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Iran is doing a very poor job, dishonorable some would say, of allowing Oil to go through the Strait of Hormuz. That is not the agreement we have! President DONALD J. TRUMP
>>2775620>Israel is a smoll country, Iran is a big countryThank's for the amazing insight faggot
>>2775583i'm american man. i just have low patience for it at this point, because I was god damn 12 years old when we invaded iraq and i was like "are we the bad guys? what does this have to do with 9/11?" and I didn't even know about shit like CIA coups or vietnam yet.
This ceasefire deal is not going to last with Israel already breaking it and the terms already being “mistranslated”
>>2775633COMRADE ALEX JONES IS BEING SLANDERED BY TRUMP, WE MUST DEFEND HIS DIGNITY TOGETHER
>>2775640 Liberal your average leftist would know about the cia regime coups
>>2775633I ain't reading all that shit. Free Palestine.
>>2775646>b- but I was 12I knew about that at the time though ameriburgers Dont learn about geopolitics in school anymore so…
>>2775651It’s over for infowars most of his viewers probably gonna leave never thought this would happen… kinda
>>2775638Someone put grandpa out to pasture please.
I guess everyone in his inner circle thinks he's better off in power and alive so they can get rich manipulating the market.
Now that the dust has settled, why did Iran cuck out?
>>2775668The embers haven't died out, the fire will rise
>>2775650>>2775646how are you flipping it on me, the anon i was responding to was basically like "everyone's brainwashed so it's OK when they fall for it" and I was saying it's not an excuse because anyone has the ability to start doubting this bullshit even from a young age.
>>2775651>he was good then came under demonic influences, i miss the old trumpahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahaahhaah no way he actually believes this
>>2775650>>2775646like my point is you don't even need a marxist education to start doubting the burger reich because there's so many obvious plot holes in their narratives
>>2775673Oh I agree with you.
>>2775674he doesn't, he's made the calculation that trump is on his way out, and he's trying to get in with the anti-israel young right
if trump does bounce back from this jones will just pretend he was on his side all along, rightoids have goldfish memories
>>2775645
true or false: the history of all hitherto existing societies is the history of class struggle
>reactionary does a movement
>*look inside*
>it's their personality cult
Fucking lazy hack writers.
>>2775676my bad, I misunderstood
>>2775678True the republicans are currently divided between the “neo-con zionists” and the “America first fascists” with trump being in the middle with his I like to call “maga hardliners” though trump as been being more neocuck lately
>>2775685It’s okay
>>2775687>True the republicans are currently divided between the “neo-con zionists” and the “America first fascists” with trump being in the middle with his I like to call “maga hardliners” though trump as been being more neocuck latelyin a fucked up sort of way it's kind of good that there are two different types of reactionary competing for the american throne because if the american right were more unified they'd be more effective.
>>2775678this tbh. jumping ship into the new Tucker-Jim Kent right is probably the smart long-term business move.
>>2775688True
>the American right would be more effectiveThey already control the government I guess in solidifying there control more?
>>2775678True my younger brother doesn’t identify as a grouper but is a america first TikTok cuck that gets most of his politics from there and even he doesn’t like trump after ice ran over that lady
>>2775691Am I retarded is this sarcasm or not
>>2775696I am being sarcastic
>>2775691Tucker sucks on a lot of issues but I think if he ran in the GOP presidential primary as an anti-Zionist he would sweep.
>>2775698In 2028 he would probably run though probably get like 5-10% Vance is undoubted going to get like 80% in 2028 primary’s
>>2775691He sucks tho. There is plenty of good people including anti amerikkkan Lebanese you could shill instead
>>2775703And the vast majority of those people don't have a large platform to reach millions. Tucker does and that is the most important factor here. Not that he is a beacon of Truth or a champion of morality, but that he's literally propagandizing against this war and against Israel in general and that is a net positive. He's not intended to be a leader. He's not intended to be some great activists. Simply a vehicle for views to be pushed.
>>2775703>amerikkan LebaneseBe specific
>>2775705Yeah they don't have a plattform because retards like you would rather hand it to nazoids who will betray you the moment they see fit lmao
>>2775707The US can afford to flush a billion dollars to save one pilot because the US military get trillions in funding, its fucking nothing.
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>>2775698Nah GOP was told by Trump that Iran was 2 weeks away from nuking Israel, and now they chant "thoughs hew blehs izrul wheelbee blehs'd, thoughs hew kers izrul wheelbee kurs'd!"
So place your bets.
>Pakistan meeting will happen?
>How soon will Trump start bombing Iran again?
>Will the Euros do anything one way or the other(help with strait or RESIST Trump)?
Hormussy status?
>>2775713I’m going to say it’s going to drag on for another 2 weeks and then 2 weeks more after that, and the….
>>2775714Covered by a Maebari with "property of Iran" written on it.
>>2775701Nah everyone hates Vance he would bomb in 2028
>>2775709That's not the point of the video. It's about the theory that the whole rescue operation was just a failed special forces operation, probably to steal Iranian uranium.
>Keir Starmer reveals there are several world leader WhatsApp groups
secret diplomacy is back baby
>>2775708you really think that's why?
https://jewishpostandnews.ca/uncategorized/opposition-leader-lapid-calls-the-ceasefire-with-iran-a-political-disaster/Opposition Leader Lapid Calls the Ceasefire with Iran a ‘Political Disaster’
>Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid on Wednesday launched a sharp attack on the ceasefire agreement reached between the United States and Iran, calling it a “political disaster” and directly blaming Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
>In a post on X, Lapid said the agreement sidelined Israel from critical decisions affecting its national security. “Never in our entire history have we experienced such a diplomatic disaster,” he wrote, adding that “Israel wasn’t even at the table when decisions were made regarding the core of our security.”
>Lapid accused Netanyahu of failing to translate military achievements into strategic gains, despite praising the performance of the Israeli military and the resilience of the public during the conflict. “The army has accomplished everything that was asked of it, and the citizens have shown remarkable strength,” he said.
>However, he argued that those efforts were not matched by political leadership. “Netanyahu has failed politically, failed strategically, and has not achieved any of the goals he set for himself,” Lapid added. >>2775723The "liberal" wing of Zionism, btw. Dude doesn't care how right-wards he has to swing, his eyes are on the prize.
>>2775723https://x.com/yairlapid/status/2042223060661530627<Father of Failure.
<I see that Netanyahu is freaking out over the fact that yesterday I said what every Israeli knows—that he failed in the war against Iran.
<The claim from his mouthpieces isn’t that I was wrong, but that it’s forbidden to say the truth out loud. That’s how it is when you get used to lies—the truth becomes too painful.
<But I don’t take orders from them, so here’s the truth:
>- Netanyahu failed to topple the regime.>- Netanyahu failed to eliminate the nuclear program.>- Netanyahu failed to eliminate the ballistic missile program.Those were the war’s objectives, as he defined them himself. The military did outstanding work, so why did he fail? Here are the reasons:
>- He didn’t recruit Saudi Arabia and the UAE to fight by our side.>- He failed completely on the critical front of mobilizing the political and media system in the United States.>- He didn’t propose a regional summit for the day after the war.>- He didn’t even try to influence NATO.>- He didn’t properly assess the threat of closingthe Strait of Hormuz.
>- He failed on credibility issues with the Americans.>- He didn’t prepare Israel’s home front. Didn’t solve the shelter problem.>- He failed to prevent Pakistan from becoming the mediator, and was sidelined from the decision-making table at the moment of truth.
<On top of that, he failed morally and publicly when, in the middle of the war, he stole billions of shekels from the working and fighting public and transferred them to the Haredi draft dodgers, and even announced he’d try to reinstatethe draft exemption law while sending out tens of thousands of reserve duty orders.
<And now he’s whining.Bro is like "did you even try to scheme? that's like our whole thing."
>>2775723>>2775726guys clearly Netanyahu is the problem and if we just get rid of him Israel will be fixed
surely
Currently one
C-5 and four C-17s are on their way to MENA, and earlier today there was an additional
C-5, eighteen C-17s and six C-130s.
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>>2775734Biggest military transport in existence right now and kinda rare to spot. They can transport entire AD batteries though i think most are just used to airlift larger amounts of interceptor and stand-off munitions.
>>2775737 (samefag)
Correction: the An-124 can transport more and is still in active use.
