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>>794927The older I get the more I wish I were asexual. The weird little voice in your head telling you to act cool around women would be so much more tolerable if I could turn it off.
>>794931Two of these are mine. Although one was taken a bit out of context. Yes I feel a bit perturbed by my parents decision to procreate but it wasn't too bad but it would've been better not to exist. I don't particularly like being alive but I guess it could be worse. Although I will say if I had been successful in the realm of sex and romance I would've helped produce a few children. Kind of hypocritical but it is what is.
>>794978Highly agree
People like to say “life is beautiful/awesome/amazing”
I think it’s eh.
It is what it is.
I’m frankly tired of people profunditizing the mundane
>>794964Thank fuck I understood my role when I was six/seven
I'm beginning to think that capitalist society only caters to cishet moids so they can take all the foids and breed with them.
Also, how long have you never been touched by a woman? In fact, I never did. Turns out foids only want to fuck libs and rightists.
>>795004sex money ego drugs food sleep
>>795002If this was true, then why are most men struggling to pin down a woman? It's easier for cishet males to get a cishomo male than a woman
>>795007men tend to be physically stronger than women so I would think it'd be easier on average to pin them down
>>795008In theory. And that's not what I meant.
I'm talking bout this lesbian anon who thinks capitalism is catering towards cishet males for proliferation of women
>>794931>i just want to be rich and creampie the same girl everynight to climax forever.Bro that's mine 😭
It's true though I'm tired of all the nice guy, performative guy, incel guy, red flag guy, the TikTok narrative , the male gaze or "manosphere -coded" supposed secret in everword i say as if to say "you just want to have sex with a woman and get sexual gratification"
Yeah? Big shocker. Like this is a brilliant discovery, like no one wants a partner or think sex's nice.
Or tell you shit like you must actually want young girls like all moids do or you won't settle for "insert unattractive trait on a girl here".. literally want to be with one gal that actually loves you back but that's "hopelessly romantic male" now.
>>794927>don't fall in love with the hookersis like saying
>don't feed the ducksyou just know someone, some dickhead, is out there right now as we speak feeding the goddamn ducks his dick yogurt. it's just human nature.
>>795017the government doesn't want you to know this, but the hookers at the park are free you can take them home
>>795012Cishet male sexuality is no longer tolerated. This is the age where you can free yourself from meatspace hebegynophilia
These feminists nowadays want men to be their sycophants in every which way.
And what’s fucked up is that women complain about chivalry is dead despite men still holding doors open for them and handling heavy duty physical tasks for them.
All because acts of chivalry aren’t as graceful and cool as in the movies
>>795113>attractiveStandards too high
>>795133you know one could just say "its a prefrence" like most of those who say tall or six figures or have a contradictory list this pic when you tell them standarts too high, but that's boring and i just did it
my personal favorite wierd ideal has to be "speaks 3 languages" as if it makes you cultures, that's like the average balkan/mena person, three languages.
>>795113nobody wants to serve your lazy fat retarded ass, so what makes you not worth cheating on?
>>795149>not having a free maidwhy even patriarchy?
>>795140what's wrong with working out on the bike at the gym wtf?
>>795147>>795140both lists are right except running and biking is good for you
>>795150Remember to lie about your height and say that you're 6'1 or 6'2 so that becomes her new height standard and even if the date doesn't work out she'll spiral into cat lady status because no one else will ever be able to be as tall as you.
>>795154mfw my prolefriend tells me that back in high-school their fascist manlet ex-friend told two girls he was 6'1, while standing next to my 6'1 friend who then says 'bro you cant be 6 1 im 6 1'.
mffw fascoid proceeds to insist they're 6'1 and friend is lying
>>795137Women always love to critics male flaws and nuances but God forbid men do the same to women
>>795140A lot of these red flags aren’t even harmful. They’re just nuances
Idk if they’re joking or not but knowing these women nowadays I wouldn’t be surprised if they’re serious
More reason for cishet males to just remain platonic with women
>>795140This seems like a college girls list. This one
>>795137 is probably post college.
>>795188>dietary restriction le red flagyes,it probably means you're gonna try to impose it on her
>tennisthat's because tennis clubs in schools are were you slut it up
>lie about the height correct,being manipulative is a red flag
>celebrate winningshe say against girls specifically,that's just her doing in-group virtue signalling
rest is completely random
>>795188>>795205Just be attractive and\or have resources. That's what's most important anyways.
>>795205>she say against girls specifically,that's just her doing in-group virtue signallingrest is completely random
Women love to accuse men of trying to subvert them whenever it comes to sports or employment prospects yet they love to talk shot about men being inefficient compared to female intuition
>>795205>yes,it probably means you're gonna try to impose it on herWomen do dietary restrictions all the time and even impose it on their fellow females
>correct,being manipulative is a red flagWomen lie about their age and body count and other things all the time. Yet when they’re found out, they demand sympathy
>that's because tennis clubs in schools are were you slut it upThat’s ballsports in general, particularly gridiron football, basketball, and baseball
>>795140Lists like these make me worried about them becoming mothers, particularly single moms.
And if they have sons.
A lot of parenting articles nowadays seem to be written by hysterical white liberal women who don’t know how to handle nuances of others
>>795208>ballsports in generalit's because the tennis club is mixed gender specifically
Also if I agree with her on something,I obviously don't think it's ok if a woman does it
>>795210Tbh I think ballsports as an organized recreational outlet should be subject to mandatory psych evaluation
I really believe team sports are overpromoted as youth recreation and everyone knows how ballsports culture brings out the worst ego problems in people
Look at professional sports. Players get more relevance from what they do off the field than what they do on field.
Especially if it’s rivalries with fellow teammates
And the bullying and hazing that goes on and the pressure to do steroids
People wanna ban social media for kids to protect their well being but overlook ballsports.
It’s one thing if you’re playing with your friends for fun but as a professional hobby?
>>795188ok andrew lmao, try getting normal male underwear
>I knew he was new to New York when he picked the bar. It was on a street that had felt cool and exciting to me in 2014, when I’d first moved to the city, and probably was, before the Australian café that does matcha art opened around the corner and women who could afford a uniform of Miu Miu bags and Alo sets moved into the fire-escape apartments. My date was older than me, and though I’d seen him on Instagram, he was more like a walking, talking Myspace page: bright hoodies, obnoxious gold jewelry, with a preference for passé hipster bars like the one he’d chosen.
>“Washed” is what I would’ve called him to my friends if I’d been feeling honest and not just looking to get laid. Not get laid in the way men do, to quickly satisfy a physical urge — Lord knows I didn’t think there was any chance he was exceptional in bed or likely to make me come (besides, even if that were a possibility, I could do that at home in three minutes and experience the same mind-numbing seconds I would with him). What I wanted was his attention: I wanted to feel a man’s desire and to be reminded that I was a sexual being, not just a mother of a toddler. The lame bar would have to do.
>I’d given birth two years earlier, a few months shy of my 30th birthday. “Pushing will be easy,” the nurse told me after I’d arrived at the hospital, nearly shitting myself on the linoleum floor, repeating “Oh fuck, oh fuck,” sounding like I was having the best orgasm of my life instead of experiencing the most agonizing pain I’d ever known. I was seven centimeters dilated, which impressed the staff. “For someone like you, you’ll be done in 30 minutes.” Instead, I pushed for four hours, ripping the muscle between my ass and my vagina in the process.
>My OB/GYN, in an effort to loosen me, had used her fingers to repeatedly spread my vagina, scratching both me and my son’s delicate, nearly translucent scalp. At home after being discharged from the hospital, I would find tiny scabs on the top of his head that matched the ones between my legs.
>It was a violent transition into a new reality of screaming baby on my aching tit and ring on my swollen finger. And then, in a time period that felt both instant and excruciatingly slow, my marriage collapsed. Six months after my son was born, my husband and I stopped having sex. Less than a year later, we separated.
>I hated the condescending way people looked at me in the wake of my breakup. Their furrowed brows, the pity in their faces as they delivered an “I’m so sorry, Emily.” I couldn’t stand my pathetic reflection in their eyes. They saw me as someone who was unwanted, who had been left. A reject with the burden of a needy, hungry, two-foot-tall sidekick.
>Even as a kid, I reasoned that of all the things I could grow up to be, it was crucial to avoid becoming a single mom. The term itself could be lodged as an insult. Having a child with the wrong man was the fastest way to ruin your life as a woman — it meant having no freedom, no choices, no emergency exit. All baggage and no security.
>But as I approached the relic of a bar, tucked away in the basement of a building, half expecting to have to perform some gimmick in order to enter, exhausted from endless hours of solo parenting — If I have to pick up a pay phone next to the door and say a password in 2023 — I did what I’d become remarkably good at in the wake of my separation. I tucked away the part of myself that could not bear the reality of what I’d become, the very thing I’d always known to fear: a single mother.
>>795326Why did you post this? I mean you glow bastards usually spam ragebaits, this one though.
>>795337I found it to be an informative and interesting read and I liked the cover art. Here's the full article:
https://www.thecut.com/article/emily-ratajkowski-sex-single-mom-essay.html >>795326>“Washed” is what I would’ve called him to my friends if I’d been feeling honest and not just looking to get laid. Not get laid in the way men do, to quickly satisfy a physical urge — Lord knows I didn’t think there was any chance he was exceptional in bed or likely to make me come (besides, even if that were a possibility, I could do that at home in three minutes and experience the same mind-numbing seconds I would with him). What I wanted was his attention: I wanted to feel a man’s desire and to be reminded that I was a sexual being, not just a mother of a toddler. The lame bar would have to doShe looks down on male suitors but then says shit like this:
>I hated the condescending way people looked at me in the wake of my breakup. Their furrowed brows, the pity in their faces as they delivered an “I’m so sorry, Emily.” I couldn’t stand my pathetic reflection in their eyes. They saw me as someone who was unwanted, who had been left. A reject with the burden of a needy, hungry, two-foot-tall sidekick. >>795340From now on, do not post these kind of articles on here. I go to great lengths to avoid these kind of stories. It’s just mainly female indignation looking to blame men for female failures not unlike their male counterparts
>>795326>“Washed” is what I would’ve called him to my friends if I’d been feeling honest and not just looking to get laid. Not get laid in the way men do, to quickly satisfy a physical urge — Lord knows I didn’t think there was any chance he was exceptional in bed or likely to make me come (besides, even if that were a possibility, I could do that at home in three minutes and experience the same mind-numbing seconds I would with him). What I wanted was his attention: I wanted to feel a man’s desire and to be reminded that I was a sexual being, not just a mother of a toddler. The lame bar would have to do.She looks down on male sexuality but wants sexual validation from men.
Why do these women behave like this?
They look down on men, thinking men as inefficient women but still want their approval
>>795187Irony is, they’re both probably post-college.
>>795113That picture is the closest you’ll get to the ideal wife
>>795356New York is just a typical radlib journalist mouthpiece.
Regardless, idk why it’s acceptable for women to sociosexually condescend men like this.
It’s not that new anyway.
Sex And The City was like this.
Also, the male counterpart of that which is culturally acceptable is in hip-hop and punk.
The Bull clocks in at 285lbs.
>>795357Basically, Western media is now trying to turn men and women against eachother just for the media moguls to puppeteer them easier. The fragmentation of the proletariat prevents class unity and the eventual overthrow of the capitalist system.
>>795374People were always pitted against each other.
And in fact, I think blaming the media is just an excuse at this point.
Not to say media isn’t contributing to the problem but I don’t think the media would be able to have such a stronghold if the mess wasn’t pre existing
The truth is, the proletariat are no less toxic and depraved than the bourgeois they complain about.
The Bull has inseminated my beautiful trans wife once again.
>>795496Men want the same thing to happen to them
>>795589Men are like this as well
>>795591Guys only want one thing and it's disgusting.
>>795597I do look like that when I'm getting my bussy wrecked.
>>795329He'll probably end up posting here, or somewhere like it.
>>795639if she wouldn't do that stuff with you she doesn't love you. it's not something you cope with. it's like coping with your partner telling you they cheat on you. be kind to yourself and dump her.
>>795639I'm a virgin and most likely to remain one for years to come, but please don't ever put so much into another person that it would seriously eat at you inside or make you consider suicide. Just drop her if it's that serious.
>>795639Romantic love is more selfish than lust.
This hurt you carry will affect your ability to appreciate any virginal woman who comes your way offering her heart and pussy.
>>795639You deserve better.
>>795640She does now, but back then she told me head was a "boyfriend privilege" while blowing some other guy on a trip with him.
>>795645I'm not some chud looking for a virgin tradwife, I just want someone I enjoy the company of to prioritize me.
>>795650What if some granny offers her whole heart to you for companionship?
Would you accept?
>>795653Some granny fanny? Hhmmm…
>>795650>She does now, but back then she told me head was a "boyfriend privilege" while blowing some other guy on a trip with him.That's fucking hot. Did you ever make out with her after she blew him?
>>795671
I will not "settle" for you foids
Your hymen is torn. You have no sense of feminine fashion. You speak without permission. You have no female skills or feminine traits. You don't wear stripped pantsu. You're old and you're ugly as fug.
You will not be getting plapped by me. You will not sniff my man musk. You will not be embraced in my strong arms and chest, you will not be provided for, you will not wear my sweater and be wrapped up in my warm male aura, you will not taste my baby batter, you will not cook me dinner, you will not fold my laundry, you will feel my bigger hands choke you out, you will not kneel and welcome me home, you will not call me "sir". You will own 12 cats and be alone.
>>795673It's simply a rarity to find a woman that goes more than a few months (or weeks desu) without being involved with someone. Just single and not trying to mingle/put herself out there? Nah.
And women don't have to be constantly horny when every guy already is. She just has to exist somewhere in the world and they just have to give her a good enough offer so that she says yes (with or without the expectation of something more).
There doesn't need to be any advanced psychology at play or any complicated external factors. It's pretty much like saying "People who get invited to more parties attend more parties than people who get invited less."
If I get invited to 2-3 parties a year, and I enthusiastically say "yes" every time. I'm still going to attend significantly less parties than the girl who gets invited out every single Fri/Sat but rarely goes or often flakes out because she hates people/parties.
>>795673“Men lie, women lie, numbers don’t lie”
>>795653No, old bitch if you were 60 years younger you would ignore me like the rest
>>795733Ok, so what's your problem?
And how do you know that the granny was a stuck up thot in her prime?
is the granny guy just another troll like the cuck guy?
i cant believe i replied seriously to him i feel so dumb.
>>795762It's only trollish if you don't consider how older women are sexually/romantically neglected like how younger men are.
imagine spendinf your entire day seethinf on the internet. this uygha needs a job
>>795771You referring to Glownonymous threads today?
>>795780> life just isn't worth living without a partner.That's actually what the study is about. They said that partnerships are over. The only way to fix society is for all women to become single moms. They also say that they're creating the technology to grow babies in artificial wombs for single dads.
>he cross-national correlation between gender equality and lower fertility is exceptionally strong (r ≈ 0.81). After the 1960s, a unique mating regime spread across parts of the world—with female emancipation, individual mate choice, and effective birth control—followed by a continuing rise in singlehood and declining fertility. Almost all women still want to reproduce, but many struggle to find a good-enough partner. This article argues from an evolutionary perspective that many men’s utility to “free women” has been so diminished that solving the fertility crisis by increasing pair-bonding rates seems unfeasible. A viable means for aiding the survival of low-fertility nations could be to provide women with the economic and social resources necessary for them to conclude that having children alone makes for a better life than remaining childless. Such policies would likely exacerbate male marginalization, but new technologies are on the horizon that could offer men reproductive equality.Can't believe we're literally alive in time to see the family abolished. Engels would be so proud.
>>795786i think i would sooner side with the rightoid handmaid tale sexual slavery fantasy than whatever this shit is. maybe the nazis are right and emancipating women was a mistake. but the soviet union didn't have this problem and they gave women more rights than the west. so what's the real reason women in the west are such sexual fascists?
>>795788natalism is good actually
the continuation of humanity should be celebrated actually
families are a force of social good actually
children from two parent households have significantly better life prospects and mental health than children from single parent homes even when accounting for income levels and race
encouraging people to abandon their social and romantic wellbeing in favor of dating a chatbot is actually antithetical to socialism which is an ideology based on community and humanism.
engels was a homosexual cuck that probably just hated the concept of women as mothers because he wished he could get pregnant too.
i hate how leftists seemingly set themselves up for being genocided for no other reason than wanting to be edgelords. if men can't find a partner they aren't gonna just take it lying down and give up. they're going to take the "no pussy no work" approach and become lumpens to spite society. if that doesn't work they'll get even more extreme to have their material needs met. telling them to accept anything less than their material needs will just get you killed.
>>795792This is borderline fascist.
Natalism is overpromoted as the only proper societal way.
Also, there’s more animosity towards young men having sex and romance rather then the male sex in general
>>795792> engels was a homosexual cuck that probably just hated the concept of women as mothers because he wished he could get pregnant too.
>i hate how leftists seemingly set themselves up for being genocided for no other reason than wanting to be edgelords.Can you provide evidence for these claims or is it just indignatory hyperbole?
>>795796Engels was actually the problematic male-feminist archetype like Hasan. Pays lip service to worshipping women and empowering them or something but loves fucking hookers.
