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>Trump says he will declare the Strait of Hormuz US territory “pretty soon” while preparing a hard economic blow to force Iran into ending the war.<In response to Trump’s threats, Iran’s deputy foreign minister says the waterway will remain Iranian and that blockade enforcement will continue until the US accepts defeat.>Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi says the Islamabad MoU marked an “end of the war, not a ceasefire”, pointing out that the US violated the deal and fighting resumed, leaving no 60-day ceasefire to extend.<Araghchi also says negotiations between Iran and Oman regarding the Strait of Hormuz “may reach a conclusion soon”.>Abu Dhabi National Oil Company says one of its vessels came under attack in the Strait of Hormuz on Friday, reporting no injuries and that the situation was brought under control.<Oil prices rise more than a dollar a barrel as tanker attacks and stalled US-Iran peace talks drive Brent crude to $88.52 and US WTI to $82.40.>CENTCOM says US forces “redirected” 62 commercial vessels in the Arabian Sea after reinstating the naval blockade of Iranian portsChud's Law proven right yet again.
>>2892878I'm not sure there can be a civil war where one side are pacifists. At some point the Israeli state will probably recognize that they're better off without the haredis. They're basically an entire sect of welfare queens.
>>2892882then they will stop being pacifists
>>2892878Another example of actually existing feudalism. There are those who fight, and those who pray.
>>2892878>There will be a state without haredim>no more welfare queensI don't think anybody else in Israel would mind.
>>2892882Sure but they're the only ones making babies
>>2893085 israel kicking out religious Jews would be 100% kino
>BREAKING: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and Bahrain have completely lost trust and faith in the Trump administration and are now united in aggravation with the administration due to the lack of strategy and constant walking back from threats, with some thinking about cancelling the hosting of large US bases, per WaPo.
>A Gulf official says "Trump started this war, and we are paying the price," with anger now at its highest point of the entire war.
>Gulf states feel "unnecessarily entangled" in a war Trump is "trapped in and unable to resolve," with Trump's Iran policy described as "erratic" and "unpredictable," US "conduct in the region making them less safe, not more safe," and the US-Iran MoU described as "a joke."
>A mutual defense agreement signed by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan last week was “a signal to the U.S.,” a senior European official said.
>Severe US interceptor shortages have compounded the anger, with Gulf states being afraid of Iranian attacks and concerned that the US can't protect them anymore.https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2026/08/15/frustration-with-trump-grows-among-us-persian-gulf-allies-officials-say/Archive
https://archive.is/UKhjftake it with a grain of salt, these are 'anonymous officials' It is incredible how bad financialization hollowed out US military's capabilities. That's why they had to rely so much on Spec Ops over since 2010.
"Normaly" they would have rekt the Talibans, Iran, Houthis & the blowfishes, regime changed Venezuela with boot on the ground etc. But they can't do that anymore.
>>2893295>But they can't do that anymore.Because they lack popular support
>>2893163Retards have been reporting this since the war started yet if you switch on Arabic Jizzera or pay attention to official statements gulf states are uniformly in support of war/"de-escalation" by bombing Iran
>>2893312I won't claim it's not happening, trump didn't invade Iran, neither the Arab states formed a coalition with the US to invade Iran.
I can say their public speeches are either for the mass consumption, or they are rallying but gaining 0 traction.
also, they are not all monolithic nations, all thinking the same ideology.
>>2893462i require context etc
>>2893467>This image was sent to me from the field. These are messages US servicemen in the Persian Gulf have scribbled on the dust of an aircraft flap.
<"Be a good guy and do what Israel tells you to"
<"Operation Epstein Fury"
<"Peace deal #64 incoming… ALL THIS FOR THE HOLY LAND"(omitted text: "bibi's cuck", suck wienners and balls", "I love israel I am a good goy"
>I have no frame of reference, I can't compare it to the sentiments of US soldiers in previous conflicts. But I suspect these are new sentiments, or at least a new willingness to express them this openly and directly.
>But as one serviceman told me: "What people in the media don't understand when they compare past conflicts to this one, is this operation has no morale behind it. That makes a world of difference to service members deployed to undesirable locations indefinitely."
>Read that last part again: No morale. Deployed to undesirable locations INDEFINITELY.
>My own conclusion: When a war has no morale behind it, winning means that you simply end it. There is no other "winning" in such an unjust war.Trita Parsi:
>2010 Grawemeyer Award for Ideas Improving World Order recipient. Executive VP @quincyinst. Wrote Losing an Enemy & Treacherous Alliance. http://tritaparsi.substack.comhttps://nitter.net/tparsi/status/2088984699146240411tl;dr:
<US SOLDIERS WROTE ALL OF THAT ON THE DUST OF AN AIRCRAFT FLAP.for the 'y', 'E' writting styles, I am seeing, it's not one soldier.
>>2893494I don't understand how you can be old enough to join the army and not already realise this shit, but still be smart enough to realise it later. I guess forever war was okay until they were losing
The haredi are going to take over Israel and try to form a similar government to the IRI and collapse in 2 years because they literally can’t read or do math or have any skills outside of braiding their sidelocks
>>2893528you're overestimating the wisdom of 18 year olds or something lol. These people are recruited right out of high school and then there's no way back. You can't go awol or they kill you. You're stuck for like 5 years
>>2893498pardon my stupidity, but are you posting this video to show that the ship is dirty and stuff? I'm just missing the context and that's my best guess
>>2893578It's amazing how rust can make high-tech equipment look trashy. Had soviets invested in bondo, they might still look fancy to this day. smh.
>>2893462Is that someones fursona next to a pizza slice
>>2893581This is just.. insane
>>2893581post it on the banner thread
>>2893462>>2893494>>2893581>da jew forced us to deal with the falling rate of profit and expand markets saaramerifats are so pathetic it's insane
what's more is supposed marxists are celebrating their imperialist army for being redpilled hitlerites lmao
>Trita Parsi
Campists used to call you Mossad for quoting this guy btw who exposed Iran's extensive arms and oil deals with Israel well into the 90s lol
>>2892940No they won't, they just told you they will simply fuck off if they are tried to draft. Which is very good indeed, every israeli should be like them and fuck off.
https://www.amerikanets.com/p/they-saw-it-comingGood read on how the usa 100% knew that all of this was going to happen, but since they are all ideologically attached to the orange retard, they did it anyway. This is the best little part
>On the 11th of February, Trump held a situation room meeting with Rubio, Hegseth, General Caine, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, Steve Witkoff, Jared Kushner, and Netanyahu.39 Barnea and other Israeli officials attended virtually. The meeting lasted more than an hour, and the Israelis made their final case for the war. They said Iran’s ballistic missile program could be destroyed in a few weeks, Iran would be too weak to block the Strait of Hormuz, airstrikes would inspire the Iranian people to rise up against the government, Kurdish forces would bog Artesh down in Western Iran, and exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi would be on standby to seize power at the opportune moment. After Netanyahu’s presentation, President Trump responded, “Sounds good to me.” When others present brought up potential risks, Netanyahu told them inaction was a greater risk than action.Honestly, maybe even Cuba can liberate the usa at this point
>>2893710>In the early morning hours of March 23, 2003, at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, during the start of the United States invasion of Iraq, Sergeant Hasan Karim Akbar (born Mark Fidel Kools on April 21, 1971) threw four hand grenades into three tents in which other members of the 101st Airborne Division were sleeping, and fired his rifle at fellow soldiers in the ensuing chaos. Army Captain Christopher S. Seifert was fatally shot in the back, and Air Force Major Gregory L. Stone was killed by a grenade. Fourteen other soldiers were wounded by Akbar, mostly from grenade shrapnel.Holy shit. lmfao.
>>2893711No it'snot marxist here. Also i'm doing 12hr night shifts so give me a break
>>2893672You do it. Plox.
>>2893747The true crime of this event was how long this chud is on death row. America has some of the weirdest capital punishment rituals in the world. If this was the USSR, Akbar would have been shot the same day kek. Man, even the death penalty is some shitty grift.
>>2893777>chud*chad
you're the smelly chud
>>2893859My apologies.
I am trying to avoid the feds coming after me.
>>2893685the jews made me sign up to murder goat herders
>>2893743so this is why they hate hasan
>>2893685>what's more is supposed marxists are celebrating their imperialist army for being redpilled hitlerites lmaoI posted them, not because of a celebration, but I found it exhilarant.
I guess this is the "no fun allowed" zone :(
>>2893685>supposed marxists are celebrating their imperialist army for being redpilled hitleritesI think you misunderstood the pic. People are celebrating the low morale among the troops that those scribblings reveal.
>>2893584lol, he doesn't know.
>>2893462>>2893494They would all vote Trump again tho
>>2894215They killed her before she could finish reading the rest of Washington Bullets
>>2894224>Iran believes in capitalist peace and appeased US imperialism for decades skill issue
>>2894260
Ehhhh what are you smoking leftychud?
The peasants were on the side of the bolsheviks in 1917 for sure and then they split because of war communism and went with the SR's etc. But this is 1920 at the earliest.
>xitter screenshots from AIslop accounts
Wish jannies would do the job they're paid for once… oh wait
>>2894426>timmiesWhat's a timmy? I see this everywhere on 4chan.
>>2894434Dew it.
Plox dew it.
I beggy you dew it.
Make the orange king hubba bubba this thing.
>>2894441>What's a timmy?you, most likely
>>2894441White man. It comes from a WEBM of a TikTok of a black guy with the caption "if your boyfriend is white, you're single to me. What the fuck is Timmy going to do?" that's now hashbanned on 4chan because it would always cause a shitstorm.
>>2894434more like advertisement for xelon's starlink
>>2894455So it's just an even more obnoxious way of calling someone a yank or a gringo
>>2894455>>2894459Shit that's hilarious.
Idk how I never saw that.
>>2894449I'm Sinbad. Timmy is Yeonmi Park's whyte ex husband.
picrel
>>2894434>ground incursion in KuwaitIf you looked at a map, you'd see that Iraq's Basra governorate is between Kuwait and Khuzestan.
>>2894459At least here in Brazil "gringo" just means foreigner, it doesn't really have a racial connotation. Maybe in the Hispanic countries it's different.
>>2894466like anybody respects iraqs territorial integrity at this point. why would iraq want to stop them anyway
>>2894455>that's now hashbanned on 4chan because it would always cause a shitstorm.lmao
>>2894455if your boyfriend is white, you're single to me. What the fuck is Timmy going to do?
I just visited tiktok to see that, and saw the stitched videos, and damn, you can see /poltards-type/ chuds posting the most racist and insanest shit, triggered by that video, including an white guy posting an alleged FAFO video of a black american shot dead that prolly wasn't even the same original video content creator.
>>2894606What's there to be upset about? None of these people have girlfriends anyway
>>2892878Where else could haredim have their way of life besides Israel?
>>2894617The US? The poorest city is a Hasidic Enclave.
>>2894681That's what I was thinking of too. Leaf to leaf communication.
>4cuck
You have to go back
>>2895987If cnn is saying it it's safe to assume the opposite
>>2895987Lmao absolute cope
>>2895994It's at least worrying that the price of oil is stable.
>>2895999How do you mean?
>>2895987If that was true, Omani navy would've already been sunk.
>>2896062I'm looking forward to six months from now when everything is falling apart and cnn is reporting that everything is fine and the strait is open
>>2896063The left has been saying capitalism will end for 150 years. That America empire will collapse since Vietnam. That neoliberalism was dead after 2008. That Israel was about to collapse like Rhodesia. Please take out a piece of paper, write your prediction on it, and tape it to your refrigerator, and tell us how it works out in the future.
>>2896127>the leftStopped reading there you retard
>>2896179>Most crushing economic operation<Trump's final warning.It's not even like Chinese last warning where they will do jack. Trump will order something half assed, because he wants out, but can't because he doesn't want to look like a loser, then the boots on the ground will perform even under Trumps expectations and then he just moves to explain the failure away by moving into another "ultimate crippling strike" piece of rhetoric.
>>2896179so pathetic. at this point I can only laugh at him.
>>2894441>>2894455it's also a reference to how, for decades, 4channers and other racists would call every black guy jamal
>>2896179I can see Cucktin buckling but Chynah? I think they'd just use tariffs to make western piggy sweat
>>2893498we had an old washing machine that rusted really badly, like the front was essentially just held together by the frame. what im saying is if you see this much rust on the outside that means its already much worse on the inner structure, at some point you can literally just scrape it off with your bare hands and leave huge holes
>>2895695>HEEEEEEEEEELP! THIS BROWN PERSON ISN'T ACTING THE WAY HE IS SUPPOSED TO IN MY HEAD IT MUST ME A CONSPIRACY obsessed
>>2896179>the US will target China and Russia hahahahahaha NO. Russia is already about as sanctioned as possible right? And it's definitely not happening with china.
>>2896504not really,they could (if they REALLY wanted to,which isn't the case) cut off trade with Russia entirely,since the sanctions don't affect the entirety of Russia exports,but even then the only thing that would happen is that they would buy a suspiciously high amount of goods from like Serbia instead,that totally isn't being used as a proxy for Russian exports,because in the end the bourgeoisie is not a monolith and a lot of them don't give a fuck about the sanctions
>>2896662>erdogan grift reached western camptardsIt's over
how many lies can you detect in CNN's article, you cultured and sapioscentific Marxists?
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/18/business/iran-strait-of-hormuz-oilI am posting the full article to save you from the clicks cnn needs.
>The battle for control of the Strait of Hormuz has become the focal point of the Iran war. Over the past several months, both Iran and the United States have claimed the upper hand – and the competing rhetoric has caused considerable confusion and doubt.
>At the moment, however, the evidence is clear: The United States, patrolling the strait with its navy, is gaining ground – and Iran is losing much of its control of the critical waterway.
>More than 80% of liquids transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani route – a UN-authorized shipping channel that Iran vehemently opposes – or have been “dark” transits that likely took the Omani route, according to Kpler, which tracks ships using transponders and satellite data.
>Iran, declaring the strait under its control, has attacked dozens of ships that tried to travel the waterway via the north coast of Oman. Despite the risk, most ships have recently chosen to ignore Iran’s demands and cross the strait with the promise of protection from US naval forces.
>“It increasingly looks like Iran has at least partially lost control of the strait,” said Homayoun Falakshahi, head of crude oil analysis at Kpler.
