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>>2609101Remember to filter mass tor baiters, feds, and trollsNot reporting is bourgeoisViolators will be launched from trebuchetfLoOd DeTeCtEd PoSt DiScArDeD Reminder that reading to your kids gives them an unfair advantage against other kids
>>2612149Just don't have kids then
Reminder that an American communist who does not place the complete and immediate dismantlement of NaTO as his top priority is no communist at all
Reminder that opposing the annexation of Greenland into multiethnic, diverse America means affirming the right of the Aryan Danes to rule over the mongoloid Greenlanders.
bout time for you yanks to wear a bunch of orange shit and color revolution yourselves.
Reminder that the average Russian peasant was a superstitious backward bumpkin which praised the tzar and the class conscious proletariat was the minority and they still won.
>>2612151>complete dismantlement of NATO as top priorityyes, good
>immediatenot in anyone's wildest fantasy will that happen immediately. even if we were 100x more organized than currently
>>2612156because they leveraged help from the bumpkins
Sell fent laced heroin, molly, and cocaine to Americans, the richer they are the better
>>2612166Not when they took over the cities.
>>2612170well with the cities they leveraged help from the soldiers, including the officers
>>2612168so this is what lenin-sama meant by illegal tactics…
>>2612153umm, sir, we already had the orange revolution, there's a god dang cheeto in the white house
>>2612171Other way around. First they defended the cities (like Moscow) before they could reach the front. The officers weren't sympathetic to the movement, and had to be force to comply. That's why there were so many purges during the creation of the red army. The worker-peasant alliance is Lenin's quick-thinking, not some combination once and for all.
>>2612177>The worker-peasant alliance is Lenin's quick-thinking, not some combination once and for all.which is funny that it remains the enduring symbol of communism.
>| 15 replies | 1 images | Page 1 >>2612179whoops i guess i highlighted the text at the bottom of the thread when trying to quote
>>2612145what in the name of jeebus
>>2612182"I'm just like Dalton Trumbo" he cries with glee as he goes through child sex slaves like toilet paper.
>>2612182So fucked this douchbag can just keep publishing articles and going on interviews. He’s even worst than trump at hiding his guilt.
>>2612186>. He’s even worst than trump at hiding his guilt.and he's supposed to be a lawyer lmfao
>>2612184(dalton trumbo was a screenwriter blacklisted during mccarthyism, i feel the need to clarify because it also sounds like a made up name a shitlib would use on donald trump(
honkoid status?
>>2612151My top priority currently is getting deeper into theory so I have a better idea of what to do and where to go without someone else directing me.
>>2612156Hey, here's a question, how many communist revolutions have actually happened in capitalist states, as Marx predicted, as opposed to backward feudal socities?
>>2612176I hate how "orange man bad" is considered a soyish joke to make. He is bad, and he is fucking orange.
>>2612192>as Marx predictedWhen and where? Cite the work.
>>2612192>Hey, here's a question, how many communist revolutions have actually happened in capitalist states, as Marx predicted, as opposed to backward feudal socitiesboth russia and china were semi-capitalist, semi-feudal
but to answer your question:
>Germany (1918–1919) Spartacist uprising (failed)>Hungary (1919) – Soviet Republic lasted ~4 months>Italy (1919–1920) – factory occupations, no revolution>Finland (1918) – civil war, communists lost>France, UK, US – socialist movements but no revolutions >>2612192>My top priority currently is getting deeper into theory so I have a better idea of what to do and where to go without someone else directing me.use the MIA playlist from the OP unironically
>>2612105I will say this: Mamdani getting elected at the very least signals a leftward shift in American politics. Ten years ago, even a Demsoc like him would've been considered way too "radical" to get anywhere here.
>>2612196I'll check it out, but I generally learn better through text. Got any suggestions on that end?
>>2612192>>2612196sorry, MAI, Movimiento-Anti-Imperialista, they came up with the reading list originally, but it's a playlist from Socialism 4 All. It's the Marxism-Leninism Study GUide:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXUFLW8t2sntNn5jQO8vF7ai9x0fna3PV >>2612188The movie about him with Brian Cranston is pretty good from what I remember, but yeah it does sound like a made up name for trump lol
for the record this thread was made when the old thread had 604 posts but then GODerators removed like 40 pieces of slop from ban evaders and routine enablers.
>>2612182This unironically makes me seethe. Comparing pedo maggots to political violence against communist.
