>>13500>>538767>>13503>>13504>>13505Umm most of those conservatards are double/triple the age you think they are.
Also women have been spoiled by chivalry.
The only winning move is not to play.
>>13500Preaching to the choir here that Marriage is a bourgeois institution. My GF goes on and on about that shit, and it's not happening. Spend thousands of dollars on a party and some church I don't even give a fuck about. I really like her, but if she can't exorcise her catholic spooks it's not going to work out in the long run.
>Not Economcially Viable ManMy favorite scene in the whole film. They're dressed the same and in a similar situation but the cops arrest the black man just for picketing while giving d-fens every chance to give up his gun. I always read into it that there was an unrealized potential for solidarity.
>>13503She has a point. Inflation has made "six figures" useless as a signifier of wealth. That's a low salary these days in a porky rat den like LA, SF, or NY.
>>13508the real crisis in cisheterosexual datting is the sense of entitlement for sex/romance.
Most people lack the home training to care for a partner let alone themselves.
How many people under sixty nowadays cook or clean or fix broken appliances?
>>13496Sex is just worse than masturbation. Once you strip down the social gratification sex provides (that is, once you stop being spooked), all sex provides is a way to build or practice intimacy with another. Which is great, granted you actually care about the other person. Otherwise, hook ups are kind of a waste of time if you're not gauging them as potential future partners.
Or maybe that's just my bias, idk.
>>13503>outrage baitIf any of you fall for it, you're no better than the average Fox News consumer.
>>538767Kill yourself.
>>13510I doubt that's a criteria for getting into a relationship. I can do all of those; in fact, most people I know, of both genders, do all of those.
>>13515Marriage was always a patriarchal thing yet for some weird reason people still want it.
People are too dumb to appreciate singlehood.
>>13506>The only winning move is not to play.The real winning move is to spoil the game and make it unplayable.
>>13510>sex/romance must be "paid for" by productive compliance to Puritan ideologyThe nuclear household itself is a dead institution, with history having undermined the material basis of its existence, and we would do much better to leave such senile forms behind.
>>13522I need exact numbers because something tells me its going to be like 1.5% gap.
>>13524More plausible explanation is men being willing to marry women of lower socio-economic station (i.e. immigrants), while women arent particularly excited about marring some mexican dishwasher.
>>13529>You are diluting the meaning of trafficking with your takeYeah, make the mean man stop dissing the foreign entrepreneurial spirit so we can continue to spread neoliberalism and death squads
>are women generally produced by society to reproduce the bourgeois orderThe next move, I take it, is to sit here and pretend that your radically-reactionary Protestant ideology wasn't responsible for that condition, that you did not raise women to reproduce "society" as men defined it?
>>13521>industrial skills as a maturity license for relationships is heckin toxicngmi
Also thenuclear family model is a bourg model thats been commonalised in the nineteenth century. It was meant for pastoral/plantation barons.
>>13531>men marrying impoverished women are dangling this opportunity to escape the third world turning marriage, an already backwards patriarchal institution, into a financial transaction where a women was acquired as some sort of merchandise, much akin to trafficking99% of poor women living in the "third world" wouldn't marry a guy they hate just to get citizenship of some western shithole. And the few who would are social climbers who would likely just be gold diggers in their own country anyway. Most firstie man/thirdie woman relationships are no more exploitative than those between two people from the west.
But sure I guess the retarded thirdies need an enlightened white westerner to tell them what's good for them… In fact it might suprise you to learn that many people actually like living in the third world, and have no desire to "escape poverty" and live in the west. Shocking, I know.
>>13538Irony is, marriage was better off when it was about estate management.
Romance is just semi-materialism.
LOOKS, MONEY, TALENTPeople lie to themselves about romamtic love being transcendent yet time amd time again, people break up due to loss of spark due to loss of any of the three principalities
>>13511>doesn't realize that she's supposed to withhold sex to blackmail you into marriageHer aunts told her to do this lol. Too late.
>>13536Which is more obnoxious to hear?
>not inside (fucking raw)>cum inside (with a rubber on)It's a pet peeve of mine when chicks do the latter. I'm sure zizek could make a talk about how the contradiction is actually a good thing, like proclaiming you are marxist while actually being a CIA liberal mouthpiece.
>>13546Father figures are fetishised even moethan mother figures.
And imo society puts far too much moral investment in fathers as the stabilisers of malehood.
Most fathers are just watching TV for two thirds of the day after work or yelling at the wife and kids.
>>13550i look kinda scary with my head shaved,
its also very over for other reasons
>>13574>muh incels>muh pedos >you're just mad that i'm right The conservatoid moralfag is reaching it's final form.
But out of curiosity, there is a lot of inequality in the west, so should men only be allowed to date women of the same income bracket, race and social background in their home countries too? I want to know how far this logic will go.
>>13495>go on date with enby>we do a little kissing and touching>later match with their best friend and potential future roommate>couple days ago we fuck and she gives me hickeys>replies seem kinda stifled but maybe that’s me>other dependable hu stopped replying consistently a couple weeks backi always forget the #1 dating rule which is to establish an addicting and romantic relationship before hooking up.
is it over for me
i’m in such deep limerence with this girl. I hardly even know her but we really hit it off. and then the other hu, it was awkward but solid until we got more distant. she speaks too quietly for me tbh it makes communicating irl kind of a pain
now that replies are getting sparse I can assume she’s phasing me out or just busy. but im leaning towards the former, i probably made her feel bad about hooking up especially with the lack of after care.
but then why the hickeys? why mark me like that? maybe she saw it as a simple sex act but holy fuck i can’t help but want to be owned and commanded by her like i’ve written an entire page about how I would probably just devote my life to her if she wanted that, how i want to become stronger emotionally for her and even improve my physique again after a solid year out of the gym. it’s driving me fucking insane. I know i only see hickeys as a sign she wants something long term because that’s all i’m looking for. I know i can’t change how she feels, i can’t make her like me if she just ends up not end to me.
i’m struggling to maintain friendships and all i really want is another codependent relationship something to make me feel whole again. a reason to go on cute dates, to buy gifts, to make crafts. i want to wake up next to someone like her, even if we don’t work out in that way i can’t help but obsess. i know it’s one sided but it gives me hope
thanks for listening to my vent post ig i’m glad i got to externalize this because it’s been keeping me awake all night
>>13597First of all it is the shit state of heterosexual dating and not the video itself, the video may very well be false but it does represent some of what is going on now. Secondly I am specifically talking about myself and luckily I live somewhere where being gay isn't life-threatening. I also know this because I have done gay shit, clubs, sex with some guys. But I'm only attracted to femboys, etc. like a lot of terminally only people on imageboards. However, I'm really not attracted to masculinity and I have to avoid paying too much attention to secondary masculine traits of guys. I can walk through a crowded mall and not see a single guy I'd bang. I
sometimes and in infrequently think if I was actually attracted to masculine men I'd be a happier since I would actually be able to find an SO.
