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theres a draft riot in kiev and several other cities rn
NAFO on X is again autodoxxing themselves.
>>2850510>Draft Riots Sweep Kiev Amid Mobilization Crisis
>Kyiv, Ukraine – July 15, 2026 – Violent anti-mobilization riots erupted in Kyiv, Lviv, Odesa, Dnipro, and Kharkiv today, as protesters clashed with police and Territorial Recruitment Center (TCC) officers. Crowds overturned recruitment vehicles, set barricades on fire, and blocked roads in scenes reminiscent of the 2014 Maidan protests.
>The unrest follows years of war fatigue in the five-year conflict. Ukraine’s Armed Forces face severe manpower shortages, with estimated military casualties between 500,000 and 600,000 (killed, wounded, and missing) since 2022. Authorities are seeking around 2 million men for draft registration violations, amid reports of aggressive TCC raids on streets, gyms, and public transport.
>A controversial new mobilization law tightening exemptions for men aged 25-60 and extending service terms triggered the explosion of anger. Protesters chanted against “endless war” and demanded demobilization for exhausted troops. At least 8 deaths and over 50 injuries have been reported so far across the cities.
>President Zelenskyy’s office condemned the violence as “unacceptable” while promising investigations into recruitment abuses. The riots highlight deep societal strain, with over 6.8 million Ukrainians having fled the country since the invasion.
>Curfews are now in effect in affected areas as tensions remain high. >>2850510>>2850510Meh, unless they are all armed to the teeth, they won't change much. the ukrainan state has efficiently suppressed all opposition. you can't fight if you are starving, you starve if you aren't connected to the state (and most are sent to die to the front).
reason why the EU won't be cutting that funding. they can't let the world know ukr is a failed state that can't sustain itself alone.
meanwhile in Sumy.
Inter neo-nazi libshit war
Rubio believes no final agreements reached in AnchorageDOHA, June 25. /TASS/. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said that Russian President Vladimir Putin and his US counterpart Donald Trump failed to secure any final agreements on Ukraine settlement at their meeting in Anchorage.
"There was no agreement in Alaska. There was a proposal in Alaska, but there was no agreement in Alaska. If there had been an agreement, we would have had an end to the war," Rubio told journalists in Manama, the capital of Bahrain, in the course of his state visit.
https://tass.com/world/2151517 >>2850548Sorry but nobody said that multipolarity and total US hegemony death would be nice to anybody.
>>2850548If they are both equally bad then why does USA side with Ukraine? That alone should tell you all you need to know.
>>2850552Because the US is a competing imperialist bloc against Russia. By your logic the Marxist position in WWII was to side with Imperial Japan.
https://x.com/OlgaBazova/status/2069843118120378666
>Mash reports that Ukraine has lost 2.4 million soldiers in the four years of the SMO, more than 400,000 of them in 2026. These figures were obtained by our hackers from the databases of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, TCC centers, Ukrainian medical organizations and morgues.
>By August 2025, the number of eliminated soldiers reached 1.7 million — by December, the figure exceeded 2 million. In the first six months of 2026, the AFU lost as many soldiers as they did in all of 2023 — approximately 400,000. The highest number of deaths occurred on the Pokrovsk, Konstantinovka, Liman, Zaporozhye, and Kupyansk fronts — each of them averaging 500 AFU militants killed per day. The most deaths occurred in the 72nd and 110th Motor Rifle Brigades, airborne assault brigades, and territorial defense forces.
>Deaths of foreign mercenaries are no longer recorded among the casualties — they are all attributed to accidents. According to our information, the number of foreigners killed in the Ukrainian Armed Forces is close to five thousand. The figure continues to rise, as the TCC regularly replenishes the ranks of militants with foreigners — 5-6 of whom are recruited by each TCC center in Kiev alone, including many young men (20-23 years of age on average) from Argentina and Brazil.
>The Ukrainian databases were hacked by PalachPro hackers and the NoName057 group (16) — these are the same guys who used AI to hack into 50,000 surveillance cameras for surveillance in the Ukraine and EU. >>2850555That's a really dumb thing to say anon. I won't quote you in case you want to do yourself the service of deleting it before others see it.
