No.17177[Last 50 Posts]
WE DID IT CASTILLOBROS EDITION 5.0Get in here
This thread is for discussion of the 2021 Peruvian Election. Looks like it's keeps beign a close one, and either one could win this. The Peruvian Left has gone far, however, and has united under a pretty based candidate. Let's watch
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No.17178
PENCILS OUT FOR PEDRITO
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No.17179
Western MLMs losing big
No.17180
Pencils out for Castillo!
No.17182
Bros why aren't they updating..
No.17183
>we did it edition
Just asking to jinx the election lol
dubs and all is forgiven…international_brigadeInternational Brigade
No.17184
Sharpen your pencils
No.17185
CASTILLO WILL WIN
No.17186
Taking a while to update ffs
No.17188
ML-Castillism with Peruvian characteristics doing in a year what Gonzalo couldn't do in 50. How will MLM's ever cope?
No.17189
>>17186Server has alot of people online right now I guess
No.17191
>>17183Bruh, OP is dubs already.
No.17192
Sorry for interrupting the celebration, just how many South American countries that have potential turned into socialist states?
Besides Chile, Peru & Colombia? How about Brazil? Argentina? Or the others?
No.17193
Update is out but it's smaller than usual
No.17194
>>17188Do you think Gonzalo would reject Castillo?
Are the shining path against him? I see no practical reasons for SP to be against someone who would possibly create better conditions and be able to create strategy, do social investigation etc… for a peoples war without getting fucked by the fujimori's
No.17195
YOU HAVENT WON YET FAGGOTS HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHSHAHSHSAHAGSGSHhshahporkyPorky
No.17197
>>3028A
Already prayed to Allah…Castillo will win porky, god is on the side of the oppressed.
No.17199
>>17192Define a
socialist state No.17200
>>17188Be careful tho
>>17195 No.17201
Democracy wins again
No.17203
>>17194I hope castillo works on a Amnesty for PCP
No.17205
>>17199The definition is obvious. Y'all eventually shall get rid of burgerland empire
No.17206
>>17203Hopefully he also pardons Antauro Humala
No.17207
>>17205You think peru will turn into a socialist state after the elections ?
No.17208
>>17203That would be political suicide lmao
No.17210
>>17203Let's hope so, maybe Gonzalo gets away free.
No.17211
>>17209invest in Castillo coin
No.17212
>>17209Pretty sure you can probably bet on Castillo winning on some betting site.
No.17213
Did he win?
No.17214
>>17194Forget Gonzalo already, he was a reactionary.
No.17215
We already won. There is no going back. You can cope how long you want but you just lost. Literally the only way you could escape communism is by tying a rope to your neck and killing yourself. We are winning globally and everywhere. We just won in Peru. Millenials and the coming generation of Zoomers see socialism more and more positively. You lost, porky.
No.17216
Shut up and post gusano tears
No.17219
>>17212this is a betting site lol
you pay x cents a pice and if you win they pay 1 buck a pice
No.17221
Damn the dollar is rising like foam, I wanted to import something I guess I'll wait a bit
No.17223
DON’T STOP YET CASTILLOBROS, HE STILL NEEDS OUR ENERGY TO DELIVER THE FINAL BLOW ✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
No.17224
>>17222DON'T GET COCKY NOW GUYS, LET THEM SEETHE AND BOIL IN GUSANO SOUP
No.17225
>>17222>lack of educationBeyond parody
No.17226
>>17222Redditoids are fucking vermin
lenin_capLenin Cap No.17227
Why do they like pencils so much anyway?
No.17228
>>17222>Wsb profile picThe meme speaks for itself
No.17230
>>17227teachers
islamic_communismIslamic Communism No.17231
>>17222Why do they call people who vote for the left dumb?
No.17232
>>17222Can't fucking wait to slaughter """"""""""educated""""""""""
No.17233
>>17222NOOO WE CAN’T LEAD THE UNEDUCATED, IMPOVERISHED MASSES RISE UP AND FORM THEIR OWN DESTINIES
No.17234
>>17227Because the pencil represents the need and desire for a new constitution
allendeAllende No.17236
>>17227Commies take away people's guns, hence they need to use anything sharp to hurt someone
No.17237
>>17227Coz pencils are dope
and a phallic symbol No.17239
>>17227It's a sacrifice for poor communities to pay for education, each pencil is a skipped meal for the mothers and fathers to ensure education for their children.
>>17222lmao
No.17243
NGL, the pencil shit is genius. Who DOESN'T want to be /pencilgang/?international_brigadeInternational Brigade
No.17244
>>17231Many people on the right believe that our policies are a fantasy, a pipe dream and something that is not attainable or realistic and so call us dumb.
No.17246
pencil banner please
No.17249
>>17240It's a juke, gusano
No.17251
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No.17252
>>17239the pencils having such symbolism is really nice
No.17253
>>17243what does it mean? is it cause he was a school teacher?
No.17254
>>17222>People vote socialist<It's lack of education>Socialist spends on public education<Stop! This will ruin our economy!>People vote liberal>Education privatized<It's for the bestSo what is it? Should people be educated or not educated?
No.17256
Workers ✏️ of ✏️ the ✏️ world ✏️ you ✏️ have ✏️ nothing ✏️ to ✏️ lose ✏️ but ✏️ your ✏️ chains ✏️
No.17257
>>17254"Education" as in knowing your place and accepting an awful life at the bottom rung of society
allendeAllende No.17260
Bros.. the lead has to grow faster
No.17261
>>17255Woah… I-I kneel, master Yakub
No.17262
>>17177>>17177HE STABBED 3 GUSANOS
WITH A FUCKING LAPIZ
No.17263
>>17253Partly yes because he was a teacher.
No.17265
STOP THE COUNT
No.17266
>>17264There are other departments that also haven't been count.
No.17267
>>17259Erase the bourgeoisie out of history!
No.17268
>>17264They have to physically ship the ballots
No.17270
>>17269The boats better not sink by "Accident"
Or the planes crash by "Accident"
No.17271
How many socialists parties ruling right now in south america?
No.17274
>>17270let's hope so for the burger votes
No.17275
>>17269Unrelated but I looked up ballot stuffing just for the fuck of it and I came across multiple news article debunking a viral video from the 2020 American elections that supposedly showed ballot stuffing but were actually from Russia. The video shown even had the fucking Russian eagle from their coat of arms in the booth curtain ffs, are Americans actually braindead?
No.17276
76k lead now
Itshappening.gif
No.17277
>>17274someone said in the previous thread, all the petty Bourg votes (Apparently all the petty Bourg Venezuelan "refugees" too?) for Keiko are in Lima, right?
No.17278
>>17276Wtf, that much? We already won
No.17279
>>17275>are Americans actually braindead?the answer to this is always yes
No.17281
>>17203That would be fucking retarded.
No.17282
>>17276what can I view this on? Is there a live feed?
No.17283
So let's say /pencilgang/ wins. Will anything actually happen? Or yet another nothingburger>international_brigadeInternational Brigade
No.17284
>>17278Nah i can't read for some reason
56k
No.17287
>>17285Link does not work
No.17288
>>17282https://www.resultadossep.eleccionesgenerales2021.pe/SEP2021/EleccionesPresidenciales/RePres/TYou can see the share of the foreign or total vote with the "Ámbito" tab, Todos=All (votes), Extranjero=Foreign, Perú=National
No.17289
>>17283Well within South America it should be a good thing right? It shows the left is winning and rising in the region which is good, it shows that current elections trends in the region will be similar hopefully!
