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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<Biggest Threat Edition


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💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
• Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
• database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
• list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
• ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
• US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

• 📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
• 📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
• 📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
• 📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
• 📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
• 📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

• Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
• AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
• Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
• IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
• IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
• ▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

• deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
• Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
• Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
• /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
• More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
• Visualization of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
• UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
• First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

• CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
• Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
• Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
• Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

• Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/~~
• Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
• The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
• Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
• Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

• Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
• DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
• Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
• Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

• 📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
• 📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
• 📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
• 📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
• 📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• 📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
• 📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
• 📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
• 📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
• 📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
• 📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Which side are you on? - Pete Seeger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE

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>>2835473
He doesn’t need to do all that for the latter part of your statement to be true. The fact that we are talking about an electoralist is enough.

How the Libertarian Movement Missed the Authoritarian Moment

https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/how-the-libertarian-movement-missed

This is a longform interview with Shikha Dalmia of The Unpopulist/Institute for the Study of Modern Authoritarianism. To give some background on Shikha Dalmia, she worked at Reason Magazine, however her anti-Trump stance proved to be a step out of line for Reason which is why she has been raising the alarm regarding right-wing cancel culture and authoritarianism which has been dangerously overlooked, even more so from many "libertarians" who were able to spot authoritarianism with an eagle eye from healthcare reform to campus speech restrictions but were not able to do the same for Trump whose authoritarianism has been blatant.

Here are the highlights below, the rest of the article can be found in the link above.

Shikha on her break with libertarianism

My break with libertarianism happened when Trump arrived on the scene. I was working at Reason magazine at that time and, the minute Trump came down the golden escalator, it was clear to me that he was a different kind of politician: he was a demagogue and an authoritarian, he didn’t really understand liberalism, and he didn’t understand America’s core commitments. He was closer to demagogues that I had seen in India, like Narendra Modi, who preceded Trump by a few years. Given this, I was a little bit more sensitized to demagogues in general and Trump in particular, so it was pretty clear to me that the libertarians around me were just not seeing him as the same kind of threat as I was.

In fact, there was general chuckling at the way he was sticking his finger in the eye of the left and going after liberals. It is not that libertarians were completely unconcerned about Trump; it’s that they were just not taking the threat seriously. They were treating him as a normal politician, just bad in a different kind of way and, at best, maybe a corrective to the excesses of the left. This chasm between me and libertarian circles just kept growing, and it was getting hard to get my point of view taken seriously.

On Libertarian Hypocrisy

Before Trump, libertarians would start warning of slippery slopes at a president’s use of the state for any goal. I, personally, wrote a gazillion pieces about Obama and Obamacare and how it represented a “road to serfdom,” in Hayek’s famous phrase, because it involved forcing people to buy healthcare. I wrote a piece encouraging a civil disobedience movement against Obamacare’s mandate. The thought was if a president can force you to do this, what else would be required?

But Trump was infinitely worse than any of them—in a league of his own—and I just didn’t see the alarm. He didn’t even bother to couch his agenda in some high-minded language. He divided the population into “us versus them” and promised to use the draconian powers of the state to help “us” and hurt “them”—a complete violation of the fundamental neutrality of the state, which is a basic commitment of liberal governance—and libertarians merely shrugged.

That got me thinking: Why is this? The reasons are partly political, partly sociological, and partly theoretical. Politically, since libertarianism arose in the heyday of the Cold War and made an alliance with socially conservative traditionalists and neo-conservative foreign policy hawks, it got inflected with a certain right-wing flavor. Libertarians became so attuned to fighting the leftist threat abroad that, once Communism fell, like the rest of the right, they had to find a new leftist threat at home, which primed them to be receptive to Trump’s message and his preoccupation with the leftist enemy.

The Difference Between the Far-Right and Problematic Social Justice

When I was in my libertarian days, I wrote my share of columns against the progressive left, arguing that there have been so many excesses and stupid notions that they have flirted with. I remember, at one time, there was this push for something called “affirmative consent,” the idea that, given the differential power structure between men and women, men can never assume that women are consenting at any stage of the sexual act until they have obtained affirmative consent. I wrote a piece pointing out how stupid this whole idea was, and I got attacked in Jezebel as somebody who likes being raped, so I’m very familiar with these leftist excesses.

