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IF YOUR IP IS BANNED ON META USE THE MATRIX WAITING ROOM
https://matrix.to/#/#leftypol-antechamber:matrix.orgLogs:
https://leftypol.org/log.php?board=leftypolFree onions:
http://ojzfy6mtnjkg4pbkf6fjnty22naczpek253skjm4crwftbohwgevbjyd.onion>>36517I also got banned for "/pol/" for 3 days, and I don't even know what post was considered "/pol/". I'm starting to think this is some kind of mistake or whatever. I've been browsing Leftypol for years and I've never got a single ban, what the hell.
Ban ID: 45312
>>36517>>36522Te baniram também? Kkkkkkkkkkkk
Vou considerar isso uma oportunidade para fazer carinho na grama, olhar para as flores dos ipês e jacarandás…
>>36536>anarcrapTo my knowledge, only I am an anarchist among the volunteers.
>rruophobes None of them are russophobes, we even have one Russia moderator, although I'll let them clarify that if they'd like. Yes, I said some mean things in /leftypol/, sorry.
>>36539forgot pic*
Not important but my lttle joke doesn't work without it.>>36540I'm the OP for the Gaza general you fucks are to lazy to ever re-post once it's hits the limit. You banned me for calling out your misogynist nonsense because it was easier than confronting your reactionary bullshit.
If that's to difficult just do the fucking OP or make it a cyclical. reeeee-
>>36541>I'm the OP for the Gaza general you fucks are to lazy to ever re-post once it's hits the limit.I like that thread, thank you for the OP.
>You banned me for calling out your misogynist nonsense because it was easier than confronting your reactionary bullshit.I can't speak to this because I wasn't involved in the ban nor do I go on twitter so idk what happened.
>If that's to difficult just do the fucking OP or make it a cyclical. reeeee-So tl;dr we are moving away from cyclicals and generals as a whole, as that shit domminates /leftypol/ as a board and we found that 90% of our moderation was just merging small threads to the gens. You can read about it here:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/1946355.html#q1989135As for the thread, my question for you is what was so necessary for the general to exist?
Banning me isn't going to change anything Holocaust fans 😙😙😇😇😙😇😇
Being unable to follow implications and literal mindedness are schizo traits, the vol who banned me for a week for spam should be checked for it.
Especially since they did a whole site ban for SPAM.
Reference post
>>>/leftypol/2023746 since the post explaining my method got deleted
Obviously this can only be viewed as spam by someone who lacks a sense of humour, another schizotrait.
😇😙😙😇😇😇😇😇
>>36549More seriously
>>>/siberia/581860I only quoted that, yet you think you're quoting me. I was half kidding when I turned the schizo accusations on you because you can't diagnose over text like that.
Now the uncharitable reading is that you really should consider the possibility you are the schizo here.
No joke.
>>36542>I like that thread, thank you for the OP. You're welcome. You can thank me by keeping it clean, something i noticed you haven't been doing lately despite reports.
>I can't speak to this because I wasn't involved in the ban nor do I go on twitter so idk what happened. I don't use twitter. it was posted on this site though before you deleted it, please don't be disingenuous, you very obviously had internal conversation about removing critique related to this and banning anyone critiquing you.
>So tl;dr we are moving away from cyclicals and generals as a whole, as that shit domminates /leftypol/ as a board and we found that 90% of our moderation was just merging small threads to the gens. Yes. you explicitly ignored everyone who told you why it was a dumb idea so why on earth do you want to re-litigate it now?
>As for the thread, my question for you is what was so necessary for the general to exist?See the previous conversations we had about this already which you decided to completely ignore.
Why can jannies never be sincere? why is it always this haughty arrogance and disenguinity with these fags?
>>36542>I can't speak to this because I wasn't involvedIn the previous moderation thread that anon criticized the conduct of whatever retard is running the twitter account. A mod (Misato?) then removed several posts critical of the twitter account host and them, and banned OP.
Can't remember of the top of my head what the criticism was, but I don't recall it being remove let alone ban worthy.
>>36537 is loosely related, as my post in the discussion was removed as well (and my response was softer, even, than OPs). Removing Misato as a mod should seriously be put on the table. If nothing else a stern talking to is in order.
/leftypol/ was a mess the last few days, and instead of moderating ANY board, Misato hops on only on /meta/, opines, then removes posts critical of the twitter account host and himself. Ridiculous.
Tepid thank you to the moderation who actually cleaned up /leftypol/ this past week. At least some of you can keep it together.
>>36562Anon you don't understand. Jannies are infallible and it's not their fault women are bitches. Anyone who calls out their non-existent misogony is very clearly a, quote, "Concern Troll"
Ignore the fact that they are right now leaving up posts like: >>2024265 & >>2024274 but actively deleting anyone who calls it out for the misogo crap it is, okay? If women don't want to be thrown in the wood-chipper maybe they should have thought of not being total bitches!!!
>>36565>>36564O and Sandanista anon justifying comfort women? Don't worry, he's one of us he just gets a little heated sometimes! a 24hour board ban will suffice!
**The disgust i feel for jannies is actually palpable over this shit.
Properly vile.**
>>36566>I don't use twitter. it was posted on this site though before you deleted it, I as a moderator rarely delete shit, and I almost never delete in /meta/ of all places. I got a reputation for moving things to other threads or leaving them up to serve as reminders for what's not acceptable on the site, provided they ain't too gorey.
>please don't be disingenuous, you very obviously had internal conversation about removing critique related to this and banning anyone critiquing you.For one I'm not whoever it is you're upset at about this twitter thing, but for another "internal conversation" to the most of my knowledge was a moderator deleting a comment because it attacked his character rather than the argument, and I don't think anyone even replied to it tbh we all have lives outside the site. There's no conspiracy to silence you, trust me bud.
>Yes. you explicitly ignored everyone who told you why it was a dumb idea so why on earth do you want to re-litigate it now?I'm one of the few moderators who isnt involved in any of the voting or anything related to site management, I abstain from all that shit, write your criticism to them.
>>36565Banned as soon as I saw it, I only just logged in now, you can verify with the logs.
>>36563Ok thanks for letting us know!
