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>>2864738 I'm a communist who also has sex
That's why I'm voting for the DSA
>>2866288adulthood is when you watch marvel and collect funko pops
>>2866294adulthood is when you bring up m*rvel c*mics and f*nko p*s unprompted on USApol in every argument
>>2866297What is the third?
MAKE SURE TO READ THE TRUTHhere:
>>2866180 Adulthood is when you realize that getting a girlfriend is more interesting/fun/exciting then waiting around for the โrevolutionโ that will either never happen or require a fucking apocalypse that kills billions of innocent people to happen, lol.
>Hey babe you wanna go free the proletariat
>Nah lemme just play with your pussy a bit longer
>>2866301you have to be 18 to post here
>>2866307What does this vanguard party actually do tho?
>>2866309Hand out newspapers and serve as a perpetual excuse for increased military and police budgets, write posts
>>2866307You realize the only people wiling to join your thousandth microsect are feds and the mentally ill right? You lost this war 100 years ago
>>2866309JAQoff
>>2866310irony poisoned
>>2866311>feds and the mentally ill right? You lost this war 100 years agoWhat's the difference
>>2866303I donโt think she gives a crap about politics, lol. That is one of the many things that gives her such a cutesy innocent vibe which combined with her extremely cute looks makes her so attractive to me. I think I subconsciously had gotten sick of this depressing dark edgy political shit and was searching for someone to get me away from it, and that is partially why I fell in love with her. Even if it does not work with her, she has inspired me to do something completely different and much better with my life (move out of my parents basement so I can get a girlfriend) then sitting on the internet all day reading about edgy politics, lmao.
>>2866307So what vanguard party is this S4A guy in? Is he buiding one since he has studied the revolution manual so thouroughly?
>>2866314You and your dumb friends arenโt going to overthrow the government unless you literally are the government. Youโd need to convince the CIA you demonize to be on your side for a coup, the only way โregime changeโ would be possible.
>>2866317We're not dumb, unlike you
>>2866318>my inability to function is actually my moral superiority If you lived in the Byzantine empire you would have died 48 hours after kissing lepers
>>2866319Says the neo weatherman
>>2866317>if W, X>if X, Y>therefore, Zeveryone is sick of your snake tongued fake reasoning
>>2866321>there's options other than weathermen shit and voting democrat<like what>like leninism<that's weatherman shit!!!!no it isn't
You know all this communist content slop, reminds me of all those business/investing/writing/whatever advice stuff. Like how the hell are you going to teach me the theory of something you haven't proven you can do yourself?
>>2866320Medieval times were, for all their faults, 1000x more stable than the current global system.
>>2866325There has never been a successful revolution, all failed in their goals of ultimate liberation and end up recuperated into the status quo
So which is the current American vanguard party? Has there ever been one before? Why did they fail and how will you do it differently?
>>2866327The instability is how capitalism thrives, itโs the biggest asset, not the flaw. Also itโs planned instability.
>>2866323>>2866324The working class donโt want communism, they want to be and largely are petit bourgeois
>>2866329Let's broaden it even. Tell me who is the number one vanguard party anywhere in the developed world who is closest to successfully following Lenin's step by step plan to fruition?
>>2866325> what have been the most succesful revolutionsFor better or worse the US government established by "revolution" in 1776 lasted the longest. It lasted longer than Cromwell's government, Robespierre's government. L'ouverture's government, Napoleon's government, most of Bolivar's governments, Lenin's government, Tito's government, and so on.
But people dispute whether it was really revolutionary. Truly it established a chameleon bourgeois regime capable of adapting to new times and reconfiguring itself to stay legitimate. But we are finally reaching the limits of that I hope.
>>2866307This is a great strategy for third world periphery countries whose military/intelligence/law enforcement lack high tech 21st century ISR capabilities (this is why every successful communist revolution happened in a third world country), but this is a highly antiquated strategy for America and Western Europe, where larping as the bolsheviks will get you dead or in jail. I am much more interested in trying to get a girlfriend (preferably the cute girl from the theatre class, but I will eventually settle for someone vastly inferior so I am not lonely, depressed, and miserable forever) then larping that I live in 1917 Russia, lol.
>>2866331anyone notice how this schizo always just blurts out unproven statements that aren't even responses to the previous post.
>I'm thirsty<cats don't even want food and never willthat's what a conversation with you is like
>>2866336You just donโt have the brain power to make the connections
>>2866336What he said is true of the aspirational, reactionary and non-class conscious part of the proletariat. Also of the lumpen.
Rags to riches is a beloved story template for a reason. People believe its easier to individually become rich than to change society to benefit the workers.
>>2866337you've been banned 100 times. all you do is ruin conversations. you are awfully invested in doing this for someone who believes things are so hopeless. just fuck off to a hobby site and circlejerk yourself into a coma
>>2866338> What he said is true of the aspirational, reactionary and non-class conscious part of the proletariat.Which has been the consistent majority of working class people in the United States for its entire history, including in its unions
>>2866340>he thinks this isnโt a hobbysiteHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>2866340I donโt think things are possible here in this hermetically sealed bubble reality, thankfully thereโs a world outside of it
>>2866341Doesn't that make it important to spread class-consciousness and fight anti-communist rhetoric though? where the people lack class consciousness and also have anti-communist brainworms you'll have fertile ground for reactionary politics, so solving that problem should be important.
>>2866346This is evangelism, not materialism. The fact is itโs far easier to become petite bourgeois or a labor aristocrat than it is to start a union, let alone a non socdem union (as if such a thing is possible beyond rhetoric)
>>2866348>it's easierbuddy they're taking homes from petty booj in georgia to give to data centers
petty booj business bankruptcy rates climb every year
labor aristos and petty booj are getting absolutely raped and lumpenized
>>2866333>Let's broaden it even. Tell me who is the number one vanguard party anywhere in the developed world who is closest to successfully following Lenin's step by step plan to fruition?No one has an answer to this?
>>2866348You mistake mechanical materialism for dialectical materialism.
>>2866347If you want real conversations, have them in real life, the internet is for popping your spiritual pimples, throwing up all the bile in your system
>>2866351Show me a dialectic, you canโt because they donโt exist, the world is 1s and 0s, ons and offs.
>>2866352people can't interrupt you when you're text. you also get to think longer and backspace. also you can figure out how you want to word something on here before you say it IRL.
>>2866340>>2866342That is what I finally figured out a few months ago when I started falling in love with the girl from the theatre class, I had been wasting my life on a website that I foolishly believed was discussing some โworld-historicalโ shit that actually mattered, but was actually just a retarded hobby site for depressed people (ie. Incels that live in their parents basements) that have placed all of their hopes in an imaginary โrevolutionโ that will either never happen or require a fucking apocalypse that kills billions of innocent people to happen, lol. And unlike other honest hobby sites, this is not one you could talk to girls about because they would think it is really weird/cringe/embarrassing and laugh at you for being naive enough to believe in this crap, lol. Like I said Marxism is great tool to scientifically analyze history and fix third world countries, but you have to be fucking braindead to believe that Marxist revolution is more viable then social democracy in America and Western Europe.
>>2866352I would rather get my foot run over by a car than spend more than 5 minutes with another human being.
Far better, smarter, more capable and independent people tried your โrevolutionโ nonsense and wound up dead or in jail.
>>2866356Yet youโre here, in conversation with human beings
>>2866359Should specify irl.
>>2866354 >>2866356That is what I thought before I saw the cute girl from the theatre class, and once you see a cute girl you like you will grow out of the edge lord phase as well.
>>2866355Yeah I figured out too a couple times and then I get sucked back in probably out of boredom or depression. I for some reason naively think maybe it is possible to try to move conversations and discussing strategy into something productive, but it's hopeless. Yeah the only thing these people hot going on his waiting for the promised armageddon and preaching why doing anything means you have sinned and won't be raptured when the day of judgement comes.
>>2866360Iโm seeing on and off switches, not a corkscrew
>>2866363Im bi and i only view people as sex objects. If you need to be physically attracted to someone to spend time with themโฆthen you arenโt enjoying spending time with them.
>>2866315>theater girlShe is a closeted maoist
>>2866364It is quite funny how the so-called โmaterialistsโ here sound so much like idealist evangelical Christian doomsday preachers, lol.
>>2866366Attractiveness goes beyond the immediately physical you know that
>>2866368what are you attempting to achieve? what's your goal?
>>2866365>Iโm seeing on and off switches, not a corkscrew>>2866353>the world is 1s and 0s, ons and offs.metaphysical idealist, ever heard of unity of opposites? the fetus carried by the mother may in time metamorphose into a mother itself. dead organic matter gets incorporated into a new life, which dies again. The very act of turning an "on" into an "off" by "flipping" a "switch" implies dialectics
Letโs be real, they wouldnโt ever call a draft but if they did, youโd be right there landing on Iranian shores via duck boat. Especially if they threatened not just you but family, broke out the power tools, youโd go. Itโs always better them than you, even if you donโt blame them for firing.
>>2866355>That is what I finally figured out a few months ago when I started falling in love with the girl from the theatre class, I had been wasting my life on a website that I foolishly believed was discussing some โworld-historicalโ shit that actually matteredSo you finally touched grass? Good for you, you will be as well adjusted with better real takes like Sabo and Cpusanon. That comes from touching grass.
>>2866349(he had no response to this so he moved onto talking about girlfriends)
>>2866371If theyโre unified, theyโre not actually opposites
>>2866369If only humans were capable of having attractive personalities.
>>2866349>>2866374AI scams and gambling, next question
>>2866370The goal is to basically say Marxist are incels
>>2866376Thatโs deeply weird, of all the possible variations in personality you find none of them attractive at all?
>>2866349>labor aristos and petty booj are getting absolutely raped and lumpenizedno they're not lmao.
>>2866363That's not true at all. Sometimes that radicalizes people like the anarchist who shot McKinley to impress Goldberg
>>2866378I want the next generation to have a life worth living but these idiots want to talk about their crushes or something. They could literally just go to
>>>/siberia/ but they insist on ruining this thread with this bullshit because they know mods are asleep.
>>2866380Thereโs no amount of proletarianization let alone lumpenization that results in revolution, the bourgeois are fundamentally better at crisis management now than WWI when communism theoretically had a chance of emerging
The big businesses need the small businesses around to buy shit from them.
>>2866355>moid tastes pussy>entire worldview changesName a more common story
>>2866383No oneโs lives are worth living
>>2866379As I said, I would rather get my foot run over with a car than spend more than 5 minutes with someone. That is the level of pain I roughly consider equivalent to having to put up with societal norms and discuss boring everyday shit with boring everyday people. Maybe 1% of people can unbearably stand a conversation with. Best not to risk it.
>>2866383Why don't mods get…more mods? moderation is active in this website for like 45 minutes a day there have been times cp spammers keep their shit around for 12-18 hours easily and at times shitposters get to take over entire threads for days straight. It's just too grim.
>>2866385And lots of big business work under the franchise model.
>>2866386For me it was penis, they have a really similar taste as itโs just human skin and sweat at the end of the day
>>2866386He didn't even get to that part yet lol.
>>2866387>I am a naval gazing nihilist who thinks life is not worth living. Should I kill myself? No! I mvst post off topic about relationshit outside of >>>/siberia/fuck off
>>2866367I can tell you for a fact that she does not give a damn about larpy edgy politics shit, lol. She is no farther left then a social democrat and it wouldnโt shock me if she is a centrist or apolitical, who only pretends to be into left-liberal democrat stuff just to fit in with other young people. If I could get into a relationship with her, I would make sure her political activity stays limited to voting for Democrats, as I would not let her attend any protests or join any left-wing activist groups, in order to protect her from the fascist republicans that target anyone who takes part in IRL protests/activism.
