I have an anarchist YouTube channel.
I have a unique analysis on things. I'm not an ancom. You could describe me as an individualist anarchist or as a primitivist anarchist.
Check it out and tell me what you think!
https://www.youtube.com/@diodtheanarchist>>2803065It's a good thought experiment. My version doesn't have the x axis as the economic axis. I'll find it and share it with you guys.
>>2803080That's WASP coded of me hahaha
I've heard people say "an historical"
Forgive me for the grammatical error anon.
>>2803073Left wing economic policy being inherently anti-autoritarian decent-ish argument (although trying to map various real regimes would quickly reveal not comprehensive enough), but what is the point of keeping two axis, when they both represent anti-autoritarianism? Flattening it into a single dimension would make the compass more coherent without losing anything.
>>2803059
being attracted to vunerable children is bourgeoisie and you will be forced into a gulag once the revolution comes
>>2803095The purpose of the chart is to show how things interplay in the real world vs in theory. That's a useful thing for a chart to depict. Depicting whether an ideology is vaguely "authoritarian" or not isn't. How would you draw the chart anon?
>>2803099If that is what you want to show, why cut off the corners for being "contradictory"? Isnt that the whole point of the chart? Anarcho-capitalism should be then kept there, as it represents that incongruence between theory and practice.
>>2803116Because anarcho-capitalism has never been tried, and if it were tried in the way rothbardians like it (they celebrate throwing communists off of helicopters), it would be extremely authoritarian. I included anarcho-capitalism in the chart.
>>2803121What I am asking is, why is there "inherently self contradictory" area cut off from the rest of the chart, when the point of the chart is to map degree of contradiction? Why isnt for example bottom left corner coloured as contradictory, since anarcho-communism also hasnt been tried, and argument could be made it either uses autoritarian methods to coordinate economic equality (no longer being anarcho), or fails to enforce it and ceases to be communism.
>>2803133Because anarcho-communism isn't authoritarian in practice, lol. Say what you want about ancoms, but they don't rule over others.
Something that is anti-authoritarian in theory but not in practice is a self contradictory ideology, and vice versa.
>>2803142>Because anarcho-communism isn't authoritarian in practice, lolCould you give me some examples?
Or why is neo-liberalism as quite authoritarian in theory, its preachers consider it as the best tool to maximalise individual freedom. Out of contemporary political systems, fascism is the only one whose proponents would openly proclaim it autoritarian, as they are mentally ill cucks.
>>2803149Yeah, fascists are the most honest about it. Hence their place in the top right corner of my chart. Any political ideology that supports authority is authoritarian. And if you actually press a neo-liberal on their beliefs, it's quite clear that they believe that the boot to be stepped on with should exist. They will always argue in defense of authority.
As for anarcho-communism, I'm sure some ancom can spawn in here and tell you about all the cool anarcho-communist experiments in the past. Where would you place it on the chart, anon?
>>2803160Trying to measure authoritarianism "in theory" is just not very useful, everybody is anti-authoritarian, except for authority the consider legitimate. Submission to authority as a value in itself is uniquely right wing phenomenon, nobody else considers it a good thing. It is a personality syndrome, not a coherent political program.
>As for anarcho-communism, I'm sure some ancom can spawn in here and tell you about all the cool anarcho-communist experiments in the past.Yeah, they will tell you about Catalonian horizontally organized death squads and labour camps. I would not put it on the chart at all, as in practice it has either no been tried, or if it was it wasnt very anti-autoritarian.
If you wish to stick to this kind of theory vs practice analysis, I would go back to the drawing table and figure out how to operationalise them.
Also this thing is just not a replacement for common political compass, but a different measure altogether.
>>2803160For example you could use F scale to measure average autoritarianism, then ask them about their attitude to various real life regimes to gauge their actual political conviction (i.e. guy who sympathises with Nazi germany is going to be labeled a fascist), plot results on
y axis, and then put regimes in autoritarian/anti-autoritarian practice
x axis based on your judgement.
>>2803187>Yeah, they will tell you about Catalonian horizontally organized death squads and labour camps.That was an anarcho-syndicalist project.
>>2803187I'm not an ancom, but Durruti was based. Sadly he was killed by stalinists.
>>2803187A slave revolt is always justified
>>2803254Is not, historically nothing good has ever come from a slave revolt.
>>2803266If you want to be a slave and work for me just say so
>>2803276Are you a woman?