>>36569>Banned as soon as I saw it, I only just logged in now, you can verify with the logs. And yet, your fellow moderator, Comet, sat there for an hour leaving such misogynist shit up despite reports whilst deleting critique of said grotesque messages.
What I can't stand about you people, you take 0 responsibility as a collective, whenever one responds it's always this 'well i individually was not involved so.' Well, isn't that convenient. The jannies can act like the most obscene excuse for leftists but it's never nothing to do with whatever mod comes to address said issues.
Collective moderation until criticism is leveled then the worst offenders are conspicuously quiet and someone who was conveniently not involve comes to 'address' the issue.
I know misogony is a part of image boards traditionally but someone who claims to be a leftist sitting there defending the comments 'feminists should be killed with hammers, thrown in to woodchippers and so on is really beyond the pale.
I know there is every likelihood you will delete this, put on an anfem flag and pretend i'm being "Concern trolling" like usual but It really does glitch out my brain how you do not see this very obvious thing that i see,the unacceptable level of misogony from, seemingly most, jannies who give users or themselves license to be out and out misogynist, or in the least, willing to act in defense of said jennies.
That you cannot see this and think 'yea this is explictly not acceptable from leftists' is so indecipherable as to give brain damage.
>>36570<when i go into /USApol/ every day and act like a reactionary freak for hours at a time it's actually just you pretending to be me!What? Is this really the strat you're gonna go with?
I know you're dumb but, sincerely, think about it and try again. It's obviously not a winning one.
>>36574you're butthurt and now you're spamming falseflag posts, yes
keep at it, it's hilarious and at least more high effort than your usual faggotry
>>36571>>36572The tor node was throttled to defend against a barrage of radiding we've had today. I think it's about time to lift the ban (if it hasn't already been lifted). Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>36573>And yet, your fellow moderator, Comet, sat there for an hour leaving such misogynist shit up despite reports whilst deleting critique of said grotesque messagesI think you're being a little extreme, I agree the messages were grotesque, but I'm sure Comet was not simply twiddling their thumbs like Nero, a reminder we're a volunteer force with other things more pressing in our immediate lives.
>>36578>some plain racist remarks coming from that same IP, and as such, given no post history prior to the remarks in /meta/ and the bad actingSo you are Misato, then? That is at least what is logged in the banlog. Furthermore, the rest of your post indicates plain incompetence as you would not understand how tor works. Though putting it altogether it seems you are simply lying through your teeth.
>>36577Considering how some mods have been acting lately hostility should be expected. Granted, doesn't reflect on you but anons gonna ragepost.
>>36577Appreciate the reply.
>The tor node was throttled to defend against a barrage of radiding we've had today. I think it's about time to lift the ban (if it hasn't already been lifted). Sorry for the inconvenience.Throttled or disabled?
>Sorry for the inconvenience.Anon, why don't mods just manually pre-approve posts during times of spamming? It's simple to do with a filter or algorithm, or just manually. It's not like there are too many posts to do this.
>The tor node was throttled to defend against a barrage of radiding we've had today.What king of raiding? I didn't see any at the time the tor node was disabled.
>>36581>but anons gonna ragepost.Honestly valid.
>>36583>Throttled or disabled?Disabled. All TORposters are treated as the same IP, so moderators simply ban the IP to disable it. This is what happened.
>Anon, why don't mods just manually pre-approve posts during times of spamming?Yes this is how
I personally like to handle these things, which is what I did last night, I just navigate my web-browser to only list posts from TOR and delete them as I see fit. But I am a newfag-mod, and when more-experienced mods make a call to temp-disable the node, I don't usually object.
>What king of raiding? I didn't see any at the time the tor node was disabled.It was the fallout from some shit-stirring in the /usa/ thread, an anon was samefagging and spamming under a number of different alias, and a couple were under TOR.
>>36581No it's me, and the IP I was discussing was obviously not the tor endpoint. How could it not have any prior history otherwise anon?
>>36583>Anon, why don't mods just manually pre-approve posts during times of spamming?Because that would require a significant reworking of how the website functions
>>36577>but I'm sure Comet was not simply twiddling their thumbs like Nero,Didn't say he was twiddling his thumbs retard, he was actively deleting posts in opposition to the post about feminists needing to he beaten with a clawhammer.
Why are you directly lying?
>>36578None of this is true if you're referring to baning me for 'concern trolling' when I called out your misogyny.
Lies, lies, lies.
This is why nobody likes jannies.
Why can't you just be normal, except these are bad politics to hold and just grow?
Jesus fucking Christmas…
>>36588And I'm sure you'll come away from doing that with some perfect reason why jannie dindu nothing wrong and the user-base which actually makes this website was the ones in the wrong….
Keep telling myself for 8 months I'm gone as soon as the war is over. I really despise you weirdos who feel the complulsive need to exercise for petty and personal reasons whatever small piece of power you are given.
Really was dumb enough to find it would get better with Pasquale and his endless abuse out of the picture but in hindsight it seems he only stood out for being the worst offender. Woman hating Comet nd Misato and all the rest are just as bad.
And retards on this site wonder for years and years why anarchism is such a strong tenancy in radical spaces.. As if the simple exercise of giving a few loosers online a tiny bit of power didnt make it abundantly clear. jfc.
>>36602ok so posting without the flag makes you reply to questions here, cool
but how did i derail the thread if the topic people were talking about started hours before i started posting? how is it spam when multiple people are talking about something?
i believe the posts were deleted because it made the people who did it uncomfortable, but that's just me
>>36603>>>/siberia/581748For one, this is clearly a massive bait thread, so anything under it and post itself is subject to deleting.
>i believe the posts were deleted because it made the people who did it uncomfortable, but that's just meWhat was the convo about?
>>36589Did you people seriously just 7-day site-ban me
'again, this time for telling a weird coomer /pol/ack making OP's asking for porn to fuck off?
What the fuck is actually wrong with you jannie faggots? why are you like this? I sincerely don't understand what would make you so warped.
Not beating the misogynist allegations, I'll tell you that.. Jesus fucking christ.
