OPEN THE FUCKIN STRAIT
>>2781462Wouldn't be surprising if they are doing everything to spite the orange king
>>2781478>Traders are such cattle, man.yeah man it's flock/herd behavior. any collective group is going to feed off each other's panic even if many or even most of the individuals in that group don't "believe" the panic. because they're all thinking "man i better sell before all the other cattle panic sell. i'm not cattle like the other cattle. i'm a real human, but i don't want to hold on for too long or i'll lose out to the panic sellers."
so even the meta-game reveals that panicking is the optimal strategy. it's less about being more human/less cattle and more about getting out of an asset before the panic sets in. because panic is panic even when it's meta-panic
>>2781462>>2781464It’d make the perfect plot for a stupid 80s comedy.
>Meet Admiral Chad>Chad’s been having a rough time<“So the dumbass wanted us to open the strait for weeks, now he’s telling us to close it?”>”American Pie” starts playing<“Hold on, what’s the point of closing the strait if he’ll tell us to open it again in a week?”>This summer<“I declare this operation: IRANIAN VACAAAAAY!”>The strait will be closed<“Admiral, did you just hire hookers from Dubai?”>But the beach…<Random scenes of IRGC and USN guys having a volleyball match >Is open!National Lampoon’s Hormuz Holiday did it actually happen? did the Great Satan actually take a palpable L here and get nothing to show for it? it's too good to be true.
How long until Taiwan is out of oil?
>>2781489every source says taiwan has about 3 months of strategic reserves. it would be very nice to have a global countdown map with each country labeled without how much reserves it has left
Burger military should just coup Trump and Hegseth already.
>>2781494taco tuesday ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
>>2781477>OPEN THE FUCKING STRAIT!>I'M CLOSING THE STRAIT!Can we get Business Plot 2 please? Surely the capitalists are tired of this senile retard.
>>2781462Why is he so focused on market manipulation
It's pathetic that Iran agreed to a ceasefire and engage in talks that obviously aren't going anywhere while IDF is still massacring people in Lebanon
>>2781504his followers are the ones who would be coupin'
>>2781508you're retarded, there is no ceasefire. it's all Western propaganda
>>2781513How many missiles has Iran fired at Israel and GCC the last few days?
>>2781504if you think about it he's a genius
kek>iran won't open the strait>so i'll stop my own blockade that way i can say i'm winning because nothing is getting through and that's what i wanted all along >>2781512You'd think Thiel/etc would be happy with Vance, especially if it's actually true that Vance is against the war in private.
Have been out of the loop for a couple of days. Have any new news come out about the pilot rescue
>>2781487I would pay PunishedJesus to make this a reality.
>>2781530
like i said. he's a genius of world historical proportions.
>>2781505>Why is he so focused on market manipulationbecause 10 billionaires attended his inauguration, he did a crypto rugpull on his own followers, and his entire domestic presidency, geopolitics aside, is a scam meant to look the public at the expense of the private
>>2781539>meant to look the publicloot*
Are we winning yet?
>>2781539I think you can just say loot the public, because it's not at the expense of the private. it's still at the expense of the public
flood detected
reminder that this is the final month where a global famine can be averted
>>2781552
so trve sister
>>2781556
leftcoms legit sound exactly like /pol/fag trumptards coping that trump is winning
>>2781567
Nah I wouldn't put hope in the retarded markets, the actual economy will contract of course but they can always find ways to artificially prop up the markets.
>>2781516it's hard to tell because there's misinformation and disinformation surrounding war zones
>>2781538
>>2781542
it's ok anon. i also am sometimes. i can dish it out but i can't discern it.
>>2781567
fuck the leftcom spammer but i will never tire of pointing out that a market crash is nothing but the cannibalization of the petty bourgeoisie by the haute bourgeoisie. every single crisis in my adult memory (i.e. since 2008) has resulted in the richest of the bourgeoisie getting even richer, while the petty bourgeoisie get lumpenized (I would say proletarianized but this is the USA I'm talking about). The wealthiest bourgeoisie refuse to centrally plan production but happily semi-plan market crashes, wars, the destruction of surplus commodities, because destruction is always easier to plan than production. They simply inside trade information among themselves and short sell in advance of these semi-planned crashes, allowing them to prophet from the cannibalization. This was pointed out by Engels in less explicit terms as early as Anti-Duhring, but it's also elaborated upon in the chapter on Fictitious Capital in Capital Volume 3, and Rajani Palme Dutt of the CPGB wrote about the Destruction of the Productive Forces quite compellingly in his 1936 work "Fascism and Social Revolution" Chapter 3. This has been your Read Theory Reminder.
>>2781588> allowing them to prophet from the cannibalization.accidental poetic spelling error
>>2781591>if you're winning you don't typically threaten to destroy a civilization or look for scapegoatsfamous bleeding heart humanitarians of
checks notes The Wall Street Journal. I love how many of these absolute Holden Bloodfeast ass ghouls are pretending their hearts grew three sizes in the wake of Trump's re-election after ignoring 4 years of Genocide Joe. Hey. He told us we would be "tired of winning."
>>2781597
don't mind me btw i'm just over here LOSING MY FUCKING MIND
>>2781588>a market crash is nothing but the cannibalization of the petty bourgeoisie by the haute bourgeoisieAnd that's based
>>2781641it's just a thinly veiled way to give him gold as a bribe while kissing his ass. i wonder if we will see the same award years later on a different base
>>2781601
>probably blood libel
weegas it's written in your own damn language, you tell us what it says. I'm seething rn at how stupid this is
>>2781651They did it sloppy tho. Which means they don't care about him. Trump is an addict for praise irrespective of sincerity.
Also, I expect we might be raided soon as mods are afk.
>>2781664
think of him like the ceo of ceo's for america incorporated
xitter banned AryJeay account. It was one of the best source for following the war. Fucking US propaganda tools, where is the chinese twitter
>>2781549>global famineI'm reminded of the "Black Sea Grain Initiative" where despite there being ongoing food shortage on Africa before Russia's invasion, a common thing, western media also tried to retroactively claim world hunger was Russia's fault. From the western retell,capitalism before 2022 had nothing to do with access to food, poverty and certainly not setting up most of the continent to be extractive neocolonies which need import all their food and necessities. Apparently it was 2022 that the RF invented warfare,"imperialism" and all the associated ills.
But then the UN published a web app where you could visualize the exports data various ways. Revealing that, obviously, the grain goes where the money is to pay for it. And, in fact, most of the grain was sent to China, with Spain in a second place where majority of it was used to feed cattle. A third place was taken by Türkiye, which got an extra share for it's role as mediator.
The page of the UN which used to host the web app has been replaced,since, with a literal low res screenshot of one of the app's tabs. Like so much Looney Tunes stuff, drawing a tunnel on a mountain face. And a PDF with further captures of the app's tabs.
I suppose the problem could be with M$, where the visualization was embedded from. But honestly, how lame is it to be in that position to begin with?
>Oh sorry, the provider fell off >So I guess I'll just take some screenies and call it done(The raw data is still available in inscrutable spreadsheet form)
Anyway here is the link:
https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/dataAnd here is an archive where the app does not load , but the embed is present:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230605201819/https://www.un.org/en/black-sea-grain-initiative/data In light of the aggression on Iran, the actions of American 'leftists' show yet again that they are in fact left-imperialists. Ultimately, only two types of Americans exist: the imperialist and his collaborator.
>>2781727Welcome back chagos.
https://www.democracynow.org/2026/4/14/iran_blockadeFormer American & Iranian Negotiators on Ceasefire Talks & How War Could End
>We’re joined now in the studio by two former negotiators for the U.S. and Iran in this Democracy Now! exclusive.
>Ambassador Seyed Hossein Mousavian served as spokesperson for Iran in its nuclear negotiations with the European Union from 2003 to 2005. He also served as Iran’s ambassador to Germany. He’s author of two books, The Iranian Nuclear Crisis: A Memoir and, most recently, Iran and the United States: An Insider’s View on the Failed Past and the Road to Peace.
>And we’re joined by Rob Malley. He was one of the negotiators on the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, known as the JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. He served as a senior Middle East official under Presidents Clinton, Obama and Biden. Under Biden, he served as the special envoy for Iran. He is now a lecturer at Yale University, former president of the International Crisis Group, co-author with Hussein Agha of a new book, Tomorrow Is Yesterday: Life, Death, and the Pursuit of Peace in Israel/Palestine. >>2781767this is all very sanitized academic speak
>>2781784the book is 90 years old but you somehow manage to make it about isg
Iran is now begging for negotiations again and has already come to the table once.
Sad, but many such cases
Since Trump+Orban+Natanyahu+Putin=Epstein gang now, so China is iran only important allies here?
Tons of newslop wishcasting negotiations that aren't real, or pretending the US blockade is madd of paper so I assume we're are already in the panic zone. From this point on, if you're not on the haute bourgeois, you're a beggar.
>>2781727geopolitics only intersects with class struggle as long as there is a periphery and superprofits, and the struggle of the periphery's national bourgeoisie only intersects with the struggle of the proletariat insofar as there is a vigorous and lively national liberation struggle against the imperial core. revolutionary science shows that the ascendancy of the periphery and the fall of the core is inevitable. in this great equalization between the peripheral and core bourgeoisie, and the downfall of the imperial core petty bourgeoisie and labor aristocracy, there is a rebirth of global, yes, global, class struggle.
>>2781796the western proletariat tried the whole of late XIX and early XX century to establish a proletarian republic and got culled for it, now a good portion of the would-be working class (if they are not in the labor aristocracy working class) is the prolecattle slopping up epstein class spectacles. what a time to be alive. jamal, jusuf and jesus might actually expropriate my crackkka ass.
many people are saying that iran will accept crypto for tolls on the hormuz strait
>>2781803
You are not an antizionist though.
Americans at large are genuinely too stupid to understand what their government is doing to the world economy
>>2781803
you will always be goycattle poltard>>2781812
>Hope Israel gets nuked soon so we can finally have peace from these cunts.
not enough. we need a secret police to hunt these freaks (just like the yugoslav DB)
>>2781812They'll be easier to spot as we get closer to 2028 because they'll go back to shilling the republican party as anti-war again
>>2781812>>2781816The fuckwits don't even understand that Israeli fully condones their rhetoric.
If the war Israel is waging is hurting the Israeli proletariat, why don't they rise up? Are they stupid? Or are they okay with raping west Asia? Does third worldism extend to Israel? Or how to approach the question of inevitable dezionification? How strong can the grip of Zion be on the land of Yisrael, truly? A fifth of Israel are Arabs, are they really that culled by the sstate of pissrakkkell and doing nothing? That only works if you had a communist revolution (like China).
>>2781824
Yes. Israel condones conflation of anti-zionism with anti-semitism, while doing things that deliberately irritate people. At the same time, they constantly play the victim, and tell Jews that the goy are out to get them. It's how you reinforce ingroup versus outgroup mentality, dumbshit.
>>2781825>Does third worldism extend to Israel?Uhh?
>>2781833
Higher than yours, /pol/shit.
>>2781829It's the same as what the Jehova's witnesses do. They instruct followers to do obnoxious shit, and when people get annoyed and treat them poorly the cult leaders tell them its because of their faith.
Zionists use the same modus operandi. Thing is that it works MUCH better when some people that actually just hate jews do show up. It erases whatever doubts they could have about the legitimacy of their brainwashing.