>>2850558We are to believe Russia killed the whole army of ukraine and then some but still struggles to take bumfuck nowhere villages. Bruh the propaganda has to be a little believable
Our response /cuck/bros?
>>>/siberia/799309>>2850555>Because the US is a competing imperialist bloc against Russia. USA is the current dominate capitalist power and has suppressed communists around the world for decades. Russia weakens the dominate block giving more opportunities to communists. Both China and North Korea support Russia for the same reason.
>By your logic the Marxist position in WWII was to side with Imperial Japan.Weird leap. I don't get your reasoning either.
>>2850570>Russia weakens the dominate block lol, lmao even
>>2850563In order for a competing imperialist bloc to be worth offering any support to in specific contexts (Such as Iran) they have to be fighting for something that matters. What is Russia fighting for? They're in an inter-imperialist war built on GWoT-teir justifications. They accelerated an existing power struggle into a full blown major war that's killed 500,000 people in an attempt to make Ukraine a Russian puppet state instead of a Western puppet state.
>>2850568Don't even bother. I've spent days hearing your arguments and none of it has managed to win me over.
>>2850570China also supports the Fascist junta in Myanmar, should I bow down to them too? China is basically as pro-Israel as it is pro-Russia so I suppose I should join the IDF, right? And as for Japan, it was a competing imperialist bloc to the United States. It was an emerging imperial power that threatened the existing European dominated world order. Let's say it's 1938 and the USSR wasn't there to point you in the right direction. Do you think you would have the moral clarity to recognize the Japanese invasion of China as being wrong? The RoC was being supported by Nazi Germany after all, and Japan spoke at length about opposing European colonialism. Doesn't that mean they deserve our total support?
>>2850575>>2850570And one more thing, not every Socialist had the moral clarity to oppose Japan even with the USSR's position guiding them. DuBois thought Imperial Japan was great, how certain are you that you wouldn't also be repping the rising sun? I think you should seriously reconsider how willing you are to throw support at anything that opposes the US, lest you become like that one Italian Communist Party that endorsed ISIS.
>>2850575>In order for a competing imperialist bloc to be worth offering any support to in specific contexts (Such as Iran) they have to be fighting for something that matters. What is Russia fighting for? They're in an inter-imperialist war built on GWoT-teir justifications. They accelerated an existing power struggle into a full blown major war that's killed 500,000 people in an attempt to make Ukraine a Russian puppet state instead of a Western puppet state.You're very confused.
>>2850576>>2850558the sad part is that no one will mourn them.
>>2850565struggles? they took Konstantinovka in a such a short glimpse of time, compared to a smaller big town like Artyomovsk, and I am sure that by the end of this year of 2027 all Donetsk is taken.
>>2850555>By your logic the Marxist position in WWII was to side with Imperial Japan.They of course are not equally bad, while both were certainly imperialists. Japan and Germany got the short end of the stick imperial games. They would have sought to make their bourgeoisie more profitable by taking resources and cracking down on every population they would have conquered and as well as their own.
Both countries were in a revolutionary moment after WW1 and victims of British and American imperialism, but all the anger and loss of national self esteem got co-opted by fascists. In the end their populations got suicided for profits. Ukraine same way was gotten shafted since the 90s by the west. All the anger and resentment was channeled to hate the moskal for Ukrainian decline, poverty and corruption. Now the populations get shoveled to meatgrinder for Nato. Really speaks about the necessity of being ready to educate and organize the people when the time comes.
>>2850570>Russia weakens the dominate block giving more opportunities to communists.True. If it didn't, this conflict wouldn't be happening. The US has admitted as much, explicitly and implicitly. Not to mention its increasingly Asia-oriented outlook undermines US imperial designs there, whether by materially supporting states the US is opposed to, by economically cooperating with them, or at the very least by forcing NATO to expend expensive or otherwise irreplaceable equipment in the fighting in Ukraine.
>>2850586>the sad part is that no one will mourn them.Alas.