>>36651You still did it. you even went out of your way to ban the freak here
>>36648 >>36647It s
Can you jannies
please stop being misogo scum and get a fucking grip in this regard?
And if you can't can you not keep your misogo scummery within the bounds of /siberia/ where the rest of us don't go?
It's fucking vile and nobody except the most maladjusted freaks want to see it.
>>36655>>36654>>36653Weird obviously severe mentally ill /pol/ack asking for porn.**
(my mistake he wasn't the OP and i apparently didn't realize the extent of his mental health issues.)
>>36659What do you mean?
>>36681What posts do you mean?
>>36685Strawman cope
How tf can you even claim to “hate America” while shilling for the most aggressive asserters of US imperialism in human history?
>>36908I take offense to that having handled the gore spammer using TOR on the ukraine threads. That the TOR node is not being used for spam is because it has been made so inefficient for spamming that it is now more worthwhile to use clearnet botspam - which we shall handle as well. TOR being a lot safer (bar the FSLN schizophrenic) is a net improvement to TOR usability since it doesn't have to regularly get banned for being a spam vector.
Also if we were that assed about TOR as a method of ban evasion, we could just turn it off. We do not because we prefer it existing overall.
>>36908It's why they added 'Glownonymous', so every retard tourist and raider who would never otherwise read the faq is instantly made aware we have a tor-node.
We had so much less problems on the node before that and ever since they've been fixing the problems they created with their gay little captcha puzzle,
which they probably should be getting paid for because it's making someone bank, which obviously just exists to train improvements in AI object identification.
It's fucking shit because the node is unusable a lot now and when posting videos and stuff explicitly from the resistance there is a non-0 chance that i could well be committing a crime and have my doors kicked in for it, as silly and unrealistic as that probably sounds to our average burger users and mods, it is a serious possibility for people.
>>36912>>36914Removed for retarded bickering.
>>36918A more senior moderator can confirm this but I believe it was replaced with the new board /latam/, a latin-american catered board.
>>36921>>36922I'll review the shit that sounds like spam and general retardation, but these politics aren't generally out-right banned. Now, I see the threat-model, trust, I can identify how this can be a /pol/ plot to shift the overton window, if you believe in that kinda thing, but I'm hoping we don't make the decision to ban all reactionary content as /pol/ does for revolutionary
(kek) content
>>36952I support a one state solution with Israel as an autonomous district in Palestine, including Jewish reservation being pushed back to 1940s areas such as Tel Aviv, and the forced eviction of settlers from areas taken since the 1960s.
I am also fine with a two-state solution, which is the official policy of the Chinese Foreign Ministry.
As I've said before, pro-Palestine movements do not need anti-Semitism except from local extremists like Hamas, and that's not something to be welcomed, but something unavoidable that still has to be criticized.
>>36953>I support a one state solution with Israel as an autonomous district in Palestineso a two state solution
this is like the anarchist cope of "uhm actually it's not a state, it's an autonomous council of adhoc federated guilds", it's a fucking state
>>36954>conspiracy theoryhappens to be the truth tho
>>36955Read up on it, as well as genetic analysis of Ashkenazim Jews.
I mean, this is why I accuse you of being a Mossad glowposter, because this is ultra-wrecker radicalization that does little to help pro-Palestinian movements in the West.
>>36956>genetic analysis of Ashkenazim Jewsi wish i could read up on it, but unfortunately DNA tests are banned in israel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_testing#In_Israeli wonder why that is, lol
>radicalizationdo you know where you're posting? how is this a bad thing?
>>36955The two-state solution is promoted by most pro-Palestinian states, even the Chinese Foreign Ministry that stands by the Palestinian right to self-defense.
And thanks for making my point for me. We have a serious issue with extremism in pro-Palestine threads, and we end up looking like an anti-Semitic hate group when we simply oppose Israel's genocide in Gaza and the continued policy of Israeli colonialism.
>>36958oh my god, china backs two state solution? i didn't know that, i guess i'm pro two state solution now because i can't possibly disagree with anything china does
i'm also pro sanctions on the DPRK because china did that in 2017 and i'm also mentally retarded
>>36959https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazar_hypothesis_of_Ashkenazi_ancestryThe basic point comes out to, extremism in pro-Palestinian threads alienates moderates (like me).
You are engaging in glow-wrecker behavior, and it has to stop.
>>36961You quoted Wikipedia to show that Israel bans genetic testing.
I am a moderate insofar as I am not calling for killing all Jews in historical Palestine if they do not leave.
As I've stated in the thread, I want an end to Israeli apartheid, I want an end to settler colonialism, I want peace and justice for Palestine.
But calling for the eviction of all Jews (which is what you and tank-anon have called for) is beyond the pale, and while Iran doesn't care, Iran's backers (China, Russia) do because they make good money off the Israelis.
End of the day, neither Hamas nor Hezbollah are socialist / Marxist organizations, the most we can do is to give them critical support in their anti-colonial struggle. But it is valid to not support their maximalist agenda even if we appreciate the good fighting they are doing on behalf of Palestinians.
Is your real chant "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be judenfrei"? Free I can tentatively support, once we've clarified what Palestine is. Judenfrei is plain anti-semitism.
>>36962>You quoted Wikipedia to show that Israel bans genetic testingbecause it's a simple fact you can look up and verify for yourself like laws in a country, wikipedia is alright for things like that
it is not at all reliable when it comes to things like recent history or contentious political topics
>judenfreiwell the juden in palestine can either stay in palestine and learn to behave and not do apartheid or they can get killed/deported, it's very simple
>>36967maybe due to the fact that allowing them to buy up land with the clear intent to form an independent state was an obvious catastrophic mistake?
i would “chimp out” too if people started moving into where i live and building up an independent genocidal apartheid state, i’d rather suicide bomb myself before living under real and actually existing ZOG like the palestinians do
>>36968Except that it was Arabs themselves selling the land, and for a much longer time than the Palestine was a British colony, also the British limited Jewish settlements to the east of the Jordan river, and never adequately responded to Arab mobs, often siding with them
>genocidal apartheid stateYou can keep these Arab bourgeois-nationalist slogans for yourself
>>36965I'm the person who brought up complaints about "anti-Zionists" here simply descending into antisemitism.