>>2866393Suicide doesnโt solve the problem, Camus proved that much
>>2866381examples were given and you ignored them. if i show them to you again you will ignore them again. you are a time wasting vampire
>>2866395>life is not worth living, but suicide won't solve my problem. you know what will? spamming usapol about how revolution is impossible and i deserve a gffuck off
>>2866396>examples were given and you ignored them. I saw your example which is an issue that faces like a few dozen people lol. You should try basing your argument on statistics instead of this or that isolated anecdote.
>>2866396He's a symptom rather than a problem in itself though. When moderation is scarce and weak shitposters get to show up and rape threads nonstop.
>>2866397Nah suck my dick
>>2866394>>2866394>If I could get into a relationship with her, I would make sure her political activity stays limited to voting for Democrats, as I would not let her attend any protests or join any left-wing activist groups,You are sounding like a straight fed lmao. Also sounding unhinged and controlling here already. If she rejects you, you will end up crashing out and hopefully you don't go on an incel arc
>>2866399This isnโt an organizing space and if you think itโs either possible or desirable to do internet organizing like some color revolitionoid thatโs your own delusion
But this is how out of touch all of you guys are. You're still thinking in like the 19th century. Small business owners are largely irrelevant. Most of them don't make that much money at all.
>The average annual small business owner income in the U.S. generally ranges between $69,000 and $126,000, with a reported overall median of $67,000 to $77,000. However, owner pay varies drastically depending on staffing and industry.
>Solo owners without employees report a median income of just $24,000, while owners with staff see a median of $110,000. In the professional services sector (such as law or web development), earnings can push well over $100,000, whereas retail and floral designers often see averages closer to $41,000โ$53,000
You can make a lot more than a small business owner being a fucking techie or whatever other corporate bullshit employee.
>>2866403They still make up 46% of GDP
I recently found some cool IRL communists that love when I get drunk and start rambling with my analyses about conditions in our locale and beyond.
>>2866407Sick dude, good for you
>Really ask yourself if anyone with a stable job with a 401k and health insurance is going to risk everything and attempt to overthrow the government, thatโs your โproletariatโ
Now pretend there's a picture of the "They Live(1988)" main character putting his glasses on.
>be a doomer, abandon all hope, embrace nihilism, sit tight and enable capitalism forever.
>>2866409Revolutionary activity bolsters capitalism exactly as much as passivity does. The police and the security systems will adapt and prevail, if the Filipino state can win against the NPA when they still have a feudal hacienda system what makes you think you have a chance outside of pure hubris?
>>2866401I am not a โfedโ, lol. I just would never let my future girlfriend (she is not yet, and probably wonโt ever be, but this applies to any other girl I would have a relationship with as well) do anything that could put her in danger, as anyone who attends left-wing protests or joins left-wing activists groups under the Trump administration is putting themselves in serious danger of being killed or arrested, and I would never let a girl I love put herself in any situation where that is a possibility.
>>2866409You boycotting society has almost no effect. The chuds on 4/pol/ have the same idea. Maybe if you collectively reach the critical threshold.
>Revolutionary activity bolsters capitalism exactly as much as passivity does. The police and the security systems will adapt and prevail, if the Filipino state can win against the NPA when they still have a feudal hacienda system what makes you think you have a chance outside of pure hubris?
Now pretend there's a picture of the "They Live(1988)" main character putting his glasses on.
>You have no chance, do not resist, do not struggle. Accept defeat quietly. Give up.
>>2866413Youโll never be anything other than a neo weatherman
You would need the military and intelligence community on your side, the very people you hate for doing imperialism
>Youโll never be anything other than a neo weatherman
Now pretend there's a picture of the "They Live(1988)" main character putting his glasses on.
>My goal is being exposed and I'm angry.
>>2866408Inshallah all anons find this and more. Although it is kinda funny being the guy that's mostly done reading (some theory, mostly history and grappling with the what ifs and current possibilities) alone and stumbling into people that have been doing both the reading and organizing for a few years at this point.
I need the image where Stalin talkies about proletarianization of small business owners
>>2866416Explain how youโre better and smarter than everyone before you who tried what you supposedly want to try
>Explain how youโre better and smarter than everyone before you who tried what you supposedly want to try
Now pretend there's a picture of the "They Live(1988)" main character putting his glasses on.
>I will question your image and validity as a person in an anonymous imageboard because I've been found out and dont know what the fuck to do.
>>2866411>am not a โfedโ, lol. I just would never let my future girlfriend (she is not yet, and probably wonโt ever be, but this applies to any other girl I would have a relationship with as well) jfc lol you don't even have a gf, live in the basement and already you're possesive and controlling as fuck, unlovable
The only way anything changes is through military coup
Now letโs put a picture of me sucking dick and imaging I have the skills to make a man cum with my mouth
*omm nom gmmm SMACK
>>2866419>Stalin talkies about proletarianization of small business ownerssometimes you request some very obscure stuff.
did you try the booru?
>>2866423Not wanting your girlfriend to get killed or arrested/incarcerated by fascists at some stupid protest is not being โpossessiveโ or โcontrollingโ, it is genuinely caring for and protecting her because you love her and donโt want anything horrible to happen to her. Letting her put herself in danger to please your larpy edge lord politics means you donโt care about her, donโt love her, and are fine with her getting brutalized by fascists.
>>2866433Itโs good theyโre being honest I guess
>>2866430Thank you I'm shutting on small business owners on Reddit
>>2866433>>2866339The video and article was kind of dumb. Didn't even get into what the context of the quote is. Wasn't talking about killing /leftypol/ lusers just talking about killing the adversaries, like China, Cuba, Venezuela, or whatever. INB4 "But they want to kill us too!" No doubt but that's not what he was saying.
https://www.inc.com/sam-blum/palantir-co-founder-joe-lonsdale-save-western-civilization/91285385>In the aftermath of the U.S. military invasion of Venezuela and capture of the nationโs autocratic president, Nicolรกs Maduro, billionaire venture capitalist Joe Lonsdale went online. On X, Lonsdale amplified a post from an anonymous user. The post, written by an account with 18,000 followers, celebrated the U.S. military action to topple Maduro in violent terms, suggesting that โCommies โฆ should be blown up.โ
>Reposting the statement with his own commentary, Lonsdale, a co-founder of defense industry juggernaut Palantir Industries, added: โExactly. What did you think founding Palantir was supposed to be about?โ
>Criticism of Lonsdaleโs comments was swift, though mostly limited to online observers on X and Bluesky.
>In a statement to Inc., Lonsdale says: โI created Palantir and hired a huge number of my smartest friends to work together to save Western Civilization from our adversaries, especially communists and Islamists, while also reducing waste and fraud, and preserving civil liberties.โ >>2866436The last gamble of western imperialism is its advantage in military technology in power thats the only thing it has over the world
Hey Houdini or anyone, ever heard about this old communist that helped set up mutual aid/community defense infrastructure up in Seattle?
I just remembered him, he sadly passed away from cancer a few years ago.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1timNNC_QzCOlui4NRfpBw8RdoqfTRd7Z/view>>2866431Women are human beings with their own agency. If she chooses to risk danger because she thinks that the country is heading in a dark direction, she can do so.
>>2866433This is why I would never let my future girlfriend post far-left political views (Marxism and anarchism) on her social media accounts, as I would make sure that she dose not post about anything that is not apolitical or just telling people to vote Democrat. Honestly, I am not worried about the cute girl from the theatre class doing this because I know that she is just a normie Democrat and has zero interest in Marxism or anarchism. Just to make sure that my future girlfriend dose not find out about far-left politics that could put her in danger, I would keep my Marxist books hidden away somewhere she could not find them, because I donโt trust that she would be able to read them without getting the itch to attend a dangerous protest or join a far-left group that would put her in danger of being brutalized by fascists.
>>2866445I agree that women are human beings with agency, and if other women want to put themselves in danger over their political views they can do that. But under no circumstances will I ever allow my future girlfriend to put herself in danger over larpy political crap (ie. dangerous protests and risky activism) that is just going to accomplish nothing and give the fascists the opportunity to brutalize her. Doing anything else means that I would not be caring for her, protecting her, or loving her, and would make me complicit in anything horrible that could happen to her.
>>2866431>Letting her put herself in danger to please your larpy edge lord politics means you donโt care about her, donโt love her, and are fine with her getting brutalized by fascists.My poow wittwe (imaginary) bbygrrrl iz too weak to fight ve pawcists and she is too dumbdumb to have politicfeels , you just don't understand (imaginary) love
>>2866449Actual non-larp political action is certain danger while protesters get comparatively light punishment, mostly to prove a point and scare them. So is being a revolutionary's partner. You are just not politically active, "leftism" is your hobby. You can't even bring yourself to larp. A liberal mom at a no kings protest is more of a human being with pride than you.
>>2866453imageboard users and sometimes redditors
>>2866449>But under no circumstances will I ever allow my future girlfriend to put herself in danger over larpy political crapI mean, it's pretty obvious you will never have a meaningful relationship anyway tbh
>>2866458
>Anarchists would be infinitely benefited from reading about the basics of guerilla war if they want to play these types of games.
one of the issues is that a lot of anarchists are mostly confused liberals who want to be anarchist because it seems sexy, they think they can work with the system and within the system to push for change, oblivious to the lengths the status quo will go to protect it's position. Being an know anarchist is being a primary target in every country in the world.
>>2866462a whole lot of "anarchists" do not read any theory
these are usually not the principled types but the punk types, they might read a zine every now and then but they are absolutely not politically educated even on their own theory, these are the people with the red A patch who don't even know who Emma Goldman is
imo part of the reason for this is an intentional recuperation effort by the capitalist superstructure to depoliticize the concept into just a vibe of "do what you want". Bookchin literally gets into this type of anarchist btw.
there's a real direct line between "I'm a punk so I'm anarchist" and "You don't need to be political to be punk"
these are also typically the people whom have the least understanding of class position, which contributes to their individualist mindset that ultimately allows them to ignore the hierarchies they claim to be against, because they don't see or refuse to see the class positions that define significant amounts of the hierarchy within our society.
in this way, these "anarchists" are perfectly aligned with liberalism which also seeks to obscure the class position in favorite of individual choices.
It's why so many of them end up circling back to "support small businesses" """free market""" liberalism, because they don't understand the economic positions of the players within the game, instead opting for a vibe based "morality". Is there really a more authoritarian hierarchy than a small business? Where one individual has final say over all aspects of things, regardless of what the community might feel (community, really being passive consumers or those who benefit the profit incentive)? The vibes based anarchist, not understanding the class realities of the capitalist super structure, becomes blind to these contradictions between community and authority, because they are basing their judgement on "vibes" based morality markers, the same markers that become marketing for the business. Economically, structurally, the small business that has the safe space sticker on the door is not a co-op, not worker owned, they still pay wages, the owner is still in a class position that MUST put profit above all else, lest they "lose the game" of capitalism. In this way, structurally, there is no difference between this moralized "individual" business and the hierarchy it exists in any other business. The super structural position always gives way to the hierarchy.
Hierarchies can exist without class position creating them, but class position always creates hierarchies, therefore the anarchist benefits from understanding a marxist analysis of class relations.
>>2866454Do edgy far-left larper guys get off on seeing their girlfriends getting brutalized by fascists at larp protests? Because, if you are okay with your girlfriend putting herself in danger to prove an edgy political point you donโt really love her and should stay single so you donโt put some innocent girl in danger over your cringe larpy bullshit.
>>2866460I will do everything I can to make myself appealing and independent enough to have a girlfriend. Sadly, it probably wonโt be the cute girl from the theatre class, though their is still a small chance it might be her.
Oh my god shutup about this dude's hypothetical girlfriend.
>>2866469
True, but Stalin was married and had kids. Lenin was married without kids. Marx was married and had way too many kids. You can make it work but it's rare. (NTA)
Bro is reading Marx really necessary this dude writes in the most unreadable way ever ugh. I'll just read marx for beginners and cafiero's capital again.