>>2850581Euromaidan happens, NATO makes some calls and the next thing you know Neo-Nazis have couped the government. Ukraine fully enters US sphere of influence, then Russia fights a proxy war with NATO in Donbas and hopes to take out Ukraine's US-backed government once and for all in 2022. NATO basically refuses to take any measures to prevent this either because they were allergic to compromising or because they recognized that an invasion is a retarded idea and (regardless of who wins in the end) Russia would be severely weakened by the war. The war turns out to be a failure, NATO pressures Ukraine not to accept an early peace deal in order to bog down Russia, and now it's a stalemate where any victory is phyrric. Russia is highly likely to win in the end, but the entire conflict was pointless and Russia's decision to invade has destroyed many, many lives and Russia isn't even going to benefit from the entire conflict because of how severe the losses have been. Tell me where I'm wrong.
>>2850555>By your logic the Marxist position in WWII was to side with Imperial Japan.ngl pearl harbor was kinda goated
>>2850575>In order for a competing imperialist bloc to be worth offering any support to in specific contexts (Such as Iran) they have to be fighting for something that matters. The only point is to weaken imperialism and not help it. For Russians this war is very clearly a war against western encroachment into Ukraine and Russia and not just a Putin's fancy with no real point, just like western liberals seem to think. It doesn't really even mean if Russia is openly fascistic/not progressive or not. Russian loss just means that it gets reintegrated into Nato/western imperialist block with Ukraine and Russian fascists will be replaces with western appointed fascist, Russians and Ukrainians get crushed and they and probably the world will get 50 more years of burgerreich dark ages. Russian victory would be a blow to western imperialism and would at least raise Russian consciousness against imperialism and maybe it could save Ukraine from being bled dry.
>>2850598Russia's whole plan is to bleed Ukraine dry you fucking retard oh my god
>>2850596>proudhon therecoal
>>2850572Being a drain of hundreds of billions of dollars worth of resources and weapons is weakening them and already causing internal problems. Now western Europe can't even turn on air conditioners while USA's real economy is collapsing as they pray the AI gods will save them.
>>2850575>>2850579Life is not a test of moral character. You either win and enact your ideals or die a slave. So sometimes in order to win you have to do things you don't morally like.
First of all, blind endorsement or total support of capitalists isn't the way to win. However using various enemies against each other is fine.
Therefore I would have supported Imperial Japan as a counter balance to the western imperialism if they didn't already side with Nazi Germany. It takes large organized military machine to fight off large organized military machines. That is why irl the USSR ended up siding with British Empire, French Empire and American Empire against Germany. Germany at the time was an existential threat to the USSR so joining with some competing imperial powers against others was the logical conclusion.
Russia, a country in recession now, didn't even take the Donbass in 5 years while expending all their soviet shit not killing one american soldier, meanwhile 2 countries joined NATO which is now massively spending on their military. Because Russia was over extended they just watched Gaza get genocided, Assad toppled, Maduro captured and Vemezuela kneel to the US, with Cuba now on the line. This whole stupid campaign made the "dominant" faction of capitalism stronger and Russia weaker, the only silver lining is the imbecility of Trump but Russiagate is a hoax so we have to thank the american people for that really
>>2850591>Tell me where I'm wrong.Well, thing one, Euromaidan doesn't "just happen." You make this all sound like it just fell out of the sky, as though these nazis just spung up from the ground after Nato "makes some calls." That's an awfully convenient way to just ignore that it was Nato harboring, supporting, and cultivating these Nazis throughout the Cold War. It's an awfully convenient way to ignore that the destruction or otherwise subjugation of Russia has been an avowed policy goal of Washington since the 90s. It's an awfully convenient way to obfuscate that the expansion of Nato since the end of the Cold War has happened step by step with the overt purpose of isolating, engaging, and ultimately in defeating Russia on its way to vanquishing China and securing its global hegemony for at least the following century.
And that's all aside from the specific events that precipitated Euromaidan, and during it, all of which the US and Nato had a direct hand in.
>>2850599That's Nato's plan actually.
>>2850602You read too much yankee propaganda
>>2850611Bro two anti imperialist countries have fallen to the US in the time Russia took to get to the center of a midsize town. If I was a Russian chauvinist I would just kill myself or bomb the kremlin at this point
>>2850612You read way too much yankee propaganda. You should spend more time reading theory, of all sorts.