Never forget pic related, Epstein created /pol/tards for a reason.
Ngl I'm feeling quite bummed about the current state of affairs, like Israel pummeling Hezbollah right now and Iran seemingly cucking out. Are there developments I'm not seeing that actually show that Iran still maintains an edge?
>>2781835that does not confirm that epstein created pol
>>2781829what if someone got rid of the ingroup hahaha wouldn't that be funny
>>2781837Iran engaging in "talks" with US while Israel is murdering hundreds of lebanese shia is sad but as long as the government is intact and the strait of hormuz is still effectively closed, they're doing just fine. USA "blocking the blockade" is an act of desperation.
>>2781849yes. it's suggestive. but does not confirm.
>>2781846I hope so. Hezbollah ironically hasn't adapted as well as the IDF has since 2006, I hate to fucking admit it but IDF ISR and air power has improved immensely since 2006 and they don't have to actually use their ground forces in any significant way that would cause huge ambushes. Every day that Iran leaves Hezbollah in the lurch is another day of insanely heavy airstrikes while the most pampered and cowardly soldiers in the world continue advancing. I read today that they've already captured most of Bint Jbeil and reached places they never did in 2006.
Why is Lebanon so giga cucked they dont even try to fight back at all
>>2781835If you don't know who savetheinternet is or how Sherrod DeGrippo influenced moot to create /pol/ you should, as a maoist would say, refrain from speaking on this issue. Antisemitism is not a zionist ploy, quite on the contrary, zionism is founded on antisemitism, as a prerequisite.
>>2781857they don't call them cathcucks for nothing
>>2781841>>2781842But also, you're /pol/. And the reason we despise Israel and Zionism, is because they're exactly like (you). Your struggles to join in the hatred of Israel, while absolving yourselves are permanently in vain.
Here's ADL /pol/posting.
>>2781849moot created /pol/ based on an idiotic idea of it as a "containment" board, it is far more clear headed to think of liberal conceptions of "the public sphere" and "civil society" such as this as related to fascism.
>>2781866Yes. If you categorize groups among ethnicity/religion/other idpol lines, you are literally "le same".
days without nationalist retards in the top 3 generals: 0
>>2781839>>2781849>/pol/ is literally created on the same day Epstein and m00t linked up>"no confirmation"it's as close as you're going to get without kidnapping m00t and torturing a confession from the guy.
sometimes it's okay to infer things when you have a lot of circumstantial evidence.
>>2781858>Antisemitism is not a zionist ploy, quite on the contrary, zionism is founded on antisemitism, as a prerequisite.>Supremacist ideology engages in supremacism>at the same time, it co-opts its victims ideology, pretending to be victims themselvesWhere's the contradiction?
>>2781868so class-conscious bourgeois and proletarians are the same because they both categorize groups along class lines?
>>2781880No, because your relationship to the means of production is not an identity, but material reality.
>>2781879
>infiltration
Western governments are not, and never were innocent.
>>2781881Who is more likely to say the truth
>moot in a public interview about his relationship with the most hated man in the world after the mails get released with all the pressure that this conveys>Jeffrey Epstein speaking privately with his buddies before any of this shit went down with no pressure or fear or any eyes on him whatsoeverI don't think this is difficult to answer.
>>2781890
You're arguing with the ghosts in your head nobody here likes zioshits or jewish supremacists
Now that I think about, I've never met a Zionist.
>>2781875moot was at the time, as I'm sure you're aware, gathering capital for canvas, his, since then, failed startup. His meeting with epstein was probably brief. What are the stakes of epstein's involvement for you here? Epstein is in no way special or particularly relevant, in a theoretical sense.
>>2781894reddit is filled with them, also 4chan
>>2781897True, but like I've never come face to face with one. Same with MAGA communist, never met one of them either.
>>2781882>ethnicity is just an identity bro, it's all in your head broso you're telling me if i wish really hard i can cease being subhuman goycattle and just become part of g-d's chosen people instead? man, you should tell the palestinians
>>2781900
The reason people gang up on you because its obvious that by zionists you just mean "da joos" else you'd acknowledge that the average western politician is already a non-jewish zionist and ergo nobody is driving them to do zio stuff.
Donald Trump for example is not manipulated by zionists, he IS one. Joe Biden wasn't manipulated by zionists either, he IS a zionist. Openly as well.
>>2781906The reactionary mind is incapable of understanding imperialism as a world-system, only the mythology of ethnicities and their special traits
>>2781896>His meeting with epstein was probably brief. This is pure speculation on your behalf, with no evidence to support it.
>What are the stakes of epstein's involvement for you here? If Epstein was responsible for /pol/ even in part then it explains a lot.
Creating the whole landscape of bizarre outlandish far right conspiracies to make any accusations against himself also seem equally outlandish.
It would make perfect sense for him to make scrutiny of him seem insane. And we know from the files that he was a user of 4chan, for the porn boards at least.
That said just because it would make sense doesn't mean I'm looking at it from the angle of trying to prove it is so. It just seems to stack up to fit that way, circumstantially.
>Epstein is in no way special or particularly relevant, in a theoretical sense.This is simply untrue. Epstein is hugely significant to the current political landscape.
>>2781903>so you're telling me if i wish really hard i can cease being subhuman goycattle and just become part of g-d's chosen people instead? man, you should tell the palestiniansIf you're not going to post about the war itself you should lurk more and learn basic concepts, you are like a babby unaware of his limitations and ignorance
new rule: if you think jewish nationalists are one particular interest group within the global ruling class with disproportionate influence, you are a zionist. also, if you don't think jewish nationalists control world events with kabbalistic magic, you are a zionist. thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>2781912
>Literally an ADL talking point.
ignored the rest of the post award
>>2781913>something resembling class analysisLOL
>>2781906it's a self proving tautology because these people simply want a non-zionist capitalist imperialism. they are addicted to "acknowledgement" without any nuance or argument following.
1: they want you to acknowledge "ZOG is real" without any ifs ands or buts
2: they want you to acknowledge that "pol was right and maybe hitler had a point about (((them)))
3: they want you to forgive the American working class of any collaboration or evangelical zionism because they were merely tricked by the jews
4: they want you to view the ruling class not as the global bourgeoisie but as the globalist jew
5: if you disagree with any of this you have fallen into their kafka trap, it is proof that you are ZOG, you are glowie, you are jewish, they are being censored, and you hate the real working class (the imperial core fox news watching petty bourgeois reactionary who was "tricked" into voting and fighting ZOG every time for decades)
6: no class struggle, only national struggle, anti-jew struggle. once the jew is gone capitalism will become rational and Fordist again.
Iran?
>>2781918
XD
>>2781918
You're too much of a dumbfuck to do e-psychology, so everything you just typed is wrong. Congratulations.
>>2781912
>Wow so the actual revolution is jewish supremacists manipulating western countries into genociding the entire middle-east. The actual state of the "lefty" board
No faggot, it's as Biden said - if there weren't an Israel, America would have to create one. America and other capitalist empires such as Britain had long since maintained their rule in the Middle East at the barrel of a gun, and after open colonialism became untenable and there was a threat of regional powers like Egypt (and now Iran) taking over the world's most oil rich region there was demand for a state that could keep the Levant politically fractured and act as the village rapist to help maintain US military presence and economic dominance in the MENA by periodically destabilizing the countries around it. As far as foreign relations go, the nations that aid Israel do so out of this commitment. You are a troglodyte if you think the US can't just refuse to follow through on Israel's requests or pull the leash at any given moment if their interests diverge too much.
think about it dialectically.
thesis: the strait should be open
anti-thesis: the strait should be closed
synthesis: ???
maybe that'll open your eyes kid…
>>2781932>>2781933i am upvoting these two posts
>>2781935just for my own personal edification, do you think it's at all possible to be anti-zionist without thinking jews are despicable vermin?
>>2781938sure, i used to be like that
>>2781940so then, do you think it's at all possible that many if not most of the people you are speaking to here disagree for that reason rather than because they are zionists?
>>2781943i'm not whatever poster you're trying to get at
>>2781929>You are a troglodyte if you think the US can't just refuse to follow through on Israel's requests or pull the leash at any given moment if their interests diverge too much.I think U.S can't currently but that's more a recent development. Israel does have a lot of the global porkies by the balls. Either through ideological/religious capture, blackmail, bribes or just sunk cost fallacy. I agree with everything else though, I just think there's a non-significant number of the ruling class that have the retarded idea they'll just rebrand as jews. You see it with how the ruling class in America is marrying into prominent zionist families. I.E Ivanka & kushner, hunter Biden converted. But that's immaterial to the fact imperialism is collapsing, profit rates are getting to zero, and ruling class are to ossified and inbred to continue thr facade.
>>2781944well tell me what you think if you don't mind, once again just for my benefit.
>>2781935The diasporic jew, the prime object of hatred for any nationalist, the Israeli one as much as the French, on the level of structure l. Rather it is precisely the diametrically opposed figure of the "citizen" which is where the line of antagonism is drawn.
>>2781917The funniest shit is that we know the terms in which NATO would currently support actual neonazis, in Ukraine. And the implementation of their "actually existing Nazism" by Banderites caused so much psychological damage in /pol/ that /chug/ came to be as an outlet. For wheraboos to denounce the things which they previously only dreamed about implementing with power that they will never have.
Turns out that "actually existing Nazism", after colonialism, is just becoming disposable vlasovite meat for the eastern front of NATO.
>>2781947
the underlying issue is a particular ethno-nationalist project and the disproportionate influence and genocidal power it has accumulated over the past century. this is not controversial to anyone on this board. the controversy is whether to emphasis the ethnic aspect or the nationalist aspect. those that emphasize the ethnic aspect call their opponents zionists, whereas those that emphasize the nationalist aspect call their opponents /pol/. and they keep doing it back and forth forever until heat death i guess.
>>2781938Ask some Jews who are antizionist what they think. I've come across a few on the interweb
>>2781947
>so its kinda hard
No it's not. If there's one (1) jew who's not a zionist, anti-semitism is wrong. 40% or so of American jews believe Israel is doing genocide in Gaza and support for Israel overall is at a historic low. In 2022, the majority of Americans of all religions/ethnicites still had a favorable view of Israel, but it has changed rapidly since Oct 7. It's expected that American jews, who are raised from birth to love Israel (more so than the average American), would take a little longer to change their views but it's clearly going in the right direction. If you actually think the appropriate response is to go full Hitlerite now you're retarded.
>>2781947>>2781965About 60% of US/UK Jews think Israel has commited war crimes and should stop attacking neighbouring states.
Like the above anon said, about 40% of US/UK Jews think Israel is a genocidal state.
About 15% of US/UK Jews are avowedly anti-Zionist and against the existence of a Jewish ethno-state in Palestine.
That rises to 25% for US/UK Jews 18-30.
Meanwhile in Israel, 4%-8% of Jews depending on source are anti-Zionist and anti-genocide.
And in contrast some approximately 80%-90% of Israeli Jews are Zionist / pro-war / pro-genocide.
In any case that's still millions of Jews who are anti-genocide, which is why it's stupid to be anti-Semitic, and why it's in fact anti-Semitic to claim anti-Zionism is anti-Jewish.
If it weren't for the Nazis, anti-Zionist / Bundist Jews would be a much louder voice today.
