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Previous: >>2850507

The smoke wars edition.

Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740
https://azovlobby.substack.com/
https://banderalobby.substack.com/

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📺 • Ukraine: The Avoidable War - Boy Boy
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📺 • Ukraine's Nazi Problem - The Marxist Project
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📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0pyVJG7_6Q

📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8d6Vzi7zYg
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>>2863042
>it's just random drone debris falling down
Ah but the Russian government doesn't claim this, they do acknowledge that these are successful strikes by Ukraine, albeit neither confirming nor denying theories for how Ukraine has such reach and ability to avoid Russian defences.

Even if we ignore everything else in my post about being far too reliant on Ukraine's civilians' unending compliance with permawar, there's still a problem with the tactic in that attacks on oil refineries introduce enough stress to keep the Russian population invested in the conflict, but not necessarily enough to cry uncle.

So a big part of theorising about Ukrainian victory is assuming that Ukraine can do the Taliban thing (again, HUGE amount of respect for Ukraine here) and just outlast the Russian population's interest in the conflict by fighting a cheap, low skill war for decades. However Ukraine is not fighting a cheap, low skill war at all. The population of the US probably wouldn't tire of the War on Terror if the Taliban were pulling off mini 9/11s every month/week/day and isn't that essentially what the drone strikes even where they're least expected are intended to be?

So Ukraine collapse status?

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>>2862933
>How about no sane person gives a fuck or wants to be a part of this shit
>posts ITT anyway
yeah

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>>2862774
>two more weeks
no, 40 more days.
>>2862937
>I predict this war will last a couple decades
40 days, actually!

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>>2863054
>The population of the US probably wouldn't tire of the War on Terror if the Taliban were pulling off mini 9/11s every month/week/day and isn't that essentially what the drone strikes even where they're least expected are intended to be?
Well that is weird thing, is Russia in a war or not? Like the guy ITT who just posts "nuke Kiev plz" is onto something, because this apathetic attitude about what's going on is actually not normal, you should hate the other guy in the giant war. There's just a weird kinda don't care about anything attitude thanks to Putin with very weak reactions to anything, so why should I believe that the war is really existentially important for Russians? Maybe it's important to Putin, but if Russians had a view towards Ukrainians that the Ukrainians do towards Russians, maybe this whole thing would've been over already (more or less brutally). That's also what did the U.S. in during the Vietnam war as well, the population just didn't really understand why any of this shit was going on. Pro-Russia people will say Ukraine had restrictive language laws or something but that isn't going to cut it. But idk how it'll all shake out.

>>2863113
I mean I have to reject your point on the basis that the Russian military has sufficient manpower despite still having voluntary service for Ukraine.

As you mentioned earlier
>Putin just looked at him with a sigh said it's impossible for Russians to panic.
I think it's possible for the population to take the conflict seriously and be motivated to fight it and win it, without turning it into a bloodsport that people ought to enjoy spectating.

A ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine would be the “worst-case scenario” for Kiev, threatening the country’s statehood, the head of Vladimir Zelensky’s favored arms manufacturer, Fire Point, has said.

Denis Shitlerman made the remarks in an interview with Ukrainian outlet LIGAnet published on Wednesday. The company, which has recently been embroiled in multiple corruption scandals, stands to profit from the conflict. Shtilerman argued that the fighting should continue regardless, insisting that a truce with Moscow would leave Ukraine in an even worse position.

He also questioned whether Kiev’s Western backers would honor any security commitments made as part of a ceasefire.

“Look, if a truce is reached, it would – most regrettably – be the worst-case scenario for our state. We must remember how the US and other countries treat their obligations,” Shitlerman said. “I am talking about international agreements in which they guarantee the territorial integrity and independence of other states. And what do we see? Nothing,” he added.

Shitlerman also claimed that Kiev would be abandoned and “forgotten” by its backers should the hostilities cease. The arms maker somewhat echoed Moscow’s view insofar as Russian officials have repeatedly warned that Ukraine is useful for the West only as a tool against Russia rather than anything else.

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This has to be the fakest and gayest war in the history of mankind. The only redeeming quality is that both sides are dying. May it never end.

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Comical
>your honor, I investigated myself, and I found no evidence to blame me, therefore I declare myself innocent.
let's see if merz and germans in general will accept this or do something about it.