>>2612210I hope she's right but I think she's not. Too many Americans want a scapegoat they can punch down at.
>>2612198>I generally learn better through text. Got any suggestions on that end?every one of the videos in the study guide playlist links to the original text in the description
>>2612210>>2612210Yes that would be good it would complicate the theil agenda but the dems winning is just buisness as usual and that couldnt continue
>>2612210>nuke the electoral prospects of the republican party.this is only good if it also happens to dems. can't have eternal democrat brunch
>>2612214>>2612215We need more of a win than buisness as usual
>>2612214Both parties depend on the other and the two-party system remaining in place, so one party going down would be devastating to the other.
>>2612219True, im just worried about how easy dissent can be styfiled with all the survielence we have now
>>2612212Thanks. I know there's a lot of great Marxist literature out there, but it's hard to find a good starting point.
Merry KKKrismas
>>2612251>the fictional birth of a fictional character who is a coward pacifist who proceeded to destroy any economic progress the roman's granted and nearly destroyed humanityFTFY, fuck christ
>>2612253My man's wearing a crown. 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
>>2612252>the fictional birth of a fictional characterMost historians agree that Jesus was a real person.
>a coward pacifist whoThere's nothing cowardly about allowing yourself to be crucified. In fact I'd say that insisting on pacifism against an enemy as brutally violent as the Romans requires near-suicidal bravery.
>proceeded to destroy any economic progress the roman's grantedWtf are you even referring to here? How did Christianity destroy economic progress in the Roman Empire?
There is no template for North America, you have to start over from scratch and there is no time to do so, we’re doomed
So what's your favourite war hammer, anons?
>>2612257Removing the noses from statues cost GDP or something or whatever I don’t fucking care
>>2612261And what has Mexican independence done for anyone? Hosting the useless Spanish republicans
>>2612259Ghal Maraz of course
>>2612263It means i wasnt born in a spanish colony
>>2612261Truthnuke. The son of a carpenter, a refugee born in a stable. Associate of anti-imperialist agitators, prostitutes, working people, slaves and beggars. Feared and hated by kings, imperial governors, and priests. Enemy of the rich and the money lenders. The story of Jesus when boiled down to its core essentials is that of a premodern utopian communist revolutionary not unlike the Diggers. With the political power of the church essentially broken, there's absolutely no reason for edgelord anti-theism. We're talking about a story and belief system which naturally lends itself to socialist politics, and it would be beyond foolish to not use it in this way.
>>2612266You get to be governed by MORENA, which is definitely different from PSOE I swear
>>2612267Completely coopted by the empire he supposedly hated, making him an oppressor
>>2612271That happened 300 years after his death
>>2612270I live in america lmao (i wish we jad shinebaum here)
>>2612273So what? If you can be coopted you already have and it’s your fault
>>2612274Hell I’d settle for Pedro Sanchez
>>2612271>During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.t. Lenin
>>2612257it destroyed economic progress by making a society obsessed with a nonsensical religion that resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths and a reversion (albeit in some cases) to pre-agricultural living for more than a century
>>2612277And Lenin is on t shirts now and there’s a Guuci store across the street from his mausoleum
>>2612278>that resulted in hundreds of millions of deaths and a reversion (albeit in some cases) to pre-agricultural living for more than a centuryHow did it result in any of that stuff?
>>2612280European colonization
>>2612280if you collapse about every trading network, and remove most specialists in a society, it tends to cause tens of millions of deaths, what we have of that time period sounds almost post-apocalyptic, because it was, i don't care if you love jesus or not but you have to admit the costs are greater the rewards, many cultures (including one that i'm from) were either obliterated by christian missionaries or heavily damaged by it
>>2612284He’s not charismatic or cool like Hugo Chavez, I don’t care that it means I’m contributing to the CIA narrative it’s true
>>2612281Do you really think that Christianity was the cause of that and not just the pre-existing ideological superstructure? All it did was provide justification for material incentives, and those justifications would have been made with or without Christianity. The Romans had already done everything the Spanish or other colonizers had done well before Christianity ever came along. In the Gallic Wars Caesar talks openly about wiping out entire tribes, slaughtering the men and selling the women and children into slavery. They even settled conquered lands with Romans in an early example of settler colonialism. In fact the clergy and religious communities more broadly were basically the only source of serious opposition to the bloody excesses of later European colonialism. Bartholomew De Las Casas is a great example, or the Quakers being the first abolitionists in America. Blaming Christianity for colonialism is intensely idealist.
