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>>2828233 Diddy
>>2830871midwestern MILF gazongas
I'm looking for a non-wikipedia reliable source on why michael harrington left the DSA. Felix says it was because he supported the vietnam war, but wikipedia says it was because the party shifted rightward. I want to investigate these claims.
>>2830898>>2830900He was never in favor of the Vietnam War, but he was the 1960's equivalent of a pedantic anti-campist as was the rest of the SPUSA and thus opposed the anti-war movement equally because it seemed too sympathetic to the Soviet Union. Yeah it was dumb shit but again it was a belief held by the rest of the SPUSA to distance themselves from the "Bolshevism" of the CPUSA. By the time he became chairman in 1970 he regretted his previous views and realized that it was just making the SPUSA turn rightward, the last straw being when they refused to provide any support for George McGovern due to being explicitly opposed to the Vietnam War. This led for Herrington to leave and form what would become the DSA
There's plenty to criticize the man over, being too sympathetic to liberalism and immensely stupid opinions about Israel being among them, but dude was no more anti-communist than Norman Thomas
>>2830905>He was never in favor of the Vietnam War, but he was the 1960's equivalent of a pedantic anti-campist as was the rest of the SPUSA and thus opposed the anti-war movement equally because it seemed too sympathetic to the Soviet Union. wow so he was imperialist but too stupid to realize it. that's somehow worse
>>2830905> it was a belief held by the rest of the SPUSA to distance themselves from the "Bolshevism" of the CPUSA.oh my fucking god
I'd just like to take this space to thank my CIA agent for their hard work sifting through all the horse porn and gore in order to figure out my niche political views
Let's give it up for the CIA everyone
>>2830896about 14 minutes in and none of this info surprises me, but it is a highly detailed account of just how fucked Louisiana has been for decades. Like I didn't know most of this stuff but it's not surprising me as I hear it.
>>2830905>>2830908>>2830910Seems like a great reason to seeth about the dsa in every thread
1960s very relevant to now
Also waiting on my chinese aid to my maoist party because their have been 0 changes in politics for the last 60 years
>>2830914Very fucked place, yet also curiously very neglected in spite of it’s strategic value to the rest of the country, with no sign of any plans for recovery or preservation.
god forbid the white house do something fun for once
>>2830918I was lmaoing at the idea of someone splitting from the CPUSA for being too bolshevik
>>2830924> still wont talk about impeachement because that would be divisivedonald trump has been impeached before. it doesn't mean anything. why do people still think impeachment means forced resignation? it's just a formal denunciation.
>>2830922next you'll be asking for a triump where nicolas maduro is dragged through the streets like vercingetorix and strangled in front of the temple of jupiter
>>2830924Why doesnt trump just suspend congress with the millitary
>>2830924>>2830932or for a matter of fact how come schumer hasn't been courting the military and defense establishment seems like a no-brainer from his perspective.
>>2830924>not a joint resolution, but a concurrent resolution (has no actual force of law)>senate won't approve it anywaySo basically a strongly worded letter. Wew democracy is saved. I can't wait for John Oliver to heckin own Blormpf next episode with an epic takedown about democracy.
>>2830944There's increasing bipartisan opposition to the Iran War, if for nothing else because it's been stupidly handled. I think there's a pretty good chance it passes the senate
>>2830932Same reason you don't put a cock cage on someone who has erectile dysfunction.
>>2830922>>2830944>>2830946General might say no because muh constitution
Look what happened in south korea
If the whole state aparatus isnt on board or at least willing to resume buisness as usual after a coup that shit ends pretty fucking quick
Would you want your carreer and life to end over a fat senile old pedofile who loves israeli cock?
>>2830925like it or not popular frontism and reformism were pushed by the soviet union upon communist parties during and following their part of WW2. bolshevization in this context meant following whatever the ussr's particular interest was, it was a big part of why the western maoists were maoists, the revolution seemed alive in china while the soviet union appeared as the capitalist roaders. now americans really have to stretch to get a foreign country for inspiration as seen by some people on this board claiming iran is "state socialist"
>>2830982this is why i agree with the chinese slogan that the egg cracked from the inside is new life and the egg cracked from the outside is food. if your communist party is seen as a 5th column for moscow or beijing americans will not see it as representing the american working class. but at the same time you have to resist the chauvinism and nationalism and be fundamentally internationalist in your approach to proletarian revolution. so the goal is to be internationalist and against reactionary patriotism while at the same time not being regarded as a 5th column for some other country. this is a difficult balancing act.
>>2830924Wrong. Trump veto it.
>>2830972Honestly at this point I'm not even sure Iran is willing to end the war, even if the US was really forced to pull back. From what I'm seeing, it looks like in the beginning the Iranians were unsure of themselves and willing to negotiate, but now that they know their leverage? I somewhat doubt it. They're in their Holy War against Israel now.
>>2831018It doesn't even *need* to get vetoed by the president, it's a concurrent resolution. It won't even reach his deck if the Senate passes it. It's worth less than the paper it's written on. Its a finger wagging by congress, that's it.
>>2831039and people fall for it anyways. "look we're resisting"
>>2831089What's the point of eating in these depressing buildings if there's no more free soda refills.
>>2830905This statement proves Harrington supported the war and also was an anti-Communist but you're too stupid to realize it.
He was a MASSIVE anti-Communist, too. Far more than you let on. The entire reason he created the DᛋᛋA is because he got into a feud with the "New Left" over the Port Huron Declaration and spent the rest of his life trying to destroy "authoritarian" anti-war and anti-imperialist movements.
Harrington is probably America's foremost wrecker, and the organization he built continues his legacy.
>>2831107no more free soda refills
no more playground to stuff your kid in while you stuff your face
trvly the burger reich has fallen
>>2831089Houdini is salivating like a dog looking at this
>>2831109Jizzing on putin status?
>>2831073also
>sexual contactsome of the other old reports are like an onion article now
How to fight back against Gen-Z socialism
>Something new is stirring on the left. A fresh crop of socialists want to remake the economy with price controls, hefty wealth taxes and a spree of nationalisations. Supercharged by fury over Gaza, they are winning voters at a formidable pace. Many rose to prominence only recently, like Zack Polanski, who leads the Green Party in Britain, or Zohran Mamdani, the mayor of New York. Others are long-standing political fixtures: the septuagenarian Jean-Luc Mélenchon is on his fourth swing at the French presidency, but thumping support from the 20-somethings of “Generation Z” has put the Elysée back in his sights again.
>No country’s Gen-Z socialists are quite alike. The realities of power have forced some, like Mr Mamdani, to become more moderate. But they broadly agree on three core principles. First, that growth does little to help ordinary people. Theirs is a zero-sum mindset, where a better outcome comes not from creating but from taking—as they fear ai barons will soon do on a vast scale. Second, that spending can be paid for by the richest. Once the left wanted higher taxes for everyone; Gen-Z socialists demand handouts funded by billionaires. The third tenet is a remarkable hostility to private enterprise. Gen-Z socialists are uninterested in letting the market rip and redistributing the proceeds. They would have chunks of everyday life, from housing to groceries, governed by state diktat.
>Resisting Gen-Z socialism is therefore an urgent task. The first step is for free-market liberals to stop apologising. A series of popular criticisms of capitalism, each containing a grain of truth, has in aggregate obscured the fundamental wisdom that private enterprise is at the root of human prosperity. Yes, people aren’t always rational, as behavioural economics shows. True, inequality matters and growth is better when broad-based. Free trade and globalisation create losers as well as winners. But this is the best time in human history to be born, given record real incomes, high life expectancy and low rates of extreme poverty. A punchier defence of capitalism would work better in the social-media age than hand-wringing by uncharismatic centrists like Sir Keir Starmer.https://archive.ph/k66hr >>2831249
And the post
>>2831238>a zero-sum mindset, where a better outcome comes not from creating but from takinglmfao, that's literally a description of porky
>>2831262
uygha you cant even bothered to show up to a dsa meeting to "verbal ambush "them in person you are a clown, now go buy more bullets from iwi to pose with online
>>2831266Every accusation a confession
>>2831275
Im sure you are equally larpy
You aint doing now shut your mouth
>>2831275
all you have to say is:
>don't join the reformists
>attack the reformists
>build an independent militant working class party that actually aims to seize power and not win elections
those are your three strongest points, and they should be said over and over. but this gets very boring to say over and over so instead you do this confrontational accusatory prosecutorial thing where you take an antagonistic tone and are like "you and your comrades" every time some news about the reformist orgs are brought up. i'm sure this gets you the attention you want on the imageboard but does it bring you any closer to realizing the actual important goals you have identified? please answer the question mark and do not simply repeat your theses for the 1000th time.
>>2831238welcome back utopian socialism
>The first step is for free market liberals to stop apologizingwho's gonna tell xir about imminent critique?
>>2831238You see these articles every year or so and they always amount to “make a tacit acknowledgement there are problems but insist ‘this is not who we are’” and point to some vague “education” as a solution
>>2831275
No because felix is the only one every else is a nazi keep up
>>2831249
Felix, take your NPD meds
DNC fixation on Platner status?
>>2831282conservatives antagonize everyone who wants to change society
liberals pretend to antagonize conservatives while secretly being conservative
socdems pretend to antagonize liberals while secretly being liberals
MLs pretend to antagonize socdems while secretly being socdems
leftcoms pretend to antagonize MLs while secretly being MLs
the circle of cringe
>>2831378So by extension, anarchists pretend to antagonize leftcoms while secretly being leftcoms, therefor being the real MLs and the heirs to Marx and Lenin
>>2831282I’d argue a party which seems incapable of even winning elections will be view dismally by the masses when it comes time to win power.
>>2831089>all glass wallsbut of course! I want everyone outside, not only those inside, watching me eat.
>>2831372no one ever hated mamdani. they just said he wasn't useful to our greater struggle and would be a waste of time if we treated him as our messiah as the prog libs/ soc dems have. he will not aid our goal of ending capitalism in any way. he is nothing to us.
now, one might say that he's done a lot, and while he has been more effective and attentive to people than your typical bourgeois career politician failure, in reality, what he has done is merely put a band aid on real struggle. he's made things better yes, but its all temporary. you think punishing a few landlords ends exploitation? once he's gone all the bullshittery will start coming back. actually it will have never even truly gone away in the first place. its like teddy Roosevelt's antitrust deals. breaking up monopolies, without addressing the root cause of the problems, or without creating a system that prevents this kind of stuff from coming back. all this does is make life better, but under the same system, if anything that helps capitalism more by having people take this small win and not doing anything further.
>>2831432not surprised at all. typical with vets. either way he's got the election in the bag. at least it'll be funny to see how a certain influencer clique bend themselves over backwards to downplay it. remember when they ostracized a lawyer for the same thing?
>>2831432Andrea LaFlamme is an actual progressive who unlike Platner didn't fight as a mercenary in the Middle East nor has any Nazi tattoos, if you're in Maine I strongly encourage you to support her
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/data-center-battle-exposes-michigan-democrats-slide-to-the-right/Funny how cpusa devote resources crying because democrats building data centers, like data centers are right wing in principle, like china doesnt have data centers. Like they attach themselves to token things that only dumbasses care about such as data center because the treats and slandering socialist and people government and towing zioline are more important than internationalism. Cpusa cares more about data centers than helping venezuelan or iranian. In fact, cpusa attack venezuela and iran. In doing so, Cpusa support trump. Cpusa is blue maga. Cpusa refuse to commune with hamas or houthi. Cpusa cry about data center like ted k. Cpusa pathetic
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/former-diplomat-alex-saab-extradited-by-venezuela-to-the-u-s/https://www.cpusa.org/article/joint-statement-of-the-communist-parties-of-iran-tudeh-israel-cpi-and-the-u-s-cpusa/ >>2831432nothing else worked so now they gotta pull the "anonymous SA accuser" card huh
>>2831372All that is fake news. Ziohran threatened to withold worker pension and then restructured worker pensions to pay less. Ziohran balance state budget by taking loan from trump and theil. That why they meet in whitehouse. Snow worker didnt get paid for 12 weeks. Ziohran solve crime by arrested record number of anti zioprotester. Every boast hitlerite and ziohranite make prove them wrong.