>>2866476>most unreadable way everfiltered
>>2866478That's correct he filters me badly. Even stuff that people tell me is supposed to be easy like theses on fauberbach. Is there a "Marx for retards" book or anything?
>>2866474Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. were living in third world countries fighting tinpot armies with zero modern high-tech 21st century ISR capabilities, so they were not putting their wives/girlfriends in the same kind of danger that modern edgy far-left larper dudes are putting their girlfriends in when they let them attend dangerous larp protests in America and Western Europe, lol.
>>2866480The problem is that you're talking about giving your girlfriend permission to do something as if she were your property. Fuck that.
>>2866481You will never convince me to let my future girlfriend put herself in danger to prove some edgy Marxist political point.
>>2866486You can't talk about giving your girlfriend permission to do or not do something what is this 18th century shit?
>>2866476show me what you're struggling with
>>2866480omfg i was talking to houdini not you. how convenient he has deleted his post
>>2866480>>2866481>>2866486>>2866487BEGONE
>>>/siberia/801085 >>2866487Why do you believe that it is okay to encourage innocent girls to get brutalized by fascists at dangerous larp protests to prove edgy Marxist political points and please their edgy far-left larper dude boyfriends who get off on their girlfriends getting brutalized by fascists, and accuse anyone who criticizes this abomination as being stuck in the โ18th centuryโ, lol.
Guys, I just want to stop all this Israel bullshit and all the other wars and regime change ops and shit. That's the only thing I feel slightly hopeful about is America perhaps eventually toning this shit down a bit. Definitely not going to see some collapse and ensuing communist revolution in my lifetime.
>>2866488>The main defect of all hitherto-existing materialism โ that of Feuerbach included โ is that the Object [der Gegenstand], actuality, sensuousness, are conceived only in the form of the object [Objekts], or of contemplation [Anschauung], but not as human sensuous activity, practice [Praxis], not subjectively. Hence it happened that the active side, in opposition to materialism, was developed by idealism โ but only abstractly, since, of course, idealism does not know real, sensuous activity as such. Feuerbach wants sensuous objects [Objekte], differentiated from thought-objects, but he does not conceive human activity itself as objective [gegenstรคndliche] activity. In The Essence of Christianity [Das Wesen des Christenthums], he therefore regards the theoretical attitude as the only genuinely human attitude, while practice [Praxis] is conceived and defined only in its dirty-Jewish form of appearance [Erscheinungsform][1]. Hence he does not grasp the significance of โrevolutionaryโ, of โpractical-criticalโ, activity.I feel like the meathead character in a movie that exists only to say "In english doc!" when the scientist character says some complicated sounding shit I dont get anything.
>>2866490I don't believe any of that, I wouldn't be happy with my bf going to one of those but I wouldnt try to bend his will to mine like a petty little tyrant speaking in terms of giving or not giving permission because he's his own human being and not my property.
>>2866497i've said this before but I really like how these are laid out, very zine
>>2866492People used to think that the world is just something you look at and think about, like watching a movie. Even Feuerbach, who believed the real, physical world matters, mostly thought of people as watchers instead of doers.
Marx says that's the mistake. People change the world instead of just watching it. People build things, work together, solve problems, and remake the world through what they do.
Some philosophers (the idealists) did talk about people being active, but they thought activity was mostly about ideas or the mind, not about real life and real work.
Feuerbach understood that the world is real, but he still didn't see that human action is also part of that reality. He thought thinking was the most important human activity and didn't appreciate practical work or changing society.
Marx's point is simple: if you want to understand people, you can't just look at what they think or what they see. You have to look at what they do. Real change comes from people acting in the world, not just thinking about it.
Feuerbach wrote a book called The Essence of Christianity. In it, he argued that religion is really a projection of human qualities onto God. (Instead of God making man in his image, Man made God in his image) Marx admired this critique but thought Feuerbach stopped halfway.
Marx's point is Feuerbach thinks Thinking is noble, while practical activity is just the grubby, everyday stuff he associates with Judaism.
>>2866492>The main defect of all hitherto-existing materialism โ that of Feuerbach included โ is that the Object [der Gegenstand], actuality, sensuousness, are conceived only in the form of the object [Objekts], or of contemplation [Anschauung], but not as human sensuous activity, practice [Praxis], not subjectively.The main problem of pre-Marxian materialism is that Objects (things you interact with) are understood as Object-in-themselves or as Objects-via-senses instead of Objects-as-activities/praxis.
>Hence it happened that the active side, in opposition to materialism, was developed by idealism โ but only abstractly, since, of course, idealism does not know real, sensuous activity as such. And so this theoretical understanding of activity was studied but not the activity itself.
>Feuerbach wants sensuous objects [Objekte], differentiated from thought-objects, but he does not conceive human activity itself as objective [gegenstรคndliche] activity.For philosophers, Objects are and you have Thoughts on them, there is no practical connection between Man and Object and Marx counterpoints "but also practical activity
is objective"
>In The Essence of Christianity [Das Wesen des Christenthums], he therefore regards the theoretical attitude as the only genuinely human attitude, while practice [Praxis] is conceived and defined only in its dirty-Jewish form of appearance [Erscheinungsform][1]. So the philosophers study the perfect theoretical understanding of Praxis instead of looking down on the Earth to see what actual practice is going on (the difference between the pure Christian heaven and dirty Jewish this-worldliness in which the Christianity from the Heavens is presented down here)
>Hence he does not grasp the significance of โrevolutionaryโ, of โpractical-criticalโ, activity.So the philosopher is stuck navel-gazing.
>>2866494Call me crazy but I just cannot fathom allowing someone you love to put themselves in danger under any circumstances, especially when the current government is openly advertising how much they want to brutalize anyone who stands up to them. I feel that allowing your girlfriend to put herself in danger means that you are responsible for anything bad that happens to her, and I could not live with that so I would never allow her to put herself in those circumstances.
>>2866501I don't claim property over my compatriots and if the theoretical girlfriend wants to struggle so be it, who am I stop her and dictate her life.
>>2866499>>2866500This actually solved all my doubts lol. Wish you guys could just translate the entire work of Marx to unga like you did now but its impossible so I'll keep trying to wrestle thru this shit. Thanks!
>>2866465> if you are okay with your girlfriend putting herself in danger to prove an edgy political point you donโt really love herEdgy to you is just going outside. You are also assuming she is this apolitical princess who doesn't have any thoughts. Already red flags with you
>>2866503I canโt let my future girlfriend do anything that would put herself in danger, so I will have to make sure that she stays focused on apolitical pursuits and keeps her political views within the acceptable/realistic bounds of reformist/electoralist social democracy (the only political activity she would engage in is voting for democrats), and prevent her from finding out about โrevolutionaryโ far-left Marxist/anarchist politics that could put her in danger. The good news is that the cute girl from the theatre class seems very apolitical and dose not strike me as the type to engage in risky political activity, but if I develop a serious friendship with her that evolves into a relationship (this is highly unlikely, but I am still going to try and holding out hope that it could work), I will make sure that I am on alert for her getting lured into engaging in risky political activity (dangerous larp protests and risky larp activism), especially considering that the next two years (the lead up to the 2028 election) have a very serious chance of a total fascist takeover. Once I would be living with her (or any other girl), I would make sure that she stays completely safe from any dangerous corrupting influences that could get her in trouble, because of my extreme desire to care for, protect, and love her.
>>2866464Ok
>>2866465I am in a very long, healthy relationship with a beautiful women and why I do not get off on her being beaten, I get off ln her making choices such as "I am going to this protest" all by herself because she is an adult and if she wants to put herself in danger for something she believes in then I can do nothing but support her.
>will do everything I can to make myself appealing and independent enough to have a girlfriend.Again, you are making it really obvious that will never ever happen, why would anyone want to be with you if right of the bat you're trying to think for them and control their actions. It's disgusting. Please think long and hard about how you view other people and their choices, you can change this, even as an autist. This is genuine advise, don't be an incel.
>>2866513The way you are talking you are tempting fate and jinxing your self
Now she will rosa luxembourg times lenin of our time
And it will because you put that energy in the world
>>2866492Where is this from?
DSA status? Are they still libs?
>>2866530They're a big tent
>>2866530the maoists and the anarchists are teaming up
Why are there even "maoists" and MLs in the US? You want to make socialism in one country and "socialist" commodity production in the imperial core? Whats the point of that? Just be a FDR lib and stop the larp lol
>>2866514>>2866516>>2866517>>2866518Because I am a real Marxist (I plan on becoming a Marxist historian when I teach history at a community college after getting my masters degree), I have decided that I will allow my future girlfriend to read Marxist books. However, she will only be allowed to read Marxist books as long as she correctly interprets Marxism as purely a universal scientific theory of history (ie. modes of production, base-superstructure model, etc.) and an ideology (Marxism-Leninism) that is only applicable to the material conditions of third world periphery countries where Marxist-Leninist revolutions are viable as seen by the USSR, PRC, DPRK, socialist Cuba, etc. In the imperial core (America and Western Europe) Marxism-Leninism is not viable in the material conditions due to the existence of high-tech 21st century ISR military/intelligence/law enforcement capabilities, and reformist/electoralist social democracy (ie. UBI, single-payer healthcare, free college, etc.) is the only viable praxis in non-apocalyptic scenarios (anything short of nuclear war, extreme climate change, etc.). I will still make sure that my future girlfriend dose not attend any dangerous larp protests and risky larp activism that would put her in danger of being brutalized by fascists, because I care for, protect, and love her, and because real Marxists understand that dangerous larp protests and risky larp activism are not effective praxis anywhere, as in the imperial core the affective praxis is reformist/electoralist social democracy and in the periphery the effective praxis is Marxist-Leninist revolution.
(Stay away from women) >>2866533they're busy running for office
>>2866539>xe's a first world internet MLThat explains the mental illness and weird controlling attitude towards a hypothetical woman
>>2866549I am a first-world internet leftist and i am controlling toward women
Can't believe you uyghas spent all night talking about some dude's admittedly imaginary girlfriend. I tried to change the topic a few times but nothing capitivates leftypoly like gf bf tombommy femdommy mommy twink trapwaifu whatever fucking crap. Are all of you people like fucking preteens or something?
>>2866551i'd believe the guy talking about his theater gf was, seemed pretty immature
My (29, ML) girlfriend (jailbait, apolitical) is real and she is mature for her age and she loves me very much so.
>>2866552That's not even his girlfriend, that's just his crush, then he spawned like a 10 hour discussion about what he would do with his hypothetical gf when he gets one when the hypothetical revolution comes. Been going on since last thread.
Beria bf + underaged DSA gf = leftypol's hottest couple
>>2866559Oh brother, another right wing deviationist freak here to tell us how communism is actually centrist despite all evidence
>>2866301>waiting around for the โrevolutionโ that will either never happen or require a fucking apocalypse that kills billions of innocent people to happenWhoโs gonna tell them?
>>2866539Another phenomenal L for MLs, not beating the incel allegations
>real marxists understand you have to shut the fuck up and assimilate even if it is the death of us all. >>2866567No one is watching your video until you explain it.
>>2866574You didn't watch the video yet still make judgements upon it.
You're an idiot. There's nothing more to explain.
>>2866577I want to watch your video even less now
>>2866559>moppinnobody cares
>>2866529Why were the argentinian natbourgs dumb enough to let this happen?
Tbh i thought it was all a ploy to do austerity, then show line go up while people starve, and then say "see, libertarianism works"
But they can't even make line go up?
>>2866584The bourgeoisie are dumb
>>2866584argentinian policy is set in washington as they're an oppressed nation
>>2866584>natbourgAnon, if even germany kills it's industry on the orders of the Great Satan, what makes you think Argentinians have a say in anything
>>2866584>>2866585The bourgeoisie biggest enemy is not the prole, i'ts the small business owners who vote lolbertarians to collapse the economy lel.