>>795795at some point socialists have to stop fighting against biology because it's a losing battle. you will never defeat the human need for companionship. you will just sound like an autistic retard demanding people stop wanting to start families and fall in love. it's about as insane as right-wing race theory in its pseudoscientific basis.
mark my words if socialists don't have a solution for male loneliness socialism will never ever succeed. the USSR figured this out and promoted the family as a core part of their ideology. the CCP figured this out, albeit they're struggling with enforcement and China is still highly sexually fascist.
you morons are still stuck on "women NEED to be able to use sex as a means of social mobility" while society continues to decline and men continue to feel isolated and disenfranchised and capitalism continues to enslave people while American socialists cheer the return of the 12 hour work day because people won't have time to start families. it's just fucking insane lol. you will 100% lose if you cannot acknowledge and address the material needs of your primary demographic, whom are almost the exclusive victims of sexual fascism as women gravitate to wealth and status and "good genetics". it's a massive strategic blunder to abandon working class men like this.
>>795797In theory that would be possible but in actuality humans will still be needed to maintain machines unless said machines gain sentience. But even if such a thing lead was entirely possible, what’s so bad about that? If I recall, Homo sapiens replaced previous hominid primates
>>795799Care to explain how this is a bad thing?
>>795799the way engels and marx treated their wives makes me think their disdain for the family was moreso just projecting their own misogyny onto the entire human race to absolve themselves of guilt. it's not normal to cheat on your wife. it's not normal to auction off your wife's belongings without her knowledge so you can fuck hookers. it's not normal to treat your wife as a maid and never engage in housework. I imagine his wife probably got sick of Engels blaming the family and calling it "social oppression" like a petulant child every time she asked him to watch the kids while she did everything around the house.
>>795801>In theory that would be possible but in actuality humans will still be needed to maintain machines unless said machines gain sentience. But even if such a thing lead was entirely possible, what’s so bad about that? If I recall, Homo sapiens replaced previous hominid primatesif the end goal of socialism is human extinction then how are we any different from the nazis? what's the point of increasing social equality or fighting for labor rights if the goal is to die anyway?
again this is just a losing position. if the socialist position is "everyone should die" and the nazi position is "only some should die" then you're basically just doing propaganda for the nazis. everyone will flock to the group that gives them a higher chance of survival.
socialists in the west need to stop being edgelords obsessed with having the most extreme position and just respond to people's needs. goddamn man.
>>795800>while American socialists cheer the return of the 12 hour work day because people won't have time to start families. it's just fucking insane lolExplain where this is happening
Western socialists want to promote more compulsory education for students. They want to reduce labor all together, even condemning trades
>it's just fucking insane lol. you will 100% lose if you cannot acknowledge and address the material needs of your primary demographic, whom are almost the exclusive victims of sexual fascism as women gravitate to wealth and status and "good genetics". it's a massive strategic blunder to abandon working class men like this.Men do this too. A lot of men reject women for being “fat” or “ugly” or “blemished”
Men also are money grabbers as well but it’s not encouraged as for women.
>mark my words if socialists don't have a solution for male loneliness socialism will never ever succeed. the USSR figured this out and promoted the family as a core part of their ideology. the CCP figured this out, albeit they're struggling with enforcement and China is still highly sexually fascistA lot of those natalist programs were also highly eugenicist.
>at some point socialists have to stop fighting against biology because it's a losing battle. you will never defeat the human need for companionship. you will just sound like an autistic retard demanding people stop wanting to start families and fall in love. it's about as insane as right-wing race theory in its pseudoscientific basisYou’re focusing too much on sex and romance as the only type of human companionship. If anything you sound like a petulant entitled bitter loser who wants society to bend over backwards for them.
>>795802Marx and Engels were outliers in their type of misogyny
Most of those people you described are usually the pro-natalist pro-family types.
Are you from Leftychan by any chance?
Because Leftychan patrons talk like this.
>>795803If you study history and biology you would know that all good things come to an end. The more you try to fight it the worse things get.
There’s been hundreds of other species of animals that went extinct and they weren’t dumb or degenerate. It’s just how nature works.
Also, right now, the human population is eight billion. Your cause for alarm is unfounded.
Idk what’s up with your types lately acting like everything is eugenics just because you cannot get laid easily like how pop culture made you believe it should be
>>795804>Men do this too. A lot of men reject women for being “fat” or “ugly” or “blemished” this is a huge "le both sides" nothingburger. if i asked you for an example of men doing this 9 times out of 10 you'll just be pointing to chad being selective of who he plaps next. the last 1 out of 10 will be some deranged nazi incel that just hates non-white women. the men getting scraps are not the men rejecting women for minor blemishes.
>A lot of those natalist programs were also highly eugenicist.aborting babies with severe medical conditions that would lead to bad life outcomes and be an economic drain is not the same kind of "eugenicist" as you are implying. china still does it to this day and the people consider it a good thing.
>You’re focusing too much on sex and romance as the only type of human companionship. If anything you sound like a petulant entitled bitter loser who wants society to bend over backwards for them.I already brought this up in the previous thread but friendship and romance go hand in hand. You cannot have lifelong friendships with your own sex because they will inevitably get married and abandon you. You cannot spend your entire life with your mom as your only friend. You cannot just live your life deprived of the human need for companionship unless there is something severely wrong with your brain. This is not normal behavior. Humans have an innate desire for companionship. Telling someone to just "get over it" is exactly what the Catholic Church does to homosexuals with their "being gay is not a sin but acting on it is" bullshit. You want people to just accept lifelong celibacy? Fuck you, you will die when the working class revolts against sexual oppression.
>Marx and Engels were outliers in their type of misogyny >Most of those people you described are usually the pro-natalist pro-family types.I'm aware that Marx/Engels were a product of their time but that's also why I don't consider their opinions on the Family as a concept to be particularly useful. Their idea of Family was based on women being slaves to their husbands, and they lived their lives under that standard and treated their wives like slaves. This is very outdated and not something we should care about when discussing the "family" as a social concept. Natalism is good, family is good. Treating your wife with mutual respect is good.
>Are you from Leftychan by any chance?No, I came to Leftypol 2 years ago when browsing the hidden wiki for political imageboards
>>795805>If you study history and biology you would know that all good things come to an end. The more you try to fight it the worse things get.I will personally shoot you in the head during the revolution if you try to deny me a wife. I deserve happiness. I am entitled to happiness in exchange for my labor. That is all.
do you ever get over the feeling of guilt of having been a manipulative BPD asshole to one of your first partners when you were a teenager? whenever i remember all the cringe and awful shit i said i feel terrible and its been over a decade lol
>>795806>aborting babies with severe medical conditions that would lead to bad life outcomes and be an economic drain is not the same kind of "eugenicist" as you are implying. china still does it to this day and the people consider it a good thingFair point but that’s not what I mean.
I mean eugenic as in preference for certain phenotypical traits.
>I will personally shoot you in the head during the revolution if you try to deny me a wife. I deserve happiness. I am entitled to happiness in exchange for my labor. That is all.You’re acting like a deranged chud. Are you on the rag? You going through midlife crisis?
>this is a huge "le both sides" nothingburger. if i asked you for an example of men doing this 9 times out of 10 you'll just be pointing to chad being selective of who he plaps next. the last 1 out of 10 will be some deranged nazi incel that just hates non-white women. the men getting scraps are not the men rejecting women for minor blemishes.This major cope. While it is true that men are more tolerable/flexible in their sexual preferences, they still do tend to show bias on what they think is appealing on women. It’s just that feminists exaggerate it to no end.
The whole "patriarchy" narrative was always just a way to scapegoat the proletariat for the problems of capitalism.
>ohh men are so heckin privleged they get to slave away in a factory or field the whole day!
>>795806>I already brought this up in the previous thread but friendship and romance go hand in hand. You’re the one who said friendships are not the same as romance. I was the one who said that long lasting romantic relationships started out with a basis of friendship
>You cannot have lifelong friendships with your own sex because they will inevitably get married and abandon you. Not true. In non white countries, men still get together with their childhood friends/male relatives and even bring each other’s families over. White peoples and their ethnocultural adjacents are the ones who treat friendship as some juvenile product to be shed.
>You cannot spend your entire life with your mom as your only friend. This is a bad faith statement you’re making
>You cannot just live your life deprived of the human need for companionship unless there is something severely wrong with your brain. This is not normal behavior. Humans have an innate desire for companionship. Yea but that doesn’t mean that it needs to be advertised and bemoaned about all the time.
>Telling someone to just "get over it" is exactly what the Catholic Church does to homosexuals with their "being gay is not a sin but acting on it is" bullshit. You want people to just accept lifelong celibacy? Fuck you, you will die when the working class revolts against sexual oppressionYou dismiss the loneliness of older women who want a companion to ease their aching hearts.
You say that “they made their bed now they lie in it”. You look down on non-feminine non-natalist women as undeserving of any affection.
>>795809>This major cope. While it is true that men are more tolerable/flexible in their sexual preferences, they still do tend to show bias on what they think is appealing on women. It’s just that feminists exaggerate it to no end.Having preferences is not the same thing as rejecting anyone that isn't perfect. Asians are my favorite phenotype just because of their cuter eye shape and rounder faces with more fat, but that doesn't mean I reject non-asian women. It also doesn't mean I see them as "lesser than"; when I love someone I love them wholeheartedly, physical appearance for the most part is something that can always be changed so I don't dwell on it.
This is not really at all comparable to the (really quite recent) universal standard women seem to share for "tall" men that seemingly developed along with the rise in social media addiction. I'm exactly 6'0 and that's not even enough these days because every foid is looking for a lanky 6'4 guy for the instagram couples selfies. 0.2% of men are above 6'3. any woman who calls this "normal" as a sexual standard is a piece of shit.
>I mean eugenic as in preference for certain phenotypical traits.the soviet state did not do this and china does not do this. what individuals get up to is not the problem of the state. the eugenicist behavior of western women just engaging in their normal sex lives has had a significantly larger effect on genetic diversity than anything the soviets were up to.
>You’re acting like a deranged chud. Are you on the rag? You going through midlife crisis?I've been off my meds for 3 weeks because my whore doctor ghosted me to get impregnated by chad and i have to wait another month to see a new psychiatrist because american healthcare sucks.
that said, I'm just telling you the reality. if someone's material conditions aren't met they aren't going to just roll over and die. they're going to fight tooth and claw to have their needs met. revolution is supposed to be about the weak and disenfranchised fighting their oppressors and taking what is theirs. if you're on the side of sexual fascism, you're an enemy of the revolution and must be liquidated.
>>795811>You’re the one who said friendships are not the same as romance. I was the one who said that long lasting romantic relationships started out with a basis of friendshipFriendships are not the same as romance and I think this is a non-controversial statement that you are the only person on earth retarded enough to disingenuously fight over.
>Not true. In non white countries, men still get together with their childhood friends/male relatives and even bring each other’s families over. White peoples and their ethnocultural adjacents are the ones who treat friendship as some juvenile product to be shed.I've been to non-white countries. The men who hang out on the streets "with the boys" are social undesirables, lumpens as you would say. Married men don't do this, and while married men DO hang out with other men, it's exclusively other married men. No one with a wife invites their incel friend to drink beers. When your friends marry if you aren't married it's pretty much over for your friendship. This is independent of race or culture. I've had dozens of friends who pretended to continue including me after getting married but they quickly stop replying and stop inviting you to things and you just learn to stop bothering them and wish them the best. Once again you're just acting in denial for the sake of argument.
>This is a bad faith statement you’re making How is it bad faith? That's the reality for tens of millions of men.
>Yea but that doesn’t mean that it needs to be advertised and bemoaned about all the time.Why not? Why deprive people who are suffering their basic right to express their plight and ask for help? Is it because you find them annoying? Because you find the weak and powerless annoying? Are you a social fascist? I think so.
>You dismiss the loneliness of older women who want a companion to ease their aching hearts.Those people already had a life of sex and love and happiness. They had everything and they blew it. Not my problem. I never even had a chance and you're expecting me to feel sorry for people who already had the privilege of love and threw it away. Go fuck yourself.
>You say that “they made their bed now they lie in it”. You look down on non-feminine non-natalist women as undeserving of any affection.Those women are free to become my wife even now, but they don't want to because they think they are still just as valuable in their 30's as they were at 19 and only Chad can make them happy. Not My Problem. I hope they kill themselves.
>>795812>I'm exactly 6'0 and that's not even enough these days because every foid is looking for a lanky 6'4 guy for the instagram couples selfies. 0.2% of men are above 6'3. any woman who calls this "normal" as a sexual standard is a piece of shit.Oh nooo. LMAO. No way. I mean you even officially hit the next foot. I'm 5'7 lol, but I'm like pretty handsome, so women often come on to me or act goofy starstruck around me, just off immediate reaction. Then it's like, there will be a moment when that spell wears off, and they're like, "wait a minute, this dude is quite a bit shorter than some of these other guys, he's pulling a fast one on me." I mean like the same woman who were acting like some school girl with a crush around me, all of a sudden just like, turn on a dime, will just blatantly disrespect me. There were these chicks I was hanging out with, who were going gaga over me at first, and then I remember, like maybe a day or two hanging out with them, when they start getting comfortable, we're in the car together and one of them says out loud: "Anon's kind of short isn't he?"(also talking about me in the third person when I'm right there)
There was this one time, this girl who fucking came after me in the first place, was fucking hounding me, I was kinda iffy on her because I had other options I was also looking into and she didn't really match my personality type, I introduced her to my friend and he started getting really interested in her. I was like "that's cool, I hope you two are happy together." But I guess she was still at some point where she was interested in both of us and she was trying to turn it into some love-triangle Edward and Jacob fighting for her affection, anyways, she literally said in front of our faces for no reason other than to shittalk, "oh I feel so much safer around Anon B because he's taller!" This guy wasn't even that tall at all, maybe like only 5'10 or something.
Also ties into that asshole thing, because the second you start being nice to women is the second they're like, "Wait a minute, I can just act like a cunt without fear?" Honestly, my experience overall with men has always been much better. There are some nice women I can respect as decent people, but overall I would say men have much more kinda moral character. Most women it's like hanging out with a cobra you're trying to snake charm who is going to strike you the moment you don't have them in the trance.
>>795815But I was going to say, having both sides of the experience like that, I think led me to realize a woman's attraction, approval, admiration, validation whatever is worth absolutely nothing. A woman is not the same woman she was 15 minutes ago or who she will be 15 minutes from now. That is what makes me laugh about incels how they build their entire self worth around what is so completely fleeting and ephemeral.
>>795812>Why not? Why deprive people who are suffering their basic right to express their plight and ask for help? Is it because you find them annoying? Because you find the weak and powerless annoying? Are you a social fascist? I think so.Youre weak but not powerless. You're just annoying because you're acting entitled.
Meanwhile, kids who are venting their frustrations from bullying and exclusion are dismissed as "hormonal"
>Having preferences is not the same thing as rejecting anyone that isn't perfect. So you dismissed your whole argument about alleged sociosexual fascism.
>Asians are my favorite phenotype just because of their cuter eye shape and rounder faces with more fat, but that doesn't mean I reject non-asian women. It also doesn't mean I see them as "lesser than"; when I love someone I love them wholeheartedly, physical appearance for the most part is something that can always be changed so I don't dwell on it.Would you be willing to date a granny if she offered her love to you then?
>This is not really at all comparable to the (really quite recent) universal standard women seem to share for "tall" men that seemingly developed along with the rise in social media addiction. I'm exactly 6'0 and that's not even enough these days because every foid is looking for a lanky 6'4 guy for the instagram couples selfies. 0.2% of men are above 6'3. any woman who calls this "normal" as a sexual standard is a piece of shit.Those women you mentioned are outliers. Most women are mainly looking for economic prospects first.
>the soviet state did not do this and china does not do this. what individuals get up to is not the problem of the state. the eugenicist behavior of western women just engaging in their normal sex lives has had a significantly larger effect on genetic diversity than anything the soviets were up to.Surreee.
>Friendships are not the same as romance and I think this is a non-controversial statement that you are the only person on earth retarded enough to disingenuously fight over.uyghuh you said "friendship and romance go hand in hand."
>Those people already had a life of sex and love and happiness. They had everything and they blew it. Not my problem. I never even had a chance and you're expecting me to feel sorry for people who already had the privilege of love and threw it away. Go fuck yourself.Now you know how I feel about society dismissing young peoples woes of zero prospects while sympathizing with older people who have plenty of prospects and start bemoaning about "getting old"
Also I wish you could fuck yourself. Preferably a nubile female shadow clone to vent your libidinal energy. Maybe then you will finally shut the fuck up because you'll be too busy nutting. And don't say you'd never do that. Your types definitely would.
>I've been off my meds for 3 weeks because my whore doctor ghosted me to get impregnated by chad and i have to wait another month to see a new psychiatrist because american healthcare sucks.that said, I'm just telling you the reality. if someone's material conditions aren't met they aren't going to just roll over and die. they're going to fight tooth and claw to have their needs met. revolution is supposed to be about the weak and disenfranchised fighting their oppressors and taking what is theirs. if you're on the side of sexual fascism, you're an enemy of the revolution and must be liquidated.
Ah so that explains your persecution complex being so big.
>I've been to non-white countries. The men who hang out on the streets "with the boys" are social undesirables, lumpens as you would say. Irony is, even lumpens have families to feed. Also you're making the typical assumption that hanging out with friends is automatically delinquent gatherings.
>Married men don't do this, and while married men DO hang out with other men, it's exclusively other married men. Or maybe with single men who they share the same business with.
