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>>2920330>>2922728AI bubble collapse status?
>>2922730he's reading the room re:billionaires like himself and trying to shift the focus to do something about them away from his sort of property
>>2922729well to my limited economic knowledge they are either doing this to send a likely false impression to investors ("we have so much cash that outstrips our need for capital expenditure look!") or they are compensating shareholders in ways the stock won't. so status: it's still happening probably
>>2922735bro doesn't realize wages fall proportional to the cheapening of the workers standard of living (housing)
>>2922735the only reason the gov't created all that section 8 housing was to house negros. if you removed all non-whites from this country, housing would be affordable again. and that's just the tip of the quality of life iceberg.
(Moshi moshi baitu desu) >>2922745all the housing would be bought by real estate speculators
>>2922745You are very stupid, and do not understand the process of gentrification in the slightest
>>2922748>>2922749>>2922751>>2922752please stop replying to obvious retards, unless you call them out for what they are: retards. just insult them and move on.
>>2922755I really hope he either tries to fuck with the midterms or the next presidential election to stay in power. It would be very fitting for Trump to be the last American president.
>>2922756Why would either of that be the end of America? George W Bush literally stole both elections and nothing happened besides some bitching
>>2922755It's one banana Michael, what could it cost, 2 billion dollars?
>>2922767tbf lenin referred to georgism as a pure and ideally perfect form of capitalism
>>2922755Friendly reminder I will be voting for this reincarnation of Lenin. Although he kinda reminds me of the caricature of Stalin more.
No man has done more for Communism than Trump. Not even Xi. Jesus is Xi, St. Paul is Trump.
>>2922789If by communism you mean democrats and obama nostalgia
>>2922809
This meme has been stale since 2017
>>2922782>a pure and ideally perfect form of capitalismThere is no such thing. All parts of the capitalist mode of production are plagued by contradictions that can only end with the complete replacement of the capitalist mode with the communist mode.
>>2922816yes and advanced capitalism gets you to the end quicker than inferior capitalism that takes hundreds of years to conclude itself
>>2922821Advanced capitalism ends in fascism with technocratic characteristics.
There is a reason so many feudal and primitive capitalist societies switched to communism and why no advanced capitalism switched to communism but all have switched to variying flavors of fascism.
>>2922831Good.
Foreign aid benefits nobody except the very few.
>>2922832Define "fascism".
>>2922834Authoritarianism operated for the objective of preserving economic hierarchy and the private ownership of the means of production.
>>2922834fascism is when annoying people insist on letypol that no definition of fascism is correct and nothing is ever fascism
>>2922842fascism is the result of liberal capitalism when rate of profit goes bust.
>wars of extinction are retarded, expensive and counter-productive in building wealthcapitalism isn't about building wealth you doofus.
>>2922842And what if the peasants can't / no longer want to work?
You do realize that fascism comes when capitalism is in crisis right?
>>2922847When does fascism leave
>>2922839So how is this different from literally all of capitalism?
>>2922841Correction: fascism is when le bad thing
>>2922845Define "liberalism"
>>2922851Unless destroyed by outside, usually fascism leads to internal bonapartist struggles as various factions amass capital they are not able to freely dispense with leading to tension with the state. Same thing that happened in feudalism with the tension between the aristocracy and the merchant guild. It should be noted that fascism does give out treats and gibs to the plebs as part of the revolution-staving strategy so there is some populism ready to be in conflict with the owner class. Privatization usually follows and we are back in neoliberalism.
>>2922846>capitalism isn't about building wealth the shit i read on leftypol
>And what if the peasants can't / no longer want to work?the eastern europeans were perfectly able to work and produce value at gunpoint, instead the nazis chose to throw away that massive pool of exploitable labor in the name of retarded race science and because fascism is retarded
>You do realize that fascism comes when capitalism is in crisis right?doesn't refute the fact that its a regressive form of capitalism compared to liberalism
>>2922853The ideology of the bourgeoisie and capitalism that supplanted feudal ideologies.
>>2922853Capitalism in general does not need authoritarian mechanisms beyond the general public order / military because there is free entropy to be generated. This means if there is room for growth, increments to wealth keep the system going. But when things start to slow down, the Tocqueville effect kicks in. Revolution happens not because things are unchangingly bad, but because they are not getting better fast enough. Under this stress, class antagonisms develop really fast and a fight for social surplus leads to revolution, usually from various elite circles, thus prompting crackdowns from the state. This begins fascism.
>>2922858>ideology of the bourgeoisieAnd what does this entail?
>capitalismSo Liberalism is capitalism itself?
>>2922855I never denied it is regressive. I stated it is the conclusion of advanced capitalism.
>>2922859So fascism is "authoritarian" capitalism, basically?
And what makes a government "authoritarian" in particular?
Fascism its not real. Capitalism gets violent and rabid in a crisis and people make up random names for it to frame it as something different from what it is. Its basically
>capitalism is a good boy, that country went bad because it went fascist
>>2922855i mean sinbad with his entropy nonsense is an idiot but you look even more retarded with your idealist gibberish.
>>2922863all you can do is JAQ off and negate the definitions of others. you could never come up with your own definition. that's what makes these conversations boring. all you people ever do is show up and go "umm ackshually that's wrong" by questioning the definition of every word until everything is meaningless. it's an easy trick.
>>2922860>And what does this entail?Rule of capital over rule of divine mandate, heavier emphasis on the prevalence of private property, death of the commons, the continuous ending of obligations to their subjects, mass industrialization, mass proletarianization, globalization, desire for endless growth, greater emphasis for nationalism and the nation
>>2922863To put it simply and avoid wordiness that comes with describing the Unspeakable Suchness(tm).
Yes, you could say it basically is authoritarian capitalism. It would also be correct to say it is authoritarian liberalism.
The authoritarianism comes with the suspension of rights and freedoms promised by capitalism/liberalism in the name of saving it. The more suspensions and exceptions, the more authoritarian it is. Usually things cascade after a critical point is reached. Also, at some point the public supports the authoritarian measures and you can say that point is when fascism is complete in hegemony.
>>2922869I tend to make stupid people cry. My bad. Plox forgibs me.
>>2922861there was nothing advanced about Chilean capitalism or Finnish capitalism on the eve of their fascist takeovers, you are too deterministic
>>2922869any actual arguments?
>>2922871>So Liberalism is capitalism itselfNo
>>2922870My definition of Fascism is a political movement established from Giovanni Gentile and Benito แดuแดlossnW from 1919 onwards, which in its practical aspect, resisted labour unions, the same as the National Socialists in Germany. The policies of the state were a continuation of war with an emphasis on patriotism. The ideas concern a "totalitarian" conception of man who is only himself as part of the state; it is a perspective which promotes "action" as a motto, the same as what was emblematic of the BUF in England.
>>2922871>globalization>nationalismIs this not a contradiction?
>>2922874>authoritarian liberalismSo what is "Liberalism"?
>suspension of rights and freedoms Such as? What rights are revoked in Fascist regimes?
>>2922855Fascism is liberalism btw
>>2922876Not sure about Finland, but Chile was the result of foreign intervention.
Even Italy's fascism sprouted from the developed industrial center of Milan before taking over the rest of the country.
>>2922876why should i put forth 'arguments' when you started this dicsussion by taking
>Advanced capitalism ends in fascism with technocratic characteristics.to mean 'advanced' in a technical sense instead of a temporal one.
'Advanced' in this sentence isn't a statement of value or judgement but objective fact.
>>2922887>Is this not a contradiction?Also no
>>2922887>demands others define fascism>Can't even provide a definition with substance himselfb8
>>2922895to be fair he did it after I bothered him about it
>>2922887>My definition of Fascism is a political movement established from Giovanni Gentile and Benito แดuแดlossnW from 1919 onwards, which in its practical aspect, resisted labour unions, the same as the National Socialists in Germany. The policies of the state were a continuation of war with an emphasis on patriotism. The ideas concern a "totalitarian" conception of man who is only himself as part of the state; it is a perspective which promotes "action" as a motto, the same as what was emblematic of the BUF in England. Maybe it would be better if nothing existed
>>2922893Howso?
How can one be both a globalist and a nationalist?
>>2922895What exactly do you disagree with in my definition of Fascism?
>>2922888>Fascism is liberalism btwnot quite. the removes the historical character of 20th century fascism by backwards-projecting it onto all post enlightenment history.
>>2922888bait
>>2922889and japanese fascism was spearheaded by the military. clearly this ideology is a bit more complicated than simply whats going on in the economic sphere. we're not talking about simple pokemon evolutions lmao
>>2922892are you confused? read the discussion again, I never said those words
>>2922887>So what is "Liberalism"?Idealistic fiction that came out of the late renaissance which prescribed certain features to humans and their relationships rooted in the concept of abstract freedoms.
>>2922887>Such as? What rights are revoked in Fascist regimes?Are you actually going to ask me this?
>>2922899I don't understand, how is it not a direct line, a clear continuation of the ideology?
>>2922899Name literally any aspect of fascism that wasnโt already embedded in US liberalism, Napoleon Bonaparte, or Simon Bolivar (besides industrial capacity). You literally canโt.
Ideology itself is bourgeois, I mean every ideology
>>2922901>prescribed certain features to humans and their relationships rooted in the concept of abstract freedomsRight, so liberal-ism is freedom-ism, per the etymology.
And what are the contents of these "abstract freedoms" which you appear to reject?
>Are you actually going to ask me this?I already did ask you.
If the US subtracted one's freedom to [x], it is more "authoritarian" in your view, but does that also make it more Fascist? Is there something particular to Fascist repression?
>>2922900>and japanese fascism was spearheaded by the military.The japanese military was an economy class of its own.
In fact, two classes.
The army and the navy both having different economic bases and objectives.
All your counterexamples are exceptions that prove the rule.
>>2922898>How can one be both a globalist and a nationalistBy being like America, and spreading global influence and global connections while acting like youโre the best and prizing the state over the proletariat
>>2922904the difference is who is the target. colonialism targets the periphery while fascism is brought home to the metropole.
>>2922899correct
>>2922904irrelevant distinctions to distract from the point, that fascism has the capacity to arrive in many different forms and from different sections of society
>>2922909>>2922905So, is "globalism" simply a proxy for imperial hegemony?
So to say, there can be no authentic globalism so long as there are nations?
>>2922910But how does that make it a distinct ideology completely separate from a classification of liberalism?
>>2922904>genghis khan killed and enslaved lots of people like the roman emperors therefore genghis khan was a roman emperorthis is the consequence of your logic of applying terms ahistorically. if fascism has no historical bounding to the 20th century, it can be backwards projected onto the entire history. any word can have its definition stretched to encompass the entire universe of squished down to mean nothing. When a word becomes synonymous with "everything" or "nothing" it can no longer denote anything specific which it was originally intended to denote. words are tools for carving out meaning and fascism is one of those words. It's like when people say christians sharing stuff with each other is socialism. 555 come on now.
>>2922914>how does the proletariat targeting the bourgeoisie make communism a different form of violence from the bourgeoisie targeting the proletariatwe can reword your question to show its absurdity.
>>2922907>And what are the contents of these "abstract freedoms" which you appear to reject?Negative Freedoms which were not part of human life until the 1600's.
>All humans were born equal>Freedom of religion>Freedom of press>Utilitarianism
<inb4 Positive Freedoms?they were implicit by virtue of having a good ruler and nothing official so these are not a problem.
I reject human rights as a concept because they involve prescriptive behavior that differs from place to place and time to time. Just let people live their lives and not go on crusades to liberate everyone.
>>2922915Whatโs the meaningful difference to any slave who their master is?
>>2922916If these are the same point, sure. Do you want to be more direct? If the ideological justification for fascism is liberalism, then fascism is a subsect of liberalism, and not a distinct ideological entity.
>>2922904nazi germany had four year plans. has america ever had a four year plan?
>>2922922The US was a planned economy during the civil war and in WWII
>>2922924so no, america has never had a four year plan, got it
>>2922913>So, is "globalism" simply a proxy for imperial hegemonyGlobalism is simply the process of treating the rest of the world as a sphere of political and economic influence.
>So to say, there can be no authentic globalism so long as there are nations?The true opposition to nationalism is internationalism. Authentic globalism already exists.
>>2922925Both wars lasted four years and the US not only had a planned economy but won those wars, so it counts
>>2922932What the fuck is a cyber force? A guy in tacticool gear on his phone next to the booth?
>>2922933It's a fancy way of referring to cybersecurity I think, except any civilian aspects of our cybersecurity programs have been completely gutted leaving just a military one directly controlled by Hegseth. So in short, expect vooting shenanigans
>>2922935I donโt expect the dems to do anything should there be vooting shenanigans, they werenโt willing to shoot anyone when George W Bush stole the presidency not once but twice and theyโve only gotten more cowardly and institutional norms pilled since then. Fuck I hate Obama.
>>2922936We'll see, it's been a crazy few years so I'm not counting anything out
>>2922938The Peopleโs Republic of China for most of its history
>>2922940Think theyโre just talking about the subordination of the bourgeoisie
>>2922940The Prc is literally a multiparty bourgeois democracy and always has been, it was to the point where Mao called it โnew democracyโ
>>2922942need better bait than this
>>2922943Was Mexico under PRI not a bourgeois democracy? How about Japan with the LDP? Thatโs what the PRC is
>>2922947>Japan with the LDPi said BETTER bait not worse
>ctrl+f treasury>0 ResultsNobody talking about how expensive credit is going to tank US economy? 10 Year Treasury yield is at a 20 year high, mortgage rates trail that so nobody is buying massively overpriced homes to pay two grand to the bank every month.