No.17290
Can someone explain to me this thing about foreign votes? Is this mail in votes or something else?
No.17291
>>17259Friedman fried with this pencil
No.17292
>>17287Couldn't post the link so I had to do a (dot) in the link. Replace the (dot) and it works
No.17293
>>17290votes of peruan nationals that live in foreign countries
you go to the embassy and vote
No.17294
>>17290Diasporafaggots voting for kikeo
No.17295
>>17289Is he anti-imperalist too? What would an anti-imperalist bloc look like?
No.17296
Did they already count the rural votes?
The votes in the U.S still haven't call out.
No.17297
92% Of votes already counted! MEANING 8 percent left…and Castillo is already doing great with many votes going to him, its a small margin between him and Keiko right?
No.17298
>>17296Still counting a bit of Castillo strongholds
No.17299
>>17289Sure, but this Castillo dude has no institutional support. I don't see how he'll make much of a change tbh. Someone care to correct me if I'm mistaken?
international_brigadeInternational Brigade No.17301
How long until a US coup attempt
No.17302
>>17297From the last update for the votes just in Peru Castillo is leading by 74,860 votes
No.17303
>>17296There are multiple departments without the totalized count done. That means, even for those that are right now even given for Keiko, that those votes are very rural votes, far away, and those are most likely for Castillo.
No.17304
>>17299>Run for office promising a referendum on a new constitution; convene a constituent assembly, which may serve as a legislature; and submit the new draft to a referendum.This is the plan
No.17305
>>17304the teacher will give them a lesson in deviousness
No.17306
>>17296Ayacucho, Loreto and Madre de Dios are sill below 90%
>>17299Hum, depends on how you play your cards. That is why it has been repeated time and time that the mobilization of the people will be needed to change the constitution and back a left who doesn't control congress.
There are some mechanism, referendums that take time but could give great outcomes.
No.17307
>>17299Any change that happens is going to involve a lot of compromise with people to the right of Peru Libre, but the main hope is the replacement of the 90s constitution
allendeAllende No.17308
>>17297What if that 8 percent swings in keikos favor. The samurai will have dominated Latam.
No.17311
>>17295Well on Wikipedia it states that Peru Libre party oppose the "Lima Group" which is a group of countries in LatAm basically against Venezuela , so I would say he is Anti-Imperailist, he seems to follow the party line.
No.17313
>>17300Luckly we don't have that remnant of the XIX century that is mail-in votes.
No.17314
>>17192At this point what's being grasped for is anti-imperialism, and these countries are going left-socdem at best. But that's not a huge issue. Cuba was originally a socdem movement, but imperialist conditions forced them to where they are.
Mexico, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Peru, Chile, Argentina, Cuba and Bolivia may well form a coalition. May be some I missed. Brazil looks good for Lula
now but in my view it's too early to say.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17316
>>17315Those are the same chuds believing that Palestine=Israel in the violence balance.
No.17317
>>17315They are so fucking retarded holy shit
No.17319
>>17315Self admitted neoliberals are a million times more honorable than any right wing or liberal asshole. At least neolibs are explicitly self interested and aren't interested in the public good. Whereas liberals like to pretend they have an interest in the public good.
No.17320
>>17231Theres a certain brand of libshit that believes in """experts""" and consequently views certain political positions as some kind of objective truth if they think the """experts""" are behind them. Most notably, they like to think neoliberalism and anti-communism are some kind of settled science and anyone who isn't a neolib is some kind of ignorant.
bolshevikBolshevik No.17321
>>17319???? Neoliberals are right-wing liberal assholes.
No.17322
>>17289>>17314COVID paved the way for regional integration; Argentine and Mexico have a lot of cooperation in the vaccines area, Mexico and Bolivia have issued statements against the OAS, Cuba also cooperates with its regional allies and with Argentina and Mexico in Health, and I think Evo hinted at a possible union with Perú if Castillo wins
No.17323
>>17319Dude, Neoliberals are exactly like that.
Have you never heard of the "global poverty reduction" myth they like to peddle?
No.17324
>explicitly self interested and aren't interested in the public good
stop falling for moralism spooks. you should be a leftist because it's in your own self-interest, not because of muh public goodinternational_brigadeInternational Brigade
No.17326
All praise to Pedro Castillo, Champion of the People!
No.17327
>>17319No, they're the worst.
No.17328
>>17325Time for some stonks
No.17329
>>17322A socialist or even left-socdem coalition or union in LatAm would be great and would placate conditions further worldwide for the entire left, it would be a historic moment, some would say even Akin to the soviets.
No.17332
Around 80 pro fujimori lawyers are plotting to mess with the impugned votes.
This can easily give keiko the victory. I wonder if peru libre is ready to do the same
No.17334
>>17331Fucking disturbing man
No.17335
>>17324fuck off stirnerfag
No.17336
>>17321>>17323>>17327Im not talking about people you call neolibs, I'm talking about people who ideologically identify as neoliberal.
No.17337
When will the final results be in?
No.17338
>>17332Only if the shining path would go and burn Fujimori votes already and help rig the election in Castillo's favour.
No.17339
>>17187I mentioned him when he came up first in the first round to Jason but he ignored my Ask. I think he didn't want to say anything because he knows that Pedro Castillo is anti-LGBT and he wants to maintain liberal optics to appeal to anarchists. He covers the news but had nothing to say about it or give him any sort of mentions or support in the first round then says this when he needs attention the most. I'm disappointed.
No.17340
>>17318BASADO ultraCHAD-EVO.
No.17341
>>17335moralfags need to read theory and basic philosophy
international_brigadeInternational Brigade No.17342
>>17339Why does he mind keeping the anarchist and lib idpol obsessed faggots in his audience? Just embrace it.
No.17343
>>17332We shall see if Peru Libre is as organised and prepared as MAS (and especially thanks to its links with indigenous unions and other popular movements) was in fighting back the coup and regaining power. I don't know enough about Peru and its political situation to make any prediction.
No.17345
>>17324I have my own self-interests in the collectives.
No.17346
Count updated, Castillo now leading by 79,169 votes
No.17347
<0.36% GAP
>The gap increased again favoring ourguy.
No.17348
>>17346He can't be stopped
No.17350
Does chadtillo need 51% to win?
No.17351
>>17336Yes, they talk about the 'public good' and how you have to have fascists in power and right wing death squads to safeguard the public good against communists.
No.17352
>>17346If his lead gets to 150K in Peru, I think he'll have it in the bag no matter what happens abroad
at least until the inevitable reaction tries to ratfuck the results No.17353
>>17341An interest in myself and an interest in others are the same thing, and if that's called 'morality' idgaf
No.17354
>>17338As the Roman philosophers would say - "democracy was a mistake"
No.17355
>>17339>>17342You need to realize that Unruhe is a Third Worldist and it as a theory is a very unprincipled and incoherent deviation from Maoism (MLM) and even Marxism.
No.17356
The fraud is unfolding as we speak. They are fabricating US and Euro actas
No.17358
>>17342Because he would rather avoid garnering any attention or support to third world movements that are explicitly socialist to appease said optics that are propagated by the neoliberal elites to divide Communists.