>>13572Based Engels
>>13567>cultural critic and individualist phaseYes, and don't read Capital first or you'll turn into a neoliberal — the series is a demystification of capitalism, not a moral exemplar or a plan to reform it, and in any case incomplete (Vol. 3 was assembled posthumously by Engels, Vol. 4 was never written).
Better start with the Grundrisse so that you can see how little brief Marx held for the boiler suit fetishists and social conservatives in general.
>>13601>Maybe that's the future of relationships under neoliberalismThe changing conditions for human reproduction eventually produce a different social-biological reproductive order altogether. Last week someone posted a Zillow ad that washed away the romantic implications of cohabitation. It proposed that multiple people who could not afford a space of their own could join in fractional mortgage ownership of a house. When you move the money aside for a moment and squint really hard, you can almost see a condominium mindset (as distinct from an apartment mindset) arising. I think that structure can also be proletarianized, if landlords can be made to tolerate the form outside of university towns and other youth cultures, i.e. against the reproduction of the landlord's social station as moral enforcer.
Engels, presciently writing from 140 years ago:
< And as sexual love is by its nature exclusive – although at present this exclusiveness is fully realized only in the woman – the marriage based on sexual love is by its nature individual marriage. We have seen how right Bachofen was in regarding the advance from group marriage to individual marriage as primarily due to the women. Only the step from pairing marriage to monogamy can be put down to the credit of the men, and historically the essence of this was to make the position of the women worse and the infidelities of the men easier. If now the economic considerations also disappear which made women put up with the habitual infidelity of their husbands – concern for their own means of existence and still more for their children’s future – then, according to all previous experience, the equality of woman thereby achieved will tend infinitely more to make men really monogamous than to make women polyandrous.< But what will quite certainly disappear from monogamy are all the features stamped upon it through its origin in property relations; these are, in the first place, supremacy of the man, and, secondly, indissolubility. The supremacy of the man in marriage is the simple consequence of his economic supremacy, and with the abolition of the latter will disappear of itself. The indissolubility of marriage is partly a consequence of the economic situation in which monogamy arose, partly tradition from the period when the connection between this economic situation and monogamy was not yet fully understood and was carried to extremes under a religious form. Today it is already broken through at a thousand points. If only the marriage based on love is moral, then also only the marriage in which love continues. But the intense emotion of individual sex-love varies very much in duration from one individual to another, especially among men, and if affection definitely comes to an end or is supplanted by a new passionate love, separation is a benefit for both partners as well as for society – only people will then be spared having to wade through the useless mire of a divorce case. Indeed, that has been happening. Today, leashes are shorter, tighter, but easier to unhook (mostly).
>>13604>any relationship that doesn't end in lifetime pair-bonding is "leading on"Those are the old goalposts.
>The second paragraph rings true, but is this happening? I think that video shows the economic power structure still in placeIt is. Importantly, not all of the people in the video are intimately involved. There was a couple and two other single friends IIRC. What is material here is the repurposing of infrastructure (financial and physical), intended and configured for nuclear family reproduction, to other modes of living for which there is no demand.
>but divorced from as Engels puts it sex-love in the men she's leading on but not sleeping with. I similarly doubt the man she's sleeping with is any more monogamous than her.Jesse,
>>13607>males are exoendalengmi
Maybe you should maybe stop gynocentrism in media?
>>13583>>13582the only to prevent this is to decriminalise youth sexuality.
We should go back to the old system of arranged marriages but only with childhood friends.
And it should be optional.
>>13612>We should go back to the old system of arranged marriages but only with childhood friends.when was this ever the system lol
your native isekai isn't real
>>13615You are being compartmentalized.
Daily recurrent sexual urges for masturbation have become the symptom of a literal dependency in which physical social relations have been substituted by a circuit of consumption (pornography).
You no longer view your behaviours throughout the day as the contiguous interrelated states of a single constituted subject, but through the existence of discrete modes.
>>13616modes of being*
I fucking hate capitalism.
>>13617You lose the ability for basic introspection by consuming pornography, because it is quite literally shackling you to a lifestyle in which physical social interaction has been substituted by a commodity which constitutes a technical reproduction of fantasies.
Fantasy, which once took place as part of a social space, has been reduced into something that is being sold back to you.
>>13620The order of the fantasies that one derrives from their social interactions with a community, absent of this system, are those that form through the individual's sublation of their existence within this community: their fantasies are a reflection of a shared social being.
Pornography is quite literally an industry of production, in which explicit sexual desire is reproduced and to be consumed. My fantasies are no longer an expression of my shared social being, but the state of the technical reproduction of pornography and the various fetishes.
>>13623You're viewing these as impermenant categories, which is entirely unmarxist.
>>13625Unortunately, social thought is itself a product of determine historical conditions. So unless you're Kevin Spacey from K-PAX, I think you're stuck in the same situation we all are.
>>13635Here you go dude. You quoted a book you quite literally haven't read thinking you'd win an imaginary argument in your head.
Here's a wikipedia page summarising the implications of that chapter:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_fetishism >>13638Congratulations, debate cuck, you constructed a straw man and demolished it while I was telling you to kill yourself. What a demonstration of your superiority, yawn.
I would expect nothing more or less from a hazbot.
I shall leave you to your neoliberal moralfaggotry now. Kys reactionary
>>13642>>13643I literally cannot tell if you are trolling or if you are retarded.
If you think reducing the dimensions of human psychology and the socialisation of sexuality within capitalist society to critical questioning is "moralising" you seriously don't belong on this site.
>>13646It is quite literally the opposite. If you view commodity consumption as liberating you quite literally do not belong here.
>>13644You keep posting this when it has absolutely no relevance to the conversation claiming that you've won the argument in your head.
Seek help.
>>13649>>13651Because the use of liberating in that word has very clear contextual connotations that only someone on the spectrum would miss.
>>13653I'm not claiming it's degrading anything. Because you clearly have the patience and understanding of someone who gets their political views through Tik Tok, here is the summary:
>>13637>Commodity consumption decomposes the individual into a functioning structural disunity >>13647>critical questioningMoral entrepreneurship is not impressive, not valuable, a waste of everyone's time.
>If you view commodity consumption as liberating you quite literally do not belong here.Then stop eating and kys.
>>13657I have so clearly kicked the hornets nest of somebody who has spent more time watching penises enter things than they have read books
>>13659Ah yes, I forgot asking questions about the nature of one's existence as a human being is
>moral entrepreneurship >>13669>You were just at the bottom of a LONG list of male contacts for her that dayIDK probably, I was just excited to reconnect with an old friend. They're into a lot of really cool shit and also suffered imageboard brainrot (so they "get" it) but I guess it's just been too long
:|
>>13676this is mainly due to socialisation.
Also in nature theres species where females are socialised to be expendable.