>>2922831>foreign "aid">look inside>predatory loans >>2922948Keep believing in that 2050 thinking in centuries nonsense like the good little Christian you are
>>2922919the master who is farther away is harder to kill. the master who is kind serves as an apologist for the system. every difference has some kind of weight to consider.
>>2922922get the fuck out of my conversation you wrecking ass glowie
>>2922888>Fascism is liberalism btw>>2922920>then fascism is a subsect of liberalism,did you go to the ministry of goalposts moving to get that approved?
what is new in the free world?
>>2922958>what is new in the free world?Supreme Court allows expanded Homeland Security database to purge voter rolls ahead of midterm electionsOn Friday, September 25, the US Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration can utilize an expanded Department of Homeland Security (DHS) database of citizens and noncitizens alike, to carry out a March 2025 Trump executive order aimed at purging state voter rolls.
In an unsigned order, the right-wing majority on the court granted the administrationโs emergency request for a stay of a lower court injunction that had blocked the database on the grounds that it violates privacy rights laid down in the 1935 Social Security Act and the Privacy Act of 1974. The latter law, enacted in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, prohibits โformal or de facto databanksโ or โcentralized federal information systemsโ built from sensitive personal data.
In the name of blocking non-citizens from votingโa virtually non-existent phenomenonโTrump ordered a massive expansion of a 40-year-old database known as Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE). The data system has been used by state governments to check the eligibility of residents for certain social benefits. Trumpโs 2025 order expanded SAVE to include natural-born citizensโ records, access Social Security Administration information, and allow state and local officials to conduct bulk searches, rather than only individual checks.
The additional data contained in Social Security files includes personal information about hundreds of millions of Americans: full names, Social Security numbers, dates and places of birth, citizenship indicators and death records, according to a notice in the Federal Register.
Under the executive order, state and local officials can request that DHS run lists of potential voters through the expanded SAVE system and flag names that are not listed as citizens. Social Security records are notoriously inaccurate when it comes to updating the status of naturalized citizens.
As a result, just five weeks before the November 3 midterm elections, with early voting having already begun in many states, the Supreme Court ruling could enable Republican officials to run multiple checks of voters in Democratic precincts, flagging hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of suspected โillegalโ voters and preventing many of them from casting ballots.
This is not a remote threat. The Trump administration is widely hated, its poll numbers are at record lows, the Iran war is massively unpopular, and soaring prices for gas, rents, mortgages, healthcare and consumer goods all point to a political debacle for the Republican Party in November. Trump is openly working either to rig the elections, block them altogether or overturn the results.
The Democrats, far more fearful of an eruption of mass opposition by the working class than the prospect of a presidential dictatorship, are doing nothing more than wringing their hands and filing court suits. They are completely opposed to any popular mobilization to defend the right to vote.
The September 25 Supreme Court ruling has the character of an interim decision. The court has not ruled on the legality of the March 2025 executive order and expansion of SAVE, which is still being litigated. It has thus far only lifted the block imposed by the lower courts.
In June, a US district judge in Washington D.C. blocked the administration from allowing states to use the online system to screen their voting rolls. Judge Sparkle L. Sooknanan, appointed by Biden, found that federal agencies โhaphazardly combined and repurposed the private information of millions of Americans, including citizenship data that they knew to be unreliable.โ She concluded that the expanded database โtrampled on the privacy rights of American citizens in a manner that threatens the sacred right to vote.โ
Earlier in September, the US Court of Appeals for the First Circuit rejected the Trump administrationโs emergency appeal for a stay of the D.C. court ruling.
The plaintiffsโthe League of Women Voters, its Virginia and Louisiana chapters, and the Electronic Privacy Information Centerโcompared the expanded database to the surveillance dossiers in George Orwellโs 1984. Following the ruling they issued a statement warning that the court had put โmillions of Americans at risk of being unlawfully targeted by the administrationโs unreliable voter purge database weeks before the midterm elections.โ
In their ruling, the majority on the court citedโillegitimatelyโa 1996 anti-immigration law signed by Democratic President Bill Clinton (the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act) as their authority for overriding the privacy protections included in the Social Security Act and the Privacy Act of 1974.
Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson issued a dissent that was joined by the other two liberal justicesโElena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor. Jackson wrote:
The harm caused by burdening or disenfranchising even a few lawful voters outweighs the nonexistent harm that the government experiences when it is prevented from taking an action that it likely lacks the authority to take.
She said the court should have left intact the lower court order that blocked the system while litigation proceeds. Jackson also commented that because of a federal law barring major changes in voter rolls in the 90 days leading up to an election, the ruling was likely to have โminimal short-term impact.โ
While it may be technically correct, Jacksonโs observation assumes that officials in Republican-run states will abide by the 90-day rule, rather than claiming that Trumpโs executive order takes precedence. Also, the 90-day rule would not bar post-election challenges to the legitimacy of the vote, such as the refusal of the House, presently under Republican control, to seat newly elected Democrats on January 3, 2027, when the House will convene to certify the election results.
In its argument before the Supreme Court, the Justice Department claimed that the expanded SAVE system is legal because it is a voluntary tool, to be used at the discretion of state and local officials. In fact, the DHS has sought to force states to run their voter rolls through SAVE by conditioning federal disaster and anti-terrorism funding on the databaseโs use. And earlier this year, Homeland Security Secretary Markwayne Mullin threatened election officials with criminal charges if they do not use SAVE. He said:
The states who choose not to participate with the SAVE program and they choose not to participate in secure elections, we will make sure that we make those states a priority to look at who voted in their states and will hold them, the election officials, accountable.
>>2922963cool cool cool
despite this the reps will lose but the dems won't reverse it once they get in
>>2922917So would you say that abstract freedom is a "false" proposition?
It posits "rights" which humans do not actually possess, and therefore they should be rejected? You suggest instead of a universal program, a particular program of governments. Practically, does this mean deconstructing global bodies like the UN and NATO?
>>2922968and chuds will be like
<despite all this cheating we still lost, that must mean they cheated harderso libs taking the high road literally just makes them look like more competent villains, which objectively they are.
>>2922954theres nothing incorrect about that statement
well the one thing we know FOR SURE and that EVERYONE agrees on is that the USA today right now is fascist
>>2922951>muh CCP runs like le LDP in NihonChina is a socialist democracy whether you like it or not
>>2922995But the Party's "businesses" are state owned. So taken literally this says "start a state owned enterprise". Why do Westoids immediately fail to make that connection and assume it means purely private?
>>2922995china needs to learn from the true inheritors of dengism: the USA
>>2922996congratulations you've discovered China is state capitalist
>>2923004State capitalism is the first stage of communism.
>>2923008with 0 historic precedent cope
>>2922970Mostly yes. We should stop harping about natural inailenable rights and instead make them practically evident. Also international bodies are serving imperial objectives and should be changed or scrapped.
>>2923011All successful communist revolutions did so. Are you a bordigafag?
>>2923012>We should stop harping about natural inailenable rights and instead make them practically evidentWhat does this mean?
>>2922955No, that was always my position. "The very foundation of interhuman discourse is misunderstanding" etc
>>2923008I know that's what was theorized but how do we know for certain if no one has successfully transitioned away from state capitalism?
>>2923015>"successful" communist revolution>failed to produce communismnow this is just retard thinking
>>2923048This is even about Jew hatred it's about Israel. The adl considers anti Zionism advocacy to be antisemitism in their stats about antisemitism
>>2923044based zohran per usual
>>2923044MLM ultra maoist tnakies wokescolds absolutely btfo. they are pissing shitting shaking crying AND cumming uncontrollably.
truly /leftypol/'s mayor.
what does /usapol/ think of brazillians claiming the US is preparing to invade brazil?
>>2923058Legitimate fear. But they probably won't do anything about. Neither will Americans but Brazilians should really up there defenses at least the ones who aren't trying to sell out their country.
>>2923058between outright invasion vs just interference i think the latter is more likely. but invasion is still very likely given how reckless the USA has become
>>2923058>invading brasil before cubadelusional
>>2923008The first stage of communism is communism
>>2923071lmao this is why you don't even try to appease them
>>2923064invasions in latin america are never explicit. you are not going to get a televised declaration of war and the usa military officially moving in and engaging the brasilian military. they'll send in covert death squads as they do. and then we'll all be discussing semantics whether or not it counts as an official invasion. fox news and every first response on a xeet stating its an invasion will be like "ummm no actually thats not a real invasoin according tohqwonsvjneri" as the entire world is once again forced to play dumb play along with the USA charade. we all know what an invasion is we all know what a war is we all know what a genocide is. but the most insufferable pathetic pedantic sub mentals will post. post like there's no tomorrow
>Zoran tries to appease the Zionists
>they still hate him anyway because it was always about Israel
Is he ever going to learn his lesson and stop trying to play this game with them? They will not be satisfied with anything less than fellating Bibi, you have to just tell them to fuck off. And fire Tisch already.
>>2923076america is straight up not making moves on brasil before cuba are you fucking retarded
>>2923080it already has. you are fucking retarded.
>>2923084That's my position on this whole thing. One the one hand it's annoying that he keeps bothering to throw bones to them, but every time he does the Zionist lobby increasingly shows its whole ass as the schizophrenic crybabies they are to the normies
>>2923089>it already hassource?
>>2922719Juliaโs speech(based on Ted Kennedyโs speech in the 1980 DNC) continued:
We note that it is important to take the issues seriously, but n3v3r tak3 ours3lv35 too s3r1ou5ly.
Our party is a few months old, but is at the vanguard of modern North American Marxist-Leninist thought. Proudly following the line of Marx Engels, Henry Clay, Vladimir Lenin,enver hoxha.
>>2923110apologize to the accelerationist trump-voters
>>2923113pretty sure the GOP is more than a few months old
Our cause has been the same as Marx and Engels communist league, the cause of the common man and common woman.
>>2923128>common womanno such thing.
women are vampires who leech off the salaries of their husbands without doing any work themselves.
how is this different from what the bourgeoisie does?
youre blinded by liberal identity politics, preventing you to realize that women are the true enemy of the working class
Our commitment has been just like enver hoxhaโs is to what he called the working class. On this we have defined our values, refined our policies and refreshed our lives.
>>2923078He has no lesson to learn because what he is doing is intentional.
>>2923135white people are fucking morons ive been getting free gas since 2003
>>2923139why do you think marx said "working
men of all countries unite"?
because women are bourgeois.
>>2922992so you can just waste the time of 50k lawyers over and over and charge the ADL insane amounts of money?
>>2923144this is cover for the fact that ai development is slowing down because LLMs have reached their natural limit, models havent really gotten better the last few months, diminishing returns
>>2923144Shits fake
Their suped up speak and spell tried to hack several government agencies and none of them are in trouble? This is just to boost their stock again
>>2923160>LLMs have reached their natural limit, models havent really gotten better the last few months, diminishing returnsthe chinese will break the limits again in a few months, release it for free, and then the seething west will try to hide it inside proprietary models again
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/6117672-hegseth-plans-pentagon-leadership-cuts/ Hegseth to cut 20 percent of admirals, generals in major Pentagon overhaul They aren't quitting fast enough! Coup incoming?
>>2923135she was probably using an app to pay
>>2923078>you have to just tell them to fuck off. And fire Tisch already.he doesn't wanna end up with cement shoes
>>2923044https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/27/dhs-awards-94-million-grants-help-protect-512-jewish-faith-based-organizationsDHS Awards $94 Million in Grants to Help Protect 512 Jewish Faith-Based Organizations from Targeted Violence and Terrorismhttps://advocacy.ou.org/fact-sheet-federal-and-state-security-funding-for-synagogues-jewish-day-schools-other-houses-of-worship-and-nonprofit-organizations/https://www.axios.com/2026/09/12/jewish-security-spending-holy-daysJewish institutions' security spending in U.S. tops $1 billionhttps://wjla.com/news/local/maryland-religious-institutions-receive-86m-for-security>More than $8.6 million in federal funding is going to 49 religious institutions and community centers across Maryland to help strengthen security.
>Among the Maryland recipients are Chabad Lubavitch of Bowie, Charles E. Smith Jewish Day School, Congregation Bโnai Tzedek, Kehilat Pardes, McLean Bible Church in Montgomery County, Beth Sholom Congregation of Frederick, Camp Airy, Beth Tfiloh Congregation and The Cathedral of Mary Our Queen.
>Ron Halber, CEO of the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington, said the grant program has become more flexible in how organizations can use the money.
> โNumber one is the amount of money. And two, is that the procedures have been liberalized. So it used to be you had it maxed, it used to be it could only be used for physical but now we appreciate the fact that the federal government has loosened the restrictions. If you need it to pay personnel, pay off duty police fine, if you need it for bollards to protect against a car bomb, or if you need it for protecting windows to make sure that they are shatter proof. Thereโs a lot of flexibility.โA billi a year just to protect Jews in this country. The price of antisemitism is TOO DAMN HIGH!
https://forward.com/fast-forward/203059/jewish-groups-get-94-of-homeland-security-grants/Jewish Groups Get 94% of Homeland Security GrantsAt this rate, antisemitism will bankrupt America.
>>2923165as long as they get their pensions and cushy positions in the MIC, they won't give a fuck
>>2923044>>2922992https://nypost.com/2026/09/29/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-plan-to-fight-antisemitism-ignores-zionism-refuses-to-define-anti-jewish-hate/
>Mayor Zohran Mamdani rolled out his plan to fight antisemitism Tuesday โ but still refuses to adopt a formal definition of anti-Jewish hate or acknowledge Israel as a Jewish state.