>>2831359Platner runs for the dnc. Platner is a democrat. Dnc allow platner to run.
>>2831462Give up, dick rider. Platner raped women and groomed children. You are epstein. We all know platner managed abu ghraib, yet here you are supporting him. You know you are wrong. Give it up.
>>2831475
Then shoot him already and stop bitching here
>>2831462platner will win, become another fetterman, and then you'll move on to the next shiny new reformist who is totally a socialist trust me
>>2831490Assuming he also doesn’t have a stroke, Platner is going to replace the spoiler role Joe Manchin and Kristen Cinema played
>>2831485
You realize torture is neither effective nor moral under any circumstances right? No matter how correcr your political opinions are you need to exorcise the bloodlust and vengeance. That’s American; neoconservative, reactionary.
>>2831485
you're actually hilarious, we should get a patreon so you can post more
>>2831492yes, the old rotating villain strategy that the party uses is alive and well. i also and enjoying this strategy of the media distracting from his actual record of imperialism with random allegations of sexual assault. This is to corner the democrats into defending their own "problematics" so they look like hypocrites when going after the Epstein situation. Meanwhile, conveniently, his actual confirmed record of imperialism will be swept under the rug and never discussed again.
>>2831498he has articles already
So comrades, I just got finished reading Marx
When's the revolution? I'm also down with some weed smoking, if you catch my drift
>>2831497Morality is practical, every harm you do to other people harms you, it’s like gravity
>>2831502And can this new found law of gravity be measured
>>2831502the correct argument against torture that doesn't appeal to morality (the philosophical expression of subjective distaste) is that it is neither a reliable way to extract high quality information, nor does it really deter the people you are trying to make afraid of you. on the contrary, torture only is good for extracting false confessions, from innocent people, or for getting people to make up random information to make the torture stop. Similarly, since most people of all classes find torture distasteful, and likely will continue to for the foreseeable future, it is bad for an organizations's public relations, and may even make enemies of former allies.
>>2831503Not everything real can or should be measured
>>2831505That’s what I said first, that it’s not effective. It’s damaging not just to the tortured but the torturer.
>>2831477>Give up, dick rider. Platner raped women and groomed children. You are epstein. We all know platner managed abu ghraib, yet here you are supporting him. You know you are wrong. Give it up.Don't care, I'm just tired of centrists and zionists weaponizing SA accusations while they promote a literal pedophile in the white house. It's all disingenuous garbage just meant to control public opinion. None of it is intended to actually bring criminal behavior to justice. Using this as a political tactic inevitably means the only people that gain any kind of political foothold are ones whose fanbase doesn't care about rape. Anyone else can just be anonymously accused by fictional women and have their support base destroyed to ensure the most corporate candidate wins. Ever feel like modern American politicians are morally bankrupt even by Capitalist standards?
>>2831495No, DNCPUSA members should all know at least a fraction of the terror their ideology has so gleefully spread throughout the world. They supported the GWOT, they supported the massive carceral system that Joseph Robinette Biden and KKKillary KKKlinton created. They voted for it when it was millions of innocent Iraqis, so they should feel the same fear and terror that the Iraqis felt.
>>2831507yeah i'm a third anon, sorry
>>2831505Morality is often the subjective taste or distaste but not always, there are objectively anti social behaviors and objectively pro social behaviors.
>>2831502>every harm you do to other people harms you, it’s like gravityThis is liberal fantasy and I can point to millions of examples where this is wrong. For example Kissinger died a rich old man surrounded loved ones while his millions of victims died horrible deaths after a life of poverty.
>>2831477These obviously fake SA allegations guarantees real ones will go ignored. You already got him on the war criminal front so no need to cry wolf here.
>>2831513Nixon and Kissinger doomed the American empire to stagnation and decline, that’s the apple falling, it doesn’t necessarily mean immediate personal consequences like King Von getting shot after killing 12 or 13 people and bragging about it in his raps.
>>2831508if platner wins, nothing will fundamentally change. just because the "centrists and zionists" act like platner is a threat doesn't mean he actually is. i am not saying he "should not" be elected. i am saying everyone on here should stop giving a shit about the latest shiny new reformist. aoc, the squad, and bernie turned out to be traitors to the working class and now we're stooping to VOOTING for petty bourgeois mercenaries who worked for blackwater and have family members in aipac. how low can the democrats stoop before you realize there is nothing good that can ever be done through their party?
>>2831518
They’re just gonna tell you what you want to hear to get the waterboarding to stop, not the actual truth. You’re engaging in sadistic fantasy.
>>2831518
>sir i found what i suspect is an enemy
>he is guilty until proven innocent, begin the torture
>wow he confessed to the crime to make the torture stop, our biased has been confirmed
>this proves he was an enemy all along
george w bush logic
>>2831440>no one ever hated mamdani.Okay this has to be a joke, people were calling him "Ziohran" and talking about how he's "backstabbing", let's not pretend he wasn't hated on here.
>>2831524He’s still allowing mosques to sell real estate in the west bank
>>2831516I don't live in Maine so I don't really care about supporting him or whether he wins. I also don't think he'll change anything even IF he isn't a glowie plant because one senator can't really do anything besides be a tiebreaker vote.
We should be more active in calling out the tactic of throwing out random SA accusations against anyone challenging mainstream politics from the left though. If you just drop someone the moment NYT makes up some shit to defame them, you'll have no political base to develop a movement. Loyalty/trust seemingly doesn't exist on the American Left. Though in this case I don't trust Platner at all.
>>2831518trial by torture is literally medieval superstition. god damn you're retarded. that's the only word for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_by_ordeallike it took hundreds of years for human political and legal systems to evolve past this "if you confess under torture it proves you're guilty" nonsense
and now I see "communists" on leftychud dot larp saying 'you know what, let's bring it back!"
how is that not reactionary? it doesn't matter who's doing it, any group of people is capable of confirmation bias, and it doesn't matter if the people doing the torture pretend to be communists and pretend that the people they are torturing are fascists, those are just labels people use to justify whatever they wanted to do.
>>2831526>Mosques>Selling real-estate in the west bankGuessing you meant to write temples, unless I'm mistaken. That said that has nothing to do with my point, that its absurd to say "he isn't hated on here", I'd argue that the Zohran haters far outnumber whatever supporters he has on here.
>>2831527Yeah I don't throw the "Red Fascist" accusation around haphazardly but this is pretty much just red fascism.
What if I just like torture
Huh, what then retard
>>2831527
Again, you’re just another American sadist, no better than the Bushes or Trumps or Rumsfelds.
Torture isn’t justice no matter who you’re doing it to.
>>2831540
>People are sadists who get off to torture
>It definitely isn't just going to galvanize opposition and turn the public against you.
Retardium.
>>2831529>We should be more active in calling out the tactic of throwing out random SA accusations against anyone challenging mainstream politics from the left though.who cares. bro did 4 tours of duty for the burgersraeli war of terrorism against the middle east and then worked for blackwater. people only care about the nazi tattooos and SA allegations as a distraction from his actual confirmed actions
>>2831540
>we aren't using terror to determine guilt, just to satisfy our bloodlust
you are a walking piece of anticommunist propaganda lol
>>2831540
You could easily accomplish the same thing with jail or exile but you’re a sadist and your politics is a thinly veiled excuse for your sadism. You’re just another Neocon.
>>2831529I have have no reason to believe the SA accusations are made up. I think they should be investigated.
>ne senator can't really do anything besides be a tiebreaker voteThis is a blatant lie. But even if it wasn't, being a tiebreaker vote is huge and all he would need to be. His openly stated policies are Zionist, USA supremacist, and national socialist. So he
will be voting in favor of all those things. This is not hyperbole.
>>2831544
>if a torturer calls himself a communist, i believe him
>if a torture victim is accused of being anti communist, it must be true
>this could never be weaponized by people who are communist in name only
are you sure you aren't a feudalist, since you want to bring back ancient superstitions like trial by ordeal?
>>2831547
>our Red Army
where? there's a red army? oh my god finally…. oh it's just imageboard larping
>>2831540What's the point of striking fear into your enemies when you can just kill them outright? Torture seems like a waste of resources even if you don't believe in morality.
The Bolsheviks didn't waste their time publicly torturing the Romanovs they just shot them and quickly buried the bodies so they could move on to killing more fascists.
>>2831542You're right but at the same time there's no way the Left will achieve anything if we're unwilling to accept disillusioned veterans with military training just because they committed war crimes when they were a fascist. At least the guy volunteers to train Leftists I guess. This kind of creates a contradiction with my previous point about just killing your enemies but if we can extract value out of them maybe it's ok.
>>2831544
>capitalism, torture, rape, and everything else the vast majority of the proletariat finds distasteful are based as long as people who call themselves communists are the ones doing it to people they accuse of anti communism
how is this communism and not just dragging the name of communism through the mud in the name of empowering yourself and a small group of buddies
>>2831553
And how is torture necessary? Even if you wanted it televised you could just slice a throat or the femural artery with a knife.
>>2831553
>A revolution is not a dinner party, nor is it conducted with silk gloves.
woah… i never thought of it like that… woah… mind blowing stuff… really makes you think… "i say you are anti communist and you should be tortured. i am a communist so it is ok…." compelling stuff everyone is nodding their head sagely
>>2831556it's a troll or mentally ill person or LLM. he will deny it but it is obvious
So when do we talk about socialism
>>2831561when the troll who wants to bring back bronze age legal systems goes away
>>2831541The American "people" wholeheartedly supported an intercontinental carceral and torture system which we still maintain to this day, thanks in no small part to your party's support.
If you think the American "people" are going to turn against torture, you haven't been paying any attention. The American "people" are reactionary monsters who bay for blood, and we shall give it to them.
>>2831558
people who are communist in name only can easily torture people who are falsely accused of anti communism. this is why we evolved beyond the code of hammurabi. you might believe crimes aren't crimes as long as you're doing them, but most people see that as tyranny, not communism. you only slander communism by creating a system where rules don't apply to you because of what you call yourself.
>>2831567>If you think the American "people" are going to turn against torturewe're entering people in scare quotes territory. how are you going to build a red army in america out of people you don't even consider to be people, based on a system of ethics where you openly say "torture is based as long as i'm the one doing it, and it's fine because i've accused the people i'm torturing of being torturers" you're just evolving into the thing you claim to hate.
Make The Terminally Online Shut The Fuck Up
>>2831561Never because it’s not possible in a service centric economy and the factories are never coming back and even if they did, they wouldn’t employ hundreds of people, it would be a dozen at most
>>2831570Extremely online people need to convince themselves that they’re in an existential struggle against ragebaiters the algorithm shoves in their faces
>>2831566
they died for your treats actually
>>2831574true. have a nice day.
>>2831575Only if you’re into heroin
>>2831578
>It’s actually pretty easy to tell who is and isn’t a communist simply by their support of the Communist Party.
Which Communist Party? ACP? CPUSA? RCP?
>>2831573Wish I'd travelled to Rojava in 2016 when I had the chance
>>2831573>the factories are never coming back and even if they did, they wouldn’t employ hundreds of people, it would be a dozen at mostthat's incorrect
9.2.2 - Manufacturing employment as a proportion of total employment - 13th ICLS (%) - SL_TLF_MANF
US in 89th place
China in 1st place
China has over 4x the US population, and 30% of Chinese adults are employed in manufacturing. we could employ basically most american adults in manufacturing. the chief contradiction is actually what i was talking about in the previous thread, which is the tension of currency hegemony:
you can't reindustrialize with tariffs alone. you need to actually build factories, and incentivize people to work in those factories, while at the same time paying wages that can compete with foreign labor. To do all those things at the same time is very difficult, and it contradicts Trump's other stated goal to keep the dollar strong and slow down inflation. How can you pay American workers less than Chinese workers while at the same time making them desire jobs that pay so low? Only by weakening the currency itself relative to other currencies.
