USA wants WW3 and for billions to go hungry and get poorer so it can stay "number one"
While Iran gives Israel pause, they are setting up the i-legalization of Hezbollah.
If you haven't followed the Lebanese presidency X, you'll be pleased to know that the EU and GCC are basically all in agreement with the puppet regime to disarm Hezbollah. The regime is so fucking lame that they declare themselves "not at war" with Israel, as if an spectator in the "Israel-Hezbollah" war. While joining the Zios in demanding the disarmament of Hez.
Thanks, Iran. Raise the flag of cuckolding next, while you watch Hezbollah get fucked.
https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/04/ten-day-cessation-of-hostilities-to-enable-peace-negotiations-between-israel-and-lebanon/Ten Day Cessation of Hostilities to Enable Peace Negotiations Between Israel and LebanonMedia NoteOffice of the SpokespersonApril 16, 2026
The text of the following statement was agreed to by the Government of Israel and Government of Lebanon:
Following productive direct talks on April 14 between the governments of the Republic of Lebanon (hereinafter “Lebanon”) and the State of Israel (hereinafter “Israel”), brokered by the United States of America, Lebanon and Israel have reached an understanding in which both nations will work to create conditions conducive to lasting peace between the two countries, full recognition of each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and establishing genuine security along their shared border, while preserving Israel’s inherent right to self-defense.
Both countries recognize the significant challenges faced by the Lebanese state from non-state armed groups, which undermine Lebanon’s sovereignty and threaten regional stability. Both countries understand that those groups’ activities must be curtailed, such that the only forces authorized to bear arms in Lebanon will be the Lebanese Armed Forces (LAF), Internal Security Forces, Directorate of General Security, General Directorate of State Security, Lebanese Customs and Municipal Police (hereinafter “Lebanon’s security forces”).
Israel and Lebanon affirm that the two countries are not at war and commit to engaging in good-faith direct negotiations, facilitated by the United States, with the objective of achieving a comprehensive agreement that ensures lasting security, stability, and peace between the two countries.
To that end, the United States understands the following:
(1) Israel and Lebanon will implement a cessation of hostilities beginning on April 16, 2026, at 17:00 EST, for an initial period of ten days, as a gesture of goodwill by the Government of Israel, intended to enable good-faith negotiations toward a permanent security and peace agreement between Israel and Lebanon.
(2) This initial period may be extended by mutual agreement between Lebanon and Israel if progress is demonstrated in the negotiations and as Lebanon effectively demonstrates its ability to assert its sovereignty.
(3) Israel shall preserve its right to take all necessary measures in self-defense, at any time, against planned, imminent, or ongoing attacks. This shall not be impeded by the cessation of hostilities. Besides this, it will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian, military, and other state targets, in the territory of Lebanon by land, air, and sea.
(4) From April 16, 2026, at 17:00 EST, forward, with international support, the Government of Lebanon will take meaningful steps to prevent Hezbollah and all other rogue non-state armed groups in the territory of Lebanon from carrying out any attacks, operations, or hostile activities against Israeli targets.
(5) All parties recognize Lebanon’s security forces as having exclusive responsibility for Lebanon’s sovereignty and national defense; no other country or group has claim to be the guarantor of Lebanon’s sovereignty.
(6) Israel and Lebanon request that the United States facilitate further direct negotiations between the two countries with the objective of resolving all remaining issues, including demarcation of the international land boundary, with a view to concluding a comprehensive agreement that ensures lasting security, stability, and peace between the two countries.
The United States understands that the above commitments will be accepted by Israel and Lebanon concurrently with this announcement. These commitments are designed to create the conditions necessary for good-faith negotiations toward enduring peace and security. The United States further intends to lead international efforts to support Lebanon as a component of its broader efforts to advance stability and prosperity in the region.
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Watch China, Russia and Iran endorse this dogshit for "peace" as well.>>2784158 (me)
> resolving all remaining issues, including demarcation of the international land boundaryAlso Israel wants the puppet regime to rubberstamp annexing the south. And presumably ceding all the disputed hidrocarbon fields off the coast and whatever else hey can put in front of the spineless wretch to sign off on, as well.
Again, well done Iran. Hell of a deal so far, this ceasefire.
>>2784158Yeah, won't happen.
Fizzle.
iRAN cucked out and will take the deal.
>>2784141yep, one of the best things you can say to show people that capitalism and the unipolar world order are deeply irrational is that the ruling class wants to maintain a
relative advantage to everyone else for the sake of
feeling strong even if everyone is
absolutely worse off for it,
including them, in the long run, since the world would've been better otherwise. It's the kulak who burns his own grain rather than see it redistributed, but on a global scale.
>>2784141They're creating poverty while they plot and kill the poor as if they think overpopulation is the crisis and a mass extinction event is the cure.
state dept still flooding the zone?
>>2784158Imaging posting this, and believing Hezbollah will lose after israel literally failed to occupy a town 4km outside its borders.
>>2784255
>True
>>2784261
>Correct
>>2784270
>On point
>>2784276
>Good writing
>>2784282
>Good man
Lol, what a fucking mong
Guys. Guys. This is an inter-imperialist conflict.
Currently one C-17 and one KC-135 are on their way to MENA, and earlier today there were four C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae2fa5,ae0485,ae10ba,ae1196,ae07d8,ae20c3E-3 spotted over eastern Saudi Arabia.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae11e6>>2784311Ladies. Ladies. This is an inter-dengist conflict.
>>2784369trvthnova
dengism = economic nationalism = imperialism
>>2784263
Generals aren't the deep state that's just the state.
>>2784429no. but the doordash grandma was fake. he's a paid stooge of the GOP. i havent seen any information about the pilot since the rescue.
>>2784470What is the political exit route for Trump if it's over?
>>2784473Losing the election and dying at a golf course, consequently, multiparty elections continue, the Democratic party gets chosen, another geriatric faggot is blamed for the crisis of capitalism, repeat until capitalism breaks down completely
so everything has fizzled now? I was told the IRGC would never accept a deal
>>2784501source your ass?
>>2784501Following the 10 point plan and only for the duration of the ceasefire. Which means, pay the toll.
>>2784503Who fucking cares if Iranian porky gets to pocket more passive income with the toll, you guys were hyping up the blockade as forcing a massive realignment of the Gulf states but of course that was always bs.
>>2784511How the fuck did he go from getting punched in NYC to here. Did he teleport?
>>2784514like Jackson Hinkle with multiple clones/body doubles. that's how hinkle turns up in moscow one day and yemen the next
>>2784511Third world elites aint real man
>>2784527<look muh gay oil number>its le over!1You've already said this. Don't repeat yourself.
What's important to watch is the strait's traffic in the coming days before April 21st.
>>2784511he has that manchurian candidate look in his eye. like he's about to make zoolander real
>>2784545>Israel will not be bombing Lebanon any longer. They are PROHIBITED from doing so by the U.S.A. zogfags in shambles
Somehow Trump wiggled out of this jam
>>2784557>tfw the state dependent on us funding and weapons listens to the us rather than secretly controlling the worlds number one empire because epstein o algoBros? I thought the jews were omnipotent? Whats going on?
>gets bombed
>folds
What the fuck happened? Why tf did they still talk to the burgers? Fucking retarded cunts.
>>2784575Also turns out Trump wasnt lying when he said he spoke with more "reasonable" people in Iran. Watch him being right about Xi also. Cucks need to be shot. Strangle them, shoot them, throw them into a river.
>>2784575the strait remains open so long as lebanon is left alone so i give it a week tops before israel breaks the peace
>>2784578None of these people are cucks. They are the representatives of the bourgeoisie, acting by and large in their interest.
>>2784582>strait remains open so long as lebanon is left alonelebanon, not hezbollah. They should know better. They essentially gave Trump the go ahead he can get rid of them and they wont intervene. Cucked beyond belief.
>>2784578Someone smarter than me pointed out that since the entire war hinged on market reaction, the US has an incentive to overstate negotiations and Iran had an incentive to underplay them, which is why messaging between two countries was radically opposed, even though there were negotiations, and the US had been slowly agreeing with Iran's maximalist goals
>>2784588Not gonna lie, I thought the burgers were going to fare way better based on their bet on internal instability in Iran. This is the one thing I have to concede to sizzlesisters
Is it fucking over
>>2784588>US had been slowly agreeing with Iran's maximalist goalsIt's also that they have not much of a choice. Iran has gotten most of the ten points in practice by force, not by US agreeing to them. US bases are largely unusable and US troops were forced to withdraw from Syria and Iraq into Jordan. There also went large chunk of US ability to persecute war on Iran and hope to force control on Hormuz. Through Hormuz Iran can get all leverage and reparations it wants.
>>2784588Chinese pressure, mostly.
FIZZLE
>>2784634*dinars
fucking auto correct
>>2784511Sneako is an islamist propagandist
>>2784643Does it even work with a cope cage over it?
