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it isn't "islamic monkeys" who started the iran war, it was white monkeys. actually, i take that back, that's unkind to monkeys.
>>2814123The man is crying over the genealogy of the British monarchy and Monastical chronicles from the 13th century, I think he's triggered
>>2814124You say all this shit while worshipping the people at the head of the country, have a bit of consistency no ?
>>2814125He literally had an Al-Qaeda training manual, fuck me imagine simping for Islamic child killing psychos , bet you think he was a "poor ickle Welsh choirboy with menthol 'elf " , I wish you actually lived around the paedo violent Islamic scum you defend, your opinion on them would change very quickly
>>2814128That gammon lives in an alternate reality, as all gammons do. So ofc they are incapable on nuance and critical thinking, as shown by how they are far more outraged by sensationalised and isolated news about some random stranger raep or murder, rather than the fact that foreign surveillance company Palantir will have access to private info on NHS patients and whose head is a Trump shill that has gone out of his way to meet the descendant of traitor Oswald Mosley to recite Mosley’s speech on the need for Britain to make peace with Nazi Germany. And that’s while Starmer is implementing a surveillance state and escalating online censorship.
“We’ll have mass surveillance and there’s nothing you can do lefty!”
t. Gammon before being hauled off to die for the terrorist base of Israel and for international capital
>>2814137>British Nationalist>Rants like a radical French one.Many Such Cases.
>>2814135"Hurrr CRITICUL THIINKING", why won't the gammons realise we need to import a million billion more third world Muslims because DIVERSITY IS ARE STRENFFF"
You have no explanation for why " diversity is our strength " , you just worship the romanticised ideal that all immigrants are lovely little Paddington Bear teddy bears here to enrich us with their culyand spicy food, and little girls getting murdered is the price to pay for this "diversity "
>>2814139are you aware that britain is heading for net negative immigration under keir starmer
will you reward him for pandering to you with your vote?
>>2814139You have given no reason why we should worship your islam loving monarchs, they don't even have good food but little girls getting raped is the pirce to keep them in power.
It was a tactical mistake for the Left to uncritically accept the pro-capitalist position on accepting immigration, thereby suppressing wages. The fact is, immigration is used by capitalists as a valve to regulate the reserve army of labor, and therefore wages.
During times of economic growth and rising wages, the capitalist class increases immigration to suppress wages and calls anyone who opposes it racist. During times of economic decline and increasing unemployment, the capitalist class reduces immigration and deports immigrants and calls anyone who opposes it "anti-worker or globalist".
The most important thing to remember is that it's the exact same class doing both things.
So the communist position shouldnt be a naive "accept all immigration" nor should it be a reactionary "deport all immigrants". The best solution is to build solidarity between existing immigrants and native workers by educating both about why immigration exists and how the capitalist class uses it to manipulate labor. At the same time, all future immigration should be curbed to prevent decline in wages and increase in unemployment.
>>2814146Sure but there was no real choice aside from hard degrowth and economic stagnation, which the people would hate much more and would result in the self immolation of any faction going for it.
The western european left actually did toy around with anti-immigration sentiments in the 1970s and early 1980s with even figures like Mittérand, the upper echelons of the PS and Georges Marchais showing oppenness to the idea, but voters wanted contradictory things.
Reminder that even Orban and the Polish right caved to immigration in order to have an economy eventually.
"I want growth with 1.2 TFR without mass immigration and without having full automation" is just pie in the sky politics, it's not even worth entertaining really.
>>2814134>”He was Muslim I swear”>Source is having some PDFWow, you’re so desperate to prove a lie that you resort to nitpicking at the weakest evidence:
https://news.sky.com/story/teenager-pleads-guilty-after-planning-copycat-of-southport-killings-13492133
>The teenager had visited Southport, which is 15 miles away, and taken pictures of the area, collected knives, researched a Taylor Swift-themed event and downloaded the same al-Qaeda manual used by Axel Rudakubana to produce the poison ricin. He had also researched high school shootings and misogynist incels and considered an attack on his old school, after dropping out, according to prosecutors. […] The teenager pleaded guilty to possession of the Improvised Munitions Handbook, the Anarchist Cookbook 2000, a recipe for making ricin and the al-Qaeda training manual, downloaded between 21 January and 6 May.Really weak evidence, especially since his family is Christian. Keep coping gammon, scapegoating Muslims won’t help you in this case. And no, police didn’t reveal his identity up until he reached the age of majority since he was a minor when he committed the murder as standard procedure. Nothing to do with his race and religion.
As for mental health, he was under NHS mental care before he stopped engaging despite not being diagnosed with any illness in court. So it’s not like you can dismiss it 100% since there’s more proof of that than him being Muslim.
Nonetheless, that wouldn’t justify burning down the country to handover Britain’s sovereignty to Elon Musk and foreign-based oligarchs, nor the riots committed by race-hustling narcissists like you.
