/siberia/ - Off-topic

abusechads stay winning.

i will never receive a shred of affection from a woman simply due to not being abusive enough. it's really fucking unfair.

Been a while since I got my dick sucked, need my dick sucked

>>795363
“Nice guys finish last” as they say.
I used to dismiss that proverb as just some pissy ass sore loser shit but after seeing several acquaintances being put through the ringer, I realise that saying is one of the few platitudes that is true

>>795380
ive been kind of going through it lately and the thought of becoming an abusechad has never seemed more appealing to me. i'm kinda learning that having a conscience or sense of mutual respect is actually a huge weakness in dating. if i just literally walked up to women and was like "hey girl you have nice tits can i get a squeeze?" i'd probably have waaaay more success than i currently do trying to be polite and develop a bond before asking for a date lol. by that point it's almost always too late.

>>795380
i always thought that meant that a kind man will never reach orgasm until he has satisfied his partner fully

i think i'm too white to get yakuza/cartel/gang tattoos but what are some common white guy abusechad tattoos? I know the nautical star is one and also anything involving the joker. prison stuff like teardrops are a bit too gang-adjacent for a non-neo-nazi white guy. do abusechads get girls' names tattooed on them or is that pussy shit?

gonna shave my head and just get a bunch of these shitty tats and hope for the best.

>>795386
We're already on to the new thread, and what I was thinking about posting about the whole "nice guy" thing in the new thread in relation to something we were discussing.
>>795353
>>795326
<“Washed” is what I would’ve called him to my friends if I’d been feeling honest and not just looking to get laid. Not get laid in the way men do, to quickly satisfy a physical urge — Lord knows I didn’t think there was any chance he was exceptional in bed or likely to make me come (besides, even if that were a possibility, I could do that at home in three minutes and experience the same mind-numbing seconds I would with him). What I wanted was his attention: I wanted to feel a man’s desire and to be reminded that I was a sexual being, not just a mother of a toddler. The lame bar would have to do
>She looks down on male sexuality but wants sexual validation from men.
I think from my experience, that's what's it's about. It's not about "uyghing" women, it's about not giving them validation. It's like the old male-oriented expression: "Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free?" In reference to sex. Meaning why would someone go steady with or marry a woman when they withold sex. For women, the validation is the milk, so when you give the validation for free, why would they buy the cow?
But truth be told, these people are just mentally fucked and it's better to not become involved with them IMHO. There are decent women out there even if somewhat hard to find. I can't be bothered to engage in the mind games. Imagine living in a world where you have to perform all the time for your survival, then in your freetime you're still performing just for some crazy person's approval.

>>795387
That’s what it should mean. Unfortunately, as another anon said in another thread, life exists to spite us.

>>795386
Not exactly true. Being a vulgar rapey asshole male only works for good looking witty built guys. If you’re plain in your looks, wit, abilities, and aura, you’re just gonna get FAFO’ed.

>>795390
Shapeshift into a yaoi character. Getting all that lumpen aesthetic shit rarely looks good outside of movies and music videos

>>795391
>But truth be told, these people are just mentally fucked and it's better to not become involved with them IMHO. There are decent women out there even if somewhat hard to find. I can't be bothered to engage in the mind games. Imagine living in a world where you have to perform all the time for your survival, then in your freetime you're still performing just for some crazy person's approval.

This. At the end of the day, homo sapien is just another species of animal

>>795392
>Getting all that lumpen aesthetic shit rarely looks good outside of movies and music videos
ive never seen a guy that looks like that who didn't have like 5 baby mamas. you're misinformed.

>>795386
>>795390
This is the same shit we condemn right wingers for contemplating
Whether we want to admit it or not, Leftypol shares more with the alt right than with progressives

>>795394
Maybe because those baby mommas are ghetto bitches?
Not all females that are scored are hotties

>>795386
>i'm kinda learning that having a conscience or sense of mutual respect is actually a huge weakness in dating.

Male innocence/benevolence is mocked by feminists and machismo alike

>>795391
>But truth be told, these people are just mentally fucked and it's better to not become involved with them IMHO.
I find it impossible to believe this considering how much a person's sexual success defines their value in the modern age. Dating garbage is still better than being alone honestly.

>There are decent women out there even if somewhat hard to find.
Nah I tried for years there aren't any.

>I can't be bothered to engage in the mind games. Imagine living in a world where you have to perform all the time for your survival, then in your freetime you're still performing just for some crazy person's approval.
that's only if you take it seriously and don't just accept them as a fundamentally broken person that is only good for sex and having fun.