>>2866559>>2866567Transcript because I aint clicking that
>Something is happening right now, and it's happening in every political movement. This is happening among libertarians, this is happening on the right, this is happening on the left, is that the people with the same ideology are on opposite sides of issues. >> Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show, everybody. Krystal Ball is here with Caleb Maupin. So, Caleb, your new book is a series of writings and lectures of yours called Imperialism and anti-imperialism. And I think in particular the Jimmy Dore Show audience
>would be interested to learn about this because um this is a very viewpoint diverse audience on this show. We have kind of a viewpoint diverse audience on our show as well. Um but I think this really speaks to some of the big issues that sort of transcend uh so-called divisions between uh left and right as they're currently described uh today. So, I'll just read a few paragraphs from the introduction, which you did not write. This was written by a guy named Noah Shank, right? Wrote the introduction to your
>your book here. So, Caleb became the spokesperson for former US Attorney General Ramsey Clark during the Occupy Wall Street occupation of Lower Manhattan from September to November of 2011. It was during this time that Caleb began to see the weaknesses of the radical left. When the Obama administration orchestrated the Arab Spring and subsequently participated in the NATO military deposition of the African leader Muammar Gaddafi, he became increasingly frustrated with the reaction of many leftists. Because the
>Arab Spring was framed as a glorious revolution from below and because Obama was doing it, many on the left refused to criticize it. Many more went so far as to support it. Workers World Party pandering to the crowd of liberals wrote articles that opposed the intervention but framed Gaddafi as a bourgeois nationalist. Caleb was furious as the party did almost nothing to oppose the destruction of Libya and instead focused on tailing after trendy liberal causes. While the left abandoned Gaddafi, figures like Alex Jones had Cynthia
>McKinney on his show to support the Libyan people, and libertarians pointed to Gaddafi's plan for an alternative African bank. This moment stuck with him for years. Friend of mine, his name is Anish Shivani, who's great writer. Um one of his critiques of the Bernie Sanders movement, as much as he was a supporter of it, he said it does not address the question of empire. Even though you had this left-wing movement in the United States, there is an unwillingness to address the problem of empire, not only as a moral
>problem, but as a sort of root cause preventing the kind of social democratic reforms that the Bernie movement was advocating. And so in the introduction to this book, it mentions Occupy Wall Street, which in many senses was sort of the precursor or the prologue to the Bernie campaign. And you mentioned that from that point through the destruction of Libya, you became very disillusioned with what the book here refers to as the uh {quote} {unquote} radical left. And so this book here, Imperialism versus
>Anti-Imperialism, kind of suggests what I think is a major theme of the Jimmy Dore Show and shows like it uh that really emphasize uh not that there's no difference between the left and the right, but that those differences are sort of subservient to the more transcendent differences between imperialism and anti-imperialism. What is often framed as establishment versus anti-establishment. And nowadays, especially since October 7th and the Israeli genocide in Gaza, um left versus right is really not a very
>good predictor anymore of imperialist versus anti-imperialist. Um not as much as you would think. And so, I know that's a lot there, but you got a 500 page book about it. So, you could take that wherever you'd like. Do you see I'll try to narrow it down the question a bit more. Um do you see a broad coalition forming in the United States or around the world for that matter that sort of transcends these old sort of formal political boundaries left-right into something a little bit more transcendent than that.
>Well, you know, that introduction is referring to, you know, the destruction of Libya. I was in the Occupy Wall Street Park in Lower Manhattan when the news came that Gaddafi was killed. And there was a big divide in the park between who thought that was great news and who thought that was a travesty. And it was a class divide. It, you know, the people that supported it were the people that were very well dressed. I used to call them beautiful occupiers. Right? These people that were being paid by some big foundation to run
>the protest and they came there every day in their their nice clothes and told us where to stand and where to go and coordinated with MSNBC to tell them where to put the cameras. And they all thought it was great. And they were all tied in with, you know, and a lot of them had been in other countries staging protest movements in Syria and other places and openly bragged about this. A lot of the the people that were involved in destroying the former Yugoslavia, Otpor and such, you know, were were kind
>of running things. This is the George Soros revolution incorporated apparatus that that largely runs American leftism in a lot of ways. But then there were a lot of people like me. I'm from the Midwest. I'm from a small town in Ohio. A lot of people like me who had come to New York City on a Greyhound bus because they wanted to be part of a movement who saw Gaddafi as somebody who was fighting the system, as someone who was building an independent African bank, as somebody who who you know, who had raised his
>people up and was opposing uh status quo. And a lot of them were libertarian in their perspective or into what you might call conspiracy theories or whatnot, but they got it. They were on Gaddafi's side, uh whereas the establishment left uh was on the side of imperialism. And and that really stuck with me. But what you're referring to in this this you know, when you talk about Jimmy Dore and our willingness to work with people on the right to oppose wars and kind of a populist anti-establishment movement movement,
>something is happening right now, and it's happening in every political movement. This is happening among libertarians, this is happening on the right, this is happening on the left, is that that people with the same ideology are on opposite sides of issues. There are There were people on the left who supported Julian Assange, and there were people on the left who didn't. There were libertarians who supported Julian Assange, there were libertarians who didn't. There were right-wingers who
>supported Julian Assange, and there were right-wingers who didn't. >> Right. >> And whether it's the war in Iran, the war in Ukraine, uh you know, the attacks on our civil liberties, I mean, you you can every movement is being divided, and they're using the same ideology, but they're on opposite sides. This is very similar to what happened in the lead-up to the Second World War. And that's a little bit eerie for you know, we should that's that should raise some alarm
>bells. But in the lead-up to the Second World War, you know, if you were a a leftist and you liked President Roosevelt and you liked Stalin and the labor movement and you wanted to build socialism, you could join the Communist Party. Uh and if you were a leftist and you wanted to build the labor movement and you were inspired by the Russian Revolution, but you hated Roosevelt and thought he was a sellout and you hated Stalin and you thought the Soviet Union was bad, you could join this other Communist movement called Trotskyism.tl;dr:
<Muh imperialism<Muh Soros<Muh libs<Muh shitBRICS<Muh west Fallen<Muh multipolarity<We're on the cusp of the eschaton!<Absolutely nothing about rent, wages, exploitation, unions, class struggleLmfao
>>286658821st century united front is gonna be communists and monopoly capital vs social democrats, fascists, anarchists and libertarians
>>2866591>communists and monopoly capitalThat's China funnily.
>>2866590>Welcome to the Jimmy Dore Show, everybody. Krystal Ball is here with Caleb Maupin.Where did you get this transcript? I just scrolled over the video and it doesn't look like Kyrstal Ball is in it.
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>>2866590Anyways, I don't see how the fuck OWS and Libya are connected in any way. I kinda agree with the point in general. I think he's kinda right that we should have a broad coalition of "anti-imperialists" or "anti-interventionists" and I would be willing to "critically support" anyone who is pushing that message. I think it's dumb on his part to focus on the fake anti-war leftists and not acknowledge the fake anti-war rightists. I think it's an identical problem on both sides where there are all these people who are "anti-war" rightists when the Dems are in office, and then it reverses when a Republican is in office. Just look at fucking Trump's campaigns and how he's the peace candidate and all that bullshit. There are very few on the right or left who stick to their convictions universally.
>>2866584>natbourgslol, milei isn't a natbourg.
he literally shut down national production over international commerce, tore down many national PYMES (small and medium businesses), made legal capital flight (that's why the national account of capital flight is low, lmao) and doesn't even have a national industry that could compete with international markets to brag about it anymore.
he's a shock therapy neolib. he's doing to Argentina what Yeltsin did to Russia.
>>2866599Kek so glad the state dept is dying. Know a chud who kept getting passed over to work for them after taking the exam, probably because he has $20,000 debt from his cocaine addiction. Then once Trump took office and Rubia and DOGE purged the state dept ranks early in the administration , guess who got a position working in China.
>>2866603Pinocchio looking ass
>>2866613You, too, are a predditor, so you should know how to find the archives
>>2866603Materialist reason why a podcast guy is treated like jesus in the u.s
>>2866603I give it some months before it gets heavily vandalized. and I hope it gets beheaded.
unless it's on private property, but then it losses the purpose of propagandize your average burger.
>>2866539>However, she will only be allowed to read Marxist books as long as she correctly interprets Marxism as purely a universal scientific theory of historywow, you're fucking rancid, you misogynist piece of shit.
You canโt even agree on what a proletarian is but you think you can overthrow a nuclear armed state with your friends with small arms
>>2866495the imputed rent part towards the middle is wild.
>>2866633That's because the revolutionary moment hasn't happened yet. When it happens the state will crumble and then the proletariat will be looking for leaders like us who have actually done the reading to show them the path of true historical materialist dialectics. It will be a true vindication of all these years reading Lenin alone in my room with no friends.
>>2866629median wealth per adult not necessarily reflects your ability to thrive. Purchase Parity Power is better, per capita much more detailed even.
similar to gdp numbers, those median income numbers are like pee-pee
big contests. but what's a pee-pee big if it can't get erect?
>>2866642Median wealth and purchasing power parity adjusted numbers aren't mutually exclusice categories. What the fuck are you talking about. You can have median wealth ppp adjusted or nominal.
>>2866642>>2866645But I agree, well don't know if that is what you are saying, I woukd rather see median wealth per capita instead of per adult because people gpt to share that wealth and income with their dependants so ot doesn't make sense to leave it out of the equation.
>>2866645>aren't mutually exclusice categorieswho said they were?
>What the fuck are you talking aboutre-read the post until you comprehend what I tried to answer.
>You can have median wealth ppp adjusted or nominal.but that's not what we got here:
>>2866629 nor did I expressed we can't have that.
>>2866629How the hell is Canada so high?
>>2866642>median wealth per adult not necessarily reflects your ability to thrive. Purchase Parity Power is better, That is what you said: PPP is better. You didn't make it clear if you were saying PPP adjusted median wealth or not.
>>2866642>those median income numbers are like pee-pee big contests. but what's a pee-pee big if it can't get erect?Then you started talking about median income and making some reddit jokes.
>>2866642>median wealth per adult not necessarily reflects your ability to thrive. Purchase Parity Power is better, That is what you said: PPP is better. You didn't make it clear if you were saying PPP adjusted median wealth or not.
>>2866642>those median income numbers are like pee-pee big contests. but what's a pee-pee big if it can't get erect?Then you started talking about median income and making some reddit jokes.
Anyways, wealth is better than income because it gives you a picture of how much people are really managing to save after exspenses instead of just straight PPP adjusted income because you have to truly trust how they compare the basket of goods and etc. And assume they are really comparing everything fairly just like the fake inflation numbers. Like take for example transportation exspenses. You could PPP the cost of driving a personal vehicle in the US vs. England, but in one place, the car is a luxury in the other it is an absolute neccesity.
>>2866654imperialists with small populations will always be at the top. three quarters of the worlds mining companies are canadian
>>2866633>but you think you can overthrow a nuclear armed state with your friends with small armsno one here thinks or even wants that
>>2866618>Materialist reason why a podcast guy is treated like jesus in the u.sbecause chuds wanted their own MLK and were jealous
>>2866539i want to believe this is a bit but imageboards attract the unironic version of this
>>2866661>median wealth or not.whatever metric, chum. mediam alone is useless. Purchase Parity Power always makes the old metrics closer to what you have, wherever you apply them.
>you have to truly trust how they compare the basket of goods and etcthat's standard. obscure metrics with economists designing new models are rarely, if ever, published; unless accepted as universally closer to the actual state of an economic metric.
the only way that can change the PPP is the sample size of the goods, and even so, national banks and widely-accepted international institutions are not shy in picking a lot of goods. and you work with tolerances with acceptable tolerances within the normal cuve anyway.
PPP will always defeat any other general metric almost by default.
>Then you started talking about median income and making some reddit jokes.picrel
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https://houdinimagazine.com/submissions>>2866672>purchasing power paritythe US's advantage in PPP is its currency hegemony, which is dying. This advantage helps make imports cheap but not retail prices. The bourgeoisie benefits from this more than everyone else. And it doesn't help at all with rent, which is what is eating people alive.
