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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<South America edition



The American question is: how does a settler-imperialist nation transform itself into a decolonized socialist commonwealth without either reproducing the imperial form or fragmenting into balkanized enclaves that allow capital to reconstitute, while resolving the contradictions of internal colonization and liberating its external colonies, therefore using the empire's collapse to accelerate material conditions to enable the global revolution?


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Previous Thread: >>2906307

9 confirmed CPUSA members have been deported by ICE as of 2026

>>2909442
Is CPUSAnon in the list?

>>2909452
We can hope

So what are the chances of a revolution in the US in the next 5 years

>>2909459
The Catholic Church is historically progressive and must be critically supported against zio-evangeliSSm.


>>2909474
Wrong. Christianity was historically progressive and the Catholic church is one of the major steongholds of anti-imperialist resistance in places like Latinx America, Palestine and Lebanon against zio-evangeliKKKal reaction.

>>2909442
>>2909444
>>2909452
>Anti-CPUSA types are Pro-ICE
Imagine my shock.

>>2909442
They should deport the ACP instead

We know you’re some Haz fanboy using a bot to LARP as characters. Fuck off

immortal truke

>>2909483
>Lenin is immortal because he was hecking manifesting a revolution

>>2909483
Notice the divide in their relation to the means of production. Swamp communist, bring a communist, is an actual wage worker in the industrial sector. The “anarchist turtle” by contrast makes a living e-begging and prostituting himself, a decadent parasitic fascist of the worst sort

>>2909496
factory status?

Honestly think if a US revolution is to succeed it needs to take inspiration from Mao and the form of a Protracted People's War.
Portland anarchist meth addicts won't defeat the government. You won't radicalise the masses by running an LA based Marxist book club or a New York vegan cafe.
You need socialists to move to where the struggle and poverty is worst, out in deepest Appalachia, in the deep South, in the Midwest rust belt.
Get to helping the local communities out there, earning their trust, educating the locals on class struggle gradually by example not lectures.
If there's class war in the US it will begin in West Virginia and Mississippi.
Don't think rural people are stupid, can't be revolutionaries, they've just been abandoned to the forces of reaction because most "socialists" don't want to engage with real rural poverty because it's hard work and requires more than book reading.


From the desk of Jack wilimos:”according to Carolina journal at least 4.7% of North Carolinans would be willing to vote for me. nThis shows the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism can win in this senate race.”

>>2909499
Issue is that rural people have been shrinking in number and they're also really fucking old. You don't have millions of young and angry proletarians in the countryside like you used to, so it'd be the first senior citizens revolution. Meanwhile urban people are too fake and gay for it.

>>2909499
Those people aren’t Hakka peasants, they don’t grow their own food, what are you gonna do to literally feed and clothe your insurgency? Rob the dollar general at gunpoint before ending up on youtube bodycam footage?

>>2909465
10% but from the right.
0% from everywhere else.

>>2909483
Bringing Lenin into this is dumb because there is no revolutionary essence in modern america. There is nothing proscriptive. Nobody wants to do x. What they want if for the elite to stop doing x which never makes it past popular discontent stage. The American Revolution at the very least had a clear prescriptive goal: independence. Good luck finding a "what is to be done" in modern America a sizeable chunk of the country agrees on.

>>2909507
>There is nothing proscriptive.
<Prescriptive I meant
Goddamn my grammar is dying

>>2909503
>You don't have millions of young and angry proletarians in the countryside
Simply untrue, and right now they're being indoctrinated by MAGA
>>2909504
>they don’t grow their own food, what are you gonna do to literally feed and clothe your insurgency?
Do you think food is grown in the cities? You think something like another CHAZ could grow their own food?

>>2909510
Okay so you’re gonna take over the local tyson plant until all the petit bourgeois farmers stop feeding your facility product and it’s getting bombed by state police. That’s not a plan

>>2909512
>getting bombed by state police
Is there a revolution where they won't do this?

>>2909520
Yes. If there is a fascist coup d'etat.

Thoughts on Templar Martin and his Catholic monarchism hes influencing the us
https://youtube.com/@templar.martin?si=EC-a-vygy-AofQ59
He seems pretty reactionary if you ask me

>>2909510
>>2909512
Proles in the American countryside have been able to be relatively food-independent before and they can be relatively food-independent again. Inherent to the work of reconsitituting the Party in such a way that it has revolutionary potential is going to the rural masses, ensuring that they have what they need, and educating them along the way.