>>795395
>This is the same shit we condemn right wingers for contemplating
right-wingers and left-wingers also agree that the sky is blue. should we reject that fact too?
women aren't really shy about their shallowness. go to the other thread or just read that anon's quoted post if you want a perfect example of what american women think about the opposite sex. they fucking hate us lol.

look man, I spent my teens and 20's thinking you can just be sincere and honest with women and they'll see the good in you and love you. I was the "nice guy" for basically my entire adult life. all it gets me is being the guy they traumadump to when the abusechad rapes them only to go back to the abusechad. but this is akin to a fairy tale. it's equivalent to thinking you can be successful in life just working hard and giving a firm handshake. both right wingers and left wingers agree that the system is broken, both economically and sexually. right-wingers just have different ideas on the "solution"(mass genocide and sexual slavery) while left-wingers believe in "redistribution of wealth" and "economic justice" but still haven't come up with a solution for the sex crisis because "redistribution of sex" and "sexual justice" scares the womenfolk.

so for me as a lonely 30-something white leftist incel loser that can't lean on my ideological allies but also doesn't want to be a nazi, the only option is to just lean into the status quo and become an abusechad that women lust after. "being yourself" and expecting the world to reward you can only let you cope for so long. eventually you have to give up to the peer pressure and just accept that women like those guys more than you and you have to learn from them.

>>795402
>right-wingers and left-wingers also agree that the sky is blue. should we reject that fact too?

The sky isn’t actually blue. It merely diffuses blue light more when the sun is higher in the sky. When the sun is at low angles, more red light is scattered.

Also the sky is filled with infrared, long-wave ultraviolet, microwaves, and radio waves but our human eyes cannot visually detect that

>>795402
>women aren't really shy about their shallowness. go to the other thread or just read that anon's quoted post if you want a perfect example of what american women think about the opposite sex. they fucking hate us lol.

They don’t hate men. They don’t really respect or appreciate men or each other.

>look man, I spent my teens and 20's thinking you can just be sincere and honest with women and they'll see the good in you and love you. I was the "nice guy" for basically my entire adult life. all it gets me is being the guy they traumadump to when the abusechad rapes them only to go back to the abusechad. but this is akin to a fairy tale. it's equivalent to thinking you can be successful in life just working hard and giving a firm handshake.

That’s because you coddled them and never gave them accountability. Not your fault, it’s just how men are willfully retarded with prime age women

>both right wingers and left wingers agree that the system is broken, both economically and sexually. right-wingers just have different ideas on the "solution"(mass genocide and sexual slavery) while left-wingers believe in "redistribution of wealth" and "economic justice" but still haven't come up with a solution for the sex crisis because "redistribution of sex" and "sexual justice" scares the womenfolk.

Sexual redistribution is objectification tbh. If we have to resort to such a system, it’s just gonna result in a lot more inequality. It’s like teachers forcing students to split into teams. The losers will just be left standing with no partner.

>so for me as a lonely 30-something white leftist incel loser that can't lean on my ideological allies but also doesn't want to be a nazi, the only option is to just lean into the status quo and become an abusechad that women lust after. "being yourself" and expecting the world to reward you can only let you cope for so long. eventually you have to give up to the peer pressure and just accept that women like those guys more than you and you have to learn from them.

You can simply choose not to play. Why do you obsess yourself with things that don’t work out for you? And being an abuse chad rarely works out. A lot of those women that end up with abuse chads aren’t all naive impressionable maidens. Some are amoral semi-opportunists.

>>795402
>I find it impossible to believe this considering how much a person's sexual success defines their value in the modern age. Dating garbage is still better than being alone honestly

Only the most delusional people believe this. Not even teens fall for this.
Sexual success is defined by personal prospects.

Do you have any hobbies, any good looks, or lots of money or own any property? If not, then shut up and get good

Man I was about to respond to the post, and then a number of other posts suddenly appeared. Seems like the topics we are talking about in a general sense: Being attractive to women, not getting-cancelled after having sex with women, not having sex with women through verifiable records and being publicly denounced for that. And much more. It's a crazy world out here.

>>795411
>>795391
>>795391
>>795326
I mean shit, you could think you're having your dream come true, you scored a date with a famous Hollywood actress, then you wake up to find an article about how you're "washed" in your local magazine.