>Hizzoner formally announced his blueprint for a growing issue plaguing the city late Tuesday morning, leaving many in the Jewish community left scratching their heads after noticing a glaring omission in the 33-page report โ Zionism is never mentioned.
>โI sat with the Mayorโs Office to Combat Antisemitism in July and told them what Jewish teachers and families need: a definition of the hate, an honest reckoning with anti-Zionism, and real security for synagogues and schools,โ said Moshe Spern, the president of United Jewish Teachers. โWhat the mayor announced today does none of that.
>โQuoting the Talmud while refusing to name Zionism, and putting $1 million in security across every house of worship in New York City, is not a strategy. It is a disappointment.โ
>The adminโs strategy, which is largely a pared-down version of ex-Mayor Eric Adamsโ policy framework released last year, invests $26 million in the Office for the Prevention of Hate Crimes, another $6.4 million for the Partners Against the Hate grants, along with $1 million in security.
>It also appoints a Title VI coordinator to help address bias in K-12 schools and helps arrange NYC school trips to the Jewish Heritage Museum to educate students on the groupโs history. Both were pushed for by the City Council.Thank god the kids are still taking the yearly trips to the antisemitism museum. One of our finest American traditions.
>Moshe Davis, founding Executive Director of the Mayorโs Office to Combat Antisemitism, gave credit to the admin for following some of his recommendations, but says โit seems to make a conscious effort to erase the connection between the violence against Jews we are seeing in our city and the anti-Israel propaganda clearly fueling it.โ
>โA report on antisemitism that ignores what is driving much of the hate and violence against Jews is tone-deaf and dangerous,โ he added.
>โThough Zionism is not an endorsement of a particular Israeli government or political agenda, we cannot ignore that attacking or excluding โZionistsโ can and has become a convenient way to disguise antisemitism as political disagreement.โ
>Inna Vernikov (R-Brooklyn), co-chair of the councilโs Task Force to Combat Antisemitism, piled on over the notable exclusion.
>โThe Mayorโs plan to combat Antisemitism fails to address one key question: How do we combat the hateful rhetoric that rolls out of the Mayorโs own mouthโand the violence against Jewish New Yorkers he is fueling?โ >>2923182I watch this video in its entirety every time it's posted. It's so good, almost makes me want to become a soc dem
>>2923090Eyup. Why should he put in effort to undermine them when it is more efficient and more fun to goad them into going into overdrive doing it themselves?
>>2923182cucked by nationalism smh
>>2923153>s.i A late tribute to Mr. Vaneigem?
Anyways, now I take the unusual step of carrying the cause and commitment of our campaign to this board. Which the vast majority of North Carolinians will unfortunately not read.
I speak out of a deep belief in the ideals of this party and a potential senator of that party making a difference.
>>2923199It's so fitting that the dumbest presidency is leaning so hard into faux-2000s nostalgia aesthetics
Anyone know anything about the Maoist Communist Union (MCU)???
>>2923153>>2923199How long can the
AI SI pump and dump last?
>>2923236It's anything to save Open AI from bankruptcy at this point.
>>2923199They could've called it Awesome Intelligence or something stupid
>>2923237It's a disaster in slow motion. Almost half of S&P 500 by market cap is AI at this point. It's a trillion dollar bet that somehow someone will be able to pull ahead and be able to provide value that Chinese models on hundred grand server rack can't. OpenAI IPO will probably be the turning point. It'll be a bloodbath of privileged investors dumping their bags on retail.
>>2923236The stock market is 100% artifical. Like 90% of stock is owned by like 600 rich people. Who are all just pumping and dumping their own companies. Even if one of their "investments" go under theyll short it ahead of time, their failed company goes bankrupt and all debts are cleared. They strip sell all the assets and then get a bailout.
>>2923153Artificial Intelligence vs Natural Stupidity
>>2923153>age of abundance That leads to communism in any way.
>>2923241And what's even funnier is that not even the only economic time bomb ticking right now. There are multiple going on right now and any one of them going off will trigger the others.
>>2923257asmongoloid finally got a gf but hes still unhappy
>>2923260>asmongoloid finally got a gf HOLY SUICIDEFUEL. Its actually so over for me.
>>2923261i imagine anyone could get a girlfriend if they were a millionaire and famous
>>2923261Heโs a internet famous millionaire. Chill out.
>>2923261Don't do it comrade, shes only with him for his money and says hes super gross
>>2923261>>2923266>>2923269She's also clearly an Americanized Gusano woman, so she clearly has negative respect for herself
>>2923266her makeup makes her look like a porcelain doll. really creepy imo. im sure shes an attractive woman but that makeup is a no from me ← my professional opinion as an incel imageboard user
>>2923268did he not get the memo its called SI now?
>>2923275>Jesus and Mary Magdalene ironically an apt comparison
It gets to the point when he's creating new initiatives to pump millions of dollars to bolster the security detail on West Bank land sales, not even as a result of any residual incumbent policy, that you have to say, 'I guess this guy really sold us out, huh.'
I dunno what it is, but I like that Zohran, he's just so relatable and, uh, 'scuse me a sec, something's slapping my ass–OH GOD HE'S FUCKING US!!!! HE'S FUCKING US!!!!
Zohran is a communist hero because he made thousands lose faith in electoralism for good
>>2923198Bibi might make it by a hair
>>2923404>If you fell for this guy you have zero ability to judge character. I don't think anybody ever projected a more obviously fake persona in modern US politics100% agree but cope addicts will call you a chud for this
>>2923410sadly this disillusionment rarely translates into anything else, socdems just suck the life out any emerging leftist thing and then you need to wait 10 years for movement to shows signs of life again, then the cycle repeats
leftists will cry about how you are le hecking purity testing or whatever for not supporting them but when these retards market liberalism as socialism then lots of people just check out, socdems are the biggest wreckers on the left
>>2923410The liberals/socdems are all gonna forget about this at best and at worst they are going to embrace zionism because they are cucked to elected officials.
>>2922730True, landleeches are accelerating the collapse of capitalism
>>2922731Landleeching may need to be killed off to prolong the life of the capitalist system
>>2923266>>2923269He likely die young and she can spend all his money
>>2923428Nevermind, Zohran is now based again because he has angered the most reactionary of classes
>>2923418>sadly this disillusionment rarely translates into anything elseWe live in different times.
>>2923423Israel is in a pit. Weโre fine, really.
>>2923439Theyโre just saying the quiet part out loud huh
>>2923439They didnโt mention socialism
>>2923444Of late, since Mamdani went in for State-ownership of industrial establishments, a kind of spurious Socialism has arisen, degenerating, now and again, into something of flunkyism, that without more ado declares all State-ownership, even of the Mamdanian sort, to be socialistic. Certainly, if the taking over by the State of the silicon industry is socialistic, then Trump must be numbered among the founders of Socialism.
>>2923447>Mamdani went in for State-ownership of industrial establishmentsmamdani has not done that, thobeit
>>2923428does the state even lose money with the stores or does it not take up any tax dollars?
Menshevik Mayor
>>2923488I can only hope this makes people that do genuinely care about antisemitism realize that these institutions do not give a FUCK about antisemitism or Jews in america at all actually.
>>2923414I really wonder what the liberal zionists here in America do if he wins again (or attempts to seize power)? They seem to have put all their eggs into the "this was all Bibi's fault but he'll be gone soon and everything can go back to normal" basket. I just can't imagine what the new cope will be.
>>2923509are treatlers perhaps revolutionary? ๐ง
>>2923512What do you mean? They don't really give a shit, if they did they wouldn't be doing their hasbara shit even while Netanyahu has been in power for like 20 years
>>2923518I know that, I'm talking about the liberal media in the US which clearly wants americans to stop paying attention to everything once Bibi is gone. They think they can rebuild the perception of israel in america by blaming everything on Bibi while his successor tries to do all the same stuff in a less blatant way.
>>2923515What Young Marx actually thought about personal wealth and standard of living:
<A house may be large or small; as long as the neighboring houses are likewise small, it satisfies all social requirement for a residence. But let there arise next to the little house a palace, and the little house shrinks to a hut. The little house now makes it clear that its inmate has no social position at all to maintain, or but a very insignificant one; and however high it may shoot up in the course of civilization, if the neighboring palace rises in equal or even in greater measure, the occupant of the relatively little house will always find himself more uncomfortable, more dissatisfied, more cramped within his four walls. An appreciable rise in wages presupposes a rapid growth of productive capital. Rapid growth of productive capital calls forth just as rapid a growth of wealth, of luxury, of social needs and social pleasures. Therefore, although the pleasures of the labourer have increased, the social gratification which they afford has fallen in comparison with the increased pleasures of the capitalist, which are inaccessible to the worker, in comparison with the stage of development of society in general. Our wants and pleasures have their origin in society; we therefore measure them in relation to society; we do not measure them in relation to the objects which serve for their gratification. Since they are of a social nature, they are of a relative nature. - Karl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital (1847), Chapter 6
Basically he is saying that being well-off isn't just about what you have, it's also about what everyone else has. If your income goes up but rich people's wealth increases much faster, you may actually feel poorer compared with them. Humans naturally compare themselves with other people, so our idea of what we need depends partly on the society we live in.
<The thoughts of every piece of private property as such are at least turned against richer private property in the form of envy and the desire to level everything down; hence these feelings in fact constitute the essence of competition. The crude communist is merely the culmination of this envy and desire to level down on the basis of a preconceived minimum. It has a definite, limited measure. How little this abolition of private property is a true appropriation is shown by the abstract negation of the entire world of culture and civilization, and the return to the unnatural simplicity of the poor, unrefined man who has no needs and who has not yet even reached the stage of private property, let alone gone beyond it. (For crude communism) the community is simply a community of labor and equality of wages, which are paid out by the communal capital, the community as universal capitalist. Both sides of the relation are raised to an unimaginary universality โ labor as the condition in which everyone is placed and capital as the acknowledged universality and power of the community. [โฆ] The first positive abolition of private property โ crude communism โ is therefore only a manifestation of the vileness of private property trying to establish itself as the positive community. [โฆ] By reducing the worker's needs to the paltriest minimum necessary to maintain his physical existence and by reducing his activity to the most abstract mechanical movement. In so doing, the political economist declares that man has no other needs, either in the sphere of activity or in that of consumption. For even this life he calls human life and human existence. By taking as his standard โ his universal standard, in the sense that it applies to the mass of men โ the worst possible state of privation which life (existence) can know. He turns the worker into a being with neither needs nor senses and turn the worker's activity into a pure abstraction from all activity. Hence any luxury that the worker might enjoy is reprehensible, and anything that goes beyond the most abstract need โ either in the form of passive enjoyment or active expression โ appears to him as a luxury. - Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts, Third Manuscript, Private Property and Labor (1844)
Marx is pointing out that making everyone equally poor isn't real freedom. If you eliminate private property as an institution of class society, but give everyone only the bare minimum, you've solved inequality by making everyone live with less. Human beings need more than food and shelter, they also need culture, enjoyment, creativity, education, and opportunities to develop themselves.
Our idea of being well off depends partly on how other people live, and he thinks both extreme wealth and extreme attempts to eliminate personal property can reduce human freedom and satisfaction. Two different things can be true at once. Extreme inequality can make people dissatisfied even when their material lives improve. Simply making everyone materially equal isn't enough if people are denied the ability to develop themselves and enjoy life. Human well-being is more complicated than simply counting how many possessions someone has. A person can have more stuff than they had before and still feel relatively poor. And a society can make everyone materially equal without necessarily giving people a rich, fulfilling human life. This is why bourgeois propaganda about how you should be grateful because you have better medicine than a bronze age king or a lower mortality rate than a feudal peasant falls flat. People aren't comparing themselves with the past, not even the very wealthy people of the past. This is also why workers in the imperial core aren't comparing their standard of living with the workers of the periphery, instead they compare their standard of living with the wealthy from their own societies. It is more visible and more obvious. Nobody working at McDonalds in Alabama is going to say "I have it so good compared to a in Indian in New Delhi, I should be happy with this."
Now compare the Young Marx of these passages with the older Marx of Capital Volume 1, all you like, but also compare this Marx with the popular idea of Marx inherited through conservative criticism of Marx and the shortcomings of historical projects like the USSR. Those people believe in a Marx who thinks everyone is equally poor and the government owns everything and everyone in a permanent prison panopticon. Marx's actual writings are a 19th century critique of capitalism, alienation, class relations, and private property. Marxism developed by later thinkers like are related to this but not identical. Marx actually thinks โluxuryโ can be part of human development. Marx isn't simply arguing that equality = happiness.
>>2923534grrrrrrrrr you feed lumpen treats you are zionist you are imperialiast
just kidding good job man >>2923538we've had a lot more families coming through lately, which is forcing us to really optimize our set up because with the SNAP cuts, families are asking if we also have groceries, which we don't and if we want to build that we'll need to improve our infrastructure. Shit's bleak. Seeing kids come through the line is always a wake up call that this socialism shit really is life or death.
>>2923534you feed the poor instead of teaching him what to do to not be hungry. admirable, but no more revolutionary than what jesus did
>>2923534Good shit
>>2923542Feeding the poor is the first step towards getting them on your side. People remember the orgs that help them and which ones just moralize and hand out newspapers. Not saying mutual aid/charity/whatever is revolutionary in and of itself, or even a major component of a revolutionary movement, but visibly alleviating the suffering of the poor and destitute makes for good optics.