He is explicitly third worldist and pandering to first world idpol is exactly the opposite of what his stated ideology is.
No.17359
>>17351Nah those are regular milk toast liberals, the Obama type liberals. Neoliberal ideologues are like the Elon Musks of the world, they say poors will always exist and that trying to help them only creates more problems than it solves.
No.17361
>>17355I am not an Unruhe purist but if he could do something to help he deliberately says nothing to appease reactionaries. It looks bad even if you don't follow his vein of thought. He is apparently useless except for covering some sort of news events which everyone else does, rather than rallying his small, loyal fanbase around worthy causes that will actually make a difference.
No.17362
>>17360This is about to happen
No.17363
>>17357Fucking psychopathic abominations
No.17364
>>17357Look at Israel and Ukraine for a laugh
No.17365
How long until we know the real results?allendeAllende
No.17369
>>17360JuaiDOG got a new job
No.17371
the best kind of election, that with a razor thin margin
c'mon Castillo this'll be fun.democratic_socialismDemocratic Socialism
No.17372
>>17360Looks like he found a new place where to spend the US taxpayer money and VZ assets in hookers and cocaine.
No.17373
El Salvador ends anti-corruption accord with OAS, dismaying U.S.https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/salvadoran-attorney-general-ends-anti-corruption-accord-with-oas-2021-06-04/No no no bros, we can't be losing legitimacy across the whole continent like this all so quickly… this is bad bros..
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17375
>>17357>>17364Link to that website?
No.17381
>>17378100% whiteskinned Middle class gusanos living in segregated neighbourhoods.
No.17383
>>17378I expected this may diaspora gusano's burn in hell!
No.17385
>>17359> Neoliberal ideologues are like the Elon Musks of the worldThe guy who called the US to coup in Bolivia? That isn't a good example, lmao
No.17387
>>17382Literally the gusano ambassador and their family.
No.17388
>>17384Lmao ButtMan will cause riots against his transport policies.
No.17389
Guy watch for US votes, they will be frauding shit there
No.17391
>>17382DO NOT REDEEEM THE ELECTION
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17392
>>17385That's the distinction here. A neoliberal openly is hostile to poor people so they are easy to point at being psychotic. Liberals are not so easy to point out because they are the "human rights" types.
No.17393
>>17382Look at Croatia, in some twisted way the Peruvians there are based, very rare for Croatia
No.17394
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No.17396
>>17393yeah, biggest shock of the election
No.17399
>>17398<61000 votes leadThis keeps me uneasy
sandinistaSandinista No.17404
>>17403That made my cry
sandinistaSandinista No.17407
We won already. Stop the count.
No.17409
>>17407Declare victory and take to the streets nao
No.17411
>>17410kek this shit never gets old
No.17412
>>17203I hope he kills them all
No.17415
>>17410his face, the way he is holding the phone and everything going on in the background going on.
funny af photo.
No.17416
>>17410>>17360 He did it twice in the same thread.
Impressive.
sandinistaSandinista No.17417
lead is up to about 75k globallyislamic_communismIslamic Communism
No.17418
>>17413I thought it would have been worse tbh.
sandinistaSandinista No.17419
>>1741476k lead, is that good bros?
No.17420
>>17414The lead in peru is almost 100k
No.17422
>>17413Urbanoids face the wall
No.17423
>>17421pencil needs fuckin sharpened
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17424
>>17419Getting better, also Italy is out of the picture.
Spain must be next.
sandinistaSandinista No.17428
>>17360He's waiting to receive his orders from the cringe department of the CIA.
No.17430
>>17407Call Rudy Giuliani, I call fraud, massive amounts of fraud.
No.17431
>>17429Dude trust me. Not as bad as we thought.
sandinistaSandinista No.17432
The Vote Counting in Japan, Venezuela, France, Italy, Spain and the US didnt started yet.
>what did they mean by this?
No.17434
>>17429italy is still frozen on )% for me even though everything else including the total is updated waddafug
islamic_communismIslamic Communism No.17435
>>17432Italy has been posted by an anon. Strangely enough it doesn't appear when i go on the website.
sandinistaSandinista No.17436
>>17432It's already finished in Italy.
No.17437
>>17433I heard once that Adorno was only listening to German big band jazz lol
No.17438
>>17432Fujifraud incoming
No.17440
>>17434>>17435Uh, same. It just disappeared what the fuck
No.17443
>>17222>lack education>elect teacherWhy aren't North Americans this smart?
thinkThink No.17444
>>17432Can someone explain to me why a national election is taking place all around the world and not in the nation itself. Now do give me a bullshit explanation, in the US people vote overseas by mail in voting, that simple.
But for some reason Peru allows other nations citizens to vote in a national election?
No.17445
>Castillo has 37,7% of the foreign vote as of now
Its not bad at allsandinistaSandinista
No.17446
>>17444Dude many nations allow it, Italy for one but i believe Spain too and Ecuador and Argentina and Bolivia
sandinistaSandinista No.17447
>>17414FAMILY GUY NUMBERS! FAMILY GUY NUMBERS!
No.17448
>>17444Wait people that don't live in Peru can vote in the election???
No.17449
Which twitter accounts should I follow to see the butthurt of Castillo winning
No.17450
breaking: 10,000,000,000 votes for Madame Presidente Fufu arrive from the USAtranshumanismTranshumanism
No.17451
BRING CASTILLO TO 100K LEAD, HE NEEDS YOUR ENERGY FOR THE FINAL PUSHsandinistaSandinista
No.17452
>>17448Peruvians can vote in their embassies or consulates, and/or the sons of peruvians who have been registered in the embassy (making them peruvians). One of the presidential candidates was even that, born in Venezuela but registered in the embassy ergo, peruvian.
No.17454
How much you want to bet Fujiwhori is going to bitch out and cry to the OAS for STOPTHESTEAL
No.17456
I am going to sleep. When I come back I want to see castillo win.
Have all my power in the meanwhile
No.17457
>>17453lmao, was this banned?
No.17458
>>17330Do a higher quality resize of the original so it's not all fuzzy, and I'll add it.
No.17459
>>17451I PREDICT: WITH THE HELP OF THE CUZCO PROVINCE, CASTILLO WILL WIN THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5U-ima5twk No.17460
>>17448Well apparently both citizens and some non citizens can vote in the election. I honestly don't know how but I'm thinking it's people in foreign countries who get a temporary visa or passport or something that allow foreigners to vote in a foreign election, it's really fucked up.
No.17461
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ TAKE MY ENERGY ✏️༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ ✏️
No.17462
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No.17463
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️sandinistaSandinista
No.17465
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No.17466
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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
VAMOS PEDRITO
No.17467
thank you based archive anon
No.17468
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TAKE
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MY
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ENERGY
No.17469
>༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
No.17477
>>17470the pencil is mightier than nippon steel
No.17482
>>17478THE PENCIL IS GETTING SHARPENED
No.17483
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No.17485
>>17478✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
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✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
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No.17491
>>17474Johnny Silverhand before nuking up Arasaka HQ
kek
No.17496
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No.17498
>Problems loading Venezuela page
Results dropping?sandinistaSandinista
No.17500
>>17498Uh, you could say that
fedFed No.17501
Someone make the Stasi logo with the Pencil instead of the gunsandinistaSandinista
No.17503
>>17497One of the most famous Soviet Socialist fiction literature called:
How The Steel Was Tempered
Socialist fiction from Peru:
How The Pencil Was Sharpened ✏️
No.17504
I fear the burger. Someone give me hopium pleasesandinistaSandinista
No.17506
ANNOUNCEMENT
Peru's destiny is hanging on the balance.