>>2784646
true true
>>2784652>picdo NOT google the 1995 conoco-iran deal
>>2784659Avoid reading this
>>2784199 >>2784661Funny how Westoid propaganda outlets refuse to mention China imposing it's will onto USA and forcing it to sign peace with Iran through threats of sanctions. Fucking complete silence, as if it didn't even happen
So we'll just get JCPOA but dumber and worse I guess
>>2784665Last I read from westoid propaganda outlets, 2 Chinese vessels were turned away by the blockade. Unless that was a lie.
>>2784678How can you guys keep up with his latest posts? At this point, it's just all shitpost
Fizzled? Like this? Bullshit
>>2784678So much nonsense in that post (and all of them really) that it's difficult to take the "prohibition" part seriously
>>2784672Remember that propaganda still mostly does it's thing on you if you think that you are surrounded by rabid idiots who believe the propaganda and keep quiet or self-censor in public in fear of being, harassed, fired, ostracized, etc because of it.
Currently seven C-17s are on their way to MENA, and earlier today there were four C-17s, one C-2, one 767-200 and one C-40A.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae080c,ae2faa,ae07e6,ae07f3,ae07db,ae119a,06a27a,ae07e4,ae144c,33fe92,ae0451,896c2e,ae145f,ae638dWings of Zion flew back from Berlin after more than one and a half months.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7386c0More tanker movements from Romania.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae041d,ae02bcIt's over when it's over.
>>2784687I'm checking out from this conflict. Too much fake news and all the """"analysts"""" have proven themselves to be total frauds who are just throwing shit out.
Who's going to win?
>>2784690If it ends here, it's a strategic loss for US.
>>2784672The Iranian elites chose to become China's Ukraine.
I said it at the start of the conflict and kept my hopes throughout, the only way good things could come out of this conflict. Would be if military officers disregarded the chain of command or otherwise were empowered to act with autonomy and put their people above the interest of the bourgeoisie, particularly the foreign bourgeoisie from Russia and China.
Alas, that seems to have not happened. So here we are. Conceding on everything because (the foreign) Porky has hit their limit tolerance for economic distress.
If US falls, I wonder if the new imperial forces will be better or worse.
>>2784711Probably wont happen doe
>>2784712Everything perishes
>>2784715Nothing ever good happens in my life so it wont happen
China will become fully socialist in two weeks
>>2784710No I just happen to see Iranians as more than an expendable resource to extend the profits of Chinese/RF capitalists.
But you are right, of course. It is the Chinese/RF capitalist who calls the shots here. And you can rightly blame them for all the is to come.
>>2784711the US will always exist in some form. whatever it turns out to be though from now its gonna be a periphery superpower cuz two oceans isolate it and all the action/intrigue is in Eurasia
>>2784707>Conceding on everythingI'm always skeptical of AoR hype narratives but let's not jump to conclusions so soon. We don't know what has or has not been agreed to (Trump "truths" are false until proven otherwise). And as long as the Islamic Republic still stands and still have ballistic missiles, the US-Israel pedophile axis has failed.
leftypol is revisionist
>>2784728If by US you mean some kind of existing imperialism then yeah, it will continue to exist until class society ceases to exist.
>>2784711Nobody will be able to match the global dominance of the US ever again. It was a unique historical aberration borne out of the fact that WW2 destroyed all their competitors. We'll likely revert back to a pre-WW1 type scenario with 5-6 roughly equal imperial powers competing for dominance.
trump has been lying from day 0 of this retarded war and leftoidpol suddenly is full of I'M GOING TO BELIEVE THIS MAN!!
>>2784745
No. The bourgeoisie can be divided into wholesome and bad. Iran is in the wholesome camp, which means you have to support them. Simple as.
>>2784740
lib
>>2784754Chinese are the worst of all worlds, oriental liberalism
>>2784754I love China, but we have to admit it's a capitalist state trying to extend its influence. It's a degenerate worker state
>>2784757>>2784678inb4 erm no I didn't believe that for a second
>>2784747Source:
https://xcancel.com/araghchi/status/2045121573124759713#mFor reference, this
>>2784158 (me) Is the "ceasefire" this terminal cuck "is fine with".
Those terms, which pointedly include the disarmament of Hezbollah. Which LITERALLY EXCLUDE ISRAEL FROM THE CEASEFIRE. And leave open the negotiation of "the demarcation of the international land boundary" AKA Israel annexing pars of the south.
>>2784765
trump would never lie to me, the idf will absolutely not be feeding spoons of white phosphorus to lebanese children in beirut in a week from ow
>>2784747So they control it?
>>2784761I don't get why you want to defend to defend Chinese capitalism.
>>2784772>no strait of trumpbro fell off
>>2784575They didn't fold. Iran won
>>2784776
no but capitalist jews control at least 50% of the us ruling class which comes close
>>2784774That's why ur a lib
>>2784782
no idea bro why are you so defensive? I was initially laughing at you for believing trump and you come out with "joos" all of the sudden
>>2784781>>2784783>next stage is communist revolutionTwo more weeks revisionist bros
>>2784788
holy shit you're retarded lol
Three hours until the markets close for the week, once that happens the battle resumes
>>2784791
Fuck you and fuck communists, you’re all cynical liberals vyng for power
>>2784796
Man it's just One Battle After Another Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, huh?
>le my side is winning
<no le my side is winning
ya'll niqqas need to stop being so spectacle brained
>>2784643I still find it hilarious that the commonly accepted name for the most effective, cheap and reliable defense from drones that literally everyone use now has "cope" in it because nafotards wanted to laugh at russia innovation
I'm a trot
>>2784650probably not, a faraday cage (so any metallic cage) should block the EM waves that a radar use
>>2784786Bernie is winning, winning, lost!
>>2784707>China's Ukrainewhat a retarded fucking post, as if the situation was in any way comparable
>>2784809welcome to libtardpol
>>2784766>nooo iran is concerned with the material reality and not the retarded paper copethey blocked the strait as long as hezbollah was getting hit, and now that its not they open it. They will close it again if israel fuck up (which they will). And this is all for a week for now.
Also lebanon is not in civil war yet, so I have to conclude all these word of disarming hezbollah mean nothing
>AKA Israel annexing pars of the south.or israel loosing what it already occupied for all you know, because you know fucking nothing
My hope for anything other than this full capitulation, which it seems. Is that the international Porky has agreed on making all parts pretend, before the markets close, to plummet the hidrocarbon futures and release some of the economic pressure. But the fact that both Iran and Hez would allow this, and publicly sign on to it is still a indictment of where the loyalties lie.
So I guess I'm still hoping for a continuation of the conflict and a few more throws of the die.
>>2784800Literally impossible for some, and it has actually gotten worse.
>>2784735and mods are freikorps
>Pseudo-ultra Type A - pretends he cares about prole lives to disguise his Western chauvinism, disdains all opposition to Western imperialism
>Pseudo-ultra Type B - disdains all opposition to Western imperialism, because it isn't ideologically pure enough due to Christcuckery, jumps at the gun to remind people of the opposition's impurity every time peace is floated
>Pseudo-ultra type C1 - actual glowie yammering about Iranian and Chinese "imperialism"
>Pseudo-ultra type C2 - KKE revisionism listening retard that does the above's job for free, because trade and commodities are imperialism
>Pseudo-ultra type D - incoherent, lashes out at everything and everyone, constant happenings and believing posts from Twitter driving them to psychosis
>>2784873It was one single dude
>>2784710I thought china was winning by doing nothing bro, you mean to tell me their economy was on the line?
>>2784885>I thought china was winning by doing nothing bro, nope that's just a meme. they actually won by doing everything, including producing about 20% of the commodities America imports
>you mean to tell me their economy was on the line?everyone's economy is on the line always, that's why they have wars
Imagine denying there is no Chinese imperialism
>>2784707Iran won. The burgers don't control the strait and they're evacuating their bases in the gulf states. Now the bases are hardly occupied.
>>2784891I will never say anything bad about Jewish people ever again after this is over. I'm sorry bro. 😑
>The opening of the Strait of Hormuz is not unrestricted and comes with three conditions:
>1. Only commercial ships are allowed to pass; military vessels or shipments from belligerent parties are not permitted to transit.
>2. The management and determination of which ships may pass lies with Iran.
>3. This transit occurs only via the route designated by Iran.
>>2784646
kill yourself
>>2784902Gotta love market manipulation its so mmm good that the ai algorithms just pump and dump based on the news no humans required. Dont you love the future.
seems like americans are doing all the planning they failed to do when the war started: gathering more troops, replenishing stocks, etc.
wouldn't be surprised if they're smuggling weapons to kurdistan and iran and contacting more pliable leadership among the clergy.
drumpf must be writing a list of all the iranians that have mocked him in public so israel kills them on the 1st day of the next wave, like that bearded spokesperson or ghalibaf.
is iran preparing for the next bout or are they idling and playing with their thumbs?