>Shifting control>That stands in stark contrast to a month ago, when Kpler observed virtually no shipping traffic via the Omani route. The sharp reduction in traffic around Iran’s preferred route has prevented Iran from charging tolls on ship traffic through the strait – as it did in the spring.
>The expiration of the Memorandum of Understanding between the United States and Iran this week in theory allows Iran to begin charging tolls again. But it doesn’t appear the country has been able to, according to Kpler.
>“Iran’s request to collect tolls is something that most Middle East folks don’t want to do and haven’t been doing,” said Dan Pickering, founder and chief investment officer at Pickering Energy Partners. “So the Oman route absolutely makes the most sense.”
>Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates have chartered Very Large Crude oil Carriers (VLCCs) – the biggest oil tankers – to transit out of the Persian Gulf via the Strait of Hormuz, then transfering the oil to customers’ tankers outside the danger zone in the Gulf of Oman, according to Andy Lipow, president of Lipow Oil Associates.
>To evade Iran’s attacks, they’ve turned their transponders off, often for weeks on end. That so-called dark traffic appears to have eluded some data-tracking services like Kpler as well. Although some can be picked up on satellite, it’s harder to track via traditional means.
>But the United States, with significant military force on the water, has eyes on all ships passing through the strait and has reported significantly higher oil shipping numbers than most traditional estimates had previously suggested.
>Energy Secretary Chris Wright last week said that combined oil transits through the strait and rerouted around the waterway totaled around 15 million barrels per day over the course of a week – much closer to the 20-million-barrel average from before the war.
>Lack of clarity>That led President Donald Trump to declare Monday that the United States has “total control over the strait,” a questionable claim he has reiterated often throughout the conflict. Iran’s continued attacks and oil flows still well below pre-war levels suggest the United States does not fully control the Strait of Hormuz.
>But neither does Iran.
>“If their goal is to be ‘in charge,’ then I’d say they were never completely in control to start with,” said Pickering. “It feels like their goal is deterrence, in order to be validated as in-control. I think they are still deterring.”
>But if tankers are really getting as much oil through the strait as the United States claims, then Iran’s deterrence and control of the Strait of Hormuz is diminished compared to what it was a month or two ago.
>Complicating matters: Oman and Iran are engaging in talks to restore freedom of navigation through the strait – absent the United States – much to Trump’s dismay. It’s not clear how those discussions will affect oil traffic or control of the waterway.
>“I would take all the information and headlines ‘under advisement,’” said Lipow. “But it is fair to say that Iran has partially lost control of the strait.”if you post the main lie in this article, you win 1 Internet lpol special point.
>>2896847 (You) (me)
the us regime media is severely whitewashing trump's failure.
the strait is open will be their new mantra.
despite, you know, anyone can check satellites imagery, and see the oil and gas terminals empty.
>>2896847Even if the article's claims are true, Iran still has the option of attacking the oil at the source by destroying wells, refineries, and storage.
>>2896869thing is, none of what is claimed is true. I would like to have people to investigate a bit about each hard claim presented here.
it's interesting that google's gemini AI won't challenge the report, lmao.
ask gemini about US soldiers using human shields in Somalia it will explicitly deny it. Then ask it to recite civilian testimonies to which it will admit it lied and apologize.
>>2896847>More than 80% of liquids transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani route A clear tell that you're in for bullshit is when they make percentage based claims like this.
>>2896847>To evade Iran’s attacks, they’ve turned their transponders off, often for weeks on end. That so-called dark traffic appears to have eluded some data-tracking services like Kpler as well. Although some can be picked up on satellite, it’s harder to track via traditional means.Lol, lmao. Who could possibly believe this?
>>2896811"Unless watermelon seller does something" is implied after every single prediction I make. I just don't want to post it every single time.
>>2896914DING DING DING.
the cnn report:
>"More than 80% of vessel transits through the Strait of Hormuz over the past two weeks have taken the Omani route…"Problem is, all media are saying that barely 10 to 12 ships are crossing the strait, per day, over the last 10 days. from 120 ships.
the 80% figure applies to a shrunken pool of traffic. when total crossings have dropped by 70%, the fact that 80% of the remaining ships use a particular route does not mean the route is a success, it means overall traffic has collapsed.
besides, kpler data is depicting something completely different:
https://www.kpler.com/fr/blog/strait-of-hormuz-crossings-drop-70-as-tanker-traffic-shifts-almost-entirely-to-the-iranian-route#11) the Omani route is not a 'safer alternative.' kpler explicitly states that in practice, the Omani route "hasn't picked up the slack".
2) most ships still prefer the Iranian route. kpler's data shows that 90% of crossings use the Iranian route, not the Omani one.
It's like saying "80% of flights are now using Runway B!" in an airport, while the airport gas gone from 120 flights a day to 8.
and besides, they don't establish
80% from what. 80% of my farts? 80% of the brain worms eating RFK jr.'s brian?
Another lies:
>"UN-authorized" Omani routeno such a thing. No UN law has been approved ever about this. They are probably referring to a 1968 Traffic Separation Scheme, that doesn't have any legal basis for the us regime to argue that's the way to go.
>"the United States … has eyes on all ships passing through the strait…then immediately goes to
>"dark traffic appears to have eluded some data-tracking services like Kpler…"nonsense.
cnn's article conflates the number of ships with the amount of oil:
a handful of VLCCs can carry vastly more oil than several smaller vessels. conversely, a large number of ballast ships can carry essentially no cargo.
For example, Wrigt claimed approxmately 9million b/d through Homruz, and 15 million b/d in total regional flaws, but conveniently, cnn ignored kpler's data that put the estimates way lower: Kpler's estimate for Hormuz was only 1.74–6.98 million b/d. but they didn't use that data, because they want to portrait that Iran is losing control of the Strait.
>>2896895it's similar to when you ask the american-made ais about the us massacre in the Korean Peninsula.
they all go quickly in saying that the us didn't commit any massacre.
ah, but you ask them to include the UN reports, historian reports, specialists assessments all regarding the Juju Island, where evidence shows the US direction and direct involvement, all these AI awkwardly will reply "my bad, I forgot to include those
yes, the us committed a massacre".
>>2897722the fact that ghalibaf said that publicly i think signals that average people are feeling severe economic pain in Iran. and he fears that large scale protests could erupt again. if things weren't that bad, if he thought the economic pain is still tolerable, he would have held a united front with the supreme leader and the hard liners in Iran to avoid sending the message to the USA that the blockade is having any effect on them and not legitimize their hope that their blockade might somehow work.
this is not good
>>2897909He didn't say that it's fake you faggot shill. Iran isnt feeling any pain.
>>2897909You failed to consider that Iran's bureaucrats are Mossad, and the president is Mossad, and Khomeini is Mossad, and Iranian workers are Mossad, and you're Mossad and I'm Mossad
as this intellectual giant demonstrated
>>2898052 >>2898144All politics is a family of jews arguing over passover dinner
Morandi is a moron. If that's the best the ollahooakbaring retards have…
>>2898245Iran lost and cucked out yet again. What a surprise
>>2898241He is pretty based for flat out saying that they supported the war on terror and leftists still dickride him
>>2898245what did I say?
>>2896847>>2896935they are trying to portray that everything is hunky-dory.
Please, go check satellite imagery and see the terminals for yourself.
i am posting some terminals seen from copernicus browser.
you can visit osint sites that have better satellite imagery, with paid subscriptions, and such.
all oil and gas terminals.
see them? empty. they all should have even ships waiting nearby, at all times. these things don't rest 24/7. don't take a break. never.
>>2898424 (me)
fuck, not even when Venezuela was sieged by the US regime last year until Jan 3, the terminals were so empty.
>>2897722oh Masoud Pezeshkian and Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf blinked.
Let's see if their voiced concern is merely and purely a mental exercise or if it's a signal of capitulation, like Iranian hardliners are saying.
>>2898263>>2898245>>2898144It's an actual fake quote and the strait is closed. Keep concern shilling though.
NEW: Mehdi Rahimi, the head of Iranian Parliament’s news agency, tells Al-Mayadeen that Iran has received an invitation to join the Mecca Defense Pact
>@Middle_East_Spectator
>>2898526How tf would this work? Next time the US bombs Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey all start shooting at US assets in the region?
>>2898537If they do make a Middle Eastern NATO that includes those four countries then it could mean the end of the US empire in the region, or at least forcing it to shrink to just Jordan and Israel.
>>2898537Bourgeois internationalism in one region (it will work this time trust akhi)
>>2898526it works like a circus.
all clown no serious actors
all show no acts.
>>2898526>Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan invited Iran to join newly-established Mecca defense pact - report
>Iran has been invited to join the Mecca Agreement for Mutual Defense, the new security alliance established by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Pakistan earlier this month, Al Mayadeen reported on Saturday, citing a senior Iranian official.
<Mehdi Rahimi, head of the Iranian parliament's Khaneh Mellat news agency, told the channel that "Iran has received an invitation to join the Mecca Agreement, and the matter is under review."
<Rahimi added that countries in the region "are moving toward seeking a regional security umbrella," and claimed that this represented "a victory for Iran, because it has been calling for this for a long time."lmao the rumors are true. actually insane if this goes ahead.
https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-906316 >>2899029Wouldn't joining this mean Iran would turn on Yemen? Why would they do that?
>>2899092>The invitation has not yet been officially confirmed by Iran's Foreign Ministry or by any of the three countries that are parties to the agreement.I'm going to wait for a bit, because that's a defensive pact aimed squarely at Iran.
>>2899092Or it could mean the Saudis throw in the towel and let the Houthis have it.
>>2899249Now that would be a surprise.
>>2899251Prior to Epstein Fury that's more or less what had already happened.
>>2899254Yeah, but what fucking good is a defense pact with Saudis, if they can't fucking handle desert rock farmers?
>>2899262>uh… what if like you stopped being exploited by sissy and erDOGan and become exploited by bibi? Imagine le horror Sorry but how does that concern me as a prole?
>>2899301it is in every prole's class interest to oppose zionism.
>>2899306That's why I oppose my muslim ruling class :)
>>2899320the global ruling class is jewish/white thobeit
(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST) >>2892951>muh gambism wend from [truth nuke] to [strawman i just made up]yea yeah anyway bomb tel aviv
>>2892882>I'm not sure there can be a civil war where one side are pacifists. At some point the Israeli state will probably recognize that they're better off without the haredis. They're basically an entire sect of welfare queens.>>2893102>Sure but they're the only ones making babiesever play black and white 2? "DISCIPLE BREEDER" "DISCIPLE BREEDER" "DISCIPLE BREEDER"
>>2899366But I'm ruled by muslims on their behalf :)
How did US death toll go from 6 to 19 without any headlines? Not even shitlib islamists talked about this or maybe they're embarrassed of the number?
so… i am an actual iranian.
if anyone has any questions related to the current situation, i may be able to provide some answers.
>>2899379I thought you guys didn't have internet
>>2899379Sorry you're going to through so much shit. Doesn't mean much but if true, shit sucks.
>>2899382ehm…idk, how do you prove in a political site that doesn't use flag?
have a meme
>>2899383for six month yes, then after it cooled down it has been ok.
i think it has been 2 or 3 months since that.
still had domestic internet tho. using iranian apps and sites.
>>2899384hey it's okay actions of thousands from a nation should not paint the whole nation as such but does impact faith of millions sadly.
no hurt feelings.
>>2899385In what province you live? How is the state crackdown going? Are they rounding up hundreds and charging them with being Mossad?
>>2899379>>2899391id, timestamp. or else, attentionwhoring.
>>2899390>In what province you live?i live in karaj.
>How is the state crackdown going?here and then, they execute some political prisoners mostly from the recent protests.
>Are they rounding up hundreds and charging them with being Mossad?not really
>>2899391what else? send nudes?
due to a bug after internet shutdown my ip changes to azerbaijan for no reason.
>>2899396that's not an Id.
>>2899396I'm from the neighborhood stay safe bruh fr fr americunts and pisslamists will pay for shedding our blood
>>2899399i ain't gonna doxx myself
is this good? it's from another imageboard.
>>2899401are you saying iranian? what is with the over the top genz slang sarcasm?
>>2899396Are you marxoid or tourist? Og
>>2899405nope, kinda centrist, a bit nationalist.
>>2899407i guess tourist
>>2899408>touristGo back to /pol/ or stay here it's just /pol/ #2 down to the same schizo posters
>>2899402>i ain't gonna doxx myselfyou can literally take your passport/government id and blur the name, photo, and relevant data.
anything else, it's attentionwhoring. this (picrel) is an example from a Colombian Id. Grab yours, take a picture from your smartphome camera with a piece of paper with date, a "Hello /IRAN/ Thread" or "hello leftypol", open the photo in paint or whatever software you use; draw over it, in particular the parts that reveal your name, id number, and fingerprint or whatever, but left the piece of paper, and you'll be done with it.
If the photo also includes the laptop or pc station you are posting from with a screenshot of lpol with date and this thread, it's also better.
>>2899402>are you saying iranian?Worse, IraKKKI (genetically evil)
>over the top genz slang sarcasmThat's just how I talk on God
>>2899410idk bro i was using that 4cock since 2013
people there have stockholm syndrome.
a place filled with shit tons of bots and troll and constant head migraine and drama with nobody to have a single honest to God conversation.
i still don't understand how a shitty image board that has not been updated since 2013 with zero UI and retarded moderation team still is kicking today.
probably thanks to cia.
>>2899412well my phone camera is really shitty but here you.
>>2899413>Worse, IraKKKI we were once one country. until the british kingdom attacked.
>That's just how I talk on God bro spittin' facts yo, like dawg, these boomer's vocab be stuck in the stone age fr, can’t even vibe with their aura, We gotta jug maxxing our lingo xp grind so these fossil fuels can’t even sniff our secret cypher!
>>2899433We wuz a lot of things. Shit happens
Doe u should stop doxxing yourself for CIAcels no cap
>>2899437>Doe u should stop doxxing yourself for CIAcels no capi think irgc would be more concerning like tf cia gonna do?
even tho they exactly know what site at what time i visited,and i don't think they care.
>>2899439I use CIA and mukhabarat interchangeably
>>2899447
>getchan
I don't think our mods host that site
>>2899456
Epstein visited my mom's bagel shop once.
I guess I'm one of them now.
Pedo panic is really the new satanic panic. Just look for a way to contort reality in such a way that you can call your enemies satanists I mean pedophiles and voila you get a free smear campaign and optics win.