>>2781957>Turns out that "actually existing Nazism", after colonialism, is just becoming disposable vlasovite meat for the eastern front of NATO.They're not even even going into the meat grinder for Germany anymore lol seems the nazi yearns to die in eastern Europe in an unwinnable war
>>2781957/chug/ is largely a spiritual successor to the Syria general, which was always distinct from the board mainstream and had a lot of left-nationalists, vulgar anti-imperialists and other people barely not getting it. The nazi core of /pol/ is largely pro-ukraine and thinks that being disposable meat for the West against asiatic hordes is based.
>>2781976
>90% of jews in the US are essentially liberal zionists
Sure. So are most US non-jews, even the mass of vaguely pro-Palestine ones.
>They need to shutdown institutions materially supporting Israel
Applies to every American. There's no American anti-war movement in response to the Iran war. 99% of "anti-zionist americans" haven't done anything about anything (including the brave people who post awesome shit like "k*ke slave" and "goy slop" on X). Please be consistent.
>>2781983
>anti-semitism
<kek
I'm responding to a post that says it's "kinda hard" to not think "jews are despicable vermin". Now, do you think the belief that "jews (without any other qualifiers) are despicable vermin" could accurately be described as anti-semitism or not?
inb4
>uuuhh why are we talking about this anti-semitism is not real it doesn't exist
I wasn't the one who brought it up
>>2781990
>>2781992
Groypers have shot up synagogues (when they want a break from shooting schools)
>>2781990
Sure, I think jews who exist within communities where support for Israel, material and ideological, is high have an even greater responsibility to fight against it. What I don't get is how westoids (who pay taxes to pro-Israel governments and elect pro-Israel politicians) saying "jews are despicable vermin" is helping the situation.
>>2781875no. it's never safe to do that. it's safe to imply in your own propaganda. and it's safe for you to take a cautious approach to the site given the strong possibility that that might be the case. but proceeding forth loudly proclaiming that it is a FACT that epstein directly commanded the establishing of /pol/ is an unnecessary risk. if it turns out to be false it'll be an unforced mistake that might disillusion people towards you and hurt your credibility and that of others by extension. it takes no effort to make measured statements, so just do it.
>>2781946>ruling class abandoning Christ to become Jewishwhy? so they can move to israel after the US collapse? But then Israel will run out of money and weapons.
>>2782006either way he was instrumental in /pol/ just as Ghislaine was to reddit. Two sides of the same culture war, puppeteered by the same source–Just like Senator Palpatine and Darth Sidious in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace.
>>2781719why is this formatted as two super long pages kek
Holy shit, nothing happened today
>>2781803
>ban evading poltard crying
go cry that tucker "outflank" us somewhere else (lmao as if he was calling for the destruction of the zionist state)
>>2782022Between today and tomorrow the oil from ME will run out, and refineries will start to cut back production, you'll also be competing with SEA and Europe for oil, so expect prices to skyrocket between this week and the next week. Is this habbening enough for you?
There are currently no planes heading to MENA, and earlier today there were eleven C-17s, one C-130, one KC-135 and one A-330.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae7814>>2781976
The fucking gays get more flack about Zionism than the Jews.
>>2781807
don't they know their sidelocks look like pigtails
>>2781976
kill every jew and the vast majority of zionists will still be alive. there are only 16-18 million jews on this planet and if 100% are zionists there are still HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of christian and atheist zionists in North America, Europe, Australia
>>2781727>In light of the aggression on Iran, the actions of American 'leftists' show yet again that they are in fact left-imperialists. Ultimately, only two types of Americans exist: the imperialist and his collaborator.wrong. you are shityank zionist epstein apologist. you go too easy on shityank zionist epsteinite nation. iran will execute you for zionist counter revolutionary sympathies.
Reminder:
Americans are 100% zionist, especially the ones who lie and say they aren't. The are literally sub-animal until they prove otherwise. They spend decades, couping, bombing, sanctioning, embargoing, torturing, kidnapping, raping, murdering, stealing, poisoning, everyone everywhere and expect sympathy for their """"Class"""" struggle to get a 401k off the backs of third worlders who feed them. They are parasites. Subhuman isn't demeaning enough. A dog is subhuman but I like a dog. I pet a dog. A dog is loyal. An American is sub-animal. Sub-microbe. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. Fuck americans. I hate americans so much it's fucking Unreal. All 340 million of them are bourgeois, petty bourgeois, lumpen. If a single one is proletarian, he is a class traitor. Death to the shityanks and all the land they occupy. That includes their 51st state Israel.
I hate especially how shityanks get sensitive and offended and make everything about them and try to pretend they're one of the good ones instead of just doubling down when confronted. Commit to the bit shityank. Don't try to redeem yourself now. This isn't a fucking Christmas carol. You're not scrooge. You don't get to become the good guy in the third act. It's fucking over. Just admit what you are and suffer the consequences. And no don't hide behind your kids who you were going to indoctrinate to be bloodthirsty monsters just like you.
hormussy status?
>>2781545yeah that was a typo
>>2782044the first image is bait
>>2781880>so class-conscious bourgeois and proletarians are the same because they both categorize groups along class lines?Yes, thats why every ruling class since antiquity has no problem crossing racial, cultural, sexual, religious, or national lines if it reinforces their power. Thats how Western Europe ended up having a bunch of inbred monarchies related to each other despite supposedly being separate nations. All the people that owned the stuff had no problem abandoning whatever national or cultural mythos they used to justify their power and owner ship of all the stuff.
>>2782098They also praise it as pragmatism and "realpolitik". When proletarians do this, though, they get labelled foreign assets and dirty commies and unpatriotic and what else
>>2782011>why? so they can move to israel after the US collapse? But then Israel will run out of money and weapons.It's just my own IMO but I think that some of the ruling classes had this idea that they could rule the Americas from Israel. Turn the U.S into a giant extractive colony to fuel the imperialist petro fascist empire they've always wanted. Except that the jews will be the master race and you can't disagree because that's anti-Semitic.
Thats what cop cities were about, the gutting of all state institutions except for the military and the police. All the laws preventing criticism of Israel or banning BDS, all ways to try and create a "justifiable" racialized ruling class. Obviously were witnessing the plan go sideways and Tucker Carlson coming out saying we need to cut out israel and negotiate with Russia and China is some of the deep state prepping for a post Israel exit plan. Trying to get the chuds and boomers mentality prepared for a post American empire. Even though Tuckers idea is basically be modern day Russia, a hated cold war relic the world has to deal with but is still militarily relevant and has enough natural resources to be economically relevant no matter what. Which is a better vision of whatever the fuck we have now but I want to see a re-alignment with China IMO and and normalization with Iran. I think the left should purpose that the only solution is once power is wrested we need a joint mission to dismantle iran, either with a Iran/china cooperation or has some kind of bilateral U.N mission.
>>2782104bro is not cooking
New deadline just dropped
>BREAKING: Trump live from the Oval Office sets a new 2-week deadline for Iran to make a deal, warning the situation "won't be pleasant" if Iran does not agree by April 27.
It will be over for Iran in two weeks
>>2782070the whole board is bait. every post is bait
How will Iran survive? Don't they get most of their govt. revenue from selling oil? The West already tanked their economy.
>>2781904
It really isn't.
>>2782132The sanctions and frozen assets already crippled their economy but they managed to do business with China and Russia. Now that they control the straight the toll will go towards reconstruction and recovery. Meanwhile, while USrael (not the west) is plunging the world into a global depression and regional famines since they couldn't leave well enough alone. There's no recovering the petrodollar and bond market the way it was no matter how many Americans get shoved into the meat grinder for Israel, but Iran will still be Iran, only with better standing in a newly forming world order.
>>2781881>Your honor, as the accused party I deny any involvement.>Also, I wont impeach the process or the evidence to back up my assertion>So you will just have to decide if you believe me, the accused, or your lying eyes resting upon the evidence.Okay, case closed I suppose
>>2782108>american press is running two different stories at the same timeThis is actually an advantage of the culture war. With the truthiness of a narrative far less valuable than its utility in the cultural battlefield, you can have all sorts of contradictions batting for your side. Some people are fooled by trusting the vibes,sure. But most will be cynically deploying the version they think favors them more in a given argument with no regard for the truthiness of either. Informed by the upper echelons of the party, the media or their own social circles or w/e
are the /pol/tards seething because they're owned by Epstein again
>>2781912
>Wow… It's almost like the billions of dollars of zionist lobbying get these countries to act against their best interest or something.
do you seriously think without israel, america would just stop murdering and bombing people? killing children IS in americas best interest. you people are so fucking stupid, you actually think america is at heart a good country being decieved by jews with magical powers. did the jews force americans to commit genocide when colonizing the americas?
>>2782152I think this war isnt in the usas best interest
>>2782153A war going poorly doesn't mean you can just say it was never waged for self-interest initially.
National security policymakers have been dreaming of bombing Iran far before the recent news about Netanyahu convincing Trump that Mossad superagents would organize an overthrow of the government in two weeks.
With your logic Germany was actually pushed by some foreign power when it pursued Pax Germanica during WWII just because it happened to not be in Germany's best interest by the end of it.
>>2782152> did the jews force americans to commit genocide when colonizing the americas?well you see according to mormon scripture the native americans were a lost tribe of jews and according to anglo-american history the native americans attacked first in the anglo-powhatan wars of the 1600s, therefore….
this is what burgers actually believe >>2781767
>craft an interim package of sequenced steps, including an end to or caps on enrichment and stockpiles; full accounting of centrifuge deployment; and new limitations on Iran’s missile capabilities—all subject to real-time monitoring that could be sequenced with limited, reversible sanctions relief strictly conditioned on verified steps.
This is just the JCPOA
>>2782152Every country in the Western hemisphere is a former colony.
Stop it with this reverse American exceptionalism bullshit. It is not exceptionally good, but it is not exceptionally evil either.
>>2782162This, the US intervenes with Israel because its conductive to its envisions for the Middle East, not because of some mystic settler kinship.
>>2782013>Just like Senator Palpatine and Darth Sidious in Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom MenaceDid you really just
>>2782162america is exceptionally evil in the current century
>>2782162it's exceptionally powerful, exceptionally stupid, and everyone exceptionally suffers because of it. until that isn't the case, it will be exceptionally demonized.
>>27814474chuds is down expect an influx of chuds (zionists and wignats alike) here
>>2782166piggers in /pol/ made a thread with this video in the OP and then the thread got insta deleted by mods. You never know why shit ever gets deleted in 4chan but it was odd.
>>2782112What compels him to do this
>>2782162holy shit there are people who actually think thats what exceptionalism means
Currently two C-17s and one C-130 are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were three C-17s and one C-40A.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae03d4,ae07ec,ae2fa3,ae10ba,ae07dd,ae1251,ae1199British MQ-9 flew close to the Lebanese coast.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=43c972>>2782218this reminds me during the gaza genocide british were flying spy planes over gaza nearly every day. looks like they are doing the same
>>2782226>took the oilThat's thr fun part, they actually did not.
>>2782226>winning a war is when you have a higher KD ratiolife isnt COD
>>2782238this marks the fourth or fifth time it's been over
>>2782238fake
look
>>2782218 they're still bringing in supplies
>>2782247Doomerism is cancer
>>2782260yeah. lets be optimistic about the upcoming inflation of food prices
>>2782267I think they just sold out Iran if trump is honest
>>2782264Trump cucking to the Chinese. Considering that you know that he isn't seizing Chinese tankers because he is a pussy.