>>2775723lol so they turned netanyahu and trump into sin eaters
>>2775722It's part of the reason. If you only believe that capitalists exlusively chose their mouthpiece perhaps don't fall for every capitalist giving you a mouthpiece who agrees with one single issue and nothing else
>>2775731>>2775726that seems to be the manuever in motion from the opposition, and i wouldn't be surprised if the broader zionist movement acts on it. when they say netanyahu failed to "mobilize the poltical and media system of the US" and "failed on credibility issues with the americans" they seem to be saying that netanyahu is now a liability to the zionist project. that netanyahu is the obstacle to the post-netanyahu PR reset that will allow them to reassert control over the US when the political and media class does a full court press going "the bad man that made everything bad is gone so they are good now".
I have started feeling like Israel is one more fuck up from state failure and the top command ending up in prison. I am too optimistic, ain't I?
>>2775746you think the chief editor from the economist will grant an interview to an anonymous (as far as this conversation concerns at least) anti-amerikkkan lebanese person if we shun tucker carlson enough? maybe i should vigourously shake my head in dissaproval each time susan abulhawa RTs tucker carlson.
>>2775748Maybe but I do think Israel is built on a house of sand.
Considering that Israel is a settler colonial project they don't have the same loyalty to the land that people in other countries do. A lot of them have dual-citizenship even. So when shit really hits the fan they're not gonna rally together, they're gonna flee. That makes Israel a lot more unstable than other countries that have had their backs against the wall. Contrast that with Iran which has a proud and ancient unbroken history dating back thousands of years.
>>2775748I'm 100% convinced israel is going to collapse in our lifetimes, and 50% convinced it will happen over the next 5 years or so.
>>2775760i think you cannot read
>>2775763Did it ever cross your mind that those ESL strawmen of yours don't even match up with what I actually said?
>>2775765oooh you're the schizo "everyone is accusing me of being ESL" lad, carry on.
>>2775766See? Another halucination just to not engage with what is being said. But fine. I accept your concession.
>>2775768which concession, you're yet to name a single anti amerikkkan lebanese, and answer if you think they will be conceded an interview by the economists' very prominently zionist chief editor if we just insist on very strongly condemning tucker carlson
>>2775762>Small comfort can be found in the fact that other nations have also experienced the “curse of the eighth decade” in a very painful way. The bloody American Civil War broke out 85 years after the adoption of the Constitution (oh, what luck – it happened to them in the ninth decade!). Italy became fascist and Germany became a Nazi terrorist state in the eighth decade after each nation’s unification. The Third Republic of France, founded in 1871, surrendered to the Nazi boot in 1940, in its eighth decade, while the communist monster that was born in the October Revolution of 1917 began to disintegrate in the 1980s and was finally shattered into pieces 74 years after its founding in 1991.that's pretty interesting actually
Is Israel imperialist?
>>2775773It's a product of western empires stealing land and displacing/murdering the people living there, and is currently engaging in naked expansionism, so yeah no shit, it's fundamentally imperialist.
>>2775775Is expansionism the same as imperialism?
>>2775770
will you guys fuck off with your burgerpol shit
>>2775777Are they treating people on newly acquired land as second-class citizens or worse? Then yes.
>>2775691>>2775705really pathetic shit. grow a fucking spine and stop groveling at the feet of nazis every time they accidentally come to a similar conclusion as non-retards
>>2775754They are already leaving Israel btw
How many days until American Gallipoli?
>>2775754>A lot of them have dual-citizenship even.You know a lot of people say this but I would like to know how much this is actually the case. I'd be willing to concede they're probably on the higher-end compared to the rest of the world but there are over 7 million Israeli Jews. I don't think all of these guys would jump ship as easily as some claim here. In fact, I think as Western countries begin deteriorating and their standards of living fall more and more, more non-Israeli Jews will leave those countries to become Israeli citizens. I still think Israel's odds of survival in the long-term are low, I'd even say it may not even survive this century, but I'm sure there are many Jews who have no other place they call home and would fight to the death to remain in Israel.
>>2775754The the Americas and possibly Australia and New Zealand will be the last successful settler colonial states in the next couple centuries if ever. Colonlisim has been on the retreat since the collapse of the British empire and post ww2. And even if Israel pulled it off they would eventually do the same thing as the other anglo-spanish colonial states did and go through civil rights movements, racial mixing and integration.
>>2775776That is old news from like a month ago and why did hou post the pidgin English version. I think it is silly it wasn't automatic before since you are legally require by law to do it. Just another one of the facets of our byzantine beuracracy like having to do your own taxes when in most countries the government does it for you.
>>2775785Bullshit. They can come to the USA even easier than White South Africans.
>>2775785finally, some sense in this thread
>projecting
>>2775785Yahya Sinwar and Ghassan Kanafi acknowledged that it was a mistake to think just because they were european larpers in the levant, that their identity was made up, that they would give up so easily.
Anyone member during the early days of the Gaza war about how all the Jews were claiming their birthright French and German citizenships? The Euros are required to give them citizenship on demand as reperations.
>>2775785>You know a lot of people say this but I would like to know how much this is actually the case. I'd be willing to concede they're probably on the higher-end compared to the rest of the world but there are over 7 million Israeli Jews. I don't think all of these guys would jump ship as easily as some claim here. In fact, I think as Western countries begin deteriorating and theirDid you miss the article that went viral 2 weeks ago of that FOI request in the UK that exposed 1/ 3 of idf soldiers in Gaza having at least one non-Israeli citizenship? 99,9% of Algerian settlers left immediately.
>>2775798Based Jones. Lol I read the image before i watched and I could hear is voice perfectly.
>>2775809
kys nazi
>>2775811The Nazis are the Israelis
>>2775809
>you are barely alive but then there is an army of so called leftists online making it their singular mission to counter signal these people
Haven't seen anyone doing that.
>>2775814Then you must be new to this website and leftist spaces
>>2775809
A lot of leftists are too one dimensional to into "useful idiots."
>>2775816Predictably, someone will mention "after Hitler our turn" because they can only think in parables and cliches as if their is an actual comparison and any of these talking heads have an army of Brown Shirts ready to kill them at a moments notice.
>>2775785I know of an Israeli that has double citizenship with the third world south american shit hole I live in, and bitch actually prefers to be here.
Israel is dying.
>>2775815"Spreading awareness" is worthless. Especially since you neonazi fucks don't actually give a shit, and it's simply a means to an end to recruit for you, scum.
Neck yourself now, save us the trouble.
>>2775729that fucking image. Jakes "I cant take this shit anymore dawg" god damn, I havent laughed this hard in a long time.
>>2775809
when candace owens get to undertand that everything is rooted in capitalism, and not in culture wars, maybe then I'll pay more attention to her, tucker, and alex jones words.
>IDF officials told a closed Knesset briefing that Iran’s new leadership is “more extreme than its predecessor,” - i24NEWS
turned a dying 80 year old into a martyr for no reason, what's the next step in israels master plan here
>>2775754>Considering that Israel is a settler colonial project they don't have the same loyalty to the land that people in other countries do. I think that's mistaken. This debate has come up a lot but a lot of them are extreme nationalists as far as I can tell. That can co-exist with a settler-colonial project which involves displacing the Palestinian inhabitants. Also it's a thing with West Bank Palestinians to prefer being stopped at checkpoints by Ashkenazi soldiers compared to Mizrahi soldiers. The Mizrahim are not European Jews. Whether something bad happens at a checkpoint is the luck of the draw, but pulling up to a checkpoint manned by Mizrahi soldiers is the worst draw because they're going to power trip on you, shouting, with guns out. Not that Ashkenazis are angels since many settlers are Ashkenazis and they're as extreme as it gets but this is a real social difference (with some generalization).
>So when shit really hits the fan they're not gonna rally together, they're gonna flee.Nope. Big strategic mistake to assume this. In fact they've been through several major wars in their history. I could be wrong though and history will turn out differently. I don't know if it will still exist 50 or 100 years from now.
>>2775617>>2775633>>2775638My laughter is immense and my lungs hurt. He just realized this fucking shit, my fucking god.
>>2775867That video is really old, probably 2 years old tmk.
>>2775870Yeah just thought it would be good to point out. You can draw your own conclusions, it is interesting that now all of a sudden a politici would make a fuss about it. Who knows, maybe some did back then, but nothing came of it just like nothing will come of this either probably.
>>2775871I don't know what sort of polling is coming out of South Korea re:Israel but I imagine the numbers aren't good, and that's what he's looking at and trying to pander to.