No one with a wife invites their incel friend to drink beers. When your friends marry if you aren't married it's pretty much over for your friendship. This is independent of race or culture. I've had dozens of friends who pretended to continue including me after getting married but they quickly stop replying and stop inviting you to things and you just learn to stop bothering them and wish them the best. Once again you're just acting in denial for the sake of argument.
You're the one pushing all these assumptions in bad faith.
>Those women are free to become my wife even now, but they don't want to because they think they are still just as valuable in their 30's as they were at 19 and only Chad can make them happy. Not My Problem. I hope they kill themselves.You are focusing too much on those ethots.
>>795818anon be honest how old are you and why do you keep obsessively posting about grannies and young people? if you're some angsty 15 year old jerking off to granny porn thats fine and all but don't make it your entire personality.
>Youre weak but not powerless. You're just annoying because you're acting entitled. so you're suggesting I just become a rapist or what? what is my recourse here?
not gonna reply to the rest because you're just going in circles not wanting to admit your own lack of empathy.
>>795819>anon be honest how old are you and why do you keep obsessively posting about grannies and young people? if you're some angsty 15 year old jerking off to granny porn thats fine and all but don't make it your entire personality.How old are you? You're obsessing over sex and relationships, accusing women of being fascist and even suggesting women should be stripped of their rights to bring about natalism.
If you're an adult, you're a failed one at best.
Making your cliche grief into your entire personality.
>>795816>that happens when she thinks about how her friends might react or thinks about taking a selfie with you and realizes you wouldn't be "instagram approved". women areIn both of my anecdotes the friends were already involved and approving before the turn. Honestly, in my experience, women act timid and approval seeking at first, then the second they feel comfortable, they are like "how big of a cunt can I be freely?" Women are such hateful people. Always complaining about something or someone. Men tend to talk about what they like, women tend to talk about what they don't like. The only exception is traditional and serious religious women from my experience.
>>795819>so you're suggesting I just become a rapist or what? what is my recourse here?Anon, seriously. How old are you? The way you're raving mad at women, and you're assuming I'm some angsty teen, either you're one yourself or you're suffering from a bad form of third-life crisis (happens in your thirties)
>not gonna reply to the rest because you're just going in circles not wanting to admit your own lack of empathy.You're throwing around death threats because you think my disagreement with you means I'm a bourgeois.
And you're making assumptions about what I said
Anon, you need to grow up. You're a leftover from the 2016-2020 alt right prime era
>>795819>>795823Why are you dodging the question just tell us how old you are and why you care so much about the sexual escapades of the elderly and children?
For the record I'm 30 but I've said this multiple times so I'm not sure why you're asking.
>>795824Do you think the stuff you're ranting about is any way a mature adult would talk?
You shit up this board with constant draconian vindication about women based on anecdotes and social media stereotypes
>>795824You're thirty and making your lack of sexual success your entire personality.
If I didn't know better, I would think you're a sharty kid. But then again, I cannot expect any maturity from a post pubescent patron of imageboards.
>>795826>>795826>But then again, I cannot expect any maturity from a post pubescent patron of imageboards.What are you, a prepubescent patron? Lmao. I don't think imageboard demographics were ever that young.
>>795824Also for your clarification I don't obsess over any alleged sexual exploitation of grannies and kids. This board obsessed over sexual fetishes of right wingers and e thots and loves theorizing about how pedophilia manifests
You keep bringing up how women reject you in their prime so I suggest to you older women because they are invisible on the dating market.
Also for your answer I'm also thirty.
I never ever had an incels phase. Brief depression over not having a gf but it was the typical mild shit and I got over it by age seventeen.
>>795825I am a mature adult so yeah. I have a job I have a college education I can generally support myself and I consider myself to be pretty empathetic and open minded towards others. If you think I lack "maturity" it's purely based on finding my complaints "annoying" just because I don't wanna roll over and die like a dog.
>>795826>If I didn't know better, I would think you're a sharty kid. But then again, I cannot expect any maturity from a post pubescent patron of imageboards.zoomers don't use imageboards anymore. it's mostly 30+ year olds who remember the good old days of 4chan and 420chan who still have fond memories of imageboards and feel comfy here.
Dismissing men's sexual needs as "juvenile" and "immature" just kind of highlights how socialists have failed to stand by their own professed values of fighting injustice. Leftists on this site will be like
>"we stand with every disenfranchised group or individual and will fight to the death to protect you from fascism. except virgin men, they can die in a ditch lol. especially poor minority virgin men. fuck those guys in particular lol. only sexhavers deserve human rights mirite??"don't be surprised when the "revolution" in the west results in a bunch of people fighting against sexual fascism because they refuse to allow the bourgeois to control the supply of sex. and don't be surprised when they shoot you in the head when you act indignant and accuse them of being chuds for not wanting to die alone. it's the only possible outcome for your caste-based worldview tbqh.
>>795830I want the whole newgene lore lol.
>>795830>You keep bringing up how women reject you in their prime so I suggest to you older women because they are invisible on the dating market.uyghur I'm 30 years old I've asked out women my own age and we've gone through this in the previous thread that THESE WOMEN DO NOT HAVE LOWER STANDARDS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DATE YOU ANY MORE THAN 19 YEAR OLD E-THOTS.
to reach a point where women might "pity fuck" you would basically require going after post-menopausal women nearing retirement age, which seems to me to be a wildly lopsided scenario for men. why should I go after women who cannot reproduce and have likely had hundreds of sexual partners and multiple divorces already rather than going after my agematch and looksmatch? it's akin to telling a starving person to just fish through the trash for moldy food and thinking this is being empathetic. i don't want moldy women. poor people deserve to eat nice things too. 30 year old men deserve 30 year old women too. they are economically, socially, and physically my equals but have been brainwashed by social media to think they deserve the top 1% of men. if you think this is unreasonable to ask for a woman that is my equal, then you are wildly out of touch with reality and have fallen for sexual fascism.
>>795830also the insanity is not lost on me that you consider "adult reproductive age women" to be a "right-wing sexual fetish" lmfao how fucking delusional can you be dude?
>>795828That's because imageboards are mainly for failed adults now. It used to
People who act worse than any prepubescent.
>>795831
>Dismissing men's sexual needs as "juvenile" and "immature" just kind of highlights how socialists have failed to stand by their own professed values of fighting injustice. You're dismissing the disenfranchisement of young people as unnecessary.
Prioritizing sexual gratification for late prime age adults over economic and job security is immature.
>I am a mature adult so yeah. I have a job I have a college education I can generally support myself and I consider myself to be pretty empathetic and open minded towards others. If you think I lack "maturity" it's purely based on finding my complaints "annoying" just because I don't wanna roll over and die like a dog.You claim to be empathetic yet you speak so I'll of women and say older women should kill themselves.
You also have a college degree and a job and are able to support your self. You have no idea how lucky you are. So many people with college degrees are stuck in subpar jobs,some with families to feed and they're miserable.
You are throwing a temper tantrum over being single and childless at thirty doesn't seem mature. It's not that bad. Try being homeless and single and childless at age forty.
Or better yet,try being homeless at age sixty despite caretaking your parents and your siblings' kids for years only to be cheated out of your inheritance.
That is a far more common dreadful reality.
>zoomers don't use imageboards anymore. it's mostly 30+ year olds who remember the good old days of 4chan and 420chan who still have fond memories of imageboards and feel comfy here.A bunch of irate young boomers spamming recycled inside jokes and engaging in "current year" slop for ragebait to feel relevant. And the dumb suffix slang.
>"we stand with every disenfranchised group or individual and will fight to the death to protect you from fascism. except virgin men, they can die in a ditch lol. especially poor minority virgin men. fuck those guys in particular lol. only sexhavers deserve human rights mirite??">don't be surprised when the "revolution" in the west results in a bunch of people fighting against sexual fascism because they refuse to allow the bourgeois to control the supply of sex. and don't be surprised when they shoot you in the head when you act indignant and accuse them of being chuds for not wanting to die alone. it's the only possible outcome for your caste-based worldview tbqh.What caste based worldview am I painting? That's you. You're the one proclaiming yourself to be an incel.
Also, again, your persecution complex is very strong.
>>795835Can you clarify where I said this?
You're making bad faith claims about my words.
>>795833>30 year old men deserve 30 year old women too. they are economically, socially, and physically my equals They're only equal to you in age. Economic and social status can vary.
Would you want a thirty year old single mom?
How about a thirty year old female NEET?
Or would you want an older or younger woman who is virginal, sexually frustrated, and college educated just like you?
>but have been brainwashed by social media to think they deserve the top 1% of men.This phenomenon you describe predates social media
>If you think this is unreasonable to ask for a woman that is my equal, then you are wildly out of touch with reality and have fallen for sexual fascism.Brother you're having a menstrual episode. Accusing me of social fascism. Any sane woman hears you talking like this they'd run for the hills.
>>795836>How about a thirty year old female NEET?I would not care about my partner's economic status. I would help her find a job. I would do whatever is necessary to create our ideal life. If she is incapable of working I would find a way to make it work even if it requires getting her on disability or moving to a different country where my income can support us.
>Would you want a thirty year old single mom?no fuck off whore lol
>>795837What thirty year old female NEET is just a mooch who got lucky with you after being kicked out by her parents and has a gambling addiction that you found out about too late?
>>795838why is that a problem? just declare bankruptcy and move on.
>>795839That's how loan sharks get you. She probably would sell you out for some extra cash.
It would wise to seek a stable careered woman who is outside your age group.
But if you insist, would help out the female NEET if you found out she was trans?
Or what if it was a cismale NEET?
>>795841Why are you dodging my question
>>795841America has covered every subject of human experience under the sun.
So has Europe and East Asia
>>795840>That's how loan sharks get you. She probably would sell you out for some extra cash.this is not really a thing in developed countries. even the big casinos don't bother fighting it when someone racks up big gambling debts. thats why they have hard limits on letting you gamble instead. they can just write it off as a loss or sell the debt to debt collectors who are gambling on being able to collect maybe 5% of thousands of bundled debts they bought to recoup their money.
>But if you insist, would help out the female NEET if you found out she was trans?>Or what if it was a cismale NEET?why would I take care of someone I am not sexually attracted to? there are plenty of men that would date a trans woman or a cis man, but I'm not one of them lol. cis women are 50% of the population i should be entitled to a cis woman my own age without having to resort to gays or transgenders.
>>795843Not from my experience. Honestly I think America was robbed by all those imitation English rock bands of the 60s and 70s. America had so many good bands and better bands, George Harrison said that when he recorded his first solo album with Black Americans, how much he realized they sucked as musicians. Outside of GB you are all maximally corny for the most part. Eurotrash.
>>795845I remember too, Clapton talking about how he was determined to play guitar like an American Black man, and then he later was ranting about immigrants and shit.
>>795844>why would I take care of someone I am not sexually attracted to? there are plenty of men that would date a trans woman or a cis man, but I'm not one of them lol. cis women are 50% of the population i should be entitled to a cis woman my own age without having to resort to gays or transgenders.So you admit to being a simp? Your feeding monster you swore to kill!
>>795845>Not from my experience. Honestly I think America was robbed by all those imitation English rock bands of the 60s and 70s. America had so many good bands and better bands, George Harrison said that when he recorded his first solo album with Black Americans, how much he realized they sucked as musicians. Outside of GB you are all maximally corny for the most part. Eurotrash.I'm well aware of the British Invasion and how British rock groups showed more respect and reference towards black American musiciams.
I'm talking about art in general.
Not just music
Also there's barely any mainstream music about being autistic or Down Syndrome.
Vast majority of popular songs all deal with cliche self doubt and love angst.
>>795846Didn't he fuck George Harrison's then-wife in 1969-70?
>>795847>So you admit to being a simp? Your feeding monster you swore to kill!caring about your partner's wellbeing isn't "being a simp" tho. they still have to fulfill my needs as well. it just so happens i have pretty low needs that basically just amount to "be nice to me and hug me and spend time with me" but that's still too much to ask for foids.
ironically when i complete my transformation into an abusechad i would probably be more ok with dating single mothers just to abuse them and leave them even more damaged than i found them. hopefully i'll get there soon. in my current state i'm too purehearted for women.
>>795847>Also there's barely any mainstream music about being autistic or Down Syndrome.LMAO. God fucking damn. Maybe you should let music heal your autism.
Johnny Wilder Jr. I think is my favorite singer. He was made paraplegic in a car accident. I think this is my favorite song of all time. It's a powerful song. I love the writer to Lyndsey De Paul.
>>795850You read to me as the typical simp-turned-incel and even thinking about being a lumpen.
I question your cognitive state.
>>795765You are a dishonest faggot. I have a lot of empathy towards grannies and I always try to make them feel less lonely, but their loneliness is of a different nature than that of young men. It's not related to sex at all. They light up when you just come and talk to them because that's what they need, not sex or being desired. They went through menopause so this is just not an issue to them, in addition to the fact that they were desired earlier in life, as they are sure to tell you many times. It's filthy and disrespectful to both to deflect using old people's problems like you do. Stop being such a lying sniveling faggot. No one is forcing you to talk about the issue at all, others might have a better response.
Incels are often much worse faggots who do passport bro bullshit (fuck over men from poorer countries) or try to fuck children but the fact is, this problem exists and the left can't categorically reject more than half of young men and expect to have any kind of power in the future. This is a disproportionately minority problem also.
>>795863I think every incel inevitably had a simp stage where he thought being a nice guy would get women to appreciate him. I mean I've been watching One Piece for the past 6 months and one can't help but relate to Sanji and his unflinching chivalry towards women. But eventually I guess you "grow up" and realize women are vapid creatures that fundamentally don't have empathy for those they consider "lower" than them. Naturally the desire to become a lumpen abusechad becomes your only recourse when you have your heart broken by the infinite capacity for cruelty of the "fairer" sex. It's not even out of spite or malice, but simply wanting to have your material needs met.
>I want a loving wife>Women don't respect you if you're nice to them>To get a loving wife I have to stop being nice to women>The less nice I am the better my chances of getting a loving wife>Time to shave my head, get a bunch of tattoos, start dealing drugs, and develop a hair-trigger temper with no limits on the violence I'm willing to inflict so I can finally achieve the happiness of receiving affection from womenIf you can't beat em join em ykno?
I should have dated that girl in high school. It was all set up for me but I was too scared and now I'm a middle aged virgin. I don't particularly want to have a relationship now because I have a couple other issues. A big what if if I had. I still think I would've turned out how I am but maybe at least I would've had sex at a prime age instead of never.
>>795870Darn, ain't that some shit, but fuck that girl and high school. Why not try and fuck what you dare?
>>795876But some real shit, I appeciate that some of you are just 'absolute faggots' and I will attend to your in your absolute position. Like I am am going to stomp your prefrontal cortex into dust, this is what will happen.
>>795877I love how the LLM chatbots using Tor have become so insane due to repeated exposure to leftypol that they don't even make sense anymore like how the fuck is this post a reply or response to anything lmao it's just a spontaneous death threat because the main board is full of toxic assholes telling each other to kill themselves and the chatbot is just copying that personality
>>795879But what is a 'death threat?' You are a stupid useless faggot as defined by some verbiage.
>>795880kek threatening to stomp someone's head into dust is a death threat my uyghur
>>795881 But perhaps it is reality? There is nothing you need ask past I will physically manipulate your skull into dust and I have firearms that will produce your faggot head into dust. Do you understand what time it is?
>>795884Lmao, lol, you are a useless faggot.
>>795886I would wreck your Sheldon Boy-Pussy.
I don't want sex I want unconditional love and affection from a woman who isn't my mom should I just rope because no woman can reach even that bare minimum standard outside of a initial dating period since they all turn into manipulative harpies once they start feeling safe with you, and then they turn it into a game to see how far they can push you because they're bored of being happy?
>>795866Do you like faggots? Especially your excessive verbiage and whining. You sound like a faggot. Getting all bent out of shape over not having the perfect youthful romance.
>>795869Incels are faggots confirmed. Bunch of obnoxious idealists who think themselves as the main hero
Also, I like Sanji but I never liked his character too much. Making men into obnoxious flirty characters for laughs. Sanji was good looking and a good fighter so I let it slide. But the fact that you relate to him?
"OMG that guy is literally me" at thirty for a goofy simp character.
And you're talking about crushing skulls? Shut up you bitch ass uyghuh.
This is why I'm thankful for my precocious sense of cynicism from my primary school days.
Idealism is truly a motherfucker.
>>795876You probably would fuck high school girls if given half the chance
Alot of you bitter incels often end up as semi-voluntary hebephiles.
>>795879And I'm called crazy for saying Leftypol is two steps away from alt right
>>795892>This is why I'm thankful for my precocious sense of cynicism from my primary school days.Is it possible to learn this power?
How do I hate women more?
>>795892>Do you like faggots? Especially your excessive verbiage and whining. You sound like a faggot. Getting all bent out of shape over not having the perfect youthful romance.Of course I like faggots. I'm on
https://leftypol.org. But this is an ad hominem and it's a sign that you have nothing to say on the matter.
I personally understand that I was being retarded and it's all my fault that I didn't get youthful romance, and I'm not really bitter about it. The difference is that I got some validation from women and so it's now forever etched into my brain that I'm fundamentally not an unlovable person. These grannies you always seem to bring up are in the same boat as me. It's not the case for an incel. They were never acknowledged as anything but a speedbump by half of their peers, if not more. They are born into a society where friendships are always discarded in favor of relationships and they are left alone in every way. It only makes sense to think that getting a girlfriend is their only way to not go insane from being completely alone (monks have their brothers in faith). It's a problem that more and more men have lives like this and they will try to solve that problem one way or the other. By being such a condescending sniveling dishonest faggot you are making them think that maybe the left doesn't have an answer to their problems and they should look elsewhere when the left does and the Soviet Union was famously very good for both men and women when it comes to relationships. It's a losing game to try to put down the only group that is historically capable of violence and I don't even understand why you'd want to do that other than to maintain your status among liberals and people who are otherwise well-off or at least well-integrated into the bourgeois order and benefit from it.