>>2782272There is nothing to sell out when Chynah has always only cared about its own line going up, be it short-term or long-term. Line only has to go up.
>>2782272>>2782277Worst possible fucking ending other than a ww3 nuclear showdown.
>>2782264>President Xi will give me a big, fat, hug, when I go there in a few weeks.He was already supposed to go to Beijing meet Xi last month LMAO. He started an international shitstorm and got a convenient excuse to not do that. He is scared as fuck because his whole admin are terrible tacticians incapable of long-term thinking compared to the wise Chinese
merchants. >>2782273No, if chinese stopped giving weapons to Iran is China cucking out. For fuck sake let's not make the Dengist beetles meme real.
I don't belive this happened but let's not act like is some 100d chess from China.
>>2782287the senile fuck will not go to china in his remaining timeline.
>>2782284NEH won
Bourgeoisie won
Campsisters lost
>>2782243what kind of burger bullshit is this? its like noon pop idol bullshit but for semi grown up men
>>2782290He was supposed to do it for real before joining the Israeli strikes on Iran, and my pet conspiracy theory is that he did it in part to avoid getting humiliated by Chinese leadership:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/3344769/trump-xi-summit-preparations-falter-planning-gaps-unsettle-beijingIt's even more ironic when you factor in that the South Korean president met Xi in January or so and everything went fine.
>>2782293i agree, which is why i made my statement. china made pretty clear what their position is and showed trump and his sycophants, back when the orange buffoon anounced his tariffs from hell, how shit will go down if they actually start fucking with them. i'm pretty sure through some backchannels they also explained to trump, or one of his sycophants rather, in no uncertain terms, what will happen when the US military starts seizing, let alone attacking, chinese vessels.
all that remains for the flailing failing and disintegrating empire is bluster and ever more laughable threats (or actually nuking this planet apart).
as for trump: the literal failson that never amounted to anything but being a spoiled moron, bailed out qua his birthname by other people over and over and over again, reached the end of the road. he is the, nominally, most powerful person on the planet, utterly and completely out of his depths and there is no one who he can blame but himself (of course he will blame every single person on this planet but what gives) and basically no one who can bail him out this time around.
there is a good chance he will go down as the last 'real' president of the united states, the most pathetic and ineffective one of them all, the one who oversaw the disintegration and demise of the empire.
>>2782301I wouldn't put it in such strong terms, but I don't disagree m8, I don't disagree…
>>2782132Some people just have no concept of tanker travel time. iran already has oil traveling around and thus they will not see an impact from the blockade until at least next month, do you think the US economy will last that long now that it has officially received the last tanker pre-closure? Yes the last tanker out of Hormuz took two entire months to reach the US, that's how long these things take. The US literally has no time to do seige tactics because they themselves are on a timer.
>>2782231Bro just build a 55bn pipeline that is literally within range of Iranian missiles, why are you looking at me like I'm stupid bro?
>>2782238Imagine Trump tries to double down on “the war is over” rhetoric and declares a national holiday, “Victory in Iran day”
>”Remember V.E. Day? Remember the photos? The sailor kissing the nurse? Oh we’re gonna have such good photos. Photos like you’ve never seen.”>”We should be celebrating! Why aren’t you celebrating! Cmon, you’ve got my permission, if you’re at work right now just clock out and start dancing in the street! We won!” >>2782289I believe you misread what I said. I said Trump was the one doing the cucking too China and not China cucking to Trump. Reason I said that was because Trump is too much of a fussy to actually seize Chinese vessels going through the American Blockade.
>>2782264KAUTSKY VINDICATED. Welcome to super imperialism madafakas. Now the entire world capitalist class is collaborating to fuck you over.
>>2782289>if chinese stopped giving weapons to Iran is China cucking outhave they now? you silly.
>A senior Iranian political and security source to Al-Mayadeen: With the follow-up and pressure from Iran, a ceasefire will be declared in Lebanon starting from tonight. The duration of the ceasefire will extend until the end of the ceasefire period between Iran and the United States. It's possible that Netanyahu, as a destructive element, will move again to sabotage this agreement.
i know it's not going to last but Israel is getting fucking cockblocked so hard LMAO
>>2782272>if trump is honestanti china people really are the dumbest fuckers alive
Leftcoms be like
>Trump always says the truth
>America always wins
>All enemies of America are evil and its good if they're destroyed
>BE A DOOMER NIHILIST RIGHT NOWWW MOTHAFAKAAAAA
They're basically neocons.
>Tesla gets bad sales
>Tesla promises a trillion to Musk if he can deliver
>Musk pushes Trump for the Iran clownfest
>Iran closes hormuz
>Hormuz pushes oil up
>Oil prices push people to buy Teslas
>Musk becomes trilionaire
There you have it. But I guess you slowpokes need 50 years for the official documents to be publicized
>>2782352i wonder if the trots who became neocons in the 80s like this in the 70s?
>>2782342kautsky won in 1991
>>2782342the global food supply requires oil (for fertilizer manufacture, for tractors, for shipping) so of course china wants the strait open
>>2782355Tesla has shit sales because the EV subsidy ended, theres more competition in the EV market, and the cyber truck is notoriously shit. The only reason people get teslas nowadays is because of the self driving features and other bells and whistles, not to lower their gas bill.
>>2782368take it to isg my man
>>2782370nah, too much of war in subject for the toilet drain
>>2782372Lots of people's families are dying. Some random literallywho vtuber sniffling isn't special
>>2782374>Lots of people's families are dying.Sad.
post all there names
rip
>>2782368I'm sure the family didn't deserve this.
Having said that, you are a pedophile and will get no sympathy here.
>>2782377nta but whats with randomly accusing people of being pedos, strikes me as bizarre behaviour imagine I randomly accuse you of being the zodiac killer or some shit just because I dont like your post
>>2782047>>2782368man, this vtuber shit really degrades the emotional weight of real events, it's also an atrocious time waste
>>2782370eh, it's more relevant than 80% of the thread since it looks like this right now
I think Bernstein was right bros.
>>2782386I think we should be cautious before taking Trump at his word during this conflict.
>trump said CHINA SURRENDERED
<kek defend this dengoids!!
maybe the chosen people aren't all that wrong about the cattle
>>2782385>vtuber>atrocious time wastevtubing is an import from japan's modern tradition of making things a kindergarten or daycare for adults
>degradespartially disagree, streaming and vtubing with all of the chat saying "WE LOVE CAMIMI" turns the weight of real events into something bizarre to look at with that whiplash added.
>>2782386i too think West Side Story was right.
>>2782396>defending dangistsad.
>>2782367i think it's kinda nuts how little people are talking about the infrastructure destruction
that's going to take a year even with rushed repairs to fix and it'll mean pretty dramatic economy-wide losses till its fixed
>>2782406>defending trampsad.
>>2782422>trampJ.D coupon was always not moewist but dangist
>>2782414My main hope is that it will disrupt deals recently made in the billions for Jolanis Syria. The region is circling what little is left.
>>2782367thanks to oil prices and Irans permanent control of hormuz they won't get rebuilt. they were even trying to diversity their economy before this fiasco, instead the gulf will be forced to invest in renewable energy
>no new lego videos
it's over isn't it
Inside the Radical Zionist Group Linked to an N.Y.C. Assassination Plot
The Jewish Defense League had long been largely inactive. But an arrest in a plan to kill a Palestinian activist shed light on an apparent resurgence of far-right Zionism, inspired by the J.D.L.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/14/nyregion/jewish-defense-league-murder-plot.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Defense_Leaguehttps://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/jewish-defense-league/More people need to learn about this group. Hopefully some type of viral post brings people to learn about it eventually
>>2782474>The attack was averted because the man, Alexander Heifler, 26, discussed his plans to kill the activist, Nerdeen Kiswani, 31, with an undercover detective who had infiltrated the new group, the J.D.L. 613 Brotherhood, the authorities said.proof that SR combat org type adventurisms are a waste of time
>>2782477Read the Wikipedia. They did countless terrorist attacks for decades across Western countries
>>2782478if you actually read the article the group in question was founded in 2024 and is distinct from the JDL of the 90's
>Both the Chicago group, which considers itself a much reduced continuation of the original J.D.L., and New Jersey one describe themselves as the true successor to Rabbi Kahane. >>2782166Over 90% of global russian saboteurs are mouth foaming zionists and everyone shot at bondi beach except the little girl deserved that and more
>>2782484Zionism is terrorism and should be treated as such.
The NYPD should begin extensive monitoring of synagogues in NY and bring to heel any Rabbis who spread Zionist propaganda.
>>2782484Literally the zionist equivalent of ultras kek
>>2782484>>2782487https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KahanismKahanism is a religious Zionist[17] ideology that denotes the controversial positions espoused by Rabbi Meir Kahane. Kahane proposed that the State of Israel should enforce Jewish law (Halakha), as codified by Maimonides,[citation needed] under which non-Jews who wish to dwell in Israel would have three options: remain as "resident strangers" with all rights but national ones, which would require non-Jews to accept resident-stranger status with all rights but political ones. Those unwilling to accept such a status will be required to leave the country with full compensation, and those who refuse to do even that will be forcibly removed.[18]
Kahanism's central claim is that the vast majority of the Arabs of Israel are and will continue to be enemies of Jews and Israel itself, and that a Jewish theocratic state, governed by Halakha law, absent of a voting non-Jewish population that includes Israel, Palestine, areas of modern-day Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq, should be created.[19]
>>2782490>Menachem Mendel Schneerson supported Kahane on many issues concerning Israel, including the issue of Arabs, relinquishing land, building settlements and the incorporation of Jewish law into Israeli policy. After hearing of Kahane's death, Schneerson remarked that "one of the greatest Jewish leaders in history has fallen." He later blessed Kahane's son to be successful in fulfilling his "holy father's" work.[81]Menachem Mendel Schneerson[a] (April 18, 1902 – June 12, 1994), known to adherents of the Chabad-Lubavitch movement as the Lubavitcher Rebbe or simply the Rebbe,[1][2] was an Orthodox rabbi and the Rebbe of the Lubavitch Hasidic dynasty. He is considered one of the most influential Jewish leaders of the 20th century.[3][4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson >>2782368if anything this just exposes vtuber fans as inhuman tbh. Anyways rip to all dead by zionist terror bombing
>>2782474pretty sure that BETAR is associated with them or pretty much the same thing in terms of ideology. they share offices in Israel with the Likud party.
Donald Trump lashed out at one of his closest allies on Tuesday, saying Italy’s Giorgia Meloni lacked courage in light of her failure to join the US in attacking Iran.
“I’m shocked at her. I thought she had courage, but I was wrong,” the US president said in an interview with the Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.
The attack came as Meloni said that her far-right government would suspend the automatic renewal of its defence cooperation agreement with Israel “in light of the current situation”.
“Giorgia Meloni doesn’t want to help us in the war. I’m shocked,” Trump said. “Do people like the fact that your president isn’t doing anything to get the oil [in Iran]? Does she like it? I can’t imagine.”
>>2782510Trump said he did not think the Chicago-born pontiff was “doing a very good job”, while also suggesting he should “stop catering to the radical left”.
Meloni criticised remarks by Trump targeting the pope, calling them “unacceptable”. She added that she would not feel comfortable in a society where religious leaders were expected to follow the direction of political leaders.
“She is the one who is unacceptable,” Trump replied, “because she doesn’t care if Iran has a nuclear weapon and would blow up Italy in two minutes if it had the chance.”