The next quads (303333) are crucial.
You know what to dosandinistaSandinista
No.17508
Pencil gang rise upiwwIWW
No.17514
>>17510bring trump back tbh
No.17515
>>17241Lo más precioso que posee el hombre es la vida, Se le da una sola vez.
Y debe usarlo para que cuando muera pueda decir: He dedicado toda mi vida, toda mi fuerza, a la causa más gloriosa del mundo, la liberación de la humanidad.
No.17516
>t. deadbeat
No.17518
Peru more like pee-yew
No.17520
>>17504maybe trump made them scared of asian people and the right wing
No.17523
pencilman will win and fujimori will be executed
No.17526
REAFFIRMING AGAIN THAT CASTILLO WILL WIN
No.17527
dam the >>303333 isn't ITT
No.17529
>303333
No.17530
fuck not even in this thread are you shitting me
No.17531
what a waste of quads
No.17534
two nukes wasn't enough
-pedro castillo
No.17536
>>17533>screencapping yourselfyeesh
Is it still up? >>300000
No.17539
>>17532Accidental embed
bolshevikBolshevik No.17541
Neo-Incan Soviet Union ftw
No.17542
anybody remember those big pencil they'd sell at school bookstores
No.17547
Any news comrades?
No.17550
>>17547Castillo has reached the 100K vote lead in Peru, he's starting to have a nice security margin against the abroad gusanos.
No.17554
There are about 250k impugned votes, keiko will try to win by getting those votes
No.17559
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No.17560
>>17557<82000 votes leadGetting there, but we need more
sandinistaSandinista No.17562
>>17560I'm certain we need around 150k, correct?
No.17563
were close to 98%
WHEN WILL IT END?
No.17564
>>17562150k at the very least.
200k for a cushy win
sandinistaSandinista No.17567
>>17566Ah fuck pack it up
No.17569
>>17561Actas -groups of votes- that weren't accepted for some reason like incorreclty redacted or unreadable
No.17570
DUBS FOR CASTILLO
No.17572
>>17566>BELITALING DEMOCRACYCAN I GET A FUCKIN BASED
brocialismBrocialism No.17574
>>17572CASTILLO knows the dangers of bourgeois elections!
No.17576
>>17572FUCKEN BASTE
>>17570CHECKED
>>17554FUUUUCK
No.17577
>>17566>doesn't believe in a free market nor international trade, he wants to confiscate private property, and doesn't believe in free pressNoooooooooooooo not the heckin private propertinos!!!!!!! Muh Freeze peech!!!
No.17578
>>17566I don't have a twitter account but can somebody tell him to kill himself, seethe, cope and dialite.
No.17579
>>17569No you see, your honor, the dick drawn on this ballot clearly signifies that the dear citizen was voting for Keiko Fujimura.
No.17580
>>17566Burger succdems openly supporting a Marxist is kinda based
No.17581
>>17580I dunno who runs the "People for Bernie" account but whoever they are they've proven themselves multiple times to be more on the class-conscious left-wing of the remaining Bernie socdem movement.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17584
>>17566Three-quarters of this is based. The rest his party has a different opinion on, so it really isn't a concern.
No.17586
>>17581Small proof that a leftward direction is still possible in the imperialist core
No.17587
>>17583Castillo keeps giving more and more huh
No.17588
>>17586I still find "imperialist core" to be reductive if it's taken only country-by-country; There are regions here that are essentially in third world conditions even if this isn't really the norm.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17590
>>17589How can Castillo be this based
No.17594
>>17588Those regions where poverty is worst are also where political reaction is strongest
allendeAllende No.17595
>>17593<Celebrate what?Dude it's not over until its over.
sandinistaSandinista No.17599
>>17592The more they act like this the more we fucking win.
sandinistaSandinista No.17600
>>17592Btw for the people who don't speak spanish, just so you see how vile these psychopaths are, they're talking about suspecting that their maid voted for Castillo and one of them says he "wanted to throw her off a balcony". The others are replying they should fire her.
No.17601
>>17600I'm retarded, I didn't even see the right half was already translated LMAO
No.17602
>>17600I wonder why the Peruvian working class voted Castillo?
No.17605
>>17592It’s like that one meme of servants smiling at the results while their master is angry except more batshit crazy
No.17606
>>17594poor people are more based and blackpilled than the average westerner
No.17607
>>17592If I had the image of the wojack criying while the pepe servants smiled while seeing a TV I would post it.
Yeah, I have seen this reaction from rightwing fellas who were surprised by Castillo in the first round. In the second they have been more quiet in my experience.
No.17608
>>17588>>17594I'm referring to states that actively participate and architect imperialism, not their supporters on their side of geopolitical lines. I dont think having a right wing government automatically makes a country imperialist, just more willing to side with them.
No.17609
ANY UPDATE FROM FRANCE SPAIN OR VENEZUELA?sandinistaSandinista
No.17610
<0.482% GAP
>FUJITURDS IN SUICIDE WATCH
No.17613
>>17607(In the menaces to workers), before they were shouting "ECONOMIC COLLAPSE" "FACTORIES CLOSED". Now they are just coping and hoping for a selfcoup by Sagasti or just blaming the expats who voted Castillo (their supposed fuji stronghold).
No.17614
>Updated foreign vote count
<Pedro rises to 38% of the vote
Keikofags on suicide watchsandinistaSandinista
No.17615
>87000 VOTES LEAD
Getting nearer and nearersandinistaSandinista
No.17616
>>17594That hasn't always been so and it isn't always so today either. West Virginia and Appalachia at large used to be a hotbed of labor organization, I found my grandma's writings about her family who were coal workers, there's religious messaging in there but references to company stores and things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfp2O9ADwGk>basically like thisRural areas in the US used to be more aligned to progressive movements and parties, you had these parties form out of farmers trying to stop rail monopolies for example.
This isn't even to speak of the poorest mostly black areas of the country.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17617
Castillo leading by 106k in Peru
Keiko bros..
No.17618
>>17614How has no votes come in from USA? Are they using it to try and save Fuji’s dumbass
No.17619
>>17617do we need the 100k lead in peru or in total?
No.17620
Castillo winning would be the first defeat of the Lava jato crime clique, huge for the continent
No.17621
>>17619IMHO we need 150k lead AND for the Us to be the last country to be counted in foreign votes (so we need that difference after France Japan Venezuela and Spain get out)
sandinistaSandinista No.17622
>>17620now, Peru
next year, Brazil
then, the continent
after that, the World
No.17624
Can't remember if it was this thread or one of the previous thread but some people were talking about Italy's votes being all counted but checking votes in the site Italy appears as not having even started the count. What's the deal with this shit? Am I going insane or did no people comment on Italy?
No.17625
>>17624We did comment on Italy.
sandinistaSandinista No.17626
>>17620>Lava Jato crime cliqueDude, you are merging the peruvian experience with the brazilian or the venezuelan one.