However, I still think that leftists very often have the right cause; their means are just over the top and illiberal. Whereas with the right, I think both their ends and their means are illiberal. Basically, the progressive insight is that individual self-actualization requires certain conditions to be achieved. In societies riddled with say, class, caste, gender, and racial hierarchies, members of those groups can’t actualize themselves without first jettisoning systems of oppression and exploitation. Moreover, in any society, no matter how lofty its principles, the initial distribution of rights and privileges always favors dominant and powerful groups. So, the important task for any liberal society is to dedicate itself to creating a level playing field by dismantling these structures and make the systems work in a neutral, impartial, fair, and non-oppressive fashion for all.

America has been constituted on the notion of freedom and individual liberty for all. Yet racial slavery continued for 100 years after its founding and the structures and legacies of racism persist to this day. To the extent that groups have been subjugated and oppressed by virtue of immutable characteristics, whether that is race, gender, sex, or sexuality, this discrimination has to be challenged collectively, otherwise we cannot achieve individual freedom or actualization. So, progressives are right about that. Where the problem emerges is when they embrace illiberal means or they don’t want to make the political case for their cause and bring people along. They are in a hurry because these injustices are so intolerable that they want results now.

But, for all the social levers that the woke left has used to accomplish its causes, it has never become powerful enough to control the levers of the state in the way the right has. Hence, the excesses of these progressives can be fought through normal liberal channels, and we have seen that happen repeatedly. For example, on the issue of gay rights, religious conservatives have won a number of victories, like obtaining religious exemptions for businesses who wish to refuse baking cakes for gay marriages because doing so goes against their conscience. The left can be a problem but, until you’ve got a Jacobin takeover of this state, I’m less worried about them.

>>2835117
>single men yanking it is more morally reprehensible than state-endorsed revenge killings
Are amerilards aware at all how bloodthirsty they really are?


>Gallup Polling in the year 2026

>>2835491
>killing yourself: :(
>dealing with medical beuracracy before killing yourself: :)
All these polls do for me is harden my resolve that Americans shouldn't be allowed to vote

>>2835494
If you think Americans are a rare group that opposes suicide you are very naive. Most of the world sees it as morally wrong. Especially all your based socialist and left wing countries too

>>2835497
I was commenting on the fact that telling doctors three times that you're going to kill yourself is strangely more morally acceptable than doing it yourself

>>2835499
that's also normal,because then there is a process where you have to let people knows what you're doing and giving yourself a possible out before doing it

>>2835517
ok thanks for the reminder see you again tomorrow

>>2835408
>These people are just choosing the easiest path to escape a life of misery. If any of you had the opportunity you would take it too. We should respect workers utilizing their agency to escape suffering on their own terms, even if there are issues that must be ironed out in the long term.
You can also apply this reasoning to drug dealing, mugging, enslaving, being a overseer, cop or glowie, etc

>>2835473
i never claimed he would create the 4th reich, or even said that people shouldn't vote for him. i just thought it was kinda of retarded to fall for yet another "progressive" dem especially one that did 4 tours of duty in 2 zionist wars and then went on to work for blackwater and marry into an AIPAC family. he uses fetterman's campaign agency even. like come on. vote for him but admit i was wright when you get rugpulled. don't move the goalposts and pretend like we were actually saying he would start the 4th reich… america is already the 4th reich and has been for decades.

>>2835484
>However, I still think that leftists very often have the right cause; their means are just over the top and illiberal. Whereas with the right, I think both their ends and their means are illiberal. Basically, the progressive insight is that individual self-actualization requires certain conditions to be achieved. In societies riddled with say, class, caste, gender, and racial hierarchies, members of those groups can’t actualize themselves without first jettisoning systems of oppression and exploitation. Moreover, in any society, no matter how lofty its principles, the initial distribution of rights and privileges always favors dominant and powerful groups. So, the important task for any liberal society is to dedicate itself to creating a level playing field by dismantling these structures and make the systems work in a neutral, impartial, fair, and non-oppressive fashion for all.
>for all the social levers that the woke left has used to accomplish its causes, it has never become powerful enough to control the levers of the state in the way the right has.
It's always funny how liberals are able to, in theory, deduce some form of socialism/communism, and dotp, from first principles and then do nothing with this analysis.

>>2835544
they reinvent those ideas when forced to think hard because they are historically behind. they are living fossils

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>>2835544
Every non-cucked libertarian is one book away from Marxism. Or at least I think so, since I used to be a libertarian until I read more leftist thought

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America is morphing into a radically Pro-Rape country

>>2835608
Susan Collins voted to invade Iraq so idc

>>2835608
>morphing into a radically Pro-Rape country
>morphing

>>2835555
audible lol'd from that graham platner

>>2835609
Platner invaded Iraq.