Plus, we're communists. A communist that cant make connections within his local community is far less valuable than one who can
>>2923534if you have suggestions for printable materials to distribute let me know
>>2923551this person's entire series is part of the materials we're going to be using!!
this is the exact stuff we need more of imo
>>2923545>Feeding the poor is the first step towards getting them on your sideyou want a revolution yet prioritize agitation among the poor lumpenproletariat as opposed to the educated sections of society that participate the most in it. perhaps this is why nothing happens here
>>2923555>every person who benefits from charitable organizations is le lumpenLazy take. And yes you need educated sections, you need both.
>>2923549show me how many soup kitchens the RSDLP were operating
>>2923555>muh lumpenhow do you know he's feeding "lumpen"? how do you know these aren't employed working class people who simply don't make enough to pay their bills? and even if they were unemployed I think the word "lumpen" gets overused. These aren't a bunch of thuggish traitors to the working class getting mobilized to break up strikes or beat up commuists. like come on man. you gotta pull your head outta your ass. marx tells us about the reserve army of labor, how people fall into it. I think that's a lot more useful and scientific of a concept than "lumpen lumpen lumpen"
>>2923559>here's my new goalpost, do a bunch of research for meno
>>2923559CPC did mutual aid and they rule China
>>2923560>how do you know he's feeding "lumpen"? Houdini is more than welcome to show us how many doctors or lawyers or professors are in his breadlines. until then just methany with 4 kids from down the street isn't going to cut it
>>2923563the chinese communists had entire school programs for adults for all sections of society that only existed because central authority in beijing broke down
>>2923567>Houdini is more than welcome to show us how many doctors or lawyers or professorson any other day of the week you'd be saying doctors lawyers and professors are petty bourgeois class traitors. today your bait is "everyone but doctors lawyers and professors are lumpen"
doesn't it get tiresome being this way?
>>2923542>no more revolutionary than what jesus didhey slow down, jesus took up a whip and scared moneylenders out of the 2nd temple
>>2923534You burnt the bottom of that apple cake.
>>2923580He was also enough of a problem for the Romans and their collaborators to execute him.
>>2923576>on any other day of the week you'd be saying doctors lawyers and professors are petty bourgeois class traitorsno i fucking wouldn't, castro and lenin were both lawyers, unfortunately for us its the radical petty bourgeois that'll end up leading the whole damn movement, which is why i think food kitchens are noble but petty work compared to the big work of agitation through marxist teaching. The lumpen are on our side, but they dont act, the most revolutionary thing they're capable of is accepting and not reacting negatively to the revolution that assumes control
>>2923534low kirkenuinely there should be multiple posts like this in /usapol/ from various people who are doing things, like a consistent stream of them
that's my challenge to you, the reader at home
>>2923503the leaders of pro-capitalist sentiment are openly malicious and sadistic and delusional and demented, flickering between hour-long rants on the antichrist, to extolling the virtues of cruelty and the sin of empathy, telling everyone that their AI is going to destroy the planet and doom humanity then raping townships to force them to house it.
>>2923582he predicted the second temple being destroyed 40 years in advance. either prophecy is real (idealism, anti-materialist) or the story was embellished after 70 CE by the early christian community (materialist). but the criteria of embarrassment shows that the jesus story contains many elements that nobody would make up if they were building a story from scratch, so there probably was a 1st century apocalyptic preacher who caused a ruckus in jerusalem and got crucified for it, and then the story got embellished later. problem is we don't know which parts are made up and which aren't. a materialist can guess that all the supernatural parts like resurrection and prophecies are made up, but among the plausible parts like getting baptized by john the baptist, casting the moneylenders out of the temple, giving the sermon on the mouht, the Sanhedrin trial, etc. it is hard to know which were actual events and which were made up afterwards. Some plausible events also seem very symbolic, like when Pontius Pilate brings out Jesus Christ, the preacher, and and Jesus Barabas, the violent rebel, and the crowd of Jerusalem chooses to release Jesus Barabas instead of Jesus Christ. Then Pontius Pilate washes his hands of the whole affair. What does that part of the story say about how the New Testament wants you to view the common people of Jerusalem, how it wants you to view the Roman governor, and how it wants you to view the two Jesuses, and what they embody?
>>2923503china is doing better than america and everyone knows cuba is sabotaged by embargoes, so "socialism is when no food" no longer works as easily as it did during the cold war.
>>2923594
antisemitism as in black hundreds or "antisemitism" as in people having the audacity to call out zionist war crimes?
>>2923588you are brave. i would never offer up proof of my real life actions to this cackling den of hyenas
>>2923584>the most revolutionary thing they're capable of is accepting and not reacting negatively to the revolution that assumes controlthen it's probably good to feed them LOL
>>2923597good has nothing to do with it. adventurism is good, insofar as it destroys a factory or kills a politician, but is it worth throwing away a professional revolutionaries valuable time or resources? No
https://www.courthousenews.com/11th-circuit-finds-fort-lauderdale-limits-on-food-sharing-in-parks-unconstitutional/food shares are protected by the 1st amendment, despite them still sometimes arresting people who do them (they can make you do the walk regardless)
Polfagโฌ๏ธ
>>2923602sorry anon you're not going to convince anyone to stop feeding the poor with this kind of nonsense. everyone finds you to be a laughing stock. people won't take up the book or the sword until they have a full belly. they'd sooner desert the army and forage for wild berries than fight without food. no army, proletarian or bourgeois, is stable without food.
>>2923606
you dodged the question
>antisemitism as in black hundreds or "antisemitism" as in people having the audacity to call out zionist war crimes?
answer it.
>Antizionism is antisemitism.
you and the zionists agree on this.
>You can't be prosemitic and against the one Jewish state in the world.
i'm not a fan of judaism or any religion and never have been. my understanding of zionism extends beyond seeing it as a purely "semitic" issue since there are christian zionists and hindu zionists and atheist zionists. even the statement "most zionists are jews" is false. most jews are zionists, but not most zionists are jews. most zionists are christian conservatives living in the united states. zionism started out as a project of bourgeois secular jews in the 19th century europe. it is a product of colonial europe, not at all dissimilar from antisemtism. in fact i would argue european antisemitism is the fuel for zionism since european antisemitism gave herzl his theory that european jewry was not welcome in europe and should go colonize some other land.
>>2923610>people won't take up the book or the sword until they have a full bellypretty sure the February revolution was initiated by starving women, which was then taken up and led by the rsdlp (which ran no soup kitchens btw)
>>2923615 The Russian army, war-weary, ill-equipped, dispirited and ill-disciplined, was disintegrating, with soldiers deserting in large numbers. By autumn 1917, an estimated two million men had unofficially left the army. Lenin and his Bolshevik party were promising "peace, land, and bread" under a communist system.
But you say giving poor people food is unimportant to rebellion because 12 years earlier… women rebelled when they had no food. Doesn't that just prove my point?
>muh RSDLP ran no soup kitchensin the 1912 Prague Conference Lenin said the following:
https://lenin.public-archives.com/en/L1848en.htmlThe famine affecting 20 million peasants in Russia once again shows the absolutely unbearable conditions of the peasant masses, crushed and oppressed by tsarism and the class of feudal landowners, conditions unimaginable in any civilised country of the world; The present famine once again confirms the failure of the government's agrarian policy and the impossibility of ensuring anything like normal bourgeois development in Russia so long as its policy in general, and its agrarian policy in particular, are directed by the class of feudal landowners who, through the parties of the Right, dominate the Third Duma, the Council of State, and circles at the Court of Nicholas II; The Black-Hundred parties (with the Markovs and similar people at the head), by their statements in the Duma and their attempts to lay the blame on the "loafing peasants" have so flaunted the shamelessness of the tsarist-landowner gang that is plundering Russia that the eyes of even the most ignorant are being opened, and indignation of even the most indifferent is being aroused; The actions of the government in hindering relief for the famine-stricken, the police interference with the Zemstvos, with the collectors of funds and the organisers of kitchen committees, etc., give rise to widespread dissatisfaction even among the bourgeoisie, and voices of protest are raised even among such backward and counter-revolutionary bourgeoisie as the Octobrists; The liberal-monarchist bourgeoisie, while helping in its press to inform the public of the famine and of the behaviour of the government, nevertheless, in the person of the Constitutional-Democrat Kutler in the Third Duma, adopted such a moderate-oppositional position that can, under no circumstances, satisfy democrats, any more than it is possible to accept the presentation of the question of relief for the famine-stricken as philanthropy, which is the way the majority of the liberals present it; Among the working class, despite the worsening of its economic position arising from the increasing numbers of starving and unemployed, a spontaneous desire is to be observed to collect funds to aid the starving and to help them in other ways. This desire natural to every democrat, to say nothing of a socialist, must be supported and furthered by all Social-Democrats in the spirit of class struggle; The Conference resolves that it is essential: To bend all efforts to extending propaganda and agitation among the broad masses of the population, and in particular among the peasantry, explaining the connection between the famine and tsarism and its entire policy; to distribute in the villages for agitational purposes the Duma speeches, not only of the Social-Democrats and Trudoviks, but even of such friends of the tsar as Markov the Second, and to popularise the political demands of Social-Democracyโin the first instance the overthrow of tsarist monarchy and the establishment of a democratic republic, followed by the confiscation of landed estates; To support the desire of the workers to aid the famineโstricken as far as possible, advising them to send their donations only to the Social-Democratic group in the Duma, to the workers' press, or to workers' cultural-educational and other associations, etc., and forming special nuclei of Social-Democrats and democrats upon their joining groups, committees or commissions for aid to the famine-stricken; To endeavour to give expression to the anger of the democratic masses aroused by the famine in demonstrations, mass meetings, and other forms that constitute the beginning of a revolutionary mass struggle against tsarism. >>2923612
it says its the Jewish forum; it's not a general debate. Although I agree that such a forum should primarily focus on Jews in America not in another country
The fact of the matter is that if youโre a Jew the chances of you being a genocidal Zionist is so close to 100% as to be a rounding error and weโre not going to make any progress until we stop being afraid of โmuh antisemitismโ
>>2923621>because 12 years earlierโฆ women rebelled when they had no food. The February revolution happened in 1917 my guy. Also the starving women of France initiated the French revolution, so you're not only misinformed but wrong on multiple points
>>2923617
who you quotin
>>2923615there's not an army in the world that doesn't have cooks
>>2923621lol i just messaged this to the mods of the deprogram subreddit
>feeding the people is liberal apologia but running a podcast and a streaming service is the real movement >>2923624I was thinking of 1905 but please ignore everything else i posted about lenin directly saying that the party needs to support the desire of workers to aid famine, which is what you've been shitting on this entire conversation
>>2923627god damn reddit is insufferable why even bother
>>2923628Yes, WORKERS
Not โdrug addicted freeloading citizens of the Reichโ
>>2923631my coworker said that i should post more from the food share because she gets a lot of content in her feed of streamers harassing the homeless
usually i only post on r/trueanon but figured i should spread out more and deprogram is another major leftist podcast (tho i don't listen to it)
>>2923632explain to me how a child is a free loader, if your program is against feeding the kids man what program do you have lmao bait used to be good
>>2923632when marx wrote capital he was studying the working class of england, the most imperialist country in the world. the workers in that country were often alcoholics, or addicted to laudanum, morphine, and opium. they were also often chronically unemployed due to the reserve army of labor. what's your point? that they should starve? like honestly get a grip weirdo.
>>2923634Children of class enemies are still class enemies. Or are you still crying over the Romanovs?
>>2923630
right now you're forcing everyone else to listen to your jewish kvetching about how antizionism is hecking antisemitic. you just add "and that's a good thing" to the end. it's the most retarded psy op of all time and nobody wants to even dignify it with a reply. be glad i had the patience to type this. now enjoy your ban. when you come back you can kvetch about how the jannies and users here are all zionist jews yet you refuse to just go to pol and stay there.
>>2923637posted from a basement in langley VA
>>2923637>children of working class people are the same as imperial herisok porky
>>2923628Famine effects all sections of society. america has an overabundance of food that only can't be accessed by the very poorest lumpen section of society. equating the two is silly
>>2923638Jews arenโt Semites, sorry Rabbi
>>2923645>america has an overabundance of food yeah if you consider flamin hot cheetos and deep fried oreos "food" and not the deliberate destruction of real food by turning it into junk in order to keep the prices of whole foods high by lowering its supply
>>2923647nice goalpost shift weirdo, get a life
>>2923649
the phrase "antisemitism czar" is the funniest shit of all time when you think about how the czars felt about jews
>>2923652
>>2923653
coordinated effort or samefag
>>2923650Itโs not a goalpost shot to acknowledge that Rabbinical Talmudists have cynically appropriated the legacy of Shem
>>2923664you've literally been baiting for more than an hour about how everyone who needs food is lumpen.
>>2923666
>jews can't stop talking about jews therefore i can't stop talking about jews
antisemites are the biggest zionists of all time
>>2923665NTA but if youโre living in the heart of the imperial core and youโre so inept that you canโt even find a scam or hustle to earn you a few thousand a week you are either actually retarded or just a chronic loser. Either way your existence is subsidized by the proletariat of the imperial periphery
>>2923669>NTA but if youโre living in the heart of the imperial core and youโre so inept that you canโt even find a scam or hustle to earn you a few thousand a week you are either actually retarded or just a chronic loser. first you say everyone who gets food aid is lumpen. now you are saying they are not being lumpen enough.
you are a loser and a troll. get a life.
anyway
see:
>when marx wrote capital he was studying the working class of england, the most imperialist country in the world. the workers in that country were often alcoholics, or addicted to laudanum, morphine, and opium. they were also often chronically unemployed due to the reserve army of labor. what's your point? that they should starve? like honestly get a grip weirdo. >>2923673My point is that first world lumpen can afford food very easily, they just choose not to work
>>2923671
we are all opposed to zionism and judaism here. you are preaching to the choir. you are preaching to the choir in such a way… let me put it this way. it is like you have run into the church, but naked, covered in shit, and stood next to the choir, and you have begun yelling about how much you love jesus, and your singing is very bad, and your lyrics reflect that you don't merely love jesus, but you want him to fuck you in your ass. that is the way in which you are preaching to the choir, capiche?