>>2866654>>2866662remember, in the imperial core, the blues on the bottom map would not benefit from global wealth redistribution, but the greens would slightly. the US is green and canada is blue
>grrrrrrr communism is not when wealth redistributionI know but it is interesting to notice.
>>2866677If you think about it, what matters more than the blue vs non-blue on the bottom map, is whether your multiplier is bigger in the top map. If your multiplier is bigger in the top map, you would still benefit more from national redistribution than global redistribution, and I think this is a fair approximate metric for whether a "country" (not a class, just the country as a whole) "benefits" from imperialism (in the short term, since imperialism destroys everything in the long run if it is not stopped). Of course this map is only granular down to the nation. Nations have internal colonies and I would love to see how this map would shake out if broken down to the provincial level.
Also I have no idea if the data or methods used to make the map were accurate.
But it is remarkable to see countries on the bottom map which would benefit over 300x from global wealth redistribution but only benefit 2 or 3x from national redistribution because they are so poor.
>>2866676Average American expenditure on transportation:
>The true average cost of owning and operating a car in the U.S. is $1,025 per month ($12,297 annually). This total includes much more than just a car payment; it accounts for insurance, gas, depreciation, maintenance, and fees<$12,297 annually
>Across the U.S., the average rent for an apartment is approximately $2,015 per month. Monthly utility expensesโincluding electricity, gas, water, trash, and internetโtypically add another $200 to $300 for an apartment, or $330 to $520 if you are renting a larger home<$27,600 annually
>Employer-Sponsored Plan: You pay an average of $114 to $120 per month ($1,440 per year) out of your paycheck. Your employer pays the rest of the total $9,325 annual cost<$1,440 annually
>A single adult in the US typically spends between $250 and $479 per month on groceries, depending on their diet and caloric needs. The USDA Cost of Food Reports break this down: an adult on a strict "thrifty" plan spends around $250 to $313, while a moderate plan costs about $390 to $465 per month<$3,600 annuallySo according to these numbers, for a single adult, just covering the basics and you're coming out to: $44,937 annually on average.
<For the year 2024, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that the median annual earnings for all workers (people aged 15 and over with earnings) was $51,370 >>2866674Buy an ad, fatass
>>2866504while it's nice to understand all the german hegelbabble but mostly what you need to understand from Marx is exploitation, surplus value, class rule, class struggle.
>>2866693post gen v uu showdown elo
>>2866689Isn't being tall and fat more damning? No wonder you have to always beg for food money here.
>>2866697cash app me so I can buy some fruit
$jodiewodie
>>2866701<overweightbuy less food
>>2866603Is this for the charlie Kirk memorial fountain?
>>2866701Didn't you post a picture here once? When did you get so fat?
>>2866603Times Square? Lmao
>>2866757Venezuela is Puerto Rico 2, but with Oil. However, they aren't going to be burger citizens.
>>2866764What happened in mineapolis scared them
How many years left till American 1905
>>2866775The Romanovs fell after 264 years… USA had its 250 birthday…
>>2866775Given this
>>2866770 I'd say a few months
>>2866775We are losing to Iran so give it a few months max at this rate
>>2866770How long until the government starts murdering us
>>2866781I mean it's kinda already been doing that? The several high profile ICE executions this year alone, and that's just the ones that are public and get enough outrage that we know about them
Are Americans about to be Jakarta'd?
>>2866765tbf, the US already annexed large portions of Mexico already.
>>2866785He said he's going to do a new Russiagate but saying it was Biden who benefited. So which countries are they going to say? Venezuela again?
>>2866775Thatโs what BLM riots and OWS were, still no bolshevik organization ti be found
>>2866789My guess is Venezuela but then cop out of doing anything about it by saying that since they got Maduro who they'll say masterminded the whole thing it's all settled, probably with Trump repeatedly asserting that Maduro told him to his face that he rigged the election and he couldn't believe how stupid fake news CNN went along with his evil schemes
>>2866789well, tbf, thanks to the 'free market' excuse, different US regime presidencies have opened (gradually at different times and paces) the gates of foreign influence over the electoral system through lobbies. local diaspora lobbies or FARA lobbies, in both cases they have subverted, altered, and damaged the US politics in so many ways Americans can't even start to comprehend their impact.
for instance, why did the US embargo and sanctions on Cuba worked so well? because fucking Cuban-American gusanos formed the Cuban American National Foundation (CANF) lobby. and because they knew very well how the Cuban government worked before and after the revolution (some members were traitors to Fidel and la revoluciรณn), they helped to design these sanctions tools to hurt a lot the Cuban people.
but also, they pushed for particular individuals throughout decades to hold key positions in government offices, paid for ads, campaigns, etc.
countless of stories one could bring in about meddling elections.
but trumpedo surely will not care about any of this and will selectively manipulate the truth to further the rethuglican interests.
>>2866804
holly shit /pol/ stfu.
>>2866785goddammit I live in Georgia and I'm probably gonna have to vote Dem down ballet if Trump carries through with this retardation and I really didn't want to
>>2866785I can't wait to hear about the new ballroom additions and interior design details!!
>>2866775The last thing American leftists should want is a failed 1905 larp revolution that strengthens the fascists (it would be used to justify transforming the US into a full-blown fascist state) and leads to the working class being being completely brutalized (elections permanently suspended, the social safety net completely eliminated, womenโs rights, civil rights, and LGBT rights rolled back a century, every leftist killed or rounded up, etc.). Unlike in the third world periphery Russian empire, a successful 1917 Marxist-Leninist revolution will not happen in America short of apocalyptic conditions (ie. nuclear war, extreme climate change, etc.), because it is an imperial core country with modern high-tech ISR military/intelligence/law enforcement capability. However, I am starting to wonder if many American leftists have a serious masochistic streak considering how happy they seem to let their girlfriends get brutalized by fascists at dangerous larp protests. If you want to protect your girlfriend from putting herself in danger you get called a evil โmisogynistโ, while if you let your girlfriend go to a dangerous larp protest and get brutalized (killed, injured, and/or arrested/incarcerated) by fascists, you get called a โprogressiveโ hero. This logic reeks of extreme masochism, a martyrdom/victim fetish, and possibly even cuckoldry. Real Marxists have an objective dialectical materialist analysis of how society actually works and what praxis is appropriate for the material conditions of each country, with reformist/electoralist social democracy (voting for democrats that support UBI, single-payer healthcare, free college, etc.) appropriate for the imperial core and Marxist-Leninist revolution appropriate for the periphery, while dangerous larp protests are appropriate nowhere.
>>2866843I have never used โAIโ chatbot crap in my entire life, yet you accuse me of being a chatbot to deflect from the fact that you cannot disprove my argument, lol.
>>2866787Thats cause santa anna was a bitch uygha who should have let the texans execute him like a man
>>2866850I am not a fucking chatbot, you are just deflecting from the fact that I called out many American leftists for having a masochistic martyrdom/victim hood cuck fetish, that makes them want to put their girlfriends in danger of being brutalized by fascists at dangerous larp protests. I feel really bad for their girlfriends, as someone needs to protect them and keep them out of harms way by stopping them from being lured to attend dangerous larp protests where they could get brutalized by fascists.
>>2866853The only people being โbrutalizedโ would be radlib fascists in the DNSA so how is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>I'm not a chatbot
And yet you type like one
>>2866858Not really. I think a lot of you just don't know English.
>>2866853>I am not a fucking chatbottry being more convincing then
>>2866857I donโt want to see any innocent young women lured to dangerous larp protests where they could be brutalized by fascists in order to please American leftists masochistic martyrdom/victim hood cuck fetish. It breaks my heart to think about how common this sick phenomenon is on the American left, which is probably secretly coordinated with the fascists who want to brutalize innocent young women. This is why I would never let my future girlfriend attend dangerous larp protests and I would tell any young women I know to avoid dangerous larp protest and run far away from men that encourage them to engage in risky political activity that could get them brutalized by fascists.
>Trump said to urge Netanyahu to withdraw IDF troops from Syria, Lebanon in recent call
>According to the report, Trump warned that Israelโs military presence in Syrian territory is creating tensions that could lead to an escalation, telling Netanyahu, โThey donโt want you there. You should redeploy.โ He reportedly made a similar request regarding Lebanon.bibi: no
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-said-to-urge-netanyahu-to-withdraw-idf-troops-from-syria-lebanon-in-recent-call/ >>2866863If they supported the most genocidal political organization in history then they are anything but โinnocentโ
>>2866881MAGAs aren't going to stop their bullshit until they're thrown into gulags
>It's often opined that Trump would be more effective if he were capable of some restraint. That a truly dangerous autocrat would mask his designs better. This not only misses a huge part of his appeal, but what one of the central aims of this movement is.
>Many millions of Americans love Trump because he routinely humiliates people. It validates their own actions. They live vicariously though him, imagining the humiliation they could inflict if they were given greater power. He also normalizes the behaviour. The symbolic power of having someone of his open sadism in the Oval Office is massive. It is changing our society, making humiliation much more acceptable, and corroding the norms that partially restrain humiliators. https://www.liberalcurrents.com/the-politi/Do you agree with this? Asking as someone outside of America, I have no idea what MAGA people are like
>>2866853People have choices about where they go or what type of thing they attend including and even women
>>2866893Menken was a chud–me
>>2866781They have been disappearing activists to CIA black sites since forever
>>2866863>which is probably secretly coordinated with the fascists who want to brutalize innocent young womenfuck you are such a patronizing dipshit holy fuck
>>2866872Iโm honestly sick and tired of everything having to revolve around some stupid blood feud between two semitic tribes that both believe in ultra-reactionary fascist bronze age ferry tales that promote capitalism, genocide, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. I get that the zionist genocide of Gaza is really horrible and needs to stop (ideally a two-state solution would be implemented), but leftists need to stop simping so hard for islamist fascist Arabs and acting like they are any better or any different then zionist Jewish fascists and white evangelical Christian fascists, lol. Real Marxists equally oppose all Abrahamic retardation and refuse to take sides in inter-reactionary conflicts.
>>2866895You will never convince me to let my future girlfriend go to a dangerous larp protest where she could get brutalized by fascists.
>>2866898This is why if you care about your girlfriend you will not let her engage in risky larp activism that would make her become a target for fascists that want to brutalize her.
>>2866899Why donโt you try to disprove my argument?
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2866902I kept waiting for him to see the "they" was Israel.
>>2866901Not only are you a misogynistic weirdo who types like an LLM, you're also ban evading
We seem to have a great influx of roleplayers who insist on cycling through as many VPNs as possible in order to create some story nobody cares about on a dying leftist website
get his ass
>>2866901Well go get one 1st and tell us how it goes or dont
>>2866911i would believe he was real if he at least stayed in the /siberia/ thread dedicated to this nonsense but it seems he wants to shit this one up when it's plenty shitty by default.
Hey mensheviks,
My name is Lenin, and I hate every single one of you lickspittles. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever read any theory? I mean, I guess itโs fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on Twitter.
Donโt be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. Iโm pretty much perfect. I was head of Iskra, and labor organizer in my oblast. What kind of labor-power do you organize, other than "gooners"? I also get monarchists mad, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just transcribed me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.
Pic Related: Itโs me and my girlfriend
>>2866923>lewd oriental woodcuts Lmao
I know this is an odd place to post this, but Iโm up to 5 sets of squats at 310 pounds and I just want to say weโre all gonna make it leftypol
>>2866922>>2866923Lenin and Krupskaya's relationship gotta be the most obvious Lavender Marriage in all of history.
>>2866936Damn and I thought I was tuff with a 100kg/220lbs record.
>>2866937he obviously had the hots for Plekhanov
>>2866939Itโs all just steady progress. I squat 3 days a week so itโs probably the exercise I do the most.