We aren't really "protectionist" if the bourgeoisie are winning court cases to get money back for the tariffs they had to pay. Only the end consumer is really paying the tariff, the bourgeoisie doing the importing are not, they're getting reparations for it. And the companies exporting to the USA aren't paying shit even though he likes to pretend that's how tariffs work.
these tariffs are just pump and dump scams which is why he keeps flipping the tariff switch on and off over and over. every time a tariff announcement causes a drop in stock prices, he can buy up those cheap stocks and then ride them back up when the panic is over.
>>2831584
>i don't want my membership to increase
>but i will totally take power and torture everyone
ok
>>2831584
If you're so terrified of growth that you're unwilling to advertise your party on a board with like 80 unique IP's that is dedicated to Communism then I doubt you'll ever achieve much of anything. You're too much of a coward.
>>2831578
>It’s actually pretty easy to tell who is and isn’t a communist simply by their support of the Communist Party.
as you never tire of pointing out, there are plenty of people who are communist in name only. often parties that are communist in name only (like the one you always talk about) have much larger memberships than the true communisty party (which you shall never name, due to fear of sabotage). it is entirely possible one of these communist in name only parties could take power, and accuse people like you of being anti communist, and torture you. this demonstrates plainly the faultiness of your logic. i need not reiterate my previous counterarguments to your previous replies. you are free to read them again.
>>2831583this shut him up. where did he go?
>>2831589The DNCPUSA will never take power because doing so is specifically forbidden by their own ultra-Browderist constitution, so I'll be fine on that regard. The DNCPUSA's entire strategy is to be a minor party inside a reformed, American parliamentary system. Their absolute highest goal is basically to be every Eurocommunist party, but even farther right and even less relevant.
The DNCPUSA not only has no credible strategy to ever seize power, they think that doing so is wrong and counterproductive. Their entire strategy rests on the foundation of class collaborationism and working within a system designed by slave owning aristocrats to protect their private property. This means that despite their name, they are objectively not Communists and shouldn't ever be treated as such. They are anti-Communists and their strategy is actively AND INTENTIONALLY harmful to the cause of the left.
None of you so called "historical materialists" will even try to interface with what the DNCPUSA actually believes, you just ignore that because it proves me right. The most important facts are the ones you all intentionally ignore.
>>2831602ok then go take power and torture whoever you want. and remember. if people aren't cheering while you do this, they are also guilty
>>2831602ok if the DNCPUSA will never take power why do you regard them as an existential threat to you taking power, especially since you intend to take power through illegal armed struggle rather than legal parliamentary struggle. they aren't even in your way except to the extent that you wish to also engage in legal parliamentary struggle, which I doubt you want to engage in since you aren't even willing to name your party.
>>2831583high tech manufacturing never left. for example china doesn't mass produce jet engines, america does
>>2831605The DNCPUSA exists, it is ALLOWED to exist by the federal government who has provably infiltrated and disrupted it on multiple occasions, (to ZERO reaction by the "party) specifically because it is one of the most reliable anti-Communist organizations in America.
The main goal of the bourgeois state is to protect it's own private property and continue to accumulate wealth. DNCUPSA is a class collaborationist organization who's own internal structures ensure that they can never meaningfully threaten the ruling class, and THIS IS BY DESIGN.
The intentionality is another aspect that none of you "historical materialists" will ever interface with, because once again, it proves me right and you wrong. The DNCPUSA is not a Communist party. It is an anti-Communist party, and it should be treated like it and actively struggled against at every possible opportunity and with every possible weapon.
>>2831608got it, but that doesn't really answer the question i asked, it's more of a polemic unrelated to my question
>>2831607the USA won't outsource its MIC jobs because it needs the population as invested in imperialism as possible. if all the good jobs are in the MIC, what does that tell you.
i wonder if pol has felix types. like guys who show up on pol and accuse all the other pollacks of not being right wing and racist enough
quads and i get off my ass and organize
>>2831618ah well
better luck next time
>>2831611that was just one example. if america gets into a war that demands MRI machines or electric transformers or high speed video cameras we'll be set, but if we need to mass produce 155mm artillery shells its literally over
>>2831620but china has higher tech than us now AND YET more manufacturing jobs per capita. explain that.
>>2831608i wish you would struggle against the 150 million or so democrats and republicans with 1/100th of the zeal that you struggle against other dead, tiny, weak irrelevant parties barely more populous than your own
>>2831469Did a fucking caveman write this post?
>>2831624ok so quick recap, your argument is america can get its manufacturing jobs back by becoming socialist, but it can't become socialist unless it has proletarian revolution, and it won't have proletarian revolution if most people are service sector, therefore nothing ever happens and the jobs aren't coming back, do i have that right?
>>2831626you must be new. "caveman anon" aka "wrongschizo" has been at it since trump's reelection campaign. he was in here shilling for trump as anti imperialist using the same exact sentence structure, etc.
he's a well known troll
>>2831623https://youtu.be/UAeq5gk9lFw?si=wyUwMTusdECOOCPBThe worst foe that the worker faces
Is not the soldier's might;
Nor is it city council places,
Nor barons, priests, or knight.
His worst foe stands, so sly and small,
Within his own ranks after all, within his own ranks after all.
Who can debate a thing or two,
Who's read a bit of Marx,
Thinks he’s a man above the crew,
A soul with higher sparks.
He stands a thumb-breadth proud and tall
Within his own ranks after all, within his own ranks after all.
Of class struggle he knows no more,
And nought of revolutions;
A strike fills him with terror sore,
And bullets bring confusion.
He only wants parliament's hall
From his own ranks after all, from his own ranks after all.
And if a government official then
Claps his shoulder: "Well, my friend…",
He forgets the proletariat men—
The worst caliber in the end.
No wealthy squire is half as vile
As the one from his own ranks all the while, from his own ranks all the while.
Watch out! For there your enemy stands,
Who betrayed you a hundred times over!
The fat cats are praised by all the bands,
Nationalists and Democrats in clover.
Freedom? Salvation? Say goodnight.
You’re robbed of the fruit of your painful fight.
That’s because you could never stand tall
Against the foe from your own ranks after all,
Against the foe from your own ranks after all.
>>2831637you think that proves anything?
>>2831632I swear these so called “communists” are more interested in belittling and nitpicking the proletariat than actually working with what they have.
There were many golden opportunities to organize the American proletariat and seize power (The 30s, the 60s) and the DNCUPSA INTENTIONALLY squandered them all and essentially self-liquidated to make sure that the American left couldn't come anywhere near power.
>ACP leadership on vacation in Turkiye and Russia while their members sit around doing fuckall
lmao, lol.
>>2831696well you better go round up all 20,000 of them and torture them. enough whining.
>Backrooms (Literally a 4chan post) and Obession are smash hits.
>Both of which have heavy chud themes too
It's over
>>2831702take it to isg faggotron
>>2831699Its called networking ultra, also ACP members are running small businesses and supporting their community, building ties and are making great strides to build productive forces what are you doing?
>>2831702Obsession is a feminist movie. Shut the fuck up.
>>2831703Two american films
>>2831707How so? I haven't watched it but from what it looks like to me it seems chuddy
permachudded zoomie status?
>>2831707>Obsession is a feminist movie.is this like when femchuds claim 50 Shades is a feminist book?
note: I don't know what Obsession is
AmeriKKKan pop "KKKulture" is inherently reactionary and the fact that none of you understand this is yet more proof that you are it's intended audience.
>>2831612>i wonder if pol has felix types. like guys who show up on pol and accuse all the other pollacks of not being right wing and racist enoughFelix is actually the reincarnation of August Willich, who challenged Marx to a duel for being too conservative
>>2831711>>2831715It's quite literally about female body autonomy. Like, it's not even especially subtle about it. Watch the movie before commenting on it.
>>2831720Is female bodily autonomy inherently a feminist concept? Do you have to be a feminist to uh…respect women's bodily autonomy?
I don't really understand since I haven't watched it so I won't comment any further.
>>2831584
I see you’re a member of the Stonecutter’s Lodge as well.
>>2831718>Felix is actually the reincarnation of August Willich, who challenged Marx to a duel for being too conservativethat's incredibly generous since august willich moved to the USA and fought in the civil war to end slavery. felix would be too busy trying to purge the union army for not being abolitionist enough until there's only 10 people left
>>2831717Japan is a western country and has been since the Meiji restoration
>>2831725lmao heckin ebic pop culture reference, Myles. every time you open your mouth you prove how treat brained you are.
>>2831722>Is female bodily autonomy inherently a feminist concept? Do you have to be a feminist to uh…respect women's bodily autonomy?Yes?
>>2831736
Nah. You haven't watched the movie.
>>2831733Recognizing the pop culture reference means you’re part of the pop culture issue
>>2831740>A demon forced her to kill the other girl! It wasn't her fault he should have murdered her when she asked!I mean come on. It's another "women is literally a child and has no agency" film, demon edition. Sorry but why can't feminists show women being responsible for their own bad actions for once?
>nerdy incel wishes on the monkeys paw for his crush to like him back
>she becomes an obsessive freak and rapes and eats his cat
>he wants to reverse the wish because she's too weird but no refunds lol
>the entire world unravels and everyone dies
is this really what feminism is all about?
>>2831741Really just feels like hipster ideology at this point
>>2831745bro is from portland and wears golf caps. i told him to come to misissippi once but he said he wouldn't step foot in the amerikkkan south. i reminded him it's the blackest state and how oregon started off as a whites only colony
>>2831748>more black people = more left-winglol the absolute state of the american left
Honestly, Felix has a point that U$ Pop “Culture” is Ultra-Reactionary Bourgeois propaganda and frankly that is why I stopped watching Movies and TV shows in the last few years (along with the fact that the quality has objectively gone to shit, as proven by this
>>2831743 Sexist Incel shit being a Blockbuster, 🤣😂🤢🤮), as I have completely embraced the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the Highest Stage of Marxism, 😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🚀☢️!
>>2831748Ehh I don’t like the guy but I think there’s too many insinuations of racism on the left. I just think he’s a bit of an elitist: “oh you like stuff that’s popular instead of books about Nazi demons committing rape!”
>>2831755I think there's an important point to be made that all media under Capitalism is inevitably going to be slop and we need to stop trying to frame it as actually left-wing or advancing left-wing ideas just because we like it. Just accept that your favorite media is slop. I find it way more annoying when leftists try to profess x movie or show or comic book is "based crypto-leftist propaganda" and everyone else's taste is "reactionary" when it's all the same slop.
t. anime enjoyer
>>2831749Most black Americans are DEEPLY reactionary and vote for DemoKKKrats only because the RepubliKKKans are openly racist.
For example, the rates of religiosity are MUCH higher among black Americans than white Americans, and the Baptist cult is probably the second most reactionary organization in America after only the KKKatholiKKK Cult
>>2831755It has nothing to do with popularity and everything to do with the fact (and it is a fact) that the cultural produce (I will not call it art, as it is a commodity first and art a DISTANT second) produced by a system tend to reflect and reproduce the prevailing ideology of that system. The fact that you like it is even more telling, given as you make the most reactionary choices possible in every given scenario. Even your dog is reactionary, that is not a mistake, it is a choice, it reflects who you are as a "person"
>>2831758I get you; I’m not gonna pretend pop culture is all that “profound”, it’s just fun.
>>2831749>more black people = more left-wingnot what i was implying, just think hipster boy is afraid to leave oregon
>>2831748There are more unironic Neo-Nazis in Oregon than in the entire state of Mississippi. No way he put an exception like that
>>2831766Stop being weird about black peoples
>>2831766>a system tend to reflect and reproduce the prevailing ideology of that system. Right. So to you that means leftists can't like actions scenes in movies or something? People can like aspects of a thing without endorsing the entire product.
Why are you incapable of understanding this? You see this same autistic argument with being a "fan" of something. As if enjoying a movie or book means you must love everything 100% from the actors, writers, producers all the way up to the financial companies involved. Autistic thinking.
TOR nodes were a mistake
>>2831626Ziohran scammed workers
>>2831708Maoist praxis :)
>>2831785so he's accelerationist? based.
>>2831799troops are mainly pigs against non-americans so many americans don't care that troops act like pigs.
