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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/15/oqst-m15.html

>Trade union leaders call for orderly transition from Starmer to police working class opposition


<Britain’s trade union bureaucracy is working overtime to suppress mounting hostility in the working class to the Labour government, amid the deepening crisis surrounding Keir Starmer’s premiership…
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>>2827329
Loyalists always had a weak culture (their marching songs are 300 years old and their cultural output since around 1940 has been non-existent) but this feels like colony collapse to a degree. The young people with any level of education reject this shit and get the fuck out. There is no such thing as a loyalist intellectual or artist: the moment you become one of those you stop being a loyalist.

It’s especially crazy when it’s like, how many anti protestant hate crimes happen in the Republic of Ireland?

>>2827384
It's a movement that is based on pure spite, they created northern Ireland solely because they were scared of equality with the catholics, they started murdering civilians in the streets because the catholics were protesting for civil rights, they bombed killed pregnent women in Dublin because the republic tried to make peace in the North, they threw bottle of piss at little girls because they went to a catholic school in a protestant neighborhood. They supported Brexit because it'd annoy the Irish, they supported Israel because the Irish support Palestine. They hate immigrants because they're not them.
All of that for what ? Ireland will even be perfectly willing to give their autonomy if they could have unity. They just want to make random people suffer for the simple crime of existing next to them. I worry that when unity happens they'll start some shit.
>>2827386
Litterally none since the Troubles, and even it was directly a consequence of the Unionists's actions.
They'll argue that Ireland is officially a catholic state, when the power of the chuch has all but collapsed since the 90s. They genuinly live in a different world, propagandised since birth to see the Irish as a threat. They're fairly unique in that regard in the west, even Reform voters in Great Britain aren't so obsessed and bitter, I think the cloest equivalent you'll get are the EDL types.

>>2827394
>I think the cloest equivalent you'll get are the EDL types

Tbh from what y'all are saying about Ulster Loyalists I think even that is too generous. They remind me more of the Anglo-Saxon Foundation and its obsession with the idea that "ethnic englisc" have been oppressed for a millenia by the "Norman Yolk"

We should have never defended the hotels two years after these fucks are forming porky paramilitaries so they can harass white brits for their political beliefs.

>>2827448
These aren't hotel people you retards, these are wealthy diasparoids who left Iran decades ago

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>>2827448
What many don't know is that Cyrus the Great was the first Zionist, who subsidised the building of the Second Temple after the Babylonian Exile (538 BCE). It was also the Persian Magi who gave astrology to King Herod and witnessed the nativity of Christ. It's the Eternal Persian all the way down. The term "magic" derives from the Magi, and Pliny the Elder (100 CE) claims it was invented by Zoroaster, who is also seen by many as an archetypal figure of world religion.

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>>2827453
Largest group of small boaters are Iranian. They primarily make up this cohort of Pahlavists. They barely speak English and their rallies are in Farsi. It's the same all over Europe.

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>Breaking: Labour PM Keir Starmer issue a national ban on Guiness batterred fish 'n' chips adding: "This is not Anglo-Saxon culture but celtic degeneracy."
>Former Labour PM Tony Blair found Keir Starmer decision "encouraging" and to reflect the "common sense of the english people".

>>2827476
Well that's weird, didn't know that, but still no excuse for killing them all with arson is it?

>>2827471
Cyrus the Great is also the only non jew to be considered a Messiah by jews.

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>Breaking: Manchester mayor Andy Burnham slams Keir Starmer for his comments on Oasis' Definitely Maybe album and it's classic song "Cigarettes & Alcohol" saying this was insulting to the entire northern working class. The Labour PM heavily criticized the Manchester natives debut for it's debauchery and promotion of harmful substances adding "This would not fly in under my watch". PM Starmer told the DailyMail his comments were taken out of context and Oasis still is a mighty good band in spite of their attitude, adding the he much prefered their hit "Wonderwall".

>>2827502
Champagne Supernova is their best song anyway, and Gorillaz is better at their worst than Blur or Oasis at their height anyway

>>2826116
Jewish Holocaust be like:
>6 million of us got killed by the Nazis

Angloid “genocide” be like:
>6 gorillion of r wimminz got raeped by brown men

Such is Anglo privilege.

In all seriousness tho, this is just brainrot at this point. Speaking of which, the council at Kent couldn’t solve a water crisis in the city all thanks to Reform goons insisting on every council meeting beginning and ending with a Christian(TM) prayer and singing the national anthem: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/S4XUIGj2kSk

Idk about you, but we seriously need a plan to stop more of our folks from being terminally online, and possibly built our own indigenous social media networks instead of relying on American oligarchs who are currently payrolling the British part of the ChudIntern alongside the Dubai rentier financebro class.

>>2827480
Not saying that but people put their lives on the line to protect these cunts and now they are forming paramilitaries against us.

>>2827348
Since you know more about the situation in Ireland, can you confirm whether what British chuds say is true regarding how immigration is leading to Ulster-Scot loyalists and Irish republicans allying with each other against BAME and immigrants in general?

