/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2831324
>Its population doesn't rehabilitate WW2 racial crusaders whose lost cause battle now continues today,
They by and large don't do this here. I can't recall the last time my friends in Russia brought up Kolchak or Rusich either. (In fact I don't recall them every having done so)
So generally at best you can argue that the state and a minority do try to rehabilitate anti-communist reactionaries (Czars and White Generals included). But this hardly defines either Ukraine or Russia as a whole.
>Existential threat
The war could be lost tomorrow and Russia and Russians would be fine. Can you explain to me how my friends in Moscow would be negatively affected and threatened by Ukraine "winning"?
That's the issue with these grand narratives in general, maybe these events appear to mean a lot historically, but on a personal level they're hardly the transcendental transformations they're made out to be. I know and have known people who have served, I know people who have lost friends and family members. I know people who have had to flee because of the war, but generally that's the extend of the hardship and transformation in their personal lives.
There's no Armageddon, there's no Titanomachy. Frontlines move or stagnate and people's personal lives are inconvenienced whilst others profit off it. But there's no eschaton in any of this.
People in Crimea and Donetsk still have to get up for work in the morning. There's no existential threat other than Bankova losing their kickbacks and the Kremlin being embarrassed. Nor is there much of a militant revolutionary communist mass movement on either side.

>>2830998
Syrskyi's is a nazi? Khmara is a nazi? Vyhivskyi's a nazi? Is Russia fundamentally anti-communist and reactionary because they build monuments and churches honoring the Romanovs?

>>2831252
Unscheduled maintenance performed by Ukrainian drones, more like.

>>2831367
zelya is honoring oun-m. get a grip.

And once again, I have to tap on the sign again on the subject of
>monuments.

>>2831377
the likes of him eventually retort to the collaborationist party card.
as if the bortherlands were the least reactionary path in this discussion.

>>2831384
It’s quite ironic of them considering basically all western communist parties are at best pressure groups on the lib centrist party and usually seek legitimisation from them by participating in dragging AES through the mud.

>>2831415
>faction
Tut tut they should do the correct western thing and split a thousand times a year

>>2831420
>the national socialists who reject class struggle are just one faction of the party bro
right, why don't you just join United Russia, at this point even Putin is not as much as a cuck as mls who are a minority in this fascist joke of a party

>>2831423
Article in the screenshot says faction my dude, trying to present that as the only opinion in the KPRF is solely on you.

>>2831374
>the state that still has a communist party
You might as well argue the same for much of the west, but something tells me you won't.
>>2831373
As opposed to turning a blind eye to Rusich and quoting Ivan Illyn? Why does Bankova cracking down on communists matter, but not the Kremlin doing the same to the KRPF? Why make a big deal about the OUN and Bandera, but not Kolchak, the Romanovs and Grigory Zass? Is it because admitting it's the same issue would collapse your entire Manichaeist worldview?

Seems like this recent increase in Ukrainian attacks suspiciously close to NATO airspace and Western MSM glazing such attacks as table turning is intended to place civic pressure on the Russian state to accept Zelensky’s renewed demand to givas ceasefire, which if granted would be a miracle for Ukraine right now as the Russian military has apparently breached the last major urban settlement in Donetsk oblast.

I question the efficacy of this though, because surely the all but confirmed use of NATO airspace serves only to vindicate the Russian state’s assertion that NATO does indeed pose an intentional threat to Russia, something NATO and NAFOids have denied for years.

The biggest irony is that Finland appears to already be a part of this corridor for Ukrainian drones so soon after joining NATO, posing the exact same threat to St Petersburg that ultimately sparked the Winter War and yet we’re to expect that Russians are to sympathise with a shitty drone re-enactment of the Siege of Leningrad and demand Putin surrender to NATO, because….?

And do read the open letter to Putin that Zelensky posted to Xitter, it's probably the most "the emperor has no clothes on" moment he's had in this entire conflict. It's page after page of making assertions that either aren't true, are irrelevant or are vastly more applicable to Ukraine.

I'd greentext some highlights but honestly the entire thread is just a list of all the things that Zelensky needs to be true for tearing up the peace deal in 2022 to have been remotely worth it.
As a taster I'd offer
>We brought the war onto your territory, and you would not have been able to cope with it without North Korea’s help. You are the first ruler of Russia to turn to Pyongyang for assistance
simply because it demonstrates how self-destructive Ukraine's mindset is; there's the peremoga of "We brought the war onto your territory" followed by the non-admission of defeat of "and you would not have been able to cope with it" and finally bizarre chauvinism despite being defeated with "You are the first ruler of Russia to turn to Pyongyang for assistance".