>>2831799- soldiers oppress foreigners
- police oppress locals
- locals don't care when foreigners are oppressed
- locals do care when locals are oppressed
any questions?
>>2831799signing up to kill strangers for money is easier to justify with bad intel and propaganda than signing up to kill your neighbors for money.
lots of people signed up for afghanistan after 9/11 to get revenge on al qaeda, only to be sent to iraq to fight for oil instead. they had no idea what the situation was actually like until they arrived in the middle east, and by then their only path home was to kill brown people. that doesn't justify the war crimes but i could understand someone joining the military after consuming fascist propaganda and thinking they were doing good only to end up disillusioned afterwards.
meanwhile no one has ever been under the impression ICE or police have any kind of noble mission. people only join ICE to terrorize their neighbors.
>>2831777trips of truth. i want the raw marx. curly haired bastard who drinks wine and calls lassalle names. none of this bishonen anime marx
>>2831752Yuppp another banger King Lear post
>>2831799>>2831809ironically supporting the military eventually comes back around to fucking them in the ass at home
>>2831831it's true but most people are shortsighted retards regardless of class.
>>2831814>police have any kind of noble mission.The average cop is told they are protecting the community from murderers, rapists and gangsters. They don't even think about capitalism or private property as they are brainwashed to think it's a normal functioning of a "free" society.
irl socialism will also have cops to keep the violent elements in check.
>>2831835if there were a revolution tomorrow the socialist police would not and could not be the same police. all the existing police would have to be fired.
>>2831837sorry, fired upon*
https://xcancel.com/upholdreality/status/2062567375795265854Meanwhile on Chinese TV: "I visited California in the 80s. They were promising high-speed rail. China didn't even have highways."
40 years later, they have built zero. China: biggest high speed rail network.
"The superiority of socialism is clear."
>>2831836>pretty cake joblol
Seriously tho I'm thinking of guys like Serpico who bought into the propaganda, get into the force and freak out over the corruption. Misinformed people do exist and join even if they end up leaving very quickly. That shows many people think police have noble intentions same as military
>>2831837Yeah, I agree. Better to be clean up everything and start fresh.
>>2831833kinda thinking the guy blew most of his money on the elite versions of bing bing wahoo
>socialism is when trains
>>2831853socialism is when electricity
t. lenin
>state capitalism is socialism
>>2831842He was cool little guy
>>2831914
geeeeeeeg
>>2831858Have you thought about moving to Israel, the state does a lot of stuff and the people like it
>>2831922israel is actually pretty austere at least by firstie standards
>>2831852come to think of it, wasn't there also that phone text convo where hunter biden had to ask his dad to bail him out with money
>>2831799We really live in a powerful propaganda bubble (espeically where i grew up) where da troops are praised, we are told they fight for our freedom our lifestyle, even atleast during the afgahn and iraqi wars that they where their to help the afgahn and iraqi people, and people beleive it.
Now cops hasle you in person and when they fuck up and shoot someone you find out on the news
>>2831985why is so much amerikkkan debate around this stuff about moral superiority
>>2831922no. read the post again. it's about china in comparison to america. not israel. get a grip maybe? stop trying to compare the genocidal settler colony burgers arm and fund with china?
israel is suicidally reactionary and picks fights with everyone because of its ethnoreligious supremacist foundations. i would rather live in china.
>>2832055
>this is your
which of the 74 unique IPs are you talking to right now, because i'll tell you right now i said that guy was another disappointing succdem and i was right
>>2831914
seething
>>2832137
staymad ruzzian pig
>>2832137get a grip
>>2832139stay outta my conversation azovite armchair
>>2832137
Joyless robot
>>2832144He forgot to add the gigachad image
>>2832149
i want that burning weapons factory on my desk monday morning
>>2832149
>you desecrated lenin and stalin by drawing them killing the tsar
schizo meltdown time
god I love watching this ruzzki nationalist seethe about a drawing
>if you dont's defend Ruzzian monarchy you are an uKKKranian ZZionist
utterly delusional
i used to think communism was about the overthrow of the bourgeoisie by the proletariat and the establishment of a society without exploitation, but I've come to realize it's actually about really alienated edgelords wokescolding each other and threatening each other with torture over aesthetic preferences on an anonymous imageboard
>>2832179
> Also repeating the anti-communist myth that Lenin ordered the execution of the Tsar and his family
i don't see his family. i just see lenin punching the tsar. do you think a drawing is intended as an accurate recounting of history? next you'll say it's inaccurate because lenin looks jacked. you seem kinda stupid buddy.
>>2832181the more you threaten to shoot shop clerks the more communists your are
>>2831787https://news.bloomberglaw.com/capital-markets/mamdani-plan-to-extend-pension-payments-will-cost-5-billionZiohran withold and slash retiree pensions and take secret private thiel trump debt to save babylon from default. That why ziohran shook trump hand. They make deals
>>2832194
>IMG_3157.jpeg
on your phone? do you show these off when you're on dates?
>>2831782Zohran cut pension. Zohran on payroll of zuckerburg thiel
>>2832194
the video is good but doesn't mention mamdani. it mostly talks about the pensions rugpull being done at a national level
>>2832202i don't think he's ever felt the loving touch of another human being, sadly. could anyone fix him?
God, seeing DNCPUSA's candidate Graham Platner eat shit is pretty satisfying. I wonder if any of this will actually stick, though, or if he will remain made of teflon.
It's pretty telling exactly how far right the DNCPUSA is that they support a literal American Einsatzkommando though.
>>2832194
>you are tsarist because you posted pics of lenin
>also you are 150 years old, here are pictures of your friends
do you drink a lot of alcohol by any chance
>>2832213>God, You are theist because you said this.
if quads, america will die in 2 more weeks
>>2832198JD Vance flew too close to the sun. Mossad saying that means bipartisan support and Trump feeling backstabbed. El Rubio wins
>>2832198>muh peach mintshappened in trump 1 and didn't mean anything. stop believing in institutional processes
>>2832218
I think the DNCPUSA would come out and fully liquidate themselves into the Democratic Party if such a ticket ever happened, there would be no reason for them to even exist anymore. Violent, murderous American Imperialism purged of it's most self-destructive elements and primed to rule for another 250 years is exactly what the DNCPUSA is after, just as long as the American Volk get their crumbs from the table.
>>2832226
in the time you spent screeching abouta picture of lenin killing the tsar and spamming gore from 100 years ago you could have had lunch with a nice working class person of your choice
>>2832229boredom. there was nothing to do back then.
>>2832218
>Secretary of War in AOCIA’s Fourth Reich, fully endorsed by the DSA
we are not getting an AOCIA presidency lol. we'll get 100 more holden bloodfeasts before they let 1 succdem be president.
>>2832225no what im saying is there's been rumors that trump wants Vance out of the administration and the only way to remove him is through making him resign or impeach him themselves
>>2832229No birth control.
>>2832235which would also explain why peter thiel moved to argentina because vance was his guy
>>2832236well our mentally ill comrade will never even be in a situation where birth control is required because he is too busy "working" by which he means pretending to be a prosecutor on here
>>2832226
>I’m not a child and I actually have to work for a living
so do most women nowadays? lame excuse
>>2832240Women are lame anyways
>>2832242The VAST majority of Amerikkkan women are reactionary Einsatzkommandos like AOCIA and yourself.
The VAST majority of Amerikkkan men are reactionary Einsatzkommandos like Ziohran Bomberdummy and yourself.
You and your ilk will be EXTERMINATED at the hands of bolsheviks, who have no time for petty bourgeois frivolities like "joy," kkkapeshit, and "dating."
>>2832213It really is hilarious to the smart people like us. The "anti-"fascist dickriders hurt their best chances of defeating MAGA fascism by dickriding dead horse nazi fascist. We tell them this a year ago.
One month ago, it was 80 20 for democrat to win. Now it is coinflip. That what happen when CPUSA dickride nazis
>>2832243do it already, if you aren't faster i'll die of natural causes
>>2832248>marxist women dont existare you stupid
>>2832213I think he's made of teflon, there is simply no reason for democrats to be moralfags anymore. They just hate republicans now.
>>2832250you know I'm right tho
there aren't even any girls on this website
>>2832244This is why DNCPUSA's insane strategy of "Vote Blue No Matter Who" was always going to backfire. The Democrats are a bunch of murderous imperialists too, and when the DNCPUSA subordinated themselves entirely to the Democratic Party line (in exchange for nothing, I should add!) they were just asking for a Platner to come around and make the terms of this bargain clear.
Of course, this is the same DNCPUSA that supported the architects of the GWOT (KKKillary KKKlinton and Joseph Robinette Biden) and the Gaza Genocide, so I doubt they care how many children Platner has killed so long as he makes empty promises to give the American Volk more crumbs from the table. That he will never make good those promises is irrelevant to DNCPUSA, who's primary goal is and always will be to lead the left down a blind alley where they can be destroyed.
>>2832237> peter thiel moved to argentinaa time honored tradition
>>2832262
>chimp out
>talmud
>>2832263
>women are too dumb for marxism
is this place just /pol/ now
>>2832266>is this place just /pol/ nowit's leftypol
the board title is leftist politically incorrect
what do you expect?
>>2832268idk it wasn't even this bad when it was on 8ch
>>2832262
>It’s not just that they don’t care, they approve of it. AmeriKKKans almost to a man genuinely believe that any human beings outside the walled garden of the core are beasts in human form
that would require them to know a world outside of america exists
>>28322708ch was more pro-women but had a nasty anti-gay streak. Now the gays are mostly cool but shitting on women is the name of the game.
>>2832276women are often gay
>>2832276it's inevitable when you have a community that is 100% male that male grievances will bubble to the surface, and the majority of male grievances in this era of discourse revolve around lack of pussy.
>>2832280>>2832281I don't really know how "Your race/gender/whatever is bad" stuff just doesn't grind down on your soul. I have even stopped shitting on zoomers for the most part because it just bores me now.
>>2832281>>2832285Yeah it's also just the same small proportion of the society that was always bitchless, they just have a way to connect with each other and form a culture over the internet now.
>>2832286>>2832287unironically speaking I think there is more femcels than people might realize. The "Situationship" thing seems to be more of a meme honestly
>>2832291>unironically speaking I think there is more femcels than people might realize.where are they then?
there are hundreds of communities full of lonely desperate men looking for any semblance of affection from a woman but these 'femcels' avoid them like the plague.
First time I rent in my life (moved to Denmark for PhD) and this is literally hell. Abusive landlords and little protection by the State.
We are basically naked in this fucking world. Landlords get the bullet
>>2832302I'm not sure if conservatives just forgot the civil rights act was a compromise to avoid mass violence or they don't care that the violence is now inevitable. But the death of liberal bandaid solutions has been kind of cathartic.
>>2831779He's a weirdo, why sink to his level?
>>2832267Not sure how into comics you are but the current DC Absolute run is pretty fun just 'cause it seems like there are some class-pilled dudes on the writing team.
>Early supes getting murdered/repressed for being Socialists>One villain talks about how happy he is to rat out those "dirty pinkos" to HUAC>Superman's arc is literally just people begging him to murder not!Jeff Bezos>"Beat the whites with the red wedge" referenced in Absolute Martian Manhunter> >>2832304Yeah but there are also plenty of decent people trapped in the South who dont have the money to move somewhere with an actual leftist movement who now get to watch their states fulfill the dream of Strom Thurmond in realtime, complete with legalized segregation and lynching. The ones that can get out absolutely will, to the point of overtaking the ongoing "trans migration" to blue strongholds. The party state has been more or less secured in Dixie for the indefinite future
>>2832311why dont they do something about it instead of crying? buy a gun uygha the south is full of them.
>>2832226
Incel cop out.
Go get some poon
>>2832312Are you kidding? They'd be extrajudicially executed if they even so much as tried. Best thing they can do right now is regroup somewhere that isn't actively trying to kill them
>>2832309It seems like "the culture war is a distraction" is bipartisan consensus in the U.S. but despite seemingly everyone acknowledging it (even had some conservatives tell me that) no one wants to give up the culture war.
