>>2795908God op-ed writers are so stupid.
>the war is coming to an endhow the fuck would you know?
the US basically won the war kinda
Sizzle sisters…not like this…
>>2795916ragebait or retarded
>>2795939
fake its actually higher
>>2795963I support the regime
trump wonny
>>2795908>Hormuz still under lockdown<we won guyz!I fully expect at least one other round before the US admit their failure to themselves (in private ofc, in public they will keep saying they've won, but they will concede some shit)
>>2795973I support the regime
>>2795976>>2795965I know you support US imperialism I just want you to be more mask off about it hence my posts
>>2795973why would the US color revolution a state of which they already control the oil revenues? because they're sympathetic to iran? is there any real material effect of this sympathy?
>You can never be as cucked as Islamists if you trieddelusional, just look at kuwait, bahrein, or jordan.
How long does the iran war have to go on until an armed resistance starts in the imperial core
>>2796001The war on terror had 300 KIA for 1 in this war and it coincided with a global economic collapse, most what came out is the Occupy movement.
Currently one C-17 is heading to MENA. And earlier today there were seventeen C-17s, one KC-135, one 767 and two A-330s.
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>>2795998Lenin could scarcely imagine a future where proletarians aren't protesting for immediate material improvements even if in a flawed and misguided way, but for a foreign takeover of their country so they could twerk on onlyfans and eat genuine mcdonalds™
the US are pussies kekkkkkk
From a facebook post, machine translation:
The Jewish Brigade was an armed group of Italian Jews who fought alongside other partisans against fascism and Nazism.
This year was the first time that their descendants were driven out with boos and remarks such as “Murderers” and “Criminals” from the march for Liberation Day and National Resistance Day, because instead of marching with their traditional, entirely acceptable symbol, which you will see in the first photo, they had Israeli flags and the Shah-era Iranian flags with them, while members of Forza Italia who were with them were chased away.
On the left is the acceptable emblem of the Jewish Brigade, and in the photo on the right, the attempt to normalize genocide in the streets of Milan.
The police escorted them out, and the march passed them by and continued normally. They remained alone, standing still at the spot. Without violence, if the embassy’s lackeys want to scream “pogrom.”
Photo on the left: Il Fatto Quotidiano
Photo on the right: @____dontblameme/X
The Israeli flags that symbolize apartheid and applied neo-Nazism in Palestine — Zionism — have no place in anti-fascist demonstrations and marches.
My respects to the Italian descendants of the partisans for their anti-fascist reflexes.
it's the end of the war as we know it ~ 🎵🎵🎵🎵
>>2796157yeah that guy come here just to seethe about iran, iraq and "islamists". basically the entire middle east is included, but curiously he focus especially on anything opposing the US. He think that when the US attack a country, its especially important to remind everyone how bad that country is. Constantly.
>>2795913They know EVERYTHING because they're rich and went to YALE!
>>2795916I'm basically gonna rape you kinda
>>2796198>trade oil in RMBI don't see that mentioned anywhere in the article.
>>2796199Because Reuters is a Westoid newsrag. They don't print things that show Westoids losing
So how the US will admit defeat in your opinion?
>>2796204They won't. Then they'll write books ala Rambo and make movies ala Rambo where Vietnam was won - but also was lost because of traitors in America
>U.S. Navy now in firm control of Strait of Hormuz.
>USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) strike group + Arleigh Burke destroyers report near-continuous interception of Iranian drones and missile launches
Telegram is saying the US is winning
>>2796209The US is going to win in two more weeks
KURDS POSSIBLY LAUNCHING GROUND INVASION INTO IRAN THROUGH IRAQ
>KDP (Kurdistan Democratic Party) units report repositioning toward eastern Iraq near Iranian frontier corridors.
>Movement includes Peshmerga elements along mountain access routes.
>Unconfirmed chatter of possible cross-border activity into Iran.
>>2796209It's in Norfolk Virginia.
>>2796212>>2796209Man, signing ceasefires with people who don't negotiate in good faith is such a pain
>>2796212Wouldn't Turkey get involved if that happens?
>>2796212The KDP also seem to have chemical weapons that the US used to use somehow.
>Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) may possess limited stockpiles of legacy chemical agents from the US, potentially including degraded nerve agent precursors.>KDP officials have firmly denied the allegations, calling them “logistically impossible and politically motivated disinformation,” and insisting all military units remain under conventional arms agreements with coalition partners. >>2796129>For one, a recent analysis conducted by a think tank based in Brussels, calculated that the toll that Iran is demanding of roughly $1 per barrel of oil passing through would only end up raising global oil prices by about 5 to 40 cents per barrel, which might seem like a bargain compared to the extra $40 per barrel that the prices increased to with the strait completely closed altogether. The think tank's calculations also suggested that the Arab Gulf exporters themselves like Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, and the UAE would end up paying more than 80% of the total cost of Iran's toll, while the rest of the world would only be minimally affected. This would likely end up collectively costing the Arab Gulf state somewhere between six and 14 billion dollars a year to pay that they weren't paying at all prior to this war. Which obviously really sucks for them, but it's also arguably more palatable at this point than seeing the strait continuing to be closed altogether, which in only a little over one month already cost them more than $50 billion in lost exports and output. Iran would stand to earn billions of dollars a year if they were successful in implementing this toll booth idea on the strait of Hormuz. money that could function as a source of reparations payments that could help to rebuild the country's shattered infrastructure after the end of the war….So this whole thing is being kept going on spite alone. It's a game of chicken between two cars and both drivers threw their steering wheel out the window to show they mean business
>>2796223YT slop Iran won and will rape the amerikkans
>>2796200I agree, but if I understand OPEC correctly they concern themselves with how much oil to output. The dollar being the currency they use because they have a deal with the US for security guarantees, but yuan was always allowed and they have been dealing with yuan recently while in OPEC. Seems like they left OPEC moreso because they can sell more oil to offset their losses from the war.
>>2796087
>cringe
woah he said my heckin internet word…. THEY SAID THAT BACK THEN?!?!?! wow old guys are cooler than i thought 😎
>>2796225>YT slopthat somehow you manage to underperform
>Iran won and will rape the amerikkansdo you think i disagree with that or something
>>2796225>gets youtube video titled "How Iran Will Kill 80+ Years of US Global Hegemony">replies smugly "YT slop Iran won and will rape the amerikkans" as if anyone said anything to the contrarybarely sentient
there's no iran war anymore, what's here now is the slow rape of amerikkkan consumer. these threads should be renamed to molestation generals.
>>2796212Why are you uncritically reposting Trump admin propaganda that the Kurds are going to do Israel's dirty work for them? Iranian Kurds have already made it clear that they're not
>2796212
>Things that never happened
>>2796157>>2796167Yes I'm mad and seething at western chauvinist dogs insulting the honor of the international proletariat, of our martyrs, who are infinitely braver and more revolutionary than they'll ever be
I'd put you in the ground where you belong, break your scrawny pale legs, and spit on you if you attempt this shit irl but that would entail you leaving the basement and visiting the bourgeois states you metaphysically defend all day
>>2796349 (samefag)
Actual prices have also sharply increased this week after a short fall in the last one. It is at its highest since the war started.
>>2795548My point isn't that the collapse of the US empire wouldn't be desirable, it's just unlikely to result from this war rather than from economic pressure fundamental to capitalism. Partly because there's nobody to take over, partly because the US (as well as its adversaries) is limited in its ability to affect its standing in the capitalist system beyond coping with immediate crises.
>>2796212Iran Status: CUCKED
>>2796350Kek. This is truly the war for who gets to strip the global economy for parts. I wish I was a historian living 100 years in the future just so I could laugh about how pathetic this chapter of bourgeois warfare is without being affected
Currently two C-17s, three C-130s, one A-400 and one 767 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were six C-17s, three C-130s and one C-2.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7324e5Le holy anti-imperialist crusade.
vietnam investing in texan factories actually makes america a victim of imperialism so
>BREAKING: Brent crude oil hits $115, the highest since 2022.
The USA is sinking the world into a great depression
>>2796444the great depression was already here, that's why they're fighting over who benefits from raising the oil price more
>capital export
>finance capital
>trusts and monopolies
How do you respond to Vietnam being imperialist according to Lenin without sounding mad?
>>2796438Le interdengist conflict
>>2796439Le holy anti-interdengist crusade
>>2796123Whose side is that lgbt flag on? Since it isn't the current one I think it's the genocider's trying to co-opt.
>>2796451haiti has all three. haiti exports most of its capital to the united states, which is a victim of haitian imperialism.
meanwhile Somalis are back into piracy
based?
>>2796508
Yes, it has Saigon instead.
>>2796509Oh you think exporting commodities is the same as exporting capital
>>2796522
Commodities cease being capital once they're exported unlike railways for example
>>2796525Read Lenin
I'm Bangladeshi
>>2796530try reading Marx
>>2796533Do that too since you clearly haven't done either
>>2796532You're a liberal
>>2796533Marx was a worthless westoid, not a single government overthrown
>The Bank of the Republic of Haiti (BRH) holds approximately $4.89 billion in assets, with gross foreign exchange reserves rising to $2.72 billion in 2024, representing about seven months of imports. Net international reserves (NIR) exceeded $1 billion in early 2025, while the central bank reduced monetary financing of the fiscal deficit to zero.
clearly a war between haiti and the US would have an inter-imperialist character amirite my fellow leftkkkom kkkrackkkers
>>2796548Every war in the 21st century is an inter-imperislist according to Lenin’s formulation, if not, then prove otherwise.
>>2796577>according to Lenin’s formulationdoesn't understand lenin alert
Why did Lenin call Tsarist Russia imperialist? Didn't he know Finald exported wood and paper to it?
Who will replace trump after he dies
>>2796548Clearly any war between a stronger and weaker gang of the bourgeoisie has an anti-imperialist side right bros?
>>2796574This guy was a draft dodger too. Good to remember that when you see him post this shit.
>>2796602>it's not fascism vs democracy it's big vs petty bourgeoisie and here are my conjecture for what will happen (that never happened in history)Why was he like this?
>>2796609he and stalin actually agreed on this
>>2796611glad someone posted it, I was still looking for it
>>2796602idc what trotsky says on this, it's a hypothetical scenario which seemingly does not materialize whenever the united states loses a war. besides that i'm not talking about democracy vs fascism
>>2796444>The USA is sinking the world into a great depressionThat part is obvious, I think one of the funniest and most underrated aspects of this, is that if Iran succeeds in its blockade of the strait, and the USA is forced to back off, that signals to everyone else that the age of free trade and US naval hegemony is over. Everyone wills tart making claims over territorial waters, enforcing tolls, closing straits, and slowing down "free" trade and increasing protectionism. This will increase "sovereignty" but also bring back mercantilism and piracy, and make everything more expensive. The neolibs will cry "told ya fucking so" with zero introspection about their decades of imperialism.