>>2909529
And they will remain deeply reactionary if we don't educate and serve them. They are being lied to by the bourgeoisie and this is not a difficult thing to demonstrate to them. Even their local bourgeoisie: the large employers, the megachurch pastors, the people who own the land half the town works and/or lives on, are despicable dishonest people who can only maintain their power by driving the masses insane with conspiracy theories about how the Queen of England is a lizard person. Our class enemies have put a lot of effort into keeping the rural masses from class consciousness. This only makes it more important to struggle with them and integrate ourselves among them.

>>2909459
trvke

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Honkoid status?

>>2909528
>Proles in the American countryside have been able to be relatively food-independent before and they can be relatively food-independent again.
such would indicate reversing the development of centralization of production which is very difficult

happening

how long until leftypol shuts down

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thoughts? comments?

>>2909546
Yes, we must undertake a very large amount of very difficult work. A People's War capable of winning and holding territory could probably not be instigated for another decade at the very least. Before every progressive revolution in history, the masses have been deeply reactionary until they were educated and until revolutionary ideas were able to reach them.

>>2909552
>People's War
larp city

>>2909539
>Honkoid status?

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someone make an iran thread

>>2909553
Protracted poopoo peepee war


>>2909556
>someone make a nothingburger thread
nah

>>2909557
giga says this

>>2909550
I think aFD will win in 2029 since ther is no left in Germany even worse then in the USA I’d say
>>2909553
Shut the fuck up no larp here
>>2909556
>>2909559
Theres a Ukraine war thread doe why not for Iran?

>>2909561
>Theres a Ukraine war thread doe why not for Iran?
i am of the opinion that there should be a single /nothingburger general/ where all that shit is contained

>>2909561
maoist roleplayers aren't getting the war they jerk themselves off over until america gets invaded by a more technologically advanced superpower, so maybe in a few hundred years after the oceans boil away all the ice and the world is radically different

>>2909564
Do this
>>2909565
Maoists are basically mls that Dont like China and mls are the only way so…. The USA will become communist and I like encircling the cities especially in America that’s a great idea

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burger status?


>>2909553
Are you even a Marxist if you don't take the idea of revolution seriously?

>>2909575
Ok
>>2909571
Burger level: pickle

>>2909577
revolution is of course inevitable, but without a universal external enemy like the invading japanese it won't be arriving in the form of a peoples war, with these present circumstances and with our level of capitalistic development revolution is most likely to sprout from being on the losing side of an global imperialist war

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WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS YOURUBE IS FUCKING RUINING THE UK WHST THE FUUUUCK also the video is relevant
TRIANGLEGATE

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>>2909596
this basically means that if you think you're going to be having a revolt in some rural region it's basically just asking for the Berlin Volkssturm as a revolutionary force

like over a quarter of people in even the youngest areas are over 65 America is just a senile gerontocracy rn

>>2909465
The most "revolution" you will see is a Huey Long movement and even that is unlikely but crazier things have happen

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they just found nazis hibernating in antarctica(THERE ARE FEDERAL AGENTS OUTSIDE YOUR HOUSE)

>>2909597
It's not just the US, it's most of the first, and even second world. Humanity is aging.

>>2909499
>>2909503
>>2909504
>>2909510
>>2909512
>>2909528
>>2909566

Why the fuck are there so many larpers today? Why are you trying to encircle cities which hold the vast majority of communist sympathizers while also over focusing on the most reactionary parts of the country? Why are you asking stupid questions about food security like agriculture is still run by long lines of experienced farmers and not fucking robots and corps.

>>2909611
Why are people pretending 40s-50s and even 60s can't protest or fight? You would swear that after 30 no one would fight and you are one foot in the grave

>>2909617
This is America

>>2909615
They believe that rural people are more moral and haven't degenerated like the city.

>>2909620
Then they really shouldn’t be dictating any strategy then due to their moralism. And honestly, I don’t think they’ve been paying attention to the current state of rural communities at all either.