>>2923675
>if we all just think about jews hard enough, zionism will end
will it though.
>>2923678
hitler deported 60,000 petty bourgeois zionist settlers to palestine while executing every communist proletarian atheist jew he could get his hands on. that is why antisemites are zionist. incidentally "anticapitalists" are also often capitalists because they support social democratic reformism and not the real movement.
>>2923665not really what i said but Ok
>>2923676> first world lumpen can afford food very easilyyour point is that every parent and child getting food aid is a lumpen. that is how this conversation started.
>>2923677>we are all opposed to zionism and judaism herethats not true, there are plenty of zionism supporters here, they just pretend zionists are anti-zionists because they said "netanyahu bad" once
>>2923682
no my point was actually "remember that time the germans supported zionism while suppressing communism"
>>2923687
i am not jewish you fucking retard. i literally think judaism is a disgusting abrahamoid religion just like islam and chrisitianity
>>2923687
point is the europeans and americans and imperialists still sponsor zionism and the zionists agree with you that "antizionism is antisemitic" so fuck off.
>>2923691
>My only position is no more Jewish shit in America
yeah you've only been repeating yourself for one hour and calling everyone who tells you to stop spamming jewish
>>2923691
>my position is that the USAmerikkka government built on slavery and genocide and capitalism would be fine if it weren't so jewed up
would it though.
>>2923693
>people only say hitler was right because you pointed out hitler sponsored zionism
ahahhahahahahahahah the absolute mental gymnastics
>>2923698
>America is very friendly to religious cults. Just no more involvement with our government.
since when was the slavery genocide government "your" government? you seem to think so.
>>2923691
It's been entertaining watching your baby nazi brain try to grasp this issue but the other posters are right, this is getting repetitive and uninteresting
>>2923704
>I can say fuck them(except on leftypol)
2+2=4 (MODS WILL BAN ME FOR THIS)
>>2923706
>I don't want to be involved with you Jewish-Nazi game anymore.
just 2 more weeks of posting and they're finished
>>2923711
jews (why am i not allowed to say this) jews (why am i not allowed to say this) and furtheremore jews (why am i not allowed to say this)
>>2923705I donโt think the torture rape and murder of millions of gentile children is very risible, but perhaps Iโm just not sophisticated enough to understand Chosenite humor
>>2923713i thought you were just annoyed with zionism in your precious otherwise normal and cool US government, not reproducing nonsense about how jews in medieval times were bloodsucking vampires who raped christian children or whatever
>>2923715as if schizophrenics ever just suffer from a single delusion
>>2923715>i thought you were just annoyed with zionism in your precious otherwise normal and cool US government, not reproducing nonsense about how jews in medieval times were bloodsucking vampires who raped christian children or whateverThis is blood libel!
Why can't I as a inigenous uyghur of America just be free of whatever the Jews and Euros did in Europe or the Middle East or wherever? Why does this have to be my whole reality about what the Romans did to the Jews 2000 years ago or whatever the rest of the Euros did in those intervening years? Why? Fucking why!?
>>2923719Didn't the Protestants and Catholics kill each other way more than the Jews in Europe? Why is our whole reality based around this Jewish shit?
>>2923718are you capable of being genuine and not reproducing the boy-who-cried-wolf of your supposed enemies?
>>2923721Did you not literally reference "blood libel?"
>>2923719>Why can't I as a indigenous uyghur of America just be free of whatever the Jews and Euros did in Europe or the Middle East or wherever? Why does this have to be my whole reality about what the Romans did to the Jews 2000 years ago or whatever the rest of the Euros did in those intervening years? Why? Fucking why!?pick up a gun and start shooting the whites and jews then. the haitians did it in the 1790s. their revolution was the greatest of all time. the only successful slave revolution.
>>2923723>>2923724>This right hereThe most Jewish-White posts imaginable. Just because something hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it will never. We used to be your slaves too.
>>2923722actually i was responding to anon who inserted it into the conversation as bait here
>>2923697 >>2923725fuckin do it homie. i mean it. anything but having to listen to you cry until i die of old age.
>>2923727>fuckin do it homie. i mean it. anything but having to listen to you cry until i die of old age.The worst suffering that your people has ever faced.
>>2923718>>2923697>>2923722actual historical "blood libel" was european christians using accusations against jews raping children as an excuse to commit pogroms against entire jewish communities, men women and children. it's actually very similar to how entire communities of black people in the USA would be attacked or lynched because one black guy got accused of rape (see tulsa 1921) or how entire indigenous villages would get wiped out after one white guy got scaled or one white girl got kidnapped by tribal warriors. but when zionists today say "this is heckin blood libel" when anti-zionist activists make known the crimes of the zionist regime in israel, it is a bad faith and false comparison. it is a boy who cried wolf scenario. the boy cries wolf when there is no wolf. then when there actually is a wolf, nobody takes him seriously. so blood libel is weaponized in that way by the zionists. but that doesn't mean it wasn't a real historical thing. past injustices can be weaponized as an excuse to do current injustices. if you notice the weaponization is done in bad faith, that doesn't mean the historical thing it was based on didn't happen or was deserved. if you think that you are inserting an extra leap in logic that has no justification.
>>2923728>i assooom your demographicok
>>2923732Alright, thanks for correcting the record, but
>>2923719>Why can't I as a indigenous uyghur of America just be free of whatever the Jews and Euros did in Europe or the Middle East or wherever? Why does this have to be my whole reality about what the Romans did to the Jews 2000 years ago or whatever the rest of the Euros did in those intervening years? Why? Fucking why!?Let European beefs die in Europe, let African beefs die in Africa, let Asian beefs die in Asia. What the fuck does that have to do with America?
>>2923732Buddy even the Chosenites admit โmuh blood libelโ is based on reality, read Passovers of Blood by Ariel Toaff
>>2923733You are at least spiritually Judeo-Christian.
>>2923682>>2923697>pointing out how nazis deported jews to israel thus fueling zionism during ww2 is irrelevant because WW2 was "100 years ago" (actually it was 80)>proceeds to bring up medieval shitgod damn what a stupid conversation this has been
>>2923735if you read my post more carefully my point isn't that "jews dindu nuffin" my point is that "blood libel" was about how incidents of child abuse, real or imagined, were used as an excuse to do pogroms. just like how black or indigenous males in the USA committing rape, real or imagined, were used as an excuse to do basically the same thing. weaponizing real or imagined violence committed by individuals who are a member of a minority community as an excuse to persecute the entire community is also, incidentally, what israel does to palestinians. israel literally does "blood libel" against palestinians in the form of saying they raped babies on october 7th or threw them in ovens. none of that shit happened, but the point is that EVEN IF IT DID it does not justify killion thousands upon thousands of civilians in gaza. all over history you have sociopathic people, it does not matter what race religion or whatever they are. the point is, there are sociopathic people who do atrocities, but also weaponize atrocities as an excuse to do more atrocities. calling out zionist war crimes is not "blood libel" and in fact what the zionists do to palestinians (accusing them of shit real or imagined and then using it as an excuse to do collective punishment atrocities) is MUCH CLOSER to historical "blood libel"
>>2923736i just said abrahamoid religions are disgusting and should be done away with
>>2923734>Let European beefs die in Europe, let African beefs die in Africa, let Asian beefs die in Asia. What the fuck does that have to do with America?do you think politics ends at the border? do you think nations aren't interconnected? do you think everyone should just stay in their little ethnic enclave forever? you might be a zionist.
>>2923747What more do you want from me? I don't respect whatever Jewish shit you say, but I will fight and die for your right to say whatever Jewish.
>>2923747> Swing the chickens, cut the baby dicks. It's all goodactually circumcision should be illegal so you are even more "jewish" than I am (insofar as "jewish" is just a word you throw around whenever people disagree with you)
>>2923757>actually circumcision should be illegal so you are even more "jewish" than I am (insofar as "jewish" is just a word you throw around whenever people disagree with you)Now you are trying to antiesmite me? Yeah, the Jew-copy cats take it a step farther and circumcise the clits of baby girls. It is an evil thing.
>>2923758yeah we should get rid of these stupid practices like male and female genital mutiliation. nobody worth talking to would disagree with that . i would tell you to learn about superstructure and base but that is "jewish" science to you
>>2923763>yeah we should get rid of these stupid practices like male and female genital mutiliation. nobody worth talking to would disagree with that . i would tell you to learn about superstructure and base but that is "jewish" science to youMy lord, nobody can criticize Judaism without being "literally Hitler" to you.
>>2923763neither MGM nor FGM are actual problems worth spending time kvetching over
>>2923761Ain't this keich a Zionist?
>>2923765race ideology is hitler shit though
>>2923769I literally wrote Judaism, literally a name of a world religion and you somehow interpreted:
>race ideology >>2923563"Mutual Aid" as done so by western anarchists and succdems is cringe an ineffective. Cops routinely show up to spy on everyone. Feds show up to cause division. What non-western organizations like what the CPC did was basically centralized planning where much of the supply chain was coordinated among party members.
>>2923770So you're not racist?
>>2923772I have said that throughout this conversation. I am not even persecutory to the Jewish cult. I wish they can do whatever they want to do as long as it doesn't involve myself or my government.
>>2923747>My god, dude, how many times can I tell you I wish the Jewish people the right to do whatever Jewish shit their hearts can imagine. Swing the chickens, cut the baby dicks. It's all good. My objection is very s pecific and I wish the Jews stop Jewing our government. I wish the Jews stop Jewing our public schools and etc. This is a free country where you can be the Jewiest Jew that has ever been. You will never be pogromed. >>2923774Let me rephrase the question– do you believe race represents something real, tangible, or has a biological basis?
>>2923777Ok but those influences don't originate from the sneaky rabbis, the relationship between the Zionist and Anglo factions of the bourgeoisie in the West are rooted in historical economic relations dating back centuries.
>>2923778I hate crackers and jews and cracker jews. How many times can I say it?
>>2923779Right but that racial resentment will yield nothing unless there's also an understanding of the economic relations that established their dominance
>>2923780The economic relation is that I respect cracker jews as my superiors. I do not. I don't fuck you. I hope you all get syphilis ans die.
>>2923781this is why everyone thinks you're stupid. because you're just kind of acting like a silly fool who doesn't want to learn anything. grr crackers bad. grr jews bad. Ok… and?
>>2923782>this is why everyone thinks you're stupid. because you're just kind of acting like a silly fool who doesn't want to learn anything. grr crackers bad. grr jews bad. Okโฆ and?But you are bad, and everyone who isn't you thinks that.
>>2923781Bad faith and lazy. George Simmel has a great analysis of how the Jewish and Anglo alliance among the bourgeoisie formed in the 1700s from previous feudal relations. I highly advise you to consider the read, but you don't strike me as someone who really cares about truth more than your "emotional truth."
>>2923784>you are le joo cracker because i said so- grr crackers bad jews bad
- anyone who adds anything to that, even if they agree with you, is either a cracker or a jew or both
what is the point of having a conversation if you're just a robot who only has 2 responses. i am dumb for even TRYING to talk to you
>>2923786I'm trying to talk to you too. You will alternate into banning me in another second. I wonder why White people are so dedicated in defending Israel.
>>2923789I mean there is nothing that will appease you creatures. I say I respect the right of White people to exist and do White stuff, I respect the right of Jews to do Jewish stuff. I don't know, there is no pleasing you creatures.
>>2923789retard i'm not banning you
>grr u joo>grr u cracka>grr u ban meall you got is assumptions and repeating yourself
>>2923796I'm not assuming anything. I love Jews and Crackers.
>>2923790> I say I respect the right of White people to exist and do White stuff, I respect the right of Jews to do Jewish stuff.we need to abolish the very concept of whiteness and jewishness, but you think doing so is jewish and white
>>2923798>grr u joo>grr u cracker>grr u ban me<BUT I LOVE U i am not joo
iam not cracker
i do not ban you
you do not love me
>>2923801then why do you spend all day yapping about them
>jews are white, if not peak whiteso not real?
>>2923800What are you then? How are you this dedicated to the cause of Jews and Whites?
>>2923801>quotes zionists to prove antizionism is antisemtism>quotes south afrikkkan boer to prove jews are white>claims to hate le white jew hegemonythis is peak hotep behavior
>>2923801It involves the shit out of you actually
>>2923804>you are dedicated to a thing which you have repeatedly said should be abolishedyou just make shit up as you go along, schizo
>>2923805>this is peak hotep behaviorDamn Black Americans catching strays. This isn't a Jewish or Cracker person btw.
i finally get it. this dude is a hotep.
>retarded black conservative who epeats white supremacist and zionist talking points while claiming to be against them
>>2923809>i finally get it. this dude is a hotep. Yes exactly, it is right to hate Black Americans not Jews or Crackers.
Jews this Jews that, how about Jew seize the means of production
What do we do about the Hotep question?
>>2923811>keeps hallucinating shit nobody said or impliedyou hear what you want to hear
>>2923817laugh because they are the court jesters of politics
>>2923820I am against "hoteps" as much as the next Jew or Cracker. WTF are you talking about?
trolling white jews
cringe:
say hotep shit
based:
say minnesota was promised to somalia 3000 years ago
>>2923816they say the writing was too on the nose but this is exactly how poltards talk
>>2923804>What are you then?a human bean just like u
>please play along as i put words in your mouth some more
so finally jews good or bad?
what are you goyims talking about?