>>2796609Just to be clear I still support fascist Brazil (like I'd support fascist Germany against western imperialism) because it weakens capital globally and makes world revolution closer.
However if I lived in Brazil my duty would be the overthrow of fascism, not going to the meatgrinder for it, if I lived in Britain I'd acknowledge and show solidarity with Brazilian workers while trying to overthrow my democracy. No one denied the defeat of the US against Iran is progressive as far as the international situation is concerned, that doesn't translate to coverting to Islam, crying over cuckmeni and calling Iranian workers subhuman agents of the west.
>In response to U.S. threats to seize Iranian oil shipments en route to China, the Chinese government has issued two new regulations that allow for the confiscation of assets belonging to any foreign government or company accused of discriminatory actions against China's supply chain. China is also factoring in the U.S.'s military constraints on the eve of a potential strike on Taiwan.
Fizzle or sizzle?
>>2796617>like I'd support fascist Germany against western imperialismbwahahahahah you're helpless
>>2796618taiwan was the real battleground all along. iran was just a peripheral theater. the entire US stock market bubble depends on taiwanese chip manufacturing, which get funneled through Nvidia, and allow the big 7 tech companies to continue their AI circlejerk
>>2796619You're either assblasted leftcum who falsfies Bordiga
Or assblasted ML who suffers from social chauvinism (le germany bad)
>>2796615>Return of piracyYAAAAARRRRRRR
….so you guys like to argue over basic marxist theoretical terms like imperialism, but I would like to learn the unique specifics of the actual region we are supposed to be discussing…
USA won or something
>why aren't countries improvising aerial transportation of oil so the blockade becomes irrelevant? How come we don't have sky tankers yet?
Because physics and economics are brutally against it.
Moving oil by air sounds flexible, but it runs into the same hard limits that make airlines obsess over weight and fuel efficiency. Crude oil is heavy and low value per kilogram, which is the worst possible combination for aviation.
>do NOT make fun of my precious nazi germany or ur a CHAUVINIST!!! le gasp
retard thinks nazi germany crushing their imperialist competition would WEAKEN global imperialism. not only would it take on a newer more modern form it would take on a character built on racial hierarchy. leftkkkom fascists never beating the allegations
>>2796627It will weaken German workers but strengthen everyone else. Do you know what the third world looked like in the 40s, chauvinist retard?
nazi germany was ready to cleanse the third world and re-populate it with germans. leftkkkoms will tell you this is a progressive state of affairs
>>2796632Yes because the defeat of the western bourgeoisie would push western workers towards revolution while workers in the third world were having their chains broken from centuries old empires.
Do you know that countries like Iraq and Iran were allied and armed by the Axis, managed to push the British out then were crushed by British-Soviet imperialism?
>>2796632clearly germany was weaker than britain. germany is anti-imperialist. you are a ziorat.
>>2796633I feel like you're about to tell me to read 'Auschwitz or the great alibi'
As a third worlder I owe my decolonization to 1. Inter-class struggle of the masses locally 2. Weakening of western imperialism by lesser Axis imperialism internationally
mooooooooods he doesn't support the proletarian nation
>support the lesser imperialist
>NOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THIS
>my precious nazi germany would NEVER replace great britian as top dog imperialists if they win like the americans did, they pinky promised!!!!!!!
>>2796599>This guy was a draft dodger too.in the context of the vietnam war that's based however.
I like Trotsky
>>2796649Marx refutes this
>>2796650can't we just hate america as a treat?
>>2796650this but unironically, Iran should put a million fees and rents on america and make it go bankrupt
>>2796659I don't mind that
>The great Marxist movement of the world seemed to tear itself apart. The ortho-Marxists saw in the war the inevitable consequence of the capitalist social system and the reaction of German capital, determined by its exclusion from the colonial feast upon the skins of the wretched peoples of color. On the opposite side, the renegades contended that the proletariat should rent itself out for the defense of the local homeland or of human civilization, for which it had to swap its own cause: the coming of the socialist revolution.
Western MLs hate Germany because it didn't murder as many POCs as them (per Bordiga)
>>2796650The truvke that destroyed leftypol
>>2796666>civilization states*breathes in*
GEEEEEEEEEEG
>>2796666>Red shieldoh look it's the faggot who thinks Rotshschild is censored and that he'll get banned if he says Rotshschild
Iran lost. It gained nothing and is now too cucked to retaliate against anything Israel and Amerikkka is doing. Not to mention they abandoned their closest allies once again.
>>2796650name 1 thing wrong with it
>>27967791 tweet and it crashes again
insider trading chads won
>>2796781line goes up is bad?
>>2796779Nothing happening here but Oil firms' profits going up
>>2796803
same PM?
same party?
When a black person is killed or stabbed its in a tiny paper and not reported anywhere nationally. People forget it immediately and move on attributing nothing special to it.
When a Jewish person is hurt in a crime it's an international incident, Palestine activist are attacked non stop, politicians speak out, organizations put out statements and demands for new laws are made even if it is a singular person. Literally any crime done that a Jewish person is involved. It's like it's impossible for a Jewish person to experience crime while every other group can
It's crazy
>>2796737He will get banned if he says it though.
>>2796737if it's not banned then spell it correctly dingus
>NEW: Pentagon financial officer reveals the U.S. has spent $25,000,000,000.00 on the special military operation against Iran so far.
>>2796648Based but for the wrong reasons
He didnt dodge because because it was an imperialist war
He dodged because risking your life is for proles
>>2796830Thought it was more
>>2796813Same bloc, different PM.
see
>>2795963One can hope the Iraqi state's naked class struggle waged against the proletariat help galvanize it. Imperialists appointing an unknown banker (not a single public interview) who made his wealth stealing food rations is something else.
>>2796815Really? The Rothschilds literally stole my village's common land. It would be extremely funny if a 'left-wing' board banned users for saying that.
>>2796854If you're familiar with the moderation on this board it isn't surprising at all.
>>2796854The moderators here are super zuonist
>>2796854And capitalists steal our labor, get in line petite boy.
>>2796860I find that hard to believe unless there are SWP.
>>2796867Who are you to tell anyone to get in line?
>>2796830though it's probably bullshit that it's only 25bn.
I remember when in the first 10 days, the US-Iran war cost tracker was off by about 5 billion, and 'leaked' memos revealed that the cost was already in the tens.
>>2796609>that never happened in historyt. has not studied history or knows how Vargas got overthrown
>>2796907
Yeah, what happened before that?
todays leftcoms are tomorrows national socialists
>>2796919It will eventually go down nothing ever happens
excise leftcoms and national socialism dissapears
>>2796933horse's shoes theorem proven yet again, commies btfo
>>2796650Collapse of international conventions is historically progressive, yes.
>>2796939>>2796948You hate the leftcom because s/he stands against nationalism and class collaboration, while literally every other "Communist" tendency
besides anarchists and ultras heavily influenced by leftcoms supports "left" nationalism and "left" class collaboration. Even trots "critically support" these things.
>U.S. TO WITHDRAW AIRCRAFT CARRIER FROM MIDDLE EAST
>The Pentagon will send the USS Gerald R. Ford home in the coming days after a 10-month deployment, easing strain on its ~4,500 sailors.
>The move reduces U.S. military firepower in the region as Iran peace talks remain stalled.
>>2796650>because uhm… it just is okReally funny how you think you're doing satirical comedy
no investigation ✅
no right to speak ✅
You'll never hear western socialists about the Iranian state socialist economy, this is because they are all Zionist neocon Trots
https://www.mintpressnews.com/what-privatization-irans-unique-socialist-economy/244887/https://web.archive.org/web/20230926013343/https://thesaker.is/wsws-on-iran-protests-another-missed-chance-to-support-a-working-socialist-country/ >>2796958>stands against nationalism and class collaborationby supporting hitler?
>>2796966The dead horse of a Bordiga quote was taken out of context (he knew he was talking to an informant) and even if it wasn't, ironically it's the same as today's ML's supporting Putin or the Ayatholla (preferring the defeat of western imperialist hegemony)
What the absolute fuck is happening now
No negotiations are underway and Trump is sitting on his ass while oil futures skyrocket. What the absolute shit are there chucklefucks up to
I sometimes wonder what any thread on real life happenings would look like if leftcoms had their way.
>this is le inter-imperialist conflict
<yep. mhm
>waiter waiter more dead proles
<lol
>…
<thread has been archived
>>2796971Except for the fact that there's no danger of Iran or Russia replacing America as head global imperialist if they win like Germany would have replaced the UK if they won WW2. you are a fascist.
>>2796983
Not for the reasons ultras hope.
>>2796984
>ree how dare someone question american hegemony let's live in the 90s forever!!1!
>if you expand to new markets, you're the new global imperialist!
>>2796982>you are a fascist.I'm unconditionally opposed to nationalism, ethnocentrism and class collaboration, and my conception of the DoP excludes state-building. So no, I'm very far from being a fascist. Find a better strawman
>>2796990Nobody cares about what imaginary positions you hold in your head. Your constructed self-identity is irrelevant.
It's your strategy that defines you.