>>2784914>is iran preparing for the next bout or are they idling and playing with their thumbs?They pretty clearly made extensive preparations after the 12 Day War. I doubt they are just sitting around.
>>2784914>replenishing stocksBruh.
So who's the bigger cuck, Iran or Piers Morgan?
>>2784926Why do they want thanks for dragging the rest of the world?
>>2784926mm delicious zionist seethe
>>2784914>is iran preparing for the next bout or are they idling and playing with their thumbs?The next bout will be even more of an uphill battle. Iran really got most of its goals in this war, especially pushing out the US from neighbouring bases, maybe Israel will hit again but it doesnt seem like Trump has the appetite to strike again. I guess we'll see but in a week or two won't have iran war generals but Cuba war generals, which fucking sucks what an evil country the US is
>>2784951Why? Is this a cuck off
>>2784958When dragons fight beneath the water, all outsiders see are ripples on the surface
>>2784958did trump even lift the blockade
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/04/13/hfpr-a13.html
>The New York Times, the Democratic Party and the preparation of Phase 2 of the war against IranDavid North
>>2784984
What the fuck is wrong with his eyebrows
>>2784914>smuggling weapons to kurdistan big doubt any significant amount of kurds will suicide for them
>and iran because the best times to do this is in a state of active war with heightened security all around and checkpoints everywhere
>more pliable leadership among the clergythe "clergy" arent the leadership, the new khameini is smart enough to not show himself to get assassinated, and secretly talking with americans right now is prolly a great way to get a bullet through the back of your head
>is iran preparing for the next bout or are they idling and playing with their thumbs?what do you think dumbass?
>>2784984
Instead of spamming this here why not target his comment section? Again, Samuel executed Agag and that was the end of Amalek. Amalekites were subsumed into the Israelites as resident aliens. Amalek lives in Benny and Benji.
shit the guy who had made a video on how to build a DIY manpad was banned or closed his account. Anyone saved the vid?
>>2784999what war? oh you mean the special military operation?
>>2784999I heard the Guard is waiting for the order from the Ayatollah to reopen the strait.
i had a gay dream with supreme leader mojtaba wtf
https://chinarbitrageur.substack.com/p/hostile-symbiosis-a-world-where-win…
>This is why, in this series, I cannot use the language of “who won” or “who lost” to describe the world after Islamabad.
>Because “win” and “lose” are war-system vocabulary. They assume a war has an end. They assume that after that end, one side stands above the other. Yalta 1945 had winners and losers. Westphalia 1648 had winners and losers. Every great settlement has a clean victory structure.
<And hostile symbiosis has no victory structure.
>System A lost five times in Islamabad. Every loss was real. But those five losses did not kill System A — because System B cannot let System A die. System B won a war in which it sent no soldiers. But this victory did not let System B take over the world — because taking over the world means losing its largest customer.
>The entire Western analyst circle has been using “who won, who lost” language to discuss Islamabad. Daniel Davis is writing “America lost.” Trita Parsi is writing “strategic blunder.” They are all using a vocabulary that has expired.
>It is not that their judgments are wrong. It is that their judgments are incomplete. “America lost” is true, but “America cannot die” is also true. “Iran won” is true, but “Iran’s victory only exists as long as China is willing to keep buying its oil” is also true. Every victory or defeat judgment requires an opposing, equally true judgment to complete it.
<This is the epistemological consequence of hostile symbiosis. It is a state you can only describe by holding two contradictory judgments simultaneously.
>And the Western reader’s instinctive reaction is: “So what is the real result of this war? Who actually won?” — this question itself is wrong. The world after Islamabad no longer produces this kind of answer. It produces a continuous, two-sided, endless tension — every time System A tries to push back, it deepens its dependency on System B; every time System B tries to expand, it ties itself more tightly to its largest attacker.
>This is a new state of the world. It does not need you to accept “who won.” It needs you to accept that the question of winning and losing has expired. >>2785019>hostile symbiosis has no victory structureThat's a good way of putting it.
>>2785019Don't tell me this is the work of that grifter professor Jiang?
>>2784926Thank you israel for another forever war in the middle east. Also thank you for operating a child trafficking blackmail ring and the waze app. Truly all you do is give back to the world
>>2785042>>2784951picrel
Flood detected; Post discarded.
>>2785019baudrillard predicted this
>>2785029>>2785032Telling on yourselves.
>>2785019the essay that destroyed /leftypol/
what's Iran's statement on the ceasefire? Trump is saying they've agreed to completely suspend their nuclear program and open the strait
>>2785033I saw a screenshot of a AI generated channel which had a chinese man with glasses talking about the Iran War.
copying 'Professor' Jiang. I predict we'll soon see more AI generated professor jiang's popping up like how those japanese salaryman youtubes started turning up everywhere
kinda sorta sorta kinda looking like its seeming like maybe iran is cuckin a lil bit
bruh, y'all didn't see this but since day 1 iran lost
>>2785019>we didnt loose because acktually war dont end anymore, and china is just overproducing so it needs the useless americansdelusional lib analysis
>>2785019What makes this dude qualified to make this analysis?
>>2785048ok retard, go share your pseud schizo rambling somewhere with more stupid people, you might have success on pol
is araghchi an USA agent?
I don't want the US empire to win bros :(
<auto translated from persian, clarification after aragachi tweet>The announcement of the opening of the Strait of Hormuz with very special conditions and in full coordination with the responsible forces of the issue will be carried out and will be very limited. This passage, which is subject to the continuation of the implementation of the ceasefire conditions, will have three conditions: First, the passage of the determined path of Iran will take place. The entrance to the strait will be from the north of the island of Lark and the exit from the strait from the south of Lark, and thus the Strait of Hormuz will be completely transferred to the territorial waters of Iran. This is a historical, unprecedented and lasting change in the Persian Gulf and guarantees Iran’s rule over the strait forever. In this way, Iran is actually conducting an unprecedented ‘redirection’ operation in the strait. The second condition, also in the tweet of the foreign minister, is that only the ‘commercial’ ships will have the right to cross the strait. It will be with Iran to determine which ship is commercial, and this will not include any vessels with any contact with the enemy, and therefore the passage will be virtually limited and will not be free with the diagnosis of Iran. Commercial vessels that pass the transitory must also pay the security duties to Iran. The third condition is that the passage will be carried out in coordination with the Iranian maritime forces in the strait, the IRGC Navy. Considering the set of these conditions, passing through the limited strait will be with the payment of tolls and with the management of Iran, and this is what Iran has been pursuing since the beginning of the war and has now imposed it on the United States.https://thetricontinental.org/newsletterissue/a-primer-on-the-petrodollar/<We hope the above primer has helped explain some of the more arcane parts of the present conjuncture. These concepts and processes are important to understand because Iran has linked yuan-denominated oil trade to safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz as a leverage against the United States. By controlling a chokepoint carrying major global oil flows, Iran can bypass sanctions, undermine the petrodollar system, and strengthen ties with China. While this may not in itself destroy the petrodollar system, it inflicts upon the US a significant cost for its unwillingness to come to a grand bargain and end an almost fifty-year conflict >>2785059The biggest losers in this war are the ones who had nothing to do with it in the east suffering worse effects than the west, but nobody should consider anything a win if they are worse off than before. Not even the huge egos who started it all.
>all this seethe because the "muh team won/ your team lost!" spectaclebrained multipolaroid framework is being questioned
kek
>>2785069>its not a checkmate just cause my king is threatened and will still be threatened whatever is the moves I do!cope burger
>>2785071
take this fucking garbage to usapol
>>2785071
UBI isn't socialism
>>2785069More like because the person doing the questioning uses a bunch of pseudo-intellectual buzzwords to describe themselves.
Again, why should any of us take this guy seriously?
>>2785071
elon is genuinely more of a communist than 90% of so called marxists. based as fuck
>>2785063nah brother he's just making bank by coordinating messaging, which is insane how strongly markets react even though the ceasefire is ending next week and there has been 0 announcements from either side on whether it will extend or not
>>2785079You will need to slap yourself, since I am not near (you).
>>2785085yea cuz the ones crossing dont have their radar shit on dumbass. its back to normal oil is passing through keep coping
>>2785072>its not a checkmatethats not what it says, you are iliterate
>>2785077i dont care about how he describes himself he is simply pointing out a consequence of everything being highly integrated on a global system and you guys lose your shit because it goes against the team sport mentality you guys apply to geopolitics
>>2785077>game theorybahaha just like jinga
>>2785088keep coping uygha. i'll be profiting off of these shorts
>>2785078sorry I wont misgender multipolaristas again
>>2785093>uyghaWhy the fuck do you think that shit is funny? Are you like 12?
>>2785093Post loss porn, in case the Fed gets tired of manipulating oil futures.