>>2775873not even that, SK porky needs their cheap oil/gas again
>>2775867It wouldn't surprise me if Asian countries are framing Israel as the boogeyman right now, especially since oil is running out and Iran remains in control, so they wanna be on the country's good side. No leader gave a shit about this video two years ago and now suddenly see the humanity of Palestinians? lol, lmao
>>2775876Yeah that too it's a way to pander to Iran.
>>2775879Yeah, I remember when I first watched the video.
10 April 2026
03:28 GMT
President Trump has confirmed that he personally asked Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to scale back the bombing of Lebanon in a phone call Wednesday.
“I spoke with Bibi and he’s going to low-key it. I just think we have to be sort of a little more low-key,” Trump told NBC News on Thursday.
>>2775905>IDF soldiers torturing and dropping a teenager off a rooftopliterally what they claim Palestinians do
>>2775869normies don't see anything so even stuff from years ago shocks them. like try saving some of the stuff on your phone and showing it to normies. best way you can agitate against israel is to show what they do to people. if someone gets all nauseous and sensitive and says they don't want to see it ask them why they're afraid to see the results of what they pay taxes for
>>2775809
>the left is all pro zionist while the right is anti zionist
evidence?
>>2775867SK was pretty pissed over having their THAAD units moved out and they're experiencing energy shocks due to Hormuz being blocked. Probably trying to appeal to the Iranians to let their oil shipments through. The price of being a US puppet is steep.
>>2775927>>2775937Seems to me that much more friends of Cuba have perished than friends of America.
>>2775959
"if a fight broke out between satan and america, i would choose satan's side, because america is the greater satan"
>>2775959
Wrong. This is an interdengist war.
>>2775809
have these grifters stop the war in lebanon? have they stopped settlers from going around raping people in the west bank or israel from killing people in gaza?
tell me you useless gringordo shill, did these grifters stop the war? or was it iran's missiles?
>>2775809
We dont owe our support to every retarded reactionary goblin who got what they voted for and have buyers remorse, uyghur.
>>2775967uygha forget this have these dollar store "dissident" even rooted out any important zio in the us or even menaced them? No. Which is why zionists boost them and have went against the left so hard since Oct 7.
>>2775809
>social media posts
I'm sorry for the made up Yemeni kid, but someone should tell him that shit doesn't matter to any US foreign policy, so I'm actually free to call Candace Owens a retard on the internet for believing Jews and the French are magical beings who use their power for evil and run the world.
Trump is basically playing chicken with the rest of the world. He is saying "see what happens when there isn't a global power able to protect shipping routes". Of course it's true that it's the US that started this crisis in the first place, but his point remains. Either NATO countries and other neutral and/or aligned countries like Japan/SK/India/Australia/Indonesia/Brazil etc put pressure on Iran, or the whole planet goes into the worst economic depression in history.
The other countries, for the most part, are playing chicken just as well, either by staying silent or openly criticizing the war, but most of all, by not using applying military or economic pressure on Iran.
However, like all games of chicken, eventually someone has to blink. And it's the US that can quite obviously last the longest. It produces most of its oil and now also has Venezuelas oil at its disposal. Other countries face not just oil shortage, but also fertilizer shortage.
This is honestly a brilliant move from the Trump administration. This is the kind of genius Machiavellian geopolitics that will be talked about for centuries to come.
>>2775809
Wake me up when rightoids burn down an israel-affiliated factory or lead a relief effort for Palestine. Oh wait, they don't care, it's just an excuse for them to screech and get money. These podcasters do one good thing and that is create verbal opposition from within the right, so they have their place, but that place is in your shithole. We don't need to accept any of their bullshit even when they say the one correct thing before saying that charlie kirk is alive in serbia.
>>2775975Or they could pay up and make political concessions to Iran.
>>2775991The IR is turning away all ships, even the ones that agree to pay.
>>2775614As I accurately predicted through an In-Depth Dialectical Materialist Marxist-Leninist-Maoist Analysis, this 40-day “Iran War” was a Inter-Bourgeois/Capitalist/Reactionary Kabuki Theatre between the Imperialist Settler-Colonial Crypto-Fascist Christian Zionist Nationalist MAGAtard U$/Zionist State and the Controlled Opposition Crypto-Zionist/U$ Puppet State Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist “Islamic Republic of Iran” which is why I can’t wait until the Controlled Opposition Crypto-Zionist/U$ Puppet State Shia Islamist Theocratic Fascist “Islamic Republic of Iran” is overthrown in a Maoist PPW to create a Persian SSR which will include all of the ethnic Persian majority regions of Iran, Afghanistan, and Tajikistan, while granting National Liberation/Self-Determination to the Oppressed Nations of South Azerbaijan, Kurdistan, Arabistan, and Balochistan, in their own Azeri SSR, Kurdish SSR, Arab SFSR, and Baloch SSR, respectively, as shown in my Map of all the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR in West Asia, after the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalates into a Global Nuclear War that will completely destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System, thus allowing for a World Maoist PPW (In both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery, where Maoist PPW is currently viable in the Material Conditions as proven by the ongoing Maoist PPWs in India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Peru, and in the Imperial Core, where Maoist PPW will not be viable in the Material Conditions until World War III breaks out and/or Liberal Bourgeois Democracy is permanently suspended, with these two inevitable events being related and probably happening around the same time) to create a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the first Map I posted) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2775871It feels like they are pressuring Israel to stop fucking up the economy
>>2775975stop attacking iran and the strait will open, just with a toll booth. the pressure needed is on the us and israel to halt their criminal rampage, then the world can move on.
>>2775997see above. israel sabotaged the ceasefire by slaughtering civilians in lebanon, and the us lied and covered for them. stop that shit and it will open.
Le interimperialist conflict
>>2775975>see what happens when there isn't a global power able to protect shipping routesbut they are still the global sea power, and they're just showing they cant do actually protect shit, and even worse, they cause the very problem they cant solve
>And it's the US that can quite obviously last the longestlmao no, US pain tolerance is minuscule, and they're extremely dependent on financial sector and debt, which all comes crashing down in a global crisis. Iran on the other hand has extremely high pain tolerance and actually produce most of their own shit, and have land routes to china and russia
>This is honestly a brilliant move how fucking retarded are polyps seriously, they still believe muh 5d chess right fucking now? completely delusional
>>2775918>low-key itthey dont seem to even understand the concept of a ceasefire
>>2776004Le interdengist conflict
>>2776008listen bro, i played 5000 hours HoI4 with hitler and waifu mods and watched 10000 hours of alt history slop and prof jiang predictive history on youtube i know how shit works.
>>2776004i will gladly take imperialism, unamerican, over imperialism, american, for no reason other than that it's unamerican
>>2776015i will gladly take cock, up the ass, over cock, in my mouth, for no other reason than that it's up the ass
Currently one C-17, one C-26D and one A-350 are on their way to MENA, and earlier today there was six C-17s, one P-8, one KC-135, one A-330 and one A-400.
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>>2776021such is the nature of intercourse wars
>>2775723wtf, this is an """opposition""" leader?? jizzraeli politics really be different shades of hitler huh
So the war is still on going?
>>2776000They can’t stop what’s already been done
>>2776078>But in the end, he landed on Trump, reportedly emboldened by success in Venezuela.Proof that retardation can be a world-historical force if severe enough.
Reminder that Iran denies attacking the gulf countries during the "ceasefire" and they too deny attacking , or being a platform for NATO to attack(same thing) Iran. But both do. As do the hostilities continue in Iraq and so does the strait of Hormuz remain very much closed.
Which means the only actual "ceasefire" being observed is between Iran and Israel. While the latter sets up the disarmament of Hezbollah with their western sponsors and the NATO puppet Lebanese regime. One can only blame the "foolishness" of Iranian leaders so long, in "falling for" their enemy's schemes. I'm sorry if this hurts your "morale" or whatever.
I recommend hanging around these accounts circles for a less telegram-voyeur-minded outlook. In descending order of my personal preference:
https://xcancel.com/zei_squirrel (THE squirrel)
https://xcancel.com/CallaWalsh (no instroduction necessary)
https://xcancel.com/AliAbunimah ( of Electronic Intifada)
https://xcancel.com/ireallyhateyou (Isreali anti-zionist inside perspective)
https://xcancel.com/Tracking_Power (David Miller)
https://xcancel.com/CraigMurrayOrg (often has interesting insights and travels around the region to report)
https://xcancel.com/propandco (commentary)
I would request having them added to the OP, as well.