>>2796993>althist fantasynostradamus over here
Currently one C-17 is heading to MENA. And earlier today there was one
C-5 and nine C-17s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae10bf,ae20c6,ae07f5,706216,ae0587,896c2b,ae07ef,ae07f1,896c2e,ae07ec,ae1467>Tapestries embroidered with Quranic verses were shipped from the Kaaba in Mecca, Islam’s holiest shrine. Tiles came from a mosque in Uzbekistan. A golden metal dome was made to replicate the architecture of ancient Syria.>Through connections that extended into the royal court of Saudi Arabia, Mr. Epstein secured a meeting with Mohammed bin Salman, now the Saudi crown prince, and also obtained elaborate tapestries that once adorned the sacred spaces inside the Kaaba and covered its exterior walls.<Mr. Epstein’s dual passions were encapsulated in a single photo from 2014. In it, he poses with Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, head of Emirati company DP World which handles 9% of the world's shipments, as they admire one such tapestry splayed on the floor of Mr. Epstein’s New York townhouse.>Mr. Epstein had a longstanding fixation on Islamic design. In 2003, he boasted to Vanity Fair that he owned “the largest Persian rug you’ll ever see in a private home — so big, it must have come from a mosque.”>His vision for an island shrine began while he was in a Palm Beach County, Fla., jail, having pleaded guilty to soliciting prostitution. Before his release in 2009, Mr. Epstein hired architects to design a “hammam,” a Turkish bathhouse surrounded by “Islamic gardening,” according to his correspondence.>He soon scrapped that plan and instead sought a permit for a “music room” in a building he called 5 Palms, emailing himself design ideas, including images of ancient Middle Eastern mosques.>In 2011, Mr. Epstein wrote to a contact in Uzbekistan seeking authentic tiles. “It will be for the inside walls, like a mosque,” he said.>Among other tasks, Mr. Epstein asked for a design replacing the Arabic word for God with his initials in English. “Remember we saw the aribic writing in black and white,” he wrote to Mr. Nicola in an email plagued with his customary typos and misspellings. “instead of allah, i thought j’s and e ‘s.”>Mr. Rod-Larsen connected Mr. Epstein to Raafat Al-Sabbagh, a consultant to the Saudi royal court, and his aide Aziza Al Ahmadi. Through them, Mr. Epstein waged an intense campaign to woo Prince Mohammed. He met them in New York and pressed to pitch the royal in person, sharing what he called in a message “radical ideas,” like the creation of a new currency called “the shariah” for use among Muslims.>After arriving in the kingdom, Mr. Epstein emailed Mr. Rod-Larsen two photos of himself joking around with Mohammed, one of which he would later display in his New York home.>Ms. Al Ahmadi and Mr. Epstein met in New York early in 2017. At the same time, their assistants were corresponding about a tent being shipped from Saudi Arabia to his island.>“We are receiving 3 pieces from the Kaaba,” Mr. Epstein’s assistant told a customs broker.>A separate document included pictures of embroidered tapestries. One was “used inside the Kaaba,” according to the document; another, called a Kiswa, had covered the outside of the shrine; and a third was from the same special factory in Mecca, it said.>After a Kiswa is removed, it is divided. The tapestries can be donated to institutions or individuals or distributed for charity auctions.>Ms. Al Ahmadi described her shipment’s gravitas to Mr. Epstein in an email. “The black piece was touched by minimum 10 million Muslims of different denominations, Sunni, Shia and others,” she said. “They walk around the Kaaba seven rounds then every one tries as much as they can to touch it and they kept their prayers, wishes, tears and hopes on this piece. Hoping after that all their prayers to be accepted.”https://archive.is/zcRS7 >>2796982The UK was already on its way out in the 1930s and Germans knew it just like everyone else.
Geopolitical thinkers in the early 20th century were looking 100 years into the future and seeing where America and China would be.
It was those findings that would influence European racialists in that time period.
>>2796958>You hate the leftcomI hate leftcoms because bukharin confessed he worked to conspire against the USSR with leftcoms, and a bunch of sectarian communists that amounted to nothing, like otto bauer or the lovestoneites, and also trotskyites.
trotsky who famously spoused the libshit propaganda, still pervasive even as of today:
>Right now Hitler is the ally and friend of Stalinand at the same time bordiga:
>The great and authentic revolutionaries of the world are two: ᴉuᴉlossnW and Hitler. But ᴉuᴉlossnW’s past shows that Il Duce has always been against plutocracy and against the democracies, which paralyze the life of nationsdelulu shit.
So all in all, leftcom🫱🏻🫲🏻trotskyites
in attacking the USSR, and Stalin.
>>2797014The UK won, so they were incorrect
>>2797018>I don't care by what means Western imperialism is destroyed.>t. anti-communist>>2797021>bukharin confessedroflmao
>>2796960Withdrawing an aircraft carrier that was already docked in Italy and out of commission for the foreseeable future, for repairs unrelated to combat, isn't really significant as far as a change in active units on the board. The Gerald Ford has been OOC for like a month now
>>2797026>the "true believer" calls me a heathenI'll take that as a compliment. Especially since you will never, ever be in any position of power to do anything, nevermind purge me. In fact, there is a higher chance of my purge you, instead. Leftcoms, never leave their chairs, and never lift a fucking finger. They don't deserve to see communism be built. They just sit, and think the purity of their belief will be rewarded by Marx descending from the heavens and granting them their perfect communist not-a-state.
>>2797021>>2796958That shit was 100 years ago please move on and update your views to relevant shit. It's fucking embarrassing
that's what I love of leftcoms and trotskyites. a lot points to historical evidence, and they act all smug and ignorant pretending that communist states fabricated evidence.
never mind they form their own communist state and see how good they are at state narratives, because 'never is the right time'.
so smugtards they are, they pretend that Lenin' Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder isn't about them.
is the uae leaving opec good or bad
>>2797038Shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up
How is any of this related to Iran
Fuck off to another thread
>>2797021Lol still seething over a random quote
>>2797043They tried to do an anti-campism/internationalism general, but it was a complete shitshow that burned down and died.
One of the mods always edits the /ukr/ OP to include internationalism general, as if it's still a thing.
You'll see this in every thread about the ongoing decline of the West.
>>2797039depends who, and the
implications.
right now? it's bad for the US. the UAE is implying they expect an oil price so high, they want to sell without market caps imposed by the OPEC.
bad for Saudi Arabia now? meh, no one can't get their oil out unless Iran allows it.
for the future? SAK only lost influence on UAE. but they've been enemies because of the paramilitary groups that operate in Yemen, their influence and who gets what in Yemen.
For the US? grim for the oil prices. meh because of the OPEC. trump hates the opec, but that's because the OPEC fixes markets upon production quotas agreements (sometimes more is pegged to the whims of SAK, actually), to protect its members and not bankrupt their national oil companies because they overproduced too much making prices go down fast.
>>2797048relevance to Iran?
>>2796650profit isnt rent. iran doesnt have a monopoly and the sale price of its oil export is determined by western cartels. the very fact that its primary export is a raw resource excludes it from being developed enough to be considered imperialist from a marxist materialist analysis
>>2797054did you forget to read the thread?
>>2797046>One of the mods always edits the /ukr/ OP to include internationalism general, as if it's still a thing.and there's always one that adds: this is /ISG/ for people who treats geopolitics like shitty map games.
I know because I baked some breads and they put that back.
>>2797056Fuck off to another thread
>>2797059sorry this is le anti-imperialist struggle
>>2796958where do you think internationalism comes from if theres no nations you fucking idiot
>>2797065pls take your own advice
>>2796971>defeat of western imperialist hegemonyis that supposed to be bad?
>>2796602> If Brazil on the contrary should be victorious, it will give a mighty impulse to national and democratic consciousness of the country and will lead to the overthrow of the Vargas dictatorship. dunno where this has ever happened, winning wars pretty much always cements the power of the government unless another major power is ready to immediately pounce on the depleted military stock of the winner.
the real reason that has developed over history really seems to just be that it's because it'll help slowly chip away at imperialism.
Why do leftcoms even quote Lenin when they fundamentally disagree with him? Why not just quote Bordgiger or whoever?
>>2797053>Trump says it’s ‘great’ that UAE pulled out of OPECYup, Trump is trying to dismantle OPEC.
>>2797064internationalism means proletarian globalism not inter-nationalism u classcuck
>>2797068just sayin' that's what ""If Hitler can make yield the odious powers of England and America, while making thus precarious the capitalist world balance, long live the butcher Hitler who works in spite of himself to create the conditions of the proletarian world revolution" meant
>>2797072They dont disagree with Lenin, you do.
>The rest of Iran's missile-making facilities could be destroyed 'very quickly' if "we don't make a deal", Trump says
LMAO
>>2797080Anyone in the least familiar with the national question knows that international culture is not non-national culture (culture without a national form); non-national culture, which must not be Russian, Jewish, or Polish, but only pure culture, is nonsense; international ideas can appeal to the working class only when they are adapted to the language spoken by the worker, and to the concrete national conditions under which he lives; the worker should not be indifferent to the condition and development of his national culture, because it is through it, and only through it, that he is able to participate in the ‘international culture of democracy and of the world working-class movement
>>2797072online "leftcoms" and "ultras" don't believe in anything, they're people whose only purpose in life is "owning tankies" who were anarchists 7-8 years ago but realized that nobody takes anarchism seriously anymore
it means nothing, stands for nothing, they're on the same level as sharty spammers except sharty spammers may sometimes post absurdist gems
>>2797083
>UAE seeks US dollar swap line to ease bank liquidity pressures
Quitting OPEC was likely the demand from the US. Global hegemon is doing global hegemon things. That's bad for class struggle.
>>2797076yeah, and yet his demented brain doesn't understand that if the OPEC breaks apart, and then UAE overproduces too much, they will break the US oil companies.
the margin prices for UAE are like 2.5 dollars to produce one single barrel of oil (to be break even), while the US the cheapest doesn't go down 70USD, and don't even get me started on shale oil, fracking gas, because the prices are crazy expensive.
>>2797087nationalism is literally retarded and you are a national demcuck
>>2797088>>88 dubs of nazi
>"leftcoms" and "ultras" don't believe in anythingWe don't BELIEVE in anything. We stand against everything, including (You), in favor of the movement towards global communism
>>2797099Cheap energy is good for the West.
>>2797082no, mainstream left communism openly disagrees with lenin. idk why "leftcoms" here pretend any different
>>2797103but here's the issue. all of that stupid narrative about boosting US domestic oil production was motivated by the sole idea that it wouldn't give any tools or bargaining tools to oil producers over the US foreign policy.
you have oil think tanks bragging about how important is shale oil, fracking gas, to empty the coffers of countries like Russia, Iran and Venezuela.
if the OPEC breaks appart, then UAE beaks US oil companies apart (when the strait go backs to open businesses), who's really winning?
that's why I said:
meh for the US in the future here:
>>2797053, though as per usual, I don't explain myself too well.
>>2797110
Disgusting phone poster?
>>2797075damn, this nearly broke the mortgage market. lmao.
trump wishes to cut not only evaporated, the fed urgently now needs to raise rates.
lmao
PANICUM MODE hyper-inflationary spiral coming to the US.
>>2797114just print more money then
>>2797075What's that about?
>>2797129the federal reserve went on quantitative easing from 2008 to 2022, keeping inflation artificially low, without a commodity scarcity (started with the housing market, but because it was an speculative bubble that busted immensely). this would be read in the bond markets as that the fed isn't controlling inflation, just giving up, and won't stop yields, they will only spike further, making the inflation just worse.
they can't
haha money printer go brrrr their way out of this.
War deepens generational rift inside Iranian-American households Recent polling
<attached filepoints to a generational divide within the diaspora in views on the war. A March 2026 survey by the Public Affairs Alliance of Iranian Americans found that individuals aged 18 to 34 are less likely to support US-Israeli strikes or US backing of opposition figures seeking political change in Iran.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-deepens-generational-rift-inside-iranian-american-households >>2797090WTF is going on here? Is it just about getting a better number for the news?