>>2785096try saying uygha
>>2785089>i dont care about how he describes himselfI do. If the dude doesn't have any actual qualifications, then he's just some guy. And in that case
Why.
Should.
I.
Care?
I can make an "analysis" that "proves" that the US Iran war is fueled by people fapping to yaoi, and it would be just as valid as this guy's "analysis" given what we know about him.
>>2785093who cares, this isn't biz, you're trading cuck tokens and you're bound to get short squeezed because oil is physically absent and even if the strait is opened it'll take months for shut in production to resume, and you won't even find out when the turnaround point will happen
>>2785084
He's blowing smoke. It would cause hyperinflation and wreck the economy like Mansa Musa did to Egypt with an influx of gold.
>>2785100you should stop reading imageboard posts then since posts here dont come with any credentials, yet you are here reading this
>>2785093read yourself. if by your own claim they need to hide from Iranians, then the strait is not open. now, log-off, and think of another more subtle, strengthen reinforced fallacy to troll in here, because with that, you are only displaying idiocy.
>I was just pretending to be an idiot, I SWEAR!
>>2785110he probably posted his own article here thats why he's got so butblasted. tough crowd.
>>2785109I cant take this seriously if you dont post your credentials
im over here in iran im moving my fucking ships man hahahaha. virgins
Uh oh.
Qalibaf responds to Trump: The Strait of Hormuz will not remain open as long as the blockade continues.<Qalibaf attacks the US president’s statements, describing them as false, and stressing that the continuation of the blockade will affect the status of the Strait of Hormuz, and that passage through it will be subject to Iran’s permission.https://www.almayadeen.net/news/politics/%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%81-%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7-%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%89-%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8--%D9%85%D8%B6%D9%8A%D9%82-%D9%87%D8%B1%D9%85%D8%B2-%D9%84%D9%86-%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%82%D9%89-%D9%85%D9%81%D8%AA%D9%88%D8%AD%D8%A7-%D9%85%D8%B9-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7>>2785019Prolly accurately describe the last 30 years or so but the idea of an enternal system is dumb. System A is doomed to failure and while System B could face a shock. It's far easier to overcome a crisis of overproduction than a debt spiral.
>>2785117End result of third worldsim is just a shifting of the imperial core. I support third worldsim in the short term because I think even development and nuclear proliferation will end imperialism and class conflict will become the sole politics.
>>2785071
>we will just give you money now that we don't need you anymore
sure they will
>>2785124>End result of third worldsim is just a shifting of the imperial core.This is literally impossible, the conditions that brought US dominance will never materialize for any other nation ever
>>2785124>End result of third worldsim is just a shifting of the imperial core.No, it's global nuclear holocaust, because the West would rather end the world than extract resources under the same conditions they force Africans to for the benefit of others.
It's what horrifies them the most. They
know what they did, what they ignored, and on whose backs their living was made.
>>2785123Trump was just lying all day today. There's no deal. There's no agreement about uranium or anything else. Iran is just opening the strait (conditionally) because the Lebanon part of the ceasefire agreement was finally fulfilled, and this only lasts until the ceasefire ends.
Everything else was just trump lying to make line go down before market close. When the ceasefire ends or even before he will launch another attack and try to murder the remaining leaders and bomb iran into submission.
>>2785126leftcoms pre-emptively convicting the global south of imperialism's crimes is sinister and disgusting. After the US falls, there is no state or bloc that will have the global power the US has had after the cold war. The unipolar world is an anomaly of a particular historical moment and geography. It can't just be moved around to others in different time and space. USA is the last global hegemon we will see in our lifetimes. The only question is how long it will continue.
>>2785134>The unipolar world is an anomaly of a particular historical moment and geography. It can't just be moved around to others in different time and space. USA is the last global hegemon we will see in our lifetimes. big facts
>>2785133
That guy was just a PUA who couldn't get laid on his own.
>>2785019>This is the epistemological consequence of hostile symbiosis. It is a state you can only describe by holding two contradictory judgments simultaneously.someone just reinvented dialectical unity of opposites.
>>2785126>This is literally impossible, the conditions that brought US dominance will never materialize for any other nation everdelulu. iran builds shaheds faster than burgers build patriots. PLA and IRGC gigachads actually want to kill and die for their country while burgers don't want to do either anymore. we will be the new sweatshop by 2100.
>>2785134> USA is the last global hegemon we will see in our lifetimes.My optimistic side hopes you are right and my pessimistic side suspects you are wrong. My pessimistic side usually "wins" whenever reality cashes its check.
>>2785126>This is literally impossible, the conditions that brought US dominance will never materialize for any other nation everExact same conditions? No, but a multipolor world doesn't mean the end of imperialism, capitalism or uneven development.
>>2785127>No, it's global nuclear holocaust, because the West would rather end the world than extract resources under the same conditions they force Africans to for the benefit of others.That's stupid. That's more stupid than podsidim, because at least they thought nuclear war would bring aliens.
>>2785144if all it took to build a hegemon was a willing army then we'd all be soviets i reckon. dumb post.
>>2785147>No, but a multipolor world doesn't mean the end of imperialismDefinitionally, yes it does.
>>2785152No it doesn't lmao, imperialism existed before unipolarity. I also dont think unipolarity will be some one off or that the capital of capital can't move to another center. Maybe it will be but I see no evidence otherwise. The fact unipolarity happened once means it can happen again.
>>2785157>No it doesn't lmao, imperialism existed before unipolarity.You need to read a book, imperalism needs a country to be able to enforce a worldwide monopoly, multipolarism is literally the opposite of a monopoly you fuckin goon.
>>2785158 (me)
This is why the iran war is an immense geopolitical shock, if the US can't guarantee free transit then it's fucking over, it's not a hegemon anymore.
>>2785142dialectical unity implies a disolution of the contradiction tho, not the endless tension he is pointing out
>>2785134>leftcoms pre-emptively convicting the global south of imperialism's crimes is sinister and disgusting.>convicting>crimesfuck the leftcom troll, but also fuck this moralspookery. the idea of a core moving is based on imperialism being a system, a global machine. thinking a new country would occupy the hegemonic throne if the old hegemon fell isn't the same thing as "pre-emptively convicting" anyone. Thinking nations and systems have an individual consciousness, free will, and the ability to commit crimes is so spooky I don't even know where to begin. Imperialism is less like a person on trial in a courtroom and more like a fungal network deep in the soil.
Just like America didn't put an end to the Islamic Republic merely by killing its supreme leader, the world won't put an end to imperialism just by deposing the current hegemon
>>2785148it's not just a willing army they literally began by pointing out the production disparity. burgers don't make shit anymore. every war since the US civil war has been at least partially decided by disparity in production capacity between the two opponents.
>>2785166>it's not just a willing army they literally began by pointing out the production disparity.a production disparity in a handful of weapons that have proven useful to limit the access to a strait, which is a far cry from being an imperial hegemon. at this point i'm suspecting you're the leftcom in disguise who insists "control of the strait" is tantamount to imperialism.
>>2785158No it doesn't, imperialism can easily exist in a multipolor world and has before. You can't claim that unipolarity is a one off and then claim imperialism only can exist under unipolarity when the fucking term was coined UNDER A UNIPOLARITY WORLD. Most works on imperialism were created before the idea of a unipolarity world was even possible.
>>2785169>No it doesn't, imperialism can easily exist in a multipolor world and has before.By whose definition? You're making shit up, stop getting defensive, and comprehend that a competitive stage, which a multipolar world implies, is a stage previous to imperialism. this is chapter fucking I of lenin's imperialism, dear fucking god.
>>2785168> at this point i'm suspecting you're the leftcom in disguise who insists "control of the strait" is tantamount to imperialism.the leftcom retard has never disguised himself and is 100x more hostile than me in every post. burgers are cooked. they can't produce shit. they're fucking done. it's over. burger empire will at best last another decade, and they're barely hanging on as it is. burgers will MAYBE do some falklands war tier shit after that. this is for sure the burger suez crisis.
>>27851700/10 stale bait, get better material
>>2785171Multipolarists would've loved the late 19th century and the leadup to WWI. So many options for critical support! Who would leftychuds root for? Ottoman Empire?
>>2785176it was more intended as a dumb joke than bait, but thanks for the (You) cutey-pie
>>2785158multipolarism is just a return to the old imperialism of the late 19th/early 20th century (which is a good thing), you are retarded
>>2785175perhaps you're confusing terms and think european nations doing colonialism in africa is imperialism?
>>2785177Verdun. Somme. Anzio.
>>2785182Are you really suggesting England, France, and Germany weren't imperialist nations during WW1?
>>2785171Whatever you do don't google what year Lenin wrote "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism".
>>2785169Multipolority world* not unipolarity
>>2785175This
>>2785177yeah thats the imperialism that lead to revolutions happening before NATO cucked history and locked us on the fukuyama cringe era that its now finally ending
>>2785144complete moron, you dont even understand what is discussed
>>2785190I just assume those are tourists along with /pol/ types that always show up to happenings threads to spout the dumbest shit you ever heard, not something persistent, like a fart in an elevator.