This idea that migrants are mass murdering white Britons en masse is a retarded myth because wignats are incapable of genuine economic critique, especially when most of the feminazi wignats don’t give a shit about white (British) women and children at all. Why else do they support electing the kind of people that would gut the very services said white (British) women and children rely on, or be silent when a white (British) man commits the abuses and murders?
>>2814149Yh, if Britain decided to impose a moratorium on all immigration in the following week, the economy would be devastated. It’s not just the tourism sector, but the healthcare and care sectors as well as much of the welfare state would be demolished or at the very least economically devastating for Britain. It would be far worse than anything Brexit wrought.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if once Reform takes power, it will largely follow the same trajectory as Italy’s Meloni: Massive cuts in irregular immigration, but massive boost for legal immigration, especially when it comes to helping out certain sectors like the care industry. In Italy, the already abysmal birth rates has meant that agribusiness, care, tourism, and the construction sector have come to support immigration due to how they reliant they are on it for self-sustenance:
https://www.reuters.com/world/italy-issue-half-million-non-eu-work-visas-over-next-three-years-2025-06-30/ >>2814146- it was not a tactical mistake because it helps separate the high openness wheat from the low openness chaff. if you're closed-minded, you're very unlikely to be much use to the political side that's all about imagining better things are possible.
- such acceptance was never uncritical
- as you yourself recognize, the capitalist class takes both sides of the issue. if the left is absolutely, uncritically pro-immigration, this is obviously only 50% of "the capitalist position"
- wages don't work in isolation. a world in which one man makes £9999 and the other makes £1, and a world in which two men make £5000 are both a world where "wages" in aggregate are £10000. you are not really advocating for "higher wages" in general in the first case, you're just sucking off the bloke with the higher capacity to pay.
- britain's wage stagnation has almost nothing to do with immigration and a lot more to do with general economic mismanagement. australia, for example, has taken far more immigrants per head to no ill effect.
- there is no correlation between britain's unemployment rate and immigration. unemployment is primarily a result of macroeconomic policy. unless you look around and cannot see a thing useful task left to be done, the lack of jobs isn't because someone's gone and taken them all.
- if you accept a right-wing argument: the wage differential of shit jobs has been obliterated by poor productivity + minimum wage increases, with the simple effect that the only sane reason to become a care worker is because your visa is dependent on it because otherwise you'd have a much easier life waiting for an opening at tescos. so even in a world where there was a fixed number of jobs to go around, migrants would often not be competing for the same jobs. you will of course say that this is nasty and exploitative, but you have to consider the trade offs: being a care worker in britain beats sewing garments in bangladesh, deporting them in no way liberates them from exploitation.
>>2814149
voters going for nonsense is another one. again: starmer is very likely to hit net emigration this year, and anyone confident that doing this - giving the anti-immigrationists what they want - will win them over and get them to vote labour, should go and place a bet on Labour to win the next election now while the odds are bad!
>>2814141How can he? I mean, he rants about black/brown strangers murdering white strangers even doe not only are homicide rates in Britain at their lowest, but interracial stranger murder has always been statistically negligible compared to intraracial murder, especially familicide, spousal murder, and filicide.
As I said, he and is ilk care more about feelz than facts.
>>2814158You leftists are still crying about "muh Stephen Lawrence" more than 30 years after he was killed while black "youths" murder white children on a weekly basis, ooh I suppose their families should "shut up for the sake of diversity", eh?
>>2814159Prince andrew rapes little girls on a daily bais but I suppose their family should shut up for the sake of the monarchy.
Funny how you don't awnser anything about them tho !
>>2814159your government is controlled by child rapists and you don't say a thing about it.
you ain't against abuse you just want to weaponise it for your gains.
You're all paki loving Islamist far left scum , hope you all get blown up by the Peaceful Religion Of Peace
>>2814168I love watching Palestinians die ahhahaha
>>2814169It's so funny, you expected people to cope and seethe, but no one fell for it and you kept humiliated yourself, calling 13th century monks communists, and now, realising that nothing you say mean shit because you're extremly ignorant, you can't awnser anything, very sad !
Anyone going on any marches in London now be careful, since Met police have been ordered to arrest anyone who uses the word "intifada" for being an islamic-communist terrorist
Meanwhile the far right protesters will be sieg heiling while wearing their Israel flags and I doubt police will do a thing
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/neo-nazi-girl-called-herself-37159448https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/michail-chkhikvishvili-maniac-murder-cult-37155951Interesting how, despite all the gammons’ complaints about le woke MSM, said MSM barely reports on news like the ones above at the national level. Instead, it’s relegated to tabloids like The Mirror.
I don’t think the MSM is 100% biased, but it’s dumb at this point to pretend that sensationalism isn’t based on political expediency. Case in point, the same MSM hounding The Greens for “anti-semitism” whilst news of Reform UK and Restore Britain hosting literal Neo-Nazis and genuine anti-semites is met by the same corporate press with crickets.