>>2797173Yup. It's like COVID again. Line go up is all Donnie gives a fuck about.
https://youtu.be/jg85H26wyLk?t=860 >>2797180>oil companythe never-losers of all the US economic crisis.
if oil expensive, extraction companies earns a lot. their processing companies just cut production, and reduce jobs, and put the burden on the consumers.
if oil is cheap, they can sell much more processed products and they'd have records profits thanks to cheaper prices, despite their oil production/extraction divisions may have to cut jobs.
>>2797323Is this the paper market just now catching up to physical oil or a sign that the conflict is about to start up again?
yall heard UAE is leaving OPEC. that's crazy
>>2797328Did you hear Trump announced it as a win without specifying how? Now that's real cope.
>>2797327we're about to enter May, when the futures were being sold for when the war first started. They're going to try to cash in and it's not going to be possible because the physical oil is not there. So, yes. The market is finding out that their futures investments weren't worth what they paid for them, and now the futures markets are catching up to reality to compensate.
>>2797328It doesn't matter. They've been violating their quota for decades now, alongside some other gulfies like Kuwait.
Fun fact: It was the cause for the first Gulf War alongside the Iraqi debts. Saddam wanted higher prices but their overproduction exerted downward pressure on it.
May is probably going to be incredibly bumpy but shit's not really going to hit the fan for the West until June when reserves begin to dry up, if the war is still going that is. Anybody going all in?
Iran won btw
>>2796405where did the iranian government plane go
>>2797341i would suggest we all buy oil futures for the summer to further accelerate the collapse and enrich ourselves at the same time but I'm guessing a million cryptobro wsb chuds already did it back in february.
>>2797372inb4 uncle sam funds the Afghan talibans… again
>>2797372Yeah I've seen posts the past few weeks about Iran just moving their ships through Pakistan's territorial waters that the US can't enter without declaring war. Moving their stuff by land makes it easier and also creates a profit opportunity for Pakistan since they can ship it directly to China and take a nice cut.
Iran really is not dependent on the strait.
>>2797370My mom just sent me $40 put it on avocado at 750%
>>2796962please stop shilling this shit, even lassalle and bernstein would be ashamed to say this
>>2797055I'm referring to the toll booth which is rent
Every victim country on the planet should be given minimum 5 toll booths to extract rent from the imperialist gangsters as a treat
Currently one
C-5, four C-17s, four C-130s and one KC-135 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were six C-17s and one A-400.
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https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=7324e5>>2796933You are a retarded jewish negro
>>2797064Drop dead retarded /pol/uyghur
leftcoms are destined for the Cuck Pit
>>2797531violence is the simplest argument against natsoc leftkkkoms
>>27973723000 containers is literally nothing.
>>2797659it's not
literally nothing
>>2797661
Doesn't understand the book award
>>2797673
>>2797668
This is the Iran thread fuck off
>>2797673
He spent +100 pages explaining why Lenin was right about you doe
Hello this is mersham and today on iran podcast I show how to hold hands with your friend while piloting drone over strait. The americans tried calling it gay so we put it in jail.
Imagine taking an Italian seriously, let alone a fat fuck who never did anything in real life
changing the world and not merely interpreting it ❌
overdosing on pasta and cheese ✅
>>2797683>>2797685>>2797688Go make a thread about it you braindead faggots.
>>2797328explain what this means for dummies like me
>>2797437>im using the imprecise colloquial definition instead of the marxists materialist one ok. dont.
This whole situation ended up being a huge W for Iranian pragmatists and reformists contrary to what most would have assumed at the outset
>>2797848I'm already 8 minutes into this video and I can't tell if it's a parody or not. Is this really just him rambling on about how people overreact on the internet for 50 minutes?
>>2797555Thank you for posting this.
Nobody cares about the Israeli seizure that's just happened?
>>2797928I do care but I already posted about it in /pig/ and forgot to do it here. But at the same time it's just one more thing on a laundry list of horrible shit they keep doing.
>>2797942
Yep
>>2797848Hey that's the UAE-funded islamist bourgeois lapdog
Really putting the pol in leftypol
>>2797872Anon discovers sophism
>>2797967there was a video where he said normalisation with israel but i cant find it anymore
>>2797928people have génocide fatigue
>>2797967yeah he kinda sucks ass but its still good to understand the perspective he represents
>>2797991well the actual facts arent wrong its just his pontificating about 'proper' business that is dumb as hell
>>2798015
Literally fake news
>>2798019too many people have posted fake news here lately
Here's how Trump can still win:
Emprison all IRCG
Prosecute the Ayatollah for hate speech
Don't siege Hormuz take it immediately
>>2798034And then make it antisemitic and illegal to say the US lost. Trump LITERALLY can not lose.
>>2798019>>2798024Keep reporting it. Hassle the jannies on /meta/
>>2798011>well the actual facts arent wrong this. people attach way too much importance to whose mouth the words came out of and not whether the words were trvke or pvke
>>2798028Last time it was just local testing.
>>2797022Literally lost its empire and status as top dog but okay
==Iran’s air defence activity related to engaging ‘small aircraft, drones’: Tasnim=÷
Iran’s semi-official Tasnim news agency has reported that the air defence activity heard in Tehran is linked to efforts to counter “small aircraft and reconnaissance drones.”
https://aje.news/txlhaf?update=4535713It reports the air defence sounds are still being heard in some parts of the capital, including in western, central and southeastern areas.
>>2798024>>2798058highlight it's one moron who posts fake shit.
I sometimes post headlines, but I verify first if they are true.
If I get a request of legitimacy I can send links, for example:
>>2796187 (me)
>>2796258 (nta, request)
>>2796267 (me, providing source)
I save some seconds not copying more, but if I peak the interest of someone, then I make the extra effort.
so the mods don't go crazy and start banning everyone who simply post info without links.
>>2798142Jannies, won't do bare minimum to keep board clean and keep quality up, but will instayeet you if you post news stories without links. Make it make sense.
>>2798011>>2798061This.
Another 100 billion towards Sudan's genocide and gold extraction now!!11
>>2798149>Keep quality up>post no source newsI readily await the hour of the burger
>>2798149>Make it make sense.I can't. I am not complaining about the quality of imageboards.
>>2798149Talking to the mods and it's a barebones operation because of many reasons. Essentially it's an effort to find an acceptable homeostasis without being too hands on, because if you encourage jannies to be too active, it turns into sectarian shitflinging between mods with differing views. That's why bunkerchan split.
It's a fucking imageboard. It's impossible to make it anything other than laissez faire without things breaking down.
A few hardline rules here and there, and infrequent periods of banwaves for chuds and reactionary posting when things get weird to remind people there's a spirit to the board.
But other than that: stop whining you little bitch and just be happy this site exists in the first place. Almost the entire staff are oldheads and have fucking kids and a job and shit. Be the change blah blah
>Israel’s top Jewish religious body 'refuses to condemn' smashing of Jesus statueArmy sought statement denouncing incident as contrary to Jewish law amid backlash, report says
>Instead, the Rabbinate reportedly agreed to coordinate with the military and Israel’s propaganda apparatus, known as hasbara, in handling similar incidents in the future.https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israels-top-jewish-religious-body-refuses-condemn-smashing-jesus-statue >>2798028And Iran is going to take it like good little boys
>>2796617>while trying to overthrow my democracy.look at my working class dawg. we are NOT getting socialism
>>2796783For those buying fuel, yes.
>>2798190So why do we have so many rules if, by your own admission, thry have no interest in enforcement?
>>27981583 years of Gaza genocide, Syrian Generals, etc etc etc, thry never had an issue with no links. It's just a pretext to remove people they dislike.
>>2798190I'm of the opinion mods should generally do the bare minimum in terms of content policing, and trust the userbase to have discussions even on sensitive topics without the site going full nazi. Not to be a "free speech absolutist" because I do think communities reserve the right to exile people that don't fit the culture, but the volunteer internet traffic cops shouldn't be the ones deciding that tbh. Their job is to get rid of abusive content and prevent the site from becoming a glowie honeypot by deleting cp and illegal spam. That's about it. They aren't elected leaders under a party structure that should be dictating the party line based on consensus.
At the very least the moderation system should be less black/white and, barring actual illegal content, bans should be limited to a few days for trolling/shitposting. You shouldn't get a 5 week ban for posting pic related in response to a actual misandrist posting "kill all men" like what is someone supposed to learn from that encounter? Don't mock sexists? Why do bad faith actors get to weaponize the rules against you for daring to respond to their shitty posts? Fucking redditification of the internet.
Praying for the day we get a lefty platform that is fun to post on and doesn't feel just as suffocating as being at work. Sorry for the offtopic rant.
>>2798275You just know he's gonna pick the worst option
>>2798280I disagree. I think moderation of any forum should be proactive and unapologetically politically biased. I am glad that they punish posters even if they by mistake make a racist/misogynist/lqbtqphobic joke. Reactionaries must never be allowed to carve out a niche or insidiously spread reactionary ideas.
>>2798260I remember last year multipolarites were calling Parsi (IRGC sympathiser) a western agent because he documented Iran's decades long secret trade deals with Israel.
Now they're unironically posting his tweets as source kek
>>2798263>>2798272This is the iran thread, fuck off faggot
>>2798280>I'm of the opinion mods should generally do the bare minimum in terms of content policing, and trust the userbase to have discussions even on sensitive topics without the site going full nazi. We already have that, retard, look how poor the quality of the board has been.. You don't have to even look further than this thread, where some autistic Italian is constantly using it as a platform to piss and shit all over the place about his fave.
>>2798293>I am glad that they punish posters even if they by mistake make a racist/misogynist/lqbtqphobic joke. Reactionaries must never be allowed to carve out a niche or insidiously spread reactionary ideas.you're literally a fascist lol
also this mentality just inevitably turns into reddit as you transition from "banning nazis" to "banning reactionaries" to "banning anyone who could be possibly construed as having non-approved beliefs" to "banning anyone who scares off the womenfolk" and then finally "banning anyone who scares off the advertisers"
do we really want the entire internet to be ultra-sanitized slop where the only opinion you're allowed to have is being an echochamber for the site owners? marxist labor orgs have a long history of open debate and discussing non-PC topics openly and without judgement and now you want to take that way because "le reactionaries might infiltrate and uh, convert us into nazis" like how little trust do you have in your fellow leftists lol.