>>2785156mate why dont you make stats, a spreadsheet or smth, so we can actually see how these flight pattern are changing. Posting random movement when nobody is tracking the evolution is kinda useless
>>2785192the guy that always goes on about the oriental mode of production is a regular im pretty sure
>>2785192well pol tourists are less like a fart in an elevator and more like fleas in an old carpet. individual fleas come and go but it's hard to get rid of all of them, and they're constantly present.
>>2785191(15:15 is the timestamp you want btw)
>>2785177>the late 19th century and the leadup to WWIproduced the international communist movement and the last meaningful challenge and alternative to global capitalism and imperialism.
unipolarity is the defeat and negation of socialism and the non-existence of any alternative.
>>2785158you're a retard, just because today we have one global empire centered around an hegemon (the US) doesnt mean its all imperialism can be. go read lenin
>>2785179>multipolarism is just a return to the old imperialism of the late 19th/early 20th century this is also wrong. at the time, you had a handful of developed nation that had massive colonial empires and fought each other for the control of those territories to control their market and raw resources. Multipolarity happen in a completely different context where most of the world is becoming developed enough, the gap between nations isnt that great, globalization happened, and global capitalism competition will become a lot greater, ending the imperial rent of the west imperial core, and pushing the falling rate of profit as the primary contradiction rather than the struggle against western imperialism for national sovereignty and developement.
>>2785127>nuclear holocaustwont happen
>>2785164>thinking a new country would occupy the hegemonic throne if the old hegemon fell US had an unique historic opportunity through first the WW2 destruction, the post war economic order and petrodollar, and then the fall of the soviet union. Such conditions that allowed an hegemon throne to exist in the first place wont happen again in the foreseeable future after the fall of US as hegemon
>>2785192Nah people have been peddling that sort of nonsense here for years. It's a consistent presence.
>>2785191>productive capacity is a huge deciding factor in modern wars, and burgers lack productive capacity because the bourgeoisie outsourced it.Kind of shoots Lenin's corpse full of holes if true, because his whole theory of imperialism assumes so much productive capacity it has to expand outward because of the decline in relative profitability at home. Makes sense with the entire Marx thesis that overproduction is one of the crises of capitalism.
>>2785188>"Multipolarity means no imperialism" is certainly a take.Kautsky's "super-imperialism" (which drove Lenin bananas) took a fair stab at predicting a world of co-operating powers. Of course the question is whether the planet can have export-oriented growth for everyone. Doesn't sound like it though.
>>2785203the US got hegemony at a bargain price through a unique opportunity, but that doesn't mean there won't be a new core and periphery after burger decline. that seems overly optimistic. the core already moved from england to america once already.
>>2785175>the world was multipolar in ww1it wasnt, the term didnt even exist, and when it is used now it not to describe the pre ww1 situation or a situation similar
>>2785206england is still part of the imperial core
>>2785206There would be a new core and periphery but it's unlikely that there would be a single state that dominates and enforces this system. There would most likely be 5 or 6 major imperialist powers jockeying for dominance.
>>2785202>On most Soviet submarines armed with nuclear torpedoes, only the captain and political officer were required to authorize a launch. On B-59, a third signature was needed because Vasili Arkhipov was also chief of staff of the brigade (the actual brigade commander was Captain First Rank Vasili Naumovich Agafonov). The three men were Captain Savitsky, Political Officer Ivan Maslennikov, and Executive Officer Arkhipov. An argument followed, with only Arkhipov opposing the launch.One vote. One. Vote. That's how close.
Stop huffing copium and put down the normalcy bias. The reason it hasn't already happened was a fluke, and you're
not entitled to it continuing to not happen.
>>2785207>it wasntHow do you figure that? There were numerous imperialist countries all with their own interests and not subordinated to any hegemonic power.
>the term didnt even existThat doesn't mean anything.
>>2785208>england is still part of the imperial coreit's not the hegemon anymore goalpost shifter
>>2785210>The reason it hasn't already happened was a flukethis is the actual copium
>>2785201>and pushing the falling rate of profit as the primary contradiction rather than the struggle against western imperialism for national sovereignty and developement.leftcoms won then
>>2785219>libtardismCommunism is the real democracy.
>>2785220i'm just riffin man, i know
>>2785207>it wasnt, the term didnt even existYeah because the idea of unipolarity only existed in the minds of crank nationalist/fascist. The U.S opportunistical took advantage of the post ww2 era and through a combo of geography and every other imperial power being depleted. Multipolority was the assumption. Now the anon that said unipolarity won't happen again prolly was right. But we dont fully control our material circumstances and we dont act as a unified species. It's not impossible through a series of unlikely and stupid events we find ourselves here again. I say this as a I guess best describe left-com third worldist. It's good the burger reich is collapsing, it gives breathing room to the working class and pits porky against each other in a multipolor struggle. That doesn't mean once the burger reich collapses that we dust our hands and say
>communism achievedNo the real struggle has just begun and become possible.
>>2785007>2nd picNah, Trump said Israel is forbidden from attacking in any capacity.
>>2785218Like all ultras the problem with leftcoms isn't that they're wrong, it's that they're ahead of themselves.
>>2785223phew, what a relief
>>2785227Yeah, Zionists are running a cope propaganda campaign to make it look like they weren't told to shut up
>>2785219>savedits the complete opposite, the deterrence nuclear weapons produce is a bigger issue than the nuclear holocaust nothingburger that wont happen
>>2785225someone here once said Marx was just born to early and I agree
>>2785193Other people do that but they don't update constantly.
>so we can actually see how these flight pattern are changingFunny thing is, they mostly don't even if you go back to the 2025 war.
The biggest change is the frequency/quantity of things being transported during the early phases of the war compared to now, but that's about it.
Same cargo planes, same routes, same destinations etc.
You know, Israel has 5 submarines, still. Do you think they have the balls to do another USS Liberty, and force US into full scale war?
>>2785231You people act like they won't.
>>2785220>Communism is the real democracy.cool it with the falsifier remarks
>>2785255No it just makes sense for them to withdraw from these contested towns during a ceasefire cause their positions in them are bad & exposed. If fighting restarts it's better to just start over.
>>2785263No, during a ceasefire, you keep the most forward bases because enemy can't attack you. That's the common occurence for every Westoid military, from USA in Vietnam to Ukraine in current conflict, and especially Israel.
Face it. Israel got cucked
>>2785264If you keep exposed forward offensive positions then as soon as fighting starts your prepared enemy will immediately groyp them.
>>2785265That's not how it works in practice
>>2785246whatever happened to that guy (pic). and also sargon and also molynew. so many of these guys that used to be fixtures have seemed to vanish.
sorry for the isg but just wonderin
This place is compromised
FUCK YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME
>>2784678So when Trump forbids Iran from doing things does that mean US controls Iran?
>>2785288Iran doesn't use cruise and ballistic missiles, though.
>>2785296doesn't use US* cruise and ballistic missiles.
>>2785256>And the dictatorship of the proletariat, i.e., the organization of the vanguard of the oppressed as the ruling class for the purpose of suppressing the oppressors, cannot result merely in an expansion of democracy. Simultaneously with an immense expansion of democracy, which for the first time becomes democracy for the poor, democracy for the people, and not democracy for the money-bags, the dictatorship of the proletariat imposes a series of restrictions on the freedom of the oppressors, the exploiters, the capitalistst. Lenin
>>2785301>it is constantly forgotten that the abolition of the state means also the abolition of democracy; that the withering away of the state means the withering away of democracy.t. Lenin
>>2784882Mods banned me for calling some retard a nutjob for claiming islamic freikorps are right to kill brown workers because they were obstructing traffic
Why are westards like this? You're not mentally nor physically qualified to pass judgment on me lil timmy
>>2785315just make sure to shill for the democrats from time to time and they will leave you alone
>>2784686Thank you anon for interpreting and posting these analyses btw, it's much appreciated
>>2785315>>2785317being an annoying faggot makes you a much easier target for getting banned. It's fun for you, fun for them. A game of cat and mouse.
>>2785341the issue wasn't this time because israel didn't comply:
>>2785255 Ok we can now let this general die because hormuz is open. Pack your bags and fuck off back to /pol/.
>>2785365nah. wait for the ceasefire to expire and for Israel-USA to sign a peace deal
>>2785396
how is iran imperialist
more like simperialist conflict
>>2785400
??????? what imperailist front?
more like limp erialist
>>2785396
Le interdengist front
fizzlebros…
>>2785403>more like simperialist conflictGovernments for the capeshits, by the capeshits, for the capeshits.
