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>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™
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>>2774337 artemis splashes down in 5 minutes
>>2777189
do you think the ussr and china are bourgeoisie
Absolutely amazing camerawork on that landing, holy fuck. Straight out of a movie.
Well, the new space race is on. Unironically. The Chinese are already watching and planning their first manned lunar mission in 2030.
>>2777227
>hasan
Dr. Yi steadied her breath as the dust of the red planet swirled around the landing craft, a crimson storm bowing to her arrival. The engines fell silent, and for a moment, the vast red planet seemed to hold itself in anticipation. Then, with deliberate resolve, she stepped onto the rust-colored soil,her boot imprinting not just the ground, but history itself. The planet stretched endlessly before her, a frontier no longer distant but claimed through courage, discipline, and vision. Behind her visor, her eyes burned with quiet determination; she carried with her the strength and ambition, a force that had propelled her across the void. The radio cracked with booming voice as she rammed the flag pole into the ground: "Women once held up half the sky, today they haved reached beyond it and claimed the stars."
Holy fuck that space craft is charred as fuck. Thermomanagement is such an annoying issue. Build that space elevator already.
Cannot explain to you how little I care about space now that Katy Perry is an astronaut
>>2777247
>Literally ww3 and people being genocided all over the place being pushed to completely inhumane conditions
>Top concern Jewish people's feelings
Lol kill yourself man
>>2777254
No one was doing this anywhere. I read the thread. You got butthurt about Israel being said to have any fault at all.
>>2777189
>We will pay our harsh penalty and everyone will cry that it was deserved.
Harsh penalty? At worst Americans are getting a long due slap in the wrist. Yeah we should do something about our pedophile ruling class of demons that lie everyday and steal. I’m American, I love America and I feel like one of the few people that actually love this country. I don’t want to become a stupid fascist shithole reviled by the while world.
https://theconversation.com/a-senior-iranian-cleric-thinks-trump-is-the-muslim-antichrist-who-is-this-figure-al-dajjal-277976A senior Iranian cleric thinks Trump is the Muslim Antichrist. Who is this figure, al‑Dajjāl?
>Many in the Iranian leadership believe the war launched by Israel and the United States in February is the war of the end times: the final showdown with the US – the Great Satan – and al-Dajjāl – Donald Trump.
>Iranian senior cleric Ayatollah Seyyed Hassan Ameli declared Donald Trump “al-Dajjāl” – the Muslim equivalent of the Antichrist, in a sermon.
<Trump “is completely one-eyed, and this is a sign of the end times,” he said. (Being one-eyed is a key marker of the Dajjāl.) And Trump “sees the world through a material lens” and “covets wealth wherever it exists – whether it’s Middle Eastern Oil, Syrian oil, or Ukraine’s minerals”.[…]
>The Dajjāl, or “the Deceiver”, is an evil figure, a false messiah who will emerge in the End Times.
>He will promise power and prosperity, before being ultimately defeated by a righteous leader. Appearing during a period of great tribulation, he will be followed by the Jews and will claim to be God in Jerusalem. He will work false miracles, and most people will be deceived.[…]
>He is described as large and stout, of a red complexion. He is also blind in one eye (perhaps only metaphorically). He will have big, curly hair. While the Christian Antichrist is predicted to appear with his name, or the number 666, on his forehead, the Dajjāl will have the letters of the word “kafir” – or “disbeliever” – on his.Trump’s more orange than red, but Hegseth could be redfaced from all the drinking and has the word “kafir” tattoo’d on his arm in Arabic.
>>2777261>le clericsThe army is in charge from now on.
>>2777260
You are an adl shill saying if people talk about Israel they mean Jews. Your views are anti-semitc saying Israel represents Jews.
>>2777301
You literally said people were talking about Jews when specifically only Israel was mentioned. You conflate Jews with Israel. Typical ADL talking points. You even said "da joooz" when Jews were never mentioned. This stuff is pathetic man
>>2777277them digits though
>>2777328
>>2777330
don't bother, polfags play dumb
You fags need to research this. This is not schizo. It's quite a rabbit hole
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paolo_ZampolliGet to work on this lads
>>2777386
Socialism
>>2777398
There is nothing worse than American evangelicals bro. You are not going to convince me to put Catholics on even ground with them thru semantics
>>2777409
Its not the current thing. I live near a lot of Catholic churches who help immigrants all the time for free. Shelter them, help with paper work, cloth and get them services
>>2776202Interesting the only two regions with consistently stable birth rates are Israel and the countries of Central Asia. Even secular Jewish families in Israel have maintained a steady birth rate of around 2.2 for decade.
>>2776121Central Asia managed it through a somewhat unusual mix of socialism and nationalism.
>>2777423Democratic politicians are cowards, they have always been that way.
>>2777441You gave me another reason to kill myself, thank you
>New Evidence Further Implicates U.S. Missiles in Strikes That Killed 21 Civilians in IranAdditional images and video build on an earlier analysis, which the Pentagon has disputed, showing Precision Strike Missiles, or PrSMs, hit a sports hall and residential areas in the Iranian city of Lamerd.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/10/world/middleeast/iran-us-missle-strike-civilians-lamerd.html >>2777420gubbermints gonna start human printer go brrrr in next 2 generations and justify it with "muh natsec strategic advantage"
>>2777441>Jim Caviezelhahahahahha that's the dude that played Jesus Christ in Passion of the Christ
>>2777441>jim caviezelThe Jesus guy? lmao
>>2777171>>2777168>>2777111fire insurance fraud ✅
framing employee with AI ✅
destruction of supply meant to raise prices ✅
>>2777482Why would I hate this guy? He fleeced the fuck out of the state.
>>2777485
It's Chuddette anon
>>2777549Who's the bitch hosting this
>>2777582>winged golden statute of liberty make an arc with the heads of politicians on pikes
>>2777582Very Bonapartist, but need some golden arches on the sides in place of military victories.
>>2777582At least napoleon won some battles, the fuck does trump get an “arc de triomphe” for? Losing in iran?
>>2777607Sounds like we're going to have to start another war
>>2777629idpol was never a marxist thing, why would you bring him up
>>2777639it's common even from people who are nominally marxist. see for a somewhat related example the left's response to the gaza genocide and ongoing war in iran. not saying this to be contrarian, these are both overwhelming problems, but they were still not addressed with a proper materialist analysis in favor of wishcasting on particular nation-states and blaming others for the situation we find ourselves in (i.e. the application of this bourgeois subjectivity framework to international conflict)
>>2777647>Go on […] 4chanISHYGDDT
>>2777647I mean what do you expect? Anyone who is left on 4chan that isn't an LLM has a brain indistinguishable from one.
>>2777657same applies to this place
>>2777700Dude was black in an article I read yesterday, thought it was weird because the guy in the video was White. Then I realized it’s a psyop.