>>2776096Oh, I take it that USA is attacking Iran? Because the only observed ceasefire, according to you, is between Iran and Israel
>>2776096Go back and stay there Twitteroid
freak.
>>2776096>everyone come onto this site ran by an upper class nazihow about neck yourself you simp faggot
>>2776096That squirrel guy is seriously mentally ill thoughwever.
>>2776103>nazi is when autistic conservative zionist businessmanStop giving our ennemies more AURA than they actually have
>>2776108We can recognise when our ennemies have aura. Hitler had lots of aura, Musk don't. When you call him a nazi you are giving him Hitler's aura that he dont have. Also he's legit a catastrophic philosemite which Hitler wasnt.
>>2776096Why is everyone hating on this guy?
>>2775858Israel has not had to face a truly desperate, grinding conflict in my opinion, the kind where the whole population is asked to start making long-term sacrifices to resist. Maybe you could say 1948? the motivation of the holocaust was way more prescient at that time though. 1967? A six day surprise backstab land grab, not a "war". 1973? 2 weeks of battle far away from the main population centers is not enough time to really test the civilian morale. The intifadas can only really extract a psychological toll on the population, not impose desperation in the way an embargo or siege can. Anyone that can will flee like rats from sinking ship, very few of them are gonna die for their shit-ass fake country.
>>2776129I know why, but even still some of the responses are suspiciously chud coded
>>2776137
>Stalinists
Obssesed.
>>2776153They’re just everywhere in online leftist space, and have the tendency spread into spaces without their presence. So it’s not obsession, they’re just that unavoidable.
>>2775691All those comments glow through my screen. They are attacking Tucker with everything. Hey here is a crazy thought:
>What if Larry Loomer is writing trump's trvkes?It honestly feels like it.
We should also take this as a good sign that they are desperate. Iran, please Accelerate.
>>2776137
Difference is Stalin actually wins wars.
>>2776096every point just straight up wrong, impressive work
>>2776157>They’re just everywhere in online leftist spacewtf i love online leftist spaces now!?
>>2776160Is Iran attacking Israel yes or no?
>>2776157>They’re just everywhereand that's a good thing!
>>2776161Currently: maybe
Longterm: you’ll go back to hating yourselves
>>2776163You’ve also been just about everywhere in offline leftist spaces. For decades.
>>2776165have you tried reddit or bluesky? might be more your speed
>>2776096Can someone explain why this guy is getting hate?
>>2776168because what he says is correct and not just copium
>>2776167Nowhere is quite my speed, and that becomes more apparent everyday.
>>2776168stupid ass analysis reeks of liberalism
>>2776170ah an enlightened contrarian then
>>2776171>being critical of the retarded cuckfire pushed by the reformist capitulationists is le liberalismlol
>>2776172Opposed to the apocalyptic liberal insanity of the mainstream
>>2776122>WeAre you the same technocracy flag that was crying about "anti-lib leftists" the other day? If thats the case there is no "we" big guy, you are on the other team
>>2776175guess that means you have to hang out with the stalinists. its ok we wont make fun of you too much
>>2776181You're the CEO of leftism
>>2776173>>2776176i'm pretty sure the ceasefire benefits iran either way because they produce shaheds faster than burgers produce anything. any ceasefire objectively lets iran restock 20,000 dollar drones that they use to shoot down billion dollar jets
>>2776184Why are you a technocrat
>>2776188I like how the flag look
>>2776176>Iran wonIsrael is still attacking and is still doing genocide
>>2776186I would agree with you if they kept attacking Israel for at least one month more before doing the ceasefire
Giving Israel a break is a serious mistake
Reformist retards never learn I guess
>>2776189Are you actually a technocrat or do you just like the flag?
>>2776103>site ran by an upper class nazithe links he provided are to xcancel not xitter you absolute moron
>>2776168I'm that anon. The thread is going through the same process as /ukr/. Back then, what the "Zigger" term meant to mock, was a mess of /pol/ happening crossposters and unironic nationalists. They were morbidity and happening hogs and also the main contributors to actually reporting from the various telegrams, non-english sources and rumor mills.
They often pretended to "raid" the thread with NATOid trolling to assert themselves as defenders of the anti-imperialist consensus. While actually pushing nationalism and increasingly revealing themselves as rightoids as they failed to "convert" anyone. Eventually they left and the /ukr/ thread settled on the cucktin consensus and became barren of both information and hot takes.
>>2776191the enrichment still exists? the missile production too? the reasons why israel started the war in the first place? mossad doesn't need to pay for hasbara turns out twitterfags will do it for free
>>2775754>they don't have the same loyalty to the land that people in other countries do. Nice spooks
>>2776196>cucktinnewfag making shit up to try and fit in. pathetic. that's not how any of that went. blow your brains out immediately
>>2776191Is there a better way to stop Israel than critical support to Hezbollah? Shooting missiles at them will hardly change their genocidal policies, while Hezbollah has defeated Israel twice with Iranian support. In fact an occupation situation will likely decrease Lebanese support for Hezbollah disarmament the longer it goes on. Of course it still remains to be seen how effectively they can support Hezbollah at this time.
>>2776194>hurr i have used an aggregator to link to a nazis posthow about just stop
>>2776197>the reasons why israel started the war in the first place? exactly, this means they will start it again eventually and they will keep causing destruction and death in the region because not enough deterrence was established, Iran needs to resume attacks against Israel as soon as possible
>muh hasbaranow this thread will be like the ukraine thread when everytime someone points out the mistakes of the kremlin liberals you get called NAFO
you retards replaced the culture war with geopolitics, all you care about is "owning" the other side in your liberal marketplace of ideas
>>2776207>link to a nazis post<look inside>its calla walshthis are the guys calling people that dont dickride the ceasefire "hasbara" btw
>>2776196Tbf, the /ukr/ thread died down because nothing was happening. If you go to /chug/ on 4chan, more the 75% of content is just memes and avatarfags of Alpha1918, elves, Bukhanka, Xi, Cucktin, Cats, Bees and soyjaks.
The ironic thing is /chug/ started getting more content when the Iran thing happened and the 4chan mods shut down the pro-iran thread so they started posting in /chug.
>>2776208anyone posting at a nazi bar is a nazi
>>2776168Well for one, what he said is literally wrong as was pointed out:
>>2776098 Also the furry porn fag should buy an ad.
God this thread is getting insufferable. Too many liberals and zionist reddit faggots here.
>>2776212Iraninan officials post on xitter, I guess they are nazis according to you
not hasbara btw
>>2776208you're not exactly refuting the idea that israel lost, just reiterating the point that iran will need to beat them again the future, except this time with leverage over the strait and enrichment still being on the brink of weapons grade
>>2776216>no you must post on the website run by the american upper class they need the advertisingit sounds like you should go back to reddit or twitter
>>2776208Well since we are being forced to look at these twitter accpunts right now some reason I guess I will flood the thread with more twitter drama.
Looks like the kids are turning on Stinkleberg
>>2776096 (me)
I really don't care what the rubes who only have this thread for a source of information think. Or how the rightoids deflect from my sources, indisputably anti-imperialist, for the main reason of being incompatible with their rightoid POV. Too much to the left compared with their nationalist glowed up telegrams and takes.
I wanted to contribute a left-ier, anti-imperialist perspective against the rightwards drift of the thread. All the (you)s to my hot take, only increased the visibility of those sources I promote. All the worthwhile anons already knew of those accounts, or they do now.
So eat a fat one, rightoids. Go flood the thread with hasbara and unironic nazoid counters again, losers.
>>2776237
Obssessed
>>2776218>no you must post on the websitenever said that, you are legit braindead
>>2776217>you're not exactly refuting the idea that israel lostbecause I don't disagree that Israel got their shit pushed in and failed to achieve their objectives, but just as Iran wins by default by simply not lossing, something similar applies to Israel as long as the US doesn't 100% throw them under the bus
I'm arguing that for the safety of the region Israel needs to be fully neutralized and that the ceasefire is a mistake, Iran gathered a bunch of support in the region, this is the time to keep pressure on, but for some reason you interpret this as I'm saying "heh, Israel hecking won!" because you see this as some your team vs my team nonsense
>>2776245
>fash social media
all of internet is a capitalist imperialist tool, there is no such a thing as "non-fash social media" just as there is no ethical consumption under capitalism
>>2776241israel isn't irans problem to solve, sorry. the slaughter of civilians had to stop
See this is the problem, some retard spergs out over something irrelevant (muh hekin twitter is nazi!) and derails the conversation, I make fun of him and all the mentally ill schizos that share the same disorder sperg out in his defense. It's not that I am a shitposter or an attention whore, is that you people are mentally ill
Someone using or not using twitter is utterly irrelevant, take meds.
