rejected the U.S. 15-point plan and made any ceasefire conditional on the acceptance of its own proposed plan and the official approval of Trump for this plan, which Trump officially accepted the 10-point plan of Iran.if trump accepts these things, total neocon on every platform in the US.
if trump doesn't, Iranians need to guillotine Aragchi and Pezeshkian.
>>2772978>total neocon on every platform in the US.total neocon meltdown*
>>2772962>I don't think the Yankee ruling class was too keen on this war to begin with. There's a reason why the US never actually went to war with them until the current crop of retards got into power. Sensible and competent agents of the empire knew it was a foolish endeavour that would fail.It's been on the agenda since the 90s, and yeah, sensible appraisals should have told them that their chances were minimal at best, but I don't think that really matters. Destroying Iran is a lot like destroying Russia. It's the sine qua non of American hegemony. The US can't maintain its position as an arbitrary world superpower if it's faced with competing and arguably more powerful states such as China. Iran as it currently exists MUST be destroyed, because the status quo that the US relies on can't continue otherwise, as this conflict pretty definitively proves.
>>2772854> The idea of making Hormuz bux became more compelling than the idea of knifing the American economy.the wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails presents itself as an immense accumulation of commodities…. or in the case of a strait, an immense flow of commodities…..
lol this is dumb
>>2772980I don't think Iran needed to be destroyed to bring it into the fold of US imperialism. Obama probably came closer to succeeding in this endeavour than any other president. Iran could have easily been a second Egypt.
>>2772989Strait tolls are expected to be paid in renminbi. The petro dollar is in the process of being shanked.
>>2772943i thought polfags and shartyfags were ZOG-hating nazis? when did they become pro israel? is it just contrarianism and edgelord baiting all along?
please don't educate me about how zionism and nazism are both eurocuck ethnonationalism, or the havaara agreement, i'm already aware >>2772992Perhaps, but I think the subsequent admins' nixing that agreement signals a shift in that regard. More important than bringing Iran into the fold is denying China vital resources, which considering the targeting of Iran, Venezuela, and Russia seems to be the current strategic priority.
>>2772996they will go back to the dollar. the PRC doesn't actually want the petrodollar system to go away
>>2772978I agree, but misery loves company so let me add to the blackpill. If Iran looses control over Hormuz and lets ships pass during these two weeks, the economic pressure greatly diminishes, immediately.
However, anything on that list, on the USA's part, is either easy to reverse or would take longer to implement that the two weeks. Imagine how long the sanctions stuff would take just to get past congress. And certainly, there is no fucking way that anything agreed here is honored by the next US admin.
Doubly so after the midterms.
If we are to humor that this will last for even two weeks or be honored at all.
>>2773002>I agree, but misery loves company so let me add to the blackpill. If Iran looses control over Hormuz and lets ships pass during these two weeks, the economic pressure greatly diminishes, immediately.Yeah, you keep saying that even though it doesn't make any sense. It might relieve some pressure just by letting the ships trapped in the gulf out, but the actual facilities and infrastructure needed to fill them are months or years away from being repaired and restarted.
>>2772991pencilCUCK can't even begin to fathom the greatness of aiGODS
>>2773001Maybe not since the petrodollar has brought a lot of economic problems to those involved, but it's unlikely that iran went ahead with this without their knowledge or consent.
>>2772998i'm pro whatever country bombs the most shitskins
>>2773002>However, anything on that list, on the USA's part, is either easy to reverseSo would opening the strait. Iran isn't giving anything anything up here that they can't take back within minutes if they wanted to. If anything this war has removed the taboo around the closing of the strait, and the collection of the tolls would mean global recognition of Iran's de facto right to do so whenever they choose.
>>2773019>he existed before he was a memeby this logic he's been a meme since he was born in 1969
IRAN WAR THREAD
IRAN JUST WON EDITION
crazy that pepe and normal wojaks became fucking irrelevant so gradually nobody noticed
>>2773000Biden didn't renegotiate JCPOA because the cracks within the ayatollah regime were starting to show, it was only a matter before the Iranian currency crisis, the fast secularization of Iranians, Kurdish guerillas, etc would pile up. Israel was already financing terrorists within Iran and it was a matter of keeping up the ante until the Iranian higher-ups would get so paranoid, they would start cracking down hard on protesters until "liberation" was in the cards. The US has always wanted an Iran invasion no doubt but not this one.