>>2850606>That's an awfully convenient way to just ignore that it was Nato harboring, supporting, and cultivating these Nazis throughout the Cold War.Was it not basically implied that NATO is behind the Nazi presence in Ukraine? Also Russia does not have a right to invade 3rd world countries under the guise of "Self defense". Russia has fucking nukes, they don't need to start major wars to keep themselves from getting invaded or overthrown or whatever. Invading Ukraine was about enriching its own bourgeoisie more than anything else, that's how wars work. Even Iran is fighting for its bourgeoisie, but at least its war effort is keeping its proles from even worse conditions under an Israeli-US puppet state. Russia is just fighting over who gets to be the master of a Ukrainian puppet state, much to the detriment of the proles in Ukraine.
>>2850609No shit you fucking retard.
>>2850601>Therefore I would have supported Imperial Japan as a counter balance to the western imperialism if they didn't already side with Nazi Germany.If I need to sell my organs to make enough money to pay the admins to shut this website down I will do it
>>2850624>Russia has fucking nukes, they don't need to start major wars to keep themselves from getting invaded or overthrownIf Ukraine keep building up it's NATO funded military and later invaded, Russia wouldn't launch nukes because that region is their breadbasket and the fallout could drift into their own country. Preemptive invasion was the smart move even if Putin fucked up the execution.
>If I need to sell my organs to make enough money to pay the admins to shut this website down I will do itNo counter argument, huh?
>>2850624>Was it not basically implied that NATO is behind the Nazi presence in Ukraine? It was "basically implied" that you buy the western propaganda and implicitly absolve it of its role in creating this whole conflict.
>Also Russia does not have a right to invade 3rd world countries under the guise of "Self defense".Oh, sorry, I mean explicitly absolve it.
Like, you can't honestly take everything Nato has done up to and including acknowledging that Nato had picked out a Nazi government to do its bidding, which is explicitly to attack Russia, and then also trot out the Nato canard about Russia "not having the right to invade a third world (???) country in the guise of 'self defense'." You're just being dishonest at that point. You're just saying that Nato can do anything it wants to whoever it wants and no one else can fight back, while trying to act like this current conflict not only came from nowhere, but that the fault lies with the actual targets of people that have already suffered from imperialist attacks on their country.
So you're either mistaken and misguided, or you're an actual liar here to carry water for Nato. Which is it?
>>2850628Not to mention that even before the invasion Zelensky was threatening to get nuclear weapons to use against Russia.
https://mronline.org/2022/03/05/ukraine-nukes/ >>2850591>>Tell me where I'm wronghere
>>Russia is highly likely to win in the endRussia has already lost. The US got exactly what they wanted, they got 2 retard shards of the USSR to fight and bleed each other, without losing a single American soldier.
It's crazy how the threadsliders from sharty almost never touch the Russian Ukraine thread.
>>2850628>>2850633>If Ukraine keep building up it's NATO funded military and later invadedYou think Ukraine was going to launch an invasion of Russia in 2022? LMFAO. You're fucking retarded. Yeah I'm sure Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine was going to invade Russia. I've heard all of this shit before, you have no proof, fuck off.
>No counter argument, huh?Well you soid that you'd side with Imperial Japan were it not backed by Nazi Germany so you basically admitted that you would have supported their invasion of China since Nazi Germany was not yet backing Japan at the time. I think there's no point in arguing over what Marxism is with a Neo-Nazi.
>and then also trot out the Nato canard about Russia "not having the right to invade a third world (???) country in the guise of 'self defense'." "That's actually le wrong because somebody I don't like said it" Okay man. Yes, Ukraine is third world, its development was and is in line with the more developed 3rd world countries. Brazil has a higher HDI than Ukraine. And no I don't think a country has a right to invade another country just because their government is evil, this is what I meant when I referred to "GWoT-tier justifications". You're basically just a Neoconservative.
>You're just saying that Nato can do anything it wants to whoever it wants and no one else can fight backIf the only way Russia can "Fight back" is by accomplishing nothing and killing half a million people then no, I don't think it's worth it.
>but that the fault lies with the actual targets of people that have already suffered from imperialist attacks on their country.Ukrainians?