>>2776251im exclusively on xiaohongshu there's no excuse
>>2776254Alas, much like with /ukr/ the mods refuse to purge them.
Despite them calling the founder of Electronic Intifada and Calla Walsh "nazis". It's dogshit derailing because they cannot argue with the sources so they don a Bolshevik flag and expect the blatant channer slide-spam to pass.
>>2776252>israel isn't irans problem to solveexcept it is since Israel will keep attacking them and putting iranians in danger, the iranian goverment has a duty to protect them, the ceasefire is a step in the opposite direction, only the delusional reformist retards that believe in diplomacy with the west and their proxies don't see it this way
>the slaughter of civilians had to stopit literally hasn't stopped you fucking moron
>>2776235you are a faggot
>>2776241run with fash post with fash blablabla no I will not smear shit into my eyeballs
>>2776262you are a western apologist for heaping responsibility of israels containment on iran. they have nothing to do with them. iranian leaders are rightfully prioritizing their domestic constituents. they have every right to make the decisions they deem necessary to achieve that, even they have to act on private information a foreigner can't see publicly
>>2776263
You are just mentally ill anon, Not using twitter isn't a revolutionary praxis, it's lifestylism, it's ethical consumption under capitalism, same with bikes
You are just upset the core pillars of your liberal life style are being criticized
>>2776108its nothing but aura, no content, just wow cool uniforms and unapologetically evil!
>>2776268They are not, what they are doing is called thread sliding. Spam to flood the threads would get deleted so instead they post the most outrageous, retarded takes for bait to enlist others into filling up the thread with garbage.
>>2776267>you are a western apologist for heaping responsibility of israels containment on iran. they have nothing to do with themlmao you are a legalist retard
>>2776272just like leftcom flag then
lenin and castro were lawyers :)
I think this ceasefire is bullshit, but what is nuanced opinion that isn't iran cucked out or totally based 13d cess?
>>2776279
Unironically I switched to /pig/ as this thread started degenerating into infighting instead of talking about the war.
remember when everyone thought kharg island was about to be taken by ground troops. Lol
>>2776276but they weren't legalists
>>2776288
I was assured an invasion of Iran last summer. I was assured an invasion of Iran last month. starting to think this bluff is losing its effectiveness
>>2776288
Because he just realized what is going on
>>2776287Weird take but I don't think Trump wanted to topple Iran, He and his friends made a lit of cash by trading oil and other commodities before and after the war, he further escalated the conflict in the middle east and thus secured hundreds of MIC contracts and made sure the Arab world will remain fractures and wrecked havoc on European and Asian production lines without damaging them to the point of causing social unrest.
>>2776293
Based pope
>>2776293
Idealism
>>2776299
Also, the church initially supported the cristiada. Weird shit bro.
>>2776292americas strength is derived from the alliances it can pull together with its vassals, i dont understand why trump would go into this war with the intention of weakening their european and asian friends, what does he gain? america at least benefits from destroying the gulf states and stealing their oil export markets, that part makes sense
Did you anons know Larijani was a Kant scholar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_LarijaniInteresting to see the more philosophical sides of some of America's enemies, these guys are clearly all intelligent people. I remember reading somewhere that Xi Jinping loved Faust and talked about it when he visited Germany once. I wonder if there are any people like this in the US armed forces?
>>2776210it look like star wars rebel alliance logo
>>2776254>It's not that I am a shitposter or an attention whoreyes you are, you're also a glowie and wrecker, and you're the living proof our mods are either useless or actually pro imperialists
>>2776303
Tbh I don't know much about the crusades. But that sounds very plausible. My point is, wars have been supported by the church when it serves its own interests. If Catholics really followed what Jesus said, then they would just turn the other cheek in any kind of conflict.
>>2776318Jesus also said that if your eye offends you, you should cut it off and cast it away. The presence of Muslim usurpers in the Holy Land was an offense, so the Crusades were an attempt to cut them off and cast them away.
>>2776293
The current Pope may have some pretty based positions, but I wonder how they square this with the Crusades?
>>2776355
there won't be any talks within those 24 hours lmao
>>2776335That's allegedly what St. Francis told the sultan al-Kamil. Anway, in principle I actually don't have a problem with the Church becoming more pacifistic but I wish things like this could be clarified more if Pope Leo is going to make comments on this issue, which unfortunately with the way Twitter works it is more difficult. Maybe he is somewhat uncomfortable with the idea of a religious war, but I think we should be aware that Catholic philosophers in the past would've made a distinction between a holy war and a just defensive war, though obviously they would naturally agree that a war could be both at the same time.
That being said though, even if I were to not consider me being Catholic I would say pacifism is an untenable position and and the vast majority of Catholic or non-Catholic philosophers who have discussed these ideas would agree. Because pacifism rejects war absolutely and says that there's no absolutely no reason that justifies war, even in self-defence. That's just civilizationally suicidal but that's what pacifism is. Someone who calls themselves a pacifist but say for
this one reason they make an exception is not actually a pacifist, it's the same thing with the pro-life vs pro-choice issue. Someone who calls themselves pro-life but makes an exception stops being pro-life and becomes pro-choice. An actual pacifist is someone like Gandhi who was telling the British that it would be better to let themselves be annihilated by the Germans than to fight back. That is a pacifism that is logically consistent and I don't understand how anyone could hold such an opinion without seeing the dreadful consequences it could bring.
>>2776229no this isnt my only source i've just read enough books to know better than to post on CIA honeypots ran by the upper class.
>>2776355
>Resupply during pseudo cease-fire
>Carnage resumes
>"Make a deal or else!"
>TACO
>"We made a deal"
>"Syke"
>Repeat ad nauseam
For how long does this go on?
>>2776366Until US has no stockpiles on Trump gets bored
>>2776367>Until US has no stockpilesRealistically how long could this take? And if it does get to this level then what's stopping the US from activating a war economy once the supply starts running low? I don't know the legislation required behind this if it would be necessary but maybe they go the Russia route and allot 30% of the budget to the military.
>>2776362
Even with all new material i doubt they have enough to sustain any serious effort to invade Iran. My guess would be the following: sham cease fire and sham 'negotiations' while Lebanon is bombed to hell to start a ground campaign in Lebanon.
>>2776229Have you considered that both nationalist telegrams and xitter lefties could be unreliable sources of information about an ongoing war?
>>2776370>what's stopping the US from activating a war economyLack of manufacturing capacity.
Lack of skilled labour.
Lack of required inputs.
Lack of a military industrial complex willing to actually produce shit instead of selling imaginary weapons.
>>2776372While Trump TACO'd extremely hard this week, I think we may still get something similar to what he was planning without necessarily a ground invasion or nukes being used. Honestly I think what's likelier and what probably will happen is that the US is going to start pummeling civilian infrastructure. Maybe the resupplying is for that. I don't know if they're going to do much with Lebanon, they probably think Israel can handle them alone. But things could still turn far darker for Iran.
>>2776378Since we live in the most retarded time line - yes, maybe the Burgers are retarded enough to waste whatever they have left to bomb civillians indiscriminately (as if they didn't do that so far anyway) and thusly crash the global economy for good.
>>2776376Also in a for profit system nobody wants to build the necessary production capacity to keep the war going for months and years at the sufficient intensity. The war might always end next week, or two months from now and then anybody who has made investments on the basis of this being the next WW3 lasting for decades and years will get fucked. US government cannot make such guarantees that would justify hundreds of billions worth of investment, construction and training of skilled labor (which doesn't just grow on trees) for any for profit entity to make such investments make sense.
>>2776398So it's unlikely this goes the Ukraine route and lasts years?
>>2776387
lots of dumb bombs. the bottleneck is interceptors
you think the ceasefire is going to hold?
>>2776370>Realistically how long could this take? And if it does get to this level then what's stopping the US from activating a war economy once the supply starts running low? I don't know the legislation required behind this if it would be necessary but maybe they go the Russia route and allot 30% of the budget to the military.I don’t think the U.S ruling class is ideologically capable of shifting to a war economy nor do they have the political capital to do it even if they managed to find it somewhere in themselves to discipline porky or national the necessary industries.