>>2803278No I'm a fat guy, but it doesn't matter since slaves don't get to choose, if you were my slave you would be doing dangerous work
>>2803280do you have a fat cock as well
If one is both
- an egoist and
- in favor of a drastic reduction of the global population to something much smaller than half
that is probably a contradictory stance, because one is likely to be in the vanishing part.
>>2803398The second is just analysis. It's not like I can personally kill off that many people. And realistically if you're a communist, the same thing applies. It's not just primitivists.
>>2803421I'm saying YOU are getting killed in that scenario you dork.
>>2803425You too bro. It would be worth it. The world population for humans should not be more than a million, ideally.
>>2802326wtf leftypol and pol summarized in one single tweet
>>2802326>anarchist cuddling with fascismmany such cases
>>2802393go and do something productive. read and have a peaceful life this type of bullshit only ruins life. atleast experience life till 24, then think about getting into this shit. First be a good human being, that is more important.
>>2802796stop simping for egirls anon, touch grass
>>2802406>I'm surprisingly good at compartmentalizing things and not letting them get to me. I can see racewar and genderwar slop on my tl all day and it doesn't affect me.I was also like this when I was 13 on imageboards and such places, and also reading reactionary writers. I'm 25 now and while those things never got to me, I kind of regret wasting that much time on this garbage. It didn't make me a reactionary but it for sure made me more cynical, grumpy, smug, confrontational etc.
I know you won't listen to me but I guarantee 10 years from now you'll look back and think "damn, I should've touched grass and played with the other kids". Politics is just not something you can grasp if you aren't part of the workforce. Philosophy is largely useless as well, very little of it is enriching.
Or maybe you'll make it big as a right wing grifter and collect 5k USD monthly on Patreon from paypiggies.
>>2803775>Politics is just not something you can grasp if you aren't part of the workforce. Philosophy is largely useless as well, very little of it is enriching.Why should anyone listen to you after saying this?
How many workforces were Marx and Engels part of? Lol.
>>2803781Engels was bourgeois and Marx was a journalist by profession and then, in practice, a freelance writer. Don't take this comment to say the unemployed don't count either. What I mean is that European children are not economically active and even if they were, it would have been for a very brief period of time.
>>2803782>>2803781By the way kill yourself for implying Marx wasn't a worker.
>>2803782Right, so according to you, Marx and Engels couldn't properly grasp politics. And all their appeals to philosophical tradition were useless.
>>2803783Marx was never a productive worker in his life - you are the one making this some sort of qualification.
>>2803787>productive workersSo teachers and medical doctors aren't workers either?
>And all their appeals to philosophical tradition were useless.Who here said this?
I'm so tired of talking to pedantic, confrontational retards on the internet. I have better stuff to do with my time.
>>2803791>So teachers and medical doctors aren't workers either?They don't produce value; they circulate value as much as Twitch Streamers or street beggars do.
>Who here said this?Your words 5 seconds ago:
>>2803775>Philosophy is largely uselessStop being such a defensive hypocrite.
>>2803793It IS largely useless and Marx is in agreement. I think your autism's dichotomous thinking is distracting you from my actual point.
>They don't produce valueAware.
>>2803801>It is largely uselessYour words 5 seconds ago:
>>2803791>Who here said this?You can't keep your story straight.
>actual pointThis was your point:
>>2803775>Politics is just not something you can grasp if you aren't part of the workforce. Philosophy is largely useless as well.Which is clearly bullshit.
>>2803807Consider going through a neuropsychological evaluation, the diagnosis could change your life.
>>2801999>SYNTHESIZING ANARCHISM AND THE RED PILLStop flashing memes so quickly, I want to read them but I can't. Also reading this thread, you remind me of Soph.
>>2803842Hahaha self love. You love to see it! :)
>>2803813My plan is to make my videos extremely rewatchable. Go through the entire video first, without pausing, then when you listen to it again, pause for all the references in the background ^^
>>2803745ᴉuᴉlossnW quoted (misunderstood) Stirner to spread Fascism. I'm quoting Spencer to spread Anarchy (in my future videos). Detournement is not something leftists fully understand yet.
>>2803873Have you ever read Sorel, by any chance? He's much more relevant to the revolutionary left and anarchism than people realize, but we've allowed him to be appropriated by fascists because of his hatred of parliamentarianism
>>2803875No, not yet. But I should. I only heard of him as a fascist theorist. Thank you anon :)
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