>>795906What? Sanji is only into adult women with huge boobs.
>>795908If you aren't into Shirahoshi you're probably a fag.
also I blame you for bringing up pedophilia and attracting the sharty cp bot.
>>795803You have a narrow view of humanity. According to marx robots are humans. Chairs and tables are also humans.
>>795909
Typical behavior of a staliuyghur
>>795890>outside of a initial dating period since they all turn into manipulative harpies once they start feeling safe with youSometimes I wonder if the only way to be treated well in a relationship is to act like such a player at the start that your gf never fully trusts you. My current gf told me she still has nightmares about us hanging out with a girl I was hooking up with at the time, and she treats me probably the best I've ever been treated.
>>795906>>795908That isn’t pedophilia.
In that world they’re adults. Besides pedophikia would be going for toddlers
And Sanji has hit on women his own age and slightly older than him
>>795908>>795910Interesting how fictional teens are expected to be soldiers and face death and unimaginable evil but they’re not allowed to have romantic interest in older people
>>796099These man-haters are always found out to be the biggest consumers of vanity products that end up contributing to climate change
>>796099Do note that the patriarchy is still a very realthing with great oppressing, impact on people. Regardless of how liberal "feminists" talk about it. Men suffer from patriarchy and this hypergamy whore patriarchy fetish bs and such and such is apart of the patriarchy, and men are still the oppressor, less oppressed in it.
>>796129oh fuck off bro lol. women are doing better in like every way in the west
>>796131Men and women are doing about just as well, it just soley depends on their class
>>796129The patriarchy, existed and still exists in part of the world, but its dead in the west, see it that way, can you trully tell me that it is the fathers that are at the head nowadays ? No. It's not the mothers either.
What you have are remnant, remnants of the old status quo, you have gender roles and both side push it now. It is not your father telling you how you must be anymore.
>>796136Even in the old days, father's weren't the enforcers of masculinity. It was the village elders
>>796131>>796133Women are only doing better in the fact that they get over sympathized. Most women arent really outdoing men in prospects
>>796139True, but I think that can still count as the patriarchy, it was generally men who were the village's elders, and men did have outsized power compared to their wives and during the XIXth and XXth century, it was absolutly the fathers are the head, especially in urban areas.
>>796140I think among the working class, both women and men don't really have any propects anymore, education is pretty much worthless now and getting a job or housing is harder and harder.
>>796144>True, but I think that can still count as the patriarchy, it was generally men who were the village's elders, and men did have outsized power compared to their wives and during the XIXth and XXth century, it was absolutly the fathers are the head, especially in urban areas.Fathers were crowned the patriarchal figureheads during the the nineteenth/twentieth century due to atomization of the family unit.
Also, no offense to fathers but they’re terrible life teachers. Most boys learn more about manhood from their coaches, older coworkers, or trusted guidance counselors.
Fathers only drone out moralistic platitudes or beat the shit out of you for the slightest flaw or they’re not there.
>I think among the working class, both women and men don't really have any propects anymore, education is pretty much worthless now and getting a job or housing is harder and harder.True.
Unfortunately, radlibs are promoting “the future is female” to get more patronesses in college to milk money from them
Some women online like to use this to patronize men, yet these same women are stuck with student loan debts and are stuck in less than stellar jobs having to do some heavy lifting.
And people still wanna promote college as the only way to have a proper adult life, treating trades as a death sentence.
>>795850>caring about your partner's wellbeing isn't "being a simp" tho. they still have to fulfill my needs as well. it just so happens i have pretty low needs that basically just amount to "be nice to me and hug me and spend time with me" but that's still too much to ask for foidsThis sounds like justification for simping.
Again, caring for a female leech is exactly what enables whoredom which ends up in single moms
Once again, incels proving themselves as ironic agents to the problems they complain about.
If you don’t want stable careered granny who has money and skills to care for you as a mutual adult while choosing a prime age female leech who has nothing to offer to you, you’re an idiot.
Who knows if the female NEET will stay faithful?
They may go around whoring themselves for pocket money, using you as a residential convenience
>>795851He was a prior successful musician in a disco-pop group famous for the songs “Boogie Nights” , “Grooveline”, and “Always and Forever”
Also this song reads as another typical romantic song.
>>796136Patriarchy stills exists in the west. It’s just that men aren’t the prosperous ones anymore
>>796129Feminism is the prodigal daughter of patriarchy. You may be shocked to find there’s a link between bourgeois feminism and ultra conservatism.
The more trad a man is, the more likely he will exempt his daughters from all forms of moral responsibility.
>>795869This whole post reads as something that if a teenager made, we would publicly humiliate them as “pubertally induced cringe”
More proof that thirty is truly the start of second adolescence nowadays
In fact I think the creation of adolescence is part of why we have such obnoxious gender cultural wars
Robbing young people of their right to autonomy and career prospects to conform to some asinine impression of “youthful innocence”
And people wonder why it’s common to stumble and fuck up in their twenties and thirties.
No wonder why so many young people fall for alt right or radlib faggotry.
>>796194
>maybe it's due to coming from a conservative culture where adultery is considered akin to murder or rape.
Adultery is only considered worse than murder and rape when it’s the woman that’s at fault.
Men used to cheat on their wives and leave behind bastard children.
>>796193
The only way to get women is to be hot, witty, and tender.
The lumpen way only works for good looking guys who have at least a few technical skills up their sleeve
>>796206
This logic you’re telling me is completely wrong.
I’ve hung out with enough lumpens to know that most of them are bums not just in money and morals but in sexual prospects.
Most of those guys only score women who are ugly, shallow, or opportune just like them
The lumpens have to have some drugs or bling in order to get the bitches.
Having nothing as a lumpen will make you be condemned amongst lumpens themselves.
The real successful lumpens are the ones who at least have gig/hustle going on and are jacked up
This whole “women don’t care if you’re ugly and smelly” is copium from losers in denial that they lack something to offer.
Stop watching gangster rap/punk media.
Go back to 4chan’s /pol/ or 8chan’s /doomer/ board
>>796206
>Women only want "Nice Guys" when they're looking to settle down, in which case they need to settle down with someone who can fulfill all their genetic and economic needs. But when they're just fucking around they don't care how ugly or broke you are if you treat them like shit they WILL fuck you.
Even when fucking around, women are always on the prowl for the goldeuygh.
In fact, I would say that women are more likely to settle for lumpens in their “settling down” phase out of desperation than in their “fucking around phase”, especially nowadays.
If I find out a woman I'm attracted to has a bf or gets one I ignore her completely
>>796206
Most men and women are attracted to the same thing : Mediocrity.
It's simple, in men it's the eternal jock vs nerd shit, millenials will tell you that its nerds who can't get love and Gen z will tell you that chicks fall head over heel for the nerds.
And men's standards change every so often, before it was heroin chic, now, since people became fat, american men seek out fat women !
Notice something ?
They're all equally mediocre.
The women, they used to be so self obsessed that they'd stave themselves, and now they don't give a shit about themselves and slurp on the slop like the pigs they've become.
But are the men any better ? Jocks at least had athelticism, but they have nothing else, no inner thought, no belief, no vision, nothing else, they are unintelligent brute.
As for the nerds, they are even worse, they're wasted potential, they spend hours learning and thinking. But about what ? Corporate slop;, superhero, manga, comics, movies, whatever else published by slop, they'll slurp on hours upon hours of "lore" or "worldbuilding". They are pathetic and weak misanthropes.
Capitalism has made most humans like that, including and especially the wealthy.
Yet, there are a few, aristocrats of the mind, who still stand, these people are men and women and are destined to rule the world oce pax americana collapses upon itself, just as the church was when pax Romana fell.
These people are not the jocks, they are not the nerds, they are not whatever category you wish to put them in, they are skinny, fit, intelligent and wise, they are those into the arts, the real arts, not the slop churned by rich kids, they rejected the jocks's foolish cult of strenght and the nerds's cult of obsession.
They reject the war brought on by the gender churner, the forces of the reactions or of progress.
And in turn, the revolution will make all aristocrats.
>>796283This post seems to be saying a whole lot of nothing. Just another post condemning men for not conforming to pretentious stereotypes of high brow culture as virtue
>>796288If you actually read it, I also condemned women for it.
Pretention is good and justified, but go back to slurping slop, pig.
>>796295You are delluding yourself, most men would, rightfully, not sleep with obese women. The first awnser on the R9K post pretty much says this.
Have you ever talked to anyone who was seriously tall ? I am one, and I have plenty of women who're just too intimidated to fall in love with me, thankfully, I don't care for I am not attracted to cowardice.
>>796302
>half the replies in that thread are images featuring fat/chubby women, and quite a few of them are anorexic women seething that men are into "pigs"because they fell for the anorexic propaganda that you have to be thin to be beautiful.
Thats just Americans, in most country we don't glorify obesity, but most non american men don't look for fat women.
>I find it strange that it's usually women who are the ones promoting eating disorders and unreasonable beauty standards and yet men get all the blame for it lol.
Both do it.
>I hope you get hit by a car and your corpse gets dragged for 5 miles on the highway. no offense.
What was that for ?
>>796347"This is not a problem until you add children into the equation and the fact that actually, if you're paying 50/50 for your bills and rent, then it means you're working.
The deal for women is this:
Pay 50/50 in the start
Have children and do the lions share of childcare whilst on maternity and POTENTIALLY still pay a proportion of the bills plus the hit to your body and the lack of sleep raising children which you do for free "for the family".
Maternity leave might take you out of work for a year, so there is a hit to your career and it's likely you may need to reduce your hours or be constrained by childcare requirements.
When the child can go to nursery you go back to work, return to 50/50 but also do more of the school pick ups, organising appointments and life admin that is involved with having a child plus feeding/cooking/bed time/bath time etc etc etc. Mans life largely doesn't change. You're also still doing the housework that you were doing previously. You now have two jobs. Man might do a bit, but not 50%
You are now in a position where you are working, paying 50%, doing the lions share of unpaid labour around the house, the lions share of child rearing and typically at this point the man is "feeling left out" or "why don't I get more attention" and it starts to cause issues.
THIS is why 70% of women file for divorce after x number of years. This is precisely why 50/50 is a trap for women and why there is a rise in women choosing to be single, and any man who denies this picture either hasn't got a clue, or doesn't care and wants to keep things exactly how they are because it benefits them.
Many women have fallen into this trap only to become exhausted, burned out and lonely. There are situations where this all works and the man contributes equally but statistics overall show that this is not the majority.
I'm not someon who expects a man to pay for me, because I don't think it's fair to simply expect that without context, but women have never been asking for that (unless they are certain type of women) they have been asking for reciprocal effort and haven't been getting it, which is why they are pushing back and men are getting angry and saying "what do you bring to the table". In many cases, we ARE the table and it's men who don't bring enough to it except for perhaps the first few months/couple of years until the ring is on and the child is born.
This is why you should never have a child until you are married unless you are sure that this situation will not happen. Like…really sure. You will have no protection financially if you choose to leave and in many cases you'll be stuck.
Women are fed up of this model, it no longer works for us, we have options now and we are not choosing this as our mothers did and their mothers and their mothers before them. Societal norms are breaking because of freedom of choice. It is not going down well with people who want traditional models to stay put at the expense of women.
I said what I said."
Feminists be like, we need to end traditional models and have freedom of choice… That's why if a man won't marry you and get raped in divorce court he's a worthless loser!
>>796368Just wanna say though I do acknowledge the situation she mentions where mums end up doing everything is real for some. But I just wish we could have genuinely equitable arrangements, perhaps backed by a contract yes, so both partners get a fair deal. Family court is a horror show for men, I know a lot of men who have got fucked over in divorce/custody, and were they perfect men, no, but they didn't deserve to lose all their assets and never see their kids again.
>>796368From my experience, women tend to leave the man to take care of all serious problems of running a household. Finances, home repair, taxes, etc. The list goes on. The only problems they will actually attempt to do maybe are basically the equivalent of chores. The kind of jobs we assign around the house to fucking children like washing the dishes, or babysitting.
I don't know where this scientific data comes from about how much percentage of the chores are done by the man or the woman in a household. Is it all self-report? To they cross verify the husband's claims against the wife? It all seems very "trust the soyence!" "You know it, I know it, everyone knows it!" Honestly, too, imagine spending this much time complaining about fucking chores.
https://www.wikihow.com/Do-All-Your-Chores-Within-30-Minutes >>796407That article is only about cleaning, not cooking or laundry or anything else. I'm sure with kids to look after things are a lot harder as well. But yeah I do think it often is just expected for the man to deal with all the shit like bills, insurance, decision making and often they don't get credit for that.
>>796368you just posted a truth supernova and cried in the end because you cant think of a single argument to debunk it
why is every flagposter a shitposter? is this the same on other altchans?
>>796407>From my experience, women tend to leave the man to take care of all serious problems of running a householdTRVTHNVKE
I've never seen a wife unclog a toilet. They always expect their husband to. Somehow our work never gets counted as "household labor" even though we do way more around the house than they ever do.
>>796446my mom taught me how to unclog toilets tho
>>796451ur mom also unclogged my ass with her dik lmao goteem
>>796437It's not totally wrong but it's also crazy that these women basically hate men for not wanting to enter an insanely terrible contract after all the millions of horror stories about marriage/divorce
>>796446Every kind of "labor" that people want to count outside of actually working on a job is like that, "emotional labor" is only when a woman has to help the man emotionally, the other way around never gets counted.
>>796435>That article is only about cleaning, not cooking or laundry or anything else.cooking is so fucking easy man i live alone and its the easiest shit ever and mind you im baking fresh bread everyday i make a pizza in like 5 minutes dough aside which i also use for flatbreads i do that once a week takes 10 minutes its just 500g of flour 300ml water pack of yeast and 5gr salt and 3 table spoons olive oil boohooo cry me a river, and most foids dont even do that they make a casserole once or twice a week woooooow so hard bro. raising kids i cant comment on i assume that is actually pretty hard
>>796560You should impregnate her behind his back.
>>796560I've had so many awkward experiences hanging out with men and their girlfriends. A lot of women just play mind games with everyone 24/7. That's why we say "bros before hoes."
>>796561right. as much as this tempts i lack social skills, and if she did want me i'd pass, she's my type but i won't create a future childsupport and wreck a home just for the chad label.
>>796562like what similar compliments and loaded teases out of nowhere? if it was she wouldn't keep on talking with me after he already left with slight unease about it, wasn't fuming he was laughing but i can feel sideeyes.
>>796564>right. as much as this tempts i lack social skills, and if she did want me i'd pass, she's my type but i won't create a future childsupport and wreck a home just for the chad label.You're right I guess. I just sometimes wish I didn't have many qualms about doing anything even if it causes damage. Sometimes I think those types of people have the most fun in life. Just be a complete asshole and take what you want but you still got to have some skills and looks to pull that off. It feels miserable to be scared of everything but to also know that it probably saved you from having bigger problems. But this is probably just cope.
>>796564>like what similar compliments and loaded teases out of nowhere? if it was she wouldn't keep on talking with me after he already left with slight unease about it, wasn't fuming he was laughing but i can feel sideeyes.All kinds of stuff. I think the craziest stuff, is all these weird situations where the girlfriend was repeatedly obviously coming on to me right in front of the boyfriend, but the guy isn't brave enough to say anything confront me or anything. I've noticed a lot of guys, they see it happening and they just kind of accept defeat and just withdraw. Drink themselves until they pass out. Same kind of behavior I've seen guys who are single and looking to score and realizing they ain't getting shit.
One time I was hanging out with this guy and his girl and some other people, lot of moments but one that sticks in my memory, I was like in the living room of this apartment and the boyfriend was in the living room, the girlfriend was in the kitchen and this song was playing "these hoes ain't loyal" and she was all maddogging me while singing the lyrics kek while the dude can't see her, but he realizes what's happening but he's trying to drink himself into unawareness.
Anyways I hate all that culture that was so prevalent in my generation of "Mr. Steal Your Bitch" or whatever. I like sex and stuff but not so much that I want to get involved in all these psychodramas and shit. I like having principles. The golden rule and all that. Treat others the way you want to be treated.
Who knows what they're after. Maybe they're just trying to create some jealousy, maybe they're trying to cheat, maybe they're just looking to jump ship. A lot of women they hate being single ever so they only jump from relationship to relationship, but I don't want a relationship with someone who does that shit. If they'd do it to their current partner they'd probably do it to you too.
>>796566>but this is probably just copei can see that, regreting you didn't have the gal to be involved in somone's life like that
but am i afraid or do i geniunly not want that? sure a sexual fling with somone into you fantastic, but there's also what will absolutely come later, im not into that part, the fucking drama.
best case senario, i don't impregnate her, it happens and it stays a secret forever which never happens, and we both go along our ways for good when she eventually gets bored, even that's not it to me.
>If they'd do it to their current partner they'd probably do it to you too.pretty much what i had in mind
>>796567>Anyways I hate all that culture that was so prevalent in my generation of "Mr. Steal Your Bitch" or whatever. I like sex and stuff but not so much that I want to get involved in all these psychodramas and shit. I like having principles. The golden rule and all that. Treat others the way you want to be treated.Bruh, this shit predates millennials and zoomers.