>>2776416israeli media is treating it like the wars already over
>>2776232
>>2776249
you're spamming "buy an ad" at anyone who even so much as posts a youtube video. i saw you doing it in other threads too. discussing stuff isn't always shilling dummy.
>buy an ad
is literally shilling ads as a product btw. i will never buy jack shit
>>2776221somehow i trust fink on the mena region more than student radlibs who think liking hamas and hezbollah or protesting makes them tuff
>>2776222Based Michael Burry shorting that evil Palantir coke head.
>>2776367Until everyone forgets about the files.
>>2776435>(german model)unimaginable cruelty
>>2776437
not the anon
>>2776459
>starts a conversation
>calls it derail when people reply
>demands in several different threads that anons buy ads (???) when they aren't even shilling a product
>unironically is shilling AdSense
>>2776440kek. i think theyd rather get nuked
>>2776434
This one is lol
>>2776434
haha, fucking lold. Right.
>>2776481
>he played tf a hoi4 mod with a bunch of zoomers
lmao wtf i looked this up and its actually real. i dont care what anyone says, i love this man so much
>>2776482
I hear you. You are right. I mean, granted Ep had his meaty little paws in just about everything imaginable, not everything is about him, though .
>>2776366>resupplyAnd where would these supplies come from? The US expended years worth of production in a few weeks.
>>2776485Just because he plays games? Really, man. Are you that easy to manipulate.
>>2776495They are gradually losing power. No one gives a shit what that incompetent admin says.
>>2776473
buy an ad for adsense and stop shilling ad-buying
>>2776434
It's not necessarily about "the files" from the liberal conspiracies about zionism as an outsider force to US hegemony. "The files" as presented (read: not the actual extortion materials) are to Epstein's OP what the two-party system is to liberal democracy.
But Epstein's OP (and Zionism in general) *is* a prominent tool with which NATO disciplines their politics. So culture war aside, of course Epstein's case is relevant. I would bet, many strings are being pulled right now by the CIA/Mossad complex to keep the EU unwavering in support of the US (public statements aside), despite the economic damage they must sustain. And how they will be asked to subsidize the US MIC anyway, now and forever.
I really hope Iran sticks to what they've been saying about not negotiating unless Lebanon is included. They should keep attacking Israel while chilling on attacks against GCC/US bases to hopefully get US to restrain Israel. If the fronts split again it's fucking over for the "axis of resistance".
>>2776498he means love in the sense of him being a glorious lolcow
>>2776495The aircraft have constantly been arriving in the threater though. The FlightAware anon has been posting on it. eighteen C-17 flights. I don't think its all toiler paper and ration kits.
>>2776507Ahh, got it. My mistake.
>>2776508They won't be able to do much to resupply the missile interceptors which are the most important types of munitions since global stockpiles are limited. Meanwhile the Iranians themselves can also use the pause to regroup and resupply, and can do so far more quickly than the Americans since their munitions are cheap and domestically prosuced. A pause doesn't just help the imperialists, and probably does more for the Iranians. If this were just a strategic pause I doubt the Israelis would be seething as hard as they are.
>>2776516So idk almost anything about US military production but you mention the Iranians produce their equipment domestically, does the US not do that? Who makes their bombs, missiles, rockets, etc.?
>>2776524US military production is overpriced and overcomplicated for the sake of MIC profits. For every patriot interceptor Iran can pump out dozens of shaheds price- and labor-wise
>>2776519wow, would you look at that, a psychotic moron has symptoms of belonging to a psychiatric ward.
>>2776524>the Iranians produce their equipment domestically, does the US not do that? Who makes their bombs, missiles, rockets, etc.?Technically a lot of our weapons are produced domestically. But if you’ve ever seen the movie war dogs, our military is primarily propped up by a bunch of legal gun runners. The more advanced stuff requires complicated global supply chains, if it’s not parts it’s raw resources we could be cut off from.
>>2776524American production is domestic as well, but the weapons they've been relying on most heavily (interceptor and cruise missiles) are extremely expensive and slow to produce. Iran can produce dozens of their own ballistic missiles and drones for every one the Americans do. The US military industrial complex isn't designed for sustained attritional fighting, but short bursts of overwhelming force and low intensity colonial wars. The Iraq War shows their strengths: shock and awe followed by counterinsurgency. If an powerful adversary resists the initial onslaught the Americans typically can't sustain a long term, high intensity conflict. This is a result of the changes in the arms industry after the end of the Cold War. It was assumed that the era of great power conflict was over, and that the need for mass production of streamlined and cheap weapons to arm millions of soldiers was gone. To compensate for this, the MIC consolidated many of its main firms into a small handful, and these then gouged the government to maximize profits on the much smaller volume of equipment being produced.
>>2776557We don't have 2 months. This will cause a market crash before then.
Will this be a wakeup call for the american MIC?
>>2776137
get help dude
>>2776588Somebody was posting infographics about sulfuric acids and how USA will suffer immensely without copper mining as a result
>>2776588>MIGHT>IN MAY>only hurts Chile, Congo and Zambiat-thanks
>>2776598Do you think coper mining industries are not privately owned by western interests
>>2776593the d stands for delusion in this case. for trump stands for dementia.
>>2776481
he actually does actively push more for euro interests than US interests.
akin to european libs who think trump = putin, and yes, you cannot escape the TFR hearts of iron 4 cringe
>>2776612Based. Chile is a reactionary pro Amerikkkan shit hole
>>2776612Kinda cool and somewhat sinister how those company logos reference alchemy.
>>2776621
The Boys is zionist dogshit
The Trump administration has stepped up an effort to unmask a Reddit user who criticized Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). After failing to obtain information through a summons issued to Reddit, the government reportedly issued a subpoena demanding that Reddit provide the information and appear before a grand jury in Washington, DC.
The Intercept described the subpoena today. “According to a subpoena obtained by The Intercept, Reddit has until April 14 to provide a wide range of personal data on one of its users, whom US Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents have been trying unsuccessfully to identify for more than a month,” the article said
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/04/trump-admin-hounds-reddit-to-reveal-identity-of-user-who-criticized-ice/Neat
>>2776653I'm guessing that is an ai slop image?
>>2776652Wasn’t Rick Scott the Florida governor that let one of his friend run a CP server using state resources and tax payer money? Or was it bitcoin for CP? I can’t remember, Florida is insanely corrupt, they’re always years ahead reactionary politics.
>>2776657yeah too many ukraine flags
>>2776657Yeah, typical quality rt news
>>2776655>rtand the problem is?
they are quoting another news agency, though.
>>2776668It's some schizo tabloid italian website
>>2776664bit on the nose as well with the guy standing over them commanding their exit
>>2776673
I look like this
>>2776673
Average leftoidpoler.
>>2776673
kek
>>2776673
I use that shirt.
>>2776676pp+vox are projected to win the next election still and unlike in germany or france there's no cordon sanitaire aganist them. they already governed together in some regions
>>2776642told you guys three days ago that cease-fire will hold, now apologize please.
>>2776673oh, here, put this news media too, then. picrel, the media.
>>2776669>>2776669I'd wait and see.
>>2776706it hasn't even started yet, at no point has Israel withdrawn from Lebanon or stopped bombing Lebanese kids.
>>2776642>The Iranians don’t seem to realize they have no cards, other than a short term extortion of the World by using International Waterways. The only reason they are alive today is to negotiateis that trump? nah, sounds too smartsy. rubio?
>>2776593But Hormuz is still closed dawg.
>april 8Get up to date leftychud.
>>2776718
>it's a ceasefire if you don't count the fire that hasn't ceased
>>2776735
>Sweeney is a member of the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist)
>>2776737>SweeneySyndey Sweeney is a communist?
Holy Tits.
>>2776735
all the better. I dont see many communists over there doing anything
>>2776737So he's a rug seller?
>>2776196>to assert themselves as defenders of the anti-imperialist consensus. While actually pushing nationalism and increasingly revealing themselves as rightoids wrong
>Eventually they left and the /ukr/ thread settled on the cucktin consensualso wrong and we are still here. russia is still winning and so is iran. cope more zionista
>>2776739
>In 2023 Steve Sweeney was listed as a supporter of Friends of Socialist China.