>>2850646>"That's actually le wrong because somebody I don't like said it" Okay man. Dishonest and arguing in bad faith. If you actually felt how you say you do then you wouldn't be pretending nato didn't invade Ukraine. You're just here to spout nato propaganda, not someone worth actually talking with.
Enjoy watching your pet nazis lose the war, loser ♡
>>2850646>You think Ukraine was going to launch an invasion of Russia in 2022? "2022" was never written once in my post. I only said it would happen sometime in the future no specific date. Even just a few more years of Ukraine building up their NATO funded military would have put Russia at a huge disadvantage. It would have been dumb to wait.
>you basically admitted that you would have supported their invasion of China since Nazi Germany was not yet backing Japan at the time.Imperial Japan invading Fascist China is what allowed the communists to win the civil war. The outside invasion gave communist the ability to build up their forces all while the nationalists suffered huge losses.
>there's no point in arguing over what Marxism is This isn't about Marxism. I'm talking practical politics and you are talking abstract moralism disconnected from the real world.
>le """""anti-campists""""" (NATO leftists) still going on in the year of our Lord 2025
le sharty boogeyman
>and I am sure that by the end of this year of 2027 all Donetsk is taken.
Whoa! By the end of the century maybe another oblast as well?
>>2850719>>2850691Russia is winning.
Your (NATO) response?
>>2850572NATO eating shit is funny, yes.
Inter-imperialist war guys
Le interimperialist conflict
"Fight against the imperialism is a sham and a humbug" - Lenin.
If Ukraine defeats Russia and in turn becomes the new "second military of the world" and maybe even too powerful as the drone superpower for the US to be comfortable with, will you then turn on Ukraine for no longer being smol nation? Or will you commit to Ukraine's right to exist even when they've still got now-victorious Neo-Nazis in important positions and they still have the ability to strike 2000km outside of their borders including their western border? What if they become the drone grandmaster in NATO's conquering of Africa to deny the Chinese a continental market that belongs to west by right of former colonialism?
There's a lot of fear mongering about what Russia is capable of if victorious in Ukraine, but ideas of what a Ukrainian victory looks like is suspiciously undiscussed. All the Nazi salutes and honouring of genocides are dismissed as "they're just at war right now bro" as though it's assured they'll just drop all of that as soon as they've won. Someone ITT claimed there was going to be a "rebuild fund" for Ukraine, but what if that doesn't happen and NATO states start demanding loan repayments instead? What if countries like Poland who share a border with them or Hungary and Slovakia who use oil pipelines that run through Ukraine decide they don't want Ukraine in the EU or NATO simply because Kiev has proven itself hostile, does the Nazi saluting rhetoric return? What happens if Russia's supposedly ravaged oil infrastructure can no longer supply Ukraine who prior to 2014 used to get away with syphoning off oil and gas without payment?
Nah lets just assume they'll miraculously build wholesome social liberal society on a budget of negative $500 billion.
Lmao we know what the answer is already, it's because post-war Ukraine is an irrelevancy. If they collapse then oh well, their sacrifice wasn't in vain and if they don't but become unruly then NATO can crush them in 24 hours by just turning off the money hose, right?
Either way they never had to commit to neutrality between NATO and Russia, which is comparable to being expended by NATO to fuck Russia off for even asking about a neutral zone, better to die free than live as slave amirite anti-campists?
>>2850784If recent leaks are to be believed, Ukraine managed to expend over 2 million soldiers in those 26 kilometres.
I hope whoever strings up Cucktin once this mess is over and done with immediately proceeds with Total Euroid Nuclear Annihilation afterwards.
Small Smokey fire over Kiev yesterday despite claims all Russian missiles were shot down, anyone want to get really overexcited about that? No?
>>2850587Critical support for Nazi Germany against USA imperialism.
>>2850784Well my uktainians hackers with blurry screenshots said 26 millions russians died for this
>>2850667NATO overthrew the Ukrainian government but no, they did not invade them. Words actually have meanings.
>>2850685I am anti-NATO
>>2850669>Imperial Japan invading Fascist China is what allowed the communists to win the civil war. Bro… shut the website down… it's over
>I hate the CIA but I would NEVER EVER oppose its armed outposts as long as the right words are flashed in front of me
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