Also women can be sexless because thyre worshipped for their beauty. When that runs out especially after having kids and are no longer worshipped lok what happens.
But ok of men are expendable so are women
>>13676And this is why so many men are turning to alt right. Because shitheads like you think that penis havers are a blight.
Women are worshipped for their wombs.
But if women werent young beautiful or fertile what do you think happens to them?
If mn are expendable so are women for havin wombs and beauty.
>>13680you mean postpubescent gamers.
Also why are bait and switching
>>13679The material explanation is that she assumes circumcision is universal, a known mental defect among right-wing idealists.
<If now someone has distorted the meaning in such a way that the economic factor is the only decisive one, this man has changed the above proposition into an abstract, absurd phrase which says nothing. The economic situation is the base, but the different parts of the structure-the political forms of the class struggle and its results, the constitutions established by the victorious class after the battle is won, forms of law and even the reflections of all these real struggles in the brains of the participants, political theories, juridical, philosophical, religious opinions, and their further development into dogmatic systems-all this exercises also its influence on the development of the historical struggles and in cases determines their form. It is under the mutual influence of all these factors that, rejecting the infinitesimal number of accidental occurrences (that is, things and happenings whose intimate sense is so far removed and of so little probability that we can consider them non-existent, and can ignore them), that the economical movement is ultimately carried out. Otherwise the application of the theory to any period of history would be easier than the solution of any simple equation.>>13681>postpubescentToo retarded to allow to breed, if so
>>13689Youre forgetting about other classics:
"Looks dont matter".
"Just work on your personality"
"Theres someone for everyone"
>>13689They are judgments softened by helpfulness. Those two never apply to the same people at the same time, of course.
Real talk, instead of those pat answers, try using Theses on Feuerbach as a guide to improving social competency.
>>13707LeftyPol is an imageboard and all imageboards are mostly the same.
Nothing but postpubescent angst over unfulfilled teenage adventurism.
>>13716it actually means you already have latent esoteric knowledge, but no one being interested in you is on the first stage of how the CIA will target individuals who have the potential to endanger the status quo (look up Henry Flynt Creep Theory). once you have embraced this and become schizocel, then members of the desired
sex will start to gangstalk you. this is the next stage of how they'll try to stop you and when they're getting scared.
>>13719Ragebait.
>>13722Not an option if you want to stay sane. Not saying bourgeois marriage to someone you don't like is the solution, but people need relationships.
>>13724If peoppe need relationships, we need to stopcriminalising youth sexuality.
Or, maybe have mandatory hospitality training for desperate sexless loveless people.
Again the problem is to many people feel entitled to sex and romance yet they lack any social/industrial skills.
>>13727>>13725>>13726Yea this is also good
>>13728>we need to stopcriminalising youth sexuality.I live in a sexually liberal country with an age of consent on the lower end (which isn't enforced among minors anyway), and there are still plenty of incels. Men are born incels, it isn't something which manifests during adolescence.
>>13729Getting your hands on a canister of pure inert gas is difficult in many countries as governments have now started regulating sales of them to prevent suicides.
>>13734not once geneediting and sapient robots are real
well… though… I guess if robots were sapient that would mean they could also find you unattractive… but still it would definitely help if you could turn yourself into a futa anime babe with an afternoon's genetank therapy
>>13730>Men are born incelsDo you mean the entirety of the male gender by default or the social type of male?
Imo I think the gynocentric approach in heterosexual romance is whats causing this.
>>13719>boring nice guysI'm starting to believe the schizo theory that the ideal partner for women, the one pervading their subconscious, is someone of immense power but also immensely life-threatening.
Because besides financial stability, good looks and being smart, what in the serious fuck are women expecting of men even?
>>13743It may well be that women don't want a life partner, and that what women-roles want from men-roles these days is no power games, and that whatever pervading of subconscious you're after is not only old and busted but actively revolting to them.
Read Origins of the Family, where Engels traced out that historical moment almost 150 years ago.
>>13744>It may well be that women don't want a life partnerThis go both ways.
>and that what women-roles want from men-roles these days is no power games, and that whatever pervading of subconscious you're after is not only old and busted but actively revolting to themNot everyone is a strong and independent woman living in the developed world, most of world's population subsists in poverty and ignorance.
Lizard subconscious still rules, you can't deny that.
>Read Origins of the FamilyWill do.
>>13739Nature an nurture arent mutually exclusive forces.
You can two men born with the same disorder but in differing envoronments one can thrive while the other self-collapses.
>>13758Right wing = incel
Left wing = theorycel
>>13760nope. Inceldom is a blight to both political axes.
In fact, the left and right are more similar than different.
I bet alot of our original communists read some classic rightism.
I bet classic rightists would have more in common with Marx and Lenin than with Jordan Peterson.
Went back to work today with the baby strapped to my chest. Insane that true paternity/maternity leave is basically just a luxury for the bourgeoisie in capitalism. I'm a teacher so it didn't go badly (she just slept through it) but I long for glorious 2 years paid leave so I can properly care for my daughter away from dirty ass kids, especially while she's unvaccinated.
>>13749Acting like teenage rebellion is simply doing the opposite of what your parents instill in you early in life is silly and wrong. You don't have to perform some kind of reverse-psychology gymnastics to instill good values and ideals in kids.
>>13752Just keep up with proper stick deodorant at the very least. Cologne is a bonus on top of good hygiene, not a necessity. Don't overdo it.
>>13750This doesn't happen. Y'all goofy ass motherfuckers I swear.
>>13758Communists objectively fuck. Women provably have better sex in socialism, Fidel's sex life is legendary, Lenin and Krupskaya were adorable, etc.
If you can't fuck, maybe ask whether there's something you're failing to address. Maybe you're not actually engaging with others in a healthy way. Or hell, maybe the person who turned you down just wasn't right for you, and you should open yourself up rather than focusing on traits and "types." The woman I ended up falling in love and having a kid with is basically the opposite of what I had in mind 10 years ago. Try that instead of the dumbass horseshoe theory peddled by
>>13761 over there.
>>13766>eliminate excess males.Misandry is not welcome.
Men are not expendable.
If you think so then we should eliminate neurodivergents.
>>13763>but I long for glorious 2 years paid leave so I can properly care for my daughter away from dirty ass kids, especially while she's unvaccinated.
>Everyone elses child except mine is evil.This is why I dont respect parental figures. They always genetically/socially objectify children.
Try that instead of the dumbass horseshoe theory peddled by
>>13761 (You) over there.
Cope seethe and dilate.
>>13749Not everything is about teenage rebellion.
Teenage rebellion is due to lack of social autonomy, not parents values.
>>13765Like a lot of teachers these days I teach what I'm asked to, but my background is mainly in Science and Social Studies. Right now I'm teaching a "Liberation Studies" summer program with middle and high school Black youth. Today was the start, and we read an excerpt of Rodney along with the chapter on Dialectical Materialism from the Black Liberation Army Study Guide. Attached is the booklets I distributed to the high schoolers if you're curious.