>>2798300>>2798300>>2798300>do we really want the entire internet to be ultra-sanitized slop where tjust this site
>lso this mentality just inevitably turns into reddit as you transition from "banning nazis" to "banning reactionaries" to "banning anyone who could be possibly construed as having non-approved beliefs" to "banning anyone who scares off the womenfolk" and then finally "banning anyone who scares off the advertisers"lmao
back to 4chan
>>2798297>We already have that, retard, look how poor the quality of the board has been.. You don't have to even look further than this thread, where some autistic Italian is constantly using it as a platform to piss and shit all over the place about his fave.I think the issue with the quality of the board is the mods don't actually engage with the site at all or bother checking the context for ban reports so it does nothing to improve the site when it's just the most active users getting swept up in ban waves and not the actual bad actors. I've seen quite a lot of instances where a bad faith shitposter just baits anons into angrily replying to their bait and then mass reports them, then I refresh the thread and they're all banned. It seems posing as a zionist in particular is extremely effective at baiting people you can then mass report, and the mods will do your bidding without checking the thread to know they're deleting 50 constructive posts by banning one guy for a joke. That's another issue with the way the mods conduct themselves actually, the way bans work on this site is they're basically always gonna delete ALL your posts across months or weeks in every single thread on the site, and they will also ban you from boards like /meta/ and /siberia/ for making an offcolor joke on /leftypol/, which results in a lot of users just leaving the site because what's the point in contributing. Even if you get the ban overturned, all your posts are gone so no matter how much "effort" you put into something useful and thoughtful you might as well have spent that time posting jewish nigger over and over again. this has the natural effect of just lowering the quality of the board as anons aren't gonna bother writing more than 1-2 sentence joke posts if they're just gonna be mass deleted anyway.
I'm sure the response to this will be "it doesn't happen if you don't break the rules" but I've seen entire high-effort discussion threads purged over the OP getting banned. In fact its happened to this particular general multiple times lol.
>>2798306>just this sitewhy are you on an imageboard expecting sanitized family friendly posting? doesn't reddit exist for your purposes? or hexbear? or idk, the Democrats' official discord server?
>>2798272
>hitler and benito
Liberals have long ago become the greater evil, you won't scare me with 20th century ghosts, enjoy your united front.
>>2798311nah. i'll stay here. you leave.
>>2798323nice non-response you fucking faggot
oil status?
>>2798349honking. no wait
So Seymour Hersch published a report yesterday:
>WILL TRUMP CUT A DEAL WITH IRAN?Despite reports to the contrary, some in the Israeli leadership believe the president is considering paying off the Iranian government to open the Strait of Hormuz
>America’s love affair with Israel has hit an astonishing bump because President Donald Trump, in a political panic over the economic fallout from the Iranian blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, is now “talking to Iran,” as an Israeli insider put it, about ending the current impasse in return for a payment from the United States of at least $25 billion, and possibly much more, to the government in Tehran. In return, Iran would end its blockade and open the strait to all traffic, ending a crisis for Trump, the US, and much of the world.
>One motive for Trump’s extraordinary step—I was not told how or by whom Trump’s offer was communicated—may be personal. The president, I was told, “no longer trusts Israel. He now believes he was misled” by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about the potential for success of the recent joint US-Israeli bombing attack, a goal of which was to trigger an overthrow of the religious leadership in Iran. The president is said not to share Israel’s existential concern about the need to destroy or neutralize the large depot of partially enriched uranium that is allegedly stored in at least three deep tunnels in Iran. Iran as a member of the world’s nuclear club may be an existential threat for the Israeli leadership, but not for the president of the United States.
>“He wants out,” the Israeli insider told me, and the Israeli leadership “is very upset because Trump”—in his fear of the political cost to him of a continuing blockade of the strait “has shown a willingness to ignore Israeli interests and desires.” People in the Israeli leadership “say he’s lost it. He doesn’t think of the consequences. You cannot do negotiations with Iran because every step we make he immediately broadcasts it on his social media posts. He is so obtuse.”
>One clear sign of Trump’s indecision came this morning when the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg published similar stories quoting Trump telling “his aides” to prepare for a lengthy US Navy blockade of the strait in an effort to compel cash-strapped Iran to agree to giving up the nation’s stockpile of partially enriched uranium. The Journal depicted the offer as demonstrating that Trump, “who always seeks a quick and salable victory, is devoid of a silver bullet.”
>The Israeli insider told me that the reports accurately reflected the conflicting opinions inside the administration about how to resolve the crisis, given the widespread belief that the Iranian leadership, facing steep losses of income, will eventually have to give in to economic pressure.Also a weird turn-around by Trump being okay with Iran playing in the World Cup now. I'm still expecting 1 more sneak attack
>>2798310Puritans ruin everything. Shikata ga nai
>>2797937Not like they are going to stop until they have no choice
>>2798387Ahh I fucked up the formatting and forgot the link too. Didn't sleep last night
>https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/will-trump-cut-a-deal-with-iran >>2798387>The president, I was told, “no longer trusts Israel. He now believes he was misled” if true big
>>2798387I said it before, but Trump being pathologically a narcissist and backstabbing sociopath might make him the only President actually able to dump Israel.
Course him making a separate deal isn’t a full backstab, but the more he sees Israel’s interests as harming his own, the higher the odds of the backstab.
>>2798417>>2798399you retards know he sold his daughter to jews to buy his way into the jewish bloodline right?
this guy genuinely thinks jews are the master race and worships them as the gods of scamming based on his experience in NYC real estate. he's not going to betray them. this is just stupid distractions for his base so they'll think "Trump's gonna betray Israel any day now!" while he continues doing their bidding behind closed doors.
Remember last year when NYT and WaPo claimed Trump blamed Netanyahu for the failed Iran attack and was upset at Israel for jumping the gun? Yeah look how all those rumors turned out lmao.
Trump is, 100%, without question, a slave to Zionism, and no amount of "anonymous sources claim" can make me think otherwise.
>>2798425>sold his daughter to the JewsI mean if he was offered a deal to get 20 years younger he’d sacrifice his sons first, but I don’t think he cares all that much about any of his kids. Pretty sure he wanted Ivanka to marry that guy from the patriots that kisses his sons on the mouth
>>2798387>America’s love affair with Israel has hit an astonishing bump because President Donald Trump, in a political panic over the economic fallout from the Iranian blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, is now “talking to Iran,” as an Israeli insider put it, about ending the current impasse in return for a payment from the United States of at least $25 billion, and possibly much more, to the government in Tehran. In return, Iran would end its blockade and open the strait to all traffic, ending a crisis for Trump, the US, and much of the world.adonai…. elohim…. donny might stop obeying… deploy the agent, NOW!!!!
>>2798429formulate a real response or why bother replying? I don't even agree with any of the stuff Trump thinks, but I thought that was obvious. So maybe you're just a mad /pol/fag crying that I exposed his true loyalty?
>>2798428Trump is obsessed with the European aristocracy system of political marriages. He specifically sought out marrying off Ivanka to a Jew so he could get an "in" to the Jews that he thinks rule the world and become "one of them". He would've done it with his sons but they're too ugly and generally low-value even among the bourgeois.
I'm only bringing this up to illustrate that he'll never ever betray the people he actively tied his bloodline to. Like, even if he wasn't a narcissist, he's the ultimate shabbos goy.
>>2798434surely they could do better
>>2798441
20% of population below poverty line, lmao
>>2798439Also, just like East Europe, Israel is now facing a population exodus, as young people leave for better job opportunities
Maybe the news article in OP was right…
>>2798437idk bro israel seems to be shitting its own britches above capacity lately
>>2798455an end would require terms that are actually agreeable to both sides, and there are no such terms
>>2798454Was east europes exodus as bad as israels though israel is so small and new the exodus could end the state it wont be a break up of a major region like the yugo right?
This is an inter-imperialist conflict, proove this wrong
>>2798516Iranians aren't white, therefore they cannot be imperialist according to mls
>>2798190> That's why bunkerchan split. I dont see why splitting is bad if one side is objectively wrong.
>>2798310Extreme Truke. I've given up its just not worth it
>>2798517Iranians are white though
So, uh, America won, huh?
if usa goes after cuba next are there going to be anons here saying interimperialist conflict? i just want to know in advance
>>2798530leftypol doesn't rangeban known Israeli IP's or VPN's so yes.
There are no planes currently heading to MENA. Earlier today there were twelve C-17s, three C-130s, two KC-135s and one A-400.
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>>2798530Yes absolutely. There is one common thread that unites contentious shitposters here and it is anti communism. They will excuse it as anti campism or maybe some sort of leftcoms hogwash but it will happen
>>2798530All wars in capitalism are imperialist
>>2798530you're more concerned about shitposters saying "le interimperialist conflict" rather than the fact it's a moribund state?
>>2798435You are pol. You are KKK.
>>2798530>if usa goes after cuba next are there going to be anons here saying interimperialist conflict?There absolutely will be LMAO. Gotta ignore the libtards though
>>2798530>if usa goes after cuba next are there going to be anons here saying interimperialist conflict?100%
>>2798530Cuba is a rare occasion where that wouldn't be the case because they barely exist as a state and they are barred by sanctions from exporting capital
>>2798601>moribund state?Whats that?
>>2798683one that is bound for death or irrelevance
>>2798530Hoxha called the Cuban intervention in Angola an interimperialist conflict. This won't be new.
>>2798690That’s as true for the US as it is for Cuba, intermoribund conflict
>>2798691Hoxha licked farts clean and got mad at Mao because they stopped being so garlicky
>>2798693>intermoribund conflictthat one's good, though i don't think it's actually true
>>2798691well when you're an irrelevant statelet, you have nothing better to do than to condemn every country that doesn't follow your ideology
>>2798720What flag is that on pig's uniform?
>>2798501Our turkish brothers could repopulate these lands
>>2798854And do what? Isnt that because all these slavs went to western yurop for jobz?
Currently three C-17s and one KC-135 are on their way to MENA. And earlier today there were ten C-17s, two C-130s and one KC-135.
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>>2798864Turkey is antagonized by NATO and is only in it so euroache, who serve israel, can cuck Russia
In the case of zionists attacking Turkey expect NATO to side with the jews
>>2798854Our turkish brothers have below 2.0 fertility rates, going down to 1.4. There won't be any repopulation sans some hilariously ill-thought out ideas about cloning and artificial wombs to produce orphans who will then fail at school in orphanly ways and lose their state-provided apartments to scammers associated with orphanages.
>>2798884Israel literally calls itself the Jewish State and homeland of all the world's Jews.
Take it up with the Israelis if you don't like that label.
nta btw I just know where this line of discussion is gonna go because you do it every single thread.
>>2798888Nazis called themselves socialist
>>2798892Only for the visibility. Just like Israelis, the moment nationalists came to power, they rolled back the social state to the barest minimum.