>>2777700the only two yanks I respect
I wonder who will get the lucky get
>>2777759
It's coming
>>2777759
It's gonna be a sharty poster, isn't it
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP
get
FUck Israel, fuck Amerikkka
>>2777777Perfect. Enjoy the slop idiots.
>>2777782
not a sharteen. I dedicate this one to the leftcom posters on Iran general
>>2777786Obsessed brimdstone
>>2777787
brap predates soy culture
>>2777788not talking about you mexican boy but the anon who kept posting war on terror bangers a few weeks ago
Brap is /intranshumanist speak doe
>>2777853We Shartycuck only figured this out 20 posts before the get
>>2777826By 2040/50 the us is either gonna go communist or fascist(even though it’s aleeady fascist)
>>2777861Nah, it will he the same liberal democracy with the same constitution going through the same bullshit until the sun burns out
>>2777853there's an even better get coming up on 'beria, all sevens
>>2777865Doubt that as China is rising and the us is collapsing there’s going to be a civil war by like 2040/2050 similar to how the Soviets collapsed but not
>>2777870This our resistance dawg. Man it’s actually over.
>>2777870What a waste of fucking time "protest"
>>2777871Americans don’t know their neighbors, you need to actually live in communities for a civil war to happen
>>2777777A get worthy of USApol
>>2777889True but eventually the imperialist boomerang will come back to bite the us and also Gen Alpha(the people who will probably start the revolutions and zoomers) already is pretty radical though usually what ever the current far right saying though Gen Alpha is still radical and that means left and right so…
>>2777900All the radicalism is fake and politics is just another entertainment subculture
>>2777902No it isnt Gen Alpha right now is “aggressive” and some is some isnt this is like the reverse cold war with the capitalists at a disadvantage instead of the communists
>>2777873>gifJacko-sama…. d-did you really end imperialism with the power of love and pacifism?
>>2777700we truly are in our narodnik era.
>>2777905They’re gonna grow up, get shitty jobs, drown themselves in distractions, and vote dem and nothing will change
Revolution wouldn’t change anything
>>2777915>They’re gonna grow up, get shitty jobs, drown themselves in distractions, and vote dem and possibly true
>nothing will changewrong, change is the only constant in the universe. situations always change no matter how stubborn people are about it. Each subsequent generation will be worse off than the last until something is done, and that is a form of change which leads to the fork in the road: Socialism or Barbarism.
>>2777915They might vote for one of there grouper “role models” though and there’ll probably be a revolutionary socialist United front whic will eventually become ml
>>2777922what motivates you to evangelize NEH so hard?
>>2777924True Gen Alpha and zoomers will probably lead the revolution against like nicks grouper army or do etching and some 3rd factions like militias state governments etc…
>>2777924Change is always fake in the end, only ever on the surface
>>2777927Because it’s true
>>2777929Gen alpha and zoomers will vape themselves into an early grave and grift online into the middle class
>>2777932So nothing has ever changed throughout all of recorded history?
>>2777932Just ignore the aes and former aes
>>2777935Doe will some won’t the contradictions will be so great it will impossible to ignore
>>2777870This is worse than no kings they’re dancing so that trump will release the files which no dem or rep will ever release them it would only take a revolution to do that
>>2777939So they take over amazon and walmart and then what? Where’s the economic basis for anything?
>>2777935Also the middle class isnt real you mean the lumpen or labor aristocracy which the latter is shrinking
>>2777870Epstein class status?
>>2777943They’ll probably do a violent revolution and take massive swaths KF territory
There will never be a revolution because any level of sincerity is cringe
>>2777948So what, go to war with China to get the factories back?
>>2777950>>2777932What the fuck is with the nihilism
>>2777953No they’ll probably get massive aid from China they’ll mainly take probably NYC and the west coast or the most “woke” areas
>>2777957Even though nihilists are teenagers not the other way around
>>2777956China will side with the US government against any insurgents which will never exist anyway, they did it with Nepal and the Philippines
>>2777958Politics doesn’t exist and won’t ever solve your problems
>>2777960That’s because they were Maoist. These revolutionary’s would be most likely a Union of anarchists mls maoists demsoc, other revolutionary socialists etc…
>>2777961Yes it does and it has for other people
>>2777962>>2777960Also the us is their number one enemy
>>2777965They produce all the walmart slop, without us they immediately go into an overproduction crisis
>>2777936The last original change was the agricultural revolution. Everything else has been a remix.
>>2777967Even though in 20-30byears they’d probably have the rest of the entire world as their ally
>>2777629interesting woman
>>2777970China doesn’t have allies, it has customers
>>2777975Which will become there ally’s and might be forced to become communist especially as China will probably find communist revolutions in Africa Latin America etc… or at least socialist non Leninist
>>2777977China is not the Soviet Union and they have no interest in the internal politics of potential customers for their slop
>>2777980Their customer are will become their ally’s though there foreign policy is defiantly not the best
>>2777399Both groups love molesting kids, the only difference is the Catholics do it behind closed doors and the protestants have purity balls.
Honestly insane how much good press the catholic church gets given they've molested more boys than Epstein.
>>2777629<Catherine Liu (born 1964) is an American cultural theorist and author whose areas of research include Sinophone cinema, French literature, critical theory, identity politics, and visual arts. She is known for her critique of the professional–managerial class. I will watch this later, for sure.
>>2778072She’s a liberalllll
>>2777647>/v/get a fucking life, hory shat
the only /leftypol/ approved boards are:
>/mu>/tv>/lit>/hisbut most importantly:
>/ck(because literal westoids complain there about the unaffordability crisis all the time)
>>2778076I like the “no set topic” and or “media” boards + the political ones
>>2777651this, but unironicalmente
>>2778076>the only /leftypol/ approved boardswho cares what socdempol approves
>>2777870If I wanted to make a movement look shit and limp dick and ridiculous I would tell them to do this
>>2777703very fukken bazed
>>2777746Most corrupt politician ever lmao. Makes the cartel associated mayor of the Mexican city I live in look tame in comparison.
>>2777747woud never fug, btw
>>2777870>dance the evil spirits away!!!Murrica is a pagan society, change my fucken mind
>>2777924diamat understander logged in
>>2778101All of this ineffectiveness comes from the hippies(which my grandmother is) which was funded by the cia to counter groups like cpusa(back when they were revolutionary
>>2778075Then I shan't watch her later.
Thank you for the heads up, comrade.
>>2778082shut up, leftcom
G E C i >>2777936Nothing ever happens because the only time something could "happen" it'd be a new universe since everything that appears to happen now is actually just the result of the singular happening 13 billion years ago
>>2778110I don't disagree with your framing, but I would like to highlight that beyond the obvious glowie interference, there's also the economic imperatives that drive this fucking """country."""
I would advise you against reducing complex situations and processes into a singular cause (le glowies).
The Parasite State of America (PSA) is literally a fucking economy which breeds school shooters, fentanyl-zombie neighbourhoods, and so on.