I call for the destruction of the American Empire, but I have no serious desire for the US to be destroyed or for its inhabitants to be deported back to their countries of origin, which is much more difficult considering that many people are of mixed ethnicity.
Important pic
>>36970So far I haven't seen any anti-zionist argument that wasn't antisemitic
>>36969>Except that it was Arabs themselves selling the landand africans collaborated with the europeans to capture and sell rival tribes as slaves, what point are you even trying to make? how are the palestinians responsible for jewish colonialism?
they shouldn't have allowed them to buy up land, hindsight is 20/20
>>36974>Yisraeli was raised catholic so i know what "israel" actually means from the bible, it's not some piece of land with borders
you cannot trick me
>>36979Torah is literally just the Pentateuch
>just kidding, i know from the other posts what you areI am certain that you're a retard (an antisemite)
>>36980>it's just the first five books of the bible! believe me unterm goy anon!yeah sure thing bro, just don't forget to omit to people that the new testament was written in greek
what are translations and falsifications of the originals, for $500
>>37025>How did we get here? How do we improve it? The moderators have noticed a lull in post quality, and we are working on correcting it.
>How did we get here? How do we improve it? I believe this is being implemented.
>the jannies actually do their job in cleaning up the main board,Valid.
>generalsWe're moved away from generals for the moment.
>it's probably the same two or three people who hang out in the Matrix with the jannies and think due to their bubble it's actually good content.I don't think it's the bubble necessarily, I think it's the monthly child-sacrifices we make that make us Matrixces a tight-knit community
(joke)>>37027>>37031>>37032>>37033>>37035Deleted for being retarded bickering, please take this to /siberia/.
>>37037>We're moved away from generals for the moment. Well you might want to think about reversing it seeing how it is objectively ,aking the website worse, despite whatever goals you had in mind.
Look at the cataloge right fucking now. it's actually a joke.
It's really not that difficult, see dogshit? delete and ban, you're instant with this stuff when it's personal critisism directed towards jannies why cannot you be the same when it comes to maintaining board quality? I proved this point completely earlier today when i made OP as a thread on /leftypol/ and it got deleted in minutes before the janny left the deluge of
other low-effort trash threads to remain, obviously seeing it all as perfectly fine content somehow.
This is simple stuff, there is nothing that needs to be 'worked on'.
>>37047>>37037examples of the absolute trash you people are apparently pushing as good content:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2046838.html#q2046838https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2046664.htmlhttps://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2047125.htmlhttps://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2047193.htmlhttps://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2047415.htmlhttps://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2047163.htmlSome of these were not even coherent, like the last one? it reads like a drunkanon got confused trying to send a text message to someone.
Just from the first 2 pages perhaps. I feel like i'm being very generous against many unincluded too but come on, this is very much bottom of the barrel trash.
What is your logic process when you see this on the front page or in the reports that leads you to say, 'nah, this is fine'?
>>37057Thanks, top post was the pure kino Accidental Daeth of an Anarchist so that caught my eye! i'll keep my eye on it.
Honestly, if the jannies have accepted internally they can't improve the place for whatever reason then they should at least pin this on the front page recognising that nukechan is at least making an attempt at improvement, it would be the honest thing to do.
>>37062no, any mod can review it. there actually working on a feature to make it so a different mod has to review so the person who bans
cant be the same who denies the appeal.
but afaik that hasnt been implemented yet
>>37148the police department don't care you'r a communist.
You're more likely to go up the jail for posting palestine solidarity stuff, but generally the police are more interested in people posting on Twitter and Facebook than niche forums.
>>37144>As of right now, the maximum post length is of 4k characters. Should I ask the rest of staff if we should increase it?Yes, there are no good reason for char-limits and it's very annoying to have to go back and shorted or cut articles (NTA, just ime posting news).
>>37149> there are no good reason for char-limitsSpam prevention and keeping the website usable in such cases,
I'll wait News Anon for an opinion on the matter, since he seems to actually use a lot of text.
>>37226 (me)
Excuse me, the idpol part is the open acceptance of nationalism, regionalism, and orientalism.
Making a joke at the expense of men is nothing compared to filling up this board with nationalist shillcraft
>>37319 continued
The PIG HUNTER 2 thread on /leftypol/ has been turned to shit from the Houdini shilling and reaction to it.
>>37319Same thing happening again. The mechanics of an imageboard mean that this kind of problem requires staff intervention, like a public warning and then deletions, the idealist 'just ignore it' approach doesn't work on a topic threaded anon-board format.
If mods don't handle this blatant shilling, posters will keep getting mad and reply, leading the shill/s to JAQ off with more ads, completing the derailing which hurts the whole thread. It's a classic marketing tactic and it's already happened twice in that thread alone - force a meme until people complain, then use those complaints as excuses to openly shill in reply.
>>37360Still doing the banning from all boards thing, despite how stupid that is. At least keep /meta/ open.
>>37361No problem, spamming slurs and low quality posts is totally not against the board rules or anything. /r
Fuck off!
>>37364<People complain about absent moderation>Probably just overreacting>make fun of them<Turns out, they were rightAt least bother to check FIRST, before you stupidly dismiss something, dumbass!
Picrel is still allowed, apparently. It's still there.
>>37358That's typescript, which compiles to javascript. Nothing to do with PHP
>>37352Feature requested from the userbase. To create a thread you must make the message at least 200 characters long; with the exception of /siberia/, where the body must be at least 50 characters.
>>37365That's the most shitposty shitpost that mankind has ever seen
>>37353Marxigger, Anarchigger, Syndicaligger, Tankigger, Maoigger, Westigger, Heidegger,
It's like I'm really /pol/ing!
Anti-campigger, Modigger, Moffigger, Bloodgasmigger…
I think I'll graduate to calling Moffin Moffiuyghur in the future.
What left-wing?
In what world is this promoting genocide?
Telling what's going to happen next oh, excuse me, Afrin didn't serve as an example, and that the rojavists had to let go of their pretentious US-backed position and integrate themselves with Assad to save the Arab republic is genocidal fantasies? Or won't it be true that 30+ deaths are meaningless for what's to come, and isn't it true that Assad moved mountains to give them statehood, despite how no other Arab republic even considered it?