>>2782470So much for their air force being gone
Currently four C-17s are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were seven C-17s, two KC-135s, one 767 and two A-400s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae123c,ae07d9,ae1465,ae080c,3ea541,ae1235,33fe77,ae123d,ae07ea,ae05aa,3f43e6,896c2e,43c174,ae0594,ae0812,ae07d9Asim Munir's plane.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=766021>>2782532As of lately I'm starting to wonder if these abrahamicuck prophecies are actually real because some shit going on is too on the nose.
>>2782537fatimas third secret will be fulfilled soon just watch
>>2782537I mean it almost seems too on the nose, Trump hits a
lot of supposed antichrist prophecies.
>>2782550
So? They do so because Tucker is using the genocide for his own interests. He understands that Israel will drag down the USA with it. Hes a realist, a cynic. And you are a massive troglodyte for posting this stupid idpol shit as if though it meant anything worthwhile. Massive, massive liberal retard kys
another day of checking this general and finding out 90% of shit being posted is this amerimutt animal shilling his right wing garbage
>>2782537we got a come back of literal biblical bug swarms before the retvrn of the labor movement geg marxsisters im not feeling so good
>>2782562
NTA but the obvious problem is that Tucker is a shill as much as all the others. He will flip on a dime and promote Republicans and the American imperialist core when the time comes. Is he bringing on hard leftists onto his show and giving them a platform? Yes. Is he showcasing how heinous Israel's genocide is? Of course. But there will come a point when that stops, when it no longer can be used to push his own agenda.
>>2782562
I'd rather have him attacking Israel instead of being a bloodthirsty US-Israel war monger and demonizing muslims (which he did for most of his career until a year or so ago). That's good and a sign that attitudes are changing. I still think you're a moron if you think any part of it is sincere. He has rebranded several times before and he will rebrand again.
>b-but a handful of muslims I follow on X feed retweet Tucker! Who are you to disagree with their wisdom?
Don't care about your standpoint epistemology bs. Good for them I guess.
Stop bringing up Tucker every thread now please.
>>2782582
You already posted that, no one cares
>>2782562
>>2782550
tucker was plenty happy to describe muslims as violent a few years ago
>>2782589
I thought rightoids loved Sharia if it is based on Christian sharia. After all sharia is just the arabic word for law anyways.
>>2782589
tucker is temporarily helpful and useful but so are plenty of people. Don't see why I should particularly care about him. Good, I guess?
>>2782599>tucker is temporarily helpful and useful but so are plenty of people. Don't see why I should particularly care about him. Good, I guess?just like donald was temporarily useful when he pretended to be a dove? may everyone drown in fellforitagain awards
>>2782537>>2782532>bees outta control cuz climate change<DUZZ DISS MEAN DA WHOLLY BABBLE TRVKE NVKE????????????i hate you fuckers so much
>>2782549>I mean it almost seems too on the nose, Trump hits a lot of supposed antichrist prophecies.because it's literally designed to describe your average psychopathic rapist pedophile murderer ruling class person from any fucking era of human history
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH where's the materialism
>>2782574>geg marxsisters im not feeling so goodshartyfags are you capable of saying anything that isn't a catchphrase. have you ever read a fucking book IRL
>>2782602i think donald's more useful now burning hatred of the US into every heart on the planet than when he was faking being a dove lmao
>>2782604
so what?
what are we supposed to do with this information?
>>2782608sure if your end goal is nuclear war instead of class struggle
>>2782604
What is your goal with posting about Tucker in every single thread? Most here agree that it's good that he's suddenly pro-Palestine but don't trust that he won't rebrand again in 6 months (he was the biggest Trump booster for years, after all). Is that good enough? Like what are you trying to accomplish
>>2782604
At this point I'm starting to think you are tucker and somehow stumbled upon leftpol and are now desperate for our approval. If tucker gives us a positive shout out ill change my mind about you.
>>2782613it's just an LLM designed to shill tucker and respond with accusations of zionism when told to fuck off
>>2782610i find nuclear war catastrophizing irrelevant and the breakdown of the current system a necessity to driving class struggle.
just imagine anons one day drumpf will be on the verge of starting a war in the middle east and tucker being the independent maverick that he is will go the white house and tell drumpf not to do it because he is so popular with the base and drumpf will be forced to listen! THAT has to happen! drumpf would NEVER dare to angry millions of tucker fans.
tucker is the future of the republican party and drumpf would NEVER dare to excommunicate him or anything like it!
come the next elections TUCKER and not drumpf will decide the next nominee and all the stupid republican cattle will folow tucker and not drumpf.
america will have its FIRST ever america first president and israel will be abolished, bombs will rain on tel avin and israelis will be marched into the sea AHAHHAAH
>>2782608>burning hatred of the US into every heart on the planetthe 200 years of monroe doctrine and 70 years of CIA coups didn't already do that?
>>2782615>the breakdown of the current system happening with or without the orange pedophile because capital produces its own gravediggers
>>2782614Yeah prolly, just weird how desperate it is for us to like tucker. Like is it a glowie bot, an new type of ad service being deployed? Or just some lone tucker fan that's just unleashing these things where ever? Hate this shit
>>2782621i think he's gonna run in 2028 as the anti-war-for-real-this-time-trust-me-guys-don't-listen-to-anything-i-said-between-2001-and-2016 candidate
>>2782607I mean the whole “he’ll survive a wound to the head that people will call miraculous” thing is pretty specific.
>>2782607Take it easy dude it's just fun
>>2782619>the 200 years of monroe doctrine and 70 years of CIA coups didn't already do that?Not really as much as most would think no. To people already committed on the left it's very very obvious, but for most people politically disengaged anti-americanism wasn't nearly as widespread as it should have been.
>happening with or without the orange pedophile because capital produces its own gravediggersyes, he's a result of the developments of capitalism imploding, but going about it in a particularly stupid way that is in some ways useful.
>>2782619>the 200 years of monroe doctrine and 70 years of CIA coups didn't already do that?no, it did the opposite since it exterminated everyone that opposed the US
>>2782627>yes, he's a result of the developments of capitalism imploding, but going about it in a particularly stupid way that is in some ways useful.fair you've made a good point
>>2782630> it exterminated everyone that opposed the USbut you're talking to me right now and you and I oppose the US
>>2782623Okay but are they desperate to get the i guess super important demographic of leftist image board user? Look ill vote for Tucker if he say
>inshalla I have seen the light and communism is the way >>2782632we are not representative of a significant part of the population
>>2782634>we are not representative of a significant part of the populationwhat are you talking about, even in like 2013 when Obama was president a significant number of countries polled by the UN said the USA was the greatest threat to world peace
>>2782626Fun is reactionary
>I am nothing but a gloomy ascetict. Lenin
>>2782635>polledwho cares, the people that opposed the US in any meaningful way got exterminated in most places around the world during the cold war, just compare latam now to latam of the 20th century
>>2782640true, you're talking more about action than sentiment. that makes sense
>>2782633He isnt going for your vote dummy, he thinks israel support among conservatives will plummet past trump, and is trying to lock in those hypothetical future voters. Which is good news in some way that some hyper Nazis think the only way to earn public support in the future is throwing israel under the bus, at least rhetorically.
im gonna vooot
>>2782641the lack of action tells you about the sentiment, 200 years of monroe doctrine has created docile cattle around the world, not ardent american hate, if the later starts growing again it will be in not small part becuse of how obscene imperialism with Trump characteristics is
Motherfuckers why do you spam these thread with everything irrelevant but whats happening in iran and related talks?
>>2782677Because it's hard to know what isn't market manipulation or real anymore. At least whatever Iran says is usually true.
>>2782658Wouldn’t this majorly fuck over Europe? Like basically force them to choose their own economies or the U.S.?
>>2782677because there is a cuckfire
>>2782689it will force them to buy oil from the USA. and they will do it.
>>2782689yes but there are rumblings of a future nordstream 3 pipe to Russia that's built/owned/operated by America
is this account legit
https://x.com/QalaatAlMudiqhe says hundreds of hezb members have been killed so far but he seems to a pro-syria shill
>>2782635the issue wasn't just people recognizing the US as being bad, it was that the US was a devil-you-know deeply flawed country that still had some positives to go along with it if you placated it enough. That's not the same as thinking the US is a top to bottom vile hellbeast that needs to be defeated lest it kill us all.
>>2782705I think it’s less people seeing it in such emotionally charged terms and more that the United States is proving itself frankly unreliable, and has torn up so many of the norms
it established that it makes it pointless to deal with it.
Like fundamentally the U.S. is no longer a rational actor on the world stage. You don’t need to have contempt for the schizophrenic on the sidewalk screaming at cars to stop following him, but you certainly don’t want to stay near him.
>>2782226>>2782228US capitalists won the Iraq war, the privatized oil, reactionary Islamist government, and financial dependency are proof of that.
However we made the US nation bleed for it, full-scale invasions became a haunting prospect for US citizenry.
>>2782227>they actually did notBecause siphoning oil is a childish liberal caricature. The point was to open Iraqi oil, industries and infrastructure to multinationals. The US didn't even mind its geopolitical rivals getting involved in investments.
>>2782712whatever you want to call it, the US spent a lot of time pretending that for its many flaws it'd bring along some kind of a reliable shape for the future and on the whole there was a lot of grumbling but if you weren't directly in the sights of the guns people went along with it.
The other issue is that people just aren't nice obvious rational actors and emotion affects judgement and reasoning a lot more than we want it to.
we really need to add their account to the OP btw
https://nitter.net/ExplosiveMediaaalso the backup from arya @AryJeay (who got banned for sharing too much true facts)
https://nitter.net/AryJeayBackup>>2782745Based Islamic Republic
The only thing Iranian communists and pisslamists agree on is fuck western-allied Soviet imperialism
>>2782745I mean he did invade iran with the british during ww2, even if he was completely justified
>>2782766bros i can't wait until the nationalism fad is over. only 500000000000 more years
>>2782766>>2782769Exhibit B of western leftists mask off treating Iranian proles as subhumans in their geopol larp fantasy
Exhibit A is the protests general
>>2782772>saying Stalin was justified 80 years ago is treating Iranian proles as subhumanwhat
big chungus
>>2782782
liberals say this
>>2782743>'scratch a communist and find a philistine'gottem
>>2782777Stalin killed some iranian proles to urgently secure supply routes as Soviet people were being genocided on an industrial scale, so he was very bad. Let's also not forget like 10 million German proles which Stalin murdered in cold blood.
Communism is all about making sure that no cute proles die ever and nothing else. Come to think of it, we should never do a revolution because some proles will inevitably die on either side.
>>2782796Stalinism = Tsarism
Western Leftism = Crypto White Supremacy
>revolution is when genociding brown proles with British help
crackers ☕
>>2782799>>2782798>>2782790>Reza Shah Palavi is on axis side>USSR invades Iran<NOOOOOOOOOO JEWSEPH STEALIN WAS A PROLE KILLERleftychud dot org in 2026 lmfao
>>2782803Invading and liberating Hungary, and Romania would also have been a reactionary action according to this line of sentiment
nobody cares about history i notice. iran is good guy right now. america bad guy right now. therefore we MVST revise WW2 history to serve the propaganda purposes because we believe le workers are incapable of thinking more complexly than current sports teams
>>2782727It is sad and funny that Americans won't be moved by dead children but Lego is poggers and will fucking bring a rebellion
>>2782807>Americans won't be moved by dead childrenoh they are moved emotionall. but that's all they are. "bro stop showing me videos of dead palestinan kids, it makes me wanna kill myself"
they are not moved to action
>>2782808>they are not moved to actionAre you?