Here in Peru the Lava Jato trials will continue, now with more intensity, since the one who the bucket full of shit fell on was Keiko. Kek
That why there was this motivation/half-joke about voting for Castillo to defend the lives of the prosecutor Domingo Perez
who seeing the fate of Moro in Brazil, or maybe common sense doesn't get in the media or politics too much No.17627
Can we find polling about Peruvian-Americans to extrapolate how this might split?
https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/fact-sheet/u-s-hispanics-facts-on-peruvian-origin-latinos/I found this.
"Looking at full-time, year-round workers, U.S. Hispanics earned less than Peruvians ($34,000 vs. $40,000)."
"The rate of homeownership among U.S. Hispanics is 47% compared with 51% for Peruvians."
"The median age of U.S. Hispanics (29) is lower than that of Peruvians (38) and the U.S. population (38)."
"Similarly, 64% of Hispanic adults are English proficient, as are 58% of Peruvian adults."
So we can extrapolate that Peruvians are older, (slightly) higher income, and (slightly) less likely to be proficient in English.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17628
>>17611Saying the quiet part loud eh
allendeAllende No.17629
>>17627>So we can extrapolate that Peruvians are older, (slightly) higher income, and (slightly) less likely to be proficient in English.Compared to US Hispanics at large, I mean.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17630
>>17627This is prime Gusano electorate no way to spin it
sandinistaSandinista No.17631
>>17628Probably some liberal who thinks they are voting for her begrudgingly.
>>17630Keep in mind that these are averages. We know Ms. Fufufufufu will have an advantage, it's just a question of: how much?
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17633
>>17605can someone post this, always loved it
No.17635
Hey, I've been looking at some comments on r/peru and I found something pretty interesting, in this thread they're talking about what to do if Castillo wins and some of them are saying how while Castillo is bad for the country, they still believe he won't be dangerous (or too dangerous), however they talk about this guy Vladimir Cerron. I know nothing about this guy (he's also from Peru Libre, that's all I know) and mention how if Castillo wins, they believe in a potential scenario where Cerron could coup Castillo through the party itself and take control. According to them if that happens then it's all over, Peru goes full communist and the guy never leaves power.
So any peruanons, who is this Cerron guy? Why is he so scary to the keikofags, and do you believe he would do something like this if Castillo wins? Here's the reddit thread btw
https://www.reddit.com/r/PERU/comments/nuhyzd/castillo_gana/ No.17636
>>17634>Western left canceled him<It's overIt has not even begun
sandinistaSandinista No.17638
PENCILBROS LETS GO ✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️✏️
No.17639
Archive these threadsalbaniaAlbania
No.17641
>>17634Greenwald is a fucking moron, if you weren't seeing the red flags as early as a few months ago when he started blabbing about some culture war bullshit after his round of based anti-Bolsonaro activity your senses might have been dulled. His brain is frying slowly
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17642
>>17637Lmaooooo, actually true
It's her turn
No.17643
>>17634Pedrito is gigabased
No.17644
>>17641Imagine being a culture war faggot when that shit is in it's death throes.
No.17645
>>17632This is the power of the people.
MORE OF THIS FUCK RADLIBS FUCK INTELLECTUALS ALL POWER TO THE PEOPLEsandinistaSandinista No.17646
>>17640We’re all gonna make it, bros
No.17647
>>17646>>17640Don't take the hopium.
It's soon, it's too fucking soon.
sandinistaSandinista No.17648
>>17644It's hard to thread the needle, hard to explain. I don't think abandoning such things entirely is intelligent, but Greenwald has really shown he's gonna head too far out into it at this point
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17650
>>17634Someone please DM him and put him out of his ignorance lmao
No.17651
>>17650Dorkwald is a know it all and is allergic to actual criticism
No.17652
>>17648someone should just tell him to stop hanging around with the upper crust and shit. Y'know he hasn't seen a workin' man in forever
No.17654
>>17635I'm not peruvian but afaik he's the leader of Peru Libre and openly ML unlike Castillo
No.17655
>>17652If you've ever seen Michael Tracey's gradual brainrot I think that may be the road he ends up taking as well.
>>17627https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2010/12/alberto-fujimori-peru-daughter-president.htmlI found this from 2010 when Fujimori apparently ran another time.
"Keiko Fujimori holds a business master's degree from Columbia University in New York and has already campaigned among Peruvian Americans in New Jersey."
I wonder, how did Peruvian-Americans split in previous elections she ran in?
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17656
>>17653<Another million votesThis guy is high AF on copium
sandinistaSandinista No.17657
>>17656There are another gorillion Fujimori votes hiding in Lima we just need to find them please
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17658
Reminder Castillo won but they will try and likely succeed to steal it from him.brocialismBrocialism
No.17661
>89000 VOTES LEAD
We are going places.
HEAD.ON.THE.FUCKING.GAMEsandinistaSandinista
No.17663
>>1766189k? how many votes are there from diaspora?
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17664
>>17654Pretty much this, he is a founder of Peru Libre and it's leader,neurosurgeon trained in Cuba, governor of the central province of Junin and an ML from head to toes.
If you speak spánish you could watch this video
No.17665
>>17660time for cunt punt
No.17667
>>303532
Does Cerron support Castillo? I mean it would be pretty funny that the creator of the party openly dislike the person who brought them success
No.17668
>>17663Still 26 something % counted.
sandinistaSandinista No.17670
>>17667Yes, they're associated closely I think. This is a big reason why I'm willing to sweep whatever flaws of Castillo under the rug, because no matter what, for some reason he has the full confidence of this ML guy & co. It's kind of odd. But I see what interests are backing him and what interests are backing the other side. And I know which way to go from that for sure at the very least
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17671
>>17660Sometimes gusanos are so fucking retarded. At least Western neolibs often try to avoid such obvious depictions of their status to not lose their base of black and brown voters, but those Latin American right-wingers openly brag how they are like some sort of master race that deserve to be living in some sort of rentier state that returns back to the econmienda so their failsons can still afford their cars and trips to Disney Land. It's so obviously evil and shitty that really turns people away.
No.17672
Does anyone have a good article on his actual leftist positions? I'm a burger and all I found in articles is "far left" but I can't find anything on what his economy would look like.
No.17673
I refuse to believe at this point there's no fraud going on.
Venezuela results are not fucking coming and the two countries are like 800 km apart WTF.sandinistaSandinista
No.17674
>>17672I haven't seen enough either. You should know though, that he was apparently involved with supporting a teachers strike a few years ago. So he has some union background.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17675
>>17673Guaido is writing his name in the ballots
No.17676
>>17660>ripped jeans and combat bootswow she must be a working class girl
No.17677
Wowie, a social fascist with radlib backing won against girlboss fascism. What a victory for the left. Once Castillo invariably behaves like any other “democratic socialist” and purges the communists while groveling before Israel, I’ll be laughing
No.17678
>>17672i read on the spanish wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt but they're pretty much market socialist.
I mean it would be pretty delusional to think being elected will lead to a command economy. Castillo isnt going to be the next Lenin but he could be a good stepping stone for further left politics and the anti-imperialist politics will be essential if one is to think imperialism is the primary contradiction.
No.17679
>>17660Oof what’s that smell.
