/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2884716
I don't see anyone who is a force for good in British politics, since virtue is largely a matter of civil society, rather than in the state. This is also why I see activist groups and charities providing services like food and shelter for the homeless, which is not a political act, but is still a virtuous act of society. I am not naive either and imagine that there is any "grassroots" potential in communities, since what is good is only an end in itself, and not a means to an end, and so virtue is not any type of "social capital", as it may be pretended. Matthew 6:
<when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth […] thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are […] that they may be seen of men […] pray to thy Father which is in secret […] use not vain repetitions
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206&version=KJV
The question of virtue thus continues into a "division" which you portray by means of intellect. If "correctness" is discerned, then it is not a political matter, either. Politics is often an inferior interest, since it exists in the realm of opinion and passion, not facts. As we know, opinions cannot be purely factual, and so 'correctness' is not a quality attributable to political orientation. Or is it? You may enlighten me.

>>2884696
Agreed, in response to your question of who do we organise: it would probably start with us lot talking about it here, no? But there are inherent issues of trust, and then what would we be? We don't want to be a reading group or soliciting donations like a fledgling party, maybe we'd have to orient it more around the skills at our collective disposable rather than the capital we have available.

>>2884753
What is there to organise around, exactly?
We are already operating in free association; a real life meet-up would just be some presumable homosexual foreplay, but nothing 'more' politically effective than what we're currently doing. When I was young I went to shouty rallies, but now it seems like a LARP unsuited for the contemplative, or worse, a civil religion of protest, like they have in France.

Guys, what do you think of Blue Labour, the more (socially) right-wing faction of the Labour Party whose member Shabana Mahmoud is Home Secretary, founded by a Jewish neocon, and whose head is Dan Carden?

I do have my fair of criticism for it, namely that it seems like another controlled opposition front against New Labour that doesn’t really seek to challenge it as much as pushing Labour to the right. Besides the obvious TERFism, there’s the fact that the faction seems to exist solely to peddle the British version of MAGAcommunism, but even more dumbed down since unlike MAGAcommunism it doesn’t put up pretended to not give a shit about culture wars imported from the USA, down to even opposing affirmative action (which is almost non-existent in the UK).

I don’t particularly reject the entirety of their ideas, as I do agree for instance that the UK public services should be more decentralised and that New Labour has been detrimental for community cohesion. But the rest is just a rebrand of starmerism but with more socialist facade. Particularly suspicious is the lack of opposition towards militarisation and defence spending that has come with the latest austerity measures.

Overall, I find the faction untrustworthy, and their reputation via Shabana has left me with a sour taste.

>>2884913
I'm a communist so I think they should all be killed with hammers.

>>2884945
Based

>>2884913
Social reactionaries, economic liberals, slimeball opportunists. Send them all to a gulag on the island of South Georgia.

>>2884945
Based why does leftybritpol seem so full of libs

>>2884945
Restore will win

>>2884954
Win what? A dozen or so councillors in England's most deprived seaside towns?

>>2884913
That a figure like Maurice Glasman can exist in our nominally centre-left party is an object example of how Britain goes beyond the usual vices of capitalist society and has cooked up something uniquely abominable.
A measure of him: As well as being a member of the global Trump nonce cabal (he was at the inauguration, telling everyone who'd listen the - truthful - point that Labour is not a liberal party, that it's the reactionary little Labour party.), a good pal of Steve Bannon, an EDL apologist, and that's just off the top of my head…
He gave a policy speech to the global-warming denialist "global warming policy foundation" he has an extended diatribe about how rainbows are a beautiful symbol of god flooding the planet because the original sin was victimhood culture, concluding
>And then the rainbow appeared, and it was a sign of his promise that He would never again try to destroy the world. Que sera sera. Unlike Putin, God renounced the nuclear option. The rainbow was a sign of God’s eternal commitment to the continued existence of the world. One of my political missions, by the way, is to reclaim the rainbow from the ownership of transexuals. A rainbow is a miraculous thing that looks beautiful even when witnessed from the Holloway Road. The story of the flood assured me that my historical analysis was correct.
Mental!