>>2782804>Invading and liberating Hungary, and Romania would also have been a reactionary actionI genuinely wouldn't be surprised if leftcoms actually believed this
yeah just let the bastion of communism, fall
>>2782809of course not. i got my own kid to worry about. i'm not gonna get myself arrested for kids 1000s of miles away even though i'm sad they're dead. i'm a coward, non-confrontational, careful. Like most people. I will only be stirred to action when my own safety is thratened. Like most people. I am honest about it… like
some people?
Most people are cowards until they're forced to act. Maybe someone or some group should do something adventurist to get things going? Not that I'm advocating anything I'm also a coward who doesn't want anything to happen ever but I don't know how else anything is supposed if we presumably we want it to happen.
>>2782816most third world proles see first wordlers with envy and fetishize them constantly, its the dominant ideology, ur just coping
>>2782816>they understand deep down why they're despised by us third world workersi mean yeah. it's stated on here every day in no uncertain terms. like here:
>>2782042 >>2782799>genocide is a popular word now, lets use it without care for its meaning to remove all its weightretard do you even realize what you're doing help the zionists cause? although, realistically, you're a glowie, so ofc you realize, its the whole point
also excerpt from the wiki, literally just before the war
>The Iranian authorities did not restrict the exportation of foodstuffs after a severe shortage in 1940; and there is slight reason to believe that the shortage now will make them more prudent in the future. In fact, grain monopoly agents were collecting grain in the region about Bojnord when I passed through, for export to Germany via the Soviet Union>"Thus it will be seen that the wage is insufficient even for food for a family and most workers have a starvation diet… It is not possible to buy adequate clothing or even to dream of luxuries such as education of the children.could it be the basic mechanism of ruthless capitalism under a monarchy set the stage for the famine in a period of turmoil? not that I expected an anticommunist glowie to read the actual article
now stop your derail you fuck
>>2782817>Maybe someone or some group should do something adventurist to get things going?But that's not what sets things in motion, actually. Shot a representative of the state, another takes his place. Organize a mass movement over 10-15 years ready to establish dual power during an objective crisis and have an armed populace declare a socialist republic, lead by a communist congress, and you don't need the bourgeois state, its apparatchiks, and its special armed body anymore.
>>2782816pic related
>>2782818You should always keep the mask off lil timmy
>>2782821Zionist says what?
>denying genocidal famine brought on by western imperialism using British imperial historians talking pointslol social chauvinists aren't even trying to hide their disdain for the international proletariat.
>>2782822>Organize a mass movement over 10-15 years ready to establish dual power during an objective crisis people have been trying to replicate this strat for decades and it simply doesnt happen in the current conditions, they hardly reach the mass movement part
>>2782825>using British imperial historians talking pointsthe quote is from
>Mohammad Gholi Majd (Persian: محمد قلی مجد), also known as M.G. Madjd, is an Iranian author whose primary field of work is the modern history of Iran.nice try glowie, but try to read the article you link first
calling someone zionist while carrying out their work, pretending to care about long dead iranians to troll threads about the war happening right now to living ones, truly glowies are pernicious
>>2782830>they hardly reach the mass movement partUh, yeah, have you forgotten the injections of surplus the imperialist block got from the USSR and looting western Asia for its oil? It kept the system running good for a while, but surplus is bound to run out sometime without appropriate production (which the west no longer has and the east no longer wants to give = multipolarism in a nutshell).
>>2782831>In April 1941, the American consul had traveled in eastern, central and southern Iran and noted the conditions: [your shitty quote]eat a dick western ziotard, you're re-purposing bengali famine revisionist talking points and blaming the victims of your genocide.
>The Iranian public accused the Allies of looting the country and pushing Iran into inflation and starvation. In December 1942, demonstrations against the scarcity of food became a daily occurrence in Tehran and eventually led to riots.>After nearly two weeks, Prime Minister Ahmad Qavam ordered the police to quell the protests with deadly force, resulting in a number of deaths and injuries on both sides. >>2782828The international struggle is not a non-national struggle. A workers only option to participate in the international is through the national
no one has a problem saying most germans supported nazi germany but if you say the same about the contemporary analogue of nazi germany and its volk you get banned here, whats the material explanation for this?
Anyone else following Bint Jbeil? I unironically think this might be the deciding factor for the ceasefire, supposedly Netanyahu is pressuring the IDF to completely capture the town for PR purposes and it smells like 2006 but Hezbollah is admittedly in a tough spot. I'm actually fucking anxious right now
>>2782849>Hezbollah is admittedly in a tough spotis it really any more than in previous wars? now they even got drones and missiles
>>2782833this strategy has also failed in countries outside the imperial core during the last decades so its not just imperial surplus thats not allowing it to work
>>2782849It's confirmed that no ceasefire was reached.
>#Iran|ian Perspectives on the U.S. Naval Blockade
>Iranian debate over the U.S. naval blockade is far from unified. Instead, several competing analytical frameworks have emerged, each offering a different reading of Washington’s intent, the blockade’s feasibility, and its likely trajectory.
>🔹One view sees the blockade as the start of a “semi-war” phase.
>🔹After failing militarily and diplomatically, Washington is turning to a third tool, namely sustained maritime pressure aimed at cutting Iran’s exports, reshaping control over the Strait, and increasing leverage.
>🔹In this reading, the blockade is not an endpoint but a transition, i.e., either a substitute for full-scale war or a stepping stone toward it. There is, however, a structural risk that this “escalation” may ultimately erode control for all actors involved.
>🔸A second camp is more skeptical. It frames the blockade less as a coherent strategy and more as signaling, arguing the U.S. lacks the capacity or willingness to absorb the costs of enforcing such a high-risk operation long-term.
>🔸From this perspective, the move is reactive, and a response to strategic deadlock. If Washington could impose outcomes militarily, it would not be experimenting with costly and globally disruptive alternatives.
>🔹A third interpretation views the blockade primarily as coercive diplomacy. The objective is not sustained enforcement, but leverage, i.e., pressuring Iran into concessions while preserving a pathway for de-escalation under the cover of negotiations.
>🔹Here, inconsistency in U.S. messaging – shifting from maximalist threats to narrower targeting – is seen as evidence of improvisation rather than a fully developed strategy.
>🔸A more alarmed group, however, treats the blockade as a de facto act of war. In their view, it already violates the ceasefire and risks becoming normalized if left unanswered, gradually eroding Iran’s strategic position.
>🔸This camp also situates the move within a broader pattern: using the ceasefire to constrain Iran while incrementally shifting realities on the ground, including in maritime and regional theaters.
>🔹Another line of analysis expands the scope further, arguing that the blockade is not just about Iran, but about the global economy.
>🔹In this view, by raising energy costs, Washington may be attempting to force major consumers – especially in Asia – to align against Tehran.
>🔸Finally, the official state narratives emphasize resilience.
>🔸They highlight Iran’s land-based trade routes, alternative corridors (e.g. via Pakistan), and stockpiled reserves, arguing the costs will fall more heavily on global markets than on Iran.
>➡️Across these views, the common thread is uncertainty. The blockade is not a bounded measure, but a move that risks setting off parallel tracks of pressure and escalation without a defined endpoint.
The fog of war has become opaque.
>>2782910
>gets shot by Werhmacht
How’s the Lebanon front looking? Hezbollah winning?
>>2782910
>Wehrmacht conscript
>proved capable of revolutionary defeatism
I dont think active and enthusiast participation in genocide qualify for revolutionary defeatism, but I understand why a glowie like you feel a kinship with them
>>2782936I've heard it said that Israeli ground forces have historically been pretty poor performers, hence them preferring shock and awe as well as bombing campaigns (air power being a distinct advantage they have over other forces in the region) and so it seems to me that their attempt to seize half of Lebanon might be undermined by the fact that it
requires intense ground operations.
Does Hezbollah use tunnel networks like Hamas? I imagine they've got some fortifications so they aren't just getting bombed out in the open. Not sure how Israel expects to actually hold the territory.
>>2782910
stinky rotten bait
>>2782946yeah they have plenty of tunnels, pre planned ambush point and shit. iirc southern lebanon has plenty of rocky hills very conductive to guerilla warfare with tunnels aplenty
>>2782946Israel has tried to fight Hezbollah like three times already and come up with no results, other than their assassination campaign 2 years ago. Whenever they fight them on the ground they embarrass themselves in a guerilla conflict where they have unclear goals. Perhaps things will be different with Syria taken out.
Holy shit, can Israel collapse already
>>2782990their stock market has doubled since oct 7
>>2782990it would easily collapse if there was an actual opposition to zionism in the great satan
If the Pope were actually based he'd excommunicate every Catholic in the Trump regime and start spitting about all those Bible verses in Acts on how communities should hold all their goods and property in common.
>>2783002Commies love the American pope for some reason.
>>2783005He's based in a sense for opposing the US/Israel and being anti-genocide, but I mean he's still literally the POPE, and the Catholic church holds more fucked up ideological positions and has commited more evil that you could fit in a 1 million word book on the subect.
He's good for a Pope compared to what we're used to from world leaders. That isn't the same as actually being good.
>>2783011>He's based in a sense for opposing the US/Israel and being anti-genocideOkay and? Pope Benedict consistently opposed the Iraq War.
Off topic, but in Ireland almost all Catholics & Leftists were always on the same side / the same people, whilst being on the Right & being Protestant similarly went hand in hand.
Kinda weird given how Catholics basically in all other times and places sided with the Right or with outright Fascists eg Franco, ᴉuᴉlossnW, etc.
>>2783012I presume your point is why weren't other previous Popes called based for being anti-war if Leo is being treated so positively for his stance on Iran today?
Benedict was in charge at the height of the Catholic church paedo rape scandal. He opposed contraception such as condoms during the height of the AIDs crisis, which led to inflated HIV infection numbers and death rates. He also flatly declared homosexuality to be evil which is very chuddy and not cool.
>>2783013So then what was wrong with Francis?
>>2783014I'm not some Papal expert, I don't know. I guess he was in charge inbetween the Iraq war and Gaza genocide though right?
>>2783016Yeah. Sorry I'm not trying to press you or anything. I'm not a communist so I'm just a little confused.
>>2783017>I'm not a communistwhat are you?
>>2783018I'm not sure anymore. I guess a libshit.
>>2783016>>2783014Leo is kind of continuing the restoration of The Church's image that Francis started.
During the Gazan Genocide, he was pretty outspoken in terms of asking for peace, I believe even saying that Netanyahu should be investigated for crimes against humanity. There are photos of him praying outside security checkpoints in the West Bank. He also directed Vatican Intelligence (called "The Entity" and may or may not officially exist) to work towards thawing relations between the U.S. and Cuba and push for peace negotiations between FARC and Colombia IIRC.
Thing is, most of Francis' tenure came after the controversial reign of Pope Benedict XVI, who was hard right (I believe he earned the nickname "God's Mastiff") and so people were already more wary of The Church at that time. He also reigned during a comparatively less insane time in geopolitics.