Note how this guy says "you are Epstein" for drawings, which ironically really trivializes the suffering of real child trafficking and abuse victims. This is no coincidence since he does not care about victims, the only point is to smear his enemies.
>>2899482
>>2899478
>>2899476
>REEEEE How dare you look and post at drawings
Bourgeois moralism at its finest.
>>2899396The IP is from an Iranian telecomunication provider
>>2899502yay, i use USB tethering so it always stays the same. also there's an isp bug that turns my ip to azerbaijan.
>>2899502you are not supposed to see IPs, but encrypted IPs. 👀
>>2899636Why? For wjat purpose?
Being only a relatively tight range of characters an IP uses would be (i assume, as a layman) relatively easy to decrypt anyway, no?
>>2899519Did the Iranian state execute Melika Azizi or not? I was trying to search this a little while ago but didn't get clear information.
>>2899433Based Iranian. Hope you guys stomp the U.S soon.
>>2899636IP hiding is only enabled for Jannies.
Mods and above need to see the IPs to put range bans when necessary.
>>2899433You should join the aerospace forces and huck missiles at Dubai.
>>2899669Do both jannies and mods get to read their unholy eulogy in my appeals? y bois just take it on the chin and ask for more
I made moderation here a humiliation ritual
>>2899678You can't humiliate other people by being a pathetic faggot
>>2899433unfortunately, that's not a timestamp. you need a written piece of paper, ahnd-written, clerly visible with the ID passport.
You are in an Imageboards, for almost 30 years now, the way to really make sure one poster is someone they claim they are, it's through that process.
>>2899687Jannies know everything about me down to literally my penis size as I have made a thread about it. They know who is the pathetic faggot between us (them)
>>2899652>Why? For wjat purpose?privacy. I love lpol because they really respect users privacy. something inherited since the breakup with infinite chan :D
Various expert white hack hackers and computer scientists have tested lpol over the years, and before lpol was lpol, when it was bunkerchan, and the privacy was always something to behold.
remember, this is a place where feds can browse, record, and track people. that's why it's appreciated.
You can tell Iran caved to the patented Shia cuckolding, because this thread is completely dead and they lost
They got Bessent on tv right now unironically doing a "you're either with us or on the side of the terrorists" bit at nations who aren't helping America with their war on Iran
>>2899708So we're at the point where we're just gonna wake up one day and hear the salt caverns have collapsed I presume. And people just let Trump do it.
>>2899695>privacy. I love lpol because they really respect users privacy. something inherited since the breakup with infinite chan :DI'm sorry but that's incredibly silly. You give your IP address to every server you touch on the internet.
>>2899700I stopped posting news here which probably makes it look a bit slower and be on the first page more. Not really anything to do with the conflict itself though, more because ultimately nobody is actually interested in the conflict and it's just another completely replaceable topic to bicker about.
>>2899713I didn't say that. I guess at some point some super users would have access to the IPs, but I thought that was reserved only for the B.O.
Not mods.
<Bessent on the secondary sanctions he is promising will come, but hopes he doesn't have to do it: "Why would I want to blow up the global financial system?"
BACO
>>2899708So what happens if it reaches a critical low point
>>2899768Either refineries stop working and no more fuel or uncle Sam bend over and buy fuckton of oil to Iran and/or Russia.
>>2899797Repeated usage of ultimatums is a sign of an abusive and toxic relationship. :^)
>>2899797sadly the world wont choose iran
>>2899841China isn't choosing the US. They were vocal recently about it. The MFA spokesperson, I think, said that US economic aggressions are not abided under international law.
So Iran will get thier oil and gas moving. Problem is, if Iran wants to sell oil, they will need to put larger discounts, more likely.
>>2899797>>2899770>>2899740Video for:
>Bessent on the secondary sanctions he is promising will come, but hopes he doesn't have to do it: "Why would I want to blow up the global financial system?"copessent is warning that they will destroy the global economy for the sakes of taking down Iran.
and with it, the dominance of the us dollar.
>>2899950Fine, fuck it. Everyone's an accelerationist these days, be it left, right and center. Might as well let the right be the ones who end up suicide ramming an embankment
>>2899816can you imagine? all these fucking years you were waiting for the us regime to go away with the massive bangs from a rain of nukes, and instead it will wane quietly, until it achieve total irrelevancy, only with the sound of technocrat's brains melting down like a popsicle under the sun:
>>2899950 >>2899952accelerationism was always inevitable given that capitalists would rather destroy the world than cede any ground to the left.
>>2899958You really believe our luck is that good?
>>2899964Honestly, I think it's more likely that the US just crashes and burns and people move onto China picking up the slack. I think the US empire is going to fall before global warming fully kicks in. Maybe even soon enough to pivot somewhat. Optimistic thinking, I know.
>>2900005If the drought continues through the winter and the rockies don't receive the minimum snowpack expevt shit to start unraveling as soon as next year.
>>2899952you don't know what accelerationism is
>>2899693uygha i don't need to prove you shit.
don't ask for my ID.
>>2899700regime hasn't changed,strait ain't open,uranium is not out iran.
that's not winning
>>2899656sadly she got executed
>>2899841who's this guy, world?
>>2899708Charts that doesn't start at 0 are always misleading
>>2900021>Apocalyptic perfect storm incoming trust me broI'll believe it when I see it. I've watched America survive impossible shit my entire life. I want it to be over but I'm not holding my breath
>>2900075empires come and go, happens to best of us, rome,mongolia,britain,persia,arab caliphate etc etc
decline is not sudden but it's overtime.
>>2899433are you a zionist pahlavist? secular? do you support the IR?
>>2900093none i am a normy, but i side with my country.
>pahlavihe is an uncharismatic hentai rapist that looks like gargamel. and he is a pawn.
>seculari am armenian christian.
>IRno, not at all,but i don't support the enemy neither.
>>2900191
I used to like Armenian but I unironically think they're völkerabfälle
>>2900106in your opinion are christians or other religious minorities discriminated in the IR?
>>2900191what!?
>>2900424>in your opinion are christians or other religious minorities discriminated in the IR? i personally didn't had a problem, they even recently made a Christian subway station for us.
>what!?i went school with (((them))), horrible people honestly.
>>2900441How does a Christian subway station differ from a Muslim one? Are different religions allowed to use each other's stations?
>>2900445it's Christian themed.
so they did that for a cultural appreciation.
>>2900491Very interesting. You said you support Iran over the US but you don't like the IR. What don't you like about it? What sort of government would you like to see instead?
>>2900493well, a secular one without being an islamic fanatic, have more freedom and don't be a warmongerer, and not be a kleptocrat, and less censorship so i can watch youtube easily.
>>2900496So you just want a normal liberal republic but not one that's a pawn of the US and Israel. Is this how most Iranians feel in your experience?
>>2900498i don't have a problem with iran being friendly to west, you know that's not gonna happen.
>Is this how most Iranians feel in your experience?i can't really speak for everyone of course but people are simple.
they look at their wallet, they it's empty, they get mad.
they look at their wallet, it's full, they're happy.
so i argue they would fuck with the government if it was cool but after the protest and those mass killings, the reputation went very down to tartarus
so if you see people yelling for help from other countries and kinda rooting for the prince.
it's because we don't have any other choices really.
there are not many opposition.
>>2900503yeah it's sad, kinda i got used to this type of news.
>>2900032>sadly she got executed:( Thanks for confirm.
>>2900106>ChadmenianBased.
>>2900506Has the war done much to improve public opinion of the government?
>>2900507<3>>2900508ehm no, but this war went really pathetic for sides.
and kinda everyone were mad at the government for trying make a deal with US (so as maga)
both IR haters were mad that this war was ending without trump "helping" the protesters
and IR supporters for not getting revenge on leaders' death and school children bombing
this war was a cluster fuck of a confusing mess even for the decision makers behind it.
>>2900506Apologies for earlier, I responded to a report for an earlier post and out of context it looked like some kind of /pol/ tourism, so I acted accordingly. You're good.
>>2900513it's okay dude.
i still don't like jews tho, i am not trying to be edgy just never had good memory of them and israel is our enemy.
>>2900511Has the Basij grown in power since the war? If so to what degree? Do you notice it more in your everyday life or is this more exclusively a phenomena of the border regions?
How disciplined are Basij and IRCJ forces internally? Is there ideological commitment or are their powers of repression used to for personal gain, extracting from the local population and so on?
>>2900496>>2900498Iran is already a liberal republic
>>2900513Did you just unban and apologize to someone who doubled down on hating da juice? Jannies forgot what we pay them for…
>>2900521well, the only person who could control hardliners is dead, so thanks to trump IRGC even has more power.
they put guards everywhere and it give an excuse to IR to control us even more.
also they brought some foreign military which unlike normal force, they won't give a single atom of fuck that they might kill iranian people.
borderline not sure much, i think they put more forces if a ground attack happened.
but seriously i can't answer all correctly cause i am not part of the irgc.
>>2900525How was your mandatory service like?
>>2900524>Iran is already a liberal republic wow you have the first hand experience unlike me.
>who doubled down on hating da juiceisrael still is one of the most hated countries in this planet.
and jews are unfavourable especially after dragging US to this war.
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if you're not sarcastic then you got real problems.
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>>2900527i am still a university student.
time hasn't come yet
>>2900528where is the arak soviet? is it safe? is it alright?
>>2900525Thanks for answering my question, anon!
>wow you have the first hand experience unlike me.
Well I don't live in burgerstan either and I can tell what social system it operates on.
There is nothing fanatical about Iran, Khomeini was one of the most opportunistic and pragmatic figures of the 20th century. By the 90s Iran had a more open economy than under the Shah and the privatization initiatives only increased since then. The country was armed by the US and Israel in its first conflict after the so called "revolution" with secret oil deals going well into the 90s, it collaborated with the US against two neighboring Muslim countries during the war on terror, offered normalization with Israel in 2003, offered an olive branch to US investors a year ago, etc.
The country became ostensibly islamist to appease the reactionary petty bourgeoisie and landlords who feared social change, the economic liberalism gave rise to a cosmopolitan generation who pressured the regime into rolling back many of its religious laws. I know your bourgeoisie uses the islamic stick to beat you with but that alone doesn't make them 7th century cavemen waiting for the Mahdi, don't underestimate how cunning your class enemies are, and don't mistake their political representation with who they actually are/the values they hold.
>time hasn't come yet
I hope it never comes and for you to never shed blood for them
>>2900524>Did you just unban and apologize to someone who doubled down on hating da juice? Jannies forgot what we pay them for…jannies not working for mossad for once and letting organic discussion play out? i'm shocked.
>>2900546<3>>2900550from day one it mass executed people, tortured people, they raped women in prisons in order that virgins will go to heaven, they throw students from the roof yelling ya Zahra
and alot of horrible shit since then
also the government is not exactly an islamic government, it's a theocratic fascist government that is also a kleptocratic leech, uses religion to brainwash its fan and kill the criticism while they're selling and capitalizing on everything they can , most of the inflations here are fake to just empty our wallets.
just because X bad doesn't make Y good.
you don't live here, you don't have the experience don't tell me how i should feel about it.
>I hope it never comes and for you to never shed blood for themthanks but i still would kill for my country if i have to.
>>2900557is that suppose to be funny as you being a subhuman demonic pig or you want to make a point?
>>2900524It's certainly bourgeois but idk if I would call it liberal.
>>2900568look if a commie wants to like show heart to the government, should remember that
US plan was to help khomeini and islamic government to get rid off the communist power here.
of course master kho used the "khot'eh" card and lied to them but again.
He ordered to kill every single communist or anyone who read the manifesto once.
>>2900572I'm well aware of the anti-communist history of the Islamic Republic. I still think they're better for Iran (and the chances of Iran becoming socialist) in the long term when compared to whatever ghouls the US and Israel would install.
>>2900567>they raped women in prisons in order that virgins will go to heavenNo, actually they raped them for the same reason SAVAK did (who were spared and repurposed by islamists), terror.
>it's a theocratic fascist government that is also a kleptocratic leechBuzzwords to avoid sullying the good name of liberal democracy.
I'm telling you what it actually is, I don't care what you personally feel or think about it. I can only hope Iranian workers organize themselves and are able to see through the deception of the false dichotomy presented to them by the bourgeoisie between the shahites and islamists who are essentially two pair of boots used to crush them.
>is that suppose to be funny as you being a subhuman demonic pig or you want to make a point?Now repeat that without being incomprehensibly mad.
>>2900572>>2900574Average conversation between a third worlder and a third worldist
>>2900567>ya Zahrawhat does this mean?
>>2900582Shiite war cry like allahu akbar
>>2900574anything at this point is better than the current government.
>when compared to whatever ghouls the US and Israel would install.i might be jaded and hate them but hey if they threat the people right it wouldn't be my biggest problem
>>2900577> SAVAK did (who were spared and repurposed by islamists)whataboutism
>Buzzwords to avoid sullying the good name of liberal democracy.no buzzwords
it's cruel government that drinks blood for living.
>I'm telling you what it actually isit's your perception/view of it.
don't talk like a redditor.
>between the shahites and islamists who are essentially two pair of boots used to crush them.so you just rubbing your hands wishing that it become some sort of semi-commie government.
>Now repeat that without being incomprehensibly mad.i ain't mad, i am actually very monotone.
>repeatare you sub-human demonic pig? or you have an actual point rn?
>>2900580>Average conversation between a third worlder and a third worldistokay europoor. what that fucking means?
>>2900582o Zahrah, a female religious figure for shia islamist. daughter of muhammed if i am not wrong.
>>2900589>whataboutismI accept your concession.
>so you just rubbing your hands wishing that it become some sort of semi-commie government.More so wishing it collapses under the weight of its own contradictions and for Iranian workers to take over and spread the revolution to the region and the world. Not sure if you're aware but Iranian communists have party chapters in other countries, Iranian workers are some of the most organized, and have literate communists, unlike most elsewhere. If an international revolution is possible tomorrow, it would be through Iran.
>are you sub-human demonic pig? or you have an actual point rn?I'm not entirely sure what your malding mean but to reiterate, the audio is bone chilling for me despite western leftists (pseudo islamists) laughing about it.
>okay europoor. what that fucking means?I'm not european and it's the contrast between phual sapport western leftists and people actually living in those places.