I don't think Burnham should replace Starmer. I absolutely hate Starmer but there's a good chance that if Burnham gets in he will have to call a general election, and Reform is likely to win.

The worst possible outcome is that we get Reform AND MAGA at the same. If the Republicans get trounced and then Reform win in two years, its likely the Democrats will give them the cold shoulder and not interfere with UK politics. Whereas Reform and MAGA are active at the same time, its going to be chaos.

>>2827520
It’s better if Wes Streeting completely destroys the labour party altogether tbh


>>2827513
>can you confirm whether what British chuds say is true regarding how immigration is leading to Ulster-Scot loyalists and Irish republicans allying with each other against BAME and immigrants in general?
In the North is complete bollocks. Sectarian tensions are their highest since Drumcree. There is a growing core of reactionary republicans within the catholic community but 1) they aren't new (the Continuity IRA has been known to extort specifically immigrant/Muslim businesses for years) 2) they still hate the huns as much if not more. What is interesting about this new core is that they are so anti-muslim they have started to attack Palestine Solidarity ("Paddystinian" is an insult imported from the South). Was a recent story about disso group (not 100% sure which, think it might have be Saoradh?) heckling and harassing a mural painter on the The Falls "Peace Wall". Subtext is that apparently he "painted over" said disso group's graffiti (as in not a proper mural) but still: guy himself said that was unheard of.
Now what you DO have in the South is a core of West Brit/East Yank reactionaries who are allying with Loyalists from the North; who are making increasing tours to Dublin. They aren't exactly doing Orange Marches down The Liberties but a lot of EDL-esque sorts are making that political alliance. The Irish Far Right is a fucking mess though: it has loads of contradictions over yankeefied zionists and literal neonazis, tradcaths and "gaelic supremacists". It doesn't help that they are operating in a country that is whiter than Britain was in the 1950s but is talking about Dublin like its Tower Hamlets. Also the Irish Far Right is too ethnonationalist for its own good (they go around assaulting Ukrainians which is never how you get anywhere).
Fundamentally though, there can never be a real political alliance between these two groups because 1) the actual number of non christian and/or non white minorities in Ireland as an island is fucking tiny 2) these people still do literally kill eachother 3) state institutions in the North are still under protestant rule (PSNI is 66% Protestant, and their catholic figures include Poles with no skin in the game. Arrest rates for Catholics are 2:1 despite only being 40-45% of the population. PSNI regularly collaborates with loyalist gangs etc.) no matter how much the TUV claim there is a secret catholic irish middle class lanyard elite. Also the institutions of republicanism are very much still alive unlike every other kind of left-wing institution in britain. NI Chuds tend to overwhelmingly be middle class yankeefiles and are much like suit-wearing reformers in GB.
Worth saying the Polish Catholics are in a weird spot: many of them are very reactionary and would agree with loyalists/the irish far right apart from the fact that they are seen as immigrant invaders so end up denouncing "Irish communism" and then getting the shit kicked out of them by their ideological comrades. Saw another case where Belarusian Azov supporters put up an Israel flag in Free State Ulster and local youths came and beat the shit out of them. Hardly blue-haired wokeoids but that shit just does not fly.

>>2827513
During the various anti-immigration riots in the republic and in the North, there has been collaboration between loyalists and catholic protestors, but those catholic protestors have no link to actual republicans groups, political (Sinn Fein, Saorise, Republican Sinn Fein) or paramillitary (New IRA, Continuity IRA) However, the political parties supporting the catholic protestors do call themselves republicans and support reunification, but at this point, you'll struggle to find any party that don't, bar Fine Gael.
However, it is true that loyalists have increasingly accepted catholics in their anti-immigration protests and that catholics from the republic have come to the north to support them. This move has also decrediblised them in eyes of most of the Irish population, as inviting former UVF members to the city they onced bombed didn't exacly appeal to the Irish people, despite increasing anti-immigration sentiment amongst them.
And while there is undoubtedly anti-muslim and racist sentiments, most of the immigration riots have actually been against Ukrainians in the Republic and Romanians in the North and then later spread to encompass immigrants as a whole.

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Rupert Lowe's economic philosophy:
<The age-old battle between individualism and collectivism will always continue. I am unashamedly in favour of the individual and implacably opposed to statism, which history tells us always fails. This philosophy underpins everything that Restore Britain is founded upon. We will be unapologetic. The parasitic British state will be crushed under a Restore Britain government – cuts that would make Javier Milei blush.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/03/04/im-not-a-monster-im-proud-to-lead-the-only-party-britons/
Restore is the worst of both worlds; racist police state and free market madness.

Fe godwn ni eto

The worst thing the Provisional IRA did is destroying the guns. They made it so much harder for their daughters and sons to continue the fight.

>>2827781
Sinn Fein would have suffered the same fate as the Tamil Tigers had they continued the armed campaign past 9/11, do you WANT US troops in Belfast protecting orange marches?

>>2827782
Tamil Tigers were destroyed by China though not the USA.