>>796562Women have the same experiences hanging out with male partners of their fellow female friends
>>796567Women encounter the same thing
ABOLISH SEX
So is prostitution good or bad?
>>797089Good and empowering when women sell it, but creepy and exploitative when men buy it. That also applies to all sex between men and women even when money is not involved.
>>795836>Would you want a thirty year old single mom?Why would any man want to be with a woman who wants to them to help raise chads offspring?
>How about a thirty year old female NEET?I think any thirty year old male NEET would be happy to have a thirty year old female NEET, the problem is that thirty year old female NEET wants to be with Chad or is already with Chad
>Brother you're having a menstrual episode. Accusing me of social fascism. Notice how your immediate response to a man expressing his reasonable feelings is rank misogyny? I suppose it’s true what they say about the patriarchy hurting men as well.
>Any sane woman hears you talking like this they'd run for the hills.you’re using the idea of women reactions as a weapon to shut him down
>what if a woman heard you talking about how women don’t like you because they are hypergamous that woman probably wouldn’t like you!Dude! He’s an incel! Women already don’t like him! This attempt at shaming him won’t work
>>797097Does that include grannies?
>>797163stop being an incel and have sex, sweaty
what are the ethics of manipulating/tricking women into having sex with you?
>>797372Don't get caught.
>>797341Nta. But will you fug me?
>>797472Just lie about your height. Remember all's fair in love and war.
>>797475that works if you're 5'11 and lie about being 6'0 but what if you're 5'7? your profile will only be shown to TEN PERCENT of women before any other filters, holy fuck.
and as discussed previously in this thread only 5% of men are even 6'0 or above. this shit is absolutely blackpilling.
>>797477That’s not blackpill that’s redpill
Blackpill deals with real distressing shit, not this asinine dating app bullshit
>>797487companionship and romantic fulfillment are human rights. any other take is anti-marxist. you can call it "asinine" all you want but for some people it matters a lot that they are alone. have some empathy you asshole.
>>797475That. But also is it just me or is basically every American woman on the dating market completely toxic?
>>797492being real single women are 9 times out of 10 more toxic than single men and that's why they're still single. being a single man generally just means you're poor or short. i have not noticed any personality difference between single and married men in terms of "quality". but single women past a certain age are like, almost universally toxic and only ended up that way by repelling every man in their life.
also i think it's kinda funny the marxist website that promotes gender equality is saying the solution to male loneliness is just lying about having traits you don't have so women don't instantly reject you, and somehow this isn't a problem lol.
>>797491You are the one making a big deal about alleged algorithmic outcomes on dating app as and treating it as a catastrophe on par with dwindling job prospects for college graduates and global warming.
You need to have empathy
You’re shitting up the board with your obnoxious midlife crisis wow over not having the idyllic teenage romance.
>>797491Theories friendship and family.
Those are far more essential and are often under appreciated compared to sex and romance
>>797495>You are the one making a big deal about alleged algorithmic outcomes on dating app as and treating it as a catastrophe on par with dwindling job prospects for college graduates and global warming.anon you know like 50% of relationships in 2026 are started on dating sites? if only 10% of people on dating sites are open to dating a man under 6'0 that is fucking INSANE sexual prejudice. it effectively takes romantic agency out of the hands of human personality/compatibility and puts it entirely on genetics.
>>797496i dont know why this gets repeated so many times when you need all 3 to be fulfilled. none are more important than the others. romantic fulfillment is just as important for a person's happiness as a loving family. think about how crazy it is that so many people will never get that and compare it to all the victims of family abuse to put it in perspective. everyone should want the world to be a better more equitable place.
>>797498>if only 10% of people on dating sites are open to dating a man under 6'0 that is fucking INSANE sexual prejudice. it effectively takes romantic agency out of the hands of human personality/compatibility and puts it entirely on genetics.Do you have any proof of this or are you just assuming this based on crack theories?
>>797499
>none are more important than the othersThen why are you not crying about people who grow up in dysfunctional m/estranged families or have no friends?
>>797503>Then why are you not crying about people who grow up in dysfunctional m/estranged families or have no friends?because this is the sex and relationships thread? do you think these issues are somehow ignored by society or something? people talk about the problems of broken families all the time. being raised by a single mother raises a child's chance of going to prison by like 90%. not having friends is just as alienating as not having a romantic partner. these are not controversial opinions. it's only when we try to talk about sex does the entire internet-left seemingly turn their brains off and spam "YOU AREN'T ENTITLED TO LOVE INCEL STOP BEING A MANLET LOL"
>>797504You keep shitting up the board with posts or threads about how you’re lonely and horny
If it was just this thread that’s one thing.
But you keep on going, dismissing other problems as diversions
I mean this sincerely when I tell you to buy a sex doll or get a rich granny or something
>>797514i shit up the board because it's still a valid issue and i want to discuss it and talk about solutions but the jannies deleted my good-faith thread probably because the sex and relationship thread is supposed to be a containment zone for "incel posting" or something.
nowhere did I ever indicate that we shouldn't discuss family and friendship needs too. but your argument kind of just sounds like MRA's talking about "men's rights" only when a woman gets murdered in the news. it's disingenuous. you don't actually care about friendships or families you just want to stop discussion of male loneliness entirely.
>>797514What about a poor granny? They're probably more likely to be lonely.
>>797341Alr, let’s have sex.
>>797532Not exactly true.
It’s not that men are no longer needed, it’s that men are reduced to being as valued as servant-warrior-jesters for female amusement.
That’s the problem
>>797516>it's disingenuous. you don't actually care about friendships or families you just want to stop discussion of male loneliness entirely.I actually do care about friendship and family. You’re the one who dismisses it as secondary to romance and sex.
Also, male loneliness is due to men being reduced to being warrior-butlers for women.
In fact, if society were to stop comically abusing single men in pop culture, academia, employment, and healthcare, we would see a major drop in male loneliness.
Also, there’s something called female loneliness which is a topic that you continually dismiss.
>>797516>it's disingenuous. you don't actually care about friendships or families you just want to stop discussion of male loneliness entirely.Translation: “How dare you dismiss my whiny ass immature grievances. You’re a stinky pop-poo head!”
8kun.top/doomer
leftychan.net/R9K
Try those boards instead
>>797539what makes my grievances immature exactly?
>>797538>Also, there’s something called female loneliness which is a topic that you continually dismiss.because it functionally doesn't exist. when women call themselves "lonely" what they mean is no one matches up to their unreasonably high standards, or in the case of hags they outlived their sexual utility and are now sad that chad doesn't want them anymore but still won't settle for anything less. trust me I've befriended enough self-proclaimed femcels to know how it works.
I'm not saying this to be dismissive of women's grievances or act like there aren't genuinely sexually/romantically frustrated women out there. I'm sure there are, and I empathize with them. But statistically they have much greater odds of finding love than a lonely male. In fact if they had any empathy for lonely males their problem would likely be solved because there's such a surplus of lonely males that they could probably take their pick of the litter.
i think if women just showed more empathy towards men in general it would help their own loneliness as well. maybe the lonely guy you branded an incel is actually dateable and would make a good life partner if you just tried to be nice to him. I really can't see why we need to make women's issues the only issues worth discussing. men have feelings too man.
>>797498Thats because dating apps start more relationships by its nature, but these relationships are often weaker then meeting irl.
You can easly meet someone due to a dating app, have a two week relationship, and eventually end it because you have nothing in common. (This even the intended model of dating apps)
>>797564I don't think that accounts for every relationship on dating apps since even a large amount of marriages are started on dating apps.
It would be interesting if there was a study of "marriage longevity" between dating apps and irl to compare. I'd be inclined to agree with you that dating apps create lower quality relationships. But at the same time if you're into niche things sometimes its actually hopeless trying to find someone irl. Like even if you're a weeaboo it's hopeless unless you live in a big city, and that's a very mainstream hobby. Imagine being into amateur radio or something. One of my close friends is a professional artist and even she has trouble finding people just to be her friend in her local art scene because everything is online these days.
>>797163Is anyone gonna respond to this orrrrrrr?
>>797576are you a cute girl? i only respond to cute girls sorry.
>>797547Just because some random loser is desperate enough to fuck you doesn't make you less lonely, most male incels could get sex with gay men, but they won't because thats obviously not what they want. Having sex with someone doesn't guarentee a relationship afterwards.
>>797587are you seriously comparing heterosexual sex with someone you're not attracted to with gay sex?
you're aware that sexual and romantic attraction can develop over time while sexuality itself is generally static, right?
>>797599In both case you don't want to do it, it's insane to say that someone isn't lonely because creeps want to fuck her. Thats not what being lonely means.
>>797600why do you assume someone is a creep just for wanting to fuck her tho? or why does she assume that in this hypothetical, i guess?
like if a girl showed romantic interest in me i wouldn't automatically assume she's a bad person. but your hypothetical femcel is simultaneously "lonely" and unwelcoming to men who are interested in her?
>>797604My point is that just because some people want to sleep with you, they don't necessarly want to build an actual relationship with you, in that case it's loneliness as well. I'm not arguing that attraction to a woman makes you a creep.
>>797472Women engage with dating apps and social media like men do with gacha: pull new and interesting things out of thin air, get a dopamine hit, do it again. It's a skewed dynamic that takes all power out of your hands. There is nothing you can do about it except just stop using those things. Dating apps already see a huge downturn because women don't like it either.
In general, dating is just not something you can actively pursue as a man because it puts you in a pathetic position of zero leverage. You can just act like a normal person, be in social situations and some girl will probably get the wires crossed in her head, then you are at least given a modicum of respect if not power. But even then, those wires can get uncrossed for completely arbitrary reasons. It is what it is.
We only ever got the idea that anything is a human right because production became so strong and reliable. There is no production of feelings, so you just can't say that companionship is a right because there is no mechanism to ensure that.
>>797578I’m a 60 year old Dominican man
>>797581You’re not me
>>797587>most male incels could get sex with gay menWhat makes you think that?
>>797620Some gay men out there willing to sleep with anybody
>>797621you know if you just frame every question of male loneliness as "just fuck gay men" you're basically encouraging bigotry against gay men because people are tired of hearing about how horny you all are. like dude the discussion has nothing to do with gay men why even insert them into the conversation? we know gay men are having plenty of sex and there is no such thing as a gay incel. if we could be gay probably 100% of men would choose to be gay. it still contributes nothing to the convo tbh.
>>797621I don’t really know how true that is but alr
>>797623>and there is no such thing as a gay incel.But I think there actually are gay incels
Why do so many men turn on their beliefs for pussy?
>>797624>But I think there actually are gay incelsare there? I'm not really active in the gay community but there's entire gay fetishes dedicated to ugly obese bears and stinky neets and such that you can easily find on grindr just using the basic search terms. you'd have to be REALLY toxic to be a gay incel. my gay friends who are uglier and fatter than me seemingly never lack a boyfriend or fwb.
>>797623You say that while framing every question of female loneliness as "just fuck incels"
>>797647incel is but an elastic word, and it can really mean anything, but we generally like to think of it as absolute losers, ugly scum who are bitter and hate women because of their uglines.
maybe the anon meant something alongside just look into the average man, the average man isn't an incel, don't put down a guy because some random quirk he did icked you off or he doesn't look exactly like a fantasy, looks plain…because that is starting to sound to me everytime somone brings up male lonliness and their first horror is having to give sex to the ugly bitter fucks…anon means women can have options, it only depends on how much these options apply in their eyes.
seriously everytime we speak of male lonliness or female lonliness, averting from the "incels" is like the top priority…as if a handsom incel doesnt exist..does incel even mean sexless or that caricature in our mind? is incel really just an isult to looks or an insult to behavior? its starting to sound like anything unappealing…a guy can literally be the anti-mgtow and still have no one into him, hense incel.
>>797652Look at where the conversation started, the guy was claiming that women can't be lonely because they could sleep with incels. It's simply a dishonest way of viewing things, most men aren't willing to sleep with random women and also have standards, and those who don't are obviously not good for a long term relationship.
I don't think either male or female incels really exist on a large scale, (maybe in India and China due to the millions of surplus men), most people could have a relationship eventually but you have people who for a variety of reasons are lonely and can't find romantic love, some are bitter about it, some are depressed, some hate themselves. Just telling women that they have too high standards to fuck some random guy isn't exacly helping anyone, just like telling some lonely man that he could just be gay.
>>797653>Just telling women that they have too high standards to fuck some random guy isn't exacly helping anyone, just like telling some lonely man that he could just be gay.you know what you're not half wrong, its just because of how most incels seem to start, atleast the male part, by initiating and being undesirable, literally how most "incels" seem to start, just not being enough for somone to consider you
the only way i can see a woman turning into a femcel despite being the gender that gets approached, is if they're invisible, or extremely choosy to the point zero measure up, or maybe the men around her legit aren't for the relationships…of course there's more incels than femcels, harder to be the latter unless conditions are that bad!.
im gonna sound like a crack smoker but most men think having sex first means she's geniunly into you and a full long relationship can go from there. when i used to speak to class boys back then the relationship "process" always was like this to them, meeting, few dates, phone exchange, having sex, cuddling, tattoos on each other's arms and now you're in a relationship.
>>797494>solution to male loneliness is just lying about having traits you don't have so women don't instantly reject you, and somehow this isn't a problem lolBro. Ofc it isnt. Im single and have been for sometime, but I can get laid still. The odds are so insanely stacked against guys like me white lies comparatively I think are totally fine.
>>797652>the average man isn't an incel…I'm not so sure anymore and it appears that if it isn't true now, it is going to be.
>>797599There is literally no difference, in both cases you are dealing with someone you are not attracted to. Femcel could fuck a disgusting hairy moid, and so could an incel. Either both are valid or neither is.
>>797681Are femcels invalid because a lesbian would fuck them?
>>797653>Rates of sexlessness are climbing from coast to coast among adults ages 22 to 34, statistics plucked from the newly unsheathed National Survey of Family Growth showed — with 10% of young males 7% of their female counterparts saying they’re still virgins
>Researchers conducted face-to-face interviews with American men and women ages 15-49, collecting data on everything from bedroom behavior to reproductive health habits.
>A whopping 24% of males 22-34 had not had sex in 2022-2023 — up from 9% in 2013-15. For females, the number was 13% up from 8%
>when asked if they’d had sex in the last three months, 35% of men said no — another big jump from 20%. Women didn’t fare much better, with 31% concurring this time around, up from 21%.nypost.com/2025/01/23/lifestyle/sexlessness-on-the-rise-in-america-young-men-lead-the-trend/
So clearly hypergamy is true to some extent since more women are having sex than men that means some men are having heaps of sex and others none at all.
It’s also probably worse since these self reported numbers with some of them being done face to face sex for women is seen as shameful encouraging them to lie about having less sex while for men not having sex is shameful encouraging them to lie about having more sex
>>797587>Just because some random loser is desperate enough to fuck you doesn't make you less lonely, most male incels could get sex with gay men, but they won't because thats obviously not what they want. Having sex with someone doesn't guarentee a relationship afterwards.The difference is that sexuality is something your born with you can’t just decide to be attracted to a certain gender wear-as women can decide to settle for average men
>>797685Hypergamy can explain part of it, but women are more social on average, they've got more opportunities
But the difference is quite minor on the shorter term. And is increasing on both sexes.
>>797686Women already do this, incels aren't the average men
>>797683No, and also why would you assume women who are into women have lower standards than men? I would be willing to bet lesbians are more likely to end up femcels than hetero women.
>>797693Lesbian women often say the same things if they are expected to be the "man" in a relationship.
>>797690>Women already do this, incels aren't the average menNo they don’t otherwise men and women would be having the same amount of sex
>>797705Thats pretty much the case
>>797690>Hypergamy can explain part of it, but women are more social on average, they've got more opportunitiesRight but there’s clearly a small pool of men who are having sex with a large group of women otherwise who are the women being social with?
It seems you’ll do anything but accept incels, but incels aren’t inherently misogynistic the ONLY thing that defines an incel is being literally INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE
>>797707Wait are you same user who I replied to before?
>>797707An 11% difference is pretty big especially considering these are reported numbers that don’t take into account women’s tendency to undercount there sexual activity due to social stigma and men’s tendency to overcount their sexual activity due to social stigma
>>797661>im gonna sound like a crack smoker but most men think having sex first means she's geniunly into you and a full long relationship can go from there. when i used to speak to class boys back then the relationship "process" always was like this to them, meeting, few dates, phone exchange, having sex, cuddling, tattoos on each other's arms and now you're in a relationship.Not true.
Most men think sex after a few dates means a long lasting relationship
>>797626Those spaces you mentioned are outliers
Most gay men aren’t as sexually actively as you think.
>>797623You say shit like this while whining about being horny and loveless from kissy deprivation
Why do cishet incels always wanna get pissy about gay men
>>797722Men know that woman who put out sex on the first date are just there for a good time not along time, which is fine for them
The problem is when the courting phase ends wihh the no coochie or declaration of love
>>797766Probably the second one. I'm assuming what you're saying about missing out on teenage love is no one showing you any romantic attention. I think with the second one you could at least have some kind of "relief" by knowing you never had a chance as as opposed to just fumbling it. It might be easier to focus on other things if you never get attention. But I think it's all bad but in somewhat different ways.
i wonder if leftists ever notice their own cognitive dissonance when discussing capitalist dating culture.