Please remain a Marxist and uphold the principle of the base determining the superstructure, and not the other way around.
denk u
>>2778138All of the people in this image should fucking die.
>>2778138who that hottie?
asking because i would
>>2778172What is the ideaology of your penis?
>>2777942there's footage of him shilling Hillary against Obama in 2008. it's really astonishing how anyone ever fell for his bullshit.
>>2778196erection
>>2778156Ayran is God-tier, ngl.
>>2778149I would like to put my baguette into her oven, if you know what I mean.
>>2778199NEHcels don't understand dedollarization or what it means
>>2777273
>undeserving
>morality
spooky. look. america will get boomerang'd because what goes around comes around, and because like you said the strong get lazy and the lazy get weak. but "deserves"? "morality?" spooks. the sooner people realize that (theory) the quicker they'll be capable of doing the work (practice) necessary to build an actual system with desirable outcomes for humans, by humans (communism).
>>2778207Americans. (schizos)
>>2778156>pictake me back
>>27782190 args, 1 catcphrase
>>2778221>take me backanon that was less than a month ago
>>2778224Very nostalgic for last week
>>2778224the vibes were completely different, its never been more over
>>2778224What a week huh?
>>277820320th century happenings:
>total bolshevik victory>total japan nuking>mfs inside rockets literally going to the moon for the first time in human history21st century "happenings"
>forever wars as always but people now use chinese currency instead of burger currencykek
happeningfags are desperate
>>2778233The loss of dollar hegemony is the 21st century equivalent to the Ottomans cutting off the Silk Road.
>>2778199>>2778234Good, we need a weak dollar to reshore manufacturing
The US empire has to die so the US can finally actually address its internal contradictions
>>2778199Let’s go the
AMERIKKKAN EMPIRE IS COLLAPSSING >>2778234Yeah kinda
>>2778233Something’s gonna happen in the first 25s years of 1900s we had ww1 and ussr
Can you guys imagine something like Pearl Harbor happening in this era? Imagine moooonitoring the situation back then… happeningfags didn't know how good they had it, the closest thing to that in our times was 9/11 which was just a fake and gay glowie psyop, sad
>>2778248They're gonna take away the ability to monitor when the global war starts gets serious anyway
>>2778255only corny ass uyghas listen to godspeed
>>2778259Being afraid of sincerity or corniness is corny in itself
>>2778233The Nixon shock of 1971 and the Petrodollar scheme is missing from your list of 20th century happenings
the unraveling of that is conversely the 21st century happening
>>2778255They nuked all their content from all music platforms. First artist I've seen actually follow their word at boycotting ReKKKord companies.
Benjamin Netanyahu is dead ww3 incoming
It's happening
Anyone have an info, reportbacks, texts, comments, zines, etc in relation to organizing in rural/semi rural republican heavy areas?
Basically of the DSA's resources are focused around winning in already blue-cities in blue states, and given the lack of chapter-to-chapter communication, we're basically on our own out here.
>>2778309Did they drop the charges?
>>2778199How should I react financially to this?
>>2778309I don’t know much readymade, but if you’ve got a specific subject in mind I can maybe try to write something to help you out. I think anyone willing to organize in rural areas is doing great work.
>>2778314Kill rich people and take their stuff
>>2778309Polk county florida isnt rural. I assure that convincing them to vote democrat after what you did will be impossible
>>2778309If you want to win in rural "Republican" areas, look for the people who don't vote, which is the people who work, which is most of the people. The reason those areas are "Republican" is because the land owners support the GOP. the people in the trailer parks, the people working on the farms, the people working on the prisons, are all """apolitical""" in the sense that they think politics as usual can do nothing to alleviate their suffering, and in that sense, they are correct.
>>2778365The people working on the farms most likely cant even vote so the DSA doesnt care about them
>>2778375i don't care. that's my advice. take it or leave it.
>muh vootingshouldn't be the end goal
>>2778366
both matter and both are decreasing. the whole reason people historically held dollar reserves in the first place was because they needed it to buy oil.
The US actively wants the dollar to weaken so that it's export become more competitive and imports become more expensive, basically like a hidden tarrif. People place too much faith on reserve currencies and dedollarisation. Remember that the US became a superpower while the Pound was the global currency. And on top of that, even if the US empire collapses it doesn't mean other competing imperialisms will vanish as well. On the contrary, they will grow in size to occupy spaces left by the US.
>>2778435>The US actively wants the dollar to weaken so that it's export become more competitive and imports become more expensive, basically like a hidden tarrif. This is a stupid strategy and time will reveal why. Ha Joon Chang talks about "pulling up the ladder." Empires typically are protectionist when they are first rising, in order to protect domestic industry against competition, and to increase export revenues, and make other nations dependent on their production. Once an empire is hegemonic it "pulls up the ladder" by preventing weaker rising nations from trying similar strategies. This is why the US was happy to be protectionist from the late 18th to the early 20th century but suddenly started forcing everyone else to adopt free trade policies, structural adjustment and privatization programs, etc. at gunpoint. This return to protectionism is actually a result of desperation, because the US became too dependent on foreign rising powers like China. But it's executing its return to protectionism in a completely idiotic way. It's doing superstructure before base. It's instituting tariffs without building productive forces. The US can't discipline its capitalist class and force them to back off of financialization and reembrace productive industrial capital because the latter has low profit rates due to automation, and will have even lower profit rates if they intend to compete with China. Unless America embraces a sort of "American Dengism" it will be completely unable to compete with the people it outsourced all the jobs to. But America isn't doing American Dengism. It's just spamming tariffs (in a very wishy washy way where it keeps backing off) and praying for the best.
>>2778442The US can also just end all life and civilization with a thousand nuclear weapons any time it wishes
>>2778454that's an even stupider strategy
>>2778442>It's instituting tariffs without building productive forces.That's the correct order yes. Capitalists won't invest if they can't make a profit, and tarriffs work as a measure to increase chances of profitability. It's also not the only tool. The way the US has gone about with tarriffs is just the very first step in a long series of potential steps. The US is aware of more effective methods like currency devaluation, capital controls etc. The random slapdash tarrifs is phase one. A far more effective tarrifs regime is just a flat tarrif on all imports regardless of origin. More effective than that is currency devalution, and taxing capital inflows. But the latter two will hurt financial profits(to the benefit of indistrial profits, so its being delayed till tarrifs are maxed out)
>>2778457It doesn’t need to be a strategy, just delete the game if you’re losing
Honestly you people laugh at toilet paper hoarders, but you really dont have enough toilet paper yourselves. The average person uses 1 roll per day. If you have a family of 4, that's 28 rolls a week. Over 100 a month. TP rolls will be worth their weight in gold in a few months, because everyone needs it.