Such a farce really.
Anyway, anyone who attended the rallies should post their on-the grounds report for everybody to read, especially those outside of London.
>>2814346<CCTV from the barbers captured the moment 5ft 2ins Burns swung an axe at his neck before he ducked at the last minute, avoiding the worst of the blow. The teenager then tried to strike Mr Mahmoodi again before he managed to disarm herBristol Kurds stay winning.
What’s going on with the rise of so-called “auditors”?:
https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/03/do-not-feed-the-animals-confronting-the-rise-of-the-far-right-auditors/https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/04/far-right-auditor-sends-rape-threats-to-anti-racists-family/And it seems like it’s not just political activists that they’re after:
https://archive.ph/CHmLBPersonally, they seem to combine the worst traits of street thugs and paparazzi to form a super-aggro and more insufferable versions of Nick Shirley. Despite their antics bordering on harassment, the police never deals with them since they technically don’t violate any law.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re funded via dark interest money by either oligarchs (domestic or foreign) or foreign governments.
>>2814352Just start battering the cunts like we do any other far-rightist. They'll soon go into something else hwen they can't make their YT cash without getting a kickin.
>>2814167you could have everything you ever wanted politically and the country would still get flooded with more third worlders because thats what the people who you elect do, suck the cock of the upper class.
>>2814358 (me)
Can you get stronger versions of whatever they put in those little stink-bombs for kids?
If they're filming you so you can't give them a hiding then it'd be funny to spray them with shit-smell they then have to walk around in trying to interview people.
https://news.sky.com/story/london-protests-latest-unprecedented-in-recent-years-police-operation-in-london-over-rival-protest-fears-13543456
> Tens of thousands of protesters attended rallies, suggests police commentator< Attendance figures for both of today's marches were "a lot" lower than organisers were suggesting, said police commentator Graham Wettone. He'd been given initial figures from sources in the Met Police. Wettone told Sky News he'd heard around 20,000 people attended the pro-Palestine Nakba march and around 60,000 - "or maybe slightly more" - attended the Unite The Kingdom march. Wettone said he thought the lower figures were likely to "upset everybody".Earlier, organisers for the pro-Palestine march estimated their protest was "ten times the size" of Tommy Robinson's rally, while Robinson said "millions" were attending his event.
Disappointing, but still better than last time I guess. Also, hopefully all of the attendees from this board have tried their best to game the newly-implemented face recognition cameras.
>>2814167>Religion of PeaceWhat year is it 2013??
>>2814476FOREVER FOR STARMER
>>2814477*Avicii - Wake Me Up intensifies*
What the bloody heck are these marches for? Isn't immigration at a 70% reduction under Shlomo Starmer?
Any arrests happened on this controlled pressure valve march or is that only reserved for protesting a parasitic foreign nation?
>>2814516Its about vice-signalling.
I don't think schools teach children to be creative enough. Everyone should be made to create their own art before they graduate (it can be anything that they want as long as it is creatively done)
https://x.com/smile2jannah/status/2055643859019768046Black woman complains on stage about English people being genocided in a white nationalist rally and gets cheers from the crowd
>>2814516You're right, the English people should be marching for more immigration and arrest anyone who complains about crime and rape committed by brown people
>>2814137is gammon britbong for chud
>>2814046>izzlamo-[thing i also dont like]zionist alert
>>2814516>What the bloody heck are these marches for? For less immigration, and remigration of existing migrants, including naturalized ones.
>Isn't immigration at a 70% reduction under Shlomo Starmer?From historic highs, so its still too high. For context, for the UK to have the same immigration rate as China, it would have to drop by 95%.
And people don't trust that the govt wont just bring the numbers back when pressure is let off. People don't even fully trust Reform and consider it to be the less worse alternative.
>Any arrests happened on this controlled pressure valve march or is that only reserved for protesting a parasitic foreign nation?No arrests happened in either this protest, or the one protesting for Palestine.
>>2814540Gammon refers to reactionary English pensioners
"Gammon" is the redness of their skin due to high blood-pressure, which appears phenotypical of Anglo-Saxon peoples.
>>2814545The main issue with most immigration rhetoric is that it fails to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration, and so it confuses its messaging. I am then lead to believe that its not about "immigration" per se (since I'm sure we would accept plenty of more Ukrainian refugees), but its about less brown/black people in the UK, full stop. It is the movement from nationalism to racism.
>>2814582>It is the movement from nationalism to racism.This isn't really in contention; there was a notable channel 4 interview with some of the asylum protestors a few months back where their entire discourse hinged on the implicit and normative assumption of race as being the presiding factor over being relocated to their town.
>>2814597Their dissatisfaction*
>>2814539
Yes it is and anything can be learned.
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