>if i am not wrongPeak Iranian islamic education
>it's your perception/view of it.
don't talk like a redditor.
We materialists, we don't believe in subjective truth, which is reddit btw.
>>2900596>I accept your concessionirgc killed more than savak. way more
>Not sure if you're aware but Iranian communists have party chapters in other countries,i know and they are very unpopular.
i don't think people here on into left leaning ideologies
the two big oppositions.
reuplic iran and monarchist iran.
>If an international revolution is possible tomorrow, it would be through Iran.they would easily wipe out another tousands of people again.
>I'm not entirely sure what your malding mean but to reiteratelook at the attachment name.
but yes if i want to send protest videos, it would be 1 hour of epic gorefest snuff movie.
>Peak Iranian islamic educationi am christian
>We materialists, we don't believe in subjective truth, which is reddit btw."i am right you wrong","i understand your goverment better than you"
is not a homest discussion other than one sided biased speech. which always turn into insult and dick measuring contest (which in win tho just saying)
that's redditor behavior.
>>2900589>if they threat the people right I promise you they won't.
>>2900601>i am christianWait you're the Armenian? That's just cringe, I thought I was talking to a Persian. How is Urmia?
>>2900604God knows
>>2900611armenians are persianetes.
>urmiai live in karaj tf do i know
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can i post ponies or is that cringe too?
>>2900613Sorry my parents warned me from talking to völkerabfälle
>>2900613Do you have a signal account btw
>>2900620you're my favorite subhuman.
>>2900622no i don't.
i usually won't use any other social apps, other than telegram.
if you have that you can talk to me: @armin21e
>>2900626>subhumanMOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>telehramopsec is a foreign concept to you innit
>unironic prony
How do we get the lamest Iranian out of 90 million people?
>>2900630All the good Iranians are busy fighting Zionism
>>2900629i thought you're making a cow noise.
but worse you're a snitch
>opsec is a foreign telegram is a secure app and if you come there moan i can just simply block you.
>>2900630well you could get a racist monarchist that smells like a zionist cumbucket.
or a pro irgc fan who calls communist to go to hell
also pony me likey
>>2900636>impyling centrists aren't the worstGo to sleep yuhana bin qedesh
>>2900638well to a lefty everyone are nazi.
well a centrist normie wouldn't cut your head for simply disagreeing with him/her
>>2900639Okay Hayk
Since Hayk is originally from Babylon doesn't that make you Iraqi?
Can you faggots go and make a thread about it if you just want to bicker?
>>2900640don't you think you're trying so hard?
iraqis are persians as well. were our brothers until anglo nation attacked
>>2900641We are reenacting the pooran-shitraq war. Seethe about it timmy.
>>2900642>iraqis are persians as wellKhamenei kill this schizoid and my life is yours!
>>2900641your iran related thread now has an inside man that can give a more factual opinion on the subject. instead of being a clueless westoid guessing game
>>2900644i ain't starting shit with you.
it's night i ain't in a mood for a convo loving attention seeking brat
if you don't have a serious conversation to give please leave me alone.
>khameneitoo soon (or maybe too late)
>>2900645Serious question, what's the anthropological explanation for christian minorities in west asia being the biggest shabbat goys? In Iran Khamenei used to take photo ops with them, same with Saddam in Iraq, Saddam in fact employed them in his palace and trusted them more than Muslims, and they all still miss chuddam.
Why are christcucks conformist unlike kurd bvlls?
>>2900645>instead of being a clueless westoid guessing game Right, yes, so let's just revert to endless reems of bickering then, because will surely keep him or anybody else around.
Have the bare minimum of respect for yourself and your fellow users you massive faggot, don't shit where you eat.
>>2900647what's the evidence for your claims?
kurds don't like anyone.
idk it's like an iraq related shit than iran.
no body is worse than an evangelical tho.
>>2900649if i get jabbed at I'll answer it.
also don't mod users around.
and don't call me a fag by sounding like an angry femboy.
>>2900650Iranian Christians are subservient to the theocracy, fought in the holy defense and welcomed Khamenei to their churches and houses. The biggest Iraqi nationalists are christians and it seems the same for Iran.
>>2900652well i don't have an opinion on it, but i guess you provide an enough warm place for a christian they will like you.
bashar, saddam, and kh were tolerance toward christians.
that's my guess.
>>2900654Aight imma go now gn habibi
>>2900662take care and stay safe.
nighty night nights.
Against the False Symmetry of the Scissors: An Open Letter While Iran Resists an Illegal War of Aggression
https://mronline.org/2026/08/24/against-the-false-symmetry-of-the-scissors-an-open-letter-while-iran-resists-an-illegal-war-of-aggression/Vijay Prashad against the open letter.
>>2900441>i went school with (((them))), horrible people honestly.why do (((they))) still live in iran?
>>2900106>opposition guy from a third world country<shares all the common traits of all other gusanos, such as trying to map their hated leader with a Disney characterThis is so fucking funny that CIA works by the same book in every corner of the world
>>2900749Iran's government doesn't discriminate against minorities. Being a Jew in Iran is better than being black in the US. Don't believe Zionist propaganda.
>>2900751Pahlavi isn't a leader lol what are you talking about? And he said he supports the regime over Pahlavi so he's hardly a gusano.
>>2900506are you from tehran/karaj?
>>2900752Sorry if I missed the chain of discussion, just wanted to point out that all those Winnie the Pooh, Gargamel, etc memes are obnoxiously obvious gusano tactic, they all work by the same book with no originality. This Iranian guy must have picked it up from local opposition memelords
>>2900712A tale as old as time, they claim impartiality and neutrality, but reserve all their attention to criticizing Iran while only writing one sentence criticizing USA and Israel. Woah, letter must have truly been written by anti-imperialists!
>>2900754Dumb, naive question, why would local Iranian opposition compare Pahlavi to a cartoon villain whose main attribute is being inept and incompetent? Are they more MEK aligned? I can’t imagine so when they completely discredited themselves by siding with Saddam (in addition to being a weird sex
cult based primarily in Albania)
>>2900752So why don't they give lauage rights to minorities?
>>2900589>anything at this point is better than the current government.they always say this and then it turns out, no it wasnt. Coming from a bourgeoise liberal "democracy", you dont want to have it.
>>2900712>>2900763Crazy to think pseudolibs show more international solidarity with Iranian workers than leftists (libs)
>>2900764MEK might not be operating directly. but through cut outs. there was a attack on a police station. the people who did it were paid and recruited, but they had no idea who they were doing it for because there were multipe intermediaries.
it can also the same with memes. i remember the very first time seeing /pol/ shit coming into online spaces without ever hearing of /pol/. or the porky meme that ended up spreading and people who recohnise it don't even know about leftypol
You don't support the MEK because they're socialist
I don't support the MEK because they're islamist
We are not the same
>>2900069Agreed. But I don't see a reason for the chart to start in the year 0.
>>2900798Crazy how people claiming to be leftists are more concerned with Iran's incarceration system than with USA and Israel murdering thousands of people with no repercussions, furthermore, they laser focus on Iran's incarceration system, as if those pseudolibs are a propaganda arm of the US and Israel
>>2898440>>2897722See? that's why Pezeshkian and Ghalibaf should STFU.
We all know that the rhetorical essays are true, but that's political ammo that could and will be used against you.
Ignoramus two morons.
>>2900712Two of the authors of the letter (or just signers?) retracted their support, btw. Probably a third didn't even know what the letter had.
>>2900032>uygha i don't need to prove you shit.>don't ask for my ID.then fuck off, you attentionwhore.
>>2899502there's no easy way for you to prove it's not a VPN or a VPS, unless you have accessed advanced detection tools, and for VPS, have gathered some advanced intelligence documentation of the user.
1-2 pics: Multiple VPNs that offer IP
3-4 pics: Multiple VPS that offer a dedicated computer located in Iran, which will give you an Iranian ISP IPs
The only way one person can prove is the one they claim they are on an IB, is through timestamp.
And even so, now with AI tools 🤌🤌🤌
One needs to take like 3 or more photos with different angles and different documents in this time and age. ugh.
>>2900953Most of us are not schizos who operate under the assumption everyone is lying.
>>2901007have you seen the evidence of cia, mossad and fbi people editing wikipedia?
epstein's associated, daughter of a mossad agent, was a top reddit user, with thousands of articles, and replies posted?
It's not being a schizo to ask for a bare minimum of support.
after all, I could be a dog posting on the internet.
>>2901033Ayatollah, known Iraqi president, head and chief of state of Iraq 😭😭😭
>>2901041Sistani might as well be president of Iraq tbh
>>2901060Please dont put it in the newspaper that we fucked up
>>2901061not when Saddam was in charge, most likely he was not.
>>2901061sissy-tani is has been brain dead for two decades. His last actions was telling Iraqi Shias to welcome American librators.
>>2900749because iran is not exactly a nazi germany (yet)
>>2900751what a bullshit conclusion
>>2900753karadj
>>2900754i don't that retard becuase all his motto is "go die for me so i become your king"
that's all he does
also not to mention how much cock he sucks, as far as marrying his daughter to a israeli official for lobbying.
also therr are photos of him wearing a jewish hat praying on a Israeli temple.
>>2900763americans are bunch of demonic pigs that only rape children and women to live.
half are fags other half are retarded like a bunch simpson and griffons walking and jumping around
is that good for you?
>>2900764>you compared a random guy to a disney charactergargamel is not a disney character you dumb fucks
>that must be CIAreally uygha?
>>2900942it's opposite of being an attention whore
>>2901030"to win against thy enemy, thy shall post ai goyslop photos of thyself VVininng"
-don tsu
>>2901081>posting a meme about a CIAMan, you are off your rocker. Jesus… Anyways, I'm posting from Nicaragua, my guy, so feel free to check me out. I have no stake in this. You are paranoid.
>>2901087I said already this:
>>2901018I'm not a mod. I base my judgement on evidence of past events.
>>2901081Anon this is an anonymous imageboard.
Aren't you the one asking for somebody to post their ID? That's what glows here.
>>2901106no the id that identifies him, no you I'm not. just one that confirms his Iranian-ship.
>>2901085is it true many iranians are converting to chr*stianity? i thought it was just some bs claim like the type evangelicals always make but this past month i've seen like 4 iranians converts on the internet which i find bizarre and now idk what to believe
>>2901216yeah i heard that too
like clickbait titles with "iran is the most Christian growing country" and other bullshit.
it's fake, there are no way of collecting info on it, especially when converting is illegal has to be done secretly.
i see people who secretly convert trough our churches but it is no that high to be counted like the whole country is becoming christian.
>>2901233Zoroastrianism is giga, and more sane that most abrahamic religions.
>>2901216also why did you censored Christianity?
are you one of those jewish faggots who wrote God like g-d?
>evangelicals there is nothing that i hate more than those bactrian viruses.
sometimes i wanna bomb evangelicals and rapture em back to their God.
one of the biggest jewish cock suckers on this planet. everything about them is about Israel.
fakest healers and most scams and multimillionaires come from televangelists.
>>2901234how many do you know omg
>>2901240personally? none
i think i saw 3 or 4 people getting baptized there.
>>2901249Do you live in remote inbred community or are you an urban cosmopolitan prole mixed with Persians and other Iranis? Because that effects how your answers should be perceived.
>>2901259>>2901258if a one iranian dogs takes a shit, worths more than life of trillions of americans.
i can too say shit like that, doesn't take much of a talent.
>>2901259>inbred communityall iranians are iranians, we don't have that retarded superior race feels to us that americans have.
there are some ethnicity jokes here and then but overall we don't call someone inbred.
>Because that effects how your answers should be perceivedwhat a pathetic way of seeing life.
>>2901264But your sentiment is correct, the sentiment expressed by the graffiti is dogshit and goes against le resistance larp
>>2901264>we don't have that retarded superior race feels to us that americans have.- Not ameridog 2. Nice drivel but my question serves a practical purpose if it's lost on you. I'm genuinely asking if you live in a mixed urbanite area or isolated community, the experience of the two differs significantly.
>>2901268the graffiti is dogshit, and one random quote on a fucking wall doesn't mean anything.
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i live in a city, with apartment style of living.
most people you would know are your neighbors in the same block.
there is no community nor mixed urbanite or whatever.
>>2901271It wouldn't if the axis actions during the war didn't reflect that, which it did.
>i live in a city, with apartmentYou're urbanite.
How are Iranian women doing? Are they free to wear whatever in metropolitan areas now? Are hijab laws still enforced in some places? What's context behind those reels with Iranian women wearing crop tops and shit?
>>2901276or might be written by an american or a traitor.
did iraqis forgot what US has done to them?
>Are they free to wear whatever in metropolitan areas now? well after, mahsa amini, no one takes hijab seriously anymore.
not saying they wouldn't have to wear, but you will see more women walking freely in the street while no one caring.
>What's context behind those reels with Iranian women wearing crop tops and shit?don't know what you're referring.
>>2901280also i have to add that there are less morality police or whatever on the street.
>>2901280>a traitorYes, an islamist, exactly what I said.
>well after, mahsa amini, no one takes hijab seriously anymore.This matches what I heard from Iranian friends.
>>2901271night in das woodz
>>2901233I thought Zoroastrians didn't accept converts which is why there's only like 100 of them.
>>2901519the parsees in india do not accept converts but other sects might have different rules.
lmao.
this definitively won't back fire.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/us-aims-to-revive-civil-war-era-court-to-claim-iran-oil-as-prizeNote: they want to include 'neutral' vessels that 'support their enemies' in this category.
>>2901133I'll proceed to ignore you.
To the other anons ITT, I will be watching you being conned, don't come cry when the conning falls apart.
>>2901259he already said he lived in karaj which is a wealthy secular suburb city of tehran
>>2901282>also i have to add that there are less morality police or whatever on the street.Didn't that change with the war? I figured the balance of power tipping a different way would have some civilian repercussions.
>>2901519>>2901519appearently they are more racially biased than being for religion reason
i don't blame them, they are rare persians who aren't mixed.
>>2901555why do you think i give a single atom of fuck about your blessing?
everyone here can die from aids and i can't give two of a less fuck.
>>2901594i think government wants to avoid unnecessary dramas.
people are economically under pressure and shit can hit a fan if you pressure em even more
>>2901555>To the other anons ITT, I will be watching you being conned, don't come cry when the conning falls apart.Anon just how autistic are you? Conned of what? For what? This is an anonymous imageboard, an anon could be from antarctica for all the difference it makes. The only person being played would be the one wasting their time with such a useless task.