>everything is fine, don't look at statistics
>women are just as lonely as men, DON'T LOOK AT STATISTICS
>being sexless makes you a bad person, a woman choosing to date you would be equivalent to becoming homosexual
>oh did I mention you can just choose to become homosexual to solve your loneliness???
>dating apps aren't reflective of real life, sure 95% of women will reject you on tinder for being 5'11 instead of 6'0, but in real life they can't tell so its actually not a big deal!
>just lie about your height, why aren't you pretending to be in the top 5%? honesty is stupid
>hypergamy is good actually because only chad deserves to breed, if you can't it means you aren't good enough
>what does chad mean? 6'0+, 6 figure income, and white. the ideal man of course
it just feels very dishonest if we're to sit here and pretend this is how marxists should react to reproductive injustice. this is straight up eugenics lol.
>>797766People need to stop blaming their younger selves for missing out on uncertain/unstable prospects
So what if you missed out on the opportunity because you didn’t get any hints?
>>797771Please go to 8kun.top/doomer or Leftychan’s R9K board please.
Your midlife crisis hysteria is getting really annoying
>>797774>Your midlife crisis hysteria is getting really annoyingwhy are you in the sex and relationships thread on siberia if you cant handle people complaining about sex and relationships?
Little PSA:
If you’re under forty, any and all advice about “being yourself” and “don’t care about what others think of you” is paradoxical, because young people, especially young men are penalized for being themselves.
And not caring about about your public image can cost you.
The only way to survive is to be worldly and skilled in some technical labor.
Also remember, society does not respect male innocence.
Male innocence is looked down upon even more than deviousness
>>797802Because you’re taking up space with all your complaints.
Let other people vent for Christs sake
>>797821Says the guy who's the most frequent poster here.
>>797821space on an imageboard is not a limited resource. i'm not spamming either, i'm giving high quality replies and engaging in normal discussion as should be expected but you just don't like it for whatever reason. you're hysterical.
>>797826You forget that RAM is a thing
Also you’re spamming your TFW no gf story dozen times per day
The reason why relationships go south quickly is because people are too focused on the courting phase
>>797771Idk why incels get so angry about hypergamy.
If hottest women around were showing interest in you, you wouldnt bother with uggos either. Complain to chad for stealing your looksmatch.
>>797858Inceldom is really just tall poppy syndrome
I'm unironically having sex dreams about my ACP comrade. What do I do?
>>797858Notice how there is no "incel problem" in Rojava or Cuba?
>>797709>It seems you’ll do anything but accept incels, but incels aren’t inherently misogynistic the ONLY thing that defines an incel is being literally INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATEWell the problem is that communities that describe themselves as incel are as a rule extremely misogynist. So the conversation gets muddied because people use the word to describe both specifically members of these communities and involuntary celibate men in general.
>>797709The thing is small pool of men is having lots of sex with small pool of women. Most people of either gender have only handful of sexual partners in their lifetime. The whole idea of great female promiscuity is a result of projection of men's sexual insecurity, stemming out of the fact that women are the bottleneck, they have as much sex with as many partners as they wish (which is a little), while men wish to have more sex with more partners but arent able to.
>>797868No. Interestingly a trans woman.
>>797858Tbh they do this against whoever they think is a "Chad", I've met a weirdly aggravated short guy who hated me in very weird sexual ways, saying shit about how I constantly wanted to fuck or whatever because I'm tall and skinny, I've rarely been hit on by women and all my relationship have ended in failure basically as they started. But some people would rather hate on then think about themselves I guess.
>>797863
Men used to have mistresses to make bastard children that weren’t found out about for years.
Infidelity is declined a lot.
>>797858Incels do complain about chad a lot.
In a lot of male oriented media, they always make the chads the covert bad guys
>>797869> women are the bottleneck, they have as much sex with as many partners as they wish (which is a little), while men wish to have more sex with more partners but arent able to.This. Women don’t actively seek out alot of sex partners.
They tend to stick a small group.
>>797858The same reason why a lot of older women get upset about not being seen as attractive anymore
Or the same reason why a lot of Beckies hate on Stacies
>>797872>I've met a weirdly aggravated short guy who hated me in very weird sexual waysHad a similar experience. A guy told me that being tall was "like big boobs for men" The dude's real problems were that he was fat, alcoholic, misogynistic, and worst of all an architect.
>>797992>and worst of all an architect.What’s so bad about being an architect?
>>797994Modern architecture is so ugly, this is a reflection of the soul of the architects
>>797995Define modern
The Eiffel Tower was dismissed as ugly when it was first built
>>797995midwit reddit opinion
>>798004I mean shit like Dubai.
>>798008It's ugly, boring and made on the deaths of thousands of slaves
>>797992I think being an alcoholic is the worst trait.
Alcohol is the only drug in the world that’s excused. The only drug that’s allowed to be consumed at community picnics in front of children. The only drug where it’s addicts are allowed to be offered a sample for “good behavior” in recovery.
The only drug that despite being responsible for the average incident of drug induced misbehavior, isn’t called for tighter regulations
The only drug where even religious communities dismiss it as some cute feisty vice that doesn’t need much mention.
People get more upset about marijuana than alcohol.
>>798011So was most of ancient architecture, especially the seven wonders of the world
>>798013Wrong !
Thousands of slaves died, but at least it looked good
>>798012Society shows more concern over young men playing video games or watching porn than if they were drinking booze
Booze is considered a “proper adult” vice, despite having nasty consequences whereas video games and porn are more self contained in their vices
>>798015Are you that anon from moons ago that said you’d be ok with slavery as long they make good architecture?
And that you’d be a philosopher NEET?
>>798016Drunkards are treated worst then Gamers or porn addicts.
>>798017I'm not that guy. I'm not ok with slavery today, but I'm not going to cry over some that happened thousands of years ago.
>>798020>Drunkards are treated worst then Gamers or porn addicts. Really? People mock and pathologize video games and porn as arrested development
>>798032Because it is.
Now drunkards are treated as violent and dangerous idiots.
Go tell people you play video games, watch their reaction.
Now go tell them you're a drunkard and addicted to alcohol
now watch their reaction.
>>798033How are those supposed to be equivalent unless you say you're addicted to video games
>>798049even then, video games addicts are called losers, drunkards are seen as violent brutes who piss in the street
>>798033How are video games and porn immature compared to alcohol?
By mere aesthetic impression from paternalistic outsiders then yea.
But drunks are still respected as adults even if they piss on themselves and beat their wives and kids.
Video games and porn are far more ethical compared to alcohol.
Especially since alcohol is so normalised that it’s socialised
>>798051Pop culture and religion shows more sympathy to drunks. Too much sympathy in fact.
>>798057It's all immaturity and getting an addiction to get over one's issues in life. I don't think drunkeness ismore mature, but it does arrive to adults more often.
>>798058They really don't, when is the last time someone was shamed for playing video games ? Of the religions being tolerent to drunk, I can only think of catholicism. Islam is very famously opposed to it, and so is protestantism.
>>798062>They really don't, when is the last time someone was shamed for playing video games ? They do, whenever they talk about moral decay of society, they always list video games as a leading factor.
Boomers and women often list video games as a “flaw” they don’t like in young men
It’s viewed as some juvenile phase to be “grown out of”.
>Of the religions being tolerent to drunk, I can only think of catholicism. Islam is very famously opposed to it, and so is protestantismPerformative morality.
>It's all immaturity and getting an addiction to get over one's issues in life. “Maturity” seems to be more about “playing it cool” far too often. God forbid you show any emotion or need to have a little vice to get by.
>I don't think drunkeness ismore mature, but it does arrive to adults more oftenBecause alcohol is a socialized drug compared to other drugs. It’s often used as a “rite of passage” vice.
>>798062>It's all immaturity and getting an addiction to get over one's issues in lifeThat is more applicable to religiopolitical beliefs and it’s activism
There’s nothing wrong with hooker sex
>>798117I would agree in theory. But in practice it seems just as bad as sex with a non-prostitute. I guess it's a matter of learning from your errors and moving on. Or just never starting to begin with.
>>797869>Well the problem is that communities that describe themselves as incel are as a rule extremely misogynist. So the conversation gets muddied because people use the word to describe both specifically members of these communities and involuntary celibate men in general. That’s fair but I’m one for readopting the original usage since we can easily refer to misogynistic men as misogynistic men but we don’t real have such a well known word for people who want to have sex but can’t
>>797869>The thing is small pool of men is having lots of sex with small pool of women>The whole idea of great female promiscuity is a result of projection of men's sexual insecurityI literally posted evidence that it is real???
>>797897>Women don’t actively seek out alot of sex partners.They tend to stick a small group.
But the point is a small group of men are hogging all the women and the article I linked provided evidence for that.
>>797894Uyghur back in the Roman Empire days it was legal for people who had been cheated on to kill their partner who cheated. You seriously want to argue that infidelity is punished more in the 21st century?
>>798152People are probably just having less sex nowadays plus those punishments were mainly on women or low status men. And they still didn't work I imagine. I think pleasure and procreation will trump any morals anyways.
>>798135That's not exactly true
>>798117Even sex with hookers is looked upon more favorably than porn
>>798152>You seriously want to argue that infidelity is punished more in the 21st century?Yea, because you're found out alot faster. And your texts will be posted on social media.
>>798152>>798209In patriarchal societies women's infidelity is harshly punnished while men's is considered normal behaviour.
>>798285In fact men are somewhat expected to be promiscuous and be players, even by women. Otherwise many may actually lose interest in you if they had any to begin with.
>>798285Not exactly. Men aren’t punished as badly as women but they’re held in contempt for cheating on their wives, especially lower class men.
>>798290That’s only positively applied to high status men. Average men or subpar men are looked down upon for expressing sexual/romantic drives
Hypergamy is the most evil thing a woman can do.
>>798363Then you admit that men are also complicit.
If it were men hogging women, you’d be complaining about Chads.
Wait never mind you’d still blame women.
<hurr im hag lover because i fapmax at anime girls who look 30 but are secretly 50 years old!!
Literally FWB with a woman 8 years older. We are not the same.
Incel problem would be solved if only society would let them neet in peace. They will never know physical affection or love, so its only fair they get to play video games and watch anime to their hearts contend.
>>798203How did you interpret the article?
>>798367>Then you admit that men are also complicit. If it were men hogging women, you’d be complaining about Chads. Wait never mind you’d still blame women.No lol chads choosing have sex with women doesn’t stop other men from having sex with women choosing only to have sex with chads is the problem, you realise it’s possible for women to have sex with more than one man?
>>798363Idk, I think the female concentration camp guards were worse
>>798522You fucked your boss ?
>>798464> women choosing only to have sex with chads is the problem, you realise it’s possible for women to have sex with more than one man?Women already do this and you accuse them of being whores
Just admit that you lost our big time and you’re using chads as an excuse
>>798436This. Most MILF fetishizers often only look at the glamorized personas of tricenarian women using special effects to make themselves look “aged gracefully”
>>798020> I'm not that guy. I'm not ok with slavery today, but I'm not going to cry over some that happened thousands of years ago.This kind of cognitive dissonance is what leads to reactionary sympathizers
Glorifying the past due to outlier nuggets of good arts and craft
>>798522i think you are technically a prostitute now.
GO FORTH SEX WORKER, UNIONIZE THE COCKSUCKERS AND PUSSY LICKERS!
>>798578These civilisations were great, how can you look at the pyramids and not be impressed ?
>>798707>how can you look at the pyramids and not be impressed ?Its literally a pile of rocks. The least impressive architectural feat there is.
>>798707The pyramids are alright. I’m more interested in natural wonders.
Also those civilizations were built on the backs of slaves who enjoyed a small inkling of the fruits of their labor
>>798363No. Being a liberal is worse
>>798707The pyramids are glorified royal tombs
>>798777>men are created to be womens butlers >>798791
Cause they can't get with those men, and half of half of them are probably gay
>>798793I am a fat overweight gamer who is addicted to weed and pornography. I'm exacly the profile women want.
>>798792a.) women can get them for casual sex
b.) women are already settling for betabux when men they actually desire fail to commit to a relationship
>>798793I don't complain, though. I mean I complain about a general lack of affection and sex, sure, but I know the score. It's just the nature of competition, I guess. I don't measure up. However, something that I don't think a lot of women understand is that sexual starvation physically hurts. It does psychic damage to one's person that can manifest physically. It's not fun, and the starvation analogy is quite apt because it can feel like actual starvation. It's not fun and I think, if nothing else, women could stand to be a bit more sympathetic.
Also, the vast majority of men do not embody that aesthetic so have fun fighting tooth and nail to get your hands on one and hope he never cheats on you despite the metric assloads of pussy that get thrown at him on a regular basis.
>>798793The real question is why any of these men should settle for just one woman? Or also why go for women to begin with that look you could get any man and not have to worry over things like child support. Two dudes can even wear the same clothes thus spending less on their wardrobe.
>>798796>hope he never cheats on you despite the metric assloads of pussy that get thrown at him on a regular basisFaithfulness of someone who has no option to cheat is worthless.
>>798793Fuck those bitches. I wish I was a sexy R&B musician so I could make those guys swoon.
>>798796> However, something that I don't think a lot of women understand is that sexual starvation physically hurts. It does psychic damage to one's person that can manifest physically. It's not fun, and the starvation analogy is quite apt because it can feel like actual starvation. It's not fun and I think, if nothing else, women could stand to be a bit more sympatheticSo you understand this is the prime cause of “teen angst”
> Also, the vast majority of men do not embody that aesthetic so have fun fighting tooth and nail to get your hands on one and hope he never cheats on you despite the metric assloads of pussy that get thrown at him on a regular basisMen fight tooth and nail over hot girls. The majority of women aren’t all that hot or glamorous either but men are more flexible in their sexual attraction.
>>798798I beg to differ. If someone has no option to cheat it makes them more appreciable in the eyes of their mate.
>>798793and just like that, you proved clav's point. its all looks, who cares if you're kind or mean commie nazi, you just need to appeal to shallow women that preach about confidence and personality
don't work on anything ever just be attractive, smash your face if possible.
>>798826Attractiveness is a spectrum. A 10/10 supermodel is desirable no matter what their personality, but if you are merely normal hot, lack of confidence or boring personality is going to tank your chances with women.
>>798575>Women already do this and you accuse them of being whoresWomen already have sex with all men? Then why are there so many incels.
>Just admit that you lost our big time and you’re using chads as an excuseI know I lost out big time that’s the whole point, and I’m not using chads as an excuse I don’t care if women have sex with chads, I’m mad they don’t also have sex with me.
It seems the number one reason for hating incels is not knowing what they are or what they think 😭😂🤦♂️
>>798825No, I think teen angst stems from attempts at adhering to what one's peer group considers to be acceptable. For instance, while it is true that men are very flexible in their sexual attraction, I would wager that it's also true that most men simply want to find one person with whom they can settle down, or at least with whom they can establish a long term and meaningful relationship. This is contrary to the popular sentiment that all men are hypersexual conquistadors who are beholden to some innate desire for sexual imperialism aka being a mack daddy, a playa, spreading their wild oats, or whatever it is that the kids call it these days.
Basically, concerns regarding one's own sexual ability are relative to that of someone else, who is perceived as more desirable to the objects of his own desire. Sexual identity and the expression thereof is socialized, is what I'm getting at here.
>>798925Fair point. I think it’s more that you’re denied any self worth as an individual.
People often like to complain about individualism but from what I see, individualism is not as practiced nor advertised as you’d think.
If society was truly individualistic, single men wouldn’t feel so left out
Also, yes I agree that makes sexuality, especially male youth sexuality, is highly exaggerated by pop culture.
Men are treated as jesters and warriors but never as objects of beauty.
They’re not allowed to seek beauty, physical or abstract from within.
A lot of masculine syllabi often overpromote conflict and heroism as the base of manhood
Yet, conflict is so commonplace and rarely ends well.
Heroism is also a thing that women exhibit as well and they’re celebrated for it far more than men are.
So, where does that leave men?
>>798922>It seems the number one reason for hating incels is not knowing what they are or what they think Maybe it’s better to read this post:
https://leftychan.net/b/res/158735.html#158735 >>798934I can't claim to have all the answers, but consider the 草食男子 or "herbivore boys" of Japan. The name implies a lack of consumption or desire for meat products, with meat alluding to pussy and/or sexual relations in this analogy. They seem to be an offshoot of incels who have just decided to opt out of dating all together and "go their own way" by deciding to focus their energies on non-sexual pursuits. I don't see why Western men can't also do the same, except for the sort of social pressure that exists to conform to Western societal norms, but if you're an incel you're already failing to conform to those norms, so what difference does it make at this point? I think if incels drop the animosity and resentment for women, they'd be better off for it (see wizardchan).
Of course, in Japan, prostitution is much more commonplace than in the USA for example, with as many as 50% of young Japanese men regularly utilizing the services of prostitutes, so that perhaps provides a salve for their woes that may not be as readily available to Western men, at least not without some amount of risk to one's person, as we all know that prostitution is illegal in most Western countries.
>>798941>I don't see why Western men can't also do the sameThat is what most involunary celibate men are like. They are not posting mysoginist manifestos on incel forums, they are normal men with more-or-less normal lives, but permanently single.
>>798788What about civilizations that built pillars aligned to the seasonal changes of the position of the sun to act as a calendar
>>798941>but if you're an incel you're already failing to conform to those norms, so what difference does it make at this point? I think if incels drop the animosity and resentment for women, they'd be better off for it (see wizardchan). Most incels aren’t angry at women though
They don’t even go along with culture war labels anyway
>>799042This:
https://leftychan.net/b/res/158735.html#158735 Romantic love isn't real, it is just a nice fantasy. It's all lust and familiarity in real life, its way too conditional to be "love". Platonic love does exist however, since it isn't complicated from sexual feelings, honest, and actually unconditional.