>I knew he was new to New York when he picked the bar. It was on a street that had felt cool and exciting to me in 2014, when I’d first moved to the city, and probably was, before the Australian café that does matcha art opened around the corner and women who could afford a uniform of Miu Miu bags and Alo sets moved into the fire-escape apartments. My date was older than me, and though I’d seen him on Instagram, he was more like a walking, talking Myspace page: bright hoodies, obnoxious gold jewelry, with a preference for passé hipster bars like the one he’d chosen.

>“Washed” is what I would’ve called him to my friends if I’d been feeling honest and not just looking to get laid. Not get laid in the way men do, to quickly satisfy a physical urge — Lord knows I didn’t think there was any chance he was exceptional in bed or likely to make me come (besides, even if that were a possibility, I could do that at home in three minutes and experience the same mind-numbing seconds I would with him). What I wanted was his attention: I wanted to feel a man’s desire and to be reminded that I was a sexual being, not just a mother of a toddler. The lame bar would have to do.

>>795408
>You can simply choose not to play.
I wish I could properly express to you how insane it is to tell someone to just accept spending their entire life without a shred of human affection, but I think you already know and don't actually believe this statement.

>>795408
>Sexual redistribution is objectification tbh. If we have to resort to such a system, it’s just gonna result in a lot more inequality. It’s like teachers forcing students to split into teams. The losers will just be left standing with no partner.
at this point assigning people a partner using nothing but a random lottery with the sole purpose of maintaining the birthrate at replacement levels would be better than the current system. dating is fucked.

>>795411
>getting-cancelled
imagine being so online that you hyphenate this. Sounds like you need to be "getting-outside"!!!!!!!

>>795402
>doesn't want to be a nazi
"I'm forced to be a reactionary, its not my fault!" yellow bellied soy coward ✅

>>795414
There’s something called platonic affection. But besides that, why do you have no empathy for lonely grannies who would like some affection?

>>795415
>at this point assigning people a partner using nothing but a random lottery with the sole purpose of maintaining the birthrate at replacement levels would be better than the current system. dating is fucked

Such a great idea! No way in the world that this won’t be abused and turned into some puppy mill effect.
To even entertain such an idea as good is to admit that you’re fascist-adjacent.

>>795423
>There’s something called platonic affection. But besides that, why do you have no empathy for lonely grannies who would like some affection?
do you really think a granny is the "looksmatch" of an average 30 year old man? or are you just trying to frame it as an own of some sort?

>To even entertain such an idea as good is to admit that you’re fascist-adjacent.
you don't think the current dating system is already social fascist?

>>795427
>you don't think the current dating system is already social fascist?

If your definition of fascism is “not getting the coolest toys for my birthday” then you’re no different from the alt right chuds. I cannot and will not ever take you seriously.
“Fascism” has become an indignatory slur to cope with FOMO

>do you really think a granny is the "looksmatch" of an average 30 year old man? or are you just trying to frame it as an own of some sort?

No. I am saying that you’re too busy shitting up the place with your own romantic woes while ignoring older women who suffer from loneliness.
And I said that there’s such thing called platonic affection.
Romance isn’t the only form of human connection, neither is it the foundation

>>795427
>you don't think the current dating system is already social fascist?

Pornographic fetishes are already being regulated because of neopuritanism. That’s more fascist than “TFW no gf”

>>795423
I do have a lot of empathy for grannies, so I visited mine regularly. That's why I know that their situation is nothing like what incels are going through. What you say is a diversion deployed dishonestly to achieve your rhetorical goal of getting people to shut up about a problem they're having.
I disagree with their "analysis" of the world but the fact is, they are people who have a problem and who decide to do something about it and that warrants far more respect than choosing to shut up and take it like a little bitch. Older people sure don't shut up about their problems either if you actually talk to them. "The left" might as well be a fed operation with how they leave such an important and growing group entirely to fascist freaks.

>>795431
>neopuritanism
hello where are the proofs? where does this "neopuritanism" exist other than your delusional imagination?
<inb4 you start arguing against the age of consent and claim it's proof that you're being oppressed

>>795438
There is no actual solution to the incel problem, that's the actual thing, the left abandon them because they have nothing to offer them, and fascists just lie to them.
Their problems come from systemic desocialisation, even in the event of a cultural revolution that would reverse that trend, the ones already pavlov'd into being asocial would still be completely fucked, and the problem would just disappear within one generation following their inevitable death, not because they can be rehabilitated.

>>795402
TRVTHNVKE
Become an abusechad king!
Being nice never gets anyone anywhere.
Ignore all the whining in this thread from the feminist morons. No one who is married will ever tell you that they obtained their wife by being nice to her.