Get a grip, janny. You perfectly know very well I am right. That's why you banned me.
Who's more socialist now? The ones holding the banner of socialism in the Ba´ath party or the ones whose theory comes from an anticommunist bookchin?
So now people must worship, and never criticize the rojavists when they became direct pawns for the US? C'mon, lecture me.
In the meantime, other janitors able to see this blatant stupidity can lift it, if they want. Whatever.
>>37403 (me)
In fact it was already removed. This seems excessive when all I did was all caps.
>>37319That guy is actively spamming up threads advertising his shit with the "self-made hustler" sob story.
His politics make no fucking sense. He claims to be an ancom one day, the next he claims he will go to build a party. Why the fuck do mods still allow this vague "leftist" advertisement shit on the site? Are we gonna have a store page with Che Guevara tees next or what?
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2080405.htmlWhy sage a thread and ban the op? There's a good discussion of Marxism going on there.
Also what rules did the op break by saying that proletarians must be productive? It's a provoking statement and I'm not sure if I disagree but I don't really understand why it would be a taboo subject.
>>37464it's a struggle enough to find people who have actually read Marx on the internet, we don't need to start banning people for having a different opinion.
Again, I am not the OP and don't have a big stake in the argument, just found it interesting to read and felt it's silly to begin banning people for having heterodox interpretations of Marx (although I don't know who is hetero and who is orthodox in the discussion.)
>>37463>>37465The reason why it is banned is because it is wrecking. While to a certain extent different interpretations are reasonable or even useful, this kind of bullshit hair splitting where we have to apparently discard the idea that the majority of people are proletarians, that socialism is part of a broader left wing historical struggle, and are supposed to believe that certain nations/ethnic groups are 'inherently reactionary' is clearly just there to demoralise and divide any kind of left wing movement. This is literally part of fed COINTELPRO successor programs, there have been better pics than this explaining the tactics which I've seen previously on leftypol but this is the best one I can find right now;
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/Of course it is possible that user is just a highly dedicated troll or schizo but the effect is the same.
>>37467Ok well if this is your stance why not add it to the rules?
I don't know seems a bit weird to be modding people's interpretation of Marx. Although not exactly a rare thing in the history of western leftism. Debate addict type behaviour.
I've always felt proletariat to be a descriptive rather than moral category and no the only revolutionary class either when you consider the unwaged, peasants etc .
>>37471The rules have not been updated for a very long time unfortunately as nobody has been able to come up with a draft that people can agree on compared to the status quo. Also - the poster who has created this controversy clearly does view the proletariat as a moral category not just a descriptive one. The view that proletarians are all wage workers (barring exceptional circumstances like they get the majority of their income from investments) is the more descriptive position.
>>37472Of course open discussion should be allowed in theory but if you have no standards you just end up as /pol/. How is it fair to the other users for one person who constantly ban evades to be allowed to derail every thread with his repetitive anticommunist bullshit?
>>37473None of the discussion resembles /pol/ in the slightest. It's a very bookish argument that's clearly between left wingers with different interpretations.
Which is fine btw, leftypol is, by definition non sectarian. It's what people like about this place. Plus you've just admitted there's no rule about it .
Tell you what, draft a rule that would allow you to remove such discussions and let's see what it looks like
>>37474The rules (in long form in the constitution) state that the mods have the right to remove posts for any reason if they deem them to be detrimental to the board, leftypol is non sectarian yes but some positions are just wrecking as I said. If people like this poster ever create an influential org or movement then maybe we can readdress that.
>It's a very bookish argument that's clearly between left wingers with different interpretations. That poster doesn't even believe socialism is 'left wing'. So what claim do they have to be part of our movement?
>>37475Ok so the rule you want to implement is
'posters may not argue that retail work is unproductive. Anyone doing so will be banned'
Got it
>>37502Sakai posting is also not allowed if it gets disruptive. If there's a 'read settlers' topic I usually delete or sage it.
>>37507Yes saying that retail workers are not proletarians is banned if you want to simplify it.
>>37467>where we have to apparently discard the idea that the majority of people are proletariansdemocracybrained retard. people werent joking when saying basic marxism gets you banned here lmfao
i actually got my posts deleted for making fun of someone else who explicitly said cops and managers were proletarian, aka the class to whom communism is a
necessity and not a hobby or theoretical exercise
are mods ever going to enforce /isg/ containment again or are you going to keep selectively doing it to delete posts they don’t like?
>>>/leftypol/2081893 >>>/leftypol/2082740 how is this streamer and podcast crap different to hazrats shilling their crap and why do you leave this stuff up?
Mods please read this thread
>>37534 to avoid collateral damage from bans.
>>37544>deletes my posts and then lies about themi'm sure it was real in your head
what i said is that it might as well not be real because russia won't use it
sloppy job, janny
>>37555This one:
>>37518He was toiling a hazoid talking point, hence his post was deleted
>>37563i think there's still some good posts to read so i'm staying, but the mods are hellbent on running the place into the ground
if you post correct marxist theory on what constitutes the proletarian class as caballo admitted here
>>37467 zankaria bans you for being "hazoid", if you post anti-zionism
on a sabbath he bans you for "antisemitism", if you're pro DPR/LPR he bans you for "russian chauvinism", if you ban evade the month-long bans this faggot hands out like it's candy for normal posts you get banned
we can still play around and build the sandcastle like we've always done but now every once in a while there's this retard that comes along and stomps on it, do you get what i mean?
>>37467Lol, thanks to third-worldist retards people who actually know their communism and don't call anything under the sun proletarian get lumped together with chauvinists who believe nation/race determines your class.
>This is literally part of fed COINTELPRO successor programsLmfao, being a janny isn't the fucking vanguard party. It's just an imageboard, stop overmoderating beyond obvious shit like being a nazi.
>>37519>cops not being part of the proletariat is "post-left shit"This shithole is sooo cooked.
>>36480Care to explain why tf was my thread anchored but other claiming there are no women in communist space is not?
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2084442.html#q2084442Is this board just a cesspit of homophobic mysoginistic redfashs?