>>13766Utterly unhinged fascist nonsense. Cut that shit out and you might actually progress in your life.
>>13767>Everyone elses child except mine is evil.That's not what I said. I love kids, as a parent and a teacher, but part of that is also recognizing the reality that kids aren't exactly born with a knowledge of hygiene (and a lot of you adults still struggle with it too). Kids do gross things, and that's a natural part of their development, but this means that it's important for the first two months of a baby's life to minimize direct contact with little kids. This is especially if they're from outside the family and you don't know whether they're vaccinated against the diseases baby's most vulnerable to (whooping cough, COVID, etc.). Once baby can complete their first round of vaccines at 2 months it's a lot safer, but my kid's not even halfway there yet.
An unfortunate reality for workers though is we don't get to just stay away from people for 2 months. Mom and Dad need to go to work and someone needs to watch the baby. Unless you can afford to hire a caregiver, that means baby's going to work with someone, which is an inherent risk to them but an inescapable reality for most working parents.
>>13777>That's not what I said. I love kids, as a parent and a teacher, but part of that is also recognizing the reality that kids aren't exactly born with a knowledge of hygiene (and a lot of you adults still struggle with it too). Kids do gross things, and that's a natural part of their development, but this means that it's important for the first two months of a baby's life to minimize direct contact with little kids. This is especially if they're from outside the family and you don't know whether they're vaccinated against the diseases baby's most vulnerable to (whooping cough, COVID, etc.). Once baby can complete their first round of vaccines at 2 months it's a lot safer, but my kid's not even halfway there yet.Ok fair point.
Elderly people esepcially are like little kids in the hygenic department.
But what Im saying is that people talk about kids with such chauvinistic bias.
"My kid is good but everyone else's kids are bad because theyre not raised by me."
And again, people choose to habe kids ad then complain about being inconvenienced.
>>13771then women are expendable too. Because we can grow babies in vats and dont really need them for beauty and nurturing.
Also we should kill off the elderly and mentally/physically disabled.
I tire of the misamdrsit-gynocentric sentiments this place has.
Men are not just dumb actors whom are made to be archaic Herculean toys.
>>13781I have, and I can't. I can mask it pretty well, but eventually the real me comes out.
Look, I have nothing to offer anyone. I cannot change. I don't believe people can change. They can only cope and put on an act. But eventually the real You emerges. Everyone does this to an extent, yes, but some have to do it more than others.
And I'm just never going to be enough. I will never have the money or (more importantly) status that women want. I don't have great relations with family (red flag) and my current friend group consists of stoners and funs (red flag).
I don't want to hear the usual canned self-help shit from anyone. It doesn't work for everyone. Fuck the apps, fuck "social hobbies" (also WHAT FUCKING HOBBIES ARE THERE ANYMORE. NO ONE UNDER THE AGE OF 55 DOES THIS SHIT OUTSIDE OF THEIR EXISTING FRIEND GROUP SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT "CLUBS" AND "MEETUPS").
And don't any of this personally, anon. I'm just fucking fed up with my life today and I can't stand it anymore.
>>13782You need to relax man, I'm pushing mid 30s and haven't had sex for years but I'm going to get a trade job and fuck some femboys and I'm way less stressed than you. Stop stressing so much lad. Also I'm gonna get a load of interests from making this van a beast. I'm gonna do morphine pills and vape with cute femboys. It's gonna rule. Not even got a fiver or a trade qualification yet btw.
>uhhh how you gonna have sex as a broke tradie mferm8 I'm gonna convert a van and fuck them in it, I'm Mr Nationwide!
>>13782>I can mask it pretty well, but eventually the real me comes out.The "real you" is not a static thing. Who honestly is the "real you" in this moment? I guarantee that though you feel a sense of continuity, the "real you" now is not genuinely the same "you" as 10 or 20 years ago. Likewise, the you 10 or even 2 years from now will not be the same "you." Additionally, consider that the act of "masking" might also be the bigger thing driving a wedge between you and others than whoever the "real you" is. As a union organizer I was the fucking worst until I realized that I wasn't being real with people, and that signaled to others without me realizing that I wasn't interested in them and that I wasn't trustworthy.
>I have nothing to offer anyone.Even if this were true, neither platonic or romantic relationships are transactional like that. Friend groups aren't like TV shows where everyone has a "role" or archetype. Humans are naturally social, we like to be around each other, and the best friendships are those where that is enough. The idea that human relationships are a series of transactions is pure bourgeois idealism.
>I cannot change. I don't believe people can change.Idealism. Cut that shit out. Like I said before, we are constantly changing, maturing, and making new connections in our brains. Unironically recommend reading
"Criticism and Self-Criticism: A Handbook", because you aren't going to get anywhere with this self-fulfilling prophecy.
>I will never have the money or (more importantly) status that women want.Neither of these things actually matter. I was an unemployed tenant union organizer when I met my partner, now we have a kid and I'm a barely-employed teacher and we're
both tenant union organizers. I wont pretend like there aren't vapid people out there, but frankly the overestimation of this issue is a major sign of being too online.
>Fuck the appsCorrect. Don't put stock in Tinder, Bumble, or the like. These are apps that actively profit from you being single.
>fuck "social hobbies"Incorrect. Personally, the way I got into doing things with others was by doing things for myself. I
love to hike, and that was a hobby I took up not to socialize, but to learn to love myself. It was something I could do between shifts or to get away from my parents when I lived with them that let me think and indulge in a genuine love for the world around me. Through that, I got into fossil/mineral hunting and amateur geology, which became a hobby that I could share with others. My first date with my partner was at a massive Devonian coral reef. She didn't even know what the hell the Devonian was, but she'd tell me a year later that my excitement over trilobites alone was genuinely attractive to her.
Point being: do hobbies for you first. Generate love for yourself and love for the world through the things you do. Learn to genuinely express that side of yourself to others, and people will find you interesting. That may not always turn into something romantic, but being real with one another about what we love is how we make connections. You aren't something to be hidden away.
>>13778Report for /pol/ and things may happen
>>13779You will be much happier if you leave the Greco-Roman aesthetic and its table of "virtues" to the dustbin of history.
>>13788Theyre misandrist in the aesthetic sense.
Their misansry is fueled by gynophilia.
They worship women in a horny way.
>>13789Why can't they just stop?
Its pushing me towards the right.
It hurts! I don't want to be told I need to be culled or here about "chad" or how i'm worthless, please stop it! I'm begging you it is hurting me badly.
>>13791Not me personally.
But things like
>>13779>>13771>>13775>>13774>>13741>>13738>>13730It hurts to read this, it is painful and makes me feel like shit, i already can't control my self-hatred for things I didn't choose and this is making it really bad and making me have a really bad day, its difficult to read things like this without feeling sick and panicky.