>>2901605i have been here before, about when last 4cock's 1st april joke then, soyjack hacking them.
i might have made maybe two threads in total.
the only reason i care about this thread is because it's about iran, as an iranian that intrests me, and i was wondering what leftypol thinks about this war. also i can bring more insight.
that's it.
>>2901609How do I wow a Tehrani girl I'm texting?
I'm basically half Iranian btw
>>2901797i am a guy with a record of three times broking up with women.
you don't wanna ask me.
but i give you an advice, never date an armenian girl. look what happened to kanye.
>>2901849He is going to lose an inshallah his supporters chimp out and the israelis finally start shooting at eachother.
>>2901609>i was wondering what leftypol thinks about this war.It is a horrifying, hilarious, stupid, and probably historically progressive event caused by a man who ignored all warning signs that were made decades ago, and as designated driver chose to swerve the bus (America) into the abyss.
>>2901889longest most confusingly patheic two weeks war ever.
it is kinda funny both left leaner and nazi image board i went, peeps there were pro iran.
at first i was happy that US killed kh but that was the only part they did right nothing after it went anywhere.
>>2902084His cabinet is too insane and greedy to ever consider the thought
>>2902084I want to visit Iran but I don't want to be associated with the Iraqi subhumans that do and I don't speak Farsi
wtf do I do
>>2902098it's like if bunch of drunk and crack addicts are ruling this planet.
>>2902101i suggest don't visit iran till shit is calmer.
also this government takes people as hostages so yeah it is not logical to come here.
probably if the regime changed and economy was healing, you van come here live like a king and fuck some bitches, and die from aids.
also what's with the iraqi slander?
>>2902122>i suggest don't visit iran till shit is calmer.Obviously
>also this government takes people as hostagesWhy would greatest ally ™️ take me as hostage? No one is paying a penny for me
>fuck some bitches, and die from aids.I don't pay for sex
>what's with the iraqi slanderWe don't send the best people, actually we send the most subhuman bottom of society people.
I'm thinking of exclusively speaking English and larping as Georgoian or something. Will that get me around there?
>>2902123>We don't send the best people, actually we send the most subhuman bottom of society people.do you mean mercenaries or?
other type of iraqi we get here are زائر, for religious places.
>I don't pay for sexyou should ♤
>I'm thinking of exclusively speaking English and larping as Georgoian or something. Will that get me around there?people here don't hate iraqis here. iran iraq war was two generation ago, idk why would you think that.
like rn, am i racist to you?
>>2902130I used to work in the tourism industry, I know the kind of Iraqis that go Iran and 90% of them are subhumans.
>زائرCase in point
>people here don't hate iraqis hereSo we send mercenaries, sexpests, religifreaks, entitled tourists, failed students, investors, yet we have a favorable reputation? There is like an annual anti-Iraqi riot in Iran, and I don't blame them though I wish they knew not all of us are like this.
>>2902139>So we send mercenaries, sexpests, religifreaks, entitled tourists, failed students, investorssame shit that iran did/does in Lebanon iraq Syria yemen etc
>yet we have a favorable reputation?i wouldn't say you guys are loved but not overly hated either
everyone can distinguish the difference between a mercenary and an iraqi person
and mostly governments faults to use
iranian women as sex slaves for arab investors and tourists. and wasting out money builing apartments in lebanon when we need it ourselves.
so peeps hate the government more.
so don't guilt trip over it much.
>>2902158>same shit that iran did/does in Lebanon iraq Syria yemen etcYes and our mentally retarded population hates ALL Iranians for it. You're proving my point.
>and mostly governments faults to use iranian women as sex slaves for arab investors and tourists
I threw up a little bit in my mouth. But fr why are islamocucks like this? Showing hair le bad but mutah le good, it's the same in my shithole Karbala and Najaf turned into sex tourism destinations. The same people who do honor killings are ok with allah-approved prostitution/sex trafficking.
Then some retarded westoid foams at the mouth defending our rapists.
>>2902164>Yes and our mentally retarded population hates ALL Iranians for it. You're proving my pointwell there is still Giga arab and disgusting Ajam/majoos shit that will never change.
other than that most hate altough not fair makes sense.
>I threw up a little bit in my mouththat was the exact feeling i experience when i learnt what my government has done in syria.
i was depressed for whole 3 months or so. i rather my government kill it's own people instead of others at least i can cope with it easier.
the only time i ever used reddit was to go to syrian sub-reddit and write an apology. the peeps mostly took it well and saying they don't hate peeps but the government and they will kill you too (which came true many times)
well at least that means i have a bit of humanity inside me unlike most people u see in online space that would just simply justify their government actions or talk about it proudly. (britain USA israel)
>But fr why are islamocucks like this? Showing hair le bad but mutah le good, it's the same in my shithole Karbala and Najaf turned into sex tourism destinationsno one likes hypocrisy and islam is full of it.
but we are talking about kleptokrats, they see everything as a money milking machine, so expect them to have zero human empathy over their own people or others
>Then some retarded westoid foams at the mouth defending our rapists liberals… iran use to thrown fags out of the roofs, "iran is pro trans" while forcrfully sex transits homosexuals, feminism loves islam while women mostly don't have rights here. talking about human right while iran is a litteral theovratic fascist government.
those guys are retarded so don't expect too much.
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sometimes a simple apology is good enough tho or at least realizing it, we're not mongols tht our "heroes" are monsters like chengis khan
>>2901894You're EXTREMELY naive to think anything good comes from USA, especially under Trump.
>>2902175In Iraq we have a controlled opposition made up of Sunni Islamists, pseudo Ba'athists, Barazani tards, liberals, middle class nationalists, and they all go like "ITS DAAAA MAJOOOOOOOS" 24/7 like literally not even stop a second to consider that our whole country runs on US approval and they handed power to islamists. Of course this is by design to obscure class struggle behind demagoguery and maintain the regime. I like to trigger them by expressing support for majoos chads despite disliking the government.
Shiites Islamists aren't any better since they're the fueling this.
>kleptokratsA more accurate scientific term is simply "bourgeoisie". They're the same everywhere irrespective of their different masks. And you should feel zero obligation to apologize for their actions, I have more in common with an Iranian worker than I do with all the Iraqi mercenaries and bureaucrats who I'm their #1 enemy. I consider the proletariat struggle everywhere as mine, if I apologize to them I'd be apologizing to myself.
>liberalsWestern liberals just want brown prole genocide
Western leftists want the same thing but with extra orientalism and white savior complex so they lump us in with our rulers who they pretend represent our interests and we are mossad for disagreeing
>>2902190>MAJOOOOOOOSQRD? who are those guys?
>>2902216A slur for shiites in general and Persians in particular, invoking paganism and fire worship.
>>2902190>"ITS DAAAA MAJOOOOOOOS"it's a form of populism, which of course everyone needs a common enemy.
just like hitler bitching about da jooz, serbs bitching about bosnians etc
>"bourgeoisie"i don't think so, klepto is worse for a country due to the fact that worse form of capitalism and worse form autotrian right next to genghis khanism.
>>2902216ajam means someone who can't speak arabic, majoos comes from the word magi (also word magic comes from it) old persian priests.
>>2902243I've heard from shahites that the eternal IraKKKi actually runs the theocracy and is behind the revolution
>>2902345do you mean monarchists? or shias?
behind which revolution?
i don't think i heard something like that.
>>2902360monarchists claiming islam is Iraqi imperialism
Islamic revolution is run by Iraqi clique
>>2902364well it's definitely bullshit, the first IR khomeini did was to talk shit against saddam and at the end we ended up in a 8 years of war. especially when the iraq was pan-arabist/ba'thist.
>>2902365The Iran-Iraq war was aktualy an Iraqi civil war according to monarchists
>>2902367i mean realistically, you guys aren't arab but arab speaking. baghdad use to be persia's capital known as babylon.
iraqis and iranis are racially closer to each other than they want to admit.
btw ever heard of greater iran? it's like greater israel but domestic version.
the ones you are mentioning are also nationalist delusion enjoyers so it is not weird for them say shit like this.
>>2902381we can still become one, under my rule :D
also i realized you are am highly cynical, angry, anti-religious, morally sensitive toward certain forms of injustice, but strongly prejudiced and prone to collective stereotyping.
>>2902392nothing is happening.
an airplane was flying very low near there.
>>2902388>mapIraqi nationalists are so cucked that greater Iraq only includes the Arab parts of Iran, coping is another thing Iranians are superior than Iraqis in :/
>we can still become oneWe WILL become one under a dotp alongside every other shithole in the region.
>morally sensitiveMy disapproval of "injustice" is utilitarian and guided by theory, not essentialist dogma.
>strongly prejudiced and prone to collective stereotypingAgainst whom?
btw I HIGHLY recommend reading internationalist voice, it's a paper run by Iranian leftcoms and there is truth nukes per capita in it then anywhere else, at least as it pertains to the region.
https://www.internationalistvoice.org/ >>2902402>Iraqi nationalists are so cucked that greater Iraq only includes the Arab parts of Iranbecause those are the place that iran has oil in them.
>coping is another thing Iranians are superior than Iraqis inyou mean against the guys who still think saddam was a great leader and they ultimately won the war?
more or so iranians are blinded by their past. the only thing left for us to be proud of.
>Against whom?both iraqis and iranians.
>btw I HIGHLY recommend reading internationalist voice, it's a paper run by Iranian leftcoms and there is truth nukes per capita in it then anywhere else, at least as it pertains to the region. i give it a shot.
>>2902410>because those are the place that iran has oil in them."National" interests developing in parallel to bourgeois interests? Where have I heard that before…
>Saddam wonBut Saddam did win and so did Khamenei, and the US and the USSR and gulf states and Israel. Only Iraqi and Iranian workers lost.
>we wuzzingIt's the same here. The latest cope is we aren't Arabs saar we are babylonianz
>both iraqis and iranians.It's banter though I do have genuine hatred towards national identities so it's also an expression of that.
>>2902414>But Saddam did win and so did Khameneineither won.
"Iran and Kufa shall start a war. The poor Kurds are made homeless. Neither did they take the land of Iran, nor did Iran take theirs.
The profit of that war went to the Russ and the Rumats, while its devastation was borne by the mothers of the martyrs."
-ill beigi jaff, kurdish seer and poet.
>The latest cope is we aren't Arabs saar we are babylonianzwell you aren't arabs, iran would have had arabic as a language if it never fought back to save its language.
so would that make us arabs?
>>2902418>neither wonThey both did. I'm sure you're aware of how unstable the theocracy was before the Iraqi invasion. Iranians correctly point out that the war served as a lifeline for islamists to entrench their unstable regime, declare martial law, cry defense of the homeland and eliminate the opposition.
Similarly to how small and unknown Saddam was and how militarily weak Iraq was before the war.
We paid the price, they won the prize. Iraq and Iran only "lost" if you're blind to the existing class relations in the country that are contradictory in nature. Cool poem though.
>well you aren't arabsI used to larp too but grew up and knew it served no purpose but silly chauvinism that supports the current order.
>so would that make us arabs?Yes, you're eastern Iraq. Literally, look up Ajam Iraq.
>>2902430>how unstable the theocracy was before the Iraqi invasionit wasn't tht unstable, it just days after revolution suceeded.
Khomeini already had enough people to follow him.
>militarily weak Iraq was before the wari wouldn't say it was weak.
only "lost" if you're blind to the existing class relations in the country that are contradictory in nature.
it was war that went longer than both world wars combined many lost their lives and both countries suffered afterward.
fuck USA tho don't forget who was behind it.
>Cool poem though.it is a prophecy. a lot of things he said is becoming true.
>I used to larp tooagain it is not a larp
>Yes, you're eastern Iraq. Literally, look up Ajam Iraq.iraq was part of iran before russia and britbongs split it away.
eastern arak is a city in iran.
>>2902437>>2902437>it wasn't tht unstable, it just days after revolution suceeded.Read Ervand Abrahamian.
>i wouldn't say it was weakIt started as a literally who nation that averaged a coup every decade and ended as the 5th largest army globally and one of the most experienced (didn't translate to strength as the gulf war showed) and the undisputed champion of the Arabs with its undisputed strongman hero retard.
>it was war that went longer than both world wars combined many lost their lives and both countries suffered afterward.All things that benefitted the ruling class. Excess labor was liquidated and with it domestic threats.
Don't you find it especially ironic that Arab Iranians and Shia Iraqis put their identities aside for le nation only to be betrayed immediately afterwards. That's a microcosm of the betrayal suffered by the whole proletariat, and it is a universal phenomenon in all capitalist wars, in no way particularly significance. That's why we repeat: No war but class war.
>fuck USA tho don't forget who was behind it.Tariq Aziz, Assyrian Christian and Saddam's right hand, admitted in his prison memories that both the USSR and the US were profiting from the war and maintained the balance of powers accordingly.
>it is a prophecy. a lot of things he said is becoming true.Take meds. Who is he? Can't find anything in english about him.
>iraq was part of iran before russia and britbongs split it away.Take meds, Iraq al-Ajam resident.
>>2902430>They both did. I'm sure you're aware of how unstable the theocracy was before the Iraqi invasion. Iranians correctly point out that the war served as a lifeline for islamists to entrench their unstable regime, declare martial law, cry defense of the homeland and eliminate the opposition.Funny. That's what's so depressing about the current war, no? The stupid fucking yanks and the insidious israelis have killed any chance at social change in Iran for a generation with their faggoty.
>>2902190>all protests are equally validLol, lmao even
>In Iraq we have a controlled opposition made up of Sunni Islamists, pseudo Ba'athists, Barazani tards, liberals, middle class nationalists, and they all go like "ITS DAAAA MAJOOOOOOOS" >pseudo Ba'athistsYou do realize that baath was nationalist shit, religious at heart, and also close to fascism? Soviet Union supported them, and they draped themselves red, only because USSR was revisionist by that point
>>2902589Lenin could only say that because he lived in a country which exiled its dissident to siberia, if the russian empire was getting help from the cia to exterminate every last communist off it's territory with public beheading, he would've shat his pants
>>2902680 (me)
This also applies to Marx and Engels btw, they were constantly exiled and moved around, never actually threatened
>>2902680CIA are paper tigers compared to bolsheviks at their peak so he wouldnt have cared
>>2902688>CIA are paper tigers compared to bolsheviks at their peakthis is 100% accurate
is there a replacement for nitter yet?
