>it works in practice but it doesn't work in theory editionA thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.
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>>2689946 50 posts and 11 image replies omitted.>>2787473>Ooga booga we must live in primitive communes because le industrial society is oppressive and satanic welcome back Robert Owen
>>2787474He was correct, do you know alienated and abused any mammal has to be to forgo its reproductive instincts?
>>2787474The hell of capitalism is the firm, not whoever claims to run it
>>2787468The one child policy was a succes and it did what it needed to do.
>>2787530Force rural blue collar chinese men to get brides in the mail from Myanmar and Pakistan?
>>2786272I would have told them the american bourgeoisie eat people.
>>2787111Based Mandarin understander.
Does anyone have the video of the chinese guy living under a bridge in NYC shouting about how he was lied to that he could have a good life as a dishwasher?
>>2786931>an article thats just a random person ranting on the chinese equivalent of quora, not "an article" that examined the average condition thoroughly across the country
and yes a lot of factory work (especially exploiting rural migrant labor) can be pretty damn awful, thats standard capitalist dynamic at work
but on the other hand, these eventually get automated (or get outcompeted by automated factories and close), or there come a crackdown from the authorities, or they're forced to improve condition, or workers get truly fed up and come in the CEO office to sequester him and the authorities make an example out of him and send him to jail to calm everyone down
all statistics and metrics show that steadily things are improving, and work become higher quality and less harsh.
>>2787131all polls show that on the contrary, they massively support the current system and government, and your argument is retarded, none of the developed states are at replacement rate
>>2787415no, it was a smart policy with some bad side effects
>>2787825You can’t genuinely support a system where you can’t afford to have kids, also polls are literally always wrong
>>2787943
i think we are being raided by the sharty rn
where do I listen to the whole Chapo Trap House episode in OP?
Since they shut down their subreddit I can't get my fix and this being about CHOYNAH makes me wanna listen to it even more
Why isnt rest of 3rd world copying this massively succesful model?
<Sovereign Control: China never surrendered its financial sovereignty. The state retained absolute control over its banking system, credit creation, and currency, meaning foreign capital could not dictate domestic economic policy.
<Forced Technology Transfer: China refused to remain a permanent sweatshop. It forced Western corporations into joint ventures, demanding they hand over intellectual property and manufacturing know-how in exchange for access to Chinese labor and markets.
<Reinvestment over Extraction: Instead of letting local oligarchs and foreign corporations offshore the profits (as happens in Latin America and Africa), China aggressively funneled the capital generated by cheap exports into massive infrastructure projects, domestic supply chains, and research and development.
>>2792370Not everyone can survive without Western trade
>>2792412National cuckoldry sure is more prevalent amongst capitalist governments, but having your own industries and having a national industrial policy is not communist exclusive
>>2792370because to implement all of those policies requires the government to be led by an ideologically driven party with a long term vision for the country. most 3rd world countries aren't and in addition to that they:
- are very small and can't survive without trade with the USA
- are close enough to the USA that constant covert or overt interference by the USA is a legitimate concern
also in order to rise above developing country status countries need to maintain these policies for 30ish years. at the time when the PRC first implemented their version of those policies they had the protection of the USSR which they kept for good number of years, in addition to their advantageous geographic position (far away from the USA).
anyways, at the end of the day the objective of any developing nation in the world
is to implement the policies you've outlined but the path to that will be different for each one depending on their material conditions.
>>2792370>Why isnt rest of 3rd world copying this massively succesful model?Because China is a proletarian republic.
>>2792370Hard to do when your biggest manufacturing competitor is China. Those forced technology transfers will have to come from China to whom you have a massive trade deficit anyway
>>2793029If western "leftists" acutally walked the walk as much as they talked the talk we'd have global communism instead of terminally online cucktinism with dengoid characteristics.
>>2793140yes but they have to spend considerable effort shitting up threads randomly to seethe at china and anyone defending them, because they have to believe they're at least as bad as their own state, or else they cant feel superior and will have to admit the chinese path to socialism model is working and better in every aspect to their impossible ultra fantasies
>>2793185what's the chinese path to socialism model that western leftists should follow? The working conditions here
>>2786931 ?
>>2793194>The working conditions here they already have those in the west, just go into any place that use illegal migrant labor
I think the US with the IMEC is once again betting on the losing horse…There is no way India wont have huge structural, environmental, social and other problems that will bring disruptions to supply chains…
>>2794090based feminist china
>>2793384We kneel to slave labour with dengoid characteristics
>>2797732Literal brain drain
>Lieber was found guilty by a jury and convicted in December 2021 of making false statements to federal investigators about his ties to a Chinese state program to recruit overseas talent, and tax offenses related to payments he received from a Chinese university. He served two days in prison and six months under house arrest, and was fined $50,000 and ordered to pay $33,600 in restitution to the Internal Revenue Service. During the case, his defense said he was suffering from an incurable lymphoma, which was in remission, and he was fighting for his life.
>Three years after he was sentenced, Reuters has learned that Lieber is now overseeing China’s state-funded i-BRAIN, or the Institute for Brain Research, Advanced Interfaces and Neurotechnologies, with access to dedicated nanofabrication equipment and primate research infrastructure unavailable to him at Harvard. The lab is an arm of the Shenzhen Medical Academy of Research and Translation, or SMART.So, he either was convicted rightfully (in a sense that he indeed was playing for the Chinese side), or he decided to take revenge by switching to Chinese side. Either case it's amazing news, yeah?
>>2797744>“China has weaponized against us our own openness and our own efforts for innovation,” said Glenn Gerstell, a nonresident senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and former general counsel of the U.S. National Security Agency from 2015 to 2020. “They’ve flipped that and turned it around against us, and they’re taking advantage of it.”Yeah dude, you've convicted a person for foreign ties, that's how open you are
>>2793029you are eternally online, which is to say a silly person
>>2797732anti-paywall (will be up in a few mins)
https://archive.ph/fVd2y >>2797893Changing the way things are calculated won't will industries into existance, buddy. And we don't even talk about how GDP is a false metric nobody's in charge of anything is using in practice
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