>>2778482Maybe I should start taking some from my job
>>2778483I wouldn't recommend that. Toilet paper soaks up the DNA of everybody who touched it previously. By the time you are using the last few sheets it becomes pretty much a living being, carrying yours and family's vital inprints. By bringing TP from work to home you inadvertently infuse your coworkers DNA with your wives' vagina when she uses the TP to cream off the pee from her opening, ensuring that her egg infuses some of the coworker DNA into "your" next child.
Toilet paper is one of the most intimate tools in a man's home.
>>2778487Ahahah what the fuck that looks so bad
>>2778476the british declined and didn't decide to blow up the world over it
>>2778476being alive and #2 is better than being dead
>>2778487such expensive waste
>>2778554Gave me a good chuckle. Shit writes itself.
Israeli media and Israeli politicians are concerned that if Orban loses the election in Hungary, the EU could finally pass Union-wide sanctions on illegal settlements, settlers, and companies involved in settlement construction.
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/rylu17w211e#google_vignetteOrban is their man
>>2778596Of course, as is any islamophobe. Same goes for posters on this very site
Islamophobia = zionism
>>2778636Insanely based, though I have to point out a lot of the people at Nuremberg/Tokyo got away with joke sentences or even went back into politics later. And many of those that were guilty as sin were never tried in the first place. If you ask me the only sentence on the table at either trial should have been death by firing squad
>>2778632Tucker Carlson is now further to the left and less of a neocon than Richard Dawkins, Chris Hitchens, etc etc
>>2777947honestly, epstein would've enjoyed that video, and probably wank at it.
>>2778632American ᴉuᴉlossnW
Many warehouses have been burned in just 3 days. I guess Felix found his cadres
>>2779153tbh if he wasnt banned he would be saying that "the left keeps sitting on its hands while the masses applaud an angry employee for burning a warehouse"
>>2779146How many warehouses have been burned down?
>>2778309Are you not in polk county florida anymore? Are you actually in rural area or are you doing the democrat cope where they call any republican metropolitan area like polk county florida "rural?" If you are, then DSA is worst org you could possibly be in for multitude of reasons.
>>2778116He's lying. I watched her interviews, she brings up Marx multiple times and her work is focused on critique of liberals and PMC
Read her book it's short and concise in her hatred of them
>>2779383What's the story?
>>2778933>muh new atheismhasn't been relevant for 2 decades. parenti BTFO'd bitchens in that debate btw.
>>2779494Nightmare Blunt Rotation
>US Central Command says it will begin blockade of Iranian ports MondayISLAMABAD (AP) — U.S. Central Command has announced that it will begin a blockade of Iranian ports on Monday at 10 a.m. ET.
CENTCOM said the blockade would be “enforced impartially against vessels of all nations” entering or departing Iranian ports and coastal areas.
It said it would still allow ships traveling between non-Iranian ports to transit the Strait of Hormuz.
Traffic in the Strait has been limited even in the days since the ceasefire. Marine trackers say over 40 commercial ships have crossed since the start of the ceasefire.
https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-12-2026-a8a0d22918fc3fb30bc3abf1cd5c5a13Happening
>>2779432The difference is this time its by anrgy employees and uncontrolled
Thoughts on these polls? Should we form a United from of revolutionary socialists ml, Maoists, demsocs, etc…
https://www.racetothewh.com/president/2028/polls#google_vignette>>2779549
We should make a United front that runs elections to gain popularity but the main way would be waiting till the conditions are ripe enough to stage a revolution since we’ll never win an election
>>2779531>>2779546the key insight is that the bourgeoisie do this to get out of the crisis of overproduction resulting from the unplanned market economy. All the way back in 1799(!) Fourier was asked to oversee the destruction of a large amount of rice that had been held back from being sold because the prices got too low. The rice was hoarded in the middle of a famine until it became moldy and Fourier was asked to destroy it. This injustice made Fourier so angry that he began to conceive of a Utopian Socialist society.
>>2779533>The difference is this time its by anrgy employees and uncontrolledMarx in Volume 1 said that the luddites who destroyed the power looms were mistaken because they directed their anger against the instruments of production instead of the mode of production. It took time and experience for the workers' movement to learn the difference. Since the US labor movement lost its experience and knowledge since taft hartley, it will have to relearn these principles. Developed productive forces enables incredibly abundant commodities once you abolish capitalism and begin a socialist planned economy. This is because there will no longer be a crisis of overproduction. No incentive to hoard or destroy commodities if they get too cheap.
>>2779558
It would grow the movement as that’s how you get notoriety in the us
>>2779566What matters here is that people are so angry and desperate they are taking more extreme measures. The responsible wasnt thinking about Marxist theory when he lit the fucking warehouse
>>2779576The right's reputation is already in the toilet because of Trump, and the right has so fully wedded itself TO Trump that there's no exit ramp (until his death, which will lead to mass in-fighting).
>Orban lost
the JD curse strikes again
>>2779577Just about anyone can recognize they’re in pain or sick and try to treat it in their own way. The goal of socialist thought should be, like a doctor, to provide the correct treatment to cure the pain.
>>2779577>What matters here is that people are so angry and desperate they are taking more extreme measures.So were the luddites. But Marx criticized them nevertheless.
>he wasn't thinking about Marxist theoryyeah that's the problem. Correct practice arises from correct theory.
>>2779618
>if someone I don't like says 1+1=2 they are wrong
>>2779618
False
>>2779645According to random tweet I saw there are 1500 warehouse fires annually in US, so 7 in 3 days isnt out of ordinary.
>>2779648These are on purpose mainly by socialist workers so…
>>2779614>>he wasn't thinking about Marxist theory>yeah that's the problemif your theory isnt reaching the already angry workers its you thats the problem, not them not having the correct ideas on their mind, you have failed them
>>2779653
Stop baiting me go back faggot
>>2779653
parasites on who?
>>2779676
Hate to break it to you parasitism can't be done on an inorganic object
>>2779605And your party are the doctors in your mind? The workers are engaging in adventurism because orgs like yours are a fucking joke, do a bit of self-criticism please.
>>2779676
we serve the earth? what does that mean exactly?
>>2777870cont.:
libs are buying hundreds of dollars worth of dildoes and leaving them in an ICE detention facility.
>>2779691
i see. ok. i get it. totally. you need not say more. say no more.
>>2777870this shit is fucking hilarious. i love it.
>>2779700
PLUH!🗣️
>>2779712
does it go much further than that?
>>2779721
one might say one could say we'll fade away. we will be faded. than a ho lotta other things.ya feel me
>>2779653
AI are superior?
>>2779645This person is a fed
>>2779746
wild take considering surveillance of "pre threats" has been their thing since forever. they will be interested in whoever they want. one wrong sentence.
it literally makes more sense for them to target small people because they have no resources to fight back legally or socially. it fills prisons and gets them easy slam dunk cases against people who arent rich.