>>2835608
DON"T BE MEAN TO NAZDEMSOC GANG

>>2835582
In my experience there are two kinds of libertarians. The kind that genuinely believe that philosophy is a path to human liberation, and the kind that think the market is a better tool than the state for enacting social Darwinism. The former eventually become socialists, the latter eventually become fascists (or rather, already are).

>>2835608
Any allegation of misconduct is now seen as coordinated character assassination coming from the opposition. People accepted that all politicians are pieces of shit, and all they care about is who will hurt the opposition more

>>2835461
NAZDEMSOCGANG WON!

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>>2835612
which was only made possible through Susan Collins voting for Iraq to be invaded in the Senate. stop running interference for the imperialist bourgeoise

>>2835618
>Any allegation of misconduct is now seen as coordinated character assassination coming from the opposition.
For months, /usa/ anons has been doing nothing buy copy and pasting the mainstream dem's talking points from there obvious smear campaign.
why the fuck were the suck-up (on this thread) talking about just this one dem alone and not even just ignore them like the other fucks did already with the other two dem candidates on the race that most likely sucked more in comparison to another basic reformist like zoran (best case scenario).

>>2835473
NAZDEMSOC GANG SHALL BEE THE 4TH INTERNATIONAL

>>2835608
Americans found out that everyone in power is a zionist child rapist and cannibal.
No one gave a fuck. Whats one more honestly? People that have strong opinions of Platner are usually liberals, idpol brained, etc etc

>>2835623
This.
The story is true.

>>2835612
i can't be be-leave the country of Platner invaded Iraq; sad.

>>2835358
You realize fetishises arent just inherent thing people are born with, they develope.
These "size queens" as you call them are most likely traumatized by whatever heinous acts occurred to them (this is unfortunately the case of most women).

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There is not a single ally in Amerikkka that won't stab you in the back. You're better off fighting against them

>>2835624
Platner would have made a good opportunity to make a case study of political capture, progressivism and controversy marketing. It's unfortunate that his reddit posts and personal history took the main stage of the discussion.

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fox freaking out

>>2835618
Lots of metoo and post metoo era sexual assault allegations being bullshit probably did play a non negligible part

>>2835538
YOU"RE A STINKY FACE THAT HAVE BEEN INDIRECTLY SUPPORTING HOT ZIONIST OLD LADY PUSSY! (100% UNDERSTANDABLE, GILF PUSSY IS GREAT!)
NOW NAZDEMSOC GANG HAS WON INSTEAD!

>>2835635
good.
>fox
they Have defended far worse people that have ties to Jeffrey lil st james

Hey, Goldfaggots why is this happened?

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Can i brorrow a Thoughts?

>>2835636
I still remember how the media blew up mattress girl’s weird art piece and somehow found like the one fraternity in America where the rape allegations were false

>>2835627
>People that have strong opinions of Platner are usually liberals, idpol brained, etc etc
the only time i saw anything about being anti-planter was on the mainstream dem aligned news or users who are red/black radlibs on Twitter/BluSky


>>2835467
>just be a disappointing socdem sellout like AOC.
Literally the second God damn option aka just this at worse.
Are you anons here in /usa/ that much into following the leader that you're just follow what radlibs on twitter or bulesky have to say

>>2835499
possibly because, i know this might be wild, but i think people find differentiation between coming home and finding your relative's brains splattered over the walls, and having a relative with terminal illness deciding to give in peacefully after discussing it with you. Just a thought.

>>2835623
The Democrats are a party of the imperialist bourgeoisie.

>>2835651
so you prefer republicuck Susan Collins to win then got it

>>2835653
I have no preference because it doesn't matter which faction of the imperialist bourgeoisie wins. They're both class enemies with no progressive capacity that play a cooperative role in ensuring America moves further to the right every year.

>>2835660
>antifascist
if then dem r
so is the the republicuck
why singling when both sides r gay or the one guy that's the least war criminal-e

>>2835725
>Le enlightened centrism
Fuck off fash

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>>2835755
anon it's kinda retarded to fall for yet another "progressive" dem especially one that did 4 tours of duty in 2 zionist wars and then went on to work for blackwater and marry into an AIPAC family. he uses fetterman's campaign agency even. vote for him if you want but expect disappointment.


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