That's no doubt a sick burn according to people who are already support Zelensky specifically, but for anyone else (especially the Russian population this open letter is actually directed at) it just sounds like he's a bit of a pointless cunt, which is not what you want if you're petitioning them to demand surrender. If I was pro-Ukrainian and I rightfully had my reservations about Zelensky's leadership (as so many do), then I'd find him mentioning Kursk at all to be concerning, let alone his refusal to accept it was a poor idea.

Putinista bros?

>>2831376
Why no nazi in nordics? Finland literally sieged Leningrad.

what's this about a cuck shed being hit by an oreshnik somewhere? has the last glove finally come off?

>>2831684
Bro literally is about to agree peace with Ukraine, the ones he was calling nazis and not democratically elected lol

>>2831622
so Ukraine gets unprecedented amounts of assistance at every level from the West, so they can lose slowly rather than quickly, and that shows ebin resilience and is a virtuous triumph.
Meanwhile, Russia has gotten some (rather marginal) help from one of its friends and that's an embarrassing disgrace somehow. Zelensky should retire already. His term expired a while ago and he's drunk.

>>2831415
This is how fascism was originally born In a way lmao

>>2831413
absolutely.

>>2831457
>You might as well argue the same for much of the west, but something tells me you won't.
oh yes, many western countries need a de-nazification process, too.
but this time Russia won't be saving europe from them. why? so europe gets salty again and pretend they were the bad guys?
and I bet you aren't ready for that conversation either.
> to Rusich
Rusich doesn't get the head of the state honoring them, praising them, giving them medals.
cope.

>>2831377
>second most powerful
<at 4% numbers of deputees in parliament

This is lower than Japan, IIRC

>>2831815
>>2831377
Oh, sorry. Google says it's ~13%. Well, I was misled by the Communist presidential candidate having very low numbers

>>2831772
>de-nazification
You mean the one that involves hitting infrastructure instead of prominent known nazis? Dmytro Yarosh status? Oleh Tyahnybok status?
>Rusich doesn't get the head of the state honoring them, praising them, giving them medals.
No they honor the Romanovs, Ivan Illyn and Grigory Zass instead kek.
Anyway, how many neonazi groups did the Soviets have fighting for them?

>>2831894
You really think worshipping genocidal fascists is the same as espousing sympathy for a deposed monarch?

the US house just voted on the latest ukraine givas bill. Passed 226 to 195.
One single democrat (1) voted against it, Ilhan Omar.

>>2831897
Remind me of what happened to the Circassians?

>>2831900
Russian Empire was genocidal, yeah. USSR wasn't, though

>>2831900
>No they honor the Romanovs
We’re talking about this part

Five Russian cargo ships hit by Ukrainian drones

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/1txg1d6/ukrainian_usf_hit_five_ships_in_the_ports_of/

Hitler's worst crime might actually have been not following through with Generalplan Ost and genociding the P*les/B*lts/Cz*chs/H*hols

>>2831932
Five of those were foreign owned and crewed

Suspected Ukrainian drone explodes in Romanian port
>The unmanned vessel, resembling the MAGURA V5 model used by Kiev, detonated near Constanta’s oil terminal, while more drones have been reported in the area
https://swentr.site/russia/641038-romania-port-drone-explosion/

Yes hitting random civilian ships is absolutely flawless, scattergunning the oceans with drones is a brilliant idea when you’re not subject to international law.

I fell into a coma on january 6 2022. Can someone tell me who is winning?

I don’t think you can put Ukraine back in its box after this btw, I don’t see how you can give ultranationalists immunity based on their own victimhood narrative during the conflict and then expect to rescind that after its conclusion.

Say the conflict ends officially but you still get tankers being blown up and naval drones crashing into civilian ports, what’s NATO going to do? How do they police the seas and the skies without making Ukraine public enemy no.1?

>>2831955
The NATO-Russo Coalition has successfully contained the growing power of Ukraine through privatization, and war respectively.

>>2831959
I think Ukraine can still win against the Krauto-Mongol hordes

>>2831772
>Rusich doesn't get the head of the state honoring them, praising them, giving them medals.
it's a matter of time. if they become useful they will be treated like the neo-nazi wagnerites used to be

>>2831963
It hasn’t happened, but you’re certain that it could happen and so it has happened.

Ukraine collapse status?

Zelensky's latest message's first letters combine into "save me"

Zelensky is gonna concede

>>2831963
a guy who's dead, a guy who barely made it into politics, a guy who only western retort, in a country where nazism has only been influenced by the west, and its intelligence countries.
find better material.

>>2831938
"I'm totally a leftist, but Hitler didn't go far enough!!"