I have come to believe almost precisely the opposite of him and the appropriation of token communitarian and socdem rhetoric by him and his ilk has been one of the two major motivators for my growing tolerance of neoliberal ideas. The other, ironically as we will see, is that I think market forces could remove power from London and from our current ruling class/caste, either to competent regional firms or to international capital. (By no means a benevolent master, but nowhere near as malevolent or as committed to keeping us in penury as our domestic ruling class.) Indeed, an underrated critique of our historical nationalisation program is that in the long-run it helped move power to the centre, and it did not return to the periphery post-"privatisation". Of course, in practice, the bastardised implementation of neoliberalism has lead to the rise of him and his global Trump-cult allies, but this demands fair analysis - just as the bastardised Keynesianism of the postwar consensus lead almost irrevocably to Thatcherism and to Blairism. (and for all Mr. Glasshouse disavows Blair, Blair shared much of the same communitarian fetish and indulgence of reactionary rhetoric, briefly considered "thinking the unthinkable" on welfare in 1997-8 with Frank Field, and of course Blair too is on the pro-War, pro-Trump side of things more generally. You'll forgive me if I put them in the same boat of "much worse than just selling the whole country to Toyota and letting Akio Toyoda run the place.")

I would be open to compromise on almost anything if it could ensure his ilk, sympathisers, and useful idiots can be kept from power. I defend, in a circumscribed sense, economic liberalism and free trade and free markets and even parts of actually existing neoliberalism precisely because the alternative is not warm, competent, social democratic humanism, or even a sort of tough-but-idealistic modernised soviet style socialism, it is the visions of psycopaths like him and Bannon implemented through the borderline lawless administration of openly corrupt mobsters like Trump on the one hand and human vacuums like Starmer on the other, almost certainly trending towards a ruinous and potentially human-civilisation-destroying war in the final act. (As you touch on, there's always money for "defence", isn't there?)

Whatever nominally leftish sweeteners they throw in (dude we'll have factories again :) !) can only be understood in the context of the totality of their vision (weapons factories >:) !), which is unappealing in its own terms if you give equal weight to each part instead of allowing yourself to be seduced by wishfully reading only the parts you enjoy (the ol picrel trick) and when understood in terms of how it is actually likely to be implemented, weighed up against the class interests and so on within British society, it's just unspeakably awful.
The best idea of the lot - the only one on which we really agree - is with devolution and decentralisation of power, and that is precisely the least likely one to be implemented. (I've said in more words before: centralisation is the fundamental British ideology and one of the major causes of our unusually bad politics and unusually dysfunctional society. Between the hard task of taking power away from London, or the easy one of having the supreme court conclude you've an equality act protected right to shoot any transsexual who wears anything more colourful than John Major's hair so as to reclaim the rainbow, which do you think The Amazing Maurice and his Uneducated Lumpenproletariat will choose?)

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Life or rape for boymoder?

May I never be put at the mercy of the state.

>>2886418
Why is this country so cartoonishly evil?

>>2886418
Doesn't this go against Habeas Corpus or something

Something to consider 👉
If I commit suicide today or tomorrow I will not have to endure another heatwave next week!

poo

>>2886636
Yeah you'll have to endure hell for eternity

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>>2886636
But suicide is haram and hell is reported to be hot

>>2884988
Terry Pratchett mentioned

And to think that Spiked used to be a leftist rag mag. Sigh, the Trotskyist-to-neocohen pipeline proves to be undefeated once again

Posted on a Welsh 'nationalist' fascist instagram:

I should be able to get hospital care in Gaelic or Cornish should I please and immigrants should be able to get the care they needs all the same too
It's just performative cruelty to say, no we're going to forbid you from using the language that accurately allows you to explain your conditions or get the right help

Racist thugs storm homes of refugees
Police bracing for further violence have warned that those taking part in the disorder will face “the full force of the law,” with two more people arrested on Thursday on a third consecutive night of unrest in the Norfolk market town. People have attempted to storm homes linked to asylum-seekers following proposals to convert a former military base just over the border in Suffolk, RAF Barnham, into asylum-seeker accommodation for up to 3,750 people.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/racist-thugs-storm-homes-refugees

And in other news, Tommy 10 names tries to deny he has a coke addiction by lying about spending his years in prison in solitary confinement: https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/08/tommy-robinsons-solitary-confinement-lies-the-truth-behind-his-prison-claims/

I’ve actually covered the Oxford debate, and I’ll show it following this post.

Anyone here on fab swingers?

>>2887806
Ireland is the easiest because it's still visa free, and if you live there long enough you can get citizenship and then have your pick of EU country to live in on pre-Brexit terms. I will remind people of this every chance I get.