It's why I think the best bet for a socialist movement is to try to be culturally neutral wherever possible, maybe promote some kind of dialogue where its like "if you agree not to do X we'll not do Y"
>>2832314I mean yeah you'll never have revolution without being willing to die for it. But most of the civil rights agitating in the 60's was also in the South and those people were living in an even more hostile environment where cops openly bragged about only existing to protect white people.
I'm not gonna pretend to act tough and say you should martyr yourself for basic human rights. Martyrdom is stupid. I'm saying fascist violence should never be a reason to give up on revolution. It's literally the only tool they have and the inability of the fascist state to deal with dissent is relevant for organizing. Public opinion can be manipulated by baiting the Republicans into over-playing their hand. They couldn't even handle ICE killing two white people in Minnesota before retreating due to public backlash. Why are we pretending the fascist regime has carte blanche to just mass murder people in the streets? They'll try to do it but if Leftists organize correctly the backlash could be massive.
>>2832313Are you saying sex will help solve his problems? Honestly I think Felix needs to touch grass and touching ass might make him more unstable. I thought sex wasn't supposed some cure anyways?
>>2832198If this ends with a crowd of trump supporters screaming "hang JD vance!" Ill die. Has there ever been a president that was so actively hostile to their VP? JDs only chance now is to trip grandpa trump and assume the throne.
>>2832327*touch less grass
>>2832309plot twist: the two chuds in the aquarium are arguing on how best to help top hat man
>>2832239
yes yes, you have transcended the idealism of humanoids and become a robot whose sole purpose is to bring about communism by spamming grainy black and white jpegs of naked corpses and having circular arguments on leftychud dot larp
>>2831833I like how the American ruling class either lives as scummy drifters or shut in incels. They don't need billions of dollars to live like that.
>>2832327it won't cure him, i just like the idea of him sitting across from some portland vegan hipster blue haired chick and ordering a bloody rare steak and showing her his pictures of dead white army and pilsudski-ite chuds and telling her those are her friends.
Is the usa in a recession
>>2832327It's not a cure all but a healthy romantic relationship can be satisifying
>>2832229its funny how the right-wing chuds on 4ch/pol/ have a greater material understanding of this issue, maybe because they aren't blinded by ideals and just cut straight to the point:
<No pussy no workbut no, terminally online asexual leftypolers have to act like there's some reactionary sexism at play in men's very basic need for sexual fulfillment that isn't being met. they choose to demonize and mock such a basic human need as if it's unnatural and we just need to collectively "get over it" like them and renounce sexuality instead. it's so fucking obnoxious lol.
>>2832345oh you're back. did you beat the charges?
>>2832338it's in a bubble because of AI but the rest of the economy may as well be in a depression.
>>2832286
>Statistically speaking most young women are part of a harem ""situationship"" while most men get none.
retard
>>2832286
>That also explains why the majority of women never get into real leftism. They keep up the hope getting a man to take care of them
more like most moids hope they'll get a woman to do their dishes and laundry and rub their feet and give them kids and manage their finances and schedule their doctors appointments and remind them to call their mom
>>2832345>When was the last time Annie Levin was grinding hard as a wage slave? Clocking in for an hourly paid job? She has been a professional writer since 2005. She writes opera reviews and thinks she can speak on behalf of the working class? The audacity is staggering. Here is a woman whose byline exists because of connections to well-funded publications, positioning herself as an authority on a workplace she has never stepped foot in. She has never stocked a shelf at Walmart. She has never pissed in a bottle under full biometric surveillance. She's never driven the forklift on 3 hours of sleep and one to many five hour energies. She has never known the exhaustion of a ten-hour sortation shift. What gives her the right to speak for the working class? What gives her the right to speak over Black working-class voices? Her academic credentials? Her connections? Her theater reviews? Fuck no. You know what gives me the right to speak about this? I am a working-class person from the streets. Do you think that these people have ever listened to Young Dolph?dying
based tho
>>2832351>more like most moids hope they'll get a woman to do their dishes and laundry and rub their feet and give them kids and manage their finances and schedule their doctors appointments and remind them to call their momWhat's wrong with that? I thought the left was all about mutual aid? You know some people have genuine mental health issues or severe anxiety/autism that makes it difficult to even do basic daily chores around the house or manage appointments? What's wrong with wanting someone that can help you with those things while you help them with their issues? Does every person need to be a perfect being before they're allowed to seek love?
>>2832345Hey, never seen your(?) Site before. Thanks, Erik!
>>2832336Restaurants are bourgeois, as are women
>>2832355>women won't get into leftism because they want a moid to take care of them<actually it's the other way around>what's wrong with that?so it's only mutual aid when woman take care of man, but not when man take care of woman?
>>2832361>so it's only mutual aid when woman take care of man, but not when man take care of woman?wdym exactly? I've seen way more examples of the latter especially online. throughout my time on 4chan /soc/ there's been basically an endless supply of femcels with severe behavioral or mental health issues seeking affluent men to "fix" them and this is just seen as socially acceptable. meanwhile when a poor autistic man seeks a woman that can "fix" him or at least help him get his shit together, he gets mocked for being a loser, being pathetic, being a manchild, etc both by men and women. this is quite simply not fair. we should not be attacking men for wanting a support structure, the same kind of support structure women seemingly take for granted as a core requirement of any relationship they engage in.
when my ex e-girlfriend was having mental breakdowns due to her childhood trauma she could always rely on me to be there for her, and in fact would get quite angry if i wasn't there for her even in the middle of the night when she had nightmares. she was stuck in a perpetual state of emotional adolescence but I still tried to see the good in her and wanted to help her fulfill her potential. but when a man asks the same thing of a partner, it's somehow framed as abuse? why don't people engage in relationships with a desire to grow and help eachother anymore? real life is not like tv, real people have flaws and problems that they need support for, yet modern dating seemingly conditioned people to just drop someone the moment it's no longer convenient.
>>2832243Get socdem gf or a vague leftist and make her read marx.
Theres women out there.
>>2832364Personally I feel like I lucked out with the Cthulhu-worshipping Marxist tradwife gf, I wish my blessings upon other anons
>>2832363tsar bomba tier truke
>>2832359my site is in my tripcode the magazine site is a joint venture by multiple people
>>2832338no, other countries are in worse positions than america is economically
>>2832363>i get my impressions of real life from 4chanmeds
>>2832371>other countries are in worse positions than america is economicallythat was true during the past recessions. the question of a recession is not the same as the question of imperial privilege
>>2832374it is still true. america is the only nation with a functional tech sector besides china. the only thing worse than a bubble popping is not having enough productive forces for one to occur. collectively europe has the same population as america and german banks and companies still use fax machines lol
>>2832376>it is still true.yes it's true but it's kind of a non sequitur in response to the original question
>is a recession happening<well you're better off than zimbabweyeah, but is a recession happening?
>>2832343>the capital>for radical>left wing>terrorismlike… sending your doctors and troops to fight apartheid in south africa?
like… asking americans to kindly remove the torture dungeon on cuban soil?
>>2832363>4chanBruh go to a library
>>2832382I'm genuinely wondering if they're actually gonna land troops or try to position things into a "overthrow your own government or die to a man" type of situation.
Personally I think the former would arguably be the best chance Cuba has of preserving the revolution (in a militant, guerilla form) than the latter. Would like to hear peoples' thoughts though.
>>2832380>123 000God damn, it's not even a recession yet
>>2832380>pic 2the university of california had free tuition in the 1970s?
>>2832384have you ever tried meeting girls at the library?
in my experience they don't like it.
>>2832363/soc/tards are still rightiods, why the fuck is the left that gets blamed for every single dysfunctional social ill out there?
>>2832380>>2832391Facebook alone fired tens of thousands of moderators and other unproductive flunkey. Zuckerburg ziomoderator. Twitter. Big tech is zio
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/business/jobs-report-economyJob went up last month because yank thrive off imperialism
>>2832395No you idiot, I go there to actually learn something instead of listening to online vibes bullshit
4chan is a self-selecting sample of brainrotted morons who are terrified of self-awareness and listening to them will actively make you dumber
t. 4chan oldfag who watched GG happen in real time
>>2832388Pretty sure they're going to attempt to pull another Venezuela where they take out their leadership and then declare victory, except it'll fail miserably because the Cuban government is actually well liked by the population unlike the PSUV
>>2832399>No you idiot, I go there to actually learn something instead of listening to online vibes bullshitwhat do you learn about dating by going to the library?
>>2832403How is a library any different from an archive of people's shitposts?
Does getting your hot takes published in book format make them more valid?
>>2832388you are wrong. You fantasize about impossible scenario. Yanks lost in venezuela. Yanks lost in iran. Yanks already lost cuba. Now you suppose yanks can land troops in cuba. You suppose they have slightest hope of destroying cuban revolution. You are wrong. Yank had no chance of destroying bolivarian revolution. You yank have no hope of destroying iranian revolution. No hope of destroying cuban. I solemly remind you all of your proposals are wrong
>>2832411like how are these sloppy AI-generated porn novels different from the standard 4chan incel takes about women lol?
people need to stop glorifying books unless they're actually good.
>>2832410>being so retarded that you think this topic begins and ends with AmazonThat’s why you read the “about the author” bit, so you can judge if the author actually did the fucking homework. Nonfiction academic publishing usually is done by actual researchers
Posting has none of that, it’s just retards going “dude trust me” in an echo chamber, and pretending all publishing is that is just projecting their own bubble onto shit they don’t understand
You’re proving my point by basically demonstrating zero information literacy
>>2832412obvious its entirely possible for a published book to be dreck but it's unlikely for it to randomly be like 'UYGHUR UYGHUR UYGHUR UYGHUR UYGHUR' for 50 pages
>>2832408Thank you for your service, librarian anon
>>2832413But my initial post wasn't about people's 4chan shitposts at all but based on my experiences with women from 4chan that I talked to on discord and other platforms.
4chan is just a group therapy place for frustrated nerds to complain about their lives. 95% of stuff you read on there is retarded. But there are still at least real people on there, often posting their real feelings, even if they're delusional. In this era full of AI generated slop I think getting real people's input is valuable. I don't think it's reasonable to discount their experiences entirely just because you don't like their opinions. When you cut through the bullshit oftentimes they have real grievances with the world.
Anyway 4chan is not the only place to meet women, obviously. It's not like this phenomenon of mentally ill women seeking providers/fixers is exclusive to 4chan. I've met at least two just from going to actual group therapy. I was moreso criticizing the common mentality that "loser" men don't deserve love because they need help with things, even though it's totally normalized for loser women to seek well-adjusted men that can fix them. We should be consistent about this and encourage people to help eachother even in relationships.
Anyone watching the World Cup next week? Gonna get my Team USA Jersey
>>2832399> I go there to actually learn something instead of listening to online vibes bullshitFunny thing is a pew study showing him right was posted earlier and it got deleted…
>>2831372>call him a zionist for some reason>bans protests of west bank land sales as long as they're held in synagogues>for some reasonhe along with all americans is a genocidal war criminal by proxy at best
>former Israeli UN Ambassador Gilad Erdan: “Message to Mayor Mamdani: We survived Amalek, we survived Hamas, we defeated Iran, we overcame Pharaoh — we will overcome Zohran Mamdani as well.”
Based zohdaddy making zionists seethe and mald
>>2832461falling for reformist kayfabe i see
>>2832309>"idpol bad" has been spread so far to the point where now libertarians has seen the light nature is healing
>>2832472Yes, we must stop fighting the culture war and unite in order to eliminate government regulation, institute free markets and unleash capitalist competition. It's the only way to defeat the billionaire class!
>>2831372>HE'S SUCH AN uwu CAPITALIST HE CAN'T BE ZIONISTWhy did he let zionists and internationally wanted zionist criminals do a genocide march in his city if he isn't a a zionist
>>2832472gaming is healing
woke is dead
>>2832351What does that have to do with women not being into Marxism at the same rates as men? If anything those attitudes from men should make all women more into leftism, right? But instead they are mostly fence sitting liberals.
That limp liberalism makes material sense if the masses of young women think they could get a good life by marrying into a more comfortable life. If I'm wrong then how do you explain it?