No.17681
>>17677uh oh Castillo bros… is this true???? we can't support a literal communist, they're no better than fascist
No.17682
>>17677>social fascistyep, stopped reading right there
No.17683
>>17672From what I know:
>nationalization of natural resources>higher tax-rates and profit-sharing of domestiv companies>80% profit-sharing of transnational companies with the state>ramping up education budget from 2% to 10%>increase of state-investments in poorer regions to jump-start businesses >increase social security>alignment with Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua>constitutional reform>revision of the Fujimori era and of those who were unlawfully hurt No.17684
Pencil Allende
No.17685
>>17187Three reasons for the silence.
1. due to complex personal issues. Some of Jason's closest friends are Jewish and because of that he has a disproportionately strong response to Anti-Semitism. He's worried about some of the anti-zionist/anti jewish signalling as well as far right support for Castillo (/pol/ for instance seems roughly divided 50/50). This is largely an emotional reaction related to his sense of personal loyalty to friends.
2. Jason is shit poor and unfortunately dependent on the channel for the meager, shitty income it gives him. If MSM start going hard pushing anti-semite narrative against Castillo it could result in Jason's channel or social media accounts going down. Youtube have been looking for excuses to fuck with him for a while, and accusations of antisemitism will get a channel brought down very quickly.
3. Jason is weary from past harassment campaigns against him and he knows damn well social media attention whores and narcissists will use ANY statement of support for Castillo to harass Jason, label him an anti-semite red-brown nazbol vortex literally hitler and just generally cause trouble for him.
>>17358What exactly could Jason and his very small viewer base actually do to help Castillo? I think you massively overestimate Jason's influence - he's put out videos before for fundraisers, etc, and been unable to raise a single dollar. Even if any significant number of people backed him, what could he really do? If you've got any ideas, tell me and I'll put them to him myself.
jucheJuche No.17686
>>17678>>17674So he's just less woke Sanders? Ahaha leftypol's hatred of democratic socialism has been BTFO'd
No.17687
>>17672Basically the same things as Evo Morales, according to Evo Morales at least
allendeAllende No.17689
>>17678Wikipedia. It's not a useless website. But any time you read an imporant claim, ALWAYS look at what sources are backing it. Sometimes you'll laugh so hard at what you find, there are reactionaries who use the poorest sourcing on fucking Earth but never get caught with it or don't get caught in time before you come across what they injected to the page.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17690
>>17687I can dig that. I fucking hate the Catholic church, but not as much as I hate capitalism.
No.17691
>>17687Yeah from what I gathered the most apt comparison to describe Castillo/Peru Libre is the Peruvian Morales/MAS.
No.17692
>>17685Where are you pulling the antisemitism thing? I haven't even seen this smear against Castillo whatsoever. Is it a thing?
I noticed they tried this smear against uh, that one communist guy from Chile who's running. I forget his name. And a bunch of Jewish academics wrote a letter supporting him, saying criticism of Israel isn't antisemitism. So that was funny.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17693
>>17664This guy seems like such a chad, also really interesting how a lot of leftists historically have been doctors or studied medicine. Che, Allende, Miguel Enriquez, and this guy. There's probably a lot more.
No.17695
>>17664Yeah I made a meme remix of Peruvian right-wing TV fearmongering about the pencils being a Cuban revolutionary thing (but with the Hell March from Command and Conquer), but it's interesting because they show images of teachers I'm assuming from Junin a couple years ago doing the ML-style cadre march with the pencils, and Cuba is probably where Cerron got the idea from.
My Spanish isn't good but the sense I got is that the rightists are claiming that Cerron is "pulling the strings" behind the "stupid cowboy redneck guy" to trick the masses into making Peru gommunist.
>>17672I dunno. There has been mixed reporting in the American business press about him. The WSJ editorials have just fearmongered about gommies, but Bloomberg did some pieces where they're trying to figure out what he might actually do:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-04-15/peru-candidate-seeks-bigger-cut-from-mining-not-state-controlhttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-05-17/a-push-to-tax-the-copper-boom-is-spreading-from-chile-to-peru>>17691Yep. Short of full nationalization (although I wonder if they would go for it, if they feel like they could do it), but like Bolivia where the state raises taxes and royalties and leans on these companies involved in resource extraction to renegotiate the contracts, so the state gets a better deal, and the proceeds are then plowed into infrastructure, social services, schools, parks – i.e. stuff people like.
The other part of this is to capture windfalls profits from rising commodity prices. See the price of copper on this chart? They're at an all-time high. Peru is one the top copper exporters in the world, and capital profits from the extraction and sale of the copper on the world market while the common Peruvian people don't.
No.17696
>>17672More or less something between the bolivian model and if the neolib constitution permits (or until a new one is called and drafted) "Popular economy with markets" aka. Socialism with Namibian characteristics kek.
>>17683Now the test is how much of this can pass through congress. That's why people on the left I have seen focused so much on the bolivian model.
No.17697
>>17692That was against Daniel Jadue, the zionists are going to take every chance they can get to smear him with the antisemitism accusations, even moreso considering his Palestinian roots.
No.17698
>>17695can you upload the pencil march to youtube
>>17697Yep, I forgot he has Palestinian Christian ancestry but I bet that's a part of it.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17699
>>17696>Now the test is how much of this can pass through congress.Well I believe it's still gonna be a massive boon because the president sets the agenda for foreign policy, he can still life a huge burden from other left-wing governments in Latin America. I just hope he manages to properly put the blame on a potentially obstructionist congress, so that PL can follow up with a congress majority as well.
No.17700
>>17692I don't believe he is antisemitic, although he's made references to international zionism and used caricatures of Jewish bankers in propaganda, etc. /pol/ as I said is 50/50 on board with him and they seem convinced that he hates Jews.
Jason is paranoid about how this could pan out, whether it could create friction between close friends & whether it could be used to attack him/his channel, because even if the accusations are baseless the zionist lobby & right-wing broadly are making a game of accusing leftists of being antisemites, ie see Jeremy Corbyn. This will be a major theme of anti-Castillo propaganda assuming he doesn't cuck out, and you can guaranteei radlibs will go hard on labelling us as jew haters.
jucheJuche No.17701
>>17681He isn’t a communist, he’s a self described social democrat who’s cucked out to the Kinseyite Cult
No.17703
Castillo now leading by 108,551 votes in Peru
No.17704
>>17693He was better than Mendoza or Goyo in the elections of 2016. And he resigned to follow since he wasn't rising in polls (and to get Mendoza some traction of course)
>>17699That is why antiimperialism can be still a great tool to differiantiate even socdems. What is the difference between Costa Rica (socdems close to Washington) and Nicaragua (socdems away from it) show? Which one should be supported? Specially taking away Lima from the Lima Group kek.
No.17707
>>17700i just visited /pol/ and they say the castillo guy is a corrupt commie. i dont see anyone accusing him of being "based anti-Semite" over there.
No.17708
>>17685Can you leave Jason, he’s not relevant to this thread so quit it.
No.17709
>>17701His main party is Marxist, Peru Libre is self-declared Marxist, and the whole communist factions in Peru support him.
COPE.
No.17710
PENCILS FOR COMRADE PEDRITO LETS FUCKING GO
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No.17711
>>17705it looks like a 20th century propaganda poster and i love it
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No.17713
>>17709Strange that the actual communists, the PCP, have denounced him. Almost like he’s not a communist or something
No.17715
>>17707I was on there before and while the majority opinion is "much evil commie" there's some using the jew card to try and coax reactionaries towards him.