If you were one of the people who actually picked up some french in school you could use it to get bonus points in Canada, though you probably still need some kind of skilled qualification.

sad news. britains only centre-right free speach common sense bookshop has closed its doors.
you will not be able to get copies of evola, jared taylor, camp of the saints. 😭

More state complicity: https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/08/danny-tommos-pound-shop-nuremberg-with-blackshirt-patriots/

Ngl, the situation for the UK looks quite bleak from afar. Even if it’s a LARP, the fact that quasi-paramilitary groups of reactionary lumpen wignats are sprouting across the UK and coming with their own set of drones, guns, weapons and specialised uniforms whilst being treated with kiddie gloves by the liberal British government is a sign for worrying times to come, especially given how reactionaries are becoming more and more emboldened as seen in the race riots of 2024, 2025, and now 2026. The ChudIntern mockingbird influencer network outside the UK have been salivating at the prospect of a race war in British soil, and honestly I don’t have any solutions unfortunately.

There are also the issues of complacency, a lack of proper organisational structure, no sports clubs or other venues to recruit normies (especially young white men) into the anti-fascist cause, on the top of general defeatism.

I guess it’s understandable that emigration is popular for those that can afford it, especially as the countries seems to be more and more at the hands of the lumpenised wignats and their wannabe blackshirts, all of whom have some link with Loyalist paramilitaries and American christofascist dominionist militias.

Are the British isles a lost cause atm? Is Britain unsalvageable? What do you guys think?

>>2888178
My thought is this is just what liberalism begets. It was always an inevitability.

>>2888178
>no sports clubs or other venues to recruit normies (especially young white men) into the anti-fascist cause
Anti-fascists mostly say that young white men are the problem, so why and how would they recruit them?

>>2866927
What do you guys think of Injection Singh and his vigilantism? He says he works pro-bono for all races and faiths, Whites and Muslims included going after the nonces and hooligans no matter who they are.

>>2888228
He also takes on the Vodafone scammers.

>>2888228
>>2888230
Vs. a groomer

>>2888228
>>2888230
>>2888233
Never heard of him but seems like a top bloke. 👍

>>2888178
I saw several of your post on the matter and while it's a travesty that a nominaly leftist government isnt doing anything about what's basically thugs running around doing property damage and scaring people, you seem to be blowing things out of proportions. These guys have so far killed zero people, not even during the latest Northern Ireland riots and seems to be mostly a bunch of uncompetent genx spaz (quasi-gammons). They could be used by nefarious foreign agents into helping for "color revolution" of some sorts or as an ICE-like gestapo, but i doubt it.
So far organized transphobia killed more (young and mostly white) people in the UK than these guys or race hatred against browns did post-1999 but every left-of-center english act like it's normal to have a bunch of Robert Drumont-tier publications and personalitie solely dedicated to make British transgenders life impossible while also putting out hits on them (Brianna Gay case) and that we should talk about how Reform is totally gonna deport 8 million people for real and not just demolish every single infrastructures to sell the copper wires to jewish, saudi and american financiers while running an ICE style gestapo against workers.
All in all it is stupid and myopic to ignore this while whining about potential skinheads doing footy hooligan shit.

>>2888230
What a colossal fucking waste of time that was.

>>2888228
Like every wannabe modern hero, probably doing it to compensate for all the skeletons in his closet

>>2888281
He openly admits the skeletons in his closet. See: >>2866927

>>2888289
That audio clip is from this interview btw.

>>2888241
True. Trans people and other sexual/gender minorities are always the canary in the coalmine, as “degenerates” are often the first acceptable targets for reactionaries before they move onto racial/ethnic minorities and finally to “race traitors”. In this sense, transphobia is basically training grounds for fascism.

And it’s a shame too as apparently the early gay rights movement in the 1970s was partially bankrolled by trans millionaires. But now? Not only do most trans people lack an elite of their own, but most of them are economically destitute ranging from poverty to downright homelessness. I know it’s a cliche in our circle, but “first they came for… but then there was no one left to defend me” really applies here. Apart from a few completely deracinated individuals and a couple of actual leftists, most BAMEs and religious minorities went along with the TERF agenda. Do they deserve death for it? No. But they shouldn’t be surprised that the outcome of empowering TERFs and other transphobes would be the normalisation of other bigotries, whether it’s islamophobia, catholiphobia, or just plain racism.

Even the gays and lesbians that supported the LGB crap shouldn’t be surprised that the end result is an uptick in homophobia, especially among the very hooligans they support.

I guess that’s liberal democracy for you: No matter how much it sucks, it does well at avoiding class conflict by pushing idpol to the masses.