>>37573I mean like I said here
>>37566 what positives to the website does the tor node bring? All I can think of is better opsec which is fairly reasonable imho
>>37577>>37578>I feel like recently they've been chill.tbh everytime I've been banned expect for one or twoish was for shitflinging and baiting and that absolutely what I was doing at the time
just spitballin here but maybe somesort of policy of mods not being able to perform bans in threads they've been an active poster in? seems a little extra to me tho
>>37579I kind of have different thoughts on moderation. Unless a poster is truly spammy or trolly, I don't see why we can't let them post. I have seen many honest Nazis post all the time with the Nazi flag not banned because I guess he wasn't breaking the rules in the moment. But then the mods turn arpund and ban you because of bizzare readons for 5 months or stupid shit(I ban evade ofc), meanwhile the unabashed Nazi is posting everyday? Lol. You need to be a little more even handed.
Tbt, /pol/s moderation you can post 100% any text in a post but they are very sensitive about thread creation. I think this feels like a reasonable dichotomy in a way.
>>37610temporarily banning the TOR node has always been an option if a ton of spam is coming through it.
If you use the TOR node you may just get caught in the crossfire and thats the possibility you just have to deal with if you use it.
There's literally no other way, unless we want to get away from the anonymous nature of imageboards and make people have user accounts or something, which I'm not in favor of.
Um, I hope I'm not asking an uncomfortable question, but I am pretty curious about what is the story beneath the first rule stated here..
https://leftypol.org/meta/res/37647.html#37647It was not unusual in history to see commies ( just like everyone tbh ) whose personal judgements on things differed.
Whether it was the place of romantic nationalism in society or other aestetical values, romantic nationalist and conservative impulses were existent alongside internationalist and progressive impulses in communist movement.
So, I kinda didn't get why any mentions about a commie movement in USA utilizing romantic nationalism is now forbidden, as it is not something new in the wide horizon.. =/
>>37652Anon, let me enlighten you. I did not just "suddenly, now" ban the individual referenced in that rule. The purpose of the ordinances rule is to record the rules that result out of the mod votes.
He has been banned officially for
3-4 years now. That individual used to be affiliated with leftypol, however after some discord freakout he ended up calling US federal law enforcement on leftypol and baselessly accusing us of being pedophiles. In order to protect the site, the modocracy at that time voted to ban him and all mentions of him.
I was not an active mod at that time, but as far as I know that ruling has not been overturned. Therefore, like the wojak script ban from the bunkerchan era, it still officially stands.
Some mods have been inconsistent about enforcing the ban in the past, which may have given the false impression that this ban has been repealed, which was not the case.
>>37658A post was made in that thread about this over a week ago
>>37445Still no reply…
>>36480Can we just disable the character minimum for Siberia? We aren't enforcing it anyway
t. Caballo
>>37703Ok I figured out what the filter is for
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>>38018It is OC I made exclusively for the running joke in the thread. It looks like from the sharty because its from a variant image I edited.
And it makes no sense to upload it to leftypictures because it's a joke exclusive to that /sg/ alone.
Mods. I was banned for 5 days for this thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2095580.htmlAdditionally I was accused of "low effort, concern trolling" in the ban message. I'm not sure how writing a few paragraphs of text and making a diagram in Draw.io detailing my thoughts constitutes "concern trolling." I wanted to point out a dynamic difference between the imperial core and periphery. This was especially frustrating because one user accused me of a bunch of stuff and I spent a long time writing out the following detailed and thoughtful reply only to find my thread was locked and I was banned:
>>2095638OP here
>when he makes the implication that the bourgeoisie doesn't always engage in union busting, I don't think this and I certainly didn't say this. If you feel that this is implied somehow I apologize for not wording my post correctly but I in no way intended to imply it.
>and that automation is bad for the workersUnder capitalism it can be if it leads to technological unemployment. If you're thrown out of your job because it got automated, and you don't have another job quickly lined up, you 're screwed. that being said, we should direct our anger against the mode of production and not the instruments of production, as Marx states in Volume 1 of Capital. I am not a luddite, nor was I implying that automation is bad.
>two incorrect statements that he makes to build his bigger case: to put local workers against migrant workers.I was making the opposite case. I am always pointing out that migrant workers are being scapegoated for what is caused by the capitalist class. It is capitalist imperialism and climate change that drives global migration patterns. My aim is never to blame migrants. I might be one in the near future. Marx himself migrated from Germany to England, where he spent over half his life, although he was going into political exile, rather than seeking work.
>if you claim that a developed economy maintains a reserve army of labor, you are implicitly admitting that immigration won't affect salariesthe whole point of a reserve army of labor is to drive down wages by oversupplying labor. I don't see the contradiction here.
>the concept of reserve army of labor implies that people are artificially kept unemployedMarx distinguishes between "floating," "latent," and "stagnant" forms of the reserve army of labor
>>2095638OP here
>when he makes the implication that the bourgeoisie doesn't always engage in union busting, I don't think this and I certainly didn't say this. If you feel that this is implied somehow I apologize for not wording my post correctly but I in no way intended to imply it.
>and that automation is bad for the workersUnder capitalism it can be if it leads to technological unemployment. If you're thrown out of your job because it got automated, and you don't have another job quickly lined up, you 're screwed. that being said, we should direct our anger against the mode of production and not the instruments of production, as Marx states in Volume 1 of Capital. I am not a luddite, nor was I implying that automation is bad.
>two incorrect statements that he makes to build his bigger case: to put local workers against migrant workers.I was making the opposite case. I am always pointing out that migrant workers are being scapegoated for what is caused by the capitalist class. It is capitalist imperialism and climate change that drives global migration patterns. My aim is never to blame migrants. I might be one in the near future. Marx himself migrated from Germany to England, where he spent over half his life, although he was going into political exile, rather than seeking work.
>if you claim that a developed economy maintains a reserve army of labor, you are implicitly admitting that immigration won't affect salariesthe whole point of a reserve army of labor is to drive down wages by oversupplying labor. I don't see the contradiction here.
