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Porky punching lumpens to get his kicks or class traitor who directly and indirectly helpi people?Also general capeshit thread i guess
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>>24355
>never forget that they co-opted black panther title and literally made it as a movie with a CIA agent being as one of the good guys
picrel

Recently i watched deadpool, because people kept telling me how good it was and not like other superhero movies

It was steaming garbage and exactly like all other superhero movies. People have shit taste.

>>24357
and in the end, they open a starbucks or some shit in the name of the guy they kill

basically liberal monument shit, that effectively doesn't do much

>le charity

>>24359
Didn't they like literally give basketball shoes to poor black kids in the inner city?

Harvey Dent. Can he be trusted?

>>24352
I think the bigger problem is that capeshit movies are used as philosophy material for adult consumers. There's alot of video essays talking about any superhero movies and how "they reflect the state of society".
Then, there's grown men arguing about comic book consistency and other shit.
They're too lazy to read ACTUAL philosophy/politics books.

It's just entertainment consumed by millennial manchildren to "relieve the stress of adulting".

>>24362
Gonna be real and say capeshit has been so thoroughly mocked that that's not really true anymore

>>24363
I beg to differ. Capeshit is mocked but also taken religiously.
Children's entertainment in general is being hijacked and botched by adults.
So much so, that kids whom enjoy any specific shows are labelled red flags.
Post-boomer politics is a very dark road of arrested development.

>>24355

Found it, despite YouTube's shitty, dysfunctional algorithm making me have to search for it several times over.

>>24363
No dude, mockery just makes people dig their heels in harder. Centuries of dunking on christianity and religion in general didn't make people realize it's cringe. They think that the fact that you don't like it is evidence that it is to be taken seriously.

>>24364
>Children's entertainment in general is being hijacked and botched by adults.
Uh, are the children supposed to be making kids' entertainment?

>>24365
oh shit i was an absolute retard and didn't realize you were asking me for the video, my bad anon lol

>>24365
also 1000% agree about youtube's fucking retarded algorithm. I can search the EXACT title of the video I want and it will still list 10 unrelated videos first just because they're trending/made by Youtube Partners

>>19388
>>19334
Decent continuation but some of the episodes got TOO capeshitty

RIP Kevin Conroy

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>>31071
Goddamn, and I had to find out from some random tweet too

>>31071
Rip. He was my favorite batman

I think him being rich was just an afterthought to explain why he's able to afford all this tech gear he has and his batcave and is a reflection of the mindset of people in time he originated. This is why he doesnt use his money to help people directly through lobbying to change power. Sometimes it gets highlighted and other times downplayed or subverted. So i dont think it's inherent since there is different depictions of Batman.

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>>24361
It's a coin toss.

Wrong interpretation.
Batman is, for lack of a better word, incredibly “mentally ill” and is under the delusion he’s making the world a better place by punching other mentally ill people who often times have much less money. It’s not surprising that DC made a number of his nemeses psychologists; Hugo Strange and Harley Quinn are notable examples. Other characters have often noted he has an odd pathological obsession with stopping criminals stemming from trauma, and that any moral posturing he makes is typically superficial. It’s evident he could do much more good as Bruce Wayne and simply let Superman clean up Gotham.

>>32342
This is more or less true depending on the version. Usually it doesn't get that much exposition and despite being angsty or whatever Batman is treated as unambiguously in the right.

were any of them right?

>>36129
Bane basically. Now the reason why it's portrayed as so chaotically is because Nolan is a liberal and so he portrayed the revolution as total chaos. There were interesting concepts like the people's tribune with scarecrow acting as judge who by the way judged cops.. I mean think about that. Also that scene where an army of cops fights a whole bunch of people that may or may not be Bane's soldiers. In any case Batman brought back the status quo by leading cops to crush a revolution. Let me remind you that even people like that police chief weren't attacked and stayed home with their family until Bats showed up and basically galvanized them to attack Bane's revolution which btw ended up with a bunch of dead cops so even Batman got a bunch of cops killed by getting them to go out there and crush a revolution lol.

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>>36130
I mean if you wanted to do the whole entire revolution thing you could use Anarky. He's a bit more of unknown batman villain as he only appears, outside of the comics, in Arkham Origins and one batman cartoon show. You could make it either portray batman in a more negative light or a straight up villian whose methods are counter productive to his goals, ie ridding Gotham of crime.

No because writing any source of nuance, character complexity or compelling motivation is well beyond Nolans abilities. I think the reason Joker become so iconic, other than Ledgers performance, is the fact he is just an insane person who does evil for shit and giggles, and thus couldnt be ruined by bad writing.

>>36129
>Ras al ghoul
Based. Struck at the heart of the capitalist system. Literally used fear bombs to make the pigs afraid.
>Bane
Based. Established dictatorship of the proletariat. He was to nuke the pigs, so he would have been the most based.
>Joker
Based. He wasn't crazy or evil. He wanted freedom. Society shaped him into what he was and that is why he wanted to destroy it. He understood that destroying is easy and fixing society is utopian.
>Two Face
Based. The bourgeois lawyer wasted his life upholding the status quo and it blew up in his face. He understood that, then embraced chaos and freedom from the Joker's teachings. He is a vulgar materialist: the coin decides, not subjective morality/law.
>the rest
Cringe.