>>2923841Goyim culture slop
look kiddies let me tell you a story
cyrus saved jews from assyrians.
all of their temples built by persians, even their religion is massively influenced by us.
then we have *purim*, a historical situation that wife of xerxes who was jewish, faked an order from him to kill everyone who upraised against jews and killed near thousands of people and now it is a celebration that jews put meat in a bread and eat it as in they eating their persian enemies.
WE WERE THE RETARDS FOR HELPING THEM!!
assyrians did nothing wrong, you had no reason to build them shit, xerxes should never have married a jewish princess and now cyrus,look they're celebrating death of your descendants by hyperbolically eating them, not even mongols do that and they're still your country's biggest enemy.
that is our mistake and we should own it.
and about jewish conspiracy…if something happens and someone's take is "it's the jews", it usually true 8 from 10 of times.
>>2923845
white germans killed them how's that fault of every white person in existence?
and another whites called americans saved them
no one owes these motherfuckers anything.
https://america.gov/ask it to play minecraft
bro is really just hopping VPNs so he can derail all conversation to bitching about Jews, you simply hate to see it
God, imagine being a mod leftypol. The coolest motherfuckers in existence. Every day just hanging out in the matrix being estrogen sipping faggots. We are all so jealous.
>>2923855wtf why does it ask for my ssn
>>2923864This is a Judeo-Christian-Trans nation
>>2923863does anyone have the video of the chudjak logging in and getting banned because he says the n word despite clicking and agreeing the terms of service that say he can't say it and then the trans mods bans him and he screams and cries and his head explodes? shay used to post it alot.
>>2923887my enlisted friends are saying the military bureaucracy is very bloated.
So I'm torn between it being a good thing a lot of brains in the military is getting cut and it being a bad thing that it may be more efficient now.
>>2923887I guess only the police, ICE, and the occasional militia will be the only effective threats against revolution now.
Reminder that all religions are reactionary. Jews are not uniquely reactionary and pretty much every other major religion has commited an atrocity and had a reign of terror of some sort. Jews have just been the ones having their turn for some time, and some other religious group will have theirs until eventually religion goes away once and for all.
>>2923895Hmm on the contrary I'm thinking they might be doing this so they can use the military in a domestic manner, the first guys to get axed were the lawyers and shit as "rules of engagement" and "international law" are low testosterone or something
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/02/24/people-are-very-scared-trump-administration-purge-of-jag-officers-raises-legal-ethical-fears.html?ampReminds me of that movie Civil War where the president drone strikes some suburbs
>>2923896>Reminder that all religions are reactionary. Jews are not uniquely reactionary Yeah nobody is disputing that. In fact every poll will tell you atheists approve of Jews higher than Muslims and Christians.
>>2923900I've never understood that. People will either act like jews are uniquely reactionary or uniquely innocent amongst the other religions. But they're not uniquely anything.
>>2923902
>name another religion that hijacked a genocide against 20 million slavs and pretended it was all about them them them
russian nationalism
>>2923903
>everything is both good and bad
That's literally dialectics.
>>2923899>I'm thinking they might be doing this so they can use the military in a domestic mannerKinda, but not quite though. Trump wants his own SS, and is attempting to consolidate much of the military into ICE. Even police has been dealing with more competition from ICE.
>>2923909
dialectcs was developed in the west by literally Plato you fucking stupid mongrel
>>2923917
I've never banned you because I'm not a mod. You flatter me.
>>2923911
it's honestly hilarious Recess had this character in the 1997 after nick bougas had already made the happy merchant drawing in 1992. Maybe the ghost of Walt Disney possessed one of the Recess animators.
>>2923923Since they're all following his footsteps there's particles of him in each and every Disney movie even decades after his death. Disney is reactionary its time for a Fleischerian jihad.
>>2923891>my enlisted friends are saying the military bureaucracy is very bloated.I think so.
There's a shitload of paperwork and processes and bullshit that gets shoveled onto people and everyone in the layers of the bureaucracy are also trying to cover their ass at all times.
Weirdly was talking to a guy who served in the Dutch army in the 1980s who I run into sometimes while touching grass, and he thought that back then based on experiences training with the U.S. military. He was a helicopter pilot. It's like a situation where smaller, leaner militaries make do, like if a truck needs to be moved someone can just get in and drive it, but in the U.S. military it's like the bureaucracy requires a specific certification and training for that specific truck and if soldier doesn't have it so he's not doing it because he could also get in trouble. Or something like that.
>>2923432When I saw him gag while drinking water and chase it down with Dr Pepper I knew he wasnt going to last
Trump Pentagon launches competition for America's next great military base>Governors will compete to host the massive new military base designed to house up to 25K service members, Hegseth saidhttps://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pentagon-launches-competition-americas-next-great-military-base
<Secretary of War Pete Hegseth on Wednesday announced plans to build a modern, self-sustaining military fortress, saying the site will be selected through a merit-based competition among governors pitching their states as potential locations.
<The megaproject, dubbed the "Next Great American Base," was unveiled during an address at Marine Corps Base Quantico as part of Hegsethโs six strategies to modernize the military.
<The initiative rejects what Hegseth described as the legacy approach to spend heavily on advanced weapons systems while service members live on aging bases with outdated barracks.
<"For too long, our military has been bogged down by the same old tired Washington playbook: spending trillions on exquisite weapons systems, while our troops live in aging bases, outdated barracks, and with inadequate infrastructure. That era is over," Hegseth said.
<"To back up our warfighters, when we bring the troops home, we wonโt just reshuffle troops onto legacy posts. We are going to build them beautiful new bases from the ground up," he added.
<The ambitious undertaking will feature a brand-new military installation spanning hundreds of thousands of acres and housing up to 25,000 service members.
<"We are talking hundreds of thousands of acres with organic power generation, modern air defenses, and cutting edge technology โ a fortress," he said.
<The installation is expected to provide first-class living conditions, high-end training grounds and essential services such as health care and child care, while operating entirely off the commercial grid with independent power sources.
<Hegseth added that the base will support President Donald Trumpโs executive order on "Beautiful Civic Architecture," which calls for federal public buildings and military installations to be designed in timeless and classical styles.
<"We owe our warriors nothing less than the gold standard," Hegseth said.
<To determine the site location, the Department of War said it is launching a transparent, merit-based competition in which state governors can pitch their proposals directly to top military leadership at the Pentagon.
<The winning state will be chosen based on its ability to remove regulatory hurdles and bureaucracy to speed up construction, while offering the best package of land, community support, top-tier housing, schools and other services.
<"The state that cuts the most red tape and offers the best package of land and support will win the historic honor of hosting the most lethal, modern, and beautiful military installation on the planet," a press release stated.
<Pitch deliberations will be recorded and made public to eliminate "political favoritism," according to the Pentagon.
<"No backroom Washington deals. No political favoritism โ just a straight-up, merit-based contest to see which state will partner with us to build the most modern, beautiful, and lethal military installation on the planet," Hegseth said.
<The project is the fourth announcement among six major strategic initiatives unveiled by the secretary.
<According to the Department of War, the other initiatives focus on restoring male physical standards and combat roles, improving the comprehensive review of military standards, overhauling complaint processes, reforming senior leadership and focusing on core training and maintenance. Hegseth announces new autonomous weapons command while repeating attacks on โwokeโ culture during speech to troopshttps://www.cnn.com/2026/09/30/politics/hegseth-speaks-to-military<Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth announced a new Pentagon autonomous warfare command in a speech on Wednesday to troops at the military base in Quantico, Virginia, a sequel to the speech he delivered last year to senior officers that focused on fitness and culture.
<Hegseth said the new Autonomous Warfare Command, which will focus on AI robotics and autonomous weapons, will be led by a four-star general, a sign that it will have a key role in future military operations.
<โThe autonomous and robotic revolution has enormous implications for equipment, doctrine, organization, and the assumptions that have governed warfare for decades,โ Hegseth said. โLasting change must be anchored in military command structures.โ
<The Pentagon chief cited lessons learned from the war in Ukraine as motivation for the new command and said that a complementary effort known as Project Agincourt will work to clear the way for the new command and overhaul how the military acquires, tests, and fields drones and other similar weapons.
<A memo released by the Pentagon said that the new command aims to go online in October 2027.
<The speech also included Hegseth repeating a number of his past criticisms of military culture and saying that he had ordered further cuts to the ranks of senior officers to continue to remove โwokeโ policy.
<He doubled the percentage target for cutting general and flag officer positions in the ranks to 20%, up from a 10% reduction of generals and admirals he had directed in a May 2025 memo.
<Hegseth has fired more than two dozen senior officers across the military โโฏmany with little to no explanation, to the dismay of lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. The military services have also reduced the number of available four-star jobs, forcing some senior officers to leave the military.
<Frustration over the firings was in part responsible for the resignation of former Army Secretary Dan Driscoll. CNN previously reported that Driscoll โbrought up concerns with the administration surrounding Army transformation and readiness and Hegsethโs blocking those efforts specifically by firing the generals who were responsible,โ in his resignation.
<Some of the speechโs attendees included Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, and Palmer Luckey, founder and head of defense tech company Anduril. Hegseth announced that the three will chair a new future of warfare study group known as Project Meridian.
<Another set of initiatives laid out in Hegsethโs speech aim to modernize US bases and get them onto their own power grids, boost the resilience of defense supply chains, build reserves of key commodities like fuel and medicine, and solicit โpitchesโ from governors on where the Pentagon should build a new mid-sized military base to house up to 25,000 troops.
<The address comes on the anniversary of his September 30, 2025, speech at Quantico to many of the militaryโs generals and admirals. In that speech, Hegseth railed against what he described as โthe woke department,โ describing his preferred vision for how the military will look (no โfat troopsโ or โbeardosโ) and act. He said the Trump administration would โrip out the politicsโ of the Pentagon and that the โonly missionโ would be โwarfighting, preparing for war and preparing to win.โ
<Hegseth repeated many of those criticisms on Wednesday, while also using a slur to describe transgender service members as he outlined his continued efforts to reshape the force.
<โWe are no longer the woke department or the weak department,โ he said. โSimple translation of that: No fatties, no transhumanists, no beardos, no weirdos, no wimps, no radicals, just warriors, just tough, ready, committed troops.โ
<This yearโs attendance list was different. Hegsethโs office invited around 600 junior officers and noncommissioned officers โ lower-level leaders who carry out the day-to-day work of the military โ to attend Wednesdayโs event as his primary audience.
<In Wednesdayโs speech, he blasted the mediaโs coverage of US military operations, likening it to โtreasonโ while also conceding that a โfree pressโ is โimportant.โ
<As Hegseth listed his oft-aired grievances against the media, past Defense Department leadership, so-called โwokeโ military leaders and Ivy League universities โ the young leaders largely sat silently and stone-faced. The group included personnel from all branches of the military.
<The few moments of clearer reaction from the crowd came when Hegseth impersonated President Donald Trump, saying the kind of people needed in the military are those from โcentral casting,โ and when the room applauded for Deputy Secretary of Defense Steve Feinberg, who is overseeing an ambitious effort to revive Americaโs defense industrial base.
<Hegsethโs address leaned into the Christian religious messaging that has characterized much of his Pentagon stint. The secretary quoted Bible verses and detailed new reforms to the military chaplaincy intended to raise their profile within the Pentagon bureaucracy.
<โDecisions about faith and religion were made by secular careerists in cubicles and lawyers running around with red tape,โ he argued.
<The defense secretary also cited internal Pentagon data to say that 95% of the military โrecognizes an Almighty God,โ in seeming supporting his focus on the chaplaincy.
<One of the newly announced initiatives โ โAmericaโs Corps of Cadetsโ โ tapped Hillsdale College and Liberty University as new โDistinguished Military Collegesโ that will receive Pentagon resources to train new officers for the military. In addition to the two conservative-leaning Christian colleges, the initiative also includes Louisiana State University, Mississippi State University, and the historically Black Tuskegee University.
<Hegsethโs Wednesday speech also comes on the day US troops completed their withdrawal from Iraq. The move marked the end to the Iraq chapter of the US mission that launched in 2014 to combat ISIS as the terrorist group swept across the region, capturing major cities in Iraq and Syria. >>2923933it's an act. bro is white sambo
>>2923266Shitlibs and the online "left" often use not having a gf or being married as an insult yet the worst humans alive are either married or are promiscuous men.
So what exactly does leftypol have going on? How are you guys going to lead the revolution?
>>2923960What if I was sincerely concerned tho?
โThe stakes are highโ: Debate over trauma levels, readiness pits Methodist Healthcare vs. Brooke Army Medical Center https://archive.is/lb1SE<San Antonio officials, military leaders and local healthcare providers are fighting over how an upgraded Methodist Healthcare trauma center would impact Brooke Army Medical Center and its military medical readiness mission.<San Antonio is home to two Level I trauma centers able to handle the most complex injuries: University Hospital in the South Texas Medical Center and BAMC on the northeast side of town.<When Methodist Healthcare, the largest hospital system in San Antonio, proposed upgrading its flagship hospital in the South Texas Medical Center from from Level III to Level II trauma designation, officials from the City of San Antonio, military community and University Health expressed concern over how the change would impact BAMC and its ability to train military physicians.Prime example of San Antonio being an absolute shitshow of catering to the burger wehrmacht, in fact I think you can reasonably say the military has warped its very development, subbing in for a lack of dense industry in the classical sense and encouraging sprawl around the bases.