>the concept of reserve army of labor implies that people are artificially kept unemployedMarx distinguishes between "floating," "latent," and "stagnant" forms of the reserve army of labor:
<The relative surplus population exists in every possible form. Every labourer belongs to it during the time when he is only partially employed or wholly unemployed. In chapters 21 and 22 of his Finance Capital (1910), Rudolf Hilferding brought up the reserve army of labour. The second time he brings it up is with regards to immigration in chapter 22:
<[. . .] German capitalism, during the last two periods of prosperity, encountered a labour shortage and had to provide the necessary recruits to the industrial reserve army by encouraging immigration. American capitalism has also had to resort to immigrants, on an even larger scale, whereas the slowing down of development in England is manifested in mounting unemployment. Hence the source of emigration from Europe has become confined to south and south-east Europe and to Russia, while at the same time the demand for wage labour has increased enormously as a result of rapid economic growth. Those states which exclude Asiatic immigrants for social or political reasons find their development hampered by the limited size of the working population; and this obstacle is most difficult to overcome precisely in those regions where the prospects for capitalist development are best, as for example in Canada and Australia.In his 1917 work Imperialism and the World Economy, Bukharin brings up the reserve army of labour when comparing the effects of immigration and trade:
<If the international movement of commodities expresses the "mutation process" in the socio‑economic world organism, then the international movement of the populations expresses mainly the redistribution of the main factor of economic life, the labour power. Just as within the framework of "national economy" the distribution of labour power among the various production branches is regulated by the scales of wages which tend to one level, so in the framework of world economy the process of equalising the various wage scales is taking place with the aid of migration. The gigantic reservoir of the capitalist New World absorbs the "superfluous population" of Europe and Asia, from the pauperised peasants who are being driven out of agriculture, to the "reserve army" of the unemployed in the cities. Thus there is being created on a world scale a correspondence between the supply and demand of "hands" in proportions necessary for capital. I find it very disheartening when soyjak party spam and CSAM that I report stays up for hours but a thread I made about imperialism is taken down in minutes. I don't understand what rule I even violated.
>>38064It assumed people here are "magacoms". They are not. These morons are laughed off every single time and its better not to make them feel welcome.
The " is hip hop CIA propaganda" is a retarded paranoid OP but it has nothing to do with your thread.
>>38065>It assumed people here are "magacoms"I see the confusion, and I probably could've phrased it less provocatively, but I the question really wasn't directed MAGAcoms beyond making fun of them. I was mostly looking for responses and analysis from normal people actually trying to discuss the movement.
>The " is hip hop CIA propaganda" is a retarded paranoid OP but it has nothing to do with your thread.IMO it makes for a good comparison point. If something like that is fine, I don't see what's wrong with my thread.
>>38067Okay, I will.
Maybe I'm overstepping a bit, but would it be possible to merge my original thread into /isg/ or something? It'd be weird to have two threads on the same topic floating around.
why are posts like
>>>/leftypol/2097401 allowed?
he is harassing russian users by (1) implying they are responsible for the decisions of the russian military command and (2) taking ukrainian demoralization propaganda at face value
>>38486IM MORE KENTALLY STABLE THAN THE FUCKING TROONS AND MODERATORSWHO JERK OFF AND DEFEND CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
SELF DESCRIBED LIBERTARIAN SOCIALISTS. I WILL SMAKSH PEDOPHILE SKULLS WITH NUNCHAKU
SHOTGUN PEDOPHILE TROONS SKULL TO PIECES
THIS IS MORE SANE THAN DEFENDING CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
I FEAR NO INVESTIGATION AS IVE DONE NOTHING WRONG
THE PEDOPHOLE TROON MODERATORS ON OTHERHAND? YOU? FIX THE CHILD PORN PROBLEM NOWOR I SHUT THIS DOWN
>>38536>>38537>>38538>>38540>>38542Should have been fixed. Please use
>>37383 next time
>>38013 (Me)
>>38014 (Me)
>>38017 (Me)
Banned again for uploading my own soyjak edits (OC) making fun of primitivists / luddites / reactionaries. Mods read your own fucking ordinances and unban me. Ordinance 2 starts with
No non O.C. Wojaks, Pepes, or Groypers. Any Wojaks, pepes, groypers, etc.
which are not /leftypol/ original content are considered spam.
NOT ONLY IS THIS OC, BUT ITS LEFTYPOL ORIGINAL CONTENT.
>>38551 (You)
This post violates Rule 7)
It is simply reactionary. It calls for regressing back (returning), it is against technological progress, it is simply religious conservativism. It has nothing to do with "leftism". So why is it allowed? Why do I receive a ban instead when I post a soyjak OC caricaturizing these luddic shitheads?
https://leftypol.org/siberia/res/600671.htmlWhy is this shit still here and on several boards as well.
>>37573ha
you have to imagine some witticism here
I straight up can't be bothered
Also subject is a fag
I never spammed this place.
Pantheon model is at least amusing. What about Judge Dredd, have we abandoned that?
I'll be back.
>>38565following up on this, constr
ain gets word filtered to constrain (testing). See the post in pic related
>>38622constr
ains / constrains (maybe it's just the plural)
>>>/leftypol/1942906Can you delete these austistic and unfunny oneliners in the /cybernetics/ thread:
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These threads get saved and are supposed to be serious.
>>38997Are you fucking retarded? Read the thread again. The reading comprehension on this site is always astonishing.
It's always nice to log on and instantly get positive feedback on my knowledge that western leftoids are solipsistic pedophiles who fear only the consequences of their actions and death.
Anyways my perennial question for the last remaining leftypol "developer" is the same as always:
Why is it when I keep using the same user agent and smashing the Mullvad app server reset button without even reloading the page, I can evade bans in 3 seconds?
Are you genuinely this bad? How are you supposed to stop me from scraping your website if you can't even figure out how to stop my phone shitposting?
>>39016THAT'S THE THING, THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO WHACK MY MOLE ME FOR YEARS AND THEY STILL CAN'T CODE FOR SHIT
>>39014>After reading this I have determined it is too stupid for me to read.Wow, sucks to be you I guess?