>>795446
Well I got married and I almost always was nice to my wife. But maybe incels are right it was detrimental, happily I'm smart and beautiful so it could make up for being nice.

>>795446
moids will say shit like this and wonder why women don't want to fuck them

>>795447
>almost always
Those words are doing a lot of heavy lifting but really you're just lying to yourself because you have no pressure to find a wife anymore and you want to farm feminist good boy points by talking like this on an internet forum instead.
>>795448
Unfortunately women love to fuck serial killers, prisoners, the bourgeoisie, other lumpenproles, and all other manner of criminals and abusers and you claiming otherwise doesn't make any of that less true.

>>795449
You sure sound like a piece of shit, by your theory you must be some kind of womanizer with a huge number of meaningful romantic and sexual relationships

>>795451
> meaningful romantic and sexual relationships
i wouldn't even say womanizers have those, atleast not until they actually settle down

as for sounding like a piece of shit, ask yourself; would you really want some guy who acts like a golden retreiver all the time or a black cat all the time? do you really want to be with a yes man?

>>795445
That couldn't be further from the truth. Many incels are just teenagers who grow up, get perfectly good facial features, get a nice girl and then say that it was just a phase they grew out of.
Your idea also perfectly applies to all sexual and even ethnic minorities. Many people, some of them in the American government, say that the woke mind virus unfortunately got all those poor kids and women so they'd just have to discard them and start from scratch. By contrast, communists were always huge fans of reeducation even for bourgeoisie.

>>795457
this but in reverse

>>795414
Sex and romantic love arent the only sort of human affection, the situation with those things in our modern order is Fucked, better get those social needs elsewhere, friends and community, and when those needs are met you might be collected enough to find romantic love if youre lucky. trying to start with romantic love seems like a silly plan to me.

>>795379
>>795402
>lean into the status quo and become an abusechad
Rail hookers

>>795427
>do you really think a granny is the "looksmatch" of an average 30 year old man? or are you just trying to frame it as an own of some sort?
giving a shit about the concept of a """lookkksmatch""" is playing into the fucked dating world.

>>795446
i have no interest in a wife i have to abuse to keep in line or one that would take abuse for that matter, i have respect for myself and will find a woman i can respect or die without a partner, which is fine as long as my social needs are met by great friends and casual sex.

>>795457
She also has to stay small past 30 and past two kids. She won't.

I hate women

Women are at the finish line and go to the winner. They do not care if you arrive on a supersonic jet in a foot race and murdered all the competitors. They'll just be more aroused.

>>795444
Lots of spaces where furry, loli, and CNC are someone’s subject to raids by neopuritans.
Lots of activitist groups wanting to pathologize young people for having non vanilla fetishes that don’t conform to societal expectations

>>795463
>That couldn't be further from the truth. Many incels are just teenagers who grow up, get perfectly good facial features, get a nice girl and then say that it was just a phase they grew out of

This is such a delusional patronizing cope. There’s a lot more incels that are past pubertal age than you think. “Incel” isn’t another teen fad. It’s more a post pubescent fade. Most incels I talk to are way past high school.
You’d be hard pressed to find any incels that are teens
Plus, the amount of prime age people in relationships has declined drastically since the 2000s. Millennials were already having a quarter of their patronage being perpetually single and virginal in their prime. Zoomers have half.

By Gen Alpha or Beta, it may be that less than half of prime age adults will secure sex and romance.


>>795438
True. Older people, especially male elders, can be terribly solipsistic. A lot of complaints from older people is more whining about not being able to do youthful things anymore.
They often downplay and dismiss young peoples woes.

>>795448
It’s wrong to say but unfortunately there’s a lot of women that do gravitate to assholes.

>>795468
This. But anons here don’t wanna listen.

>>795446
Being an abuse chad works if you’re good looking and witty
Also most chads aren abusive nor do they need to be. Only loser sheeple like yourself like to think women like being abused as cope with not getting enough female attention

>>795413
This is why I advocate for sex dolls. Anons here would rather have their integrity damaged by spiteful femcels

>>795468
I'm 100% sure you don't have any friends or you're like 19 years old at most if you think friendships are a solution to male loneliness.

Try being a 30 year old incel. All my friends from college got married and don't even log into discord anymore let alone want to hang out irl. Romantic love is cucking me out of even male friendship. You guys are fucking dishonest assholes that refuse to even acknowledge there's a problem while people are struggling.