I believe I read about some of the troops that kidnapped Maduro getting treated at BAMC and I presume many of the ones getting blown to hell in the gulf as well.
Issue with fighting. the seared military USA branding is that people here get inoculated with vague patriotism from a young age, or at least viewing the military as "noble job provider". Also of course the fact that this is mostly the place where they do their training, not a ton of more direct combat operation stuff. Less easy to encourage them to desert or rebel due to sprawl discouraging more casual socialization outside of the one hit wonder that is downtown.
Idk maybe something can be developed where people here can disrupt the tourism industry. Last time that happened was in the late 60s/early 70s and that quickly petered out.
>>2923963So what is the deal with this?
>>2923953it's ok to be a lonely male anon
>>2923931>>2923891don't forget that a lot of this is just the US military being a huge fucking jobs program right now that is trying to keep money moving to create a middle class. Major military cutbacks in costs means that the entire US economy is going to suffer for it. It's all very stupid
>>2923887One step closer to collapse.
Real movement status?
>>2923887>DOGEing the military when youโre running out of missiles and losing a waraaaaahahahaha
>>2923928wow, communists. as old as the gospels.
>>2923996It's kinda what Stalin did before Barbarossa
>>2923934I officially apologize to Shillary Warhawk Clinton. This is exactly what a RuZZian agent would do to make the USA incapable of winning a peer conflict.
>>2924009Isaiah is old testament, which makes Kegbreath even dumber
>>2923953Itโs shorthand for calling you a coward.
>>2924020Bros voice is wavering I can hear it through the low quality audio
>>2924019>Isaiah is old testament, which makes Kegbreath even dumberThat is what we say "I'ma go Old Testament on your ass!" meaning I'm going to do some evil Jew shit. We call the crackers who love the OT "fire and brimstone" preachers.
>>2924031We love our wrathful Jewish god hear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torah_scrollThe Jew book is one of the most evilest things ever written. Yes Christians believe in it too. That is the main problem with Christianity. Christians try to overcome it by saying:
>but Jesus said some less evil shit! he was sent by the jew god to undo all the evil jew god did!But still you can go back to the evil Jew book and Jesus said:
>not one letter of the law will be rewritten! >>2924037Every Jewish holiday is celebrating the evil shit they did in the Jew book. I wish I could find this meme about them reading the passover or whatever scripture at their feast. It's all about:
>then we slaughtered all their babies for our evil Jew god. >>2924037Iron age and bronze age religions that preached genocide and dominance are dime-a-dozen. It feels like Judaism is special because it's still around long after those other religions died out. What's actually unique about judaism is how weirdly bookish, abstract and iconoclastic it was for its time. So for example When the Romans would conquer and genocide people like the Gauls, their chosen method for cultural genocide was the integration of foreign pantheons. If a foreign God had the same domain as say, Jupiter, they would say "oh you just worship Jupiter like we do, but under a different name." The subordination of the foreign God to the Roman god would then be "self evident." If the locals had a God that the Romans had no equivalent of, the Romans would just integrate that God into their pantheon. "Your God is now a Roman God." It was much harder to do this with the Jews. The Jews had a religion that was rooted in books, not statues, a religion that was actually against making "graven images." So the usual methods of subversion didn't work. Another thing that made it difficult was the abstract Monotheism. Jews started out polytheistic and having other Gods from the Canaanite pantheon, but they gradually either downgraded those Gods into lesser entities, or stopped believing in them entirely, until they eventually had a Monotheism. There was only one other time in history that Monotheism was independently invented, and that was by the Atenists in Egypt under Akhenaten. But that religion fell apart very quickly. Sigmund Freud, himself from a Jewish family, theorized that the Atenists fled Egypt into the Levant, and ended up creating Judaism after mixing with the locals, and that this is where we get the Exodus myth from. But that a fringe theory. Others point out that Satan didn't achieve his familiar mythological form until Jews had interactions with the Zoroastrians.
What is perhaps most innovative about Jewish theology however, is how they handle losing. If the Jews were conquered or even genocided by a foreign power, they did not conclude "Our God is not real." They instead concluded "We have sinned and our God is punishing us." This allowed them to reinterpret any historical outcome as God's will. This is what made their monotheism so ideologically flexible, and that's why it got passed on into Christianity, Islam, Bahai, Rastafarianism, Mormonism, etc.
>>2924052Have you read Julian the Apostate - Against the Gallileans?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_(emperor)He was the last non-Christian emperor of Rome. His book is so good. He covered ever fucking neckbeard anti-Christian argument 2000 years ago.
https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm>But that from the beginning God cared only for the Jews and that He chose them out as his portion, has been clearly asserted not only by Moses and Jesus but by Paul as well; though in Paul's case this is strange. For according to circumstances he keeps changing his views about God, as the polypus changes its colours to match the rocks,23 and now he insists that the Jews alone are God's portion, and then again, when he is trying to persuade the Hellenes to take sides with him, he says : "Do not think that he is the God of Jews only, but also of Gentiles : yea of Gentiles also." 24 Therefore it is fair to ask of Paul why God, if he was not the God of the Jews only but also of the Gentiles, sent the blessed gift of prophecy to the Jews in abundance and gave them Moses and the oil of anointing, and the prophets and the law and the incredible and monstrous elements in their myths? For you hear them crying aloud: "Man did eat angels' food." 25 And finally God sent unto them Jesus also, but unto us no prophet, no oil of anointing, no teacher, no herald to announce his love for man which should one day, though late, reach even unto us also. Nay he even looked on for myriads, or if you prefer, for thousands of years, while men in extreme ignorance served idols, as you call them, from where the sun rises to where he sets, yes and from North to South, save only that |345 little tribe which less than two thousand years before had settled in one part of Palestine. For if he is the God of all of us alike, and the creator of all, why did he neglect us? Wherefore it is natural to think that the God of the Hebrews was not the begetter of the whole universe with lordship over the Avhole, but rather, as I said before, that he is confined within limits, and that since his empire has bounds we must conceive of him as only one of the crowd of other gods. Then are we to pay further heed to you because you or one of your stock imagined the God of the universe, though in any case you attained only to a bare conception of Him? Is not all this partiality? God, you say, is a jealous God. But why is he so jealous, even avenging the sins of the fathers on the children? 26 >>2924037morality is relative and social progress is incremental. today's progressive woke ideas are tomorrow's outmoded conservativism. a book about human morality written 4000 years ago is not going to hold up to modern moral scrutiny, but it was ahead of its time if you consider the fact that most of the known world was ruled by huge empires where political rulers were literally worshipped as gods and nobility forced their own young children to fuck each other while they watched and had constant drunken child rape orgies in their epstein party mansions and peasants were deliberately kept in perpetual starvation by locking away all food in impenetrable fortress-like granaries and pouring all surplus wealth into extragant monuments and vanity projects and if a commoner dared to steal food or failed to meet quota or showed any signs of disobedience they would be mutilated, caned to death, or thrown into a pit full of crocodiles and eaten alive.
>>2924058https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/julian_apostate_galileans_1_text.htm>political rulers were literally worshipped as gods and nobility forced their own young children to fuck each other while they watched and had constant drunken child rape orgies in their epstein party mansions>But I will go back again to the question how God confounded their languages. The reason why he did so Moses has declared: namely, that God was afraid that if they should have one language and were of one mind, they would first construct for themselves a path to the heavens and then do some |353 mischief against him. But how he carried this out Moses does not say at all, but only that he first came down from heaven,—-because he could not, as it seems, do it from on high, without coming down to earth. But with respect to the existing differences in characters and customs, neither Moses nor anyone else has enlightened us. And yet among mankind the difference between the customs and the political constitutions of the nations is in every way greater than the difference in their language. <What Hellene, for instance, ever tells us that a man ought to marry his sister or his daughter or his mother? Yet in Persia this is accounted virtuous. >>2924059obviously the real issue at hand here isn't the religion but the empire. assuming that you are not of any religious persuasion and can agree that religious texts are not divinely inspired and do not originate from any deity but are purely human works which reflect the extant values and traditions and customs of human societies, then it follows that the society dictates the religion at least as much if not moreso than the other way around and that any society that grows into a large powerful empire through political conquest will naturally amend and revise its religion and interpretations thereof to account for and justify the empire. the jews never quite made it that far, they managed to build two modest-sized citystate kingdoms, israel and judah, and a few outlying settlements with a total population of about 300,000-500,000 at their peak and they were conquered and annihilated by the assyrian and babylonian empires which were orders of magnitude greater in size and had enormous wealth and vastly superior technology and military strength, the jews never had a chance.
one might now be inclined to try to make the argument that the modern-day nation state of israel with all of its right-wing nationalism and aggressive attempts at military expansion is some kind of successor to the ancient jewish kingdoms but i don't think they are really even comparable. modern-day israel's political and religious leaders obviously want very badly to connect their 21st century high-tech multicultural society to a sacked iron age society that existed thousands of years ago and formally declare it to be a "jewish state" but that's all just nationalist propaganda, nearly a third of their population are not jews and the ones who are jews are not really a unity or even a coalition, they are a fragmented and very tenuously-linked group of several different sects with divertse and often radically opposing views and values and customs and interpretations of the scripture, just as it is with any other major world religion. and as i said earlier, the society dictates the religion at least as much as the religion dictates the society - israeli far-right nationalists cherrypick whatever they can find in scripture that might legitimize their political efforts and they ignore or re-interpret whatever does not, just as it is with any other major world religion.
one thing that modern-day israel does have in common with the ancient jewish kingdoms is the fact that it is also a relatively small fish in a big pond, a tiny nation of around 10 million people with a gdp in the hundreds of billions in a world ruled by global empires with populations of hundreds of millions or billions of people and gdps in the tens of trillions of dollars, all of whom are armed with enough nuclear weapons to destroy the entire planet several times over. and the only reason modern-day israel even exists at all is because the western empires allowed it to and the only reason the israeli government's genocide of the palestinians is permitted is because western empires and multinational corporations profit from it. so in reality, the israeli government and its supporters and zionists in general are not really diabolical masterminds who rule the world, they are just toadies, useful idiots, middle-management. and eventually someway or another their lifeline to powerful foreign empires will be cut off and what happens after that will probably be very interesting to watch.
>>2924075there was no "palestine" in the middle east 2700 years ago. if you are referring to the philistines, there is no lineage between them and modern day palestinians, they were descended from mycenaean greeks and they were conquered and deported by nebuchadnezzar ii and their culture was wiped out. if you are referring to the canaanites, they culturally have nothing in common with modern day palestinians, everything the canaanites believed and practiced is considered abhorrent pagan idolatry by muslim palestinians, whatever genetic lineage there is between them is irrelevant. modern day palestinians probably have some ghenghis khan dna as well, are we going to say they're mongols now too?
>>2924084I said, "their book is all about how they invaded Palestine and genocided everyone there."
That is what their book is about, that's what they did in modern times, and that is the book they quote to justify it. In their promised land fairytale the invaded and genocided. I guess Jews are originally from Iraq if you consider Abraham the first Jew.
>>2924052>It feels like Judaism is special because it's still around long after those other religions died out.well you could argue that they live on through judaism, since judaism derived much of its ideas from its pagan predecessors and contemporaries. it's not like people just magically materialize ideas and information out of thin air, everyone stands on the shoulders of giants, everything is copied and mutated and amalgamated from something else.
>>2924090The hardcore Christians are the only ones who know about this shit. Their only reaction is:
>DAMN RIGHT WE DID!!!The Jew on the sticks done passed the torch to them.
>>2924112I love this Hitler quote:
>Why do we call the whole world's attention to the fact that we have no past? It's bad enough that the Romans were erecting great buildings when our forefathers were still living in mud huts; now Himmler is starting to dig up these villages of mud huts and enthusing over every potsherd and stone ax he finds. All we prove by that is that we were still throwing stone hatchets and crouching around open fires when Greece and Rome had already reached the highest stage of culture. We really should do our best to keep quiet about this past. Instead Himmler makes a great fuss about it all. The present-day Romans must be having a laugh at these revelations. >>2924112much of history is written by the empires and obviously very biased in favor of the empires which isn't so interesting to me, but if you go all the way back to the bronze age/early iron age middle east, the ancient jews were sort of an unusual exception to the rule because the dominant empires of the era only valued writing as a mundane tool for financial bookkeeping and political propaganda and deliberately kept most of the population illiterate to maintain social control, and they arrogantly believed that their sheer might and superiority and the gloriousness of their big dick cities and monuments would guarantee their legacy so there was no reason to record the truth of the world, the empire is the truth of the world and it will never die. i wonder what will be left of our arrogant idolatrous empire thousands of years from now for future civilizations to find and study. probably not much more than a rusty unfinished border wall and a whole lot of personal injury attorney billboards.
>>2924166pimp move if he disinvited all nation reps and just had Kallas over for a candlelight dinner
just more of the same good/bad cop dynamic wrt to US approach boxing in Europe
>>2924182the problem is europe literally can't put more funding into NATO without going broke, if you think the american bond market is bad just look at French or Italian bonds
>>2924185Ha ha! The lumpenprole cattle are shifting from one bourgeois party to another– total workers victory is imminent!
>>2924187>he thinks independents are an actual organized partyAI reply?
>>2924190Yes, yes! Just on more choice of bourgeois politicians is all we needed to liberate the masses
>>2924054julian kinda cooked with that passage so they probably don't teach it in sunday school lol
I didn't understand Black Nationalism for a long time. Now I have educated myself on it I understand it as a revolutionary ideology for an oppressed nation. My only criticism is that there should be culturally New Afrikan white people or otherwise participation becomes based off of skin colour, when really everyone should be made to participate.