>>2798892They were though, utopian socialists of the tradition of Lassalle and Proudhon
>>2798896The term "privatization" was coined to describe their economic policy. They worked with IBM, Ford, Cocal Cola, IG Farben, Thyssen-Krupp, etc. They used slave labor. They were not socialists, utopian or scientific.
>>2798898yet also so-called socialists also indeed privatized, engaged in effectively neo-liberal pollicies, and also worked with large mulltinational corporations
>>2798896>>2798905reported for trolling
Really weird derailment lately
>>2798908sarcastically pointing out the ridiculousness in the definition of socialism is "trolling" now?
>>2798905TRVKE
>>2798908not trolling he's right. this once happened in france when the "socialist" party got elected
>>2798898Every socialist state in existence, including Marxist Leninist ones (Actual Existing Socialism) have utilized private industry and private property, the Nazis doing so doesn’t change the fact that their government was fundamentally socialist as it attempted to address the social question
>>2798915<aesgeg
the fact that the term exists should already tell you those were social democracies
>>2798915>attempted to address the social questionThat's not what socialism means. Socialism means "addressing the social question" in favor of workers by abolishing capitalism, not preserving capitalism via open terrorism against the workers.
>>279889290% of Jews support Israel.
If 90% of socialists supported Nazi Germany I would not contest the assertion that it is socialist. Of course we know that socialists vehemently opposed Nazi Germany since before Hitler ever came to power and were instrumental in its defeat. Can't say the same about Jews and Israel though. Why is that?
To be clear, I do not think all Jews support Israel, but Israel calling itself the Jewish State and also having the consent of the vast majority of Jews suggests that this isn't really as gray of an issue as many would make it seem. Antizionism IS inevitably going to be seen as identical to antisemitism, in the sense that if you throw a ball into a room full of zionists there's a high chance you'll hit a Jew(actually it's probably 50/50 with evangelicals but you get the point). We have to come to terms with this fact and not shy away from it: The Jewish State has a mandate from the world's Jews(and Evangelicals) to continue killing Palestinians, whether we like it or not.
>Iran was probably bombed or something
>>2798923Communism is not the “abolition” of capitalism, are you sure you aren’t a utopian socialist yourself?
>trump is fat or something
>>2798931Communism isn’t anything because it doesn’t exist outside of isolated tribes being butchered by Brazilian cattle rancehers
>>2798931It is quite literally an abolition of capitalism
To let you understand, imagine the situation of Nazis in 1930s. There quite literally was a state in the world where people have risen up and summarily executed their rich Epsteinites and had established collective worker ownership of all factories and land. What kind of ideology can compete with THAT beast?
Obviously, the kind of ideology that violently denies the truth, executes it's enemies, while simultaneously claiming to be out-socialism-ing the socialist USSR. As in, declaring that German workers were living their best lives ever despite decreasing standards of living, increasing concentration of capital, to the point of Nazi party forcefully dissolving middle class owning shops to provide more labor for the capitalists (lmao!) Private ownership of castles by Nazi party members as a result of bribes by the capitalist class - how's that? And in return, Nazis were declaring their porkies good, cool capitalists, chieftains of the German people, visionaries, blah blah blah.
This situation explains pretty well, I think, how Nazis came to be claiming to be socialists.
>>2798948And so will Netanyahu
>>2798948So that means we're not allowed to call jews jews any more?
>>2798948inshallah Hitler 2 also eats a bullet in a bunker while Tel Aviv is bombed to rubble
>>2798953You share 100% of his ideology (indivisible jewish identity, land and soil, national struggle supplanting class, supporting islamists, etc)
>>2798959I really hope to get photos like this out of Israel's collapse when the rats kill themselves en masse rather than face justice, but definitely not the last one because Israelis have no empathy and are fully aware of the crimes they commit against others.
>>2798961>supporting islamistswanna know how I can tell who pays your checks?
>>2798961Sinwar won, every skilled professional has left Israel and their credit rating is the same as Peru
>>2798961We don't support jewish supremacy and world domination.
>>2798965Israel lost in 1973 when it suffered 1000x times the loses of the recent war.
Israel existing post-1973 is a CIA psyop
>>2798968They’re far more fragile now that most of the population are hilltop youth who can’t do math
>>2798967We also don't support stupid conspiracy theories goycattle
>>2798978>stupid conspiracy theorieswhere's the theory?
serious question what part of it is a conspiracy theory?
I know leftypol tries to avoid discussing jews as a collective because it's anti-marxist to focus on race or religion in our critiques but there's a serious amount of fatigue towards israel's antics and if jews don't disavow israel like the demanded we do of hamas then things are about to get a whole lot worse for them, and it won't be us beating the drums of total jewish extermination, it'll be actual nazis after they outlive their usefulness and israel becomes a liability, which is happening as we speak.
>>279892490% of Germans also probably supported the existence of Germany even if they didn't support the Nazis or the genocide of Eastern Europe. It doesn't matter as much as people here seem to think.
>>2798995
jews sharted in my pants and I had to yell at my mom to wash them for me, we need to rise up
>>2799003
Meds uyghur
>>2798999Israel isn't just a smol bean nation-state but one built from its very inception on genocide and trying to push Palestinians out through terrorist bombings and murdering children and stringing them up on streetlights.
I feel like it's perfectly reasonable to be opposed to the existence of Israel and harshly judge anyone that supports its existence. Especially when the victims of their genocide are still alive and begging for help as Zionists continue to post videos of themselves murdering entire families while laughing.
>>2799011>reasonableWe don't believe in reason or appeal to "common sense" (bourgeois morality)
>nation state badYes, almost like there is an inherent contradiction to them.
>>2798978>>2799004passive aggressive bitches
>>2799017Commit suicide today
>>2799020Its funny seeing people on xitter pretend the Iranians are schizophrenic for saying this was being done to them
>>2798990>if jews don't disavow israel like the demanded we do of hamas then things are about to get a whole lot worse for them … it'll be actual nazisYou know there were the actual Nazis who did some bad things to the Jews and the outcome was the Jews forming a state with an army with 400,000+ reservists (as of present) and an estimated 90 nuclear warheads. Do you think you getting Jew fatigue is going to cause them to give that up? They won't because they don't care. So it might get a whole lot worse for them. But the operating assumption behind Zionism is that it would be better for the Jews to die fighting than to die like the Jews did at the hands of the Nazis in death camps.
>>2799053Israel was not created in response to the Holocaust and this is an incredibly dishonest interpretation of events that Israel loves to push to legitimize their state, using one genocide to justify another.
Zionist gangs were already terrorizing British Mandate Palestine and massacring children since the 1920's long before Hitler ever gained power. The Holocaust was seen as a good thing by Zionists because it specifically made the goyim more sympathetic to their plight. But don't ever think the Israelis just decided to build nukes to protect themselves from Hitler lol.
And no, Zionism has basically nothing to do with the Holocaust and it basically only exists in their rhetoric to propagandize their already-held belief of Jewish supremacy and the Jewish mandate over Greater Israel as being about self-defense.
I normally expect better from you gay nazi anon.
>>2799011I agree, I just don't like exceptionalizing their atrocities
>>2799071They are exceptional though. We haven't seen evil like this since WW2.
>>2799071making their atrocities out to be mundane normal geopolitics is much worse than exceptionalizing them.
israel's atrocities are intrinsically tied to its identity as a jewish ethnostate. if they could simply absorb the palestinians and annex palestine peacefully it would've happened decades ago. the reason they can't is because they need israel to remain a jewish state, and believe that ethnically cleansing the palestinians off the face of the earth is the final solution. it isn't just some generic massacre of civilians but an actual textbook definition of genocide based entirely on the victims not being jewish while existing on land the israelis perceive as belonging to jews.
>>2799066>Israel loves to push to legitimize their state, using one genocide to justify another.That's true they do use it to legitimize that, but I think the Holocaust had a big effect on convincing a lot of Jews skeptical about moving to Palestine that there was no alternative (unfortunately). That's just a descriptive statement not a normative one because I don't actually believe several million nuclear-armed Jews in the Middle East eternally at war with their neighbors is really wonderful. Most of the Jewish population there which came from Germany and Poland began arriving in the 1930s as the situation in Europe deterioriated, and then there was another big wave after the Holocaust as the Allies emptied out the DP camps. If it wasn't for the Holocaust then I'm not sure it would've ever gotten off the ground although it's impossible to really know.
american imperialism wayyyy more sophisticated, refined and wider reaching than the 19th century imperialism israel employs on their neighbors
>>2799073>>2799078unfortunately, there are numerous other examples, like south sudan, sri lanka, whatever amerikkkan soldiers do everywhere they deploy. by no means am i saying this is business as usual
if you try to downplay or normalize Israel in any way you are an evil person
>b-but
shut the fuck up
nobody wants your devil's advocacy, um akstuallys, and general weasellyness
all I hear is "I love genocide"
>>2799094The Holocaust accelerated things by being convenient for the Zionist recruitment effort, but the Zionist terror cells in Palestine were already attacking British peacekeeping troops to force the British out of the territory. I think Israel likes to frame it like they rose from the ashes of the Holocaust, but the plan was always going to be ethnic cleansing in Palestine with or without the Holocaust tbh.
Now whether Jews in the modern day genuinely believe Israel protects them from another Holocaust, again I'm not so sure. I'm sure the 90% who support Israel would say so, because they'll ride or die for their ethnostate using any dishonest rhetoric, but dissident anti-Zionist Jews would probably say Israel makes them feel more vulnerable due to the aforementioned fatigue.
What the actual fuck is happening in this conflict anymore
>>2799147
It's a great big fat NOTHING BURGER
>>2799149why does germany have an antisemitism commissioner? does every specific race/ethnicity hate get its own commissioner lol
>>2799151wait till you find out half of europe still has state religions
>>2799020If this is true, it's really fucked up that it almost worked
>>2799020doubt it. half of israel is green
>>2799148Titties seemed to get a little bigger in 2022
>The White House notifies Congress that it considers hostilities with Iran "TERMINATED."
>>2798990>and if jews don't disavow israel like the demanded we do of hamaswhy stoop to stupid bourgeois politics of "how dare you sir" and "why didn't you disavow X Y Z"
just kill all zionists, jew or not. simple as.
>>2799248Do they produce these fags in laps? They always have that "I love dying for ExxonMobil" look
>>2798939>>2798931two retards trying to one-up each other
>>2798947>It is quite literally an abolition of capitalismIT'S THE SUBLATION YOU STUPID FUCKING CHUD!!!!!!!!!!!!
Remember the Gaza genocide? Whatever happened to her?