>>2779762Everything I don't like is a fed. Everything I like? Also fed
>>2779779I don't need a grifter to tell me water is wet
>>2779779UN circumcised fucking won
>>2779727
It would give us more attention you should ovviously do grassroots campaign but you should also at least have a candidate for President
>>2779804
It doesn’t matter if you lose the presidency you should at least try to get noterity since that’s how the us works you should obviously do grassroots/revolution though a candidate wouldn’t hurt
>>2779811
What harms does it do to run a candidate literally nothing
>>2779811
Liberal
>>2779819
>>2779823
It’s very good marketing Lenin supported running in elections
>>2779829>Lenin supported running in electionstrue but don't expect anyone here to actually read Lenin
>>2779830Fair
>>2779833Fuck you retarded ultroid
>>2779834so? Everybody does even the trotskyists do and they’re ultras!
>>2779844
They are all oppressed proletariat Marx beleive in the western working no matter how many flaws they had
>>2779694imagine all the guns and bullets that could be bought with that money
>>2779854
Marx was right it’s a stage just look at China you fucking moron
marx never hit the penjamin
>>2779860Only anarchist projects have achieved socialism
honkoid status?
>>2779866No it isnt China is socialist it justs trades with other nations
>>2779868Catalonia lasted a year and it betrayed all aspects of anarchism and bringing back a pseudo-government
>>2779866
cheap electric chinese cars exist in canada and mexico but not america, curious
>>2779851imagine all the dildos that can be bought with the US military budget
>>2779871honkin in tha free wolrd!!!!!
>>2779881
No it doesn’t it is a dictatorship of proletariat currently challenging us hegemony
>>2779885
Fed
>>2779888
Fuck you you aren’t even marxist
>>2779894
Kys liberal
>>2779905
wishing for THD is moralism more than nihilism
>>2779902
Underaged
I'm a trot
>>2779905
he spams this shit every day but earlier today he admitted he's from a petty bourgeois family and takes out his frustration on this imageboard because he hurt his ankle in a series of now deleted posts
>>2779908were the harlem globetrotters trots?
>>2779920
Total Human Death
>>2779918I really wonder if its really him who shitposts or somebody else does it for him
>>2779918Do this it be so fucking funny also
>weak on crimeHe’s the fucking pope what are you talking about
>>2779913You would think they'd want to be with their own kind. They should find a MAGA safe space to commiserate over wanting the end of the world
>>2779924Him since he sometimes talks about how he didn’t hear the Iran got the ships again or something
>>2779918pete hegseth was threatening to invade the vatican a while ago
>>2779927It's a pretty recurring thing that he sees himself as The Law, anyone that says or does anything that goes against what he wants is now illegal in his eyes
Is it crazy to think that Trump is just an actor and he doesn't have a single idea of what he's doing but he's just blindly following a script from the elite?
>>2779939 (me)
Kind of like The Patriots control everything in Metal Gear Solid, even who gets to win the elections.
>>2779939He acts just like Nicholas 2 who was a micromanager of trifles (like the ballroom) and does whatever the last person suggests he does
>>2779939It's the same thinking that conspiracy theorists find comfort in, the idea that everything is planned by somebody or some people. It's not exactly accurate though, systems (historical materialism for example) are really the things in play and humans are just along for the ride.
>>2779939the harlem globetrotters. who are trotskyists and globalists and reside in harlem NY are manipulating him from BEHIND the scenes
>>2779952
You wanna swish around in my mouth a bit more see if you can shove some more words in there? There's a difference between actual evidenced conspiring and conspiracy theorizing.
>>2779945>>2779944Thanks comrades. I will actually read more about historical materialism before making an opinion
>>2779959A theory proves itself via evidence. Stop misusing words you don't even understand. There are conspiracy theories which have been historically verified, such as Operation Northwoods, or the Epstein Files. The latter of which you will certainly downplay with your midwit "skepticism".
>>2779964>>2779970https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory Don't even need to read more than 2 paragraphs, damn you people are lazy. A scientific theory is vastly different than a conspiracy "theory", it may as well be called a conspiracy hypothesis.
>>2779975you know it's legal to own guns and bullets right
What has been the smartest conspiracy (that we know of) that the ruling has ever come up to in history?
>>2779982false flags in general work great. get the population mad at some group of people other than the ruling class by framing them.
>>2779982The whole Epstein fiasco.
Not that it isn't an important thing, but the focus on it is kind of the ruling class's way of laughing at you, because in reality they have many other islands that nobody knows about as of now, and there are other Epsteins, so to speak.
>>2779992It's more like the 4chan Reich honestly.
>>2779992Definitely not the brightest conspiracy
>>2779987Nah the case brought massive exposure on the systematic sexual abuse that rich individuals commit. They most definitely did not want that to happen. During the Bush and Obama times you'd just be seen as a schizo for bringing up these things.
>>2779993it's kind of funny how so many imageboard users use "reddit" as an insult while most of reddit doesn't think about imageboard users at all.
>>2780001"Reddit" just means "anything I don't like" most of the time. There are reasons to hate Reddit (the obnoxious liberal humanism is one) but this is not one of them.
>>2780001>reddit doesn't think about imageboard users at alluhh the 4chan subreddit has like a million people on it
>>2779992Reddit reich with sharty characteristics
>>2780004that's just the reddit that 4channers go to when they get banned from 4chan
>>2780004>uhh the 4chan subreddit has like a million people on ityeah and it's a place where reddit normies laugh at funny 4chan moments together instead of seething about other places on the internet
>>2780012It's kinda crazy that those two countryball edits are probably around a decade old by now
>>2780012Saudi Arabia was behind 911? How true is this?
>>2780015Saudi Arabia is loyal to Israel and the United states. 15 of 19 of the hijackers were saudi. osama was saudi. many of the hijackers also had mossad connections, because israel is very good at paying moles in the arab states. wahhabism was propped up by the british empire against the ottomans, and then by the americans against the soviets. wahhabism is an anti-modern reactionary force full of useful idiots for US/Israeli intelligence, and the saudi royals are all opportunists and pedos.
>>2780020Sorry. George H.W. Bush attended a Carlyle Group conference on September 10, 2001 (not September 11), where members of the Binladen family were also present as investors. Still….
>>2779918Who the helll is Louis?
>>2779982The idea of humans as naturally evil, greedy, selfish, violent, etc (and not naturally communistic and egalitarian) and ergo that capitalism is the natural outcome of this and wasn't artificially installed by force of arms and merchants. There's basically been a war in the academia over this subject.
>>2779992>>2779918Thank you God for answering my prayers
>>2777393 >>2779918How are MAGA "Catholics" coping?
>>2780042humans aren't "naturally" either of those things because human nature is a spook. humans keep changing and evolving. if you have an environment that kills egalitarians and rewards sociopaths, you artificially select for sociopaths and over the generations humanity will become more sociopathic. unfortunately capitalism is such an environment.
>>2780047Usually they respond with “Oh this is just an awful left wing pope that we have to ENDURE”
>>2779918Does Donny really think this silly passive aggressive manipulation will work in his favor? His approval rating is under water in every category. A small cult of devotees, around ten percent of the country, are all that remains of maga.