Leo is taking over in the midst of pretty much unrestrained Trumpian psychosis. The chaos Trump brings to both domestic politics and international relations is way harder to ignore. And if you look at the "leaders" to be found in Europe, most give the impression of kind of tacit silence even as Trump's policies
directly fuck them and the world at large over. At least in the Biden and Obama years there was a fig leaf of norms and liberal morals. Trump is mask off fascism. He'll say shit like "We're going to kill every Iranian and take their oil" and Europeans who'd spent
years by now frothing at the mouth about "Russia's unjustified invasion of Ukraine" were mum, or they'd make mealy mouthed expressions of "concern", and with tears in their eyes they'd ruthlessly purge anyone from their parties that think what Israel is doing constitutes a Genocide.
Against that backdrop, The Catholic Church is arguably one of the only major institutions in the Western World to say "No no no, hold on, this is morally bankrupt and wrong. Stop it." Like liberals and SocDems often give a performance about caring about rights and freedom and shit, but most of them retreated to vague exclamations that the situation in Gaza is "complex" and how we can spend years talking about it and never get anywhere so let's just all be quiet and pretend it isn't happening.
Hence, Pope Leo is earning a ton of goodwill because he's stating explicitly: "This is bad".
>>2783010I did care about Francis. I liked him, and gave me some hopium for Catholics, even with his watered-down version of the Liberation Theology.
>>2783032Non sequitur, nobody was talking about revolutionary defeatism. Look up what Lenin said about national and international culture
>>2783037but i never disagreed with what you said about that. you misinterpreted my gorilla gif. it was more of a "duh"
>>2783037> nobody was talking about revolutionary defeatismyou were talking about national struggle. i'm american, so for me the national struggle must be revolutionary defeatism.
>>2783039oh mb i thought mr gorilla was being sarcastic
>>2783040yes true. Thought I think america given its hegemonic history will specifically have a hard time amalgamizing with other nations when the revolution turns global
>>2782904what uae officers were killed in bahrain?
>>2782907what is that last image referring to?
>>2783060They must defend STEM from the imperialist Iraqis
>>2783086
>>2783094
>>/ISG/
China urges restoration of normal navigation in Strait of Hormuzhttps://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/highlight/2026/04/16/china-urges-restoration-of-normal-navigation-in-strait-of-hormuzChina’s foreign minister Wang Yi urged his Iranian counterpart Abbas Araqchi to make efforts to restore normal navigation in the Strait of Hormuz in a phone call on Wednesday, according to a Chinese foreign ministry statement.
Wang said while Iran’s sovereignty and security in the Strait of Hormuz should be respected and safeguarded, freedom and safety of navigation through the waterway should also be guaranteed.
There was unanimous interest among the international community for restoration of normal navigation in the strait, he said.
The situation is at a critical stage of transformation and the window for peace is opening, Wang said.
China supports maintaining the ceasefire and negotiations, which he said are in the interests of Iran, the region and the world.
China is willing to continue pushing to ease the situation and promote improvement of relations between countries in the region, Wang added.
>>2783028It is fitting that an Augustinian would stand against war.
>>2783103China should just put their damn warships into the strait and also help them get it operating at as fast a capacity as possible with Iran in control and just say fuck it. If the US interferes then the US is risking full war between the US and China. And I know Taiwan is still a problem but we're staring down the barrel of global famine and the worst global great depression in history if the strait just doesn't start pushing traffic again. I mean I know the economic fallout is baked in now but anything they can do to lessen the dent, the better. It would save millions of lives.
>Many want us to believe Islam is our enemy and we need to fight this war to defeat Islam.
this isn't your drumpfling's family gathering, amerimutt. nobody here believes that.
have you thought about shoving tucker posts downs your family's throat instead? they're certainly 100 times more likely to need tucker shilling and conversion than anyone here.
>>2783114 (samefag)
Wait, fuck, I feel dumb.
The Jordan airlifts are likely stuff that will get transported to Israel via land later. They've done this sort of this thing in both the 2025 war and this one for some reason. Note also how it's mostly USAF just like the Israeli destinations.
As always, Israel gets the highest prioritisation.
>>2783118
>ratio'd and mogged by ben shapiro
grim
also >>>/isg/>>2783118
>>2783120>The Jordan airlifts are likely stuffI hope that stuff isn't people.
>>2783120Probably because airports have only so much capacity
Tucker Carlson speaks out against the IHRA definition of "anti-Semitism."
"About forty states have adopted this… [it] tells you that criticism of the secular state of Israel or portions of the New Testament are 'anti-Semitism.'"
https://xcancel.com/infolibnews/status/2044624077617242198#mhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IHRA_definition_of_antisemitismThe definition has been criticised by academics, including legal scholars, for equating antisemitism with the criticism of Israeli actions and policies. Critics say the definiton can enable the weaponization of antisemitism to stifle free speech regarding Israel. They also argue that weaknesses in the working definition may lend themselves to abuse, that it may obstruct campaigning for the rights of Palestinians (as in the Palestine exception[12]), and that it is too vague.[13][14][b]
In February 2024, the American Civil Liberties Union wrote a letter to U.S. Education Secretary Miguel Cardona, warning that the IHRA definition of antisemitism could limit free speech about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict at U.S. colleges and universities.[250]
In February 2017, a letter signed by 243 British academics, who asserted that the "violation of the rights of Palestinians for more than 50 years" should not be silenced, contends "this definition seeks to conflate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism" and raised concerns about muddying the definition of antisemitism and restricting free debate on Israel.[211][212]
A 6 June 2023 report from the European Legal Support Center,[225] an activist defender of Palestinian rights in Europe, analyzes dozens of case studies and the report authors say that they show the IHRA definition being used to restrict freedom of expression and assembly.[226][227][228]
Hes right
>Tucker Carlson slams UK's Palestine Action ban, calls Keir Starmer 'enslaved'https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/tucker-carlson-slams-uks-palestine-action-ban-calls-keir-starmerProminent American journalist Tucker Carlson has condemned the British government's ban on the direct action group Palestine Action in an interview with the BBC.
Speaking on Sunday morning, BBC presenter Victoria Derbyshire asked Carlson, a former Fox News host who has been a staunch critic of the US-Israeli war on Iran, whether British Prime Minister Keir Starmer made the right decision.
"I don't think Keir Starmer makes any calls about anything," Carlson replied.
"I mean, Keir Starmer's not in control of Britain."
Carlson added: "No, Keir Starmer is every bit as enslaved as Donald Trump is. It is illegal - it is a crime for which you can be arrested - in Britain right now, criticising Israel. If you say you're for Palestine Action, you can be arrested.
"A lot of people have been arrested. So in other words, it is not legal in Britain to criticise another country."
Derbyshire challenged the statement, saying: “That is not true.”
Carlson responded: "I'm sorry, what is not true about that? Have people not been arrested in Britain for criticising Israel? They certainly have been."
Derbyshire replied: "If I may, Palestine Action is a proscribed group. It is banned. Therefore, people have been arrested."
"Why is it banned?" Carlson asked. "It's banned because the Israeli government wanted it banned."
We need free speech
>>2783133That's antisemitic. Samuel executed Agag and that was the end of Amalek. Amalekites were subsumed as resident aliens, like the one David killed when he learned of his son's death. Now why spam tuckerspammer? OCD?
>>2783144It's the same trick as when he spammed Gabbard. He wants you to love Tucker so you listen to Tucker when he endorses Vance like Gabbard did for Trump.
>>2783150None of those people have ever said anything worth listening to.
>>2783143So much Tuckerposting its embarassing, even for this fucking site
Hes a fascist grifter cynically uses anti-israel sentiment to gain popular support. You idiots are like white women when it comes to defending evil men like Carlson
>>2783154Does it belittle the sentiment when a man like Tucker says it?
>>2783156Yes. Keep my causes out your fucking mouth, fascist scum.
>>2783120 iirc US soldiers had pretty much been forced out of their bases by Iran aligned militias. They fled to Jordan and somewhere in Kurdistan to the north.
>>2783151
Lie.
>>2783152
Tell Tucker this.
>>2783156nta, but sentiment has to do with emotion. Gatekeepers are empowered by emotional attachment by making emotional appeals, particularly appeals to pride. Emotional manipulation and maintenance is costly and requires emotional investment from consumers. Seems like a hell of a business model, but even the gatekeepers could earn respect if they could learn to simply tell the truth.
>>2783156oh my god you really are a key jingling moron
so trump is forcing a blockade war so we can all suffer severe economic downturns, in a global economy already troubled by both the 2008 crisis and covid, after bombing a country because it needs to give up its uranium, which actually argues in favor of uranium enrichment…
>>2783174He is doing the blockade because Iran refused to continue the blockade. The goal is to sell American oil
>>2783176And we're going to run out soon. Then what?
>>2783177But it was huge profits while it lasted
>>2783178And maybe if the economic shitstorm were only going to be as bad as the one in 2008 they could get away with it but for those profits everything else is going to crash. The US economy is pretty much held up entirely by the AI bubble. That needs a constant flow of energy rich resources to keep bubbling. This will burst the bubble even faster. The end game of making big momentary oil profits until we dry up our reserves doesn't make any logical sense.
>>2783180>doesn't make any logical sense.I'm having difficulty remembering the last time the government did anything logical.
>>2783181so the bourgeoisie
doesn't fight in its own class interests?
>>2783182It's illogical to rule over ashes.
>>2783182The thing is, are we sure that what government does is what government wants to do, rather than a mistake?
It's kind of funny how the "state belongs to the ruling class and fulfills it's interest" is denied because people collectively believe that the state is insane and can't do anything right
>>2783103>freemalaysiatodaywhat the fuck is this, man. i feel like we should have higher standards for news sites, especially as the state department has decided to flood the zone.
>>2783185>It's illogical to rule over ashes.Not if your whole concept of value, is that a thing only has value if
you can have it and control it. Remember that to porkies there is no other god than capital and their individual selves and both exist to glorify each other.
Also libs in general can't see any other future than eternal present continuing forever, or total apocalyptic annihilation of civilization and the world. That's why liberal apocalyptic fiction is always either hopeless black void of decay or liberal society trying to jumpstart itself from the ruins to resemble something like the present. Also that's why libs might not care about destroying the world if them losing grasp on power and the world changing because of it, is the same as the end of the world.
>>2783196>Not if your whole concept of value, is that a thing only has value if you can have it and control it. The government doesn't operate by the golden rule but by whoever has the gold makes the rules. But the pewking arrogance of the ruling class is also their blind spot, full of unintended consequences and why they are so far removed from the hoi polloi.
Also idk much about libs but they can be annoying.
>>2783209>pewkingHoly shit
*peak*
>>2783318 (samefag)
It's not a real Bible verse, if anyone's wondering.
>>2783185>It's illogical to rule over ashes.crazy how so many people, even marxists, assume capital still has a modicum of Power when the populations of people it has to exploit are all dead
Are gulf countries happy about the blockade? I don't hear anything about them. Oil price has dropped a lot. Has Iran full cucked to the us Venezuela style?
>>2783318lmfao
>>2783339yeah he's a gen x george w bush doing epic tarantino movie references. next he'll do christopher walken's speech about shoving a gold watch up his ass for 7 years while a prisoner in vietnam
>>2783318he cannot capture samuel l jackson's aura when reading that shit in monotone
>>2783384from seethenhagen to copenhagen
>>2783354At this point its not even clear if the blockade is real.
>>2783384the suez isn't closed, why are they going around the horn
Is there a quick rundown of how things have gone since the ceasefire thing ended? In the first 5 weeks or so I kept hearing about how Iran was kicking ass but I haven't heard as much since the blockade thing started.