>>2773021His project started in 2015. By your logic Kojima didn't make a game until 1998.
>>2772980I think the thing is that while the ruling class obviously wants to destroy Iran (and Russia, and China but that’s more complicated) it wants to do it in a minimal pain way. Like if Iran is defeated but we use up huge stores of our military resources then it means China or Russia or maybe even some other actors can cause greater geopolitical pain that undermines American hegemony.
The way I see it the geopolitical chessboard is set up in such a way that movement on Iran opens some gaping flaws in America’s defense elsewhere.
I think Trump in particular is the worst President for this kind of conflict because I think when it comes to the complexities of geopolitics he waffles. Which isn’t to say he’s “soft” but rather he has no stamina. He sees things like a TV show host and he’d much rather be talking about his ballroom than a war that he isn’t decisively winning—that makes for worse TV
>>2773025aiding me in derailing the thread award
>>2773002> is either easy to reverse or would take longer to implement that the two weekstrump can't force a treaty, and only a treaty can give Iran all what they want, and the treaty must give some legal pressure valve to Iran where they can directly prosecute us officials that violate the treaty.
>>2773029theres nothing going I fear
https://x.com/i/status/2041652958652219419If this is real this is big (it isn't real i bet).
>>2772932
This one is kinda funny actually
Raid
so no impeachment?
thank you, you useless, spineless, islamist dogs for showing trump that threatening to bomb your incompetent shithole of a country back to the stone age works and making sure trump will now use that trick every time a country acts up against ameriuyghurs.
>>2773032That would be nice, but we don't deserve anything nice.
>>2773057In a couple years when the Bibi Files are released, we will find out Captain Sinbad was an elaborate psyop by feds of unknown origin to create hyperstitions and will the freipocalypse into existence. You are responsible for this war Sinbad. You should repent and ask Allah for mercy.
>>2773034Why are they complaining that Americans won't be dying for them?
>>2773050Reposting retarded takes from elsewhere should be bannable.
>>2773061Schizophenia and capitalism
>Ziocucks and MIGAtards crying that Trump cucked out and didn't annihilate the Iranian state.
>Ultroids seething at Iranian leadership for taking a deal to end the fighting for now.
>>2773079Iran produces shaheds faster than america produces patriots, so every two week break in the war is a victory for the faster producer
>>2773083True. It might put more pressure on the American MIC to eventually ramp up production but who knows how long it will take. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns into a pattern of implementing ceasefires then the conflict flares up again with Hormuz getting blocked and SA and Israel getting bombed. All the while Iran finally gets to work on actually getting nukes this time.
>>2773034this almost makes it worth it tbh
>>2773015GRANDPA JUST WOKE UP!
BREAKING TRUTH!
>>2773034Throw iranian diasporas into a volcano etc
>>2773095Litteraly only Turkey or France using Lebanon as a colonial outpost again will save their nation, they are about as fucked as west bank.
So did Iran sell out Hez? Or is the ceasefire going to collapse immediately?
Resistance Libs rn:
>You didn't even genocide Iran like you said. What a wimp. Now our allies can't trust the United States will do what it says. Pussy loser.
>>2773099Israel can't live in peace. It will collapse unless Trump tells benji to fuck off.
>>2773095Iran must not abandon Hezbollah
>>2773105Nobody takes this lolcow srsly except other lolcows who got loomered, like Alex stein.
>>2773106Trump takes her seriously
>>2773107Guess that makes him a lolcow too, doesn't it?
>>2773095Of course. Nothing ever fucking happens, for all of the decadesposting the only real result of this whole ordeal is that Southern Lebanon is Israeli lebensraum.
>>2773109But they're not amusing anymore. This isn't 2016
israel says it will keep attacking lebanon so iran threw them under the bus to save itself
>>2773034Israel's destiny has always have been to be thrown under the bus like any other proxy
even "to the last jew" will become a rally call in the near future
>>2773116>Habibis>Aya-toolah>cello kebabThe actual fuck?
>>2773120Because we don't live in your epic HoI4 mod. Business is business.
Market manipulation, the bombs will probably fly again before two weeks
>>2773123>business is business True, there is no such thing as a national struggle, all war is a war against the working class. The American and Iranian bourgeoisie shake hands over the bodies of Iranian workers.
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