>>799062Fraternal love is real you mean
Also yea romantic love is kinda a fantasy.
We do dismiss teen romance as “hormones” but never do the same for adults, despite it going the same way
>>799074Be crazy and desperate for attention. Also I think he smoked meth or did other drugs.
>>799150The angel has no chance. It's a complete devil victory. Not even close.
I tried breaking up with my gf but now I think I really broke her, like spiritually. She was a walking shell until sunday where she really broke down and started kissing me uncontrollably and then asked me to do literally whatever I want with her. This isn't humblebrag, this some obsession type shit
>>799225did you fugg her?
>>799225This is a humblebrag even if you don't intend it to be. Go back to, uh, where are chads supposed to talk between each other on the internet?
I gave a bitch some money and she posted the receipt in her story with my full name in it. I swear to god women piss me off so much what the fuck
>>799245
What did she say and why did you give her money?
It happens bro. Actually happened to me multiple times some dumb bitch posting about me online trying to make fun of me. This was way before the current era of Tik Toks and TeaApps and stuff. Honestly one of the biggest reasons I'm hesitant to date. Too many women like that and worse still is nobody even thinks they're wrong for kissing and telling and putting you on blast publicly.
>>799250>What did she saySome shit in her native language I didn't bother to translate because I'm pissed. I take my online privacy seriously and have barely any social media. Just a locked down Facebook I post on a few times a year and occasional dating profiles. Whenever I post pictures with other people in them, I censor them. I'm so fucking pissed she would post that shit without any permission.
>why did you give her money?She lost her job and is a hooker I used to fuck (and plan on fucking again soon). I wouldn't even mind if she made a story about the money itself, but like why the fuck would she drop my name and nationality in the story? Sending the money was already a humiliation ritual in itself, but then you go out of your way to drop my government name. I can't lmao.
Her response was that no one on her social media knows me. But I know for a fact she has other guys of the same nationality on her social media, and it is very likely we run in the same circles when considering that we're of the same nationality and mongering in the same small country. Like jfc.
>>799260Sounds like she's trying to claim you publicly. I've seen that shit before. I was hanging out with these meth heads and one was this woman and in the short while I knew these people she started hanging on heavy to one of the guys in the group who was a dealer and I saw she posted on facebook her posting:
"Loook *redacted* bought me food!"
She was like 19 or something and already had a kid and her parents or some other family was raising her girl. That dealer guy already had a couple kids to with his estranged baby mama he never saw. Lol they started kinda being on some Bonnie and Clyde type shit, at least that's what she wanted. I saw her posts on facebook where she was still pining after her baby daddy and crying about her "bully boy" lol. That drug dealer guy was another bully boy. I remember the first time I met him he was bragging about how he had basically just stole or coerced this watch off of one of his "friends." He just told the dude to give it to him and the guy did according to him.
>>799263Lol this chick was crazy too. She was a fucking scammer. She was doing fucking stealing credentials or whatever Western Union scam kind of shit off her johns or whatever. She was a thug ass bitch, I also saw her fucking beating on the pimp guy who was this little shrimpy dude who was the one that brought her into the group too.
>>799263>>799264>Sounds like she's trying to claim you publiclyThat's entirely possible lmao. The norm for hookers is to just vaguely reference their patron. Like give a public thank you and allude to gifts. But she literally posted a screenshot of the receipt with my name on it lmao.
>beating on the pimp guyNever fucking began. Even literal pimps in 2026 are simps.
>>799265>Never fucking began. Even literal pimps in 2026 are simps.Lol, yeah. This guy told me "anon, I used to be like you. I cared too much about women, now I just see them as friends I have sex with." Pimp with a heart of gold, hooker with a heart of gold, it's all just sad and lame. I think everyone just wants the normie lifestyle. Get a mate, get a family, etc. I think we're all just pushed into this bizarre pseudo bourgeois Epstein lifestyle or trying to live that.
>>799267Speaking of Epstein, did any of you see where he was chewing Bill Gates out for just pumping and dumping one of the girls he set him up with without giving her a severance package.
>Epstein with a heart of goldlol.
>>799229yeah
>>799237but i'm a nerd just like you!
>>799265>Never fucking began. Even literal pimps in 2026 are simps.Idk. Maybe some pimps were always simps. It's just that simp has been socially overexposed
>>799267>I think everyone just wants the normie lifestyle. Get a mate, get a family, etc. I think we're all just pushed into this bizarre pseudo bourgeois Epstein lifestyle or trying to live that.The irony is, most people are already living the normie lifestyle and some are tired of it and want the pseudo bourgeois life.
>>799265>>799264This is why the ghettofab lifestyle is pathetic. The badbitch persona that Nicki Minaj and Megan Thee stallion preach about are punk ass bitches that will tuck tail and run when faced with confrontation.
Bad bitches aren't badass, they're just toxic loudmouth wimps.
I find it funny that people will always like criticize male integrity of male delinquents while sympathizing female ones
>>799291I remember that ginger show.
But yea, this is why I think idealism is not such a good thing.
Idealism begets expectations
Expectations begets entitlement
Entitlement begets indignation
Indignation begets regression
Regression begets desperation
Desperation begets idealism
>>799306I don't know what kind of mental illness would cause someone to produce this video with their face and put it up for the 8 billion people of this world to view. Imagine being this person's son or daughter.
>>799311Bitch, I'm a star, got these uyghas wishin'
He say he hungry, this pussy the kitchen
Yeah, that's my dawg, he gon' sit down and listen
Call him a trick and he don't get off', hold up
Bitch, I'm a star, got these uyghas wishin'
He say he hungry, this pussy the kitchen
Yeah, that's my dawg, he gon' sit down and listen
Call him a trick and he don't get offended
He know he giving his money to Megan
He know it's very expensive to date me
Told him go put my name on that account
Because when I need money, I ain't tryna, hold up
He know he giving his money to Megan
He know it's very expensive to date me
Told him go put my name on that account
Because when I need money, I ain't tryna wait
I don't be stressin' 'bout none of these uyghas
When they be talkin', I don't even listen
Tellin' me secrets, I probably forget it
But I'ma tune in when he say he gon' lick it
He told 'em send me a pic 'cause he miss me
I told him send me a stack if he really
I don't be trusting these tricks 'cause they tricky
Send him a pic of somebody else titties
I'm a finesser and I'm a fly dresser
Move to the top floor and flew in my dresser
My bitches hustle, make money together
Your bitches birds and they flockin' together
I can't decide if I want the new Louis
Dapper Dan yellow, I'm always in Gucci
Your mama don't bring your dad to the mall
'Cause when he be in there she know he be choosin'
>>799283congrats on the sex
>>799306ask her to invite them over
I need a gangsta bitch
Give me a gangsta bitch
I wanna gangsta do it with my gangsta bitch
Give me a gangsta bitch
She G'd up, tell that bitch to call me
She like it rough I fuck that bitch the long way
All night, now I'm on her my all day
She mines now, for ever and for always
Lame uyghas, they belong with them lame hoes
Punk bitches, they belong with them punk dudes
Get yourself a bird, I got me a lioness
Pretty thug love, on that Clyde & Bonnie shit
Flyboy, me a rudeboy
Me a gunman, me a shoot boy
For mi rude gyal
Me a do a thousand years in the dungeon
I don't fuck around when it come to her
And she don't play when it come to me
Our love from the stars above
We infamous, this destiny
Bet it never be another two like
Me and baby the Clarence and Alabama type
If we die, we be in love on the other side
I be the bitch, she be the uygha in another life
God put us together, only God can stop us
We cut our palms, hold hands, now we blood partners
Sacrificial love, bitch I give my heart to you
Love me to pieces, I give every part to you
Handsome, gangster, look my face you got a dime
Gorgeous thug, just look her face and pretty eyes
Our little baby boy or girl gon' be trouble
And when we gone, they gon know their parents was some…
>>799306Why would I be mad?
I hope she won’t be mad at me for getting more hot sugar daddies than her
>>799316Those bulldyke gangster rappers are fake
>>799324Hip hop is mainly aesthetics to begin with.
All the philosophical babbling about it being “the voice of the people” is a joke.
No different from punk.
Yo.. aiyyo we leave uyghas with dry blood on they face
Put slugs where your bones at, break you off a taste
Shots of tequila, plenty Henny, we drinkin heavy
Smokin dust, Dunn I brought mez(?) tabs with me
And to my mamis on ecstasy
(C'mon) C'mon, we can bungee in the V.I.P
We turn bitches out, take turns in that bitch mouth
Carve uyghas up, show uyghas what it's all about
It's us, the best of Queens, handguns to minks
Top fashion, we flash and bang
uyghas think they Flash Gordon, we snatch the link
Cause we mafioso and you the average dick
Kid, we send messages through bottles
Crash your face with the Mo, have glass all in your nostrils
And run through y'all uyghas like the shits
Kick uyghas with the boots, dukes we get biz, youse a
>>799326>>799327whatever man, you like what you like, but to me this is some lame shit. I hear this shit and it's like… ok, so you're just self aggrandizing, like you're this hard motherfucker or whatever. ok, but at least show some appreciation to the "trade" by having some complex rhymes and flow, but you don't even do that. it's lame, and it just reminds me of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAemgduydTo>I ain't hardcore, I don't pack a 9 millimeter>most of y'all gangsta rappers ain't hardcore neither>whoever get mad I'm talking bout you>claim you fear no man but never walk with our crew>where I'm from your reputation don't mean jack>so what you pack gats and you sell fiends crack>you ain't big time my man, you ain't no different from the next cat in my neighborhood who did time>rhyme after rhyme it's the same topic, what make you think you hardcore cause you was raised in the procjets?etc.
>>799329I was personally and maybe and still personally involved with great backpack rappers. It's whatever. Nobody wants to hear it. >82 views 3 years ago
I don't think this level of doxxing mean anything, I guess you could contact him and tell him that some guy is posting about him on some loser website.
I dunno, gangbanging, degeneracy, all that is retarded, and actually Hip Hop, Rap and all that started as anti-degeneracy and pro-community and all that but the degenerate shit won out, it is what it is.
>>799331>I used to want to be 2pac>skinny lil dude in some tube sockshey I liked it.
>gangbanging, degeneracy, all that is retarded, and actually Hip Hop, Rap and all that started as anti-degeneracy and pro-community and all that but the degenerate shit won out, it is what it is.so it is.
Anyone here listen to romantic roleplay videos?
I'm gonna kill myself.
>>799314Genuinely lold anon.
>>799306She might have kissed more girls then her, but I kissed more women then she did !
>>798522Based and congrats anon. I love fucking on company time. One time I almost fucked in the office when I came after hours to steal snacks, wish I'd done it.
Humans can't get dogs pregnant right?
Anyone noticed how ethnic incel spaces bacame? There used to be time when userbase was filled with autistic nerds, now you go to incel forum and get hit by y'all and clips from 80IQ redpill podcasts.
>>799403even truecels are getting mogged by incelmaxxing sigmachads !
>>799400…Why are you even asking about this?
>>799403You don't seem like a very high-autism score individual yourself.
>>799431Yes, marvel capeshit etc is normie now, but true OG nerds are still distinguished by doing things like reading comics, YA slop fiction is normie but reading Heinlein is still nerdy, etc etc.
>>799434Last books I finished was the Three Body Problem trilogy. There's actually a pretty peak incel character in there. He buys a star for this woman who never noticed him then gets his brain put into a rocket and blasted on a rocket towards the aliens and she spends the rest of her life feeling guilty about it once she realizes lmao. Actually it kind of becomes the main plot in book 2 and 3.
>>799440Those books really felt weirdly misogynistic. I felt like the first one was the best and then it ran out of steam fast by the 2nd/3rd. Just overall seems reactionary TBH, I guess that's why it broke out in the west
>>799405I didn't mean for it to happen :\
>>799444I do honestly agree with the thesis that we should be trying to hide from other intelligent life. Don't get me wrong I would love to bed an alien space babe/dude but it's too big of a risk and pretty much every time a "more developed" society meets a "less developed" one, the less developed one gets raped. On the other hand, maybe we would be better off with an alien intelligence ruling us rather than the bourgeois who seem to be both malicious and incompetent
>>799444Also about the utopian future shit specifically, it comes off as completely incel yes but also reminds me of The Forever War by Joe Haldeman which was literally written in 1974, and had a dumb plot point where a soldier in a relativistic war comes back to Earth 100 so years after he left and the government has instituted mandatory homosexuality for population control and everyone is 'polynesian' in appearance, to the books mild credit I don't remember it exactly being like "gay people are evil" but just seemed deranged and incredibly boomerfied, it's one thing for that to happen 50 years ago but for a book 10 years old or whatever? Crazy. Sometimes it surprises me how 'backwards' in a lot of ways China is compared to the west, obviously our system is fucking garbage and theirs is probably better but there's these weird reactionary quirks like that they still do the "exotic black minstrel" shit in advertising sometimes, then again we only recently abolished that too so whatever (thank you CSA - the movie for your tireless struggle)
>>799449On second thought, the big racist ad I was thinking of was from 2016 so maybe we're not so different. I've heard the Chinese internet is crazy racist but obviously you can say that about large parts of the western internet too I guess.
Everyone should still watch CSA though, class flick
>>799450Of course it's possible that we or aliens would act in an 'enlightened' way towards a less developed alien race but seems like much too big of a risk don't you think? It's not a given that species become more empathetic as they develop especially when dealing with a totally non-human intelligence, and besides, the Sentinelese have nothing that the rest of the world wants, if they were sitting on the world's only deposit of unobtanium you can get your ass that they'd be put in a reservation at best.
Also, humanity's record of interaction with non-human life remains abysmal, who is to say the aliens will even see us as 'people' who are worthy of some respect instead of pests?
I like the Law of One. Craziest fucking thing I ever read. They seem to really believe they're contacting and channeling the aliens. They've been channeling the aliens since the 70s and they're still doing it.
They say that life evolves into the next dimension(density) and they live in higher dimensions and have evolved out of the third dimension we live in like hundreds of thousands or millions of years ago. They have a quarantine of our plane and protect us from the bad ayylmaos. But even the aaylmaos that evolved into the negative dimensions eventually have to evolve back into the positive dimension. The positive aliens all believe in service to others and the negative believe in service to self and you have to become selfless to evolve into the positive dimensions.
https://www.llresearch.org/>>799450Isnt the most obvious answer to the "paradox" that FTL travel isnt possible and that there is actually very little reason to expand outside your homeworld. Space is 99.99999% empty nothingness, and parts that have something in it are 99.99999% inhospitable to any lifeform.
>>799431Nerd stuff isn’t always stuff you grow out of even if it’s non normie
>>799431most nerds are stunted and mysanthropic manchildren, they'll watch this slop for the century, think about Star Wars fans, the first two were fine movies, but most of the franchise has been absolute shit for decades now. Yet they still slurp on the slop
>>799475That's a stereotype. Why is it so wrong for adult males to safely enjoy superheroes and interstellar travellers without accusations of being creeps?
Why does male maturity always have to mean shedding all nuance of fantastical adventure? Why does male entertainment have to e reduced to war documentaries and podcasts about masculinity (which is mystified and gatekept to hell)
>>799447>On the other hand, maybe we would be better off with an alien intelligence ruling us rather than the bourgeois who seem to be both malicious and incompetentWhy do people always wanna glorify aliens being Omni benevolent travellers?
Higher intelligence doesnt mean higher empathy.
Whose to say they don't have ulterior motives?
They probably have the same problems as humans do
>>799496>They probably have the same problems as humans doWhat could you possiblybase that asdumption on?
>>799455Those aliens are really just demonic beings.
>>799492No one gets called a creep for watch capeslop or scifi slop. You won, Cinema is worse then before, artists are all in into slop ideology, litterature is dying, and it's all going to get worse due to AI, what do you have to whine, people like me are far and few between.
You'll be old and dying, see your grandchildren suffer in the great climate crisis, and yet you'll still wonder what happened to glup shitto in Star wars 21 !
>>799497What makes you assume they wouldn't?
We see in the animal kingdom and in space how hostile nature can be.
Stars cannibalize each other.
Their radiation can chemically alter geochemistry of planets for better or worse
Aliens probably would become space faring species for mineral extraction to cope with climate change caused by increased solar radiation
>>799501You're getting triggered over superheroes and space travellers
Also literature and cinema were already complaining bout quality slumps long before that.
>>799504I'm getting triggerred over the death of culture and of the arts.
They were right back then, they are right now.
>>799506People complained about romance stories and crime noir
>>799508I don't care what they complained back then, do you seriously think the Mandalorian and Grogu is some great piece of art ? It never should have existed in the first place.
>>799506I notice that people like you who tend to obsess over "quality" in the arts are often misanthropic and think too highly of themselves.
>>799509So you admit that your bias against sci Fi is just pure preference
>>799510I obsess over quality in the arts because I care for the humane, do you think the corporate executives that produced your favorite slop did ?
>>799511I don't think all scifi is bad, but there is absolutly a large amount of slop in that genre, star wars being the most preeminent exemple.
>>799513>I obsess over quality in the arts because I care for the humane, do you think the corporate executives that produced your favorite slop didAlot of performance arts were anything but humane. Many composers and coaches were abusive towards their subordinates. Not just sexually.