>>13741>immense power but also immensely life-threateningYeah, these go hand in hand.
It's funny however. This is something you can see happening in real time, men's taste and women's taste will align better.
>>13790these people are autistic manchildren either by neurocognitive pathology or just be social conditioning.
>>13793Imageboard users cannot be sincere for shit.
They all whine about society being mean but they themselves have mind blindess.
Theyre far too stuck in their own headspace.
All the whining they do about FaceBook, TikTok, Reddit, and Twitter?
Imageboards take the cake.
>>13801I responded to you in the other thread
>these people are autistic manchildren either by neurocognitive pathology or just be social conditioning.I am not sure what I am meant to take from this, I don't want to think of myself as better then other anons here. I just, don't like how they have so much emotional power over me and I can't stop it. I want to stay here to learn more about leftisim but people here unintentionally cause me to have a very bad day by posting things.
>Imageboard users cant be sincearI imagine I number amongst that, its not intentinal I just don't havea very good grasp on my own thoughts or feelingsa and I feel like a boat out to sea in a storm, maybe you are right and I have mind blindness. I don't know how to open my eyes.
>>13803>preselecting for female babies.You mean kilking male babìes?
Again the problem with inceldom is the overpromotion of romantic love.
Men are reduced to patriarchal contestatnt rather than being people.
>>13805Tech would have to catch up to filter "y" sperm. But since when are we against abortions.
>>13804None of that will alleviate the existence of a male sexual underclass. The only way is through numbers. You will still have a reserve army of counter-revolutionaries. Nowhere have I mentioned marraige. I know that it is an institution centered around private property and historically treated women as property. I also believe that as an institution it benefits men way more than women. That's why in a world that marraige either is rare or outlawed and child care is socialized basically completing the sexual liberation of women will allow them to only deal with the men they actually like instead of opting for another income for stability sake. This is a very small number of men and right now that "underclass" is getting larger. What exactly is China doing right? India also has the same problems which is why Indian women get assaulted so often.
>>13806I think youre androcidal.
AGAIN, MEN ARENOT MERELY PATRIARCHAL CONTESTANTS.
The probkem is reckless promotion of chivalry and lack of emoathy for male individuality.
But ok if you wanna screen for Y-chromosome, why not sterilise people regardless of gender?
So many dysfunctional adults have kids they cannot even raiseproperly because they themselves arent competent.
>>13809Nah, most of us no-hoes-getting folk are relatively normal, which is why we opt to stay away when the conversations turns into
this.
>>13804I don't want to devalue the materialistic approach but it simply doesn't do enough to address the issue, just look at the inflow of subjectivity this thread gets.
>>13809Not deranged, just plain stupid.
>>13820Youre assuming men are just beasts of burden thats made to be thrown away.
And Im telling you that your sentiment ispart of why we have inceldom.
Society needs to stop dehumanising men as war machines.
If men are expendable than so are women.
If women are valuable for having a womb, then whats the point of them?
We can always make moreof hem espevially since they have a shorter fertility window.
And we have the tech to grow babies in incubators.
The sacramentalisation of womn is due to their beauty, admit it.
If most women were to be biologically muscular and bulky I bet you wouldnt be deifying them as much.
This thread and this post
>>13820 specially is why I'm full doomer regarding leftism.
>>13820Fucking lol.
>>13853I never had any hopes for leftoidism, that's why I'm a communist.
>>13854Communism is only possible if we reduce current-day society to dust, the revolutionary goal being total annihilation of every particle - as in even those that are latched and part of the proletariat - of the bourgeois power structure.
Something close to a biblical event, maybe God is
indeed a communist and may be setting that to happen.
>>13858No, literally decimated.
Your communism is weak.
>>13871It's true. It's the same reason people do one night stands or whatever. They don't want to build intimacy with you so they don't cuddle with you and etc.
Whatever dude, you came looking for advice. Don't get offended by it.
>>13582Limerent-anon here. Still fucking insane about this girl. I want to see her again. I want to talk to her.. apparently her grandmas in hospice and that's why she stopped replying. really dark shit, seen family members go down this long painful road.
I hope she feels better soon. For selfish reasons only. (I am insane)
>>13894On the contrary, primitive communties engaged in male to male semen exchanges. Women were just a biological vestigate for reproduction.
I have stumbled upon the inevitable conclusion that gay sex is in fact not gay, and that it's totally fine to fuck other men.
>>13896<primitive communties engaged in male to male semen exchangesif you count transhumanists as primitive (fe)males im part of that i guess
>I have stumbled upon the inevitable conclusion that gay sex is in fact not gay, and that it's totally fine to fuck other men.You are right. Hard dick is much hotter than the Sarlacc pit fucking pussy most wimmen are toting
>>13903They only love gays as minorities but not really as people if you get my drift.
they will never sympathise with androphilia
>>13911That changes
nothing, you know that right?
>>13920i like male hands and how strong they are, how you can feel their fingers, palms and arms how there is weight and power behind what they grab
i like the hair on their arms you can tell they're well built like something expensive
i like how broad and wide they are i cant get this out of my fucking head but they have a large presence, they take up space it is great i like looking at them
i like watching them move how the muscles work to make something fast and strong
i like the adams apple and the sticky out bit of your throat i love how it not afraid to push out its just there
i like hearing men talk about stupid shit like elden ring or soemthing with passion and care
i like seeing them move foward when playing games due to focus its really fun
i like when they treat their cars or bikes or guns or anything like a child its cute
i like when they smile at you or pull you close i like feeling the strength in their arms as they use it to pull you close
other men are gods gift to me and i love them all i want to play with their dangly bits
>>13809This is what neurodivergence looks like.
This is why glorifying tortured sad artists is very bad.
>>13921The physiological descriptions you type arent limited to men.
I also think youre basing your male ifeals on posters.
>>13934Yea but never about men.
Women dont appreciate a gender group like how men do.
>>13936I don't know, I am in a clearer mind right now and I think what i wrote is correct. There is something about how when a man puts his hand on me, its his hear pumping blood to his strong hands and he is holding me with them. I know women have thise too, but… Its something about how strong a man is, how his muscles work, and he is breathing and his heart is pumping and he is holding me. I can't put it into words but it gives me this warm feeling in my chest thinking about it and how male bodies work. God fucking damn I love men, I love eveything about them. Fat skinny, tall short or whatever. It makes me feel good, thinking about them. I feel honestly happy writing this.
I have friends who just autistically info dump about games, literally one of my friends keeps making yoshi noises to me and I fucking love him, and I love how he always puts his hand on my shoulder to ask if I want some of the food he has in his fridge, and his big brown eyes and stupid fucking smile. I am spilling alot and apologise.
>>13945Tbh men kinda do the same for female interests.
Regardless this is why I say cishet relationships are semi-voluntary. Its all just following biological programming while still touting yourself as "above the animals".