>>2780038that shut anon up. where'd he go? no "thanks for the source?"
>>2779975omg omg omg, an anon accused me of being a fed!! it's my first time!
>>2780075They never cared about the source, they were just upset someone else called out conspiracy theorists earlier in the thread
>>2780044he made a larger rant.
>>2780083honest to
god godtrumpedo, I searched and didn't see the post. and I still fucked it up lawl
>>2780081 >>2780015>Saudi Arabia was behind 911it's so true, that it was a contending point for trump's campaign in 2016. and despite of rallying on making Saudi Arabia pay for their connections with the attackers and plan, he then delayed the documents related to the case
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-faces-pressure-to-release-9-11-related-documents-11567784751 (archive
https://archive.is/wu1WC) and even said publicly in an small chit chat with reporters during his first presidency, after he reached a 400bn USD deal with Saudi Arabia where the Saudis were committed to buy that much of US military equipment, that "the saudis have a lot of money and we need it", dismissing the 9/11 case.
it was all abandoned, the FBI having an immense vault of documents unreleased, and the little documents released were highly redacted.
>>2780098
I believe Marx predicted this somewhere in Volume one of Capital. It was in the back I think.
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>>2780086Aside from the typical strawman attack against perceived enemies I don't understand what this is a response to. I saw a cardinal say the war was 'morally illegitimate' here
https://www.vaticannews.va/en.htmlAnd I remember his threat to genocide Iran was 'unacceptable'. I think that's basic common sense. I think Donald needs a str8 jacket.
>>2780095it's not merely that the "saudis did it" that's too simple. it's that 15 of the hijackers were saudi, osama was saudi, a lot of the hijackers were mossad connected, bush family was connected to the saudi-binladen company since the 70s, George HW Bush met with the carlyle group including a bin laden family member sep 10th 2001 ………and larry silverstein got a 4.5 billion dollar insurance payout for 9/11 after buying the towers only a few months before the attacks, despite knowing they legally required billions of dollars in renovations due to the illegal asbestos that was still within them. lucky larry turned two huge liabilities into an asset through insurance fraud.
>>2780111Don't forget rumsfeld and wtc7…
The "art students" …
>>2780118
Hahaha
>>2780111you know, I remember reading somewhere that trump received a large bribe from the saudi prince, mbs, coffers filled with gold ingots at some point, I don't remember the place I read about that (was it a Russian website?). that was during the first presidency, so trump is basically bribed by the israeli and the saudis (same thing now?).
>>2777441hopefully it goes as well as their misadventures in hungary
>>2780015>Saudi Arabia was behind 911? How true is this?>>2780111>it's not merely that the "saudis did it" that's too simpleI don't think it was "Saudi Arabia" either, more Saudis who were inside the system. I'm an ignorant American about how that worked, but it didn't really function like a modern "state," the Saudi monarchy basically made a deal with the religious establishment to handle a lot of things like the courts, and overseas Muslim affairs and the foreign ministry were also intertwined. There were legitimate jihadi / Ikhwan types in Saudi Arabia who didn't like the monarchy dealing with the Americans, and they had also penetrated the foreign ministry which provided cover for the 9/11 hijackers and made it easy for them to travel under diplomatic cover, find housing, etc.
Also these guys starting blowing up stuff in Saudi Arabia after 9/11 and the Saudis began cracking down after that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_compound_bombingsAnyways a lot of what has happened in Saudi Arabia is really MBS squashing those people. It has transitioned into a weird and rather baroque absolutist regime now.
Now that Russia is sending ships to Cuba with oil for the second time, shouldn’t Mexico and Brazil resume sending oil to Cuba?
https://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/736907372/v/ is claiming that the doorbell chud is a leftist. Is there any proof of this?
>>2780414legit who cares its clearly just a mental break
>>2780414if there was proof they would have posted it
>>2780451I wonder what is the plan with this post. Like is he making everyone go against purposely? Or he really thought this would be welcome by his cult? Am I thinking too much about this circus?
>>2780458Narcissist loves pictures of himself depicted as Jesus. Its not that complicated.
>>2780458prots eat this shit up they already think god acts through the body of trump
>>2780451Is he healing jeffery epstine?
>>2780458It's a humiliation ritual for his followers, he's done it several times already where he does some absolutely egregious shit that contradicts what MAGA is supposed to stand for, some influencers are outraged, and then they get their marching orders from the White House and they're all back on the same page a few hours later. Seems this time he went to far though because he actually deleted that post
>>2780486What about the Sydney Sweeney Euphoria ageplay thing?
>>2780458Hi following sees him as a demigod. Fucking weird.
It's what the U.S said it will never do, and here we are.
>>2780492None of that matters.
>>2780509to cause schizo melties
>>2780509It's the same hair accessory a the statue of liberty, it's not that deep. The left one has better quality so that's the real funny. Staff in the white house don't know how image quality works like most old people.
>>2780458you know the scene in salo where the fascists shit on a plate and make their victims eat it, and they happily comply, it's like that, but more metaphorical, and happening IRL
>>2780090i saw it in another thread and reposted it. that anon could not give me a source
>>2780509Because he is the Antichrist.
>>2780512Statue of Liberty is already in both images why put another?
>>2780523not the anon, but having fucked with AI before, when you ask it to regenerate the same image several times it sometimes adds weird new things you didn't ask for. especially if you're not careful with prompting. that's my normie pilled explanation. i don't have a more schizo explanation because that would require me to make leaps in interpretation and assumptions about intentions. these people are sickos obviously, but who knows
why they do anything?
>>2780523Because Trump is a boomer. More American symbols = more gooder.
>>2780520Here's some theory for you.
>>2780530>Here's some theory for you.I'm not a zogger, you still are epstein for using the thought terminating cliche "its not that deep"
remove it from your vocabulary if you want to stop being epstein
>>2780524Why would he regenerate the same image
>>2780532Maybe I should have been more careful with my word choice. It is, in fact, quite deep. The global economic system is a very deep subject and the intersection of that with military capabilities of each country is even more so. None of it requires people in the American government to be satanists or cultists. It is almost an insult to the idea of actual analysis based on material reality. Trump has been saying they should take Kharg Island since the 90s.
>>2780519Yup, like I said
>>2780486It's a humiliation ritual and a test of loyalty. After all, the God Emperor said it was just meant to represent him as a doctor. Dont you know all doctors have glowing hands? Who are you going to believe, your president or your lying eyes?