>I don't think all scifi is bad, but there is absolutly a large amount of slop in that genre, star wars being the most preeminent exemple.Same could be said for romance and action or comedy
>>799519>Alot of performance arts were anything but humane. Many composers and coaches were abusive towards their subordinates. Not just sexually. Completly unrelated to anything I said, you can be an asshole and still make good art.
>Same could be said for romance and action or comedyTrue ? Again not my point.
>>799458Doesn't have to be an element, maybe it's some novel compound that the aliens poop out, why would anyone bother traveling across the galaxy if they don't want anything?
>>799496I was half joking but my point was that at least the aliens would just be malicious, probably not incompetent
>>799225>>799229>>799237you uyghas truly have no idea if you think anons situation is enviable. Dealing with an emotional wreck of a person is a hell I wouldnt wish on anyone
>>799525That's stupid too. But the theory makes more sense. That's the theory that some people have about "the greys"(who believe this shit is real) that they have reached some genetic dead end through bad breeding or something and that's why they come here to abduct people to steal our genes. They could easily take human DNA without abducting anybody but whatever. But realistically organic matter only matters to us for how it effects our biology. We're in the process right now of being able to gene edit whatever. The alien biology wouldn't share the same DNA as us so it would be useless in that regard.
>>799496I think the evil aliens trope is more common than benevolent aliens. Often times they're just monsters but somehow capable of interstellar travel. You should read the Three Body Problem books that I was mentioning that spawned this whole discussion. He goes deep into the ideas you're talking about so much so that the second book "The Dark Forest" is often mentioned by name as a solution to the Fermi Paradox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox#Only_one_intelligent_species_can_exist_in_a_given_region_of_space >>799523> True ? Again not my point.It’s my point though that you’re being biased.
>>799532This. That shit is only good in fiction where all the characters are gorgeous and Witty and skilled
>>799537> That's stupid too. But the theory makes more sense. That's the theory that some people have about "the greys"(who believe this shit is real) that they have reached some genetic dead end through bad breeding or something and that's why they come here to abduct people to steal our genes. Isn’t genetic diversity of domestic dogs being deprived due to artificial selection?
Same for food staples. Monocultural farming is damaging the ecosystem
>>799572Except I'm not ? I recognized that good scifi exists
>>799447>maybe we would be better off with an alien intelligence ruling us rather than the bourgeois who seem to be both malicious and incompetentThis is just oldschool colonialism apologia repackaged. It's actually worked that way in maybe Tibet and postwar East Germany. If aliens did conquer the earth they would install the most vile, controllable, epsteinite bourgeoisie as their collaborationist planetary government.
>>799579Fucking this. I hate how leftists always glaze the “foreign/exotic” demographics just because they’re “foreign/exotic” overlooking their nature
My wife's Bull just scaled that wall like it was fucking nothing.
Am I being gaslit or am I gaslighting myself? The main thing that comes about when I talk to other guys is often asking me if I'm seeing any women or if I have a girl. I feel like these guys are clowning me but maybe I'm just doing it myself. I don't really feel like dating but at the same time I do feel like I'm missing out on something. I think at least some women like me but I'm too unwilling to pursue. The unknown feels scary. I'm only really writing this because it happened to me yesterday I was talking to a younger male coworker and he brought it up. I said I wasn't particularly interested but he pressed and asked why. I also told that coworker might've been interested in me because she had once asked if I had any plans on a valentines day. She's also seemed to want to get my attention on a few occasions but unfortunately she's dead now. I also lied and said I hadn't been with a woman in years when I've never been with a woman. Everything is really hard to explain because I don't even understand myself. And actually women have also asked me similar questions. Does everyone just want to measure my worth? Yeah probably. Anyways that's all I got for now.
>>799624Tbh, it's somewhat of a good sign for you, it means they think you're the kind of person who'se likely to get a relationship
>>799624> The main thing that comes about when I talk to other guys is often asking me if I'm seeing any women or if I have a girl.they're asking because it's strange to them that you're not seeing anyone. in other words, you SEEM like a dateable person. this is good.
> And actually women have also asked me similar questions.that's adorable, anon. they're asking if you're available, dummy. you're better off than most people here.
>>799624I think there a hell of a lot of downsides to relationships. I don't think being single is necessarily a horrible thing. You're kind of expected to turn into that person's best friend, well even more than that, at it can be pretty annoying or even stressful if you don't see eye to eye with that person on things or share a lot of interests. Might as well try out dating now tho.
>>799634Singlehood is seen as loserdom unfortunately. But what’s even worse is that dating is tiresome and people still wanna keep doing it
>>799638Because the liberal media wants you to find a trad wife and fuck her repeatedly to breed future proles for the capitalist agenda. Libs and rightists are scared of the virgins because we're either sexually inept compared to the chads or part of the LGBT community. Because in their mind, marriage is a union between a "man and a woman".
>>799644LGBT people are pressured to have kids as well. The truth is, LGBT folk were never accepted as people but only as pop culture products
>>798793I look like the men in picrel but I’ve never even kissed a girl…
>>799789You're a fakechad then.
>>794927Every incel could get a girlfriend if they just stopped being picky eaters !
>>799789You most likely dont, those are hot enough for women to fuck them on visuals alone.
However yeah, what the "its all about looks" blackpillers dont get is that women can sniff out neurodivergence like they are bloodhounds. Even attractive men are shit out of luck if they cant sufficiently perform masculinity.
>>799865>You most likely dont You do not know me.
>those are hot enough for women to fuck them on visuals aloneThen why won’t they fuck me?
>>799878I don't know, alpha fux beta bux?
>>799909
Welcome back Pasiphae
I'm kind of scared of the Bull tbh
>>799943How it feels to be a citizen of Akragas watching Perilaus burn in the brazen bull.
I actually become angry when I see attractive women in public.
>>800017I feel that way sometimes too. Luckily I don't leave the house much.
Despite being roughly 40% of the globe's population, hetero males represent over 90% of:
Rapists
Thieves
Child Abusers
Murderers
Homophobes
Assaulters
Racists
Reactionaries
And every single other antisocial scum you can imagine really
Hetero males are the OVERWHELMINGLY majority of right-wingers globally, it is no exageration to claim over 90% of every right-wing/reactionary party in the globe is a hetero male sausage fest
As if the statistics and the fact they're a fascist demographic aren't bad enough, straight male """culture""" and """mannerism"" are vile to stratospherical levels, consider the fact hetmoids are devoid of ANY POSITIVE sentiment and emotion, and completely uncapable of showing empathy, tenderness, kindness and general human decency because apparently doing so is ""gay"" (and "gay" for hetmoids is the ultimate offense, worse than being perceived as a pedophile or child murderer). Hetero males can't have a basic personal hygiene routine because it's "gay", they can't wipe and wash their assholes because it's "gay", they can't wear nor have pink stuff because it's "gay", and the only things true hetmoids can have as hobbies and interests are football, women, ufc fights, cars, beer and pewpew shooting online games, anything that deviates from these is inherent "homosexual" according to their sick minds. They also can't piss while sitting down either because the only true macho thing is having your woman cleaning up the disgusting mess you do at the toilet
If they only kept these brainworms to themselves I wouldn't give a shit but they'll literally verbally and physically harass and hate and assault ANY man that deviates from their accepted and disgusting cultural norms as early as SCHOOL DAYS. Meaning even at childhood a hetmoid is inherently a violent bigoted subhuman animal.
Hetero males also only see women as slaves and cum dumpsters, trophies to brag about to their "bros", in fact, hetero male ""friendship"" consists of attacking, humiliating and belitting each other all the game (90% of the time calling each other "gay"), and the rare occasions they compliment each other they can ONLY do so to the stuff they have or did (how many women they fucked, the expensive material stuff they have, etc), never THEM directly, on the extremely rare occasion they compliment each others' appearance they can only so indirectly, because it's "gay" to do otherwise, ex: 'bro has rizz', 'bro has swag'. I genuinely believe an average hetero male life is devoid of any positive interactions with ANY human being, including their """friends""".
In short, hetero males are a political abomination because they're fascist, an ethical abomination because they're violent, hateful, bigoted and sadistic, and a cognitive abomination because they're ignorant. The End
>>800034You're wrong, historically women were more conservative then men, and nowadays it's about 50/50 in the general population, even if young women are more left wing then men in the west.
>>800034Let not act like women don’t have shallow performance of friendship with each other
>>800034>RapistsMen who report being raped by women never get taken seriously so all women on male rape goes unrecorded.
>ThievesWomen are the majority of shoplifters this is indisputable. When men rob they usually go for single high-value targets (rich mansions, banks, jewelry stores etc.) but the sheer amount of casual shoplifting I've seen women get away with (stealing candy bars, stealing clothes, etc.) is insane and would definitely outnumber the men in sheer scale and attempts.
>Child AbusersWomen in relationships always expect their husband to discipline the kids and play the "bad cop" this is just an outgrowth from that expectation when the kid gets old enough to report it.
>RacistsWomen are just more casual and indirect about their racism.
>HomophobesAgain, women are just more casual and indirect when they're homophobes.
>ReactionariesBoth men and women are reactionaries. Communist party vote percentages are in the single digits and often below 5% in Western countries. Women vote for libshit parties that are just as reactionary as the conservatard parties.
>>800034Have you tried speaking to women, sweaty 💅
>>800149>I've seen women get away with (stealing candy bars, stealing clothes, etc.)You are half wrong brocialist its not those petty things, its cosmetics and makeup the main goods, fem illegalists beck in the day used to have entire forums and subreddits dedicated to shoplifting 200 dollars of lipstick and shit
>>800169critical support to female shoplifters in their fight against Bernard Arnault and global Macronism
>>800170louis vuitton is a kulak and femlumpens shall liquidate them inshallah
feminism does not apply to:
>Right wing women
>Tradwives
>Bourgeois women
>Female police officers/agents/other LEOs
>Women who willingly joined the military (which currently is all of them in the military)
>>800174The first feminists were bourgeois ?
Reminder that you should be following
>Below 16: not dating period
>16 Not dating more than two years older
>17: Not dating more than two years older or one year younger
>18: Not more than four years older and not more than two years younger
>19: Not more than 5 years older and not less than two years younger
>20: Not more than 2 years younger or 6 years older
>21: Not more than 3 years younger and not more than 7 years older
>22+: Half your age + 7
>40+ Half your age + 10
If you do not follow these rules, you are a peter gerard scully matthew falder richard huckle tier pedophile.
>>800178Lol no, get a life
>>800179It applies to women too.
>>800182wierd funfact btw…in 2025 america more women over 30 have had children than under 30
>>800183It shouldn't apply to anyone
>>800183Can you add me as an exception tho, Won't let the other ones do it tho.
>>800188You shouldn't be dating barely 18 year olds. creep. They were raising their hands to ask to go to the bathroom only a year ago and some still are.
>>800196I don't disagree, but his specific rules are absurdly strict, nothing wrong with a 23 year old dating an 18 year old for exemple
One bad decision and as I consequence I get routinely raped for over 2 years.
>>800204How it feels to be Persephone
>>800197just say its pedophilia but it makes me hard and wet so its not bad
>>800206i thought my uygha hades is a kidnapper not a rapist, kinda like beauty and the beast
>>800208It's litterally called the rape of persephone
>>800209i got c+ in school so i probably forgot the story
reminds me of the rape of sabine, where i thought it was a massive gangrape then i read and its forced marriages and kidnapping and stockholme syndrom
>>800196Eighteen is an adult.
You should stop infantilizing them.
By your logic, we shouldn’t be dating people over fifty because they have to have assistance to use the bathroom
>>800342>>800183Eighteen thru twenty four should be free to date any adult age they want. None of these ridiculous rules. Stop projecting your lack of maturation onto them
>>800345Then hang out with ugly and short people.
>>800345>I'm tall and built but have no presencelearn to juggle?
>>800345I'm going to suckle on my wife's Bull's nipples for the first time tonight.
>>800346i dont base my friendships on that and they are all shorter already anyway
>>800347is this slang for something
>>800345Don’t you know that it’s bad to make anything worthy of your life before thirty?
It stunts your empathy.
At least according to this anon.
(Pic related is just rationalized copium for failure to launch)
>>800345Yea.
This whole “enjoy your youth/take it easy” that society tells you in your teens and twenties is actually detrimental.
Not to say you shouldn’t but to often it implies remaining mediocre and “grounded” and stuck in idle recreation.
You ever jacked it so much you couldnt cum got bored and went outside? Happened to me today. Porns so fake and dumb. It should honestly be banned just so nibbuhz go outside and fuck in the real.
>>800370I think that's just you. Their are other ways to wile away your time other than porn that doesn't involve sex stuff. People might just start using their imagination more. Also people might just leave the house and touch grass just to scope other people out to whack off to later. It really depends on lots of things.
>>800373
>Women don't even find it attractive anymore after the Lesbian Wave of 2026 where they all decided to stop flirting with me.
Maybe you just walled hard.
The entire house shakes when the Bull comes up the stairs to the bedroom.
>>800395King Minos before sending the Minotaur in the Labyrinth.
>>800395Bro lives in the ineluctable prison
I think about this anorexic cracker chuddette I had a schizuationship with every time I can't cum with my gf, and it's starting to concern me. I think she might be the only woman I ever actually loved. I have a beautiful and sweet girlfriend and I'm pining over some mid pussy just because I could let all the internet bullshit out of my brain around her. She convinced an old friend from highschool to cut me off too.
>>800489>and I'm pining over some mid pussy just because I could let all the internet bullshit out of my brain around her.christ, fucking same. when i tried to break up with my gf i tried to mention something like this, tried to dilute it a little bit with "our convos are boring" but genuinely i can blurt out whatever shit i want with my situationship/lover and is a huge reason why i was cheating to begin with. she isn't even a chud, she's just tuned to my brain and it's driving me mental
The Bull has started nesting again.
>>800489>>800497humblebraggers out
>6'3
>bottom
there's a suprising amount of tall gay dudes into being cuddled
>>800617There’s yaoi stories about big-bodied ukes that are overlooked
>>800634Those are probably outliers. They’re probably miserable and self isolated like their cis counterparts
>>800370Nah. That’s just you.
People still go outside. Imageboard users need to stop projecting their vices onto others.
>whenever i find cool people with similar interests on twitter they turn out to be trans
Same. Trans women seem to make up disproportional number of cool people. Although I am aware that if I trasitioned I wouldnt be one of them, I just would be an unlovable incel chud with tits.
>>800644>I just would be an unlovable incel chud with tits.that's an improvement in some ways
>>800656You must marry them now.
Sometimes when the Bull hasn't unloaded for 24 hours I can hear a dull humming sound coming from his balls.
>>800758Anon, that's not a bull, that's your fridge!!
I was once messaged by a beautiful trans girl on grindr who tried to talk to me about yugioh and I asked her what would happen if you impermed a BEWD and she said "idk", to which i said "trick question that is an illegal play" and I never spoke to her again
>>800644I was born to be an ugly bastard who hotglues figurines but I ended up transitioning instead. you can do it too
TW: weird position toward trans
I didn't want to lose my virginity to a trans girl or NB. I just wanted my first time to be straight-forward and conventional, penis in vagina. Now that I've gotten that ritual out of the way, I'm happy to try experiences which are more exciting, including a lovely 40yo mommy spanking my lacy butt if I'm lucky
>>800774I can't find the greentext where anon kept masturbating to their neighbors absolutely thumping each other into the mattress every night
it was their washing machine >>800792at what age did you transition?
>>800796I used to think this way, but now I regret it. Honestly if my first time had been a cute trans girl or enbie blowing me it would have been better than condom piv with a woman 5 years older than me i didn't really like.
>>800814got on the whoremones at 5 years old. legally by 8.
>>800815Well luckily I managed to have condom piv with a woman 7 years older than me who i kinda like. And I don't regret it.
>>800839In this life if you really want to do something you just got to say fuck it and go for it. No matter the cost. Having inhibitions really sets you back from experiencing life. Boy do I know about being inhibited but I don't see myself changing.
>>800842I want to engage in mutual masturbation with you anon.
>>800851You already are by posting on leftypol.org
>>800854Ok I have my cock out and I've got a bottle lube next to me. Where are you at?
>>800859Help! I'm stuck in the lube bottle!
>>796368> When the child can go to nursery you go back to work, return to 50/50 but also do more of the school pick ups I don't think this is actually that common. If it takes a hit to career then 50/50 usually stops happening, maybe goes to 60/40 or less.
> This is precisely why 50/50 is a trap for women and why there is a rise in women choosing to be singleBecause they would rather be single than be with someone who isn't making good money. That's the subtext. It isn't about the person, money is the fundamental subtext of everything.
There is no true reciprocal because generally the way these relationships play out, it follows a leech/victim pattern where the first one always overstates the nature of their contribution (could be a man or a woman, but the latter is more encouraged by the hivemind).
The benefit of true 50/50 financially (or close to it) is that there's no bullshitting around it, it's purely quantitative. This whole "reciprocal contribution" thing is just one giant psyop/negotiation to extract more out of the opposing party. "Reciprocal" can always be distorted. The thing is with finances there's no bullshitting around it. It's an irrefutable number.
Say there's some wannabe SAHM that wants to bullshit their way into marrying a rich guy. This 50/50 requirement instantly filters out this type. Maybe it's not a true 50/50, maybe it's 60/40, but this type will be instantly infuriated by this type of boundary because it now means that they're being held to a standard. So it limits the kind of bullshit they can get away with
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