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>>2822624I'm sure many East Germans are very decent people.
>>2822625>>2822628The BBC are not the only outlet to have reported on the treatment of Uyghurs:
>United Nations' human rights experts voiced alarm on Thursday over alleged Chinese political re-education camps for Muslim Uighurs and they called for the immediate release of those detained on the "pretext of countering terrorism".https://www.reuters.com/article/world/un-calls-on-china-to-free-uighurs-from-alleged-re-education-camps-idUSKCN1LF1EP/Surely it is bad to mass detain people based on their ethnicity or religion. Whether the US does this, or China does this, or any other country. We should hold every country to the same standard, right?
>>2822627I just want to see peace and I don't want to see any country (US, Russia, China, or anyone else) taking over foreign territory with military force.
>>2822631If there are errors then they could be honest mistakes rather than deliberate lies. You're jumping to a conclusion.
>>2822632You are not random people, Koti. You are a Schreibtischtäter.
>>2822635>If there are errors then they could be honest mistakes rather than deliberate liesI'm doing you a favour and assume you're kinda naive so you're unable to see contradictions, logical fallacies and more than often plain lies that articles in western mainstream media such as BBC consist of. The people employed there are no reporters, they are "journalists" who apparently believe that all their readers are stupid cattle or they simply do only care about appealing to the CIA, MI6 and oligarchs who pay them to vent Stürmer type bullshit at us.
I recommend "Propaganda" by Edward Bernays and Noam Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" if you really have no idea.
>>2822644>GazaI am no fan at all of what Israel has done to Gaza and Palestine in general. I think Israel should never have attacked civilians in Palestine. Israel should respect the internationally recognised borders, and Israel should recognise the state of Palestine. They should obviously stop Israeli settlers trying to colonise the West Bank.
I dislike the current governments of both Israel and China. They both seem to be pretty authoritarian and draconian. Although yes, Israel's current government has surely killed far more civilians in recent years, so on that measure, Israel's government is worse. That doesn't mean China's government is amazing though.
>>2822648no you fucking coward, show me where the 'genocide' happened, you don't actually dislike China, you've just huffed a bunch of bullshit about it and make false equivalence because you're an intellectual coward.
>>2822652try actually talking to a moderate uygha you'd quickly learn they support China because the people who got re-educated where the people running across the border during the gulf wars who then went on to suicide bomb uygha village elders for not wanting to secede from a government that provides them material benefits and stability.
>NAFOids successfully derailed the thread
>>2822654illia is such a moron.
>>2822620is this really it? is this is the apocalyptic droning of kiev i've been hearing about?
>>2822679you think they're going to reveal military targets or what?
>>2822682there's no military targets in cities, it's all a farce. if you don't get it at this point you never will
is nafo really saying that Yanukovich was ousted by the Rada? all honky dory, and shit?
LMAO
the only way the Rada could have ousted Yanukovich was if there was an investigation commission (there was none), a review by the Constitutional Supreme Court (there was none), and formal charges of treason or other crimes were presented (there was none).
In fact, the Rada argued on the basis that Yanukovich 'removed himself from fulfilling his constitutional duties' LMAOOOOOO and didn't even met the 338 votes in favor needed to approve the motion (it gathered 328 votes only, short by ten votes).
this is some serious level of historical revision, as insane as saying that ukraine doesn't have a serious nazi problem rooted in the military.
>>2822694consider:
* russian terror campaign is pathetic
*boasting about blowing up a mcdonalds is even more pathetic
>>2822694remember when they crying tears in October-December because Russia left them without lights across the borderlands?
>muh it's all a farce. >>2822635>ReutersRepeating the 1 million in camps lie that was already debunked years ago that was pushed by Americans and Al-Qaeda. Apparently you can interview 8 random people and conclude that a million people were thrown into camps from 8 random interviews.
All Western media lies. All Western media are staffed by liars. And those who believe them are the worst for continuing to perpetuate those lies.
>>2822697Russia isn't doing a terror campaign, that could actually work. Russia does stand-off attacks against random targets and then runs to see if Zelensky is ready to capitulate this time; rinse and repeat once a month or so. I actually think I'm done carrying water for Russia, I'm just anti-Ukrainian now.
That said I hope a holodomor museum is next
>>2822705Russia doesn't need to carry a terror campaign on the average ukrainian.
kiev's regime is good enough doing that.
>>2822705>stand-off attacks against random targetsrussia sprays and preys. you can only boast about mcdiddy's because the other hits were commieblocks and it's still not political (at least on here) to boast about war crimes
>commie
the chud once again losses his cover. he comes here to troll, malds enough to reveal his chinlet figure.