>>2827783
Also it was a different situation, Tamil Eelam went into mobile warfare too early rather than staying in Guerrila warfare. Should have read more Mao.

>>2827784
The world is a better place and the Republican cause healthier with Gerry Adams and Martin McGuinness alive instead of murdered during GWOT

>>2827782
TBH no, what happened to the Tamils would never be accepted if it happened to western people.
It was a widespread ethnic cleansing campaign which looked even worse than Gaza does to us today.
Stuff like systemic gangrapes as a strategy and the complete media blackout, just for two things, could never fly or be practical in a western, english speaking country with large diasporas at that.

The Labour MP for Hemel Hempstead, David Taylor, has called on the Home Office to revoke Hasan Piker's visa and ban him from entering the UK.
He was due to come to the country to speak at some event next week.
Not even a Hasan fan I think he's a Soc Dem nepo baby who champions dumb Democrats with Nazi tattoos, but still it's absolutely insane, wild how right wing and authoritarian Labour is that they'd demand he's banned from the country.

>>2828080
I'd guess that JLM and Labour Friends of Israel are pushing for it as an anti-semitism thing off the success of getting Kanye banned. Seeing how far they can push it.
Wont say i'd be surprised if it happens, but i don't expect it.

>>2827781
Immaculate Larp. So Ireland was like Palestine in terms of hitlerite nationalism dressed as "communism". Damn.

The Republic of Ireland was the only nation on the entire planet to send a message of commiserations to Germany with regards to Hitler's death.

>>2828080
As a result of his views on Israel?

The Irish Free state is still a British colony but many are not ready to hear this.

Hey guys, I think at this point it’s no secret that Elon Musk and Israel really want to oust Starmer and have no qualms in trying to kickstart an actual civil war for that aim.

Now, will they actually be successful in terms of starting a civil war in the British isles?

A problem with answering this question is that nobody agrees on what constitutes a civil war, especially since very few such wars reached the levels of violence seen in either the Spanish or American civil wars.

>>2828473
No one in Britain has a gun, you would need the military to split up, what would even do that? Trying to kick BAMEs out of the military?

>>2828473
>Hey guys, I think at this point it’s no secret that Elon Musk and Israel really want to oust Starmer and have no qualms in trying to kickstart an actual civil war forthat aim.
Literally why though? The Starmer government is clearly not long for this world. Even if it limps along to the next election it isn't going to win it.

If a civil war happens in Britain then who is gonna have the money, time, or electricity to consume the Murdoch press?

>>2828475
>No one in Britain has a gun,
NTA, I dont agree that a civil war is ever going to happen, but having said that the royal armories would absolutely be opened up for reactionary freaks the moment a civil-war or worker rule is in sight, in whatever crazy alt-history situation.

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>>2828086 (me)
Welp. B&.
Time to do the soyfacearena, everyone.

>>2828480
Oh no, drunk Geezers with muskets and the occasional STEN they won’t know how to operate, the horror

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>>2828080
LABOUR BANS THE UYGUR FAMILY

>>2828488
>muskets and the occasional STEN
Are you actually retarded? Is this is what you think is in british armories?

>>2828543
None of your guns can fire without American authorization, they’re permissionlocked

>>2827781
Nelson Mandela of all people agreed with you

>>2828119
>palestine
>hitlerite nationalism
are you german or israeli? either way tie a knot and hang yourself now. do palestinians want a state for one ethnoreligious group only? no, not even hamas does. do israelis want that? look at their actions the last 75 years or so.

>>2828534
It's pretty funny that it happenned to Cenk after now years of trying to appeal to MAGA and other right wing freaks.

maybe i've just been reading too many insane libertarian cranks, but i can't help but roll my eyes when reading socdems these days. "why doesn't the government simply implement an industrial strategy, throw loads of money at industry, generally slap together a good economy single-handedly instead of relying on the market" motherfucker the government can't build a single railway line, have you looked at the government, if the government ran the supermarkets you'd starve to death. it doesn't matter that this isn't a fundamental law of economic reality and that governments in some places and some times can be competent: your actually-existing government is a joke!
forget industrial strategy and big LARPing photos with re-opened shipyards and coal mines, forget "reversing" neoliberalism that never mostly didn't happen in the first place, if you were given absolute power tomorrow you would spend the next 15 years constructing the fundamental infrastructure for implementing policy and you'd likely still fail. but you won't even do that because you can't even organize a party or a takeover of an existing party, or a fucking think tank. as above: so below!

socialists have the same problem times a thousand. less frustrating than socdems because it's easier to see it's in the realm of pure fantasy, but still eye-rolling: what if instead of the state doing a few things, it did everything? what if we tried new planning mechanisms that have never been tried anywhere, or old ones that failed elsewhere, or this really cool one that totally works in china where the state builds a billion miles of railway a day and beats you up if you put your hand in the till, what if we overthrew the entire existing order of things when so far we haven't even been able to get 15 people to show up to a meeting on wednesday without getting into big arguments about who we'll take our our petty psychosexual frustrations on first once we take absolute power, which will happen any day now.



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