>>2785430How many times will Iran fall for it? Even killing their government and schoolgirls makes them go back to the talking table with their best friends in Washington
Currently two C-17s, two C-130s and one KC-135 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there was one
C-5, five C-17s, one C-130, one C-2 and one KC-135.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfe81,ae4af8,ae0154,ae07cf,ae1463,ae1462,ae49c5,ae07dc,ae4f13,ae07ea,ae0451,adfea8,ae0859,ae057cRQ-4 went to MENA and turned off its transponder while flying high over Israel.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae7814>>2785019this is pretty lucid analysis but it's nothing new to be honest, capitalism produces global interdependence and military technology is too developed for WW1 and WW2 style total war. like ok sure
>>2785478Imagine being the President of the world on your own site and not even cracking 5k likes
>>2785478the best opening – many are saying this
Give it to me straight: is it true that there's significant infighting between factions in Iranian leadership?
>>2785491I was told the navy was destroyed???
>>2785491The straight is out of the closet and more liberated than ever. It's massive and gorgeous.
Repeat after me, fizzleuyghas:
POOL'S CLOSED
$200 OIL
GLOBAL RECESSION
>>2785484no one's ever seen an opening like it
>>2785478So is he just saying the opposite of whatever the Iranians say?
>>2785534The joke is that he had to add "and/or rapidly opening".
Do we know if Iran still enforces the fee?
Reports of attacks against two more ships.
>>2785559Iran says that it does.
>>2785564IRGC doing its own thing lmao. Best case scenario is a limited nuclear exchange destroying global ecobomy.
>>2785572Opening status: And/Or rapidly happening
Are the Iranians calling Trump's bluff?
>>2785436have they gone beyond the us blockade though?
how come iran doesn't have any influence in pakistan? the country is 10-15% shia (third largest shia population in muslim world) and pakistani shias have been the most prolific pro-iran posters i've seen on social media besides along with iraqis. they REALLY seem to love iran and ayatollah khamenei sr.
is it because pakistan is a nuclear state and iran doesn't wanna upset them or the relatively neutral sunni ruling class there?
>>2785602Pakistan's military is the US proxy force whacking around the civilians when they get too uppity (see: Imran Khan).
The US military is preparing in coming days to board Iran‑linked oil tankers and seize commercial ships in international waters, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing US officials.
According to the report, the US is expanding its campaign to the entire globe and will target ships ferrying Iranian oil outside the Persian Gulf as well as vessels transporting weapons that could support the Islamic Republic.
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-military-prepares-to-board-iran-linked-ships-in-coming-days-officials-say-4dc0a718>>2785605Does this count as US desperation?
>>2785572Blockading a blockade of a blockade
>>2785647
>>2785649
This is iran thread. Retard.
>>2785672
iran?
>>2785687It's over for thirdies once the US military discovers rice and beans.
>>2785691
>What the ever loving fuck is that grey shit
Mammal tissue based nutrition slab
What did Tudeh Party do wrong why they deserved betrayal like that?
Love and peace will win
>>2785691
>What the ever loving fuck is that grey shit
Sir, slimy insoles are a delicacy. Be respectful.
>>2785705How many troops do they have
I will say tho the Iranian industrial military complex is really impressive. Globally unmatched. It's pretty scary.
>>2785710Wait, wait, wait. I just thought of something. If America is still taking money out of my paycheck to fund the navy and shit, and like they literally have no funding for food. Where tf is my money going?
The point of not funding the military is I get to keep that money. What is this bullshit.
>>2785698Either you get bread or you get meat. You can't have both.
>>2785365thank god(praise be to allah) that happening faggots will stop posting
>>2785717When you realize that a slice of bread in the US military costs 10$ you will have your answer.
What if Netanyahu presses the button that detonates the pager that's planted inside Trump's rectum though?
>>2785724I wonder if trust in the military among Americans is because they think it's a government funded an ran institution and not just several private defense companies with an infinite money spigot. It is a good question where all the money is going. The amount of embezzlement done by the Pentagon is absurd.
>>2785687yes, I'll have the anaemic carrots with a slice of Brown Sheet & Sludge
>>2785652that anon is the western media appreciator. he would post unironically western media, word by word, present it as undeniable truth, and never approach it critically.
I guess he's thinking that there are indeed 40 beheaded baked babies somewhere in zionistlan after October 7, 2023.
>>2785737>SludgeI thought it was some kinds of hamburger patty?
>>2785742oh, fuck, you might be right
that's even worse
shots fired in hormuz
war it is then
>>2785785hilarious, as every post with a frog image attached is
>>2785785millennial 'humor'
>>2785790>>2785785>>2785792It's unironically funny to me, how rotten is my brain?
>>2785798You are just underage
It's crazy how much we are dependent on narratives and media. Because no media can clearly explain what's going on, there's basically no discussion here. What is even going on???
>>2785861We should all get our info through ESP in order to own the newsmen.
>>2785861Welcome to the true reality, that Reality no longer exists.
The Israel Clause: The Sentence System A Has Wanted for 47 YearsWhat follows is the deepest layer Western analysts have not seen in the Islamabad negotiation. It is not about Israel. It is about a new form of transaction — and Israel is just the first, and most dramatic, case of that form.
In Iran’s 10-point plan there is something mentioned but not seriously analyzed: Iran’s wording contains no “destruction of Israel”. And the United States expects Iran, in the final agreement, to “abandon the threat to destroy Israel” in some form.
This looks like an ordinary diplomatic detail.
<It is not. It is the thing System A has wanted most for 47 years.Since the 1979 Iranian Revolution, “Death to Israel” has been the core narrative of the Iranian revolutionary regime. Camp David did not make it disappear. Oslo did not. The Abraham Accords did not. The real origin of this war was Israel’s fear that it might be annihilated. And Islamabad may be giving System A the sentence it has been unable to obtain for 47 years.
This sentence will be packaged by System A as a historic victory. Trump will post on Truth Social: “I MADE IRAN RECOGNIZE ISRAEL — NO PRESIDENT BEFORE ME COULD DO THIS.” Israel’s new government will call it the greatest accomplishment of 47 years of diplomacy.
>And System B does not care at all.Because to System B, Israel is not important. Israel is not a System B customer, not a supplier, not a chokepoint. Letting the IRGC modify a single line of narrative to give System A a victory is a completely free concession for System B.
And the IRGC loses an ideological commitment — but it has already lost its Supreme Leader, it is restructuring its entire internal power configuration, and it has the room to make this kind of adjustment. What it gets in exchange is real material payoff: Strait transit fees, partial sanctions relief, reconnection to the global economy. For the IRGC, this is exchanging a single sentence for the global economy.
So the form of the trade is: System A gets a narrative victory to mask all of its physical defeats. The IRGC gets actual material benefits. System B gets everything it wanted — the Strait keeps flowing, Iranian oil keeps exporting — and pays nothing. Israel gets the sentence it has been missing for 47 years.
But look closely at that last item. Israel gets only a sentence. It gets no physical security upgrade. And the world in which it gets this sentence is a world where System A can no longer deliver on its protection promises. It received the most precious gift inside a dying old order, and that gift has no meaning in the new order.
Israel looks like it won at Islamabad — but it won a victory that will become a joke within five years.
This is the pure form of this transaction — System A gets the language of victory, System B gets the physical result. Each party gets what it most wanted — and what each most wanted, conveniently, does not conflict.
Narrative victory in exchange for physical concession. This is the actual operating mechanism of the Islamabad negotiation.
https://substack.com/@chinarbitrageur/p-193907805 >>2785691
it looks like salmon skin without the meat
>>2785858More revolutionary than a billion western leftards like you.
At least he practices revolutionary defeatism and is anti imperialist wars.
>>2785890
>Democrat Marxists
>>2785890
Maybe if everyone thinks you're bad and evil regardless of their own ideology and vastly disparate belief systems then it is actually because you really are bad and evil rather than because they're all in a conspiracy? Just saying
>>2785906>read this communist authorcritical support to the richest capitalist
>>2785602>besides along with iraqiskek
But fr Bahraini Shais is where it's at with being cuckmenei cattle
It goes like Bahrainis > Pakistanis > Afghans/Lebanese > Iraqis > Azaris
>>2785918I wonder why bahraini shias would support iran when they're a literal slave caste under the sunni monarch
>>2785921But enough about south asian workers
>>2785925b-but tucker carlson, there is a hole in that fell for it again medal collection which means reactionary ideology is still heckin valid
>>2785921Shia population of a country being pro Iran almost scales paradoxically with how much Iran has influence in said country, with the exception of Azerbaijan that had Soviets bluck it from its backwards ways.
Experiencing the Iranian bourgeoisie thumb and its freikorps over you hits like a splash of cold water thrown in the face of docile religious workers, reminding them that no Islamic utopia exists here, only the same cruel liberalism crowned with ammama.
>>2785918yeah, you've posted your outdated-by-several-years-data before
>Israeli Border Police officers sent to jail for barbecuing on base over Shabbat
>Punishment of four medics for ‘harming religion and Judaism’ reportedly reduced from two weeks to one following uproar from parents and politiciansFour Border Police officers were sentenced to two weeks in military prison for “harming religion and Judaism” by barbecuing on base during Shabbat, according to Hebrew media.