>>2776747Russia and the Zio gang support Israel
>>2776723red-brown alliance is back on the menu.
nazbol gang risin'
>>2776750
… and the rest of the western labour movement as well, directy causing the creation of fun organizations such as the ILO to combat communism. Now get back in formation and bitch about the thread subject.
>>2776760
>Lenin is against campism
national liberation wars are not campism
>>2776760
>Lenin is against campism
depends.
>>2776766
thats not what campism means.
>>2776743there are dozens of communists in UK jails right now because anti-genocide groups started sabotaging Israeli arms factories and the government used it as an excuse to ban the words 'Palestine' and 'action' from being used in the same sentence. The ones arrested for their speech have not been charged and many have been in jail for years now.
>>2776774>siding with a capitalist regime in a war similar to ww1that is not lenins position. ww1 was an interimperialist war. the current war is a national liberation war.
actually read the text
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jul/junius-pamphlet.htm>>2776760
>Lenin is against campism
Lenin thought Japan defeating Russia was progressive, he supported Afghanistan's bourgeois-driven struggle against colonialism, he directly aided nationalist Turkey including in its war against Armenia because it foiled Entente's plans in the region. He was absolutely a turd worldist zigger campist
>>2776723I just can't tell if Tucker is turning left or not. Just one of those "time will tell" sort of things to see if he'll suddenly shill for the right again.
>>2776779They'd have to be retarded to not protect a nation so close to Amerikkkan borders that is also anti amerikkkan.
>>2776787
Marx supported Britain and France in the Crimean War. He even cucktinposted about how London didn't go too hard on Russia because capitalists prioritize deals over victory
>>2776779Gusanos are so cucked that Russia will take their place.
Gusanos can't stop taking L's.
>>2776748Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 11: "You never like to say too early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
Mar 24: "We're making progress."
Mar 25: "They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I'm not
going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize."
Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we'll just keep blowing them away"
Mar 27: "We don't have to be there for NATO."
Mar 29: Talks are progressing.
Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
Mar 31: A deal is "very close" and Iran will "do the right thing"
Apr 1: "We'll see what happens very soon."
Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."
Apr 4: Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences.
Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."
April 7: "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will."
April 8: "We won by giving them what they want."
>>2776795>He even cucktinposted Based.
>>2776797Revolutionary defeatism is a sham and humbug unless it happens in the imperial core (it never does).
>>2776778
>capitalism/liberalism yet
its not about that. communists support capitalist states all the time. lenin was talking about supporting imperialist states. again, just read the fucking text
>>2776782
wrong iran is not imperialist
>>2776804
I am disappointed in Russia so yes.
>First time as a tragedy: Putin
<Second time as a farce: Trump
>>2776797
>No he didn't
<Among those who supported the British strategy were Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.[32] In his articles for the New-York Tribune around 1853, Marx saw the Crimean War as a conflict between the democratic ideals of the west that started with the "great movement of 1789" against "Russia and Absolutism". He described the Ottoman Empire as a buffer against a pattern of expansionism by the Tsar.[33] Marx and Engels also accused Lord Palmerston of playing along with the interests of Russia and being unserious in preparing for the conflict.[34][35][32] Marx believed Palmerston to be bribed by Russia, and shared this belief with David Urquhart.
>>2776813
>disrespected
who gives a fuck
>Russia
this is the iran thread
>>2776810it´s interesting that Marx didn´t see that Russia was always a buffer between Asia and Europe. That the existence of Russia was to deter Asian expansionism, and that's why Europe always looked at Russia with disdain.
Marx would be a campist telegramer today bashing cucktin and iranian reformists accusing them to be bought by CIA
>>2776818
lenin did not comment on that so appealing to him on those grounds is not an argument and you havent presented one outside that
The proletarians of USA, Israel, GCC and Iran should start having a dialogue among each other and issue a common statement against their bourgeois governments. Only proletarian internationalism can end wars.
In order for that to happen however, communists themselves must be clear eyed on the matter of imperialist wars. If communists themselves take the side of one of the bourgeois governments in this war, it's difficult to expect proletarians to act different. Given the fact that the proletariat is heavily under the control of bourgeois ideology.
marx would never be able to have the same impact today. he would just be a schizo with a blog or substack or youtube channel. or he would succumb to goon porn.
>>2776824
nope thats why he explicitly says "MUST render determined SUPPORT" ( material)
you havent posted a single text from lenin you are just lying
>>2776826
go ahead and cite your source marxists.org is free
>>2776800I am going to screenshot this for posterity.
>>2776612Keep reading the wikipedia pages retard, maybe the bits about privatization and corruption. Not to mention: who owns the copper futures and derivatives?
>>2776824
another episode of retard who says nothing and just speaks to hear himself talk
>>2776813
And "campists" talk about how good it is that the USA would lose.
>>2776835
oh i see you are trying to make anti-anti-imperialists look like fucking morons
great bit anon!
>if hormuz doesnt open, european airports are out of fuel in 3 weeks.
also from another article:
According to a report by the Financial Times, an unprecedented surge in demand from European and Asian refineries has triggered an explosive rise in the prices of spot oil cargoes.
Forties Blend, a key market benchmark, surged to nearly $147 per barrel, surpassing even the levels seen before the global financial crisis of 2008.
This is not a “simple” upward movement. It reflects panic in the physical market, where refineries are scrambling to replace volumes that have effectively become trapped in the Persian Gulf.
The tension has begun to erode even the core pricing mechanisms. Key hedging tools, such as Brent contracts for differences, have effectively “frozen,” as price spreads have surged beyond the limits the market can accommodate.
Experienced traders speak of unprecedented conditions, with transactions shifting outside organized markets — a clear sign that uncertainty has exceeded what the system can handle.
>>2776818
many times, communists parties have been used as a front for regime change operations, that never solved neither the class struggle, nor developed a class war in the imperialist nation.
the examples of one itaian communist party calling isis in Syria the proletariat revolutionary movement, the communist party in Venezuela choosing an anticommunist as their presidential candidate, Iraqi communist party calling the invasion of Iraq progressive because it wouldoverthrow Saddam, etc.
>Tucker Carlson, who parted with Fox News in 2023 after 14 years at the network, has now responded. He told Status, perhaps tongue in cheek, that he “loves” the president “more than ever,” despite his deranged outburst.
>“I feel sorry for him. The Israelis have him in a hammerlock,” he added.
Lol
>"Is Israel Blackmailing President Trump?" Tucker Carlson Fires Back With Explosive Newsletter - FULL TEXT"Establishment media never reports this, but the Israeli government has a storied history of blackmailing U.S. presidents, " wrote the conservative pundit
Establishment media never reports this, but the Israeli government has a storied history of blackmailing U.S. presidents. Perhaps the most jarring example occurred in the 90s, when Israel used recordings of a Bill Clinton-Monica Lewinsky phone sex session as leverage to pressure Clinton into releasing convicted spy Jonathan Pollard from prison.
We're not joking. That really happened. The phone sex story is worth remembering as President Trump attempts to end the Iran War. Like many other things Israel has done, it shows that America's "special ally" is willing to play very dirty to achieve its goals. Dark-money campaign contributions, extortion, physical threats, and even assassination.
In their anti-Christian worldview, the ends always justify the means. They have no issue destroying lives. Israel's current top priority is making sure Operation Epic Fury does not stop. They know the U.S. fighting their war for them is the best chance at expanding their borders and becoming a global superpower, and a peace deal would foil their plot.
Based on the country's past, its leaders are doubtlessly willing to push as hard as necessary to ensure the bloodshed continues. That could mean Clinton-style blackmail against Trump, or something far more morbid. We do not know for sure whether that is happening, but the mere possibility is haunting enough to keep the president up at night.
He is under a level of pressure that most people cannot fathom, with rabid Israel Firsters viciously harassing him any time he dares to stray even slightly from their favorite country's agenda. Their shameless pursuit is steadfast enough to make even a man like Donald Trump go mad. They are as persistent as any group in history, no matter how well the White House has treated them in the past. They are never grateful, they always want more, and they refuse to give the president even an inch of breathing room. It is an unrelenting full-court press.
