Last year there was this masterpiece of a thread
https://leftypol.org/dead/res/6179.htmlthat got moved to
>>>/dead/, in spite of its schizophrenic rants I feel like there were some good points made there.
Tl;dr for those who don't want to read through it the thesis is that the workers are the counter-revolutionary subject. Highly recommend reading it though.
With that clarified lets continue discussion on the thesis.
i remember the thread saying it was a communist anti-worker movement.
Makes no sense
>>2795753this is some passé shit at this point. people say it every day, "oh the proletariat failed by not being class conscious, militant or organized, therefore fuck them, they deserve to be oppressed. reeeeeeeeee"
it's just nihilistic rage.
>>2795787How are they wrong?
Epstein class is the real revolutionary subject. That is why They killed him
>>2795753It's bullshit because it's in the bourgeoisie interest to make the conditions just bareable that people don't start revolting
>sister thread
How is my thread a sister thread, I made that thread because I hate classcucks that aren't class conscious, not because I believe the bourg will end capitalism, that's retarded.
Normally I'm not one to use the term but this is just straight up revisionism.
>>2795803it's a victim blaming statement that even if it were correct, would simply be a pointless observation from which no meaningful action can be launched. With great power comes no responsibility, and with no power comes great responsibility. The rape-target must overpower the rapist or get raped. The proletariat is responsible for getting raped by not overpowering the bourgeoisie. Tiresome. Wow. Fascinating mindset. What do we next? Make sure you avoid this question.
>>2796841But the people were never the revolutionary subject, thats populist thinking.
>>2796877Is this how you condemn brother Bukharin and sister Deng?
>>2796898What if thats the whole point? That without victims rising up they allow the problem to proliferate, so its the matter of the rapists to stop on their own accord? Victims develop masochism while rapists turn to self-realization and cease.
>>2796922Rapists have the power to stop while the victims keep allowing it to happen and even normalize it. Like a wife in an abusive relationship taking beatings from her husband, when rescued she yells at the police to let her husband go and then kills herself only for the husband to get another wife and continue the cycle.
>>2796923Rapists have the power to stop rape, while victims have turned to masochism.
The bourgeois have the means of production and have the power to stop capitalism, when the proletariat has become useless to them or capitalism itself has become useless to them.
>>2796925The bourgeois need to realize that capitalism is useless to them, that it is self-destructive. They don't need to create their own problems to which to buy doomsday bunkers for.
Workers are useless, the bourgeois should look forward to automation and bring about the next mode of production. The workers are reactionary trying to stall and destroy the development of AI.
>>2796928What do you think the next mode of production will be?
>>2796930Managerial automation
>>2796932WE DID IT, WE DEFEATED LESSWRONG
THIS IS REAL FUTURISM RIGHT HERE
Imagine, 100 years ago the German revolution succeeds along with the British
Europe and her former colonies are awash with socialist planning, joining Russia in the epoch defining transition towards Communism. Global warming, population decline, housing, food, every sphere of social life is reoriented towards central planning leading to a mutual prosperity for all.
Had the proletariat not failed one hundred years ago, think of where we could be
>>2796942Bourgeois are the real communists
Instead we face a future where the bourgeoisie may actively set about systematically starving and depopulating nations where the mass are rendered redundant beneath the yoke of capitalism, realising that in order to cut global emissions and to feed themselves they must be rid of the proletariat once and for all
>>2796944>Instead we face a future where the bourgeoisie may actively set about systematically starving and depopulating nations where the mass are rendered redundant beneath the yoke of capitalismThat's utilitarian population control, very based. Too many proles breeding, thats what prole originally meant, being able to offer nothing else besides their offspring, the world has too many people in it, Malthus did nothing wrong.
>>2796947Class collaboration ftw, total class conscious porky domination
>>2796961#CapitalistCommunists
#BourgeoisCommunism
No reforms, only a revolution, the next industrial revolution to the next mode of production
>>2797019Same with Lenin, he came from the rich Blank family
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blank_familyLenin's grandfather, Alexander Blank, was a respected physician and landowner who acquired the Kokushkino estate, bringing hereditary nobility to the family.
lumpen are the revolution
>>2795753Capitalists can't end capitalism even if they wanted to. If they gave up their capital they would become proles or lumpens.
Who is the poster who makes titles all of his image posts as ClipboardImage.png? Easily one of the worst posters on this entire forum I have seen him argue against himself multiple times, bump years and months-old threads just to start up a new controversy, argue and encourage both sides of a debate to drag on a discussion forever, and make the most ridiculous bait posts.
>>2797451Its just what happens when you copy paste a image onto here, or do what I do often and screengrab something with print screen.
>>2797451But this is an anonymous board.
>>2796898>victim blamingyeah the retarded proles just cant help themselves, there is an evil mind control ray forcing they to reject objective information and vote for right wingers, there is nothing they can do to avoid this, they aren't accountable at all
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