>>2832388How hard do you think the US govt will try to suppress any news of Cuban guerilla resistance against an occupation of the island?
>>2832501Cuba is like a few miles from the US mainland. If there's any kind of successful guerilla resistance the war will absolutely spill over into the US side. Cubans and their sympathizers attacking US weapons factories is a real possibility.
>>2832502unfortunately a biennio rosso is still impossible at the current stage
>>2832501I think that because of distance and the sheer number of Spanish speakers in the U.S. that theres no real way to totally obscure what would be happening there.
>>2832507americans always project their decadence of their own empire onto china
>open a reddit thread about hunter biden owning a chud on twitter
>half the comments are talking about him theoretically running for president
why the fuck would a real person believe that a random crackhead would or should run for president? none of these people are real, they're all bots, dead internet theory
>>2832531why are you on reddit?
>>2832531A random crackhead would be a better president than Vance or Harris.
>>2832531he "seems cool" and normies are obsessed with idpol so to them that makes him worth supporting
>>2832531I think it’s just a fetish for a kind of feudal aristocracy jammed into the American system.
>>2832542The Bidens aren't really feudal lord material. Some people just like Hunter and his vibe. They see him as a relatable fuckup who has big dick energy and would be fun to hang out with.
>>2831516>i am saying everyone on here should stop giving a shit about the latest shiny new reformist. aoc, the squad, and bernie turned out to be traitors to the working class and now we're stooping to VOOTING for petty bourgeois mercenaries who worked for blackwater and have family members in aipac. how low can the democrats stoop before you realize there is nothing good that can ever be done through their party?They need to kill more people… not enough in my view. The issue with your argument though is that outside of the Democratic Party there's basically nothing. Also most left-wing guerrilla groups in the world have stopped because they don't get aid from the USSR anymore.
Like we've been through this. There's a hundred sects in the U.S. over the years that have had basically zero effect on changing the consciousness of Americans. Eugene Debs running as a third party was not successful either, other than regionally, and for only a short period of time. The system is set up to prevent it, the only way you get a new party forming would be the Democrats themselves actually splitting. You probably can't take over the Democratic Party, but there are millions of people there, yet if you go into the Democratic Party and try to build up a large enough coalition to bolt with when the Democratic Party does force you out, there are leftists (ultra-leftists) who get on your ass about it. But how do they think they'll build a mass movement? Sprinkling fairy dust on people? Generally speaking, leftists are good at ideology and economics but bad at practical politics. Like what is it, social anxiety? The ones who are good at it get dumped on.
People try to act in a "principled" way but I have no principles. BTW, if you believe it's so un-principled to go into the Democrats because it's run by reactionaries, you wouldn't go into unions because the unions are also led by reactionaries.
There's never been a peasant class in America but there are leftists who wave hammers and sickles around. It's a foreign symbol from Russia, but there were a large number of peasants there. Marxism-Leninism was constructed as a dogma to defend a kind of artificial version of socialism there after the German revolution failed. MLs actually defend that as building the productive forces, which was understandable given the circumstances, but Stalin never got rid of the capitalists, they were brought back to run industries during the NEP and then just turned into Communist Party bureaucrats in the 1930s.
Also this debate doesn't really matter because objective conditions will create whatever leaders and movements it requires.
>>2832363>Mentally/socially stunted retards on 4chan reproduce rightoid gender relationsWow, shocker! However in real life most people don't want creepy dependent losers that they have to baby and take care of as their life partners, whether they be men or women
>I've seen way more examples of the latter especially onlineYou are retarded and need to go outside
>>2832576>Like what is it, social anxiety? The ones who are good at it get dumped on.Many western leftists are introverts who got into leftism though moralism. They apply this moralism to all human interactions so even basic shit becomes overblown tests of character. As such they are incapable of dealing with lots of situations and even mild conflict gets seen as some human dignity violation.
>Also this debate doesn't really matter because objective conditions will create whatever leaders and movements it requires.maybe we need to add a gay-anarchist flag for you to use
>>2832531Because he has vibes and aura. When will people understand that liberal democracy is just a reality show? people vote for whoever they consider to be the coolest.
GW Bush i could have a beer, with Hunter Biden i can smoke a rock.
>>2832522i know
both have none :^)
>>2832363thought you were my ex /soc/ bf for a sec but i never did the thing with nightmares.
also i had no idea this was the typical /soc/ gf experience. i only ever talked to guys on there and /soc/ guys are a diverse bunch. a surprising number of them were lawyers, or at least they claimed to be.
>>2832533Because they are a grown up who can go where they please on this shithole we cal the internet.
honkoid status?
>>2832327Narcistic personality has no cure
>>2832706
That’s on you for allowing American culture in
Hegseth at Normandy:
>"Sadly, today, different European beaches are stormed by different dangerous ideologies. Beaches in Spain and Italy and Greece and Bulgaria. Boats and men arrive. When will European capitals do something about that invasion? Or is it too late? I pray not, and I believe not."
>>2832744Bulgaria mention!
But uh burgerbros please don't invade us…
>>2832737Man imagine dying for trump, being the fall guy for a false flag and it doesnt even nudge his poll numbers by 1%
>>2832686
Bro im in Mexico right now and some people have told me they would never go to america because shit sucks there i feel safer here sometimes than usa
>>2832422Not just a soKKKer fan, but also a nationalist to boot.
You really do make the most reactionary choice in any given situation, don't you, Myles?
I would tell you how many slaves FIFA works to death to build their stadiums, but I'm sure you know and that's a part of the reason why you watch. The cruelty (for profit) is the point. The "sport" certainly isn't.
>>2832766jizzing on madden status?
>>2832531Liberals are seen as lame dorks and they want to feel cool.
Why am I not surprised that you're all soKKKer fans here?
The idea of seeing a strong, young black millionaire makes you so angry that you'd rather to watch a bunch of European "people" run around for 3 hours for the French International Fascist Association's profits than an actual sporting event.
>>2832782futbol is the global sport, no? everyone enjoys it. latam, africa, asia, europe, basically only burgers are obsessed with hand egg, which they erroneously called "football" while celebrating labor day on a different day than everyone else, using an idiotic system of measurements that get scientists killed, etc.
>>2832788White American soKKKer fans (and that includes all of you) are a special type of reactionary. There's a reason why someone chooses to watch a bunch of skinny Aryans run around for the amusement of card carrying fascists rather than an actual sport, and that reason is because they are deeply uncomfortable watching strong, young black workers.
Also soKKKer is only really popular in the Americas and Europe (which are the only places you consider human) , no one in Asia cares. No one in any Socialist country has ever cared about soKKKer, and there's a reason for that, because FIFA is a literal fascist mafia and the sport cannot be separated from FIFA in any meaningful sense.
>>2832799You're going to post the one soKKKer player ever who isn't a fascist meeting with Castro, who clearly doesn't know or care who he is (Cubans play baseball, not soKKKer) as if this is somehow proof without touching my main argument that FIFA is a literal fascist mafia who you willingly and enthusiastically support.
If you think this is some sort of gotcha, you are very wrong. The only one who has been "got" here is you, by proving you're a fascist.
>>2832782philistine adventurist says what
>>2832805>defending baSSebaal a game that prapers to steel "bases" that represent military bases in the 3rd world so you can buy more iwi bullets of the slave mined copper all for the glory of baalYou are epstine
>>2832811If you were actually smart enough to understand how numbers work you'd realize that this is a complete self-own that proves soKKKer is a marginal, at best, "sport" inside China (which is a capitalist country anyway) but since you're a soKKKer fan you are also a drooling neanderthal, incapable of counting beyond your fingers.
This is a lot of work to justify your fandom in a "sport" that serves as an elaborate ritual for European Neo-Nazis to get drunk and terrorize minority youth after they pay their tolls to the actual, literal card carrying Franco Society members who run the team.
>>2832824The statistics literally say the opposite of what you claim but okay buddy, how's that factory?
>>2832824>admitting you dont see all the BLACK and BROWN soccer players because you only notice white European because you only see ayrans as people i bet the portland police and you bonded over your hatred of POC when you got your permit
>>2832830The statistics say that soKKKer in China draws about the same attendance as a mid-sized NBA team in America, despite China having more than 3x the population of America and much larger cities.
And China is not a socialist country, and hasn't been for decades now.
>>2832837And he attacks china for the cia mossad mi6 handlers
You are chiang kai shek
>>2832811Compare your pathetic soKKKer attendance to NFL attendance, and consider that China has more than 3x the population of the US.
19k a game in a country of 1.5 billion is pretty pathetic and not indicative of major fan interest at all.
>>2832847None of the California are in the top ten. I count the Raiders in that even though they play in Vegas since they're basically a California team stilll.
>>2832847NFL
NATIONAL FASCIST LEAGUE
Look at all the flyovers
>>2832837Dog nearly 300 million Chinese identify football as their favorite sport and it's become so popular in recent years that it's been integrated into the national school curriculum. This claim that only white people care about football is patently ridiculous on its face and you know it, I'm not sure why you're so desperate to die on this hill other than your parasocial hateboner for CPUSANON
>>2832847The NFL is basically a secular cult in and of itself, not really comparable to countries like China where sporting has more grassroots organization
>>2832861Sports are heavily subsidized and incentivized by the Chinese government, but soKKKer isn't a sport, it's a fascist drinking ritual for European Neo-Nazis, so it's not a surprise that no one cares in China. There is no neo-nazi movement inside China so soKKKer has no fanbase.
Also my claim isn't that only white people care about soKKKer, it's that only fascists care about soKKKer. That the vast majority of white Americans are willing and enthusiastic fascists (especially all of you) is just taken for granted.
this site is just endless LLM ragebait now.
>>2832788(did the reply even read this post? no. because it is LLM ragebait)
>>2832872You're shifting the goalposts again dude, again all for the sake of continuing your one sided parasocial fued with a grocery store clerk on a dying website. What do you even expect to gain from this? You're desperately grasping at straws to ignore the fact that football in China is overtaking basketball as the most popular sport in the country and now are retreating to the absurd claim that football isn't a "real" sport because you dont like it. And again, what's the purpose here? Do you think that by tying yourself up in contradictory loops denouncing football as ontologically fascist you're going to bring the revolution closer or something?
>>2832893>You're shifting the goalposts again dudebecause it's a ragebaiter. you could agree with him and he'd still accuse you of random made up stuff.
>>2832915I mean yeah Felix is never going to argue in good faith, this is being done for the benefit of the casual observer who might otherwise view this thread and get the impression that all of us want to kill soccer fans and players for being ontologically fascist. That's why you gotta push back against bullshit when you see it, otherwise it lends the impression that the behavior is acceptable
>>2832927Cancel me if you want, but Platner rape women. You defend rape. Platner have active kick account. Why does old man have kick account? Because he epstein. You defend epstein. Kyle defend epstein. Kyle is epstein Class. Kafka trap is epstein defense and now platner defense.
>>2832942Exodus to where?
Kind of crazy how zoomer women are in the chudmaxxing arc while zoomer men are pretty turned off by it. Kind of a crazy vibe shift. I have even heard women who want to be knocked up by Asmongold now but men just think he's ugly as shit
>>2832942I thought it was department of war. Why does department of war judgements matter to epstein phenotype christian
>>2832943Obviously the DSA where they'll make the Latter Day Socialists caucus
>>2832948Integration of religion in the military is a pretty common thing. Until recently there was a much bigger list of "officially recognized faiths" in the American military where you could get rites administered to you or whatever it is they do before going into battle. Now they've cut the list down to like 30, and while Mormons are still on it they're in a separate category now from the "Christian faiths"
>>2832934>>2832941Marxist Leninists in the US are unironically the biggest wreckers
>>2832954>respectability shitlib being respectability shitlibnot news
>>2832959>Marxism Leninism is when this retard ragebaiter on leftychud dot larpi'm begging you, have mercy
>>2832954Who cares, if anything I went from neutral to positive now that r/trueanon, leftypol and her hate it. For all this shit Platner fags get it seems as if they got the hon to back their position.