>>2780493and it is all powered by resentment
>>2780481LOL thats what I was thinking too
>>2780533idk… what's your contrary theory
>>2780555after he dies he wants there to be a big book full of every stupid thing he ever said that sells more than the bible because he has to have the biggest and the best book
>>2780563He could just hire someone to write him an infinite jest like the DEA hired Wallace, there are tons of books larger than that but you only hear about that one because it was pushed into pop culture artificially
>>2780567Trump could post a clip of himself twerking in bikini over the declaration of independence and amerimutts will still not do the normal thing and start a mass insurrection against their government
this isn't even like a hypothetical technical catechism, we're way past that level of overstepping, amerimutts are just docile slaves, curse and damn all americans for allowing this shit to happen
>>2780569America needs a foreign intervention to be toppled, Americans are refusing to overthrow their own bourgeois government, the USSR and the Comintern have spent COUNTLESS RESOURCES trying to back revolutionary movements in the US tied to struggles of the marginalized and they have blundered for nothing.
>>2780537>None of it requires people in the American government to be satanists or cultists.I agree but just because its not necessary it doesn't mean it won't happen. I don't undertand why people find the idea that some individuals that are part of rulling class fall for the same dumb shit that the lower classes do so offensive or crazy, they are a bunch of hyper spoiled neposhits that have been very detached from the world outside their bubbles all of their lives, it wouldn't surprise me at all that some unironically believe in magic and other nonsense
>>2780577>ruling class believing in magicI mean Trump obviously engages in magical thinking. According to Radio War Nerd, when Tucker Carlson called him up and tried to plead with him not to bomb Iran Trump eventually just reassures him with.
>”It’ll be fine. It’ll work out because it always does!” >>2780576nah inflation and scarcity is the empire killer, just ask the tsar
>>2780581>I mean Trump obviously engages in magical thinking.>>”It’ll be fine. It’ll work out because it always does!”yeah exactly
irrationalism already comes baked in into bourgeise ideology in general but some get more extreme, like the Nazis (or at least some of them) famously believed in some extremely schizo shit, but when people point out something similar happens in the burgerreich you are "insulting material analysis" or something lol
>>2780598people assume rational actors then will tell you straight they're following the "logic of capital" as if that doesn't imply some sort of weirdo superstructure
>>2779987>>2779998They want you broke, dead your kids raped and brainwashed and they not only think it's funny, everyone can see it in plain sight now and the consensus is to just shrug and write off anyone who cares about it as stupid and irrational
>>2780654
We think Israel is about to invade us so much that we almost forgot to facilitate their oil supply
>>2780639
pick a thread and stick to it
What would happen if Israel attacked burgerville?
>>2780661presinald trunt would say thank you
>>2780643>Dead Internet Theory is realer than you could ever imaginebro we're all bots
who tf are you talking to
>>2780639>Islamist Turkeydamn it's crazy how the most secular and natbooj Muslim-majority countries keep getting targeted by the US and Israel while Wahhabist monarchists in Saudi Arabia are are seen as allies. If only there were some kind of materialist explanation for all this
cough
>>2780019 >>2780111>J Street defends cutting all aid to Israel
okay, something's off. what's happening?
>>2780695i think its as phoney as all of a sudden you have established figures in israel complaining about 'Jewish terror' in the West Bank.
>>2780695aid is the key word, they want to remove the notion by people like Tucker that Israel is manipulating the US or is acting out of line of US interests by making sure that Israel buys their weapons instead of getting them for free.
>>2780695jstreet was always the less radical of the jewish interest groups
now that the dust has settled what was that shit melania pulled about?
>>2780724Iranian propaganda dept just unstoppable lately.
>>2780773Heard some people suggest it was kind of a reminder from Israel about blackmail. "You try to ditch us during the war we'll release the Epstein photos"
>>2780773Melania's trying to get into some kind of wit ess protection program.
>>2780773it was timed with amanda ungarn she was a model who was trafficked thru epstein's network and married off to some guy who was in with epstein and trump. she knew melania for 20 years and said she was going to drop a load of dirt on them.
>>2780532> thought terminating cliche "its not that deep"You are using Epstein as thought terminating cliche. You are Epstein and the FED and possibly the anti-christ too.
>>2780598>>2780617I think one of the most frustrating things to encounter is leftist spaces is that a lot of people imagine the Capitalists read Marx and Lenin and are just like "Okay, cool, I'll play the part of the exploitative Capitalist."
Like I think a lot of these guys believe in irrational, frankly idiotic stuff. I heard this anecdote once of a rich guy getting so upset that some employees asked for a raise, he looked into some machines to replace them. He'd go around claiming "It's important to own your money." Even if it meant spending more on a machine + maintenance than a raise for employees.
>>2780446>>2779992he had to delete it, lmao.
>>2780844lmaooooooooooooooo
>>2780878in the og pic he looks like hes healing epstein
>>2780889There are tons of groups trying to fill the space of the old International but the thing is there are just as many parties in single states, so what authority they have (minus places like China, Cuba, and the DPRK) barely exists.
Like having something functioning as the international in the modern day, I think, would be near impossible. Best I could imagine would be an online forum that accepts all tendencies and has elected representatives maybe meeting in person to act as envoys for collective statements/calls to action.
Even then I’d see it falling into infighting and splitting.
>>2780878>>2780844>>2780878these edits are too funny lmao
>>2780958It's cute how they think Iran instigated global economic terrorism when that's been the president's entire shtick this term.
>>2780581Americans have this magical thinking because everything does work out for them. Consequences of war never touch them, they get infinite money, their vassals are always up to sacrifice themselves. Even when America "loses" they dont' really.
Revolution status?
>>2781020Somewhere over a rainbow
>>2780889it has been promoted by various left/wing groups in Latin America, yes. it's real.
>>2781042The future is fine.
These people see the declining rate of profit and want to FUD themselves into a national security, state granted monopoly which would naturally extend to hardware. Being AI techbros, they are on a tighter schedule than say, telecoms. AT&T isn't gonna turn to dust if it fails to secure a government mandated monopoly on all telephony services and hardware before the end of the decade. But most of these AI companies might. Especially because their own investment bubbles drive R&D and open source. Then those smaller projects compete with the big AI companies' "flagship" chatbot toys on very unequal grounds and make the latter's billions of investment seem pointless for a marginally better generative toy result. Than what can be built with a few million.
The average user of AI does not benefit at all from whatever any of these companies could do for the US government. Or with those trillions of $ they keep paying each other in circles.
>>2781042This is marketing. Please stop falling for it.
>>2781058
This glowie still slobbers on Trump despite being humiliated by him in a truth social post.
>>2780958>we're fighting terrorism, WITH terrorism!fixed
>>2781106
The redscare sub is so fucking funny sometimes. I love every time there's a subreddit for a podcast, it detached entirely from the hosts of the pod and turns into a clique of whatever kind of people founded it.
>>2781109Like the majority of posters in the redscare sub think Dasha and Anna are retarded but the vibe is cool so they stay just to hang and talk shit lol
>>2781112It's slow and jannies are asleep. Fuck it
>>2781109Yea, the "Well There's Your Problem" community is a bunch of Nazlibs. It's totally different than the opinions of the actual podcast.
>>2781124Yea, but that's only because November is probably a glowie.