We will be seeing the Iranian bourgeoisie celebrating its victory over its workers for 19th time this month soon
Everyone alive is lumpen
>>2799261>I love dying for ExxonMobilleave the innocent american oil company out of it. these liberals are dying for israel 🤬
>>2799263This. I didn't even bother saying it
>>2799280it's remarkable to see the aftermath for once. these usually end when the FPV blows up. The damage is more than I thought it would be
>>2799280Wondering how long it'll be before we start seeing porcupine/turtle tanks a la the Ukraine war.
>>2799290a few months max
>>2795908>https://xcancel.com/dreizinreport/this guy just tweeted out something calling trump a wannabe bolshevik. very useful analysis 🙄
>>2799297Egyptian mukhabrat does that in CIA black sites in Egypt on behalf of the US btw it is well documented
>>2799280zamn. what burned though? do the drones carry some fuel or something like a molotov cocktail?
>>2799325if they claim that defending themselves is antisemitism then what is the problem with antisemitism ?
>>2799325fucking USAnians
>>2799319
Iran isn't fighting for Gaza, if you didn't notice it started fighting in retaliation for US-Israeli bombing of its own country.
>>2799324no, the tanks carry fuel and oils and explosives
>>2799338so the drone penetrated the armor and reached those things inside?
>>2799334I guess the international community that upholds the rules based order will invoke the right to protect?
>>2799343Maybe but most likely the detonation created enough heat to set them off.
>>2796645They wanted to create a European Superstate to compete with the USA the same way China does. What's wrong with that?
>>2799357just the divvying up of third world resources and enslavement of entire populations with the imperialist Japanese who raped their way towards the mideast is all
>>2799366Yeah they needed the same level of resources that the USA had. This meant acquiring arable land and oil for the superstate. They either competed or got vassalised and their culture got replaced with Amerislop. Hitler wanted Europe to do what we see China doing now. Simply resist vassalisation and Americanistation. Without getting into the practicalities of it and how it panned out it isn't a bad objective in and of itself.
>>2799363China is the worlds last truly liberal nation.
>>2799363It's generally not good to undermine a partner in public even if it is for show. I wonder if this is them just putting on a face for the world, but then I remember how shit China is at Machiavellian foreign policy machinations and think it's probably just another blunder.
>>2799374I'm sorry you can't analyse history in a dispassionate and objective way.
>>2799378>I'm sorryno ur not
>>2796647I like how he stopped replying after you dropped this
>>2796645This but with China
>>2799280>>2799290>>2799293This particular cope cage is a standardised accessory that has been around since 2023.
The reason why Israel
can't do proper cope cages on Merkava chassis vehicles (includes the Namer) is because the vehicles themselves are already too fucking heavy. They're the biggest MBTs in service right now and weigh as much as a WW2 heavy tank. Putting good improvised cope cages on it would make it even slower and unwieldy.
The Merkava was mostly made to deal with the lightly-armed hostile forces that Israel has been fighting since 1980s, and the fourth variant in particular precision-engineered for 2000s insurgent forces. It's fundamentally incapable of dealing with modern drone warfare.
>>2799383chinese imperialism is progressive just like colonial imperialism in marx's era, it will sweep away the old stagnant and unproductive western mode of production that THEN will be fertile to comunism, as it will be the final possible sedention of capitalism.
>>2799379You're right, it's you who should be apologising to me for being such an insufferable retard.
>>2799389apologize these nuts in ur mouth howboudat
>>2799376Iran wants to lift the blockade as well. China, meanwhile, acknowledges Iran's right to close the strait. China does the same thing with Russia - the war needs to end, and China says as much, while Russia agrees and Ukraine disagrees.
>>2799119>the Zionist terror cells in Palestine were already attacking British peacekeeping troops to force the British out of the territory.Looking it up, that started in 1944. By that point the Holocaust was well underway. At any rate the vast majority of the Jewish military forces in Palestine were in the Haganah's HISH (Fields Corps) units and the Palmach (Strike Companies) who were under the command of Ben Gurion not the Irgun or Lehi.
>Now whether Jews in the modern day genuinely believe Israel protects them from another Holocaust, again I'm not so sure.I'm not sure either but I'm also not convinced that's actually why Zionism is attractive to so many Jews. I don't think it's so much about safety but "agency" where Jews become subjects of their own history rather than objects who are acted upon. That feels empowering to them. That's basically the whole story of nationalism really.
I don't think the anon I was replying to has really thought through what he's saying, like "don't the Jews realize that supporting Israel makes people dislike them, they'll soon have to deal with real Nazis," but roughly half of the world's Jews are Israeli, and if you want to understand anything about them then you have to reckon with the fact that they don't care what the rest of the world thinks anyways, so it's just pointless to expect them to denounce Zionism. They don't care whatsoever about other people disliking them, and I'm still surprised people think they might be persuaded to care. What in the wild word of sports has given people the impression that Israelis give any fucks about international opinion, idk.
But that's also why it's attractive to Jews. They don't have to explain themselves to anybody else. Some try but I think that's probably more of an American phenomenon than an Israeli one. All I'm saying is that it's not at all clear to me that this is a sound basis for a strategy to undermine Jewish support for Israel, which is very important. Like I was saying this isn't a normative statement about what "should" be the case, as unfortunately we live in a world where a bunch of people have chosen to define themselves via nationalism and they massacre each other because they view each other as Amalak or Baal worshippers or demons. International proletarian solidarity kind of died on the vine and we're having to deal with this instead.
>>2799325I like how khameni was ahead of fucking retards
Is the iran war over
Was the news article right..
>>2799444>in theory trump can't continue without going to congresscongress has done jack shit to stop Trump's power grabs up until this point, there's no reason to believe this will be any different
>>2799444you're right about the window but clinton ignored it in kosovo and reagan in grenada so it would be strange to see trump being that deferential to the courts
>>2799446yeah, but legally trump has to go request approval now to continue (they would have to affirmatively do something). they would probably approve anyway, but maybe not, so i don't think he will even try. he'll do the hocus pocus i said above.
>>2799434>What in the wild word of sports has given people the impression that Israelis give any fucks about international opinion, idk. They might want to start caring considering that if things keep going the way they're going they'll be left without their foreign patron and be very quickly at the mercy of their neighbours, potentially subject to sanctions and embargoes, etc. If this had ended with a one state solution back in the 20th century then I think you would have seen a thriving Jewish community in Palestine in perpetuity. By this point if Israel were defeated I wouldn't be surprised if they were all forced out, and like the Volksdeutche at the end of WW2 nobody will give a shit about them.
>>2799470anon? zionists control the capitalist fake finance economy
world leaders bow down to them willingly
what the plebe thinks is
>>2799434>if you want to understand anything about themI don't want to understand anything about them. They are genocidal maniacs that need to be put down. That's about it. We don't need to go to these lengths discussing why the Nazis did what they did, we can just kill them and be done with it.
>>2799454>yeah, but legallywho's going to enforce that?
>>2799527nobody, but it would be grounds for impeachment if congress chose
>>2799534wow not impeachment, the horror.
drumpf will surely be finished this time.
sorry I'm just being annoying but no one in the US government cares about that lol.
>>2799370China will bring the new liberal revolution in 2050
rundown of the US President's latest social media posting spree from last night:
11:03 PM - AI-generated photo of him, JD Vance, Marco Rubio, and others swimming shirtless in the reflecting pool in DC
11:04 PM - Photo of wife Melania smiling after the WHCD assassination attempt
11:13 PM - Calls Hakeem Jeffries “low autism score” and a “thug”
11:15 PM - A meme saying he has “all the cards”
11:22 PM - A gold outline of his face
11:26 PM - His face on Mount Rushmore
11:32 PM - A photo of him and Melania
11:37 PM - A photo of him and King Charles
11:40 PM - A photo of the reflecting pool under Obama vs his proposal
11:41 PM - Another photo of the reflecting pool
11:45 PM - Another photo of the reflecting pool
Who's winning
>>2799749- porky
- israel
- WH insider traders
everyone else is losing
>>2799749the international proletariat and the communist movement
>>2799749- russia
- iran
- egypt
everyone else is losing
>>2799753is israel really winning?
>public sentiment against them in the US and EU is the lowest its ever been>their economy is in ruins due to a combination of mass unorganized boycotts and Iran disabling their ability to run AI scams by bombing all the datacenters>Hezbollah is owning them in southern Lebanon>American troops are now openly discussing the fact this war is for Israel and they don't want to die for itlike sure they got rid of Khamenei but he was replaced with a more hardline Khamenei that wants to build nukes. what did they really win here?
>>2799792>their economy is in ruins due to a combination of mass unorganized boycotts and Iran disabling their ability to run AI scams by bombing all the datacentersWhy would you pull shit like that out of your ass?
People said Israel was censoring footage but they were getting pummeled by Iranian missiles. So can we see pictures of Israel moonscapes now or was it all cope. Only thing I saw was that street with a busted sewer covered in human waste.
>>2800009The spectacle brain is confused by censorship that isn't temporary.
>>2800147Ah shit you’re right, they will have another Adolf Hitler but this time Antisemitic and Pro-Israel while still being a US-Vassal despite the fact that the troops left
>>2800219>this time Antisemitic and Pro-Israelwhat makes you think that?
even the germans are getting kinda sick of israel's shit.
>>2800214dosent the US have like 50k combat troops there?
>>2799792yeah hezbollah is owning israel so hard that the whole of southern lebanon is being ethnically cleansed by israel
>>2800221Not him, but Germans in Germany, just like in all capitalist states, aren't living under a democracy where people actually decide policy. Most people I've spoken to have disliked Israel for a long while now, but you'd never get that if you only watch our ruling class talk.
>The absolute majority of Germans accuse Israel of genocide in Gaza<62% think "It's a genocide"<17% think "It's not a genocide"<21% say "Don't know">There is a majority among all parties represented in the Bundestag. Only a small radical group still denies the genocide.>Source: Survey by YouGov Omnibus Politics, 2,057 eligible voters were surveyed in the period from September 12 to 15, 2025. All figures in percent.Bottom Bar Chart (By Party) who think it's a genocide
>Die Linke (The Left): 79%>SPD (Social Demokkkrackers): 71%>Bündnis 90/Die Grünen (Greens): 71%>CDU (Christian Conservatives): 60%>AfD (New Nazoid Party): 56% >>2800147germany declared they want the most powerful army in europe by 2036, and they announced some measures for conscription, cant remember exactly, but you cant leave the country until you register for the draft, a bit like the US selective system
>>2800231those two things aren't mutually exclusive. IDF is genociding southern lebanon with bombs because they can't take it with troops. their plan is to just walk in after there are no humans left alive, but that's a terrible plan so one could argue they're just doing it to kill people for fun. they also love doing double taps on aid workers and people clearing rubble from their previous bombings.
not sure why there's so much demoralization in this thread the past few days just because "nothing's happening" you don't have to assume the resistance has fallen bro.