>>2832967Silence. This is the most manly leftoids have been seen, men are conerting in droves to leftoidism. It's now more manly to be a leftoid than to be a rightiod.
>>2832958Google says that mormans believe theyre israeli. Ziomormon are ontologically zionist so they are indeed zio, not christian.
>>2832959Cancel me if you want, but you are epstein. You right about that one thing but wrong about everything else, dick rider. Im wrecking your epstein system. Your epstein elections will be wrecked. Your platnerite mind is wrecked. Your treat extraction will be wrecked. Platner will not save you from me even if he won. Give up, dick rider. You know you are wrong.
>>2832975NTA but Jesus fucking Christ touch grass.
The second you act macho over posting is the second you’ve lost touch with reality
>>2832954>posting Cointelpointsnext you're gonna post IDF Signifier
>>2832954zionists are afraid
>>2832959They aren't the worst. While MLs will try to divide the population into a dozen new made up nations every week anarkiddies cant organize beyond setting some trashcans on fire.
>>2832954What is with the bizarre obsession that "white online leftists" are a potent political force that chooses candidates in fucking Maine? I know, i know it's self importance, since these people are themselves political twitter posters. Anyway why does nobody think it's possible that Platner got a totenkopf tattoo, discovered it's meaning at some point, and then just never bothered to get rid of it because his friends and family and socialist gun club buddies or whatever know he's not a nazi?
>>2832984>what defines the success of a game is the company's stock priceliberal thinking
it was a good game if you actually bothered to play it.
>>2832988>What is with the bizarre obsession that "white online leftists" are a potent political force that chooses candidates in fucking Maine? I know, i know it's self importance, since these people are themselves political twitter posters.It's also just that most of these people don't interact with anyone except upper class terminally online white leftists. They think the entirety of politics can be summed up by what flags you put in your twitter bio. They don't like the gritty reality of people having flaws and would prefer black/white moral purity thinking as it's easier to bully people over "wrongthink" than actually discussing things rationally.
I don't trust Platner due to his general lack of long-term history with Leftism, but the vast majority of Leftists I've met outside college campuses are closer to Platner than they are to Contrapoints, and this fact drives social media addicts insane over not being the main characters of Leftism.
>>2832954Reminder: The DNCPUSA still supports Platner, along with every other Democrat, as part of their "Vote Blue No Matter Who" strategy. Of course, DNCPUSA also supported the GWOT, so it's not a surprise that they support an unrepentant Einsatzkommando. Imagine being flanked to the left by a literal COINTELPRO operative.
>>2832996Ziggity Zackary, what's the status on that factory?
>>2832992If the vast majority of "leftists" you've met are unrepentant murderers who bragged endlessly about how much they enjoyed murdering Iraqis (who they knew were innocent, but still signed up to kill anyway) then you haven't met very many leftists.
Like most of this site, you're just so far right that you mistake anyone to the left of Adolf Hitler as a "leftist" because they're to the left of you.
>>2833001¿Estado de la fábrica?
>>2832942There are very few Mormons that actually believe any of religious aspects of the culture, I doubt they really care.. From what studies have shown, it's mainly something performed just to signal that you're local. Like religious Zionism, there might be 500 or so people in the entire world that actually believe the religious bits but otherwise, it's as obviously untrue to them as it is to us.
I've read into polling of American Evangelicals as well, and similarly, there are a lot of people that identify as Evangelical, but admit that they don't actually believe any of the theological tenets of the movement, they just use the identity marker.
>>2832941>Cancel me if you want,YOU ARE NOW CANCEL FROM YOUR NETFLIX SUBSCRIPTION FROM NAZDEMSOC GANG
>>2832927NAZDEMSOC GANG IS NOW WINNING RADLIBS HEARS >>2832998Isn't every soulslike/action rpg backtracking easy puzzle slop? They're still fun. Code Vein is fun. God Eater is fun. Wukong is fun. Sekiro is fun. Stellar Blade is fun. AI Limit is fun.
Can we stop pretending a game is bad just because you disagree with its politics? Or hell in this case it's not even about the game's politics specifically, but some silly culture war you attached yourself to where boobs = bad and women have to look like goblins or furries otherwise the game is bad due to "appealing to the wrong demographic". Can we just appreciate both goblin women and attractive hypersexualized women and let people enjoy things? It's really not worth being a culture warrior over something so vapid as what kind of women you like in your video games.
>>2832494>They give her a baby face for porn gameconsidering this is shift-up, i'm not surprised
>>2833006I mean sure there are plenty of Mormons who are Trump loyalists first and Mormons second, that's true with a lot of Christians in general. But the fact of the matter is that a big part of the right wing evangelical base, MAGA's strongest soldiers behind self hating Indians, firmly believes that Mormonism is a Satanic death cult that worships Baphomet and sacrifices children. The integration of Mormonism into the general American protestant zeitgeist has been abruptly halted and it looks like they're going to go back to be persecuted, all being done by the same people they voted for. Something poetic about all of that tbh
>>2833006Moronism is an extreme far right cult and the only reason it's not more dangerous than the KKKatholiKKK Cult is the fact that it's much smaller.
Moronism is probably the farthest right wing cult in America and it should be treated like it. Christ-insanity is already an extreme reactionary ideology, Moronism takes it and goes even farther right wing.
>Moronism
>>2833015it's look no different then the pedobait they made in the past within mobile games
they should've had first protagonist but pregnant
>>2833006>There are very few Mormons that actually believe any of religious aspects of the culturegrew up in mormon utah. you could not be more wrong
>>2833018>they should've had first protagonist but pregnantI would've been ok with that but it's kinda hard to have a pregnant protagonist in an action game where you get beat up.
I like that Evie is a melee character though. Too many sword waifus in action games these days we needed a spunky punch girl.
>>2833019I really don't see how or why anyone would believe that like, Joseph Smith was a prophet and found tablets telling a whole alternate history of the Americas–like why lol That's just obviously no true. I get that there are young-Earthers out there too who say God put the dinosaur bones in the ground as a test of faith but again, I think that's like probably 1,000 people globally, out of however many billion, it's truly the lunatic fringe, who believe any of that.
>>2833024there are more mormons on earth than jews fun fact
>>2833025We need Jewish space catapults to send those cunts flying off the face of the Earth then
>>2833025The thing that I didn't understand about mormons is how they managed to build a religion out of worshiping a pedophile who even raped his sons' wives. But then Trump came around and now I get it rightoids just worship power and there is no greater expression of power than being a unrepentent piece of shit and getting away with it.
>>2833001>moralism>>2833015Sorry but skinny=child and posting those pictures is illegal in the UK and Australia. So clearly we as a society must move forward by only having fat ugly girls in video games.
>>2833022>but it's kinda hard to have a pregnant protagonist in an action game where you get beat up.she has a adamantium belly
>>2833028The KKKatholiKKKs made a cult out of worshipping a paranoid schizophrenic who actually seriously believed that he was the son of god and could rise from the dead, and people still believe it to this day, even on here.
Shit like this is why religion is all inherently reactionary and should be actively struggled against, but none of you are willing to entertain that conversation because you're so ingrained in American fascistic ideology you think religion should get the kids gloves instead of the machine gun.
>>2833032>The KKKatholiKKKs made a cult out of worshipping a paranoid schizophrenic who actually seriously believed that he was the son of god and could rise from the dead, and people still believe it to this day, even on here. Yeah but, according to scripture Jesus lived his life fighting for the poor and was generally virtuous. Christianity is a slave religion developed by Jews to domesticate the Roman slave caste so they needed a holy figure that never rebelled and never broke the law and allowed the authorities to abuse him without fighting back. He was a "model slave" so to speak.
Mormonism is a religion built around a wealthy pedophile kidnapping and raping young women and then raping his grandchildren too. And this is part of their scripture. It's insane that anyone follows this religion.
Imagine an entire gender being so ugly the opposite gender actually conspire to make them look prettier in their video games
Couldn't be me
I do think that this is yet another example of old liberal talking points being disproven in real time, along with shit like AI. You "vote with your dollars" huh? Or maybe you get garbage you get crap no one asked for forced on you for a decade.
That said, the old standard wasn't big titty ladies, it was some cool guy action man. It is common sense for your main character to be of the same general demographic as the audience you are targeting, and generally "action man kills the bad guys" is a tried and true formula.
Maybe the biggest tell that something weird was going on was the way these female characters tend to look. Unlike the meme you keep seeing, they're not actually ugly, they're all just weirdly plain-faced. Keep in mind, they're pretty much never actually grounded characters meant to be a some kind of everywoman. They're still impossible, larger-than-life characters, but they look like some chick you'd see at the grocery store. At least if they were truly ugly, they might have a striking appearance. Here, they just look like some lady. Which is the last thing you want out of your player character. I wouldn't even pretend to know what the goal of this is, but it feels like its being done on purpose.
In fact, there's a lot of weird shit that media has been doing lately that no one asked for and doesn't seem to appeal to anyone, and no one even tries to defend beyond an "Emperor's New Clothes" situation, saying that it isn't really there or that you're a bad person for noticing. Which is a weird situation to have had going on for an extended period of time under a capitalist system where you would think that the name of the game would be shameless pandering.
>>2832977The platnerite tell us to touch grass. Ironic. You never work in field. You never work for real. You need to touch grass. You bernolf, you AOCitler, you blue maga. The platnerite say we macho. You weak like platner. Platner aint man. Platner raped women and children. We more man than every platnerite combined.
>>2833029> So clearly we as a society must move forward by only having fat ugly girls in video games.Unironically Mood
Caleb Maupin is one of the few the stars for this
>>2833046I'm fine with all 3 of these types of characters but I fucking wish game studios would stop using actors for their character designs. This is the root of the issue I think. They keep trying to enforce "realism" and bring in actors and then try to go into post-processing to make them look as "real" as possible by adding blemishes that don't exist on the real actor's face. It's all a fucking obsession with legitimizing video games as being identical to live action because the CEO's of these game companies are 60 year old white guys who think every new media form should be treated like Hollywood.
The backlash largely comes from "gamers" as a whole not being interested in realism, like at all. It doesn't matter if your main character is a male power fantasy or a coomer power fantasy or a female power fantasy, but it still has to be a power fantasy. There has to be some level of escapism for the player to want to engage with it. These "woke" games with ugly ass actor-modeled characters and endless qte's are flopping left and right, not because gamers are sexist but just because they fundamentally don't understand what a video game is supposed to be.
It's like if you tried to tell a pro wrestling fan that their favorite pro wrestlers are "unrealistic" for being huge bodybuilders and flippy 5'4 luchadors and we should replace them with lanklets and fatasses with no athleticism because it's more "relatable." Bitch no one wants relatability in their escapism they want cool larger-than-life power fantasies.
>>2833049Those chicks weren't really ugly. Was that the joke or something?
>>2833055>Those chicks weren't really uglythey never were
❤︎ >>2833046>I wouldn't even pretend to know what the goal of this is, but it feels like its being done on purpose.The intent is using the marketing 101 gospel where you appeal to people by making someone who looks like them show up in your ads. In this case they are trying to appeal to average women who are grocery store workers so they make the MC look as average as possible.
>>2833049I'm not even against having ugly or plain girls show up in media. We just don't need every single MC to be that way because of marketing identity politics dogma
>>2833049I am willing to fuck ugly hot women
>>2833047> Platner aint man. Platner raped women and children. We more man than every platnerite combined.trvke
Can someone explain who the fuck is Planter to an outsider and why he's so reviled
>>2833064Senatorial candidate from Maine, he’s the newest project of the Fight Back agency in the Democratic party which spawned AoC and Zohran Mamdani. He served three tours in the rape and murder of Iraqis under the official US banner and another two under Blackwater. Claims to be pro palestine and anti zionist despite having professional connections to Zionists. Has a Totenkamph tattoo and brags about “fucking hookers in Thailand”.
>>2833067> hookers in ThailandFinally someone of integrity
>>2833068They were probably underaged youth both cis and transgendered, still probably not as bad as what he did to the Iraqi women at his mercy
>>2833057NAH.