Be proud of what you accomplished so far anon, youโre doing a lot better than some!
>>2866935>piSSraHHellpiSSraKKKel
>>2866937they both strike me as more asexual and autistic than gay tbh
>>2866923Pretty sure Lenin was friends with father gapon while they were in exile
can someone summarize what's going on with the dsa? i've been seeing it all over my social media feeds and i have zero context for anything
Las Vegas is equivalent to any one of those stupid Saudi or Qatari projects.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/14/us/politics/trump-subpoenas-law-firms-epshteyn-aba.html
>Since President Trump cut deals with nine of the countryโs top law firms early in his second term to head off potentially crippling executive orders, the firms have largely continued to generate vast profits and the White House has appeared to leave them alone.
>But in recent days, behind closed doors, the uneasy truce between the firms and the White House has erupted into a pitched legal battle.
>At the center of that fight is Mr. Trumpโs personal lawyer, Boris Epshteyn, and questions about the role he played in striking the deals.Dudes name is really boris epshtein
>>2866961Las Vegas at least got that way in a slightly more organic way and it's been in its current form long enough that it would be more trouble than its worth to completely overhaul it. Bomb Dubai though absolutely
>>2866964>Lenin, who had been highly suspicious of Father Gapon, admitted that the formation of Assembly of Russian Workers of St Petersburg and the occurrence of Bloody Sunday, had made an important contribution to the development of a radical political consciousness: "The revolutionary education of the proletariat made more progress in one day than it could have made in months and years of drab, humdrum, wretched existence." (33)
<After the massacre Georgi Gapon left Russia and went to live in Geneva. Bloody Sunday made Father Gapon a national figure overnight and he enjoyed greater popularity "than any Russian revolutionary had previously commanded". (38) Gapon announced that he had abandoned his ideas of liberal reforms and had joined the Socialist Revolutionary Party (SRP). He also had meetings with Lenin, Peter Kropotkin, George Plekhanov and Rudolf Rocker. Lenin was disappointed that Gapon had joined the SRP and told him that he hoped he would "work to obtain that clarity of revolutionary outlook necessary for a political leader." (36)Gapon was a celebrity among all the revolutionary exiles at the time and met Lenin several times
https://spartacus-educational.com/RUSsunday.htm >>2866964Another source from the uploaded book:
Although Gapon was formally excluded from the princi
pal revolutionary parties, he remained on friendly terms
with most of their leaders. He was particularly attached to
Plekhanov, whom he called his โrespected teacher.โ22
Gapon frequently visited Lenin, who was very curious
about the priest and willing to listen. As Krupskaia remem
bered: โIn Geneva Gapon began to visit us frequently. He
talked a lot. Vladimir Ilโich listened attentively, trying to
discern in his accounts the features of the approaching rev
olution.โ Leninโs conversations with Gapon helped per
suade him to alter the Bolshevik agrarian policy.
>>2866968Interesting. Thanks!
>The ultimate billionaire flex is no longer buying a mansionโor even two. Deep-pocketed buyers are increasingly snapping up neighboring properties to create private compounds, with amenities from parking to padel. โโLandmaxxingโโthe quest to optimize oneโs land holdings by acquiring more acreageโdrove the luxury market during the first part of the year, according to a new midyear report from Coldwell Banker, which said U.S. luxury-property searches doubled in the first five months of the year, compared with 2025. Searches for buildable land are up 97% year-over-year, while searches for distinct properties, including private islands and estates, more than doubled. Unlike the rest of the housing market, which has been vulnerable to higher interest rates and economic uncertainty, luxury real estate is fueled by lifestyle and massive wealth creation. โIf people want to move, and have cash, they canโand they do,โ said Mary Lee Blaylock, president of Coldwell Banker Affiliates. Overall, average luxury sales volume from January to May rose 2.8% year-over-year for single-family homes while the median price rose 4.7% to $1.83 million.โ
Who up landmaxxing
>>2866935Already doing it with the cops too. Been for a while. They want a stronger grip, but I donโt think their efforts here will hold things together for them.
>>2866864fake news. bibi doesn't do things he knows can alter trump.
The Blues are cooked. Looks like Democraps canโt help but burn the kitchen.
https://www.project2029.me/https://www.project2029.me/housing-is-a-human-right>Housing is a human right. The United States, the United Nations, and numerous other U.S. states and countries recognize the human right to adequate housing. 12 Every person in the U.S. has a right to a roof over their head without discrimination or exception. The human right to housing that underpins this framework does NOT mean the government has to build or provide a home for every American. It does mean that the government has a responsibility to implement policies and regulate systems in support of an adequate supply of housing for all, and not to punish those who shelter or sleep outdoors due to a housing shortage. This human right to adequate housing is our foundation for addressing current housing and homelessness problems.>>2866939legs are strong muscles. intermediate strength (going regularly to gym, eating a regular diet), you should be able to lift 2 to 2.5 times your own weight in a year of regular training in leg presses.
leg day's for fags
>>2866990Not him but I'm all fucked up. I'm skinny and have strong arms but I already have arthritis in my knees in my 30s
>>2866993diagnosed or… self-diagonosed?
have you visited a traumatologist? they are very good at diagnosing arthritis (though if the arthritis is of renal origin, a rheumatologist will diagnose it). after that a physiotherapist is the one you need to talk to.
>>2867001diagnosed. I got an X ray because I thought I fractured my hip. They said my hip was fine but noticed arthritis in my knees.
>>2866995>t. canโt do a single pull-upWe know, fatty
>>2867002talks to a physiotherapist, they can help you to find exercises and activities according to your condition and expectations, in the most humanly possible way.
the latest ice murders have barely made the news. they've successfully normalized the gestapo.
what's new in the free world
>>2867021>>2867022News is bought and paid for.
>>2866603it has occurred to me, it's gonna be vandalized in the neck with a hole in it, isn't it?
pic semirel.
It's actually comical how rahm emanuel thinks he has a shot at the presidency. The DNC are truly delusional if they put weight behind his campaign
>>2867026well man, they always present a handful of morons.
klobuchar?
butt-y-heh?
bloomberg?
all caricatures.
>>2866666Hydrogen trvth nuke with quints. The American right wing exist in American lore as asshole antagonist. They've produced zero heros and no matter how hard they try to take control of the culture of rewrite history. Theyll always be cartoon villains that exist solely as an obstacle to come over.
>>2867009>you should work all your muscles including your legs<FAGGOT THAT MEANS YOU CANT DO A PULLUPare you stupid? you seem stupid.
>>2866904>there has to be a 200IQ cabal of jews running everything, the idea that reactionaries, Israeli or otherwise, are a bunch of retards steering ships into icebergs, frightens meit's ok lil chuddy
>>2866936congrats anon thats very impressive. havent been able to lift in a couple years bc dont have private space/weights/access to a gym, but also feel better when i have even a moderate but consistent lifting routine. and thats a genuinely impressive max, best ive gotten is like 220, only 40lbs over my 180 body weight
i find myself hating the american left a lot more than the american right these days. i mentioned something on reddit about getting food poisoning from some frozen fish bought from a kroger supermarket chain and they just victimblamed me for buying frozen fish at a kroger instead of fresh fish from a reputable local fresh seafood market and when i explained that i don't live in a city a local fresh seafood market they mocked me for thinking that i have the right to eat fish when i am obviously too much of a lower class middle america slob to enjoy such luxuries, and when i revealed that it was tilapia they really started laying into me about how i'm supporting animal cruelty and i am an idiot eating cheap trash fish loaded with "toxins" and i deserved to get sick.
another time i saw a cope thread by some redditor after trump was re-elected where this person was saying they wished they could leave america and western society and live in a place that was "outside of history" such as africa or south asia, they actually used the words "outside of history" to describe these places and nobody seemed to find anything problematic about that at all and they chimed in agreeing with the comment saying that it would be better to be living in mud huts and walking around with sticks like all the people in africa do than to have to live under 4 more years of maga, it was like seeing 19th century joseph conrad-esque eurocentrism coming out of the mouths of these supposedly "leftist" liberal imbeciles in the year 2024.
>>2866603Why are Putinoids always glazing and financing the AmeriKKKan right?
>>2867047you hate the left because you got bullied on reddit?
>>2866539>AllowYou're not a Marxist or a communist or a socialist if you think you should be able to dictate what your partner reads
>>2867050Unironically because they want to destabilize the U.S. they also think they got purchase with the right wing in the U.S and the system is so corrupt they do to an extent. However the state department is still propping up Ukraine. Its mostly fell on the E.U lately but the U.S is still trying to break Russia through Ukraine. So all that money buying up media space, influencers, pundits like Dave rubin and Tim pool. Still hasn't translated into any normalization between the U.S and Russia. Either because they're being outbid or the war machine is on autopilot or out of the hands of even the likes of the president, congress, the senate or popular support. Regardless russia has been diversify by funding the ACP.
>>2867052yes, exactly. i had firsthand experience witnessing the elitism, classism, and passive-aggressive white nationalism of middle-class american liberals and i decided i hate those people even more than i hate maga and the right it also kind of drove the point home that there really isn't any left or right in america, america is just a society of mostly terrible stupid people who deserve to suffer and die horribly.
>>2867055Pre-2017 before Trump got into office RT actually leaned left similar to Telesur. They only care about actors that can cause the most chaos or are more diplomatic towards Russia. This means RT Espanol is a completely different than RT US. The left currently with AOC and Bernie Sanders seems to lean Ukraine with nothing on defunding Ukraine but there are right wing skeptics like MTG. So you end up funding them, only lefty I can think of skeptical of Ukraine is Darializa Avila Chevalier.
>>2867057zamn thats crazy dawg. im so sorry that happened to you ๐๐๐๐๐
>>2867057>there really isn't any left or right in america, america is just a society of mostly terrible stupid people who deserve to suffer and die horribly.most people are terrible and stupid all over the world and always have been. but nobody deserves to die horribly. this will be unpopular on here but i really think that. "deserves" what does that even mean? shit just happens. everyone fights over stuff and they either win or lose. What does "deserves" mean. I believe in might makes right, not because it's ethical but because that's how shit actually works in practice. people try to create systems which protect weak from strong but in reality they just protect strong from weak, rich from poor. there is no "deserves" nobody "deserves" anything. a child who never had the chance to hurt anyone in a serious way will die screaming from some horrible disease, while some rapist pedophile billionaire will die at 110 in his bed, getting head. "deserves" is just the fantasy of the butthurt. make shit happen or don't.
DSA just released their national program - what do we think?
https://program.dsausa.org/ Personally just think it's just more socdem reformist nonsense to me though I know that's because of their constraints as a "mainstream" political organization
Still, would've been nice to see a mention of worker's council somewhere
>>2867047you need to stop talking to these people, it's only going to demoralize you. "social media" is a scourge on human perception.
the US left is embryonic at best. let alone viable communist movement here, until we make it ourselves. maybe you dont have the time or money or patience to get involved, thats okay, but you need to find a way to get those things and get involved. thatll take a long time, but theres no way around trial and error and learning the hard way. you need to be honest with yourself about your capabilities and your limits, and you need to be honest with yourself about when you cant do something vs when you just dont feel like it.
find an org anf set aside 2-5 hours a week to contribute, and ask specifically how you can contribute and commit to very specific contributions. give it 3 months longer than whenever you decide its all bullshit. if you still think its all bullshit, move onto something better and make a list of what that org did right and wrong, and approach the next org you join with those things in mind. always keep and open mind towards the people you organize with, people will surprise you. always stay critical, people can talk a lot of shit that sounds right and then simply be wrong, strategically and tactically.
its awful out here, i wish it wasnt like this. but remember that we only need to start from 0 because every prior generation of leaders and mentors in the US was killed, imprisoned, or otherwise discarded. and remember its on us, no one is coming to save us.
>>2867035I never said "they" were smart.