I’ll say this though: The rise of the alt-right can be traced back to the left’s failure to question sex assault dogma, especially since radfem theories on male sexuality is what drives much of the chuds’ praxis on raep. Like, the best the left can push is “To Kill a Mockingbird” and deconstructionist arguments on consent which isn’t going to sway anybody when applied to POC-on-white rape. A good example would be 2010s alt-righters claiming that Sweden is the world’s rape capital because of refugees from Africa and MENA, and leftists would answer back by pointing out the statistical flaws in Swedish rose stats, to which alt-righters would reply back by pointing out the hypocrisy of leftists only pointing to the social construction of crime when it applies to non-white people.

Obviously, the solution would be to apply the same social deconstruction and material analysis even in cases of white-on-POC and white-on-white rapes, but that would essentially mean a break with feminist idpol even if it doesn’t necessarily come at the expense of equal rights for women, and so the left simply let the alt-right go unopposed with the rape “hysteria”. And I put it in double-brackets because while there are legitimate cases of migrant rapes, far less attention is given to petty crimes and murder of men which are far more common than grave sexual crimes. I know normies are more easily goaded into sexual disgust and outrage over economics, but still…

On a second thought, I guess you’re right about hooligans. Their lack of military experience and intelligence means that they’ll most likely won’t amount to anything other than street gangs and brawlers unless the state actively supports them like with the brownshirts after 1933.

>>2888213
My two cents is that ageism plays as much of a role in terms of the left alienating young white men as implicit racism since infantilising and ageist rhetoric from leftists is all too common and normalised. Given how reactionary many young white men are, I think it would be worthwhile to recruit them given that most chuds don’t care about young men since they’ll pay lip service to MRA-style rhetoric only to throw any young white male under the bus for violating some random social more (e.g., cross-dressing as a form of self-expression), for example. I don’t think it’s as hopeless, if only because young white British men are still less reactionary than their elderly counterparts and generally more divided politically.

Essentially, I think a break with both liberal and radical feminisms to create space for a positive male self-image, combined with greater focus on labor issues and economics over idpol, would be better. That would mean having to tolerate casual bigotry unless it gets too serious, and overall loosening much of the etiquette from the woke era, among other concessions.

>>2888297
Self aggrandizing nonsense from local steroid user and petty criminal.
Every town in the country has a half dozen of these fuckers.

>>2888299
I don't buy this americanized understanding at all. Homosexuality will be completely accepted in british fascism just as it's completely accepted within british bourgeois and nobility.

>>2888330
It is only accepted in a qualified sense, relative to "you will burn in hell for this". There's a distinctly upper class homophobia that sees it as ridiculous in a childish sense, since a good public schoolboy is supposed to get it all out of his system at Eton.
(This is why Private eye is deeply homophobic, for example)

>>2888299
>Given how reactionary many young white men are
The vast majority of people on this website are young white men.
You are again alienating a group you apparently wish to rehabilitate.

>>2888373
Precisely. Homosexuality is made "respectable", not liberal.

>>2888798
Sure, but Leftypol is too fringe to be representative.

And like I’ve said, unlike older generations, young white men are still more politically split, making their rehabilitation more likely than white boomers, most of whom are on their deathbeds or too old to be wiling to change their opinions on anything at all.

>>2888798
the upshot of this is that there's a selection effect for a higher calibre and status of young man. (not on /leftypol/, of course, which is mostly imageboard losers.)
there is something shameful about a man who is not secure enough in his individuality to ignore attacks on "men" that clearly aren't related to him personally. if all you've got going for you is being male, you've got nothing. men are the high variance gender: easier to become a pure individual genius unfettered by this social category, but also easier to be a total fucking loser dragged down to the depths by the concrete-shoes of an outmoded social category.

now of course this is a touch unfair: why can women fall back on cheap idpol but men can't? a fair question logically, but a loser question practically. you wouldn't like any of the answers! so don't ask it - go cultivate something else.

>>2888843
with all i've said above: this is one area where Britain is anomalously good. young men here are much more left-leaning than in most countries.
(probably because they've been under 50 years of rightoid rule.)

Hugh Laurie is now cancelled everyone, add him to the list. No more watching House or Stuart Little.

>Women's Basketball league (WNBA) in the US doesn't have an explicit ban on trans people yet (they're still working on it)
>MAGA women's basketballer says the fact a ban hasn't been introduced already means little girls are at risk of being raped by evil transgenders or something
>2 brown MAGA Conservative ex-NBA players say they're going to apply to play in the women's league because of this, just as an excuse to bash the trans and feed the culture war
>Graham Linehan as you can expect goes bananas about this whole situation on twitter
>This prompt's Laurie to come out and say he supports Linehan and TERFism
>Linehan is so retarded he mistakes this as Laurie attacking him