>>13870>>13872Yea. This. sex and romance arent exactly the same. I know that feel. I have sex with some people but I dont really like them in a romantic sense.
Or I like them romantically but I wouldnt want sex with them.
People are too needy and arrogant in aphroditism.
>>13893This isnt exclusive to Gen Z so dont go into the patronisation here.
The real problem is the sense of entitlement for sex and relationships in modern society.
>>13921I wanted to write some more on this.
The heart is a strong muscle in a male's body, from the day of his birth its kept beating. His heart is pumping blood around his body, whilst every breath he takes is currently oxygenating his blood. Because of his amazing mind, he has chosen to put his hands on my shoulders. His mind has made his muscles contract, saturated with blood, from each breath he has taken and this amazing machine has saw fit to put his hands on me. Just to comfort me, all of these biological processes have come together so that I can feel happy. His heart, lungs, muscles and body. I know women have this too, of course, but there is something so powerful and carnal about a man and how his body works. I enjoy seeing my friends breath, just taking heavy breaths or moving around knowing that his strong heart is working overtime to keep his muscles in check. I'm a little autistic when it comes to the human body, and as stated before I am not a woman, but men are amazing. I like seeing them move or just sit down and breath. I wouldn't change most men for love nor money… In fact there is one thing, beards. I wish more men would grow their beards out, I love the male body so much. I love how it works, how it comes together how its so strong and fast and amazing.
Chubby buff, tall or short I don't care, black hair brown hair, blond hair, its all the same I think most men are wonderful people and amazing creatures.
>>13939unfortunately most cishet men will never appreciate the adoration given to them from cishomo men.
They will keep chasing after cishet women.
Cishet women can never really appreciate male quirks
>>13955I know… I also know we like to doompost, but it's never been a better time to be gay, most people are now open to experimenting with the same sex, most of my friends (thank you god for this) have done gay things we me, even now I cuddle and kiss and sometimes stay over at their houses and I am 26. I think the future is really bright for me, more and more men are open to doing things with me and considering I shoot, ride motorbikes, play games and I am terminally online I find myself able to talk to and support lots of people. The future is bright, we will see more leftism in our lives, more men will be open with me and things will get better, it only goes up from here! <3
>>13954>I wish more men would grow their beards out, I love the male body so much. I love how it works, how it comes together how its so strong and fast and amazing.Uggghhh.
I fucking hate the fetishisation of beards and body hair.
Why do androphiles do this?
Its like hyperboobs for gynophiles.
Favial hair is a shallow convenient signal for "masculinity".
Beards require good hygiene.
They itch and get dirt.
Theres a reason men shave.
I fucking hate machismo idealists equating hairlessness to femininity or immaturity.
Shows how cartoonish they are.
Same for hypermuscles or aggressive playacting.
Its annoying.
>>13960thats rich coming from an imageboard users.
Yall eavesdrop on strangers and internalise their dialogue to make threads/posts about why the world is going to shit.
>>13954But, can just a random 'men' suddenly shatter you and bring you into a wholeity constituting both you and him, where now the two parties form an utter dependence.
Such special magic might be work of a special one, I believe, can all the 'men' do that?
>>13965if you survive, you will for the rest of your life always feel the scar on your throat, and it hurts like hell(internally and externally) and after it's healed it will itch like hell forever. so don't do it, please?
>>13967same…
>>13972Yes, I want to die. That would be a good thing.
>>13973The possibility of surviving is the only thing putting me off doing it. If I had a surefire way to kill myself I would have done it years ago.
>>13974>If I had a surefire way to kill myself I would have done it years ago.same, but sometimes I get a glimpse of hope that things can
theoretically get better. I actually know of a suicide technique that is guaranteed to kill without fail
(but I'd only use it as a 'self-destruct button' if things do not go as planned) but I don't want to share it because I don't wanna see you die glownon , things can get better and less fucked, I believe that it's possible
>>13994Yes. I'm I'm 30+ and never had a gf like this guy:
>>13984I've went on dates a couple times and fucked once but never had a gf.
I made a joke a long time ago:
>They say you need time out of a relationship to get yo know yourself, I think my problem is I know myself too wellBut that's really it. I've been fine for 30 years without tying myself to some random person I only halfway like, why the fuck would I start now? I only want to date women who aren't looking to get married or move in with me or expect that I should dedicate my life to them anymore than I would any good friend.
>>13998I am sorry you have been hurt, I mean it. I don't know your situation or what happened in your life but the way you write is telling me something bad happened. I know you don't want my pitty though, but I am sorry.
I was the bpd anon from another thread, and I met a leftie man from 4chan and three days later I fell madly in love with him, and had a buring sensation in my heart becuase I craved him carnally and spiritually. I tried to hide it but it came out and I said I would murder his family if they ever tried to take him away, I went into a call and spilled my feelings at him.
I'm not a woman of course, I am 10 years his younger, but there are people who feel things strongly, and perhaps as strong as me. For what it is worth I hope you find a wife, and she cares about you as passionatly as I care about him. I wish you the best of luck.
>>13995I'm 38, I went out on my first date at 30. Should I even really want a relationship since if the laws of the universe are utterly broken and I get a gf she will inevitably (I'm not saying it is a morally bad thing) will have a much longer sexual history than me. Why did I have to be stuck like this for over 20 years? I don't think
any person on Earth is worth that wait.
>>14001Stop beating yourself up please, you are worth the wait… Most people here aside from the odd trolling and calling people uyghurs, are fantastic people, and I imagine you are too.
You should want a girfriend, and I hope you get one and hpefully one day a wife. Please don't let hopelessness set in. <3
>>14003Stop listening to harpies, your feelings, thoughts and emotions are valid. How many times do I need to scream this at people, everyone's thoughts are valid, you shouldn't just say people are bad becuase its going to galvanize their ideas, you need to ask why they think that… I feel like I am deranged and screaming at a wall.
>>14006I know you've probably told a million other people here, and you are sick of it… But can I ask you to explain further? What is going on?
>>14007Everyone is special, I mean it. No two people are alike, You aren't broken or wrong because you have been single since the 90s, these things just happen due to mentality. Please don't think of yourself as unlovable or beyond repair, you are a human being, ever changing and ever adapting, you aren't a sword broken and irreparable. You deserve to be happy like everyone else. I lack the articulate nature of an English student to properly convey my emotions and feelings to you. But, you are not a broken, poisoned explosive of a man waiting to go off. You are a man who is seeking someone.
>>14008>But can I ask you to explain further? What is going on?I have a very poor lifestyle which causes the depression and I'm a very lazy individual who cannot find the motivation to make positive changes to my life. It's a viscous cycle.
It's all my own fault and I know what I am doing wrong but thank you for taking the time to ask about it.
>>13998>>13997>>13995>>13994Romantic relationships are egocentric.
Nothing but neediness for sex and sympathy.
People feel like theyre entitled to your body and mind. All the while they are mediocre and plain-looking.