We decided to write about this after Trump published a Truth Social post attacking our company, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones, each of whom supported him for years. Rather than engaging in petty name-calling, we want to give the president some grace. He is facing a level of pressure that is dark enough to make him abandon his campaign promises and morph into the precise kind of politician he once vowed to destroy. He would not have let that happen unless his personal stakes were really high. We hope he overcomes.
https://www.latintimes.com/israel-blackmailing-president-trump-tucker-carlson-fires-back-explosive-newsletter-full-text-596506c >>2776848
my point is, I don't blindly defend some communist parties, nor criticize governments that have repressed them. I need information to nuance and form a coherent opinion.
like literally, the communist party of Iran only exists in Europe. their vision is Eurocentric, and they believe somehow the Iranian government is a reprehensive as nato, us, eu, etc. absolute nonsense.
>>2776800This is beautiful. Like that newspaper's changing headlines as Napoleon got closer to Paris.
>>2776825That won't do anything because the military will just be ordered to destroy the proles.
The ruling class would rather rule over ashes then allow an organized resistance to their domination.
Good larp tho.
>>2776847Love me some chud on chud violence
>>2776781He figured out that Zionism is a dead end and just wants to protect his porky class interest in the long run. The guy has always been a reactionary, pro-Amerikkkan, Western chauvinist. This never changed.
>>2776860Good catch.
Make me waste 5 seconds on chatgpt. Already good for me to bother more.
>>2776866Kek this is epic, kinda surprised it still gets so many letters wrong.
>>2776869
Be honest, are Trumps tweets more coherent than the AI slop?
>>2776858
>even if they aren’t perfect we should still support them against repressive governments
I'd do so, when they nuance the origins of the contradictions in their states. As for now, the US is the main source of contradictions around the world. every other bourgeoisie government that is not part of the us empire has contradictions largely caused by the US. those communist parties want to solve those contradiction with class war? put the internal contradiction into context.
but they barely, if anything, do so. so in essence they exercise anti-dialectical-materialism, ergo, anti-communism.
I can put specific corruption cases, that resonates around these countries, where communists can be seen more like regime-change operatives but from the left, until the mask fells-off:
a communist party criticizes X bourgeoise government that has some nationalistic elements, the latter seeking for autonomous-sovereignty from the US neoliberal-imposed world-view (example: first thing al-ziolani does in Syria: privatize state-owned strategic industries). the critics comes, for example, from some corruption scheme. a corrupt individual takes a bunch of money, flees to Europe and the US, where he can't be touched. culprit for these communists: the state. real culprit? the brainwashing of the individuals that commit state treason and seek for eu/us capital hoarding, and capitalism dominance, cultural alienation and even their own (communist party) fault for not engaging more proactively with their own population.
I can tell you 100% that this case, though I stated 'it's specific' it repeats so much, it becomes a pattern, and basically defines what these communist parties have been doing, and frequently becomes the source of my rejection.
>>2776874Whats written there, i'm not turk
>>2776879Dunno, I guess something like "American military convoy got owned"
>>2776817thats my position, I wish more "campists" were like that instead of just braindead dickriders ("the ceasefire is actually super based my dude!1 you a hecking mossad if you disagree!")
>>2776805
>why are you supporting russia
name any other country thats helping cuba with oil so their hospitals work
>being a leftcom
aren't you a dengoid? for you even stalin would be a leftcom lol
>>2776887Felix vindicated as always
>>2776885remind me of what happened after the last time Iran agreed to a ceasefire
Nowhere in the middle east will be liveable or workable in 30 years, everyone from Iran and the Arab world will all be forced to move to northern Europe by climate change, what good does this victory or national sovereignty do in that context?
>>2776875
jannies deport this shitskin back to the scalding hot ruins of gaza so a chinese-manufactured idf drone can disintegrate him for antisemitism
>>2776892>>2776883Don't project your backseating, dumb asshole. Nobody praised the ceasefire.
>>2776916
Nope. There was a fuckload of seethe about Iran "cucking out", and some admission, that sure, war is bad, peace is good, in Iran's eyes, plus it's a victory for Iran, if US actually accepts all the points.
That's it. Nobody was praising it, just seething and consneeding.
>>27768748 trillion dollars, 5 million lives and 20+ years later and nothing has changed
>>2776917They are there because israel is pausing hammering
>>2776913>Nobody praised the ceasefire.There are posts on this very thread saying the ceasefire is le good. Look how everyone crashed out at this post
>>2776096 >>2776360>That's just civilizationally suicidal but that's what pacifism is. thats not what pacifism is. Pacifism is about preventing war happening by attacking the root causes of conflicts early through diplomacy and negotiations rather than just rearming and escalating rhetoric. Not that it means its perfect but pacifists thinkers are not just idealist idiots that just think you should let yourself be killed, many pacifist figures were actually competent diplomats and politicians that understood that you have to actually take the other party needs and concerns seriously to find some acceptable common ground that prevent escalation rather than simply protecting the interests of your capitalists and rabid nationalists by accepting the inherent risks of considering war for them as an adequate solution.
and christ did say to turn the other cheek
>Someone who calls themselves pro-life but makes an exception this whole line of argumentation is retarded, most ideology do not push for ridiculous maximalist inflexible interpretation, even many pro life idiots will accept abortion in some cases, (rape, health risk for the mother, doomed genetics child, morning after pill), this does not make it internally illogical, they just draw the line somewhere else according to the reason that pushed them to this position in the first place
>>2776897
>China supports Cuba
Cuba needs oil, the rest of the "humanitarian aid" is mostly symbolic, all the "progressive" goverments in the region like Mexico and Brazil cucked out, and as far as I know China hasn't sent any oil. Only Russia has done that, despite being a reactionary conservative goverment they outflanked the rest of the world on this.
>>2776931
>nobody says
I don't care what they say or don't say, merely how they behave.
They can even repeat the phrase all they want, but it would be mechanical, without any understanding what it means, or what it entails.
>>2776899Including Palestine. That's why climate change is the mother of all fights
>>2776934Mexico has sent oil to Cuba
>>2776927I would disagree there. What you're describing at the beginning is exactly what Catholic just war philosophers think, that diplomacy should be utilized to its fullest extent. Christian pacifists actually are a thing but they're in the minority in the Catholic philosophical tradition. I do interpret pacifism in that maximalist way because if you start making exceptions, it ceases being pacifism. That's why Gandhi is a logically consistent pacifist, anything else is just an acceptance of just war theory. IIRC Erasmus of Rotterdam draws near to that but I don't know if he was completely opposed to war, I know he held that view with Christians waging war against other Christians but I'm not sure if he did on wars against Muslims.
In Catholicism someone claiming to be pro-life but who makes exceptions in some cases would cease to be considered pro-life. All abortion is murder in Catholicism, even Pope Francis remained consistent on that issue, condemning abortion for any reason.
>and christ did say to turn the other cheekI never claimed otherwise.
>>2776950>April 1stREADING COMPREHENSION IN THE TOILET
>>2776954>>2776958Why are you being retarded on purpose? You can just go watch the OG conference Sheinbaum gave (turn on the subtitles if you don't speak Spanish)
>April 1stApril Fool's isn't a thing in Latinx America
>>2776724
sinbad call everyone here leftychud, prolly because hes an ex-poltard that think chud is a term of endearment and not reserved to polyps
>>2776967lmao she has been saying she will send oil for months and never does, the only country that has helped Cuba with oil to this date is Russia
>>2776972
Where I am from they use December 28th, I don't think I've ever seen any use of April 1st for jokes. Maybe in other countries they do it.
>>2776961
y si paso o no? pruebalo
>>2776760
you have no idea what campism is you retard
>>2776774
no you're a moron. Its not about capitalism but inter-imperialism conflict
>>2776782
but not an inter imperialist one. You're so retarded you also have no idea what imperialism is apparently you useless theorylet. go read a book
>>2776972
mexico is not south america
>>2776784
>denying reality because you're shown as an illiterate idiot
>>2776787
read a fucking book before trying to argue theory you fucktard
>>2776989
if you cant see how this very quote prove you wrong you're beyond any hope, just kys already
>>2776967This news is old is my point. Give me updates leftychud.
>>2777005Captain, make an actual thread for this topic.
So what's with the soyjak spam? Some butthurt Israeli?
>>2776825>The proletarians of USA, Israel, GCC and Iran should start having a dialogue among each other and issue a common statement against their bourgeois governmentsoh yes, and there should be a spontaneous and pacific global overthrow of capitalism tomorrow
you fucking useless retarded clown
>>2776826communism is about analyzing world historical processes and using that knowledge to build a movement to eventually liberate humanity through revolution by the proletarian class, not about meaningless "support" to people you vibes with based on label and moralism, something lenin understood and you obviously dont
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