>>2612282Why do the "antiimperialists" come after people in this thread fot litterally anything and say nothing when actaul reactionaires show up like this guy who is praising the roman and the spanish empires
Merry KKKristmas to all Amerikkkan KKKrackers in the imperial KKKore.
>>2612282>if you collapse about every trading network, and remove most specialists in a society, it tends to cause tens of millions of deathsHow did Christianity cause that? It sounds like you're somehow blaming it for things that were caused by the Germanic and Hunnic invasions.
>>2612285I think he's both of those things.
>>2612291Post one funny Maduro quip
>>2612282>were either obliterated by christian missionaries or heavily damaged by itI'm not praising institutionalized religion, I'm saying that the story of Jesus is revolutionary and that socialist should be making use of this.
>>2612293Socialists have no use for pacifist nonsense
Fuck carpenters
>>2612290it collapsed precisely because of the social effects adopting christianity had, which accelerated the results of already existing failures in these societies
>>2612287>bro you're praising le roman empire and the spanish empirei'm saying that the collapse of the roman empire was an objectively bad thing because it ended up causing the reactionary mode of production of "feudalism" to replace it instead
>>2612293the story of jesus is a reactionary tale, it teaches nothing but timid pacifism and to be used and abused, to submit to those above you, precisely because the religion was invented with this in mind, there is absolutely no revolutionary value in a reactionary religion, nor a reactionary myth like the story of jesus
Jesus can suck my fucking dick
>>2612297no one said this
>>2612296The slave economy had worse conditions than fuedalism slaves were expendable, you could always buy more after they were worked to death. Not with serfs
>>2612297You have to revise christianity so much to come to this conclusion that it might as well not even count, it’s like attributing Tetris to socialism because it happened under perestroika
At least Mohammad had sex and conquered shit, what did Jesus ever do? Fucking pussy
>>2612300the roman economy largely worked as a mercantile economy, and also just because "conditions were le worse?" wouldn't mean that it wasn't an upgrade on average, as simply put the average technologies there were far above the medieval period until after the colonization of the americas, in which such wealth could be extracted at an unbelievable pace and get europe back on track, for example cities exceeded their roman-era populations because of this, and the process of industrialization could start
>>2612294Jesus was a pacifist but Christianity is not. Revolution = just war.
>>2612296>it collapsed precisely because of the social effects adopting christianity hadSounds like idealism. What exactly were these social effects?
>it teaches nothing but timid pacifism and to be used and abused, to submit to those above youIt teaches that Imperial overlords, landowners, money lenders, and kings are your enemy. That only the poor and working people can be the source of justice. It calls for common ownership of property. Combined with the doctrine of Just War it's essentially a call for revolution, and this was how it was received by the Diggers, Nat Turner, John Brown, etc.
>>2612305I've heard people who say they considered Rome to be an early form of Capitalism, which is interesting if true.
>>2612305>the average technologies there were far above the medieval periodThat definitely isn't true. It's a myth that the middle ages were backwards compared to antiquity in any significant way apart from maybe the lower level of centralization. On the whole techniques of metallurgy, agriculture, manufacturing, mathematics, etc underwent significant advances during the middle ages prior to 1492.
>>2612306Jesus followers were armed
If Jesus were real I’d fucking kill him right now, he wouldn’t even do anything
>ugh i forgive you my son
<I DON’T
Stab stab stab
>>2612311He also beat the money lenders and drove them from the temple.
>>2612306>Sounds like idealism. What exactly were these social effects?is the adoption of a new system, in which subordination was no longer to the state itself, but to a largely independent religious authority "le idealism"? the effects in question were that every process had been accelerated due to the aformentioned subordination.
>It teaches that Imperial overlords, landowners, money lenders, and kings are your enemyblatantly not true, you can take these from the gospel of matthew but overall, in mark, luke and john, the overwhelming theme is of defiance not to an empire, but to a local puppet of the empire, while at the same time admiring the noble romans compared to the "corrupt" jews of the day, this is a religion that teaches nothing but cowardice and submission, only in matthew could you find anything like what you talk about, we need to stop pretending christianity is a revolutionary religion and whatnot, it just isn't, never was, and never will be
>>2612309it's not a myth by any reasoning, if you look at it in some linear sense, it does look like things "improved" prior to 1492, yet the average person underwent a significant decrease in quality of life, life expectancy and in general lived under worse governance than even the worst excesses of the roman period, just ask yourself a simple question like, was it better for the median person in 1350, rather than in 350?