No.17717
>>17634Looks like he used up his entire reserve of basedness with the Car Wash shit.
>>17620Speaking of which, Moro is pretty much in political asylum in Murka already. He moved there months ago for his current job (consultant for one of the companies he helped ruin wew) and odds are he will never risk coming back. Some dipshits still clung to him as a possible third way between Bozo and Lula, but he already said he won't run in 2022. At least he has the decency of stayng out of this shitshow he helped create, unlike the Keikos of the world. The Car Wash crew had always been different from the usual reactoid scum tbh, the scale of their crime is immense but on an individual level they're decent people.
No.17718
>>17713>the actual communistsI hope you don't say gonzalites.
I FUCKING HOPE YOU DON'T
No.17719
>>17713Which PCP? The Maoist nutters or the old Peruvian Communist Party from 1930?
No.17720
>>17707I wouldn't say I'm a /new/ or /pol/ oldfag but I was there 6 years ago. Let me tell you it's changed so much. I have no doubt that even if there was an initial divide they'll swiftly all fall in line behind whatever the CIA position is these days. I don't know what it is, I think there has been a legit psyop acting on the board, like the intel agencies have literally hooked themselves into the board someone and used AI to influence what occurs somehow. I think it's been used as a big social experiment for them and they have a bunch of humans caught up in it. I'm dead fucking serious
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17721
>>17713Fuck the baby boilers
No.17722
>>17713Ahhhh, so the Gonzaloite anon has returned without the flag.
Careful with this sectarian anons.
No.17723
>>17719The “Maoist nutters” are the rightful heirs to the original legacy, which was also in turn endorsed by the Pre-Fall Comintern. Cope harder
No.17725
>>17713Communist parties are no longer worth a single salt in the entire world. The only parties in touch with the people are parties that don’t even proclaim itself as anything but for the people. If a social Democratic Party does a lot for the people then that’s enough. Not some sectarian worthless communist party.
No.17726
>>17723>rightful heirsis gracefag larping as maoist now?
No.17727
>>17723kek, I knew it.
COPE harder, you fucking ultra.
No.17729
>>177206 years? You must be old as hell.
No.17730
>More than 90,500 votes lead
Pushing pushing pushingsandinistaSandinista
No.17732
>>17721Strange you accuse communists of boiling babies, when you shill for an ideology sponsored by the same elite that rapes and murders children and uses aborted fetal tissue as flavoring for soft drinks
No.17733
>>17723Ah okay, good. I was worried there for a second
No.17734
>>17732>aborted fetal tissue as flavoring for soft drinksbased
No.17735
>>17731Cope harder Maoist. Peru Libre will destroy any wannabe communist and Maoist party and reign their coward sectarian asses in.
No.17736
>>17729I'm a zoomer, I just got on 4chan during high school.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17737
>>17736That’s sad. I didn’t use 4chan until well into my mid 20s.
No.17738
I would celebrate but we have to wait for the results from US, Spain, and Italy which are full of guerros. I’m anxious about how they will boost Keiko up
No.17739
>>17735I am not even maoist, but that's delusional lmao
We have two trolls in the thread: The one liberal and the gonzalite.
No.17740
>glowzaloite accusing others of supporting murder
lol
No.17741
Real deal: There's a massive amount of fraud going on in the foreign votes right now.
This makes me think Keiko could pull it off at the endsandinistaSandinista
No.17742
>>17734Figures a liberal would endorse crimes against children and infants. I just hope you know that eventually it will be YOUR blood spilled, not that of the unborn
No.17743
>>17737>>17736i started with imageboards at like 12
No.17745
>>17742>muh life at conceptionLol eat shit
No.17746
>>17725registered democrats get out
No.17748
>>17739You’re the liberal talking about how Peru Libre isn’t communist enough and “better” like the Maoist and useless ML parties.
No.17749
>>17748how much time do we have to endure reformism until socialism actually happens. Whatever happened to revolution?
I support Castillo but I think it is healthy to have skepticism towards how successful his presidency is. This is the time to build dual power and force them to take anti-imperialist positions. Castillo will have to a be a tool for the masses and not cuck out like in Ecuador
No.17750
>>17720You might think you're being paranoid, but it wouldn't surprise me. Whatever value existed there (if there was any) is dead now, so eh why bother, but just browsing it off and on recently, I would notice threads pop up claiming glowies have taken it over and they're deleting any mention of it, and then those threads would disappear. Or threads veering toward discussions about U.S. roles in various plots up and vanishing. I mean, who knows, but it sets off my alarm.
>>17741You have been dooming from day one. Have some faith.
>>17742I realize abortion is illegal in Peru and it's a socially conservative country. But you don't have to extend that to a universal principle which everyone in the world has to follow. It's a very weird thing for self-proclaimed Marxists to demand, but that's why they call it a cargo cult.
No.17751
Vaush's fan base said Pedro Castillo is bad because he doesn't like the globohomo and transhumanists
No.17752
>>17751Too bad Castillo sold his soul to them
No.17755
>>17748>>17749I think the position I took earlier really is the correct one. Castillo isn't a communist, but that's okay, neither was the Cuban Revolution.
What truly matters is outcome. And in Latin America, social democracy is too left-wing for the imperialist powers. So there will be pressure. Likely sanctions. The whole drill.
transhumanismTranshumanism No.17756
>>17751Link them seething
sandinistaSandinista No.17758
>>17749…
That is the point I have been doing in all of these threads.
The party (which is leftist, and marxist, and leninist) knows that they don't have it easy, and it is of the upmost importance that they develop and give strength of the unions, the 3 coops that still exist from Velasco, workers,etc.
It has been pointed out in interviews (sadly I can't remember one exactly, I don't think is in the one I posted).
What Peru Libre has promised firstly is that the pandemia will be controlled, vaccination and hospital beds in the worst hit country in the world.
Secondly, not forgetting the economy, this will need a vaccinated population and a state with more power to tax the rich and renegotiate treaties and contracts for the national resources.
Economy and health are in the pinacle of importance and they deserve the attention of the state, party and people.
No.17759
>>17749During the Cold War, when a socialist ever got to power, whether it be through election, coup, revolution etc. the USSR would immediately dispatch experts, material, weapons, funds, etc. to help them to construct socialism and to defend them via nuclear deterrence. This is not a situation we have anymore, fragmented socialist-leaning countries must make concessions to survive, politically, economically and militarily. Sure, China will trade with you but they have a policy of non-interventionism. Unless we have a huge country like Brazil, India or Russia undergroing a quasi-Bolshevik revolution, we have to make conecessions.
No.17760
>>17756Go to their subreddit and their discord/ website. Ask about him.
No.17761
we are about to hit the 600 limit again
No.17763
>>17751Of course. Most of them are idpol obsessed lib troons anyways.
No.17764
>>17751Don't bring the idpol question.
It has been responded (even by hecking rancidenchilada).
If the LGBT friendly socdem option was more popular, the second round would have been Mendoza vs Keiko.
But it was Castillo vs Keiko. Sad for the collectives and their rightfull search of rights but they have compromises of not getting a worse hand that the one they have right now.