You sound like a mad little kid! Get raped! Your "auto VPN ban" methods are so crude they don't even affect how I do this on my phone absentmindedly. I have other proxy options. All you're going to end up doing is blocking the major providers easy enough to be used by the drugged out losers who come here (like Ausanon). Good luck!
>>39027Okay not to go right back to engaging in good faith (how everyone gets on the mod shitlist in the first place), but do you really all need to spend more time thinking about that? Cheer up, eat a standard multivitamin with iodine for your mood, extra Bs, D, magnesium, and zinc, get potassium in your diet, eat lots of protein and creatine. Good for your brain. Stop consuming preservatives as much as possible.
If you need treats get fat free greek yogurt (it's abt 70% calories from protein), mix in fresh cittus juice and simple syrup/agave or stevia if you're a diabetanon. With the sugar already in the yogurt and lemons little is required. Tastes better than any ice cream on earth and you can freeze it and blend it if you want to go crazy (blending the pulp is so good)
NEVER KILL YOURSELF KEEP PROVIDING ME WITH ENTERTAINMENT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
RAPEANON OUT
Can I get a response to this
>>39027 please or I'm just going to assume there are no objections.
>>39032This is just cruel btw.
>>39027>Hello I would like to ask permission to make a self-harm thread in /siberia/ please.What is a "self-harm thread"? Please elaborate, If you plan to use leftypol as your personal journal to post triggering content, please do not.
>>39106That was me, 99% of the replies are just you spamming the same retarded meme (no offense it's retarded), sorry buddy. I know it's /siberia/ but you gotta have some standards.
>>39107It's not a meme, jenkem is real.
Sewage gas contains methane and carbon dioxide.
Both methane and carbon dioxide are known to be able to alter consciousness in line with reports and commentary from interviewing users.
And I wasn't spamming I reposted content from the now-defunct / postponed /jenk/ board on 420chan.
>>39108>It's not a meme, […]I'm not gonna lie, I didn't realy look at the content of the memes, I'm sure it's true. I look at the IPs and you were the only reply, all I'm saying is you're like that one guy at the party screaming in the corner, I gotta keep it a chill zone.
>And I wasn't [ I reposted content from the now-defunct / postponed /jenk/ board on 420chan.Lol okay, I will make you an offer, I will unlock the board but it will be saged, since nobody replying on it.
Also you know normal drugs are a thing yes? You don't have to be huffing over manholes, you can even
buy them online >>39109>I look at the IPs and you were the only replyAs I wrote, reposting content from the old board since a lot of people have likely never been on it.
>I will unlock the board but it will be saged, since nobody replying on it.There's no point if other users don't engage. They would engage if the thread is active. Nobody would bother with a saged thread except to throw insults here and there before it gets purged.
>Also you know normal drugs are a thing yes? You don't have to be huffing over manholes, you can even buy them onlineI don't know what makes other drugs "normal", but jenkem is easily accessible because everyone can produce it.
>>39111Well honestly reviewing your thread, although you are the only replier, all your content is original (or atleast not a repetitive wojak) so it will stand. My draconian decision to sage your thread has been overturned.
>I don't know what makes other drugs "normal", but jenkem is easily accessible because everyone can produce it.Like there are normal drugs people can buy and become tenfold amounts high then the minimum rush they can get standing on a sewer gate, it's like sniffing glue in primary school.
>>39115Thanks.
>Like there are normal drugs people can buy and become tenfold amounts high then the minimum rush they can get standing on a sewer gate,There are way more potent drugs, yes, jenkem is just the easiest to produce and the hardest to crack down on however.
The example prior with sewage gas only refers to the rudimentary effects from methane and carbon dioxide, not the fermentation process which does not occur normally in modern sewage systems, let alone the buildup of gas which would be way more toxic than a single plastic container could ever produce.
>>39119The /jenk/ board on 420chan has existed for about 12 years, as far as the internet archive can document it, until the site went down.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100426133417/http://boards.420chan.org/jenk/. Numerous people have gone on there to claim that jenkem is a hoax or a placebo effect to the point that mods had to ban them for either blatantly lying to troll or being uninformed.
Jenkem is not the shit, it is the gaseous product of fermented microbial waste. The Taimapedia wiki page linked to the thread has all the info provided.
>>39122The same board caused the "hoax" that it was being widespread and had increased usage in the US. Ever since all the news reports people have been instead mixing up the information to instead claim that jenkem itself is a hoax. Jenkem is not a hoax, the entire hoax was it being widespread in use back in 2009.
So like the Taimapedia page says:
<The effects of jenkem are often disputed by non-believers, some attributing the entire experience to a placebo effect or oxygen deprivation. Such skepticism however can easily be cured by growing some balls and huffing a generous helping of some good ol' home grown butthash. Properly brewed, jenkem can and will get you high.You can ask AI if you want and you will get the same result. The origins of it are well-documented by now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/406067.stm >>39127Ok!
>>39128Sure you can. Just spoiler any graphic content and give a lil' trigger warning.
>>39132It's actually just one dude.
>Their imperialist moffin tacticWut lul?
>>39132learn what imperialism actually means under a marxist context thanks
>>39141>what was once a great site for communist educationlol
>to be a vehicle for reinforcing imperialist propagandalol
>while presenting itself as the one true communismthere is only one communism because communism isnt an ideology>>39132
HI mods, just adding context to this and previous reports:
>>>/leftypol/2043398 (pls don't delete this one, it's a useful example for future reference)
>>>/leftypol/2115277 (fuck em up m8s)I've seen this neo-nazi repeatedly concern trolling in /auspol/, as well as in other threads like the USA general. They make an off-topic faux-innocuous question as an excuse to post literal neo-nazi propaganda. No idea why, we're clearly not its target audience.
If you look at the filename of the vids in the screenshots, you see it's from the account 'auspill', who is the weirdo nazi horsecock grifter in the other pics and who is discussed in this expose` video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eq9Qlr9Q62MYou will also see replies to deleted posts in /auspol/ from the same concern troll when they were saying 'omg u guize how bad is it that the australian neonazis are the most respected in the world wow their propaganda iz actually pretty good' (protip: it's as crappy as Patriot Front's)
example of those replies
>>>/leftypol/2110710Unique IPs: 194