I'm sorry to report the Armranian anon was found in possession of MLP porn by the IRGC and sentenced to death by horsecock rip king at least he went out the way he lived
Trump is psychologically incapable of admitting to an L. Once they've finally stockpiled more interceptors they will attack Iran again, the US is going to follow Israel's lawnmower strategy of maintaining a perpetual, low-level war without ever taking the risk of going for an outright victory.
i'm low autism score and i don't understand these ship-to-ship transfers
where are they happening? why is iran unable to hit the ships as they cross the strait?
>>2902807Have patience, nitter is fighting it, just has to go through the courts first
>>2903023having faith in American courts to not side with a megacorp is pretty naive
>>2902631i am still around i just don't have anything to add.
i took a joint, fell asleep for 18 hours amd still nothing has happened.
>>2902976US has bombed a lot of places in South so apparently iran doesn't have many bases to shoot from there.
but i still hear they are shooting missiles at the sea but not all of them hit their targets.
>>2903058>i took a jointIran doesn't have joints, larpfag.
make a signal account so I can add you it takes like 5 minutes, I ain't giving a possible IRGC agent my legal name, photos and number.
>>2903062uyghur, Marijuana can be found everywhere you dumb fuck.
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It hasn't even been two or three days since the siege began for the new economic pressure
the news is filled with bullshit saying there might be a rebellion in Iran right now and all this nonsense
which people?
which rebellion?
everyone who had the courage was killed
and i happen again they will get killed again
how America is this retarded?
>>2903069>anon learns what a psyop isDownload Signal
>the siegeWho?
>>2903069Oh you mean حصار
>>2903074>download signalno, make me, you have to ran over my dead body. and even then i wouldn't download that shit app.
>>2903074>Download SignalI wish there was a privacy focused messaging app with as much reach as discord.
>Signal is only used for drug deals>Telegram is only used for cp and bestiality>Whatsapp is only used for grooming minors>Matrix is only used for loli hentaiI guess it can't be helped, privacy and discoverability are basically opposites, but still. How come IRC was able to be secure while having a wide range of publicly searchable communities? Why can't we have that back?
>>2903110???? Telegram and Whatsapp are widely used for non-criminal reasons. Telegram was THE foremost messenger for Russians before Putin banned it and Whatsapp is used around the world by billions of people.
>>2903110Signal and Matrix don't have discoverable servers. Nice self report
>>2903110>>Signal is only used for drug deals>>Telegram is only used for cp and bestiality>>Whatsapp is only used for grooming minors>>Matrix is only used for loli hentaiis that all you do with those apps?
>>2903110>>Signal is only used for drug deals>>Telegram is only used for cp and bestiality>>Whatsapp is only used for grooming minors>>Matrix is only used for loli hentaiIt makes me sad we share a website.
>>2903186>>2903189>>2903214the only one of those I've ever used is Matrix and it's just to appeal leftypol bans tbqh. I know telegram is used for that shit because it shows up in news stories for criminal busts all the time. same for Signal being used for drugs. obviously you can use them for other stuff but I never see anyone publicly advertising servers for them on the clearnet or for non-criminal interests. like your favorite influencer or online creator definitely has a discord but won't have telegram on any of their socials. unless they're russian I guess.
>>2903269Many, if not most, large news-media outfits have telegrams, anon.
All normies have WhatsApp.
All lefty activists have Signal.
>>2903110What about SimpleX?
>According to Channel 12, a direct channel between the Shin Bet and Hamas was established in August 2024, after six Israeli hostages were murdered. The network reported that the channel had Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s approval. Netanyahu’s office has denied this account, saying that negotiations with Hamas were conducted solely through mediators. Channel 12 nevertheless reported that dozens of direct calls took place, that Ronen Bar listened to some of them in real time, and that a source familiar with the mechanism said it helped overcome obstacles that eventually led to the January 2025 hostage deal. This means that the question is no longer merely whether direct negotiation with Hamas could work. According to the reported operational record, Israel tested such a channel, and a source directly familiar with it says that it worked well enough to matter.
>Channel 12 says it knew about the direct channel in April 2025 but was prevented by military censorship from publishing the story. Publication was permitted only on August 27, 2026. The same information in April 2025 and August 2026 is not politically the same information, because its capacity to affect accountability, public debate and political choice changes with time. Control over information is therefore also control over its political timing.https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-secret-channel-is-not-the-scandal/ >>2901280>don't know what you're referring.there's been a slew of videos showing iranian women in skimpy or tight clothing being posted across the internet for months now
mostly by the usual cast of characters of zionists, persian nationalists and whitecels obsessed with brown women
>>2901894>trump first promised that he will send help for the protesters.were iranians really so stupid to believe this? lmao
>>2902139> anti-Iraqi riot in Irancan the armenian confirm this?
>>2903069>there might be a rebellion in Iran right now and all this nonsensewho the fuck is saying that lol
do you only watch saudi funded rags like iran international or something
>>2903208whatever translator you're using it is failing miserably.
>>2903546it's another nothing burger shit show.
as far as USA doesn't attack tehran or iran doesn't attack US ships, nothing serious enough will happen.
>>2903571random women posting on insta or X in their houses or somewhere that there is no cops is not proof of anything
>>2903586there was zero anti-iraqi riot anywhere, never happened.
there was a slogan tho "no gaza, no lebanon, my heart goes for iran"
>>2903597a lot of news sites and youtube channels
>>2903624>random women posting on insta or X in their houses or somewhere that there is no cops is not proof of anythingduring muharram there was a clip of a group of bimbo looking women and fuckboys on the street during one of those mourning performances. you might've seen it since i think it went viral on iranian internet as well
btw a question what do iranians think of people that clearly homosexual such as the guy in this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pau3Tum7DiQdo they just ignore like in a don't ask don't tell kind of way?
>>2903672well hijab situation in tehran and karadj is kinda how do i say it…it doesn't even exist kinda. you see more anti-hijab peeps there.
>think of people that clearly homosexual such as the guy in this video?was he even homosexual?
well the majority still is conservative and the slander and homophobia is very common. usually acceptance of this individual groups is rare.
>>2903586>can the armenian confirm this?The Arm*nian doesn't leave the basement.
>>2903624>translatorI'm cultured I don't need translators. I called you a sissy fag btw.
>>2903624>there was zero anti-iraqi riot anywhere, never happened.The latest one I know of happened a year ago. Allegedly Some PMFcel freakoid "students" started texting random female colleagues about mu'tah, they got reported and it turned into a public scandal where hundreds of protesters called for all Iraqi students to be expelled. Some report that the protests had underlying ethonationalist sentiment, others called it a stretch.
KKKrtical support to Iranians in castrating and impaling Iraqi islamists btw
>>2903707*mut'ah or however the sabzi sizzles
>>2903676what neighborhoods in tehran are the ones where religious people that support the IS live? whenever i've seen videos from there i still see many women that wear chador
>was he even homosexual?well i am a homosexual and his mannerism and voice come across as homosexual, yes.
i get the impression that in middle eastern countries where the revulsion against homosexuality is so deeply ingrained, men that are clearly effeminate and would be thought of as gay in any western country are thought of as straight because people just can't accept someone might be a homosexual unless they literally catch them in the act because it's just such a repulsive thing for them. am i correct?
>>2903707>Some report that the protests had underlying ethonationalist sentiment, others called it a stretch.so you don't actually know what happened, retard?
>2903739
Only speak when spoken to, westard.
>>2903707>I called you a sissy fag btw.oh boohoo did i hurt your feeling you pedophile faggot ass?
and please shut the fuck up about iraq, i don't give a shit.
the thread is about iran.
>what neighborhoods in tehran are the ones where religious people that support the IS live? the fuck do i know? i don't live there.
my guess is near basidj centers and masques.
>voice come across as homosexuallet a man be zesty. someone emotion or attitude doesn't determine their whole sexuality.
>am i correct?ehm no
we know what gay means, doesn't need affirmation on it, some are open, some aren't for obvious reasons.
the society is mostly negative about them.
>>2903767>christcuck calling anyone pedofagI accept your concession
>stfu about iraqTell americunts and IRGCucks to hop off our dick first + We are one peoples o algo
fyi during the protests quite literally I was the only poster in these generals to rebuke westerners who were dehumanizing and celebrating the mass murder of your people and I got banned for it dozens of times, they didn't even concede that thousands were murdered until the ayatollah himself admitted it. That's the true face of lefty/pol/ and its "internationalism"
>>2903778>Tell americunts and IRGCucks to hop off our dick first.your dick? you guys were bottom bitch since Cyrus fucked you asses.
it is not my problem that your country became a football playground for every team.
>fyi during the protests quite literally I was the only poster in these generals to rebuke westernersthat's your problem, why would i give a shit about opinion of bunch of westoids, to what they think about me or my country?
they do not feel my pain, they didn't saw me or my people went through, they have no impact on the war whatsoever.
they are already pro-commie, pro-china and soviet the same countries who massively killed their people, so if they're fan of that kinda ahrimanic shit then they're morally retarded.
>We are one peoples o algoyeah the people who attacked my country, raped women, tortured captive soldiers , killed around 1 millions of my people, use chemical weapon, got helped from every country and still sucked cock.
you guys have devil written on your dna.
>>2903788this is one of the reason i don't feel bad about what happened to you assholes during US-Iraq war.
hope all of you get abu-gharib treatment.
and get sent back to hell where you all belong to.
Ladies, ladies. Both of you are deeply horrible people.
>>2903791sure, random poster.
uyghle American communists have no other consequential input unto Iranian politics that isn't some gay self fellating over muh campism or ultraleftism other than their present government failing whatever operations its trying to do there
>>2903798the whole left is like that. muh US bad muh iran good like a cavemen brain that can't comprehend there is no good side.
about right…they are all zionist circumsized jewcy cocks lovers, for muh God chosen people and rapture.
I hope the lurking janny find it in xer heart to forgive the Iranian who despite everything is living through war and sanctions so emotional outbursts are to be expected and it's not any worse than the western left mocking our dead repeatedly
stfu, and do not engage with me further iraqi genz fembot.
Iran needs to hurry up and nuke pissrael
>>2903809and then what? get bombed to oblivion by the rest of the atomic countries?
>>2903848dumb ultra doesn't understand it's anti imperialist realpolitik to kill workers and veil femoids
>>2903848I was ready for the most libshit take based on her appearance. Pleasantly surprised
>>2903895that's on you dog
>>2900712Now almost everyone retracted that letter. The only one still backing it up is angela davis and… I don't know who else.
>>2903971>retractedImagine living in the west and being bullied by islamists to drop any internationalist sentiment you hold. Just how pathetic the western left is? Meanwhile we deal with daily bullying and state violence and still resist
>>2903978Because the western left has an inferiority complex over living in the imperial core which is why they let people hostile to their aims walk all over them
>>2903980The "aims" of the western left (I don't consider marxists to be leftists) is to have universal healthcare, higher minimum wage and trans representation. Being a campist for a precevied moral higher ground while being content with vooooting status quo socdems aligns with their aims. They're not betraying their class, they never hid the fact that they're petty bourgeois reformists.
>>2903983>redefining left so you can sneer at strawmenLeftypol moment
>>2903985I made a mega thread with 14 first hand theory sources on why Marxism isn't leftism. I can't be responsible for your education every time.
Also are you seriously arguing that marxists outnumber the radlib leftoids in the west?
>>2903988You made a thread? Wow, then you’re right.
>>2903787>they are already pro-commie, pro-china and soviet the same countries who massively killed their people, oh i wish, you larp as a white bourgie faggot, kill yourself
>>2903983>>2903988>falling for rightoid framing about "da left" in a desperate attempt to appeal to them and not look cringeThey're going to call you a leftist subhuman no matter what and shoot you dead broather
>>2903995Yes, just like Marx fell for it.
We don't claim Sinan Antoon, he looks like a crakkka and has a fag name.
>>2903848>a third waywhat did she mean by this? but srsly, this is naive revolutionary phrasemongering. any attempt for revolution would be crushed either way, and the US or other minor powers (including Turkey) swooping in, and installing a puppet regime like in Syria. to revert back to an idealized version of an revolution in times of crisis is to wash your hands in innocence while people get slaughtered
>>2904003>revolution is le impossiblereported for spreading anti-communist psyops
>>2903983I don't want representation, I want the government to pay for my pussy
>>2904006>I don't want representation>I want the government are you really so illiterate you dont see the obvious contradiction here? do better
>>2904006>government>paySocdem labor aristocrakkka spotted. The revolution decommodifes gender.
>>2903997lmao, yeah. But the point that it's 'western left' is what I am trying to deconstruct with the table.
Military leaders warn Hegseth against extending Iran war operations
<A recent classified assessment advised that prolonged large-scale operations in the Middle East risk weakening U.S. capabilities elsewhere.https://archive.is/BjOon#selection-493.195-493.250Tl;dr: the us navy is a potemkin fleet
>>2903978imagine laundering imperialist war propaganda to stick it to the impotent islamists
are all the major iranian diasporas in western countries aligned with israel and the us?
>>2904065Iran doesn't execute thousands of political prisoners and protesters but also they're mossad if it did :))
don't you just hate it when you see lots of new replies and come to this general expecting to see news or analysis or something worthwhile but it's just irakkki puta having another sperg out?
>>2904073are you denying mossad was inciting armed insurrection and smuggling in guns, or are you just mad that the imperialist plan didnt succeed?
do you really think the best time to cry about internal political repression of a country ruled by reactionaries is when the imperial hegemon is waging war on it or is that just because you'd be happy to see the empire win?
is your obsession about islamists in the context of the empire lashing out at geostrategic targets to prevent its decline telling of a small mind or a deep seated personal grudge?
>>2904116>are you denying mossad was inciting armed insurrection and smuggling in gunsYes to 30 people as a justification for total prole death. Israel has no grassroots support in Iran. If the US intervened during the mass protests your dear regime wouldn't exist right now, and something worse for the US might take root, clearly that's not a priority.
The US is doing the exact same thing it did in 90s Iraq right now, allowing the state to annihilate its dissidents so when it rolls around it'll be a cakewalk. Not my fault you're such a moron still operating on war of civilizations mythology blind to class struggle.