>>2783439I guess they don't want to take any chances. As someone said here tankers move slow and if the situation suddenly changes and the ceasefire collapses, the Houthis join, they'll be caught out
>>2783143Stop shitting up the thread with Tucker updates every day
>Trump announces Lebanon ceasefire>“I just had excellent conversations with the Highly Respected President Joseph Aoun, of Lebanon, and Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu, of Israel,” the US president said on Truth Social.
>“These two Leaders have agreed that in order to achieve PEACE between their Countries, they will formally begin a 10 Day CEASEFIRE at 5 P.M. EST,” Trump added.
>“On Tuesday, the two Countries met for the first time in 34 years here in Washington, D.C., with our Great Secretary of State, Marco Rubio. I have directed Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Rubio, together with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Dan Razin’ Caine, to work with Israel and Lebanon to achieve a Lasting PEACE.
>“It has been my Honor to solve 9 Wars across the World, and this will be my 10th, so let’s, GET IT DONE!”https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2026/4/16/iran-war-live-pakistan-in-push-for-new-round-of-us-iran-peace-negotiations >>2783477Is Hez part of this?
>>2783441Looks like Iran is not shooting anyone, therefore formally there is still a ceasefire. Blockade maybe real maybe be not, nobody knows
>>2783489good question. i just realised it moments after i posted it. i think it's only between the government of lebanon and israel. not hezbollah. so in fact it could be a trick against them.
>>2783507>make peace with your own proxyclassic burger win in this day and age
>>2783522is this the thirteenth war that Trump has solved? And then the Israelis and the US can turn around and say that they've agreed to the Islamabad deal. They achieved a ceasefire in Lebanon, correct? Meanwhile, the IDF rain down bombs and if Hez returns fire then they're breaking the deal.
>>2783327BLOKADE BLOKADEEEE
>>2783565Capitalist brothers in arms. Class solidarity is so beautiful
>>2783565i do believe behind the scenes the PRC has agreed not to sell weapons to Iran
>>2783581Yes they are confetti launchers.
>>2783581You joke but in China they actually do use old AA guns for cloud seeding.
>>2783477Yes.
🚨BREAKING: Hezbollah MP Ibrahim Moussawi tells me, "We will be respecting the ceasefire," and says the deal is based on the original agreement between the US and Iran that a ceasefire would apply to Lebanon.
FULL COMMENTS of Ibrahim Moussawi, Member of Lebanese Parliament, Loyalty to the Resistance Bloc:
"They went back to the same ceasefire agreement that has been reached to in Islamabad by the Iranian initiative.
"We will be respecting the ceasefire and we will deal with it cautiously, actually. And the Israelis have to abide by it completely, comprehensively in all of the Lebanese territories, including the areas bordering Palestine. And it should include total cessation of the hostilities and restraint to the movement of the Israelis to stop their assassinations. And it should hopefully be a beginning of a course of the Israeli withdrawal from our occupied territories."
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/hezbollah-mp-ibrahim-al-moussawi-israel-lebanon-ceasefire-talks-iran >>2783592Cloud seeding
ChemtrailsStupid Hoax
I don't think we need more bakes for this nothingburger
>>2783631In a world where leftypol trusted the bourgeoisie and coped themselves into believing that Pissrael would suffer long term
>>2783634We can always depend on big yahu to do something completely retarded and break the ceasefire
>>2783114Isn't jordan used just to defend missiles going to Israel?
>>2783648you know, it's so funny that trump is desperate pumping billions into future markets to keep it down 100, while the physical oil is closer $150.
refineries are going to cut production like crazy, lmao.
Currently two C-17s are heading to MENA, and earlier today there were four C-17s, one KC-135, one A-330 and one C-130.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=c2b3eb,ae49c7,ae026f,ae145e,ae07f3,3b75a8,706217,ae49c5,33ffe7>>2783565>so now trumpedo writes letter to himself in the name of Chynah.Americans basically gave a retard a loaded shotgun , and he is raining havoc all across the world. Classic U.S. of A.
>>2783565>>2783569>>2783572He said the same thing about how the Russians stopped ISR support when he asked but Iran's precision didn't drop one bit at all.
>>2783642Israel is such a liability. It would make more sense for the US to bomb it and start the settler project there all over again.
>>2783763They need a people willing to be in a state of constant war for that
The people of Pissrael are created with that in mind
You give us our ethnostate and green light on genocide and we will not budge no matter what.
>>2783654To a certain extent, yes. But it's pretty ineffective because there are now no THAADs located there ( there was one in the beginning of the war but its radar got groyped).
At least Hezb clutched
>>2783438 before the ceasefire.
gas prices going down…almost 10% in some places near me. are markets still responding to taco bullshit or are they actually adapting/projecting stability?
So… This war beside ruining American global image and soft power what did it achive
>>2783778They're based on paper WTI prices. It's why they increased so quickly early (despite no actual physical shortage) and why they're now slighly decreasing.
>>2783777why the fuck would Iran concede this? are they stupid????
>>2783791They have never not conceded this
>>2783784It killed a lot of Arab children. Something westerners and a majority of leftypol enjoys
>>2783792they should start now. they have all the leverage and every reason to.
>>2783777>BREAKING NEWSWow, Iran agreed to thing it was always agreeing to
>>2783800Everything Trump says about Iran should be seen as a lie until proven otherwise
>>2783795maybe if trump decides to declare war and go full retardo and invade all Iran. why alienate the weirdo arab nations that can't put a missile into israel's heart, but suddenly will ask for nukes if Iran has.
>>2783809that's fine. let them have nukes. everyone should have nukes. iran should have a nuke pointed at ever single USA city in the middle east (those countries are proxies therefore USA for all intents and purposes) and every single city in the mainland.
>>2783809 (me)
>>2783812but in any case the USA does not have the inudstrial capacity to produce the missiles or warheads to provide the nukes anyway
>>2783786>They're based on paper WTI prices.yes but does that mean volatility is real or speculative? do we expect it to slow down or keep swinging wildly?
>>2783817>yes but does that mean volatility is real or speculative?Speculative for now.
I forgot to mention that they only work under this paper prices regime so long as there aren't physical shortages.
For the next few weeks they'll continue to operate the same as before and depend entirely on traders' behaviours, however if the blockade continues past that the physical regime will take place which will lead to baseline price that none of the supply chain can ignore without losing money.
>>2783835Hey thanks man I like this guy.
>>2783854Based anti Irakkki imperialism akkktion.
>>2783870Iran was previously allowing tankers of allied nations (Russia, China) to pass which would generate revenue for them and alleviate shortages for their allies (mainly for China). Now the USA is not letting even those pass to put more economic pressure on Iran and to pressure it's allies (again mainly the PRC) to push Iran to make a deal.
>>2783896your fucking grandmother and her dog should have two nukes each
>>2783838That is the most stupidest comic ive ever seen made by Ben Garrison
>>2783892I am sure Russia and China are fine. India and Pakistan, ho-ho-ho-ho.
he wants other countries to go to war against Iran for a shitshow he started and double-downs.
Shia Islam > Marxism and this war proves it
>>2783938US can't resupply their ships?
>>2783938love to eat insoles smeared in sun cream
>>2783908>>2783957i hate you both but at least one of you flags and is filterable
>>2783958Ok taking off my flag and adding a name
>>2783957
explain why marxism is superior without using name calling
>>2783908This war only happened after the Cuckyatollah got killed and actually competent people from the secular IRGC took over
>>2783960Mohammad is a pedo
>>2783962What does the I in IRGC stand for anon
This conflict proves Iran, and by extent the rest of the world, have no revolutionary potential, for the third world to engage in revolution we need revolutionary defeatism, and for that to happen they need to lose the war, instead, this proved that Iran is a regional power that will now engage in imperialism by charging a toll on every ship. This is noe an inter-imperialist conflict
>>2783965He's sort of right. The IRGC doesn't completely overlap with the clerical class and has some secular factions inside of it.
>>2783966>revolutionary defeatismFor this to make sense you need a big communist movement, what makes you think this exists in Iran? Does it exist where you live?
>>2783973 (samefag)
More.
Command + EW vehicle destroyed.
>>2783966third worlders won't do revolutionary defeatism until the imperial core proles do it because the only historical instance of revolutionary defeatism being utilized was by lenin, in a specific context where troops were already sick of a very long war. in other instances like china and vietnam, the revolution was also an anti-colonial struggle, and no need to do revolutionary defeatism.
>the only historical instance of revolutionary defeatism being utilized was by lenin, in a specific context where troops were already sick of a very long war.
Tsarist Russia wasn't part of the imperial core
>in other instances like china and vietnam, the revolution was also an anti-colonial struggle, and no need to do revolutionary defeatism
Which is why they regressed to capitalism so fast
Jesus fucking Christ, the people pining for the Israel-Iran ceasefire are the dumbest motherfuckers on earth.
Lebanon's puppet government is literally declaring themselves "not at war" with Israel, while making common cause to disarm Hezbollah. This is, in fact a key part of the agreement for the "ceasefire", which by the way, reserves the right of Israel to continue doing as it pleases as long as it claims it's doing so defensively or whatever.
Someone needs to take the Iranian executive to the nice shed where people don't come back from, put China on ignore and declare a military junta.
>>2783980Iran and the AoR is also anti-colonial struggle.
I know the leftcom stuff is either bait or just terminal stupidity, but losing wars to the empire didn't bring communism to syria, libya or iraq. It won't to iran or lebanon either. It will just expand the anti-communist empire.
>>2784003>losing wars to the empire didn't bring communism to syria, libya or iraq. It won't to iran or lebanon either. It will just expand the anti-communist empire.that's why i say the onus for revolutionary defeatism is on the core, not the periphery, unless you expect everyone on the planet to do revolutionary defeatism simultaneously, which I think is highly unlikely though not impossible
>>2783983Tsarist Russia was an imperial empire in terminal decline. Imperial adjacent. I think the lesson is that the revolutions in the 20th century happened due to an artifical stall in the productive forces that required revolution. Similar things happened in the 19/18th century. In the 18th century you saw failed bourgeois revolutions in till the backwater that was America at the time had a successful bourgeois revolution. Then it spread to Europe, accelerated by napoleon who got stopped outside Russia at Waterloo. So I think we'll see similar in the 21st century. The communist revolutions of the 20th century provided indispensable theory and practice. Giving multiple models of revolutionary paths and a post capitalist framework. We prolly won't see revolutions in the coloqual west in till it's in a similar imperial decline that Russia and China. Forcing the prols in the west to liquidate the bourgeois as a class or die being starved by their incompetence or imperialised by much more dynamic and productive state capitalist regimes.
>>2784003Almost as if the third world doesn't magically engage in revolution as MTW believe.
>>2784028
You should he should be busy with the Iran and the U.S failing economy, but here we are. Hes bitching and moaning about podcasters. FFS.
>>2784028
I love how non-vip leftypol users get lQ censored to 'low autism score', while us, vips, get all cake. trump is high autism score.
>>2784052
Stop posting that fuck…
>>2784052
Keep posting that fuck…
>>2784052
>IDF has a black friend
>>278397821st century cyber and drone warfare drags on . 20th century conventional methods and means won't defeat it.
Someone bake.
>>2784052
You can tell this dude is controlled opposition because he's allowed to drop truth nukes like this without getting instantly banned from YT.
>>2784112baking rn dont expect much
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