No.17765
>>17749It literally doesn’t matter because if you have a useless book club of a party that doesn’t do anything and does not have any mass support then it is useless. And I know what you’ll say: all parties must start somewhere. Yes but time speaks volumes, and if labor value can be measured by time, then these garbage parties have not used their time efficiently or usefully. If I have a small business that never grows and only builds up debt, there’s only a matter of time before I have to close down.
No.17766
>>17748>Peru Libre isn’t communist enoughno, moron, I am not the one saying that Peru Libre should erase other communists out of Peru because succdem will make communism great again.
No.17768
>>17751Imagine subjecting the Peruvian people to another five years (or more) of neoliberalism with fascist characteristics when they already have a catastophic covid death rate and the economy being in shambles just because one guy has said something problematic about LGBT. Unbelievably chauvinistic.
No.17769
>>17685I think Jason keeps quiet, because his theory is pretty detached from political reality. He never talks about actual social movements, which have a unclear/fuzzy character. That is why he dismissed the yellow vests at first and why he never commented the protests in Thailand or the situation in Myanmar. He keeps quiet on a lot of issues, because he doesn't want to turn out to be wrong. The first time when he really stepped in shit, was when he denounced Gadaffi. Afterwards he realized his mistake and he revised his position. I think this is the reason, he simply doesn't want to repeat such misconception again.
No.17770
>>17755This. The material conditions are set to make him either socialist or a frontal communist.
No.17771
>>17762Damn Vaush is an artist at blurring the distinction between retard and fed, did this dude really just say "critical support for the FBI"?
No.17772
>>17765This is a great post.
No.17773
>>17685why do jews ruin everything?
No.17774
>>17759Peru greatest trade partner is China. State companies control various mines, energy companies,etc.
I hope everything goes in good terms it results in cooperation and development.
>>303669>>17763>>17773….
Don't be so obssesed
No.17775
>>17766And I say Peru Libre should forcefully bring all the leftist and communist parties in line, any party that does not participate in achieving Peru Libre’s goals should be excommunicated and deprived of resources. Sectarianism should be curbed from the left by any means possible, even if it means threatening to dissolve a party. Any socialist party in Peru that doesn’t back Castillo should be either dissolved or deprived of resources.
No.17778
>>17639check archive.org yourself, nerd
No.17779
>>17762Critical support for imperialism
No.17782
>>17767I fucking love Hispanic and mestizo girls(male and female)
No.17783
>>17768It's incredibly chauvinistic. Highest (confirmed) mortality rate from COVID in the world. You can just send this
>>17776 to them to quiet them down though. But ultimately it doesn't matter because it's not up to Vaush's fanbase. The decision is up to Peruvians.
>>17771It's all very performative. Like he has to start out saying "fuck the FBI!" with a lot of bombast (as if that means anything) and then immediately shifts to critical support for our cops.
No.17784
>>17781people should archive them to archiving websites anyways.
No.17785
So this guy is basically Peruvian Stalin? I think it makes sense considering hes running against the daughter of the guy who crushed Shining Path.
No.17786
>>17777based hertzfeldt poster
also just read last thread, CTRL+F "symbolism"
No.17787
>>17785Humm, no. He is more of an second Evo.
No.17789
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No.17790
<The lead shrunk to less than 90000 votes
Not a good sign AT ALLsandinistaSandinista
No.17792
>>17790What happens if there's no clear majority?
No.17793
>>17790Calling it: Keiko is about to stage a comeback and fuck us in the ass big time.
sandinistaSandinista No.17794
>>17790Will kekido be able to pull a fast one on Pedro or is the election basically settled.
No.17795
>>1779250,01/49,99 is a clear majority
sandinistaSandinista No.17797
>>17794She still can do it technically
>>17796We shall wait and see
sandinistaSandinista No.17798
REJECT ☭ &
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No.17799
>>17785No you retard.
We seriously need a thread to explain Castillo.
No.17800
>>17797>She still can do it technicallyHow likely is that possibility?
No.17801
>>17796what, are you seriously shocked? leftypol will simp for whomever they see looking red enough and they don't care whether it's real
sendero_luminosoSendero Luminoso No.17802
>>17796>embraces marxism leninsm>anti communistyou gotta be retarded if you don't see that he's doing cover. this was around the time he dipped in the polls too
No.17803
>>17800Consistently enough to be highly worrying
sandinistaSandinista No.17805
>>17801gonzalo is in jail lol
No.17806
>>17801based sendero retardoso anon
No.17807
>>17804Oh god I am hooooooooping
No.17809
>USA still not in!
No.17810
>>17796B-bros… we lost… we should’ve voted for the samurai.
No.17811
>>17808“We have fought against terrorism and we will continue to do so. (…) We are going to defend the constitutional rights of the country, there is no Chavismo, there is no communism, there is no need to take away your house, "he said.
ak-47AK-47 No.17812
>>17783>Highest (confirmed) mortality rate from COVID in the world.I have a feeling they are just the only hard hit place doing competent testing.
No.17814
>>17813does he know hes a meme ?
No.17815
>>17813His name is Giga chad
No.17818
>>17793Is Evo like Xi? Do socdems nationalize shit?
No.17821
>>17813yes that photo looks very real anon
No.17823
>>17818Why do you think they couped Morales lmfao
No.17824
Who wants to make the next thread this one's bumplocked already
No.17827
>>17808If he doesn’t understand what communism is then we lost.
No.17828
>>17823Thats what I mean, is he a social democrat or a communist? Bernie wasn't going to take over Exxon and Boeing.
No.17829
>>17824Hum, give me a second
No.17830
There's no hope for keiko now unless they fraud
No.17831
>>17827he is telling you he understands. He is refuting the communism takes your home bullshit and saying no one is gonna take your soda n shit.
ak-47AK-47 No.17832
>>17830You're underestimating Burger vote impact.
No one is safe from that unless Pedro gets to a 150k lead at least.
sandinistaSandinista No.17833
new thread
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new threadtranshumanismTranshumanism
No.17834
>>17831You don’t know that
No.17835
New thread
>>303749
>>303749
>>303749
And I fucked up in reaching to the other threads,sorry
No.17836
>>17832it would be really funny if america basically couped peru electorally
No.17837
>>17828This board spergs about latin american socdems a lot, but for the most part they're way superior to western socdems. Evo and Chavez nationalized a fuck ton of industries.
No.17838
>>17834Yeah we do , leftists always get attacked from rightoids with the argument that "commies are going to take away your toothbrush". Take a look at Fujimori's rhetoric and you see that Castillo had to do some cover, with the "Nacionalizar no es expropiar " ads.
No.17840
I don’t think I’ve been happier to be wrong about this election, comrades. What a time to be alive.eurekaEureka
No.17842
>>17796>>17801because "communism" is a spooky word, just call it "worker-owned free market" and win on the same platform
No.17843
Lead is getting bigger.Pencil: 8,552,117
Kek'd: 8,459, 997
Found a live election results update stream of the election:
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/NewsHeadlines No.17846
>>17723>denounced by the USSR>denounced by China>denounced by literally everyoneDilate
No.17847
>>17801Gonzalo has been in jail since 1992 boy
Shining Path has been irrelevant for over 2 decades at this point
Stop being so white, you fat American cunt
No.17848
>>17755>>17845
>neither was the Cuban Revolution.Initially, at least. The bay of pigs invasion blessed us with Castro going full commie.
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