God forbid you tell them no.
>>14007Youre a rare type here.
Most others will curse their singleness
>>14013I'm too weak and can't handle confrontation or bullying, which is everywhere. I also have terrible social skills that do not improve with practice. I get immense anxiety about going to unfamiliar places. I am not cut out for being a functioning adult.
During adolescence there was a big change in my life which probably caused me some issues, this was also identified by a therapist I saw a while ago. Both of my parents have histories of mental illness too.
>>14018It was never meant for you then.
idk why peoppe are so morally obsesses with childhood socialisation.
At the end of the day, people only care about havibg a roof over theor heads, nice clothes, good food, and television/Internet.
>>14008Then can you explain if my opinions are wrong?
>>13992>>13988this is why my sympathy for couples/breeders decline as the yeaes go by
>>13990>>13985>why are men X, why are somen ZIm getting really tired of loaded questions like these.
It reeks of immaturity.
Just shut up and put up or dont play along with the charade.
>>14019>idk why peoppe are so morally obsesses with childhood socialisation.Because it's extremely important and critical to your development.
>At the end of the day, people only care about havibg a roof over theor heads, nice clothes, good food, and television/Internet.People also care about having social lives which is difficult if you didn't get proper socialization as a child and become inept as an adult.
>>14034I can understand the neuroplastic part but I mean overall, is it really worth obsessing over when most of your lifespan is spent by your lonesome?
If not physically but emotionally?
People whom are socially inept still have people thwy interact with frequently.
Most people, socially adapted or neglected, only have a select circle they fuck with.
Theyre completely blank to everyone else.
Even in childhood, social circles are already set.
In fact I think obsessing over "social skills" is part of problem with people nowadays.
>>14027If you have to ask, then youve been poisoned by gynocentrism.
Its ok to unmatch with a girl you find ugly in personality.
>>14035>People also care about having social lives which is difficult if you didn't get proper socialization as a child and become inept as an adult.Bruh, even properly socialised kids end up lonely as adults.
In fact, I think the obsession with socialising is part of the problem.
Again, people have their priorities fucked up.
"Muh social life".
Hang out with peoppe long enough and you realise theyre all mediocre and dont have much going on.
People think socialisation is gonna make their lives become an action-adventure story.
>>14044Anon it's all about your mindset. Say it with me:
>I DO deserve love>I DO deserve a soul mate>I DO deserve a fulfilling and well paying job>I DO deserve a nice house>I DO deserve a well funded 401k>I DO deserve a healthy revenue stream of passive income>I DO ….It's just classic lib "The Secret" NLP self-hypnosis shit. I mean there's probably some truth to it. You gotta BEE motivated.
Alright. I am posting this here and not on 4chan because I know he browses 4chan and I don't want him to see this.
Four or five days ago, I was speaking to an anon on 4chan about historical weapons, I rather enjoyed how autistic he was about them, as he was a wealth of information. Anyway, I found out he is fat and 34 years old. (I am a 26 year old zoomer, and rather sporty due to doing kendo) I added him on fbi.gov and we had a four hour conversation. Alot happened but, essentially he made me fall madly in love with him, by being kind, honest and talking about stupid hobbies of his, I couldn't stop talking to him, I actually couldn't I just wanted to see what he was saying at all times, and I didn't want to put my phone down.
I was getting obsessed with him, I will shamefully admit I erp-ed with him because I was desperate, I am shamefully going to admit he sent me pictures of his dripping cock and fat stomach and it made me go crazy with lust, I admitted I wanted to dress up as his waifu, and service him under the table whilst he plays DND with his friends, I wanted to know what his sperm tastes like and to suck his cock clean and swallow around his throat.
This was a bad/good idea as it made me feel a constant burning in my chest for him, it never stopped even when I had to do other things I wanted him, I gave into my feelings and admitted I wanted to kill his family so I could have him all to myself, I wanted to hurt and butcher his friends so I alone could have him and no one would ever dare take him away from me.
He, has a lot of power over me, and I didn't want to lie, to him he made me admit I think about suicide alot, and instantly clocked I have borderline personality disorder. I felt ashamed that he made me admit this, but he was supportive and promised never to leave me.
We erp-ed again, and he said for me to take the wheel… I gave into my thoughts and admit I wanted to murder his family, and tie him to a chair and mind break him, I went into detail about how I wanted to rape him and make him mine forever unable to say no. I hate to admit it, but it felt good to get all my bpd ideas od controlling him out, I enjoyed dominating him and how he acted like I was mind breaking him. He made me admit I like the idea of breaking him, so that he will never leave me, and making it so I was his entire world. I felt amazing in the moment but I… I did something silly in hind sight, I showed him my self harm scars on my arm, the fresh ones… I asked if he wanted me to cut myself for him. I and him are massive 40k fans and I cut the mark of chaos into my flesh and showed him.
He called me his "crazy insane, obsessive BPDemon tiger boyfriend" and it made me feel warm and fuzzy for the rest of the day, I was actually pacing around my room feeling ecstatic when he said this. But he did make me promise I would never injur myself again
I also really liked when he called me insane in the erp, I enjoyed how he was pretended to be scared of me and called me an insane crazy obsessive stalker boyfriend.
He has set boundaries for me, because I wanted to buy him gifts, I offered to buy him dominoes pizza, but he said no and that I was just caught up in my emotions for him. I was very clingy to him and started to mold myself around him, I was listening to his music and talk about his games… It felt good to mold myself around his likes I don't know why.
I have what he calls a "favourite person" relationship with him, which is as he says, my borderline affecting my perception of him, he has encouraged me to make friends on his fbi.gov server, and that if I want, we can stay in touch and see where our friendship goes.
Even writing this I have a burning hot feeling in my chest. I want him more than anything I have ever wanted in my life, this fat millennial has become someone I would maim and kill others for, I want him constantly and sharply. I want him in my life, in my bedroom in my bed, I want to wake up with his strong hairy arms around me and I want him for myself, and myself alone. I have very strong emotions for him that are making me write cringe love letters to him on fbi.gov at 3am.
I feel sick thinking about him, I want to grab him and never let him go, I want to make him mine forever. I didn't want to admit it, but I either want to be his waifu or if he denies me I want to tie him to chair and rape him. The borderline I have is making me cling to him for dear life.
He says its fine, and its just making me want him more and more and more. I dream about him
One more thing… I mentioned he had power over me, he forced me to show him my suicide plan and what I was going to use. I felt naked in the moment, and started to feel odd. He made me do something called a "grounding technique" which was where I essentially hugged my hoodie and do breathign exercises. It helped massivly but again, it added petrol to the fire and made me want him more. I cannot stop thinking about him, i wake up and secretly look over the messages he sent, I go to bed hugging my pillow thinking about him. I don't want this to end, but I am worried he is going to leave me constantly. I hate seeing him in fbi.gov calls with friends because of this
>>14050I wanted to write some more about this, I apologise if this is shitting up the thread.