The punishment was reportedly shortened to one week following an uproar from parents of the detained officers and from politicians.
The officers, who serve as combat medics at a training base in the West Bank settlement of Beit Horon, will be released on Monday and return to their positions, Channel 12 reported Thursday.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/border-police-officers-sent-to-jail-for-barbecuing-on-base-over-shabbat/Cool!
>>2785936Azerbaijan is barely shia, they're "cultural nondenominational muslims" (which largely means brainwashed by Turkey and gulfie preachers of course) with only a rural minority still practicing shia rituals. They would actually be better off under Iranian influence, azeris are literally just persians who were violently forced to speak a turkish language anyway. Khamenei was an azeri, iranian azeris don't see themselves as anything but iranians with an accent, it's only Azerbaijanian azeris that were handed a wholly constructed national identity. Another L for Lenin's national policy
>>2785925>Israel-firsters who were always on the ZOG camp to begin with*yawn*
>>2785937>incomprehensible copeUmmmmm not sure how that explains Hezb brutalising starving workers for the IMF but ok :/
>>2785942I know all of this, the reason Azaris in Azerbaijan proper don't identify with your religious identity is thanks to the USSR.
Very big resupply effort this night. Currently three C-17s are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were eighteen C-17s, two KC-135s, one RC-135 and one A-330.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae144fOsprey in the UAE. Not actually important just thought that it's cool.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae5a99>>2785947Yeah Azeris in Azerbaijan proper just identify with sunni gulfie shit that heavily contributed to them slaughtering armenian kaffirs and aligning with Turkey and NATO. Maybe if they were actual pro-iranian shias they would at least be more neutral
>>2785955No, you are. The azerbaijanian bourgeois is clearly aligned towards west-approved western gulfie isis islam. Also that sculpture was built in 1960, which according to you was well after le capitalist restoration in the USSR
>>2785947Azerbaijan is literally pro Israel bro
>>2785959>BUT MUH RELIGIOUS CAMPS DAAAA HOLY WARdeludu
>>2785960and?
>>2785961You don't see an issue with them being pro Israel?
Oil futures markets open in ~24 hours.
>>2785962Does that make them a religiously oriented society? Because otherwise no, it is irrelevant to the discussion.
>>2785945Spoiler Alert: your piece of shit Tucker did not condemn Venezuela action.
>>2785961>and?showed your true colors "iraqi"-kun. don't let your mask slip next time!
>Middle East Eye
>16 minutes ago
>Israel’s internal security agency has launched an investigation into a suspected espionage network involving military personnel, according to local media.
>Channel 7 reported that the Shin Bet and police are examining claims that soldiers may have worked with Iranian-linked actors.
>Investigators suspect that some personnel leaked information about sensitive military infrastructure, including bases, systems and weapons.
>Authorities also believe the suspects collected intelligence on senior government officials.
based
>>2785969You seem to watch/care about him more than I do.
>>2785979Having an attention span and a quantum of intelligence is a real burden, I know. Such a pain in the ass when people actually remember the past and learn from history, instead of being gullible fuckwits.
>>2785918>yeah man all those pro iran shia militias exist and the politics are all very pro iran because they really hate iranyou really believe this?
>>2785969Tucker made like 10 videos against invading Venezuela and condemning the war. Including interviewing people making being against the war the center of discussion
Rumors that US/Israel will attack before the ceasefire expiration.
>>2785992
why did she call it 'cream colored'
>>2785996just enough time before monday markets
>>2786000Not enough time for Sunday oil markets doe.
>>2785994Yeah. Before it actually happened.
>>2785602>how come iran doesn't have any influence in pakistan?have we forgotten that there were massive riots in Pakistan after the assassination of the Ayatollah, now?
Is Iran winning?
Sorry but I have not been able to pay attention because Gaddafi kept stealing my remote batteries as revenge for not offering him critical support in 2011. And to make matters worse Saddam Hussein lives in the cloud next to mine and he keeps telling me that a small sliver of my cloud belongs to him. Also I didn't get into heaving until like two weeks after I died because they kept saying that I committed suicide by not leaving my official residence when they "obviously" would have struck there so I had to go though all of that which sucked.
>>2786016and? you have proof iran directed those?
>>2786032Why would Iran need to direct those to happen? Pakistanis can protest by themselves
>>2786032the key word in that question is
any, how come iran doesn't have
any influence in pakistan?
The question itself wasn't asking or pondering for the type of influence.
attentions to this matter are expected to be thanked.
>>2786039kek he does talk like that
>>2786042>>2786039Yes, I talk like a fag, and my shit's all retarded.
>>2784131Epic bake leftychud.
Have a (you).
>>2786038yeah, well, i am the one who asked the question and i was asking about organized influence not random shias gathering to protest the us after it bombs iran
>>2786047>Country A (no nukes)>have influence in Country B (nukes)I don't think that ever happened.
>>2786047Iran does not posses that kind of influence.
it'd need air carriers, nukes, and the IMF headquarters near the presidential building to build up that kind of influence.
>>2786054>Here's how the West is winning, actually: "posts bullshit*Thanks, Langley. When's the NATO invasion of Yemen, btw?
>>2786056>Thanks, Langley. When's the NATO invasion of Yemen, btw?I too can't find anything Iran got out of this "ceasefire" deal. Glad we are on the same page.
>>2786059You're a knuckle-dragger that thinks futures is the same as spot price for oil, so nobody actually expects you to find anything, anywhere, nevermind understand it.
>>2786056>muh langleythe ceasefire was/is retarded for iran, why are you so childish
>>2786063Point us, o wise one, in the direction of all the things that Iran has gotten out of this "ceasefire".
>>2786063>You're a knuckle-draggerprojection, you are the one thats chimping out
>>2786074
>we
who the fuck is we
tell me what the video is and why i should watch it
say something that will convince me to click it
>>2786054What did the US and Israel get out of it?
>>2786063>You're a knuckle-dragger that thinks futures is the same as spot price for oil, so nobody actually expects you to find anything, anywhere, nevermind understand it.idk about the anon you're talking to but i'm actually retarded and had to look this up
does anyone know if the robot was wrong, and if so, why?
>>2786045nodding sagelyit says on your chart that you're fucked up
>>2786084Not watching it but that's an obscure Israeli cult figure named Yehuda HaKohen. It's a "Canaanist" fascist settler movement thing. It's similar to Duginism or nazbol stuff. He claims to be "post-Zionist" while also being mixed up with the settler movement and believes that Israel isn't a Western country but it's an anti-imperialist country and Hilltop Youth gangs represent the most "advanced" and "scientific" version of Jewish identity which will lead the way towards reconciliation with the Palestinians. Yeah. They will talk about the "American empire" and "bourgeois liberalism." He was apparently some kind of gangster in New York before moving to the West Bank.
Some of his cultists were trying to infiltrate that Infrared shit too btw. I can't find it now but it was awhile ago, some of these "VISION Movement" guys on Discord were mixed up with them. It was whack.
>>2786071they get to tariff all the arab cucks. no more uae chocolate gold karat labubus. no more 'somaliland' partition of africa because uae won't get the same cuckbux.
doesnt matter what happens, Iran bombing Dubai at the start of the war will always be peak
>>2786086>What did the US and Israel get out of it?All the things named in that post, which were made possible by the "ceasefire"
>>2786147I have been wondering how will the risk has spread among different actors and regions when the AI bubble goes and how it will unravel. Will this go global or will it be limited to US and Asia, or will it be just US tech stocks and Nasdaq melting into thin air? Who gets fucked the worst and who holds most debt that the AI companies have splurged on?
The worst hit will be the ones who have data centers in the works and those whose business is model training and inference right? Companies like OpenAI and those who hold their debt. Then there will be hardware manufacturers. They might will have to slice prices, while but things like flash memory can find other buyers eventually. Then there will be those who use AI, but they actually might benefit with oversupply unless the data-centers face armageddon and subscription prices go up.
>>2785890
I cannot get over how absolutely freakish she looks but I'm happy knowing that she probably feels the same about herself
>>2786066Sunk cost fallacy has tankkkoids still kissing iRAN's ass even after they fumbled a world historical opportunity to kill USrael with the ceasefire.
>>2786185sorry that they dont just want to use their country as a missile launching base being constantly bombed until it's totally destroyed, just to please your happening fetish.
Currently three C-17s, one C-130, two KC-135s and one 767 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were four C-17s, one C-130 and one C-2.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=e200dd>>2786188they have managed to give the US a bloody nose. what did you expect, iran to capture washington DC? they were always the underdog
This war is literally the first US adventure where the far-away adversary caused non-budgetary economic damage to America (admittedly though, to the rest of the world too).