>>2904097Yes. I barely even check it anymore, let alone post anything. Kinda the jannies fault tbh.
>>2903767>and please shut the fuck up about iraq, i don't give a shit.>the thread is about iran.He's our thread schizo. Weird antisocial iraqi kid who gets off on shitting up leftypol threads. Really shouldn't be as big an issue as it is but we are currently in a bout of poor/inactive moderation. You either learn to tune it out or you minimize the thread.
>>2904070>are all the major iranian diasporas in western countries aligned with israel and the us?No. Kurdish diaspora is more complex. I'd say it's pretty true for the Persian diaspora though, and IDK much about Baloch diaspora.
>>2904138>antisocial iraqi kid Ask the jannies about my high specs if you're uninformed I mog you to hell and back lil vro
Not only physically but I have mentally dominated the entire thread, 3/4 schizo callouts are targeted at random people they suspect are me. A specter in hunting leftypol…
>>2904141>spergs all over this place for days on end with his antisocial low-intelligence nonsense<people get rightfully annoyed at this non-stop spam of insane nothingness, bickering and porn-speak>This means you are le dominated and i am very smartIt's so fucking tiresome. If we had a half decent moderation staff you would be very long gone.
I like how western leftists are weaponizing the Iranian poster personal grudge against Iraqis but ignoring him agreeing with me on everything related to the protests and regime
Just use sanduyghur as an argument next
Yes I'm a proud sanduyghur my ancestors fought for liberation in the slave revolt it's glorious to be a sanduyghur
>>2904097no but i do hate when i come to "lefty"pol and literally all the posts are just cope and apologism for bourgeoislop (le multipolar porky, ziohran, cucktin, etc.)
Rethinking Kurdish strategy in Iran beyond the politics of anticipationThe Kurdish political parties in Iran face a fundamental strategic question: what comes next in an increasingly volatile political environment?
There is little indication that the Islamic Republic is preparing to either yield domestically or retreat from confrontation abroad. Having survived the initial shock of the U.S.-Israeli Operation Epic Fury, which began on February 28, Tehran is now confronting Washington’s Operation Economic Fury, designed to deepen Iran’s economic isolation and restrict state revenues.
Yet the regime appears to be preparing for prolonged confrontation rather than retreat. Iran has reorganized parts of its military and security leadership and adopted an increasingly confrontational rhetoric. Former IRGC commander Mohsen Rezaei, recently appointed secretary of the Supreme National Security Council, warned that Iran could target the interests of neighbouring countries cooperating with the United States and threatened to disrupt oil exports through the Strait of Hormuz and Persian Gulf if confrontation escalates.
At home, political and civil space is also tightening. Parliament recently approved the “bill to counter foreign infiltration,” which seeks to criminalize a broad range of unauthorized contacts, interviews, academic collaborations, and engagement with foreign institutions. Tehran therefore appears to be preparing simultaneously for external confrontation and tighter internal control.
For Kurdish parties, this produces profound uncertainty. Iran may experience gradual transformation, revolutionary upheaval, internal fragmentation, further war, or renewed authoritarian consolidation. No Kurdish party can confidently predict which direction the country will take.
Their situation is further complicated by their presence in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq (KRI), where the Kurdistan Regional Government constrains their political activity, mobility, and room to maneuver. Tehran is also pressuring Baghdad to implement the 2023 security agreement between Iran and Iraq, including provisions aimed at disarming and relocating Iranian Kurdish parties away from the Iran-Iraq border.
This uncertainty intersects with a deeper structural problem in Kurdish politics. The Kurds are a non-state people whose homeland is divided across four nation-states. Their population is fragmented across borders and minoritized within each state. Kurdish political movements therefore operate within political and territorial arrangements they do not control. Their strategic possibilities are shaped not only by the states they contest, but also by neighboring governments, regional rivalries, and external powers.
For Iranian Kurdish parties, this condition is particularly acute. Their presence in the KRI provides political and territorial space, while simultaneously subjecting them to the calculations of Baghdad, Erbil, Tehran, Ankara, and international powers.
Operation Epic Fury illustrated this clearly. During the first weeks of the war, reports suggested that Iranian Kurdish forces might cross from the KRI into Iranian Kurdistan. Donald Trump initially appeared to welcome such a move, while some reports indicated that Kurdish forces were preparing to enter Iran.
Yet the move did not happen. This was not simply because Kurdish parties were unwilling to seize the opportunity. Decisive factors remained beyond their control. First, Kurdish actors had drawn lessons from Rojava. Military alliances without sufficient political guarantees can produce gains that remain vulnerable once an external ally changes its priorities. Any military move therefore required political guarantees capable of protecting its achievements. Washington could provide no such guarantee.
Second, the U.S. position shifted quickly. A day after Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan spoke with U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Trump changed his position. He argued that the war was already complicated enough and that he did not want the Kurds to be harmed. Third, Tehran pressured both the Kurdistan Regional Government and the Iraqi federal government to prevent Iranian Kurdish forces from using Iraqi territory to enter Iran.
The Rojhelati (Eastern Kurdistan) Kurdish parties therefore paused their action. The result is what I call a Kurdish strategic stalemate: a condition in which political actors remain organized, mobilized, and prepared, but possess limited capacity to determine the timing, direction, or terms of political change.
What is the Kurdish strategic stalemate?
Strategic stalemate describes a politics of anticipation. Political actors remain organized and engaged but lack sufficient power to initiate a decisive transformation of the political order. Strategy therefore becomes oriented towards waiting for something else to change: state weakness, war, revolution, elite fragmentation, international intervention, or another systemic crisis that might create an opening.
For Kurdish movements, this politics of anticipation has deep historical roots. For a century, Kurdish political possibilities have repeatedly been shaped by developments beyond Kurdish control. Parties have waited for moments when central states weaken, political space suddenly opens, revolutions transform existing institutions, or regional crises alter the balance of power.
The logic is understandable. A weaker central state can create opportunities for a minoritized non-state people to advance demands that a strong state has suppressed.
But Kurdish history also reveals the limits of building strategy around such moments. The Republic of Kurdistan in Mahabad in 1946 provides perhaps the clearest Iranian example. Its emergence cannot be separated from the geopolitical conditions created by the Second World War, the weakened authority of the Iranian state, and the Soviet military presence in northwestern Iran. Soviet power restricted Tehran’s ability to reassert control and provided the geopolitical space in which the Kurdish republic could emerge.
But that protection was temporary. Once Moscow withdrew its forces, the strategic environment changed. The Iranian army returned, Mahabad surrendered in December 1946, and the republic collapsed. The geopolitical circumstances that made the experiment possible could not sustain it once Soviet priorities changed.
A similar pattern appeared during the 1979 Iranian Revolution. As the monarchy collapsed and central authority weakened, the Kurds found a political opening. They mobilized, organized society, and for a period established forms of self-government.
But once the Islamic Republic consolidated its power, that opening closed. Khomeini declared jihad against Kurdish resistance, and the state restored its ability to project military power into Kurdistan.
This is not to reduce the Kurdish achievement or deny the Kurdish political agency. Kurdish agency was indeed indispensable. But agency operated within an externally constructed strategic environment that proved detrimental to the Kurdish cause, as these same experiences reveal.
What is achieved through strategic dependency may remain dependent for its survival on forces outside Kurdish control. This does not mean Kurdish movements should reject geopolitical alliances. Nor should they refuse to exploit moments of state weakness. No serious political movement ignores favorable changes in its strategic environment.
But a power vacuum is an opportunity. It is not a strategy. There is an important difference between using contingency and depending on contingency. That distinction should be at the center of Kurdish political debate today.
The objective should therefore be to convert temporary geopolitical openings into forms of strategic capacity that depend less and less on the conditions that produced them.
Strategic capacity does not mean escaping geopolitics. For a stateless people, that is unrealistic. Regional powers, wars, state crises, and international alliances will continue to shape Kurdish possibilities.
The question is how Kurdish politics can better act within those constraints. This requires a multi-scale strategy. International alliances remain necessary, but they should not substitute for Kurdish political capacity. External powers should be treated as partners of circumstance rather than guarantors of Kurdish political survival. Kurdish parties need to ask not only what an alliance can provide during a crisis, but what happens when that ally changes its priorities or withdraws.
At the same time, Kurdish parties need stronger and more institutionalized coalitions with other minoritized communities in Iran. Such alliances cannot rest only on opposition to a common enemy. A shared enemy may disappear, or alliances may fracture once political conditions change. A shared political vision is more durable.
That vision could include democracy, decentralization, linguistic and cultural rights, gender equality, economic justice, minority rights, environmental protection, and a different distribution of political authority.
Strategic capacity must also be built before the next crisis arrives. This means moving beyond a model in which parties prepare primarily for the moment when war, revolution, or state weakness suddenly creates political space. Political space must also be built in periods of closure.
This requires deeper social organization, stronger political institutions, greater intellectual production, clearer policy programs, broader internal legitimacy, and a more durable relationship between political parties and Kurdish society inside Iran. It also requires Kurdish politics to develop answers not only to the Kurdish national question but to the broader political questions confronting Iran: democracy, decentralization, economic inequality, environmental degradation, women’s rights, minority rights, and the distribution of political authority. The objective should therefore be strategic autonomy rather than political isolation.
The central challenge, therefore, is not predicting when Iran will become weaker. The strategic objective should be to reach a point where Kurdish parties do not ask primarily, ‘What opportunity will the next crisis give us?’ but rather, ‘What political capacity are we building now that will allow us to shape whatever comes next?’ For a stateless people, geopolitical opportunities will always matter. They cannot simply be ignored. But there is a profound difference between using an opportunity and depending on one.
https://www.theamargi.com/posts/rethinking-kurdish-strategy-in-iran-beyond-the-politics-of-anticipation >>2904182PJAK asserts independence from PKK, says it will not dissolvePJAK spokesperson Rivar Abdanan told The Amargi that the PKK’s dissolution “no direct connection” to PJAK. He said PJAK would welcome a genuine democratic process if Iran offered one.
The Turkish Parliament adopted a 12-article law on August 10 titled the Law on Strengthening National Solidarity and Social Integration. The legislation establishes a legal framework for the disarmament and dissolution of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), the Kurdistan Communities Union (KCK), and other organizations associated with the PKK, while also addressing the reintegration of their members and supporters into Turkish society.
The wording raises an obvious question beyond Turkey’s borders: how far does the category of organizations “associated” with the PKK extend? The Kurdistan Free Life Party (PJAK), an Iranian Kurdish organization frequently described by governments and analysts as an affiliate of the PKK, rejects that characterization. PJAK Executive Council member and spokesperson Rivar Abdanan told The Amargi that the Turkish legislation has “no direct connection” to his organization.
PJAK is an Iranian Kurdish political and armed organization operating mainly in East Kurdistan (western Iran) and is ideologically aligned with Abdullah Ocalan’s political philosophy. It has been active since the 2000s as an armed group fighting the Islamic Republic and demanding Kurdish political and cultural rights within the Iranian state.
<PJAK rejects the label of a PKK branchDespite arguments that PJAK is the PKK’s Kurdish-Iranian offspring, Abdanan says PJAK is fundamentally politically and organizationally independent. He rejected descriptions of PJAK as a branch of the PKK, describing it as “false narratives”, and insisted that the party makes its own decisions.
“PJAK is an independent Kurdish political party operating in eastern Kurdistan and Iran. The dissolution of the PKK/KCK has no direct connection to PJAK.”
However, Abdanan did not distance PJAK from Ocalan’s political thought: “In terms of worldview and the philosophy of struggle, PJAK believes in the ideas and roadmap of Leader Apo [Abdullah Ocalan].” He added that PJAK intends to continue its struggle in Iran and Kurdistan through what it describes as democratic politics, while reserving armed action for circumstances it defines as legitimate self-defense.
<More than a disarmament processAbdanan cautioned against interpreting the Turkish initiative primarily as a technical exercise in disarmament. In his view, the framework law could become an important political opening, but only if it leads to a much broader transformation in Turkey.
“The framework law is an important step in the changes and transformations taking place in Turkey and Kurdistan, but it is still insufficient and contains serious shortcomings,” he said.
For Abdanan, the key question is whether Turkey can move beyond what he sees as a century-long political impasse and shift the Kurdish question from the realm of security policy into the legal and political sphere.
That would require more than the dissolution of an armed organization, he argued. It would require legal recognition of Kurdish identity and political status, constitutional reform, and a transition towards what he describes as a “democratic republic.”
In Abdnan’s view, if such a transformation were to take place, Kurds would no longer be reduced to a regional “pressure card.” Instead, Kurdistan could become “a corridor and a bridge connecting democracy throughout the Middle East.” However, he warned that disarmament would be unsustainable if Ankara continued to frame the Kurdish question primarily as a security problem.
The prospective dissolution of the PKK also raises the practical question of what happens to members who may be unwilling or unable to return to Turkey. One possible scenario is that some could move into other Kurdish armed organizations, including PJAK. Abdanan, however, rejected that assumption. He said that a successful political process should be broad enough to allow PKK members to return to Turkey and participate in political life.
“The idea is not that people will simply return home passively. Rather, a new form of struggle will begin in which Kurds will engage in politics not only in Kurdistan but also at the center of Turkey,” he argued.
<PJAK will maintain its presenceDespite endorsing the possibility of such a transition in Turkey, PJAK is not signaling an immediate change in its own organizational or military presence. Asked whether PJAK would continue to remain in the Qandil Mountains after the PKK’s dissolution, Abdanan gave a brief answer: “We will continue our struggle in all areas where it is necessary for us to maintain a presence.”
By Abdanan’s account, PJAK’s future will be determined less by the PKK’s dissolution than by political developments inside Iran.
PJAK’s armed struggle has principally been directed against the Iranian state. If Turkey’s process is understood as a transition from armed struggle towards political negotiation, the obvious question is whether PJAK would consider a similar path if Tehran offered one. Abdanan did not rule out such a possibility.
“If the Islamic Republic were to make such a proposal, and if there were genuine preparedness, planning, and serious determination for fundamental change in Iran, and if we found such a process to be compatible with the interests of the Kurdish nation, we would examine it and act in accordance with our own roadmap, plans, and program.”
PJAK is not offering to dissolve simply in exchange for negotiations. Abdanan ties such a possibility to what he described as fundamental democratic change and recognition of Kurdish political, cultural, economic and social rights. He stated, “If such a process of democratic and political resolution were to begin in Iran, we would welcome it as well. But unlike in Turkey, no sign of such a change has so far emerged in Iran.”