>>36133
What about Catwoman stealing from the rich?

>>36133
in the nolan movies joker explicitly doesn't want anything, he's a crazy person with no past and no relation to gotham. he's more like a force of nature and that's why batman must use the superpower of violating everyone's rights with his immense wealth in order to stop him

>>36135
He does want one thing though, to prove to the world that his perspective is correct that deep down everyone is like him.

>>36133
Ras al Ghul was literally just Thanos snapping Gotham for consooming too many resources.

>>36137
I think your confusing his comic version of with the movie version.

>>36130
Bane made the most emse to me. Especially with his saying that hope and despair go hanf in hand.

His logic behind taking over Gotham was genius.

Joker is good but his edgelord antics are overfocused on as a virtue.
I do admire his orchestration of his crimes, though.

>>36130
Don't forget Batman is literally a billionaire. Bane was so right that the only way Nolan could make him evil was by having him want to blow up the city out of spite

>>36140
You know what ypure right.

Wayne Industries is a billion dollar i dustry. Youd thibk with all that money he'd at least buy out Gotham forces and make the city safer.

>>36138
In the movie he says they were there every time civilization got too big to reset it.
3 minutes into this video

Two-face
Because he's the only person who sees the impersonality of fate, as opposed to justifying savagery as "part of the system" like a liberal, or as "human nature" like the joker.
The joker manufactures chaos, whereas two-face embroils himself within the design of his own game with the coin flip

>>36143
Is two face the ubermensch, a man who has created his own moral system?

>>36144
No, he is still spooked by the spectre of "chaos", and only picks on easy targets.
For example, if he lined up people of all classes (like thanos) and rolled a dice to see who died that would be more "fair", but again, who gets to hold the gun? At least harvey holds it against his own head.
The ubermensch in transvaluating all values wouldnt be so fixated on "justice" but his own means of creating a new type of world

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>>36129
>were any of them right?
They all had a point, but being "right" is iffy. I wrote about this in >>5158
All the main and remembered villains are intentionally flawed in their logic and actions because they're either chaotic like Joker, corruptive like the Mafia or populists like Bane, and any other sort in between, with Two-Face being a schizo that - once his attempt as Dent to work within the system fails and he loses Dawes - he just goes to complete anarchy and decides things based on luck and chance; through coinflip. Anne Hathaway's Cat Woman was unremarkable and forgettable in these films and people trying to label the dislike of her character as "muh misogynist fans" clearly don't remember Tim Burton's Batman Return's where Michelle Pfieffer killed her murdering Boss and was a femme fatale to remember and love. Ras Al Ghul was an anarchist, but his plan was shit. Fine, the porky's literally kill each other in fear, but so will the ordinary proletariat, men and women will kill one another, kill their children, and themselves out of fear. That's horrific and an utter non-solution.
Scarecrow was just an insane asshole happy to create chaos for The League of Shadows.
Talia was annoying because it took away from Bane's character and his motivations and made him a pawn, playing a role.

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>>36142
Reading his page makes him sympathetic… if but for his plan being essentially "eradicate Gotham City". It's typical - the villain has a point about the social ills of the world, so to keep them a villain their solution is a horrific plan or action, or attitude.
https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Ra%27s_al_Ghul_(Nolanverse)

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>>1316
The post this was replying to is deleted ITT so I'll link to the compilation post of the Dindu Thread >>13193

>>32342
he is a furfag that larps as a bat, of course he is mentally ill.

>>37260
>He's a furfag
How lol? Animal motifs =/= furry you internet poisoned silly anon

>>932
>Porky punching lumpens to get his kicks or class traitor who directly and indirectly helpi people?

Depends on the version you're talking about

>Miller, Burton, Nolan

Porky punching people

>pattinson movie, animated series

class traitor

>Adam West

silly fanciful lad

>>24362
Eh, like any commodified pop fiction genre, it varies. Most of it is slop but there's some occasional gems in there

>>24342
Honestly? It's one of the better cape movies to have come out. The script isn't without its flaws (The third act is kind of rushed and comes out of nowhere) but for what it is, it's pretty well-made. I enjoyed it a lot more than most capeshit

I just realized Batman is a terrorist. More specifically in Dark Knight. He goes to a totally different country and abducts a citizen. No due process, Habeas corpus none of that. Not to mention breaking multiple international laws. Whats more is the legal system of Gotham just runs with it. I get thats he's a vigilante, but that was basically just international terrorism.

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The fact that many people here want superheros to act like all knowing all powerful good dictators who change the fabric of society to combat crime is pretty ridiculous.

>>45487
I want them to be the people's dictators like in Miracle Man

Absolute Batman, finally a working class Batman.

>>45486
Trump did the same with soulimani (can't bother to check the spelling) and he's not an international terrorist. Batman is a rich MF from the imperial core. He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
>>36133
I think a nice thing about these type of "villains" is that revolutionary movements tend to be filled with people like this. People want a pure revolution filled with angels of light, its religious thinking. Revolutions are messy and contradictory. Innocent people get murdered and massive ideological mistakes justify retarded backwards shit. Not only that, these people are rebels without any real theory or training. They run on pure emotion and feels or religious zeal. It's citizens rising up to the tyranny imposed by the likes of Bruce Wayne et al.


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