>>2786188persians aren't arabs
>>2786189
>Milei has landed in Israel jej.
Iran could do something so cool rn
>>2786198Fine. Israel is more angry they didn't get to kill more lebanese, palestinians, arabs and persians
>>2786195who the fuck makes/reads this kind of slop
>>2786195This is only a suburban white middle class / upper class Yankee and Nordic country thing.
Europeans literally sailed all the way around Africa to get Indian spices.
Southern Europe grows and eats lots of of chillis. Eastern Euros cover everything in paprika.
Brits eat curries all the time, love a good vindaloo, and literally invented the phall.
Appalachian and Dixie people love buying hot sauces with names like nuclear buttblast fireball and flaming diarrhea death.
Just annoys me when people look at Utah soccer moms and generalise it as "Look, all white people are like this. Laugh at them."
>>2786214Relax cracker, it's just a joke
>>2786224power plant day
genocide day
>>2786226Those are my favourite! I'm a burger proletarian! Have solidarity with me!
>>2786233You think American proles are in charge of the war machine? You third worldists hitlerites can fuck right off. Or maybe you're glowies. No big difference tbh
>>2786224Lenin died at 53 yet this demented pedophile gets to keep breathing. It's sick.
>third worldists hitlerites
Americans.
>>2786242>I mean do you or don't you just want all first worlders to die and/or be impoverished?it's literally what you are doing to yourselves and in the typical Westoid narcissistic fashion you make yourself out to be the victims here of "third worldists".
>>2785982The unpopular ruling class installed by the occupation, the lumpenproletariat, petty bourgeois and most backwards of the town proletariat, tend to be Islamists and generally make up the base of the bourgeoisie and fill the ranks of its militias.
Why the question? Do you think otherwise?
>>2785970What?
If Iran had the balls to level Al-Arabya HQ to the ground I'd become IRGC e-jihadi for at least a week
>>2786168None of those are strategic gains or objectives though.
>>2786285Getting my Fell for it again awards ready for Cuckran.
>>2786214Dude, Euroids were rationing salt at the time. Spices were used in homeopathic quantities, hence the prices. I bet half the spices were rotting in warehouses because of rampant speculations
>>2786086people openly hate on israel now, so there's that
>>2786247>it's literally what you are doing to yourselvesexactly, but these people have created their own russiagate, in their minds the reason why they keep failing at stopping trump or some blue neolib that will fuck them in the ass too from getting elected every four years its the third worldist islamo-marxist zigger campists networks that keeps ruining muh optics or something
the accusations of "hitlerites" are specially ironic since the relationship organizations like DSA have with the zionazi DNC (the "left wing" of the nazoid american uniparty) in a way reproduce the relationship the SPD had with the NSDAP
>>2786285Unbelievable generational moron
>>2786320Trump's bushy BBC
>>2786317>people openly hate on israel now, so there's thatWait no, you guys already said that's what al-aqsa flood and western pro-Palestinian activism had achieved. And that was why Israel hadn't gotten away with exterminating Gaza and annexing the west bank for-free.
You can't play that card twice.
>>2786329>You can't play that card twice.Kill yourself you retarded debate addict
Is Trump a comrade who wants to destroy American imperialism?
>>2786311>Euroids were rationing salt at the timewrong. Salt wasn't that expensive. Unless you lived far away from coast or a salt mine. Ocean is literally the major source of salt today and was then. People just used a lot of it and not just for seasoning, but preserving pretty much everything.
Also only the spices that were imported were expensive, even before Columbian exchange. Any peasant could grow and go pick up basil, cilantro sage or mustard from their garden. But when you numbnuts mean spice you really mean black and chili peppers. And yes those were expensive, but "heat" wasn't unknown in Europe.
>>2786214Europeans plundered the whole world yet not a single molecule of spice made it to their food, tragic
>>2786176China will likely face something similar to the dot.com bubble popping. But they'll be able cut the wheat from the chaff and come out fine. The U.S is fucked though, we'll see great depression levels, western Europe will be even more fucked as they'll be still be recovering from the oil shock
>>2786242>impoverishedif you don't want first world middle class workers and small business owners to face proletarization you are objectively counter revolutionary and pro-status quo (imperialist)
>>2786334He's just both Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
>>2786320His clothes is like the CIA guy from that batman movie.
>>2786338Chill, cracka. We all know that traditional Euroid cuisine's maximum spiciness is onions (lol) and garlic. And salt was expensive as fuck
By the way, spices were used mainly for preserving foodstuffs. Spice for food taste is an acquired taste, and differs from culture to culture. Indians don't feel the heat because they are used to it, same way a Euroid will vomit his guts out from Yakut cuisine of eating meat raw and rotten
>>2786348DOCTOR PAVEL
I'M CIA
Follow the money:
Iran war is not what it seems on its surface.
City of London and its connections/partners aka remnants of the British empire. This war breaks their strangle hold via shipping on global markets. 30 trillion in the past decade creating a hidden global tax. Take note the British are the most upset about this, as they(City of London) are losing their biggest proxy(Iran & proxies) whom they use to massively hike shipping premiums through 2 of the worlds largest choke-points(Hormuz & Suez/Babel) IRONICALLY it was exposed in the Epstein files, with one email between Jeffrey Epstein and Steve Bannon, how they were conspiring to get rid of Jerome Powell in 218, and stop him from instituting SOFR a necessary step to create a competing US government backed insurance. This system is why America has fought countless foreign wars that provided no value to America and enriched war profiteers. Notice how a bunch of random individuals all at the same time were trying to spur division in America by blaming the Jews. Its as if they received marching orders from the top, that's exactly why this war is America first and when American officials were announcing goals for this war was very obtuse, as they don't want to lay out their game-plan before the public was ready.
Again I will iterate follow the money, who funds the IRGC? City of London leveraging legacy connections from the remnants of the British Empire. They then can create volatility that they profit freely from when ever they want, this is why Iran funds so many groups. They make their money from planned periods volatility, then the city of London utilizes infinite leverage to generate tons of profits for itself, especially because it knows when and where these conflicts globally will happen before they happen. Its a global blackmail scheme, that has been paid for by primarily Americans lives and the rest of the world in shipping prices for decades.
This exactly why America never gave notice to any Nato member that this war was going to happen, look at their behavior scrambling to close airspace as they reacted in real time. The speed of the war and defeat of Iran helped as they never had a chance to reset the game board. There's no way they would have taken these actions if they weren't complicit, the real question is do they have any more moves left on the board, we saw them activate controlled opposition trying to push the Israel narrative and divide the Right with bought out pod-casters.
>>2786366porkies family is big. the group of porkies losing money from this adventure dwarfs those porkies making money. they cannibalize themselves so the music plays just a little big longer. its a losing game
>>2786371
>save the west
Dugin is full of contradictions
The west is satanic by its nature (e.g. "Faustian", as Spengler puts it), so what is worth "saving" to the christian Dugin?
>>2786375>so what is worth "saving" to the christian Dugin?Save "le western culture and civilization" from it's satanic leadership?
>>2786381Isn't his whole spiel that the West is fundamentally evil from its inception because it was founded by water people (bad) and not dirt people (good)?
>>2786381western culture (e.g. technics) IS satanic.
thats the traditionalist understanding.
>>2786383Anglos are more northern than "western" in the continent, i suppose. But it was schmitt in Land and Sea (1942) who first made the distinction between the water and land people, with water being intrinsic to the commercial enterprise of capitalism. telluric (land people) dont feel the need to travel so far because they are rooted. Thus, russians are landed and good while anglos are unrooted (basically, english people invented capitalism and this is evil).
>>2786387woke is a better ally to traditionalism than liberalism
>>2786383Dugin got that shit from Schmitt, it's more anti anglo than anything.
Essentialy the monroe doctrice created the concept of west and the concept of west is inerenthly anti European.
>>2786388>despite deviations in the 18th and 20th centuries I wonder what 20th century deviation he could be referring to 🤔
>>2786393Trotskyism of course.
>>2786392>Essentialy the monroe doctrice created the concept of west and the concept of west is inerenthly anti European.That's not true though. The concept already effectively existed in the Middle Ages with the European understanding of "Christendom".
>>2786391>telluric (land people) dont feel the need to travel so far because they are rootedThen what are steppe nomads? They're neither rooted nor seafaring.
>>2786403aufhebung, lil gup. the steppe master-race.
>>2786375>Dugin is full of contradictionsI need to stress out, as I always do, that his garbage theory, the fourth political theory, is nonsense. he sells the idea that liberalism needs to be overthrow by an alliance of communists, fascists, and whatever thing not liberal.
he's insane and anti-historical.
>>2786412trump is liberal.
>>2786412>>2786426This is the Iran thread.
Oil futures markets open in ~6 hours.
>>2786430 who cares about the oil futures, the sp500 only goes up lol
>>2786329there's more than one person here m'lawd
And there's always room for *more* hate :-)
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