>>2816015>These are the people who are about to hand an investment banker a 500 seat majoritybongland is truly cursed
>>2816032>proletariatlumpenproletariat*
I refuse to believe 50<% of these people are in employment - and the pensioners speak for themselves.
>>2815957You can't be all things to all people. Look at Starmer and his island of strangers speech, he was more unpopular than ever afterwards. There's a reason why we have the camps we have in this country and why say conservative socialism never caught on, yes people might fucking hate immigrants as their primary issue but that doesn't mean they're going to accept the rest of the green party platform just for that one issue, when they have plenty of other options who are 100% right wing.
>>2816043This. If we can pick up a few votes from Gammon by offering more funding for their mum's care home then great but we can't base our politics around these people, trying to desperately chase them just puts off the actual left
>>2816048Just let bongland and Amerikkka collapse. After Reagan and Thatcher these parasite honkies don't deserve to have a civilization anymore. Burn it all down they're all retarded cucks for businessmen. It is impossible to get an Anglo-Saxon to stop sucking the cocks of millionaires.
>>2816048>conservative socialismIts never been suggested, but in any case, the working class prefer conservatism to socialism in general. Class politics is dead; everything is about culture war.
>>2816050Ok great, glad you got that out of your system, now do you have anything actually useful to say?
>>2816051I'm referring to say Galloway and the various reactionary communist parties in the UK
>>2816052The Angloid Communist seethes in outrage because he knows he cannot defend his people being mindless slaves to capitalism, but if he were to accept the simple truth that his people are brainless idiots incapable of accepting Communism, it would call into question his entire life's work "organizing" "agitating" etc.
politics as personality theory stays winning
>>2816053Gazzaway is mates with the muzzies though, and tozza robbo tells me that israel is the last stand for the west.
>>2816056Now here's the deeper question; does personality determine class, or does class determine personality?
>>2816015There's something wrong with that cursed Island.
>>2816043
>Embrace the "middle class" who are for the most part normal peopleA a lot of those "middle class" people have class anxiety, and are either depoliticized, indoctrinated Blairites, or political weaklings and wave riders.
>>2816055Angloid socialism is fine, people are just mad that in a service economy that means being popular with people who look like Sam Kriss and used to read Sam Kriss until he was cancelled instead of being popular with Welsh coal miners who haven't existed since 1989 and were really on the way out since the 1960s but given second wind by 2 oil crises.
Our conservatives similarly blew themselves up as the party of the respectable but thrifty bourgeois when they decided to indulge dad's army mongs.
>>2816055You're probably an Anglo anyways, pesh off
>>2816057Well I mean that's my point, you can't win, even if you're conservative on social issues you aren't racist enough against Muslims, and so on. You have to be totally hateful and think British 'culture' is an alley behind the chippy filled with empty beer cans and cigarette butts
>>2816059>A a lot of those "middle class" people have class anxiety, and are either depoliticized, indoctrinated Blairites, or political weaklings and wave riders.Yeah sure but on the whole they're a lot more reasonable than the average rightoid who wants to set hotels on fire
>>2816059Nobody is a Blairite anymore and no ideology is worse understood. And so far as it's used to mean socially liberal economically neoliberal, it has never existed. Blairism was never that.
>>2816062I remember when the brexiteers were citing the fact that we dont use real newspapers in chippies anymore as a reason why we have to leave the EU and deregulate society - what are these spurious and uninteresting exclamations except the strained longing for something immaterial and ungraspable? Fact is, people dont know what the fuck they want; they havent got a clue - but the problem is that we give political responsibility to the plebs when they dont deserve it. Lets face it; universal suffrage is a mistake, and we need to qualify who is able to hold representational power in this country. What I see at these marches is a mob; a riotous cesspit of drunk ogres itching to paki bash. The country cannot be put in their hands, like how it was put in the hands of Hitler.
>>2816064>Yeah sure but on the whole they're a lot more reasonable than the average rightoid who wants to set hotels on fire100%. I don't disagree. Right wingers are always worse. Most of them seem to be animated by evil desires, I can't fathom.
>>2816064An increasingly dwindling middle-class in the centres of the big cities are not going to save anyone. If this is who you're going to rely on you may as well just give up.
I HOPE we petition to join back into the EU and they bugger us off. They see the writing on the wall.
>>2816078Join and then leave again in 20 years.
Scotland, Wales, and NI to the EU, England will be the 51st state of the US. The City of London, like in the Roman Walls, will be shittier Monaco or Luxembourg.
>>2816085With or without the gambling ?
>>2816087You’ll incur a fee of 2 quid for every step you take in the city if your Paddy Play balance is below 30 quid
>>2816073Literally how? It's the left leaning 'middle class' that is growing, the feral gammon are the ones dying out from alcoholism, smoking, diet too rich in fat, etc etc.
>>2816078They'd less us back in but not with the pound, we won't get the sweetheart deals we had before
>>2816073They're growing, we consider everyone with a degree "middle class" and higher education has only expanded. Meanwhile reactionaries are literally dying off.
Would like to remind /leftybritpol/ that the EU is neoliberal at heart and would limit our ability to nationalise industry
>>2816108they also ban communists from running, death to the EU
>>2816149AKEL literally elected a president to try and unify Cyprus and it was Turkey who fucked that whole process, not the EU
>>2816103>>2816107They probably mean the proportion of people whose income puts them in the income bracket informally considered to be “middle class”, which is obviously shrinking as Britain is getting poorer and poorer due to the 2008 crisis, Brexit, the pandemic and the lockdowns, and now both the Ukrainian and the gulf energy shocks, the latter of which is the biggest energy crisis in all history exceeding even those of the 1970s.
If Britain was rich, emigration wouldn’t be at an all-time high.
>>2816108True, EU-communism is retarded since the current EU constitution on private property would make it nigh-impossible to have an actual communist society within the EU:
https://commission.europa.eu/topics/human-rights/your-fundamental-rights-eu/know-your-rights/freedoms/right-property_en >>2816181bros i hate living in the butthurt belt
>>2816248right wing of capital detected
>>2816255I have no idea who either of those people are
>>2816391First one speaks for itself.
Second caller:
>I prefer Rupert Lowe to Nigel Farage; we need to go back 300 years; Only Fools and Horses didn't have this woke nonsense; black and brown people aren't English; vaccines are bad for you.It was just a sewer of slop emptied out at intervals. The guy admits that he has fallen down rabbitholes and fell out of touch with people since covid, but doesn't realise that his isolation has made him schizophrenic.
>>2816175>They probably mean the proportion of people whose income puts them in the income bracket informally considered to be “middle class”, which is obviously shrinking as Britain is getting poorer and poorer due to the 2008 crisis, Brexit, the pandemic and the lockdowns, and now both the Ukrainian and the gulf energy shocks, the latter of which is the biggest energy crisis in all history exceeding even those of the 1970s. they're clearly not actually talking about that though, they're talking about 'the mythical white working class'
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