>>2909615
Because rural areas most oppressed and you need them in a civil war and Im not like some Maoist position th is even Naz thinks this most communist think this also rural areas the most poor way less lumpen’s then in cities Theres so many good reasons to encircle the cities no larps here

>>2909627
Bullshit, rural areas in the US are resorts for the rich and more or less retirement homes

>>2909627
>Because rural areas most oppressed
That doesn’t make them worthwhile or useful either
>you need them in a civil war
Name one reason
>also rural areas the most poor way less lumpen’s
Where the hell do you think cops, militia folk, and military service members come from? You know, the main people sent to squash a revolution?
>Theres so many good reasons to encircle the cities
Name one

The supposed “food” you’re starving the cities of is cornslop in a “ppw” situation. This isn’t to mention the current ongoing ppws are completely military failures that are dying out, naxalites and the NPA have fucking terrible reputations in India and the Philippines, that’s not even necessarily their fault but it’s the objective reality on the ground.

>>2909630
>rural areas in the US are resorts for the rich
So the black belt, Indian reservations and rural Appalachia are resorts for the rich I guess. These takes is why the left has went extinct in rural areas because you stereotyped the rural larp of a country life by suburbanites vs the actual inhabitants in rural areas.

>>2909617
The old folks are usually more motivated by nostalgia slop than anything else. The far right is able to make inroads with these groups simply by saying "we're gonna make the country go back to the way it wus"
And yes, as the Ukraine war has shown, middle aged folks absolutely can fight. But not as well as twenty somethings can.

>>2909634
>black belt
Includes urban areas
>Indian reservations
A clear exception
>rural Appalachia
Better described as a heavily exploited locale that still harbors bourgeois enclaves.

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>>2909617
Future ACW cavalry.

>>2909550
>Lusotropicalism

>>2909477
>nooooooOooooOOoooO don't hecking deport the spic scabs
why not? its what kim jong un and stalin would have done. no AES country is for open borders, libtard

>>2909634
Why do rural people need out of touch urban PMCs to organize them.

>>2909642
> its what kim jong un and stalin would have do

Are they in the room with us right now or are they six feet under

>>2909505
thats a coup

>>2909643
>urban PMCs

>>2909642
Kill yourself reactionary

>>2909539
It should be called the spacy

>>2909634
The coalition of minorities will never take power

>>2909656
Source?

>>2909661
All the history of the united states leading up to this point, if the white majority masses are the enemy, the battle is already over and you’ve lost. Not to mention the actual historical subject here is the haute bourgeois, the proletariat since the new deal has been fully domesticated.

>>2909642
shut up /pol/

>>2909664
>white majority masses
>Not to mention the actual historical subject here is the haute bourgeois
You sound like a chud

>>2909453
>>2909452
>>2909442
chat, is this samefagging? I couldn't find evidence of the claim.

>>2909668
I’d like communism but that doesn’t mean there’s any route to get it here outside of JDPON naval landings or wholesale state collapse first.

>>2909669
redtext happeningspammer always does htis

>>2909671
Definitely a chud

>>2909673
Where’s the proletariat then? It’s not here

>>2909630
That’s only white settlers in some areas of the west
>>2909632
If you only have cities tge capitalists can encircle the cities them being opposed means THEYRE more revolutionary and rural areas arent just your average gated Texan community and if your just in a city they can easily siege it
>>2909640
Not every rural American is like this

>>2909676
And before I get banned for dubious reasons, by proletariat I mean people that have jobs and also nothing to lose. Everyone has something to lose, you have your job to lose, your family, your access to millions of hours of entertainment.


>>2909680
Posting here is a vent that keeps you pacified, the internet is the real life version of the samizdat

>>2909678
>If you only have cities tge capitalists can encircle the cities
You are advocating for exclusive focus on rural revolution. If an American town gets encircled, that is even worse, especially when consider the poor conditions they’re generally in. There’s not much to hold in an American compared to a city. And on top of this, you actually have to convince them in the first place to join a revolutionary movement in the first place.
>rural areas arent just your average gated Texan community
You’re right. They’re generally worse.


>>2909685
You’re choosing to shut your brain off, I get it, that feels good, I do it all the time

>>2909642
If communist leader does x it is good. If capitalist leader does x it is bad. Never forget this again leftychud.

>>2909617
once you hit 40 in america you can't survive without a constant drip feed of medication

>>2909688
The country is way too overmedicated on rat poison.

>>2909689
If anything we’re undermedicated for all the poison in the food, air, and water

>>2909690
>>2909689
It is simultaneously both

>>2909684
No im advocating for the urban and rural only pol pot beleive it’s only the rural
Rural areas are wore very poor


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