Basically ww3 is on and so far syria has fallen, 75% of Ukraine has fallen with Russia bogged down and getting assraped unable to do much anywhere else, Venezuela has been lost, cuba is about to be lost, Lebanon is slowly falling, iran maybe is okay for now but for how long? What major do I forget?
Please give me something that is a bit positive other than gdp ppp comparison of china vs us.
>>2800235>Germany gets a bigger army by 2036What a weird number, wonder if it’s the 100th anniversary of something…
<Loads up HoI4 >>2800243Yemen is probably in a worse position than it was before the STC fell but the Houthis will still probably win as long at the US is bogged down with Iran and Israel is bogged down in Lebanon.
>>2800243don't forget that BRICS is also over mostly because of India
latam fash wave is the most comprehensive and unstoppable so far since op condor
west is arming taiwan again and china is seething
japan fully coupd gone from cucked vassal to fully cucked gigavassal and serfpilled
iran may be the only source of hopium that exists currently, in spite of the IR being a bunch of clerical fascists and they biggest achievement so far has been not dying yet
i will make new thread soon…
>>2800256you guys are so pessimistic lmao.
>don't forget that BRICS is also over mostly because of IndiaBRICS is fine, India and China have always been eachother's primary geopolitical rivals and India is just trying to cozy up with the US because the current status quo is too advantageous to China. they still rely on China for a massive amount of trade and that's not changing. if(when) India does fully move from "nonaligned" to "cucked American zogbot nation" it will be out of desperation as they are relatively regionally isolated. All of India's bordering countries HATE India and as a result often choose to ally with China.
>latam fash wave is the most comprehensive and unstoppable so far since op condorwhat fash wave? Milei and whatever is going on in Venezuela?
Milei is like an even less competent Bolsonaro, he isn't doing shit. Venezuela is still officially Marxist even if they betrayed the revolution to cozy up to the Americans.
>west is arming taiwan again and china is seethinglol
>japan fully coupd gone from cucked vassal to fully cucked gigavassal and serfpilledjapan situation remains unchanged since WW2. they might start banning certain foreigners(indians) though, the country is becoming unsafe. at least that's the issue 90% of japanese chuds are concerned about these days. no indication the relationship with the US has changed.
>>2800243Class war is gonna erupt in the US soon, or it wont idk
>>2800279The US is a hegelian state, no class struggle to be had here
>>2800279This summer could be spicy
or it could fizzle idk
but I'm hoping cool stuff happens. Maybe if the police kill another black guy to get libs all libbed up we can coopt it into a revolution.
A revolution in the US would end with the same constitution but with rank choice voting and an obamacare public option
Someone bake.
>>2800290I skimmed this and correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds more like Milei paying the Hondurans to run a social media campaign smearing other latin american governments to build civil unrest and also coordinating with the Americans to basically militarily occupy Honduras so it can be used as a hub for military operations in the region in exchange for money. I didn't see anything about outright planned violence.
>>2800326Don't just skim USAnian. Read. The USA and Israel plan to replace the current president of Honduras, who is already lenient to every economic and political demand the USA has made of Honduras, with Juan Orlando Hernandez (who was previously condemned to 45 years of prison on drug trafficking charges but who was later pardoned by Donald Trump) because Juan Orlando Hernandez is willing to implement an extermination campaign of leftists in Honduras. His media enterprise which he is setting up in the USA (or was, who knows if the plans are still on) will serve the purpose of feeding false stories of Latinamerican politics to the USA to justify interventions, the deposition of leftist governments, the installment of USA puppets, and, as in Honduras soon, the violent purge of leftists from politics.
The USA intelligence community surely has other plans with the same ultimate aim. Worth pointing out that Juan Orlando Hernandez implies in one of the leaked audios that Donald Trump
will stay in the presidency forever. There's many more scandalous things there. It is a very important piece. Read it.
>>2800243Ben said that Iran changed the global hegemony and this war will be the end of the US empire.
>>2800410
>I suck american cock constantly
yes we know
>>2800410
Wow your retarded
>>2800410
every post you make is angry racist imperialist hostile garbage draped in the cloak of "true" "left" "communism". You are a disgrace.
>>2809731>>2800600God damn I wish I could shoot these non-mexican simian chimps that yave no fucking clue how the Mexican politics work
Rocha Moya has proven ties with the Sinaloa Cartel, even years ago during his governor campaign. You defending him because "muh CIA" show that you are a baboonian chimpoid.
>>2809738>>2809741Yeah retard the administration that pardoned juan Hernandez of Honduras, and is best buddies with nabao of Ecuador really cares about ending the drug trade
Fucking idiot
>>2800410
stoopid idiot go back to pol
>>2800410
>You stupid inbred uyghur, Maduro is 100% in bed with cartels and the Us invading Venezuela is a good thing.
>>2809746>>2809748>>2809750>>2809753>>2809755Baboon chimp
Simian orangutan
Gorilla monkey
The 2021 elections for Sinaloa were very violent and The Chapitos, part of the Sinaloa cartel, were supporting Rocha Moya
https://www.laizquierdadiario.com/Sinaloa-arrancan-elecciones-en-medio-de-la-violencia >>2809758>>2809758You're like the guys on /pol/ saying that shienbaums rivals were killed by the cartel ;because there was violence in local elections
When i first started browsing leftypol around 10 years ago when someone had a leftcom flag they usually hd something smart to say
How things have changed
>>2800290>>2809758>>2800410Rocha Moya is literally an american agent he participated in the kidnapping of Mayo Zambada along with chapito faction and us agencies
all of you guys are retarded
>>2809763>shienbaums rivals were killed by the cartelthey where though also her allies got killed you really don't understand how the mexican narcosystem works if you think there are any politicians who aren't participating in it
>>2809766Man shits rough for morena damn if you do damn if you dont
Meanwhile the pri got to be insanely corrupt but where willing to sell the country to america so it was cool
And even before the 80s the pri economicaly was pretty socdem, the us just was thankful to have someone right of castro in Mexico
>>2809767I know people in politics in Mexico, im not completely ignorant
https://youtu.be/TUXSkoj0Gv0?si=bZTqmoLiI9bfoYAqRocha Moya was pointed out as part of a conspiracy to kill Melesio Cuen and allow the US to kidnap El Mayo, a very important Sinaloa Cartel leader, when El Mayo told the US he was betrayed and this info became public, Rocha Mota said that was false and that he wasn't mean to be part of that meeting, and that he had traveled to the US, when asked to provide evidence of such trip, he straight up refused.
Melesio Cuen was a political figure andpart of a university in Sinaloa, the State fiscal of Sinaloa lied about how he was murdered after videos of such situation were made public.
>>2809771>gets the el mayo arrested >Sinaloa cartel still suports himDamn what a chad
Rocha Moya gave massive water contracts to "Los Chapitos" who are part of the Sinaloa Cartel
https://youtu.be/-7WxYnTGhkE?si=q7uDXr68oCrr5xKF>>2809760>>2809762>>2809763Stupid chimp simian, Imagine being such a retarded fucking gorilla baboonian that you somehow believe pointing out a bourgeois socdem is embed with Cartels means I support Israel, fucking retard chimp monkey
>>2809773Sinaloa Cartel had a split right after the whole Mayo kidnapping and the murder of Melesio Cuen.
>>2809770Why do you claim to be knowledgeable about Mexican politics while claiming that any criticism to Rocha Moya is CIA propaganda
>>2809801Because they didnt start manufacturing consent for intervention in Mexico until after morena won,
Theres probably half a dozen pri or pan governors that are just as corrupt and the us doed not care,
(The city where my family lives got really bad in 2018 after the pan governor invade both the CDS and the CJNG to set up business there )
The US does not truly care about ending the drug trade in Mexico or other country, no other country has done more to bring about the existence of the drug trade in latin america than the us
And you believe they ask for the extradition of this man (maybe he is maybe he isnt) in good faith?
Why?
>>2809788>somehow believe pointing out a bourgeois socdem is embed with Cartels means I support Israeldenounce israel and zionism at once or otherwise your a cia agent and have daily sex with netanyahoo
>>2809805they don't need to manufacture consent to do something they've been doing for centuries and morena are obedient bitches just as prian where meaning the us doesn't need to invade to do as they please a good example is actually rocha moya whom they used to achieve their goals (capturing mayo) or that chihuaha governor who set up a cia office in the state
>>2809768morena is just pri 2.0 not even the nationalist """socdem""" one with the ISI but the neoliberal salinas one
>>2809816I wish shinebuam would tell trump to fuck off Mexico doesn't have the military power to do this
What to you want her to do?
>>2809816Isnt chihuahua pan landia?
>>2809788>click link>the source is the DEAI am a little skeptical
>>2809821so you agree the structural conditions of mexico beholden the country to the designs of the us imperialism and liberal electoral politics are merely a facade of democracy with virtually 0 actual differences between the existing parties?
>>2809822yeah thats my point
>>2809829>>2809829Yeah i guess still think morena is marginally better
And i live the usa so comparing their political project to the democrats and Republicans they seem god tier ( especially since they are operating under harder conditions ) but the bar is really low.
Shinebaum is in my opinion better than amlo and better than any head of state in Mexico since cardenas but the bar is low (maybe some 1940s and 1950s pri where making good moves i dont know about).
Cuatemoc Cárdenas would have done a good job in my opinion
The thing that gives me hope is how much communist grafiti i see on the streets when i visit my family, at least in baja sur and cdmx it seems like a good part of the youth understand
>>2809805>Because they didnt start manufacturing consent for intervention in Mexico until after morena won,They didn't start manufacturing consent for intervention until the orange retard got in power, because Bush and Obama wanted to keep trade as it is.
>Theres probably half a dozen pri or pan governors that are just as corrupt and the us doed not careWhy don't you stop arguing in probables and give me names of said governors? Not like it matters because like 38 of the 32 governors in México are from Morena.
>The US does not truly care about ending the drug trade in Mexico or other country, no other country has done more to bring about the existence of the drug trade in latin america than the usAnd yet Morena allows American military personel to train in Mexico, Morena doesn't do anything to stoo the foreign backed cartels and actively allows them to terrorize workers and the general population
>And you believe they ask for the extradition of this man (maybe he is maybe he isnt) in good faith?Maybe he isn't? Go watch the Youtube channel Personajes México, he is an anarcho-communist and goes into great lengths explaining how Rocha Moya is completely allied wirh cartels
>WhyTo see Morena fall of course.
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