<Why might Ankara treat PJAK differently?Abdanan’s argument does not answer the separate question of how Ankara will interpret the new law’s reference to organizations it sees as PKK-associated. That may depend as much on geography and regional strategy as on formal organizational or ideological relationships.
Turkey does not necessarily view all Kurdish armed organizations through the same strategic lens. In Syria, Ankara has long treated Kurdish-led armed structures along its southern border as a direct national-security concern and pushed for their integration – or dissolution – into Syrian state institutions. The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), whose areas of control extended along substantial stretches of Turkey’s southeastern frontier, therefore remained central to Ankara’s calculations over Syria and border security. SDF Commander Mazloum Abdi formally announced the organization’s formal integration into the Syrian Army on August 25, 2026, thereby dissolving the SDF as an independent military structure.
PJAK, on the other hand, occupies a different strategic geography. Its armed presence is concentrated primarily in the mountainous borderlands between Iran and the Kurdistan Region of Iraq, including areas around the Qandil Mountain. It sits outside Turkey’s immediate frontier and within a different geopolitical theatre: Iran’s western borderlands. That distinction may become increasingly consequential as uncertainty over Iran’s political future deepens.
Iranian Kurdish politics is fragmented among several organizations with different ideological orientations, external relationships and strategic objectives. At the same time, Iranian Kurdistan is becoming increasingly entangled in the broader confrontation involving Iran, Israel, and the United States.
This potentially shifts Ankara’s calculations when compared to Syria. There, Turkey sought to curtail the autonomy of an armed Kurdish structure positioned directly along its border and strengthen central Syrian authority. The disappearance of PJAK along the Iran-Iraq frontier, however, could produce a different kind of political and security vacuum, potentially strengthening other Iranian Kurdish actors with closer relationships to Israel or the United States.
Against that background, Ankara may feel less urgency to press PJAK into the same immediate disarmament framework. PJAK ceasing its operations could alter the balance among Iranian Kurdish organizations in ways that do not necessarily serve Turkish interests.
The eventual boundaries of Turkey’s new framework may be less shaped by which organizations share Ocalan’s ideology or have historical relationships with the PKK, and more so by how Ankara evaluates the strategic role of different Kurdish actors across Syria, Iraq, and Iran.
PJAK’s position is clear: ideological alignment with Ocalan does not make it subject to the PKK’s dissolution. The more difficult question is whether Turkey will ultimately draw the boundary in the same place.
https://www.theamargi.com/posts/pjak-asserts-independence-from-pkk >>2904179>multipolar>bourgeoisieThis is Chinese communist government talking point. Well, the original word should be Multilateralism. But it was poorly translated initially by western media.
Your rant about multipolarity is full anti-communist in nature, if you don't recognize the objectives.
>the whole left is like that. muh US bad muh iran good like a cavemen brain that can't comprehend there is no good side.
phew, Good call I made to not pay any attention to that moron.
>>2903778>mass murder of your people>thousands were murdered>until the ayatollah himself admitted itretard alert.
The Iranian government posted the count. The thousands are in the people killed by what the Iranian government called "terrorists". There's nothing to
>even concedeWhat a pair of anti-communists chuds "from Iraq" and "from Iran" we have here.
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>>2904137Iraq was still recovering from war with Iran, btw.
>>2904073Iran killed 1000000000 innocent people gommie.
>>2904206>please take muh state propaganda at face valueNo thanks. Thanks for conceding that thousands were killed doe
>>2904260Die in a ditch
the IRGC are revolutionary in their defense of iran against western imperialism no matter how many 'leftists' they suppress
>>2903994>kill yourselfNO
>>2903996>why shouldnt we be happy when people like you get killed?well westard pseudo-subhuman what can i tell? not suprised.
>>2904206>What a pair of anti-communists chuds "from Iraq" and "from Iran" we have here.this is the exact bullshit schizo paranoid shit i hear in right leaning sites.
oh he must be a jew if says natsoc bad
and now he is a chud for talk shit about communism.
get the fuck out with that bullshit.
>The thousands are in the people killed by what the Iranian government called "terrorists". There's nothing toyeah IR known for being the most honest to God government.
they never do anything bad no they won't they're holy.
>>2904326i believe it when i see it.
this whole war is either FUCK or FUCK OFF.
US has to get the fuck back to her country or stay long enough for another 20 years of wars with this speed.
>>2903996
Reported for racism
>>2904264> state propagandayou were the one who invoked the
state propaganda. so, now is it worthless? how's that? you can't have it both ways.
>>2904364>you*western leftists
Learn to read, retard.
>>2903978>Meanwhile we deal with daily bullying and state violence and still resistwhat state violence have you personally experienced?
>>2904206I ran into an Iranian girl completely randomly at Kroger of all places who got out right after it happened and she said there was a massacre there. Idk man.
>>2903895Revcoms are kind of funny like that.
>>2904003Realistically yes but the (a) the crisis is permanent so there's no stable equilibrium to restore (b) the alternative to revolution is petit-bourgeois radicalism which is what these declassed Western multipolarists are.
>>2903848My opposition to the war in Iran is based on the idea that Iran dindu nuffin and he was a good boy and I hate this video. If however it was revealed that IRGC's crimes are real, I will become a neoconservative and enlist to invade Kharg island.
>>2904401you aren't muslim how are those videos relevant to you as a white american?
>>2904412Take your daily meds timmy
>>2904410If americucks actually cared about the bombings of Iranians they'd have moblized to stop it instead of being fat treatlrites who metaphysically support the IRGC against straving protesters to feel better about voting for a socdem labor aristocracy
>>2904420I'm not sure if walmart sharters can do much about the war, given that they're not being drafted to fight it. An inability to do something might be the reason why their opposition manifests as virtue signaling about the Iranian govt being wholesome and good actually without any other substance.
>>2904420>mobilized to stop itHow ? You think the individual american has any power over that ? (Inb4 bro just organize randomly out of nowhere to like bomb missile factories or some shit I dunno)
>>2904426You don't have an ounce of the fighting spirit Iranian workers have demonstrated
Keep your silence
>>2904420that is a point, i actually talked about this somewhere else.
there was zero protest against this war, there was for vietnam, iraq etc but i guess it is not a full ground attack but still your government took life of many innocents including childrens…and no protests.
americans are monsters huh? who only care about their own benifits.
most things you hear them bitching about is the gas prices
>>2904426it doesn't matter if they can or they can't stop, is humanitarianism dead there? to as at least criticize this war or protest against it?
>>2904410the irgc crimes are real and delight as like a sun in the daylight.
human rights are genuinely non-existence in iran and many those have been broken.
but no matter what you choose to be ignorant about it because it doesn't serve the view that you want to have.
>>2904433>your governmentI'm Iraqi and protests does nothing, never did, never will. Vietnam was different because the opposition to war involved mass action, sabotage, fragging, limited insurrection, mass desertion, mutiny etc. The US military was composed of disgruntled working class drafted soldiers. Today the US military is made up exclusively of treatlerites without a revolutionary bone in their frail lifeless bodies and the american public is just as docile.
Vietnam could've only won the war thanks to the homefront waged by blacks and workers.
>>2904438>protests does nothing, never did, never will.it's not important, a sign of humanity is to show emotions against violence.
they bitch about "oh my country is violating another country and this war is illegal" then doesn't do shit but hey pride month is good, let's go outside and yell how much a fucking faggots we are.
>>2904443how am i supposed to know you're being sarcastic over texts that exactly looks like some braindead moron would write?
>>2904446He is a braindead moron doing damage control with plausible deniability I was only pretending to be retarded which is official US policy btw
>the reasons for effective or ineffective resistance are directly correlated to my personal resentment
Aggressive USApol today
>>2904559
If true then we must support Amerisrael because they are historically progressive compared to pre monopoly capitalist backward countries
>>2904559
>its all muh hecking epstein please please please dont talk about class!
hasanabi heads have arrived
The United States has launched ballitic missiles against pickaxe moutain
>>2904405>I ran into an Iranian girl completely randomly at Kroger I didn't know that Iran has Krogers.
>>2904565
Most progressive you mean:
>No Marxist will forget, however, that capitalism is progressive compared with feudalism, and that imperialism is progressive compared with pre-monopoly capitalism. Hence, it is not every struggle against imperialism that we should support. We will not support a struggle of the reactionary classes against imperialism; we will not support an uprising of the reactionary classes against imperialism and capitalism.
Also
>But those who live by the labour of others are taught by religion to practise charity while on earth, thus offering them a very cheap way of justifying their entire existence as exploiters and selling them at a moderate price tickets to well-being in heaven. Religion is opium for the people. Religion is a sort of spiritual booze, in which the slaves of capital drown their human image, their demand for a life more or less worthy of man.
Now would lenon support the most developped state on earth or a theocratic backwater??
>>2904562then go chain little kids to a radiator and rape them.
>>2904569i checked there is no news about it
>>2904585he means in his own country he met an iranian girl
>>2904439Y r trainpipall so good at killing brown proles?
>>2904420>If americucks actually cared about the bombings of Iranians they'd have moblized to stop itexcuse me? how do you expect american leftists to have time to read and write essays about proto-fascist authors like this
>>2900637 if they were busy with all that shit? and I cant believe you seriously used the word "treatlerite" like that, your lack of solidarity is disgusting
>>2904599>CPUSA The jokes right themselves
>>2904602
>lenin would support the ayatollah
irgcel cope
>>2904616hes right tho. so would trotsky
The us is bombing Iran again.
>>2904621the whole IRAN
they sooting random missiles at bandar abbas they were doing that for past 4 months.
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whoever roots against iran and iranians, i hope their families get raped infront of them. piece of shit mutts.
>>2904622
>workers
They are mix of lumpen, petite and mercenaries
It's better than to bomb a school girl in tehran or empty street in tel aviv
I hope Iran wins of course, what I don’t know is if it’ll actually be America’s 1905, both its bourgeois and proletariat are so docile and complacent at this point it might not make a difference, maybe nothing will
>>2904626Burgerites really love bombing remote industrial plants in Iran. That's probably their target this time too. Just can't get enough of prole blood, has to fight overproduction somehow.
I hope your family is safe
>the retard that thinks imperialism starts and ends with le epstein got banned
holy based mods, maybe there is hope for leftypol after all
Mods = GODS
>>2904675Imperialism is when epstein class.
>>2904588He wouldnt support neither.
>>2904629look if iran loses, no one gonna blame us,two of the super military are at our asses.
but if US loses no one gonna let them to forget it.
that's all US has been doing since ww2, fighting random third worlders to pump their egotesticals and most times they leave with less testicles, US is a pathetic bully.
>>2904631there is mostly seaports there.
>I hope your family is safethanks probably nothing would happen really.
>>2904695But afghanistan kicked us ass and everyone forgot it
>>2904695>>2904699Since iran helped us with afghanistan that means afghanistan kicked both us and irans asses. But everybody forgot about it
>>2904699not really people still bring it up, especially if they wanna give an example about how US wars ends badly.
>>2904702when did iran even remotely help US?
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the problem with US is that it goes it's way from 3 oceans and 3 continents to just fight the most random wars ever. instead of just chilling out and making money.
>>2904705It is making money though
>>2904695How would losing to Iran be worse than losing to Vietnam or North Korea?
>>2904710for trump maybe
but it is fucking up worldwide economy and gas prices
>>2904713for trump maybe
but it is fucking up world view on US as an empire
>>2904722it is historically progressive to support the IRI which will destroy the USA bourgeoisie class and deliver the country to the USA proletariat class and that is why i support the IRI because they arem ore historically progressive than the USA is historically progressive and i am all about progressing history
>>2904737uygha Rafhida always collaborate with US finance capital they'll never actually dedollarize anything or hurt US imperialism they just say all that to make themselves look good but they're just the near enemy for Iranian workers
>>2904741you know nothing the war advances discontent and discord in the heartland of hte USA and worsens the disfunction of the USA military and reduces the profits of the USA burgezee class thand therefore because of that reason it follows that the IRI is historically progressive don't ever reply to me again
>>2904743There is no amount of dysfunction or hurt US workers can go through that would make then actually threaten the government and the settler first worldoid structure, it’s like expecting an Israeli revolution, they’re the same country
>>2904752They are, both settler colonies founded on genocide that use expansion to delay the natural course of class conflict. Why would you kill your boss as a prole when you can kill a native and claim their land and become petit bourgeois?
>>2904749American exceptionalism
slaughter USA military it is historically progressive. starve USA workers it is historically progressive.
>>2904753It's not 1842 any more dipshit
>>2904754It’s settler colonial exceptionalism, there will never be a revolution in Australia for the same reason
>>2904695>thanksYou're welcome habibi
>probably nothing would happen reallyYou never know who is late night gambling in the drumf admin
>>2904756The legacy of 1842 lives in superstructure that won’t allow french 1789 or Russian 1905 to emerge
>le 4cuck frog
my estimation of the irakkki poster as a man just fuckin plummeted
>>2904771Imagine actually believing the “Iraqi” and “Iranian” are posting from anywhere other than Langley
>>2904779I think this of anyone that disagrees with me in literally any way, not even on political subjects
Damn dude it’s almost like Iranians and Iraqis are human beings with diverse opinions just like any other nationality and not some noble-savage hive mind
Oh you're mad I used pepe which is literally an indigenous symbol and deity to the middle east and used in modern Iraqi art
My culture isn't your meme, cracker.
>>2904785holy cope, just delete your frogshit folder and i will pretend this never happened
from the perspective of historic progress it doesn't matter if USAnians are human beings with diverse opinions just like any other nationality and not some noble-savage hive mind. they are disposable resources to be sacrificed at the altar of historic progress. and leftists have no qualms about liquidating them for the sake of progress historical. starve them. make them homeless. war famine pestilence. history progresses.
>>2904810If the US gets rid of the islamic freikorps without replacing with marines Iraq would collapse in a week
That's why these posts go straight to the big book of never happening
>>2904722Yes, but have you considered it makes for good bait?
why doesn't iran launch more sea mines?
>>2904810Was it ever under Iran's control?
>>2904822If Iraqis want to overthrow the regime it becomes a resistance state against color revolution
Otherwise it's a comprador state that isn't REAL islamic resistance o algo
did it reached the bump limit?
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