We need more of the same hyperrealistic uncanny valley art style zaZa
studio executive and shareholders need to keep trying to make video games be movies or cinematic so they can be models on smutbase for more sfm/blender porn of them.
Why doesnt trumpy just suspend congress the senate the courts and elections already id vote for that
>>2833074Because the pen to sign the paperwork won't fit between his fat sausage fingers
>>2833074The military isn’t willing to go along with that yet
>>2833073there's already other stylized Jack and Daxter ripoffs
ugly babes need love too
>>2833074because of the concept of consent of the governed and political mandates making democracy more convenient for fascism than outright dictatorship. when you can tell people "don't like the government? just wait 4 years and vote for a new one!" as an excuse for any fascist act it does a lot to deflate revolutionary activity from low autism score individuals. if Trump actually suspended the government and went full dictator mode the only recourse would be revolution for a lot of libs.
>>2832941Why stop at kik
Pedos have internet connection their fore if connected to apartnet modern version you are esptine
>>2833080why should anyone care about reddit posts?
i spent my teens calling people uyghurs and spamming tits or gtfo on /b/ in the 00's. who cares lol. the internet isn't real.
>>2833082Thats why bad empanada playist. The reddit is highly incriminating but his actual history is worse. The reddit of the babykiller reveals the babykiller psychology that the psychologists here like cpusanon are too afraid to delve into
>>2832942>come back to the thread while at the gym<“Sockkker”Holy fuck my sides
>>2833094Replied to the wrong post, ahh well. Sorry
>>2833086>moralism>>2833087It's so obvious these guys are going to institute a zionist dictatorship the first chance they think they are safe.
If any glowies are reading this you better get rid of this golem before he randomly decides to purge you because you aren't sucking Israeli dick enthusiastically enough. AIPAC might pay off the politicians to obey them but do they pay off you?
>>2833101Nobody saying this will happen has any actual reason as to why they would suspend elections when so far they had no negative effects
I could see it happening at some point, but it would be because not even 10% of the population decides to vote in the first place or something to that effect, rendering it pointless by association
>>2833064The greatest Amerikkkan leftist, and a fantastic reason why every communist should see any and all Amerikkkans as enemies if they're not 100% anti-Amerikkkan.
>>2833095Jacobin isn’t affiliated with DSA tho. A lot dislike it for being very socdem and the quality varying based on the individual author. And didn’t AOC recently support banning all weapons to Israel? Doesn’t excuse her past ambivalence ofc but it’s still somewhat disingenuous when Sawant’s own previous Trotskyist group has had a caucus within DSA for a while. And on top of that, there are so many barriers to creating a workers’ party that could actually begin to build a socialist republic that just saying “Dems bad break now” screams naïveté or stupidity (of course the majority wants to break from them)
>>2833109>Trotskyist group has had a caucus within DSAthey were the few good dsa :^)
>>2833101>the most fascist thing there is in the US regimeIt's mostly just fascist to foreigners. The leadership are liberals and are very vocally against any attempt to dismantle America's bourgeois republic. Trump simply doesn't have the ruling class or institutional support to do this because there is no serious threat that would warrant such a disruptive and risky move.
>>2833112He doesn’t have the support but to be honest I think he’s got the right combination of stupidity and narcissism to maybe try. Some kind of “everyone loves me! Why wouldn’t they want me to be a dictator?”
>>2833114>You see this exact thing out of Japan constantly with stuff like Resident Evil and Yakuza and no one complains since early ps2 dayshave you not seen the recent drama about Stranger Than Heaven? They put fucking Tupac and Snoop Dogg in a game set in Showa Japan lol. game devs both in japan and the west have completely lost the plot and are just incestuously trying to push celeb cameos and supermodels instead of making memorable characters. like, really who is gonna remember this actor-modeled Ashley compared to the original hand-modeled version? it's infuriating how much hollywood has infected video games with celebrity worship.
also don't post any takes from the breast milk bandit please.
Video games are a reactionary medium, everything revolves around the player protagonist who is essentially God and nothing moves without their input
Communism is the end of entertainment and culture, all that shit is just a band aid for alienation, music especially is a narcotic. Communism is sobriety.
you're a retard
also ashley is a 10/10 so idgaf
>>2833112>mostly just fascist to foreignersoh yeah, the Indigenous genocide, the 1985 MOVE bombing, The Ludlow Massacre (1914), The Detroit Uprising (1967), The Kent State Shootings (1970), The Jackson State Killings (1970), the 90s Los Angeles riots, none of them are prime example of how they are not 'mostly' fascist, but to foreigners only.
>>2833121It's about wanting to remove the artistic element from games. They want to make it no longer about expression and creativity but just selling you an experience.
>>2833123They did all that without abolishing Congress, elections, or the constituon. They don't need to do away with these things because there is no revolutionary threat that they are failing to contain. The military has been very clear that they have no interest in overturning America's ruling institutions. Its leadership aren't chuds, but Atlanticist NATO libs. They don't actually like Trump.
>>2833125Art isn’t even a good thing
>>2833126Haven't Trump and Hegseth been making a point of purging the high command of folks that aren't sufficiently loyal to the Trump personality cult? I think it's a safe bet that enough parts of the military will comply with a Trump auto-coup to make it work
>>2833129If work didn’t suck there would be no need for narcotics or entertainment. Communism is when work is life’s primary want, you wouldn’t need any form of escapism or creative expression, you wouldn’t just be happy.
>>2833130Iirc they've shuffled the postings but all the previous people retain their ranks. As a rule though the top Pentagon people aren't the kind of rubes that are taken in by chud shit. They're typically highly educated and have a thorough understanding of how the US empire actually functions, which Trump and his cronies do not. They can see as well as we can how badly he's damaged it with his incompetence. If anything I think they're more likely to stage a coup against Trump than go along with one led by him.
>>2833115>have you not seen the recent drama about Stranger Than Heaven?I did and it's not because they got an actor in. It's because they got a dead guy in there like he's an AI puppet and chuds aren't mad about that but the fact that it's a black guy in Japan which they hold as a uwu chungus white bastion of hope
>>2833132>Communism is when work is life’s primary wantuh…no
>>2833140Uh, yes, because you’ll be able to farm in the morning, hunt in the afternoon, and critique in the evening without being defined by any of them. There’s no point in any form of escapism in that world where there’s no coercion.
>>2833142if you could do whatever you want whenever you want it wouldn't be work in the sense of the labor social relation
>>2833123Amerindians were not citizens and the others were them putting down big protests and potential uprising. A truly fascist government would just directly kill off blacks and hispanics. They are obviously heading that way and preparing for it but are still not quite there yet.
>>2833136tbf it's strange when American liberals pretend the entire world has a 13% black population randomly scattered around a country. Maybe a medieval world would not have that same demographics as the slave importing American empire and it throws people out off?
>>2833142communism is about liberating workers to take charge of their own destiny. if you choose to spend your life working that's your prerogative, but don't project it onto others as the only possible life a communist can have. I want to do my 4-6 hour shift at the factory and then go home to spend the rest of my day with my beautiful (asian or black) wife playing video games and creating art and baking and doing whatever we feel like with the rest of our day. communism aims to give people MORE free time to lead fulfilling lives unshackled from wageslavery.
>>2833148All of what you do will contribute to the social product
>>2833148>(asian or black)no such thing
>>2833149I don't want my labor outside of work to be a product at all. I don't want anyone to consume it except myself and my (asian or black) wife.
And even if I did want to turn my labor into a product, it most certainly would be free to take and edit in whatever way anyone wishes without needing to give me credit so I can ideally be as far removed from it as possible. I don't want to be known or have the responsibility of providing a service or product and needing to maintain it. I've seen how people treat creators and the social responsibility that comes with it. That's something you do for a job, hobbies should be something you're free to pick up and drop whenever you want without responsibilities.
>>2833151You will never have a blasian wife
Also the institution of marriage makes no sense without property relations
>>2833154"race" is made up by capitalists to control you
>>2833150>>2833152I have faith in the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism to manifest me a half black Chinese national wife. Perhaps her father was a Chinese engineer who was hired to build factories and ports in Africa through the BRI where he met her mother. Seems plausible.
Why are you being a hater? Aren't we comrades?
>>2833157I’m no one’s comrade
>>2833176redistribute the titties to African women pls
>>2833176i am going to die alone
>>2833182nta but I think there's merit to the argument that it's obnoxious seeing Americans project their local politics onto other cultures and societies. both from the left and the right. if I'm playing a Japanese game I think I'd prefer an authentic Japanese experience and not an Americanized version of Japan. That said I just won't play the game tbh it's not a big deal. But if Ubisoft came out with an Assassins Creed game set during the Boxer Rebellion in China and you play a White guy leading the Society of Righteous and Harmonious Fists instead of a Chinese guy we'd probably find it pretty cringe, no?
>>2833146>it's strange when American liberals pretend the entire world has a 13% black population randomly scattered around a countryisn't stranger that shitlibs doing american media mostly decide to go blackface, indianface, latinoface, brownface when they depict history, even black characters from comic books, and so on?
I find it stranger indeed, when the US regime has a wider cultural diversity from where to produce, for example, Cleopatra (VII) with a black woman (anthropological evidence suggests that she was black, or a very dark beautiful lady😍🥰e, thus Mark Anbeautiful lady😍🥰y and Caesar had a chocolate fever).
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lol, wtf is that new filter?
so tоո, is now beautiful lady😍🥰
>a whale weights more than a beautiful lady😍🥰
>>2833196Κλεοπάτρα Θεά Φιλοπάτωρ was Greek
>>>/meta/45255help me complain about this absurdity
>>2833205if Italians aren't white, I can't imagine what Greeks are, and go figure those living in Egypt.
in any case, not a fucking blonde, no she wasn't lmao.
>>2833011>baby faceAsian look like that you shitlib white supremacist.
>>2833212I didn't say she was blonde. I said she was Greek. i.e. a medditerranean. South Europeans and North Africans look alike anyway. Olive skin, curly hair but not "nappy," usually brown eyes.
>>2833142>farm in the morning,AI robots will do all the farming
You are a fascist
>hunt in the afternoon,Animals will all die off because they take up resources we will take
You are a reactionary
>and critique in the eveningAI will write all the things to be criticized and the criticism
You are a fascist
>>2833196I mean, most Christoids picture the Bible lore happening with pasty Europeans still. The MSM, unless it is part of an explicit PR effort to the contrary, still tries to sell Israelis as mostly white Europeans as well. It's almost as funny as the effort to normalize neonazism through Ukraine.
It's not so much that the media follows the American script, it's that after so long doing that, we have fully adopted it and now it's ineffective to do otherwise. Like those ad campaigns with untranslated slogans which, after a time, become the brand to a bunch of people who don't even know the meaning. OR the same thing that happened with much of my parent's generation, growing up with English songs, singing/sounding them by ear while having no fucking idea of what is actually being said or the cultural context of it.
So now if you would translate the meaning, it would alienate the demographics who latched onto the import wholesale. Because they have already assigned their own meaning to these things. And explaining attacks their emotional investment, as cultural cargo-cultists.
>>2833196>anthropological evidence suggests that she was blackHotep wishcasting. All available evidence points to her as being one of the most inbred monarchs in history.
The worst thing about hollywood casting Taylor was she doesn't have the prominent Ptolemaic nose Cleo was famous for. Hooked nose girls deserve representation too!
>>2833219looked like rfk jr in the thumbnail
>>2833237 America's first and only trans dental president yass
What's fucked is when we bake the new thread this retarded new wordfilter mods came up with will fuck up Fred Hampt-o-n-'s name
>>2833196>anthropological evidence suggests that she was blackThis looks like a black lady to you?
Also, while Hollywood has always loved its stupid race-swaps, these days it typically does them the other way around.
>>2833237Georgeous Washingbeautiful lady😍🥰 PERIOD
i dont understand the joke behind the wordfilter is there some recent happening that it's related to or are the mods just insane
>>2833253>Go to a Christian Church in Korea and you'll find Korean Jesus.I've never seen Korean Jesus whats he look like?
>>2833243Fred Hampbeautiful lady😍🥰
michael harringbeautiful lady😍🥰
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