>>2867047The problem here is that you are on reddit. It really is a disgusting place, filled with the most whiny, self righteous, libleft ziorat midwits of all time. Browsing that site for more than 15 minutes at a time can do serious damage to your morale. I'm sorry that happened to you, you should be more careful in the future
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What are the contradictions between democrat and republican parties?
>>2867110one represents the international bourgeoise and the other the national bourgeoise
>>2867136Not even true.
>>2867110They are a uniparty. They are only allowed to have differences of opinion on things that don't matter to the business interests they work for, like Trans sports/bathrooms, being openly racist/homophobic/islamophobic. They keep the public discourse around these harmless issues for them, the ones that don't matter to the business interests like whether the trans are in sports or not, and they do performative fights over these subjects, mostly when they're campaigning, but when it comes time to pass a bill that benefits the business interests, it passes through no problem.
>>2867138So, in america, there are no contradictions between various bourgeoisie and their industries?
>>2867072yeah I like this and support it but i don't know how they think this plank doesn't involve a civil war. Do they think if they get voted in and follow the rules with a majority then they get to change things because the rules say so and that's politics? also how are we making a nice cozy welfare state when we shut off the superprofits?? People who support the DSA keep talking about how we are at a new moment for their approach due to the material realities of organizing in the USA, but they still fail to articulate how they aren't heading to the same brick wall every democratic socialist movement has ever hit. They are still flying blind in regarding imperialism and questions of the state.
>>2866603How long is it gonna take for someone to vandalize it with a neck wound? My bet is on less than a week
>>2867138>Nuh uh!!!Solid rebuttal.
>>2867136What's the difference between international and national bourgeoisie in american context? Why can't national bourgs just be international bourgs?
>>2867141>So, in america, there are no contradictions between various bourgeoisie and their industries?Sure I imagine so, but both parties represent both pretty much equally. It seems like people like to think in like video game terms like this party represents this group vs. that group. Well for one, there isn't really so much of a party system, each congressman and senator is their own entity, and they take money from whichever company wants to give it to them and that's usually based on where those companies have local interests. On the whole, most companies give money equally to both Dems and Republicans or it may swing back and forth over a period of time.
You can just look up any company on
https://www.opensecrets.org/ But there is never really any pattern to any of them, they all sponsor both parties on the whole. Kinda of a smart strategy to bet on both horses so you always win. Anyways in summation, they buy individual politicians, not parties.
>>2867147You made no argument so there is nothing to rebut.
>>2867072More like if you like if you like have control of congress man, like you know…the people who write the checks for the military, like you can just not give them the money maaaan.
>>2867146Carney and Macron promised us NAM but imperialist, but they don't have the cajones for it.
>>2867151>You made no argument yes i did
>>2867158nta, but you made an assertion not an argument. A commonly confused difference on this site
>>2867161>there are two sets of irreconcilable interests in the world. those of the combined international bourgeoisie and those of the individual national bourgeois of each nation. This has no basis in fact lol. They all represent the biggest corporations and they're all multinational corporations. What are you basing this off of?
>this is why its easier for AES states to deal with republicansLol, lmao even. I guess that is true for Cuba and Venezuela huh?
>>2867034>canโt follow a simple chain of replies nor a conversation as a result of functional illiteracy >tries to call someone stupid Median Amerikkkan behavior
>>2867161>democrats are the shield when things are going great for them and their allies and republicans are the hammer when american interests need to be prioritized. this is why its easier for AES states to deal with republicansAnd one statement doesn't follow from the other, why would it be easier to deal with the hammer than the shield?
Bro really believes that the Republicans are actually against the "globalists" or something.
>>2866672the way you sperg out makes it look like you conflate median and arithmetic average.
>>2867163its not a fact that the interests and needs of the international bourgeoisie are often at loggerheads with the interests and needs of the national bourgeoisie? straight up retarded my man, read Lenins Imperialism
>Lol, lmao even. I guess that is true for Cuba and Venezuela huh?as opposed to Biden who got the international bourgeoisie wrapped up in a war in ukraine and israel, yes
>>2867165>why would it be easier to deal with the hammer than the shield?because america fucked up and got spanked in Hormuz. the hammer swing missed and smashed american hegemony, much to Chinas and Russias delight
>>2867161But burger bourgs are the highest, most powerful bracket of bourgs. Their interests are the interests of the international bourgeoisie, which they are a part of and make up the leadership of.
What is the difference, in the american context, between an international bourg and a national bourg? Like give me a practical example of either, how or why are they mutually exclusive?
>>2867167>its not a fact that the interests and needs of the international bourgeoisie are often at loggerheads with the interests and needs of the national bourgeoisie? straight up retarded my man, read Lenins ImperialismWhy don't you try reading something from this century?
>as opposed to Biden who got the international bourgeoisie wrapped up in a war in ukraine and israel, yesWho are the AES countries involved there? I didn't make the claim Democrats were better, you made the claim Republicans are better.
>because america fucked up and got spanked in Hormuz. the hammer swing missed and smashed american hegemony, much to Chinas and Russias delightYes that's true, Trump's war is much better for Iran than the JCPOA.
God I hate this type of retard. Just makes nonsensical arguments. Jumps from point to point. Then it's just "uhhh read Lenin! It tells you everything you need to no about geopolitics and American politics in 2026!" Criminally retarded.
>>2867055>So all that money buying up media space, influencers, pundits like Dave rubin and Tim pool. Still hasn't translated into any normalization between the U.S and Russia. Either because they're being outbid or the war machine is on autopilot or out of the hands of even the likes of the president, congress, the senate or popular support.Public opinion can't really affect it, but sympathy for Russia in the U.S. is also very low, it might be in the single digits. Like really it might be four percent of the population and that's generous. Direct military and financial aid to Ukraine is probably more controversial among Republicans which is why Trump has offloaded the costs to Europe so the U.S. just sells weapons that end up in Ukraine (Trump is always the businessman!) while keeping the clandestine CIA stuff going. In general I think it's very hard for governments to influence other countries. Also media is so fragmented today anyways, you'd think that would help but maybe not.
Probably outbid as well. I think Russians who are doing influence operations are also grifting their own system and trying to convince their own superiors that there's a big audience for whatever it is they're trying to manipulate. The opportunity to steal is really obvious because it's secretive and usually not subject to much oversight.
>>2867179Mmmmm delicious porky seethe
>>2867178Rephrase the question whether they sympathize more with Russia or Ukraine
>>2867171>Why don't you try reading something from this century?Okay consumerist
>>2867181Yeah, sure. Looks like war support even had an uptick. This is from a year ago tho.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/694496/americans-widely-pessimistic-ukraine-russia-peace-deal.aspx> Which would you prefer the U.S. to do in the Russia-Ukraine conflict โ try and end the conflict as quickly as possible, even if it means allowing Russia to keep territory it has captured from Ukraine (or) support Ukraine in reclaiming territory Russia has captured, even if it results in a more prolonged conflict between the two nations? I think most Americans don't care one bit at all about this bullshit. This shit is never in the news anymore and most people don't even watch the news. Probably not coming up in the social media algorithms either. I think when you ask Americans about these conflicts, it acts more of like a quiz where they have to dig deep to remember which they were supposed to be supporting. It'd be like asking which side do you support in Sudan or something.
It's more that 100% of the media apparatus, and almost 100% of the politicians support the war and Ukraine. Very few outliers like Vance and I guess Trump although they're not firmly committed to any stance obviously.
>>2867185>I think most Americans don't care one bit at all about this bullshit … It'd be like asking which side do you support in Sudan or something.Yeah. Vladimir Pozner said he didn't think Soviet propaganda had much effect because most Americans lived in a very insulated kind of existence and didn't care what happened outside of their own stinky town in Tennessee. It was harder then in some ways because they broadcasted over shortwave radio, which not that many people listened to, although more people used to. He thought it had more influence in some third-world countries which had more repressive regimes, therefore you couldn't get basic information about stuff, but you could listen to Moscow Radio or Voice of America or BBC, and there were people who listened to all three.
>>2866415>You would need the military and intelligence community on your side, the very people you hate for doing imperialism>>2866424>The only way anything changes is through military coup>>2866426>Chairman Milley will return and install the DoTP.The role of the military in revolutions is of interest to me lately. Israel has wanted to ethnically cleanse Gazans by driving them into the Sinai, but Egypt has tried to prevent that because there will be a revolution there and it's quite possible that soldiers in the army would refuse to repress the workers. If that happened then revolution would be a real possibility.
If there are large enough strikes then the ruling class will eventually freak out and send out the soldiers. If the soldiers follow orders then they will crush the strikes most (if not all?) of the time because the amount of force they can bring to bear is so extreme. If the soldiers refuse to follow to orders and side with the workers, then you could get a relatively bloodless revolution. The third possibility is the army splits and you have a civil war which is what happened in Russia and that will also affect the kind of regime the revolutionaries set up if they win because they will have to fully militarize themselves to win the war.
Anyways, in the U.S., the all-volunteer military has become a "choice," so you get this weird glazing from the right (and liberals) all the time about soldiers because they "chose" to serve, and at the same time some portions of the left (more online though than IRL I think) moralize about soldiers like vegetarians lecturing people for eating meat. Even though the leftists doing that often consider themselves to be communists or radicals in some kind of way, it's a very individualized and atomistic approach. And then leftists who do want to encourage fraternization with soldiers will say, well, the reason they joined the military is because they were poor, which comes across as condescending. So we're in a very bad situation.
>>2867189>If there are large enough strikes then the ruling class will eventually freak out and send out the soldiers. If the soldiers follow orders then they will crush the strikes most (if not all?) of the time because the amount of force they can bring to bear is so extreme. If the soldiers refuse to follow to orders and side with the workers, then you could get a relatively bloodless revolution. The third possibility is the army splits and you have a civil war which is what happened in Russia and that will also affect the kind of regime the revolutionaries set up if they win because they will have to fully militarize themselves to win the war.There's just no fucking way. You think the army can't just immediately court marshal whoever shows even the first sign of mutinous ideation? Even if a whole camp mutinied it would be no problem to immediately bring in an overwhelming force to retake it. I think it's pretty obvious the military is going to lean more reactionary, although there may be left and liberal inclined people within it, but even if they were 50/50 it would be no problem to remove all the left-sympathetic people and recruit more reactionaries.
Anyways, Engels wrote about all this stuff.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1895/03/06.htm
>Let us have no illusions about it: a real victory of insurrection over the military in street fighting, a victory as between two armies, is one of the rarest exceptions. And the insurgents counted on it just as rarely. For them it was solely a question of making the troops yield to moral influences which, in a fight between the armies of two warring countries, do not come into play at all or do so to a much smaller extent. If they succeed in this, the troops fail to respond, or the commanding officers lose their heads, and the insurrection wins. If they do not succeed in this, then, even where the military are in the minority, the superiority of better equipment and training, of uniform leadership, of the planned employment of the military forces and of discipline makes itself felt. The most that an insurrection can achieve in the way of actual tactical operations is the proficient construction and defence of a single barricade. Mutual support, the disposition and employment of reserves โ in short, concerted and co-ordinated action of the individual detachments, indispensable even for the defence of one borough, not to speak of the whole of a large town, will be attainable only to a very limited extent, and usually not at all. Concentration of the military forces at a decisive point is, of course, out of the question here. Hence passive defence is the predominant form of struggle; an attack will be mounted here and there, by way of exception, in the form of occasional thrusts and assaults on the flanks; as a rule, however, it will be limited to the occupation of positions abandoned by retreating troops. In addition, the military have at their disposal artillery and fully equipped corps of trained engineers, means of warfare which, in nearly every case, the insurgents entirely lack. No wonder, then, that even the barricade fighting conducted with the greatest heroism โ Paris, June 1848; Vienna, October 1848; Dresden, May 1849 โ ended in the defeat of the insurrection as soon as the leaders of the attack, unhampered by political considerations, acted according to purely military criteria, and their soldiers remained reliable.