>>2612316>is the adoption of a new system, in which subordination was no longer to the state itself, but to a largely independent religious authority That's not accurate. By the time the Roman Empire adopted Christianity the church and state were definitely not separate entities. Even before that Constantine was weighing in and influencing the outcome of theological debates and political conflicts within the church. The popes took on the title of Pontifex Maximus which was a state appointment dating back to the Roman Republic. Religious piety and obedience to the state were very much intertwined, and this was deliberately cultivated and enforced by the Roman Emperors.
>this is a religion that teaches nothing but cowardice and submissionAgain, there's nothing cowardly about non-violent resistance. In fact it takes tremendous bravery to confront an armed enemy when you are unarmed. We can debate the effectiveness of these tactics, but cowardly it is not. As for submission, that's clearly not the case. Even absent the more blatantly radical stuff Jesus was rebelling against the authority of his day which is why he was killed.
>we need to stop pretending christianity is a revolutionary religion and whatnot, it just isn't, never was, and never will beIf that were true it wouldn't have inspired revolutionary movements. The fact that it did proves that there are readings and interpretations of it that have revolutionary content.
>>2612319You could say the same thing about Buddhism or Islam it doesn’t fucking matter
>>2612321I know a lot less about those but if socialists can use religion to their advantage then they absolutely should.
>>2612323You can’t even get on a school board
Someone recently asked me if I cried. I told him no. Instinctively, naturally. After all, it's not masculine to cry. It's not something you want to put on to your image. Oh yes, I sob in the shower every night! It sounds pathetic. You and I both know this to be true. To be this militant pillar, and to cry? It seems like blaspemy, or betrayal. But I do cry, not often, scarcely relating to feelings about myself, but I do sob. I did sob. I sobbed over the man who overdosed on the street corner. Who had 12 police officers who could not, nor would do anything more than question his friend in order to find something arrestable. He probably hit is head on the way down, he probably won't be quite the same after that. I cry for the woman who rushed to apply narcan to him, so to save his life. That's an emotional burden laden upon her. They did not know each other. See something, do something. How could I not, after 6 or 7 drinks, come to tears with the struggles pressed upon my people? Our people. Working class people. I bet that man had dreams. Had a lot of things he wanted to do. A lot of things what weren't "get the next hit on the street corner", but in this capitalist game? That's what people are brought to. But yet it's unmasculine to cry. Unmasculine to weep. Perhaps even unmasculine to imagine a better future wherein the man overdosing on the street is treated like a human being, and not an animal best to be put down. "At least that's not me". A circle, a spiral to the bottom. Nothingness, abyss. "Empathy is our greatest weakness" - Elon Musk. If that is what the capitalist believes to be our greatest weakness, then motherfucker it's got to be our greatest strength. Am I not supposed to be empathic for the crack addicted mother, carrying her second child, asking simply for food for the night? Am I supposed to lose all solidarity with the man overdosing, if only to believe I am fundementally better than he? I am not, we are the same, regardless of who is applying the narcan.
So yes, I do cry. Not out of weakness, or out of an inability to cope with the material conditions that surround me, but because this is the only way to reclaim what they have taken from us. Our humanity, our dignity, and our fighting spirit. I weep over the man who overdosed because I know that he is just another fighting in this class war, even if he does not realize it. If that makes me weak, or less of a man to the capitalist and his true-believers, so be it. They will soon see how a man wages war on his oppressor irregardless.
>>2612312But dont forget. He was also a zombie and 100ft tall.
>>2612312What the fuck does this accomplish? Glowfaggot.
>>2612337Catharsis after being raised in christfag hypocrite culture that’s what
>>2612334we got you man, hope you feeling better. merry xmas man
>>2612293>muh jesus hard pass
cant we have christian socialism
>>2612355Because of who owns and operates it and what it's being used for.
>>2612356And how it’s being operated
>>2612267and yet there were actual rebels against the Romans who died at Fort Masada and we don't talk about them 1/10000th as much as we talk about the Prince of Peace who was crucified for everyone's sins. And the outlook of Jesus is ultimately to wait for salvation in the next life instead of fight for it in this one