The commentators get pissy if you tell them that there are way more Nazis in Ukraine than in Russia.
Also they got triggered when I said "partner" is a reactionary capitalist term.
Good/Communist: 🇵🇸🇮🇷🇷🇺🇨🇳🇰🇵🇧🇫
Evil/Nazi: 🇮🇱🇺🇸🇺🇦🇯🇵🇪🇺🇰🇷
It's that simple.
>>2781126>November is probably a glowie. I've suspected it more than a few times
>The commentators get pissy if you tell them that there are way more Nazis in Ukraine than in Russia. yeah
>Also they got triggered when I said "partner" is a reactionary capitalist term.business partner and life partner don't mean the same thing lol
>>2781135>business partner and life partner don't mean the same thing"Partner" is used by cops, law firms and businesses. It's also used by shitlibs.
It's the capitalist adoption of relationships.
>>2781136you overthink it imo. words have multiple definitions. capitalism is based on exploitation, not what words people use to describe their relationships. i call my wife my wife but i couldn't give a shit less if two nonbinary people or whatever call each other partner because bf/gf doesn't make any sense for them. it's a stupid thing to give a shit about.
>>2781273>for one precious jewKek. There's no greater proof that Christian zionism and antisemitism are two sides of the same coin than the unhinged way zionist organizations advertise themselves. The former states the Jew is a precious and holy animal who wields powers of moneymaking and requires special accommodation from the rest of society for reasons of religious significance, the latter states the same thing, except with the inverse moral judgement.
>tucker presidency
shill detected
>>2781305>A tucker presidency is best-case scenario, as far ending AIDS to Israhell goeslol you guys are desperate for more fell for it again awards
Tucker spammer is back? lol
>tuckerfaggot can't even link properly
Geeeeg
>>2781129
Brian Herbert, a fool, reduced the Butlerian Jihad to just “Durrrr what if people fought evil robots?!?!”
Frank Herbert’s spirit still inhabits the world, however, and we’ll see the Butlerian Jihad led by Shia-Catholicism.
>>2781327
Pretty much.
>>2781333
The Democratic Party must certainly loathe this entire scenario then, especially when they’re not particularly liked themselves
>>2781337>>2781333I think Republicans clearly want to govern. Shit Project 2025 essentially laid out their policy goals/ambitions.
Dems—beyond their increasingly frustrated and Left wing base—pretty much don’t.
>>2781339>Anything or anyone that could rally and rile up their base is shut outWhich has turned the Democratic Party’s issues from mostly internal into both external and internal issues. They shut out the base, but the base doesn’t disappear into a vacuum.
>>2781341They do, or at least they did. They had big plans for everything. But they fucked up a little too much now, so the rats are reconsidering everything while the ship sinks.
>>2781349Though, I wouldn’t say they’re doomed to sink just yet. They still have a few cards they can play to avoid sinkage. They still have ICE, they can always try to rig the midterms, they still have investors, they still have the military, still have enough of their cult base to use, and the situation in Iran hasn’t fully resolved yet. But they’ll have to use these cards competently enough to avoid their destruction, and I don’t think they’ll be able to pull that off.
>>2781360Define “destruction”, cause I still remember thinking the republicans were permanently fucked after the disaster of Bush 2
>>2781305cucker wore a bowtie and repeated state dept lies about muslim countries for two decades now. he acts like he woke up. it's a ruse they're setting up. also learn to post links without metadata.
>>2781392Something worse than the disaster of bush 2. Scorched earth on their entire reputation. Potential total absorption into the democratic party and/or complete support collapse. Associating with them becomes political suicide, and anyone caught is vilified. A total wipeout from all positions of power unless they somehow successfully grift. Practically illegal to be a republican. Talking potentially even shot on sight levels of unpopular. Nuremberg Trials for every red hat. A vacuum so empty even libertarians would have a chance.
>>2781392>Define “destruction”,maga being replaced by groypers like they replaced the bush neocons
>>2781411Groypers are too synonymous to flee the fire. They either change their image or they go down as well.
Trump is an antichrist most definitely.
>>2781416unfortunately adaptability is a sign of strength, i do not fear those unwilling or unable to change in a world rapidly evolving around them
>>2781418
there could be another switch like the southern strategy
>>2781418
>Republicans still have a stranglehold on every rural area in America politically and the small businesses, agribusiness
Which are currently going bankrupt
>extractive industries will never ever change their allegiance to the Dems who represent the banks and Silicon valley
They may not have a choice in the end.
>>2781433
That’s correct. They’re fucked.
>>2781439
>The democrats don’t even want to save or pander to their own urban base, that’s how fucked they are
That is also correct. They can’t handle being the uniparty.
>But there’s nothing that will replace them because both parties agreed to ossify themselves and make themselves a duopoly to defeat the original Populists.
But if that duopoly is shattered in any way, they’ll have a hard time adapting and picking up the pieces.
>>2781448The communist movement of course
>>2781433
We may actually see most of the rural parts of the country take the shape of some 70s exploitation film with killer cannibals and insane local cults if things deteriorate in rural areas more.
>>2781465
lol, I saw Clown in a Cornfield a while ago. Glad to see the dude who played the exterminator in The Strain still getting work. Was pretty dumb though.
I could 100% see some boomer cult convinced that if they just drink the blood of those entitled millennials they’ll revert back to their 20s again.
>>2781470>I could 100% see some boomer cult convinced that if they just drink the blood of those entitled millennials they’ll revert back to their 20s again.That's dumb. It's actually zoomer blood or younger that'll make that work.
>>2781475They don’t know the difference
The Democrats are captured by the incompetent nepobaby analyst/PMC class.
The "they want to lose on purpose" bit never made sense to me because you can profit way more from having power, just look at how much money Trump has made, and how many congress members are getting rich off of insider trading. The Democratic Party is genuinely run by dumb people. Chuck Schumer is a dumb person. I think people resist this idea because they want to believe that the world makes sense. The idea that the world is tightly controlled by competent evil people is more comforting than the world being run by incompetent evil people.
>>2781479look at me saying "PMC class" while calling other people dumb
if you'll need me I'll be at the ATM machine
>>2781418
Tariff and oil might change their minds there
>>2781482
Obviously they meddle in primaries to undermine the progressive wing, but they also genuinely drink the koolaid that their way of doing things works. It's nepobabies leeching off of the elderly by promoting bad ideas. That's why they don't have power. It's not simply that they are losing on purpose.
We've already seen what they do when they do have power - they engage in half-measures and find excuses to not do anything for workers, while keeping the capitalist ship steady. That's what a Newsom/etc presidency with control over Congress would look like. That is what they want, it's not something they're trying to avoid. They are just bad at getting there.
>>2781491newsome, and anyone younger than 70, can't win.
bernie is unironically the dems only change in 2028.
>>2781448Oh, ya. Every 4 years lady can help us
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>>2781509>>2781305>A tucker presidency is best-case scenarioimagine the big
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