>The numerous successes of the insurgents up to 1848 were due to a great variety of causes. In Paris, in July 1830 and February 1848, as in most of the Spanish street fighting, a civic guard stood between the insurgents and the military. This guard either sided directly with the insurrection, or else by its lukewarm, indecisive attitude caused the troops likewise to vacillate, and supplied the insurrection with arms into the bargain. Where this civic guard opposed the insurrection from the outset, as in June 1848 in Paris, the insurrection was vanquished. In Berlin in 1848, the people were victorious partly through considerable reinforcements in the shape of new fighting forces during the night and the morning of March 19th, partly as a result of the exhaustion and poor rations of the troops, and, finally, partly as a result of the paralysis engendered by the command. But in all cases the fight was won because the troops failed to respond, because the commanding officers lost the faculty to decide or because their hands were tied.
>Even in the classic time of street fighting, therefore, the barricade produced more of a moral than a material effect. It was a means of shaking the steadfastness of the military. If it held out until this was attained, victory was won; if not, the outcome was defeat. This is the main point which must be kept in view, also when examining the outlook for possible future street fighting. [The last sentence is omitted in Die Neue Zeit and in the 1895 edition of Die Klassenkampfe in Frankreich 1848 bis 1850]
>Back in 1849 already, this outlook was pretty poor. Everywhere the bourgeoisie had thrown in its lot with the governments, โculture and propertyโ had hailed and feasted the military moving against insurrection. The barricade had lost its magic; the soldier no longer saw behind it โthe peopleโ, but rebels, subversives, plunderers, levellers, the scum of society; the officer had in the course of time become versed in the tactical forms of street fighting, he no longer marched straight ahead and without cover against the improvised breastwork, but went round it through gardens, yards and houses. And this was now successful, with a little skill, in nine cases out of ten.
>But since then there have been very many more changes, and all in favour of the military. If the big towns have become considerably bigger, the armies have become bigger still. Paris and Berlin have, since 1848, grown less than fourfold, but their garrisons have grown more than that. By means of the railways, these garrisons can, in twenty-four hours, be more than doubled, and in forty-eight hours they can be increased to huge armies. The arming of this enormously increased number of troops has become incomparably more effective. In 1848 the smooth-bore, muzzle-loading percussion gun, today the small-calibre, breech-loading magazine rifle, which shoots four times as far, ten times as accurately and ten times as fast as the former. At that time the relatively ineffective round shot and grape-shot of the artillery; today the percussion shells, of which one is sufficient to demolish the best barricade. At that time the pick-axe of the sapper for breaking through fire proof walls; today the dynamite cartridge.
>On the other hand, all the conditions of the insurgentsโ side have grown worse. An insurrection with which all sections of the people sympathise is hardly likely to recur; in the class struggle all the middle strata will never in all probability group themselves around the proletariat so exclusively that in comparison the party of reaction gathered round the bourgeoisie will well-nigh disappear. The โpeopleโ, therefore, will always appear divided, and thus a most powerful lever, so extraordinarily effective in 1848, is gone. If more soldiers who have seen service came over to the insurrectionists, the arming of them would become so much the more difficult. The hunting and fancy guns of the munitions shops โ even if not previously made unusable by the removal of part of the lock on police orders โ are far from being a match for the magazine rifle of the soldier, even in close fighting. Up to 1848 it was possible to make the necessary ammunition oneself out of powder and lead; today the cartridges differ for each gun, and are everywhere alike only in one point, namely, that they are a complicated product of big industry, and therefore not to be manufactured ex tempore, with the result that most guns are useless as long as one does not possess the ammunition suited only to them. And, finally, since 1848 the newly built quarters of the big cities have been laid out in long, straight, broad streets, tailor-made to give full effect to the new cannons and rifles. The revolutionary would have to be mad to choose of his own accord the new working class districts in the north or east of Berlin for a barricade fight.Everything he said is spot on for America and only more true today.
>>2867070Someone do a side by side comparison with the NSDAPโs official program
>>2867170>But burger bourgs are the highest, most powerful bracket of bourgs.not powerful enough to flex their muscle on a middling power (iran) with no nukes or money apparently. Welcome to Multipolarism
>Their interests are the interests of the international bourgeoisie, which they are a part of and make up the leadership of. Demonstrably incorrect. why did the UK refuse to let america use their resources like landing strips to attack Iran? why was america forced to attack alone unlike in Iraq? Its because america is weak, cant accomplish any of its goals (getting rid of the iranian uranium) and the other imperialists realize that
>What is the difference, in the american context, between an international bourg and a national bourg? international bourg loves NATO and UN and the illusion of international law and national bourg (MAGA) loves explicit american orchestration of the world. liberal internationalism = status quo. nationalism = status quo disruption which russia and china love to exploit
>>2867202You have like a comic book level understanding of the world.
I dont think you people realize that america was only as powerful as it was because of its porky internationalism and cooperation with the other imperialists. maga national porky has more autonomy in what they do but they're by definition weaker without the international coalition the Dems can muster
>>2866936how many reps anon? my best is 3x3 315 i need to know if you even lift
>>2867204>uhhh ur wrongGREAT rebuttal
>>2867207Who is the national bourg as opposed to the international? Can you just answer a simple question?
>>2867210Bro, you're literally fucking retarded.
>>2867212You linked a question you retard.
But anyways, since this guy did all his Lenin reading from cartoons and memes:
>>2867177Lenin never spoke of a national bourgeois in imperialist nations.
I'm so tired of you dipshits. I think that's what I'm going to call you guys meme ML-kiddies.
>>2867218>Lenin never spoke of a national bourgeois in imperialist nationsItโs almost as if Marxism Leninism is the real movement, not a religious dogma!
>>2867218>If the proletariat of any one nation gives the slightest support to the privileges of its โownโ national bourgeoisie, that will inevitably rouse distrust among the proletariat of another nation; it will weaken the international class solidarity of the workers and divide them, to the delight of the bourgeoisie.why is this Neoliberal pretending to be a marxist? ๐ค
>>2867221So, now that we have moved past the point where you are pretending this is Leninism. I'm asking you who do you specifically consider the national bourgeois that the Republicans represent?
>>2867223You might want to read the whole context of that quote.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/self-det/ch05.htmThe Right of Nations to Self-Determination<5. THE LIBERAL BOURGEOISIE AND THE SOCIALIST OPPORTUNISTS IN THE NATIONAL QUESTION >asserts lenin never talked about national bourgeois
>gets proved wrong immediately
comical
>>2867202You forgot to answer
<Like give me a practical example of either, how or why are they mutually exclusive?What materially differentiate an american international bourg vs an american national bourg? Like who in particular is national and/or international within the ruling class? Because it seems more like you're differentiating the petit from haute bourgs
>why did the UK refuse to let america use their resources like landing strips to attack Iran?Because of the decline of american empire. It doesn't really have much to do with either dems or repubs being in charge imo
>>2867226You are literally illiterate:
>Lenin never spoke of a national bourgeois in imperialist nations. >>2867227>What materially differentiate an american international bourg vs an american national bourg? hillary clinton made the international TPP free trade agreement and wanted further NATO integration. maga killed the TPP agreement, is withdrawing troops from europe and set up trade barriers that ended the free trade neoliberal era that reigned since the 70s. you think euro porky is happy with any of that? obviously not
>>2867228bro doesnt realize what privileges means. try using your context clues
>>2867232That doesn't speak of a national bourgeois existing in imperialist nations. To give you a spark notes: the chapter is about national liberation movements and the national bourgeois in colonized countries, as opposed to the bourgeois in imperialist nations which are the international bourgeois.
>>2867231>>2867227you both sound like morons discussing power scaling of super heroes
>>2867231Imo the trump administration is just asserting dominance in europe, who kind of forgot in the stupor of post-90s euphoria who's in charge, europorkies are bending over backwards for trump, they don't care all that much/agree with american foreign policy unquestioningly
My question is more how is hillary materially international in her class position and any republic equivalent of hers (say Ted Cruz or something) is not? Their economic position seems equally international to me. The actual economic base of these political institutions, those people that support and fund them, not the schmucks who vote for them, they're all beholden to international capital regardless of anything else
>>2866603>>2867145honestly they should lean into it and turn it into a memorial fountain that just squirts out the neck
>erm acktually ๐ค that quote about imperialism is actually from a source about some other topic so its a no longer a quote about imperialism yep. i am very smart ๐ค
>>2867239Who are you referring to? Who said some quote was not about imperialism?
>>2867237>Imo the trump administration is just asserting dominance in europeexactly, they're forced to. the last 30 years america didn't need to flex dominance to get europe to suck their cock, now they need to, this is a preferable state of affairs
>Their economic position seems equally international to me. free trade and protectionism is equally international to you? no economic differences at all? huh??
>>2867245>"As of today, I am not in favor of what I have learned about it," Clinton said, later adding, "I don't believe it's going to meet the high bar I have set."she backed out because it was watered down didn't go far enough lol. had she gotten her way the entire pacific would have free trade
>President Trump on Thursday said the U.S. will send an additional 5,000 troops to Polandone reversal doesn't change the fact that troops have already been pulled. america will have no troops in estonia after this next rotation is completed
https://militarnyi.com/en/news/u-s-pulls-most-troops-out-of-estonia-no-military-presence-planned-beyond-2027/Last week:
"We could remove all of our soldiers out of Europe," he said. "Because as you probably noticed, Europe's a very different place than it was 20 years ago."https://www.cnbc.com/2026/07/07/trump-nato-summit-greenland-us-troops-europe.html >>2867247I don't mean their economic position as in whatever particular policy they put forth but as in their relation to the means of production
>>2867247The GOP isn't protectionist at all and neither is Trump really he only plays at it sometimes because of whatever vague notions in his head, not a coherent strategy.
But to remind this fucking gish-galloping poster. The original question was about a differences between Democrats and Republicans, not about Trump and Democrats.
https://www.thompsonhinesmartrade.com/2018/02/republican-senators-urge-president-re-engage-tpp-negotiations/>Twenty-five Republican senators authored a letter to President Trump encouraging his administration to re-engage in Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) free trade agreement discussions, which he abandoned shortly after taking office in January 2017. Despite the withdrawal of the United States from TPP negotiations, the remaining 11 countries continued negotiating the newly approved Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP), which is scheduled to be signed by its member countries March 8. This prompted a recent statement by President Trump that he may be interested in the multilateral deal if it could be made โsubstantially better.โLike I said, there is no daylight between Republicans and Democrats when it comes to serious business shit. They are a uniparty.
>>2867206Iโm on the 5x5 program so 5 sets of 5 reps
>>2867254>as in their relation to the means of productionhillary and trump collectively own zero (0) factories, most of which exist in china anyway. the way they think and act is a little more complex than what you assume here
>>2867255republicans are over. neocons are over. the only thing that exists now is MAGA. delusional if you think there's ever a status quo to return to
>The GOP isn't protectionist at all I look at the tariffs and laugh. only the brightest minds on leftypol
>>2867262Well I guess we will see in 2 years. Trump =/= GOP and atrump represents no coherent strategy. The tarrifs were just a scam btw. Lutnick made off like a bandit betting on the tarrifs getting refunded.
>>2867263watch as the rest of the world implements tariffs on each other and nothing changes until a trade war leads to a hot war. free trade had to end before revolution could begin
>>2867266>the sombreroLol, but watch how many Mexicans still support Trump. Just straight up: "fuck Mexicans!" And they will still support him. Cucked beyond belief.
>Latinos were also more likely to vote for Trump in 2024 than in prior elections. In 2024, 48% of Latino voters backed him, according to the Centerโs 2025 study on validated voters, up from 36% in 2020 and 28% in 2016.
<A Pew Research Center survey conducted in April finds that 66% of Latino Trump voters approve of his job performance. Thatโs down 27 percentage points since the start of his second term.At least he lost some I guess.
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