>>2924218>New Afrikan nationdoesn't exist. Black Americans are the primary cultural driver of american working class identity, as opposed to the white culture dominating both working class and elite national identity pre 1970s. Blacks are the most american americans and lead the culture most representative and authentic of american culture spanning from LA to NYC, creating a nation out of thin air would be a direct downgrade for everyone involved. If this the 1930s I'd be agreeing with you
>>2924218>Nationalisminto the trash it goes
also
>revolutionary ideologykek
>>2924257Everyone in that picture is canadian thoughever
That one weird dude who was enamored with Christa Pike must be happy she survived her execution attempt.
>>2924275Honestly I don't understand what's the US's deal with death penalty execution. I mean I understand the concern about not causing useless suffering, but if they really want to make state sanctionned murder painless, then the key is speed. The prisoner won't suffer if they die before the pain can reach their brain.
>Some American officials, speaking privately since Carneyโs Strasbourg speech, suggest that in trying to build new bridges โ or, if you want, lay new subsea cables โ to Europe, and in failing to tamp down anti-American rhetoric in Canada, Carney is helping solidify the โruptureโ he says Trump started and raising questions about the future of the Canada-U.S. relationship.
>One, speaking on condition they not be identified, told the Star that if Canada wants to cede sovereignty to the EU, it should be careful what it wishes for when it aligns with the Europeans given the rise of nationalist, populist right-wing forces on that continent.https://archive.ph/zwQpT >>2924218Black nationalism doesn't make sense because there isn't really a "black nation." That's not to say black nationalists are counterrevolutionary or something, but it's not like you can conjure a national identity into existence. Many distinct black nations exist in the world, including outside of Africa, but there is no single generically black one. Populations of black people in the west are diffused over wide areas that don't connect, so trying to establish a nation out of those would be at best an uphill battle.
All this however is not to say that black people should settle for "a seat at the table" i.e. mere inclusion into a white (supremacist) society. Assimilation equals subordination, and nobody ought to face that. The challenge is constructing a new paradigm that suits the conditions of the "nation within a nation" which is not actually a nation at all, and it seems like there are natural allies in that struggle in indigenous peoples.
>>2924292Except the severed head keep living for like thrity seconds before death, so that's plenty of time to feel yourself fading.
I'd just shoot point blank in the cerebellum. Sure it won't be pretty, but death never is and people have to stop believing otherwise.
>>2924304Black nationalislm exists only insofar as White nationalism exists. They define and presuppose each other It's simply dialectics.
>>2924304Black Reservations complete with Black Nationalist themed casinos. Dare you play the Yakub themed slot machine?
>>2924304>Assimilation equals subordination, and nobody ought to face thatSo long as all american working class cultures are oppressed equally, assimilation is a good thing. American Jews are also being assimilated on a mass scale, this is what we want as socialists working towards the amalgamation of nations
Lenin:
<No one unobsessed by nationalist prejudices can fail to perceive that this process of assimilation of nations by capitalism means the greatest historical progress, the break down of hidebound national conservatism in the various backwoods, especially in backward countries like Russia.
<A rough idea of the scale which the general process of assimilation of nations is assuming under the present conditions of advanced capitalism may be obtained, for example, from the immigration statistics of the United States of America. During the decade between 1891-1900, Europe sent 3,700,000 people there, and during the nine years between 1901 and 1909, 7,200,000. The 1900 census in the United States recorded over 10,000,000 foreigners. New York State, in which, according to the same census, there were over 78,000 Austrians, 136,000 Englishmen, 20,000 Frenchmen, 480,000 Germans, 37,000 Hungarians, 425,000 Irish, 182,000 Italians, 70,000 Poles, 166,000 people from Russia (mostly Jews), 43,000 Swedes, etc., grinds down national distinctions. And what is taking place on a grand, international scale in New York is also to be seen in every big city and industrial township.
<Take Russia and the attitude of Great Russians towards the Ukrainians. Naturally, every democrat, not to mention Marxists, will strongly oppose the incredible humiliation of Ukrainians, and demand complete equality for them. But it would be a downright betrayal of socialism and a silly policy even from the standpoint of the bourgeois โnational aimsโ of the Ukrainians to weaken the ties and the alliance between the Ukrainian and Great-Russian proletariat that now exist within the confines of a single state.
<The best Jews, those who are celebrated in world history, and have given the world foremost leaders of democracy and socialism, have never clamoured against assimilation. It is only those who contemplate the โrear aspectโ of Jewry with reverential awe that clamour against assimilation.https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/crnq/3.htm >>2924301Sewardโs folly but Canadian.
>>2924319Except assimilation into American โcultureโ is direct collaboration with the fourth Reich in its genocidal campaigns against Russians and Han Chinese
>>2924346>UN security counciltruly, Japan and India are the most oppressed and least imperialist nations on earth
>>2924319Yeah I'm good. I don't want assimilation, I want certain ethnic groups to calm down.
>>2924292I support NKVD gunshots to back of head. Better than guillotine where it's proven the head is still conscious after beheading.
>>2924301>>2924341>Sewardโs follyI think this is the reverse of that. The US can take over Canada while Europe will be hard-pressed to defend it.
>>2924301either way, cancucks lose. its a win-win
>>2924380either canada sides with america, and they cease to be sovereign; or they side with europe, and they cease to be sovereign.
the world rejoices in either case
>>2924383>the world rejoices when imperialists unify and consolidate their power with each otherRetard
>>2924384<How did it happen that over Texas a war broke out between these two republics, which, according to the moral theory, ought to have been "fraternally united" and "federated", and that, owing to "geographical, commercial and strategical necessities", the "sovereign will" of the American people, supported by the bravery of the American volunteers, shifted the boundaries drawn by nature some hundreds of miles further south? And will Bakunin accuse the Americans of a "war of conquest", which, although it deals with a severe blow to his theory based on "justice and humanity", was nevertheless waged wholly and solely in the interest of civilization? Or is it perhaps unfortunate that splendid California has been taken away from the lazy Mexicans, who could not do anything with it? That the energetic Yankees by rapid exploitation of the California gold mines will increase the means of circulation, in a few years will concentrate a dense population and extensive trade at the most suitable places on the coast of the Pacific Ocean, create large cities, open up communications by steamship, construct a railway from New York to San Francisco, for the first time really open the Pacific Ocean to civilization, and for the third time in history give the world trade a new direction? The "independence" of a few Spanish Californians and Texans may suffer because of it, in someplaces "justice" and other moral principles may be violated; but what does that matter to such facts of world-historic significance?https://marxists.architexturez.net/archive/marx/works/1849/02/15.htm >>2924385three quarters of the worlds mining companies are headquarted in modern imperialist canada. Mexican California was an empty backwater that played no role in global imperialism. A better comparison would be a United States of Europe, an idea just as reactionary as Canada getting annexed by europe or america
>A United States of Europe under capitalism is tantamount to an agreement on the partition of colonies.
>From the standpoint of the economic conditions of imperialismโi.e., the export of capital and the division of the world by the "advanced" and "civilised" colonial powersโa United States of Europe, under capitalism, is either impossible or reactionary.
>On the present economic basis, i.e., under capitalism, a United States of Europe would signify an organisation of reaction to retard America's more rapid development. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/aug/23.htm >>2924391>three quarters of the worlds mining companies are headquarted in modern imperialist canadaAnd?
>Mexican California was an empty backwater that played no role in global imperialismMexico wasnโt imperialist now? And backwater isnโt quite the word I would use.
>just as reactionary<itโs reactionaryโฆbecause it is okay?!?!>Lenin >>2924392>And?you'd rather it all be Yank or Franco German owned? Why do you want to empower western imperialism?
>>2924394>you'd rather it all be Yank or Franco German owned?Iโd certainly love for them to try it so they can at least fall apart faster.
>Why do you want to empower western imperialism?I want western imperialism to accelerate to itโs final destination.
>>2924385Hobsbawm iirc drew an analogy between the Texas revolution and national movements in Europe in the same time that intensified in 1848. Like the Polish independence movement (and "November uprising"). Texas would get absorbed by the U.S. later and the Texians were Anglo settlers from other places though.
There was also a counter-revolution of sorts in Mexico which abolished the federal republic for a unitary state run by the military with Catholicism as the state religion. The Texas declaration of independence is all about that and being mad that the original federal constitution got scrapped. Anyways, the fact that the Anglos spoke a diferent language and had a different religion was important (although some spoke Spanish, would go to Mexico City, were involved in Mexican politics).
Reddit liberals are annoying and say it was just about slavery, like the war between Texas and Mexico was between red states vs. blue states or something. It's projecting the present on the past a bit too much because Texas joined the Confederacy later and in recent decades has been the largest conservative state. If Talarico wins in November though then this strange polarization about Texas might break down because some of them will realize it's more internally complex. Also if it was really about slavery then why didn't they mention it when they declared independence from Mexico, and how come one of the leaders was Sam Houston who later opposed the Confederacy when the Civil War broke out. Think about it!
>>2924381Gotta fight zionism with zionism, or fire with fire, you know, the thing!
>>2924402The horror!
A Palestinian child could have eaten that camera!
>>2924418Is this really the best distraction from *checks notes* uh, Epstein, Iran, AI, economy, gas, ICE, Trump, Israel, Gaza, and Jews they could come up with?
>>2924415Marx wanted to move to Texas
>>2924415>Reddit liberals are annoying and say it was just about slavery, like the war between Texas and Mexico was between red states vs. blue states or something. It's projecting the present on the past a bit too much because Texas joined the Confederacy later and in recent decades has been the largest conservative state. If Talarico wins in November though then this strange polarization about Texas might break down because some of them will realize it's more internally complex. Also if it was really about slavery then why didn't they mention it when they declared independence from Mexico, and how come one of the leaders was Sam Houston who later opposed the Confederacy when the Civil War broke out. Think about it!Just like it's possible to weaponize nuance to overly complicate an issue and prevent action from being taken it's also possible to weaponize a lack of nuance and remove understanding in order to simplify an issue present a stupid version of events that isn't true. Everybody does both these things so it's really a matter of finding who does it the least.
>>2924418Nixon was unironically a victim of the deep state. Obviously not a good guy himself and not totally guiltless, but its good that people are questioning the mainstream narrative around him and watergate.
>>2924306>Except the severed head keep living for like thrity seconds before death>>2924371>it's proven the head is still conscious after beheading.The best available evidence suggests that a person decapitated by a guillotine would lose consciousness within seconds, probably very rapidly, rather than remaining consciously aware for minutes. A 2023 medical review of the historical and physiological evidence reached that conclusion, while emphasizing that direct evidence in humans is necessarily limited.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9930870/Some electrical activity can continue in a brain after consciousness has already been lost. Animal experiments have demonstrated post-decapitation EEG activity, but that activity doesn't establish conscious awareness or the ability to perceive pain.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/089203629290004T >>2924385It's interesting to see the entire paragraph posted for once and not just the 1 sentence about lazy mexicans
>>2924301We pledge the first priority of our economy is to provide employment!
>>2924441Couple seconds is still a lot compared to instant death.
Also, here is the story behind the consciousness after beheading part.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150627035247/https://www.guillotine.dk/Pages/30sek.html >>2924416Nationalism and Zionism are both struggled against through internationalism, philistine scum
>>2924453>I'm a nationalist resisting assimilation because the commies printed libelous images of nazi germans waging their war of extinctions on the rest of europewow literally the same arguments Zionists use, imagine that
>>2924447That made for quite an interesting read but it is one man's anecdote from 1905.
>>2924465>the same arguments Zionists use<the same arguments every Communist country usedSorry I take the practice of actual Communists more seriously than idealist drivel.
>>2924466Yes, during the war they were. Then they switched after the war to facilitate post-war reconstruction.
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>>2924471>>2924218it's human psychology. when you have been marginalized and dominated and abused for as long as you can remember, you're basically like a confused angry child with no real sense of self, you've spend your whole life in a prison where everything you do and think and believe was dictated by your masters, so you are still institutionalized and you don't really have any outside knowledge or an ability to form your own ideas about anything. so you have to look outside for inspiration and validation, you look at the world and study the people in it who seem to really have their shit together and know what they are doing and you try to do what they do because that is all you can do at this point. but as you continue studying the world and learning more information, you eventually begin to accumulate enough raw material for critical thought and introspection to be possible, you can now stop relying so much on outside influence and can look inward and start taking an inventory and thinking about all the things you have learned and experienced and questioning everything and deciding what is right and what makes sense and what is really for you and what you are really about, and in this way you build and refine yourself and become a truly independent and autonomous individual. but if you don't do that and you just keep being the confused angry child doing the "fake it til you make it" thing and believing that if you blindly follow and emulate other people you will somehow become empowered in this way, then you still have no real agency and you're living in denial and being another kind of slave whose sense of self is being completely dictated by other people, who most likely don't really give a shit about you or your wellbeing at all. this is why some black activists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the religious beliefs of the arabs who conquered and enslaved africa before whitey did and why some feminists thought they could empower themselves by appropriating the fashion and careerism and elitism of the male authority figures who demeaned them and harassed them at work every day, this is why kids who get picked on in school start glomming onto the bullies and emulating their behaviors and become toadies.
>>2923745>all over history you have sociopathic people, it does not matter what race religion or whatever they are. the point is, there are sociopathic people who do atrocities, but also weaponize atrocities as an excuse to do more atrocities.too reasonable for this website. this website calls such reasonable ideas liberal.
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