>preys
You're all arguing with a twitter obsessed brainlet
>first one gets personally offended by 'commie' in 'commieblock'
>the other by 'pray' in 'spray and pray'
third world was a mistake
>>2822705>I actually think I'm done carrying water for Russia, I'm just anti-Ukrainian nowFinally Ushanka anon has seen the light of Putin's constant cuckoldry and has thrown in with the side of reason and sanity. Nuke Kiev
NOW.
>>2822647I think BBC journalists are reporters. I like the BBC's Russia Editor, Steve Rosenberg. He is one of the few western journalists remaining in Russia. He asks difficult questions to Putin.
Surely journalistic freedom is good? Surely asking difficult questions to powerful leaders is good? I think that serves ordinary people and working people better. Otherwise we would only have authoritarian leaders to listen to. Do you think that's better? Should we take authoritarian leaders at their word and never question them?
>>2822652>>2822653I don't know whether China's treatment of Uyghurs amounts to "genocide".
>you don't actually dislike China, you've just huffed a bunch of bullshit about itI don't have anything against Chinese people. I hope to cooperate with Chinese people. I'm just not a big fan of the PRC government.
>try actually talking to a moderate uygha you'd quickly learn they support China because the people who got re-educated where the people running across the border during the gulf wars who then went on to suicide bomb uygha village eldersI just saw this from Amnesty International, saying that up to a million Uyghurs have been put in camps:
>hundreds of thousands who have been sent to prisons in addition to hundreds of thousands – perhaps even a million or more – who have been sent to internment campshttps://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/china-draconian-repression-of-muslims-in-xinjiang-amounts-to-crimes-against-humanity/Are you saying all of those million people are suicide bombers? Also do you think it would be justified if the US put all of its Muslim population into re-education camps without due process? We shouldn't detain people based on religion. Of course suicide bombing is something that should be tackled. But that doesn't mean we should scapegoat all Muslims.
>>2822692Look at this:
>The vote to "remove Viktor Yanukovych from the post of president of Ukraine" was passed by 328 MPs.>Such ballots, passed by what is called constitutional majority, are binding and enter into force with immediate effecthttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304842Also, even if you disagree with the process, that doesn't justify Russia's invasion of Ukraine. For example, if a country dislikes the fact that the FSB poisoned Alexei Navalny (thus interfering with Russian "democracy"), would that country be justified to invade Russia and overthrow its government?
One country might feel another country hasn't respected their own laws. Okay. That doesn't justify the first country invading the second country.
>>2822762>accepts the fucking british media as a trustworthy source of truth.Article 111 of the Ukrainian constitution:
>The decision to remove the President of Ukraine from office by impeachment shall be made by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine by no less than three-fourths of its constitutional composition after the Constitutional Court of Ukraine has reviewed the case and received its opinion on compliance with the constitutional procedure for investigating and considering the impeachment case and after receiving the opinion of the Supreme Court that the acts of which the President of Ukraine is accused contain elements of high treason or another crime.https://constitution.in.ua/articles/111/The Rada must have always 450 deputies (minus 4 because they were removed, sanctioned, under investigation etc., and EVEN FUCKING SO, MATHS AIN'T MATHING)
3/4 of 450 is 338, no 328. Even if you take into account 446,
THAT'S ONLY 335 VOTES.
See? that happens when come here without knowing shit.
gtfo, moron.
>>2822762>that doesn't justify Russia's invasion of Ukrainealso, thanks for moving the goalpost in one reply. dunce.
>>2822776>>2822777One country might feel another country hasn't respected their own laws. Okay. That doesn't justify the first country invading the second country.
A clear majority of MPs in the Rada voted to remove Yanukovych. I don't think you can call that a "coup", whether it was a vote that conformed with specific rules or not.
>>2822735>third world was a mistakeMore like your education was a mistake if you have trouble choosing the right vowel for a four letter word, lmao.
>>2822794>the US ambassador in ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt and Victoria Nuland, like mafia boss, were approving or disapproving what positions should be held by whoDid the Rada take any notice of those opinions?
>COUPThe only reason you're calling it a coup is because you're trying to justify Russia's fascist imperialist invasion of Ukraine. How Ukraine manages their elections and leaders is none of Russia's business.
oh wow, it's 2022 all over again. we are questioning if 2014 was a coup.