This person knows about the chid abuse I suffered, he knows about my plan to execute myself, he knows about my self harm, and he is still here. I struggle with feeling either angry or hollow most days adn in the five days I have known him he has made me feel love, hapiness, joy, ectasty, I didn't think I could ever feel these. I went from feeling liek a shell of a person to feeling actual human feelings.
I get physically excited when I see that little red icon over his profile picture meaning he has messaged me. I feel nothing but joy when he says he lloves me. I need him more than I need food, orgininally I just liked the fact he was bigger an older but now I just want his soul. I want him eveything about him constantly.
I know some of this is borderline, but he has made me feel anything at all for once in my life, I don't feel like I am just a mind trapped in a hollow shell with him, peole feel other thiings and he makes me feel things.
Iwant him to be my boyfriend I wan tto marry him and spend everyday feleing his large hairy arms around me. I have so many desires and thoughts about him. It never stops. He keeps stopping mid converstion to reassure me he isn't going anywhere and to proove it he gave me his full fucking name and his location.
I use to hate other people I thought they were just animals out tohurt me, but this man has came into my life and shattered that illusion he is such a wonderful perfect human being and I am lucky to have ever found him. I feel like my chest is going to explode typing this.
>>13985>>14056>You could also say it just means men are less introspective about their motivationsIt's not introspection but post hoc rationalization. I've cheated a few times. I wanted to fuck multiple women, so I did. I don't feel any need to invent some list of things my partner did or didn't do to justify it to myself or others. That's spooked and manipulative.
>>13986>real relationship"Real relationships" in my 30s are boring as fuck and quite honestly feel superficial compared to fucking around in my 20s. I wish I could go back bros… it feels like everyone my age just wants some transactional bourgeois relation.
>>14060Thats the point of relationships.
Its all transactional.
Hell, even in ancient times, people fucked concubines.
Relationships are just there to ensure a stable social space to raise kids.
>>14064Unfortunately, anime characters are not real and therefore it is not possible for you to become one. Instead, I would suggest that you focus on fostering real connections and relationships with real people in your life, rather than fantasizing about being someone else.
I believe that humans are inherently complex and dynamic beings, and that we cannot easily reduce our lives and relationships to simplistic, one-dimensional characters or concepts. While the idea of being an anime character may seem appealing, as it can offer a sense of romance and adventure, it is important to remember that real relationships and human connection are far more complex and nuanced.
>>14063>Hell, even in ancient times, people fucked concubinesVgh vvhy can't vve retvrn to non-monogamy?
>Relationships are just there to ensure a stable social space to raise kidsThis is reductive thinking. Many people want a "relationship" without children these days.
>>14065Duh of course anime characters arent real.
Why else did I say "I wish"?
Of course this current socio-physical reality of human relations is complex amd nuanced but its not all that great.
People are mainly mediocre or ugly in personality, looks, and skillsets.
Also dont tell me to focus on real life romantic relationships with people over fictional ones. Fuck that shit.
Fiction is better for aphroditic drives.
You never have to worry about rape allegations, STDs, unplanned pregnancies, or just plain old bittersweet boredom.
Alot of our family dysfunction can be traced back to spousal fights.
>>14067>This is reductive thinking. Facts dont care about your feelings. Thìs is the truth. Relationships were about socialspace for child rearing and resouce/labor division.
>Many people want a "relationship" without children these days.Yet the average postboomer adult has a disturbingly small skillset and shittier social competency.
>>14070BL and GL ftw.
Remember how back in school, everybody mocked the anime-stans for loving on fictional characters?
Well, they had the right idea. Everyone else was dumb. Meatspace is no place for ideal love.
Meatspace is semi-good for sex but not even slightly good for romance.
If God offered you an anime reality in exchange for suicide, would you do it?
>>14071Need to moneymaxx a bit.
>>14074>If God offered you an anime reality in exchange for suicide, would you do it?In a heartbeat
>>14066This.
Fuck that meatspace moralist.
"Just focus on real life people for lov and romance".
Well, fuck you very much.
>>14075C,S, and M?
Are those sociobiological relatives of yours?
>>14079>>14079Why am I even hear all I am doing is shitting up the thread, leftists keep thinking that they cane that my mind can be fixed it can't my own mother didn't love me and left me to get abused what good can you all do? I am on leftypol because of S and I got swept up on Siberia because I like you all but I shouldn't be here, I feel worthless, I wish there was a way that I could draw blood and turn it into something useful for those three, I would rather be tinder for their fire that be here, in this body. I want S to wake up as a biological woman, she is trans and she hides it deep down but I know she hates herself, I never saw a reason to want to change gender but I need her to wake up with a pussy and tits. I need C to find a loving wife and find happiness, I need him to be secure in life and not have to suffer. I need M to never have to work and to find a husband to support him, if I could guarantee that God would give these three that I would go downstairs run cold water under this fucking cunt wrist and drag a blade under it. I am worthless and no matter how much people say "Oh bro you are worth it :)" I am here becuase my cunt dad forced my cunt mother to birth me. I don't want an anime paradise I want those three peoppe who were here in my darkest hour to wake up in their new body with their new wife and rich. I hate that I can't somehow magically sacrifice my life to get them these things. God if you are reading this she had two miscarriages before me, why did you make me for this? Why can't you just
let me die and secure those three in this life, they have been kind to me in my hours of need and you see fit to hurt them. Why am I even here, I should just sleep
>>14079>>14080this is a rare post. No whining about lack of teenage romance nor cushy desk jobs.
But rather about wanting your dearest friends to be stable and sound in life.
You my friend are a golden one.
>>14081I need you to answer somethin honestly.
Why am i alive? Why don't I feel anything?
Happy, sad, joyful what are these things? What THE FUCK ARE THEY?
I feel like a hollow vessel.
I really need help or I am going to hurt myself.
>>14088Either she is into you or scared of you or both
Also sort yourself out
>>14090>Either she is into you or scared of you or both60% attraction 40% fear I am guessing
>Also sort yourself outdont be a douche, had to celebrate with a friend since they were in town and it had been a while.
any actual advice?
>>14094lol try harder
>She was probably thinking about what kind of drugs you are on and whether to call security to hold you down or not.lmfao that's honestly what I thought until the end where she was slightly giddy at me
>>14093>it's not how any of this works.numbers are bullshit i agree
> Are you simple or something? this is honestly a case of mixed signals on both ends really, faggot retard
>No adviceget sodomized by a rusty hammer and gtfo
>>14088just fuck her and get it over with pussy
>>14104>>14103>>14102who are you to talking to schizo?
>>14088doctors are cunts
dont do it
>>14116Yep.
Most dating or parenting advice always talk about the other party in degrading manner.
Like theyre pets to be won over.
This is why all self respecting people never date nor procreate.
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