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>>2862715
>>2862716
>>2862726
>>2862728
>>2862730
titties budanov leaving his two cents in the ТЦК localized riot.
https://nitter.net/Kyrylo_Budanov/status/2075122101233623429
filled with so much ukranian love.

>In Lvov, police and civilians detained participants in a riot against the TCC.
>Participants in the mass protests in Lvov who overturned a military commissar's car were forced to shout "Glory to the TCC."
>One of them turned out to be an active duty soldier.

oh wow.

Remember first picrel?
>she appeared shot dead in the streets of Kiev.
(second picrel)


>The prosecutor's office is requesting the arrest without bail for GUR officer Vladislav Reut, who confessed to the murder of Berezovskaya, the organizer of the assassination attempt on oligarch Yermolaev in Monaco.


>His accomplice is Vitaly Zhikovich, a former law enforcement officer.


>A torture chamber was found in the basement of his home.

allegedly, the kiev regime 'captured the responsible' yeah, yeah.
third and fourth picrel.
I love how middle rank officials work solo, without state help of any kind, lmao.

>>2863466
Budanov was literally trained by the CIA. He's an asset.

>>2863456
it was murica though, i trust hersh on that

>>2863466
dude gets fatter everytime hes on camera

>>2863487
anti-zigger anons will ignore this and fake grillpill will talk about how much cock he sucked recently

>>2863487
>we need to take back donbass because it's part of ukraine, russia is occupying it and genociding the ukrainians, 2014-2022 civil war never happened
<no armed resistance in the occupied territories
<manages to provoke riots in the actually ukrainian-speaking, greek catholic territories with no historical ties to russia

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making friends as usual, GARFIELF

>>2863456
UA had a motive and they have the mindset to do it, however i too believe Hersh was correct as Biden and Trump basically both admitted it at one point. DK & SE acted in the aftermath very suspicious (to put it mildly) with regards to on-site investigations, which fits well with Hersh's version too.

>>2863384
>Shitlerman
oh wow

>>2863500
It actually proves that ukrainian proles are more human than russians since they rise up against the bourgeois using them for war instead of being eternally cucked

>Ukranian nazi regime getting more protests than Russia
Lamo

>>2863539
Nazi regimes don't get protests they imprison everyone doing this kinda like when putin the pinochet praiser cracked down on the russian anti war movement and made criticism of the war illegal with the threat of 15 years of prison

>>2863487
>"Glory to the TCC."
Humiliation ritual

>>2863064
12 more years of not having gasoline.

I heard russian ambulances have no fuel and people are dying before reaching the hospital.

>>2863588
it's true they're even burning the patients for fuel just to get to the next one

>>2863541
The only reason these young men were not killed or sent to prison is because they are of fighting age, and the army needs the bodies.
>>2863576
>Humiliation ritual
Always is with these freaks. It's so vile.

>>2863538
>>2863541
>them protesting and getting years thrown into prison for it proves russia is worse i am very smart
no it doesnt. but it does make pro-ukrops look hypocritical as fuck lol. fake grillpill also stating he had no problems with the tcc and not getting the hint was also quite hilarious tbh.

>>2863669
and it also proves that "ukraine should lose but russia shouldnt win" is really the only decent position you can hold as a communist. its dialectical you see

Due to being a sex tourist allegedly fleeing his boring life back home, I think I’ll refer to not-grillpill as.. grillTHRILL

The fuck is that guy at anyway? Fleeing Lvov perhaps?

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"What if Putin uncucked the first day of the war"

Burner drone damage to Russian oil ship. Doesn't look like very effective because oil industries by necessity are dealing with a lot of fires, so drones that try to burn oil refineries or ships fight an uphill battle with damage easily repairable

>>2863576
I don't know who thought it was a great idea to parade arrested people on the street, and forcing them to praise the same institution that they detested, but this will only increase the general resentment.

>>2863678
maybe he was busy beating those young men asses in Lvov.

People suspected of taking part in an anti-draft riot in Lviv, Ukraine were apparently intimidated into apologizing on camera, according to disturbing videos shared by military-linked activists.

The unrest in the western Ukrainian city occurred Wednesday, when dozens of people attacked a draft patrol that allegedly abused a potential recruit. The footage suggests that extrajudicial measures were subsequently used to suppress discontent.

One video that went viral on Thursday shows a visibly shaken young man on the verge of tears admitting to wrongdoing and saying he would accept any punishment. It appears to have been filmed in a secluded location and was released by a serving military officer following a “disciplinary conversation” with the alleged rioter.

Another video published by a military veteran shows a group of young men being forced to shout “glory to the TCK” and apologize. Ukrainian military offices that enforce compulsory conscription are known as Territorial Centers of Recruitment and Social Support (TCK).

The veteran wrote that Lviv will not be allowed to become the “planet of the apes.” He suggested that the harsher parts of the “disciplinary conversation” could not be posted because Facebook would censor them, and threatened “more terrifying things” for those who played a more active role in the disturbance. He added that legal proceedings could follow if officials decide to pursue them.
https://swentr.site/russia/642830-anti-conscription-rioters-crackdown/

>>2863729
I’ve noticed in the footage of drone strikes on those tankers in the Azov Sea trying to ship supplies to Crimea, they all targeted the bridge rather than the cargo itself.

Which should be risky because these are Le SpoOkY ShADow fLeeT tankers that have a multinational crew, Russian crew often even being the minority and thus purposely targeting the bridge is almost certainly going to result in killing non-Russian civilians, but then I remember the Ukrainians already killed a crew of Azerbaijanis like this to absolutely no consequence.

>>2863588
Doubt it as even in crimea authorities have plenty of gasoline. Its civilians who suffer.

>>2863539
>Ukranian nazi regime getting more protests than Russia
maybe because even nazis like lubinets recognize the tcc are a bunch of psychos.
>1st video lubinets doing the admission.
>2nd video lubinets nazism.

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>>2863541
>Nazi regimes don't get protests they imprison everyone doing
those youngster are getting something worse than prison: they are getting mobilized.
>>2863588
it's been one month since the restrictions started to be eased in Russia.
and the regions like Oryol with restrictions still, are considering to lift them. the only one not considering to lifting the restriction is Crimea.
but Crimeans endured like 7 years without water because of the banderite regime. this is a lesser nuisance for them.

>>2863680
that'd be really funny, tbqfh. to replace the capital of ukraine with lvov would be the last nail on the coffin of a state once known as 'ukraine'.

>>2863385
>This has to be the fakest and gayest war in the history of mankind.
But think about all the innovations in science and technology, and also the arts. Behold.

>>2863746
>Le SpoOkY ShADow fLeeT tankers
They are in the shadows and you're laughing?

>>2863769
That is true. This war has created many great works in the realm of the arts.

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> "To the question: 'Do you feel the impact of the mid-strikes operations on the front?', most of UP's interlocutors among commanders and servicemen of various levels—from the Konstantynivka, Kramatorsk, Sloviansk, Aleksandriya, and Pokrovsk directions—helplessly shrug their shoulders.

>"No effect, absolutely none," a UP officer from the 19th Corps, operating in the Konstantynivka direction, tells UP.


>"What mid-strikes? We're paratroopers; the only thing we can feel on our own skin is Russian 'Molniyas' and FPVs," a reconnaissance soldier from one of the DShV (Air Assault Troops) brigades, which is currently conducting offensive operations in the Aleksandriya direction, replies to UP."


>"Everything happening now in Konstas (Konstantynivka) is one-to-one what was happening in Pokrovsk a year ago. There, my unit was held until the end in the Shakhterska district. They told us that clearances were ongoing, but we saw what it all looked like," recalls a UP interlocutor from the 5th Assault Brigade about Pokrovsk in 2025.


>"They are hunting pilots; we can't bring them into the city—they simply can't work there. We value infantry, we're raising their pay, but infantry without drone operators is nothing. Do you know how many pilots we've already lost in Konstas?" adds the serviceman."


https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2026/07/08/8042933/

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pfffftttt_british_laugh.gif

Would lenin be against the annexation of crimea? Why didnt russians in former ukrainian territories push for self determination themselves before annexation? Could it be that they saw ukraine as still a kind of part of current russian empire? Maybe ukraine is an opressed nation and russia is an opressor nation.

>>2864109(me)
Crimean russians were settlers while donbassian russians are opressed nation of sorts. Therefore donbassians are opressed nation that were opressed by ukr and then by russians.

I actually heard from some ukr historian boomer how russians arent a nation but an imperial ethnicity or something.

Did khrushev commit annexation by giving crimea to ukr? Why nobody reversed it? Why did Khrush spit on the established borders based on people's self determination?


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