I guess these people also justified 'an invasion' in 2015:
>Miloš Zeman (Czech Republic): The former president of the Czech Republic was unequivocal in his assessment. In January 2015, he stated that he did not believe the February coup was a democratic revolution, saying, "Maidan was not a democratic revolution" and that the unrest resulted in "a coup that toppled Yanukovich"https://www.rt.com/news/219595-ukraine-prime-minister-war/amp/>Marcel de Graaff (Netherlands): A Dutch MEP, he also referenced the "February 2014 coup" when describing the political situation in Ukrainehttps://www.rt.com/news/584773-european-parliament-ukraine-roundtable/>Jean-Luc Schaffhauser (France): This French MEP stated in 2015 that a "state coup" occurred in Ukraine in February 2014 and that it was organized by US intelligence serviceshttps://glav.su/forum/threads/91219>Matteo Salvini (Italy): 2018, The Italian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of the Interior has been very direct, labeling the event a "state coup" and referring to the subsequent government as a "pseudo-revolution, sponsored by foreign states"https://www.news2.ru/story/549825/comment2189385/5
>How Ukraine manages their elections and leaders is none of Russia's business.I agree. Based Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea for declaring sovereignty and self-determination over the nazi regime in kiev after Yanukovich was couped.
>>2822757>I don't know whether China's treatment of Uyghurs amounts to "genocide".Well I do, and it doesn't. Hit the subscribe button to hear more facts from the real world.
>>2822806>rt.comPropaganda outlet.
>Based Luhansk, Donetsk and Crimea for declaring sovereignty and self-determination over the nazi regime in kiev after Yanukovich was coupedCrimea was invaded by Russian soldiers who took over the area by force. Luhansk and Donetsk were taken over by force by rebels who were armed and supported by Russia. They held "referendums" which do not appear to have been free or fair. Supporters of the Donbas remaining Ukrainian appear to have been intimidated by the armed pro-Russia rebels:
>After enduring hours of beatings at the hands of these pro-Russian insurgents, Mr Bida decided to flee the Ukrainian city of Luhansk.>“It’s not safe to be in Luhansk for those who oppose the pro-Russian activists,” he said. https://archive.is/Uyjxa >>2822826>They held "referendums" which do not appear to have been free or fair. Unlike the post-Maidan 2014 election, right? Where millions of voters were disenfranchised, because they said the citizens in occupied areas couldn't vote. Turnout in Luhansk was ~14% iirc. Meanwhile in Lviv and other western regions it was 70+%.
The COMPLETE LACK of partisan activity and any kind of insurgency in the occupied areas tells you all you need to know about what the people living there want. There is partisan and anti-TCC activity in Ukraine, though. Zelenskyy's approval rating is below 40%. Free and fair. I love democracy.
>>2821989100%.
Putin should just Tsar bomb Kiev and be done with it.
>>2822847You mean the civilians that Azov forced to stay in the city? Azovites used the "Russians" as literal human shields. Russia opened humanitarian corridors for civilians in Mariupol.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220404-russia-opens-humanitarian-corridor-for-civilians-in-mariupol-at-turkiyes-initiative/>pic>"deti"Where are the children though? Instead of writing "kids", they could have brought them out in front of the theatre. It took them some time to write that, they could have taken a photo of these supposed children.
There were civilians in Mariupol, and if you bothered to look, you could easily find their testimony about who abused them and who liberated them.
Ukrainians committed the killings in Bucha, too. But keep defending them, bro. I'm sure you won't regret it in 20 years.
Read this before watching the video.
>Zelensky has said that his great-grandfather and three of his grandfather’s brothers died as a result of the Nazi invasion of Ukrainian territory. His grandfather and his grandfather’s brothers took up arms against the Nazis in the Red Army; his grandfather was the only one to survive. He did not specify whether they died in combat or in the extended massacre of more than 1 million Ukrainian Jews that the Nazis carried out, often with local collaboration.https://www.timesofisrael.com/18-things-to-know-about-jewish-defender-of-ukrainian-democracy-volodymyr-zelensky/>Following the factional split, Melnyk continued to direct the OUN-M to collaborate with Nazi Germany during the German invasion of the Soviet Union on the Eastern Front. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Melnyk_(officer)>Video:<President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy took part in the reburial ceremony at the National Military Memorial Cemetery of Colonel of the Ukrainian People’s Republic Army and Head of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, Andriy Melnyk, and his wife Sofia Fedak-Melnyk.https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/prezident-uzyav-uchast-u-ceremoniyi-perepohovannya-andriya-m-104577Zelenskyy is beholden to the neo-nazis. If he doesn't do what they tell him, they'll just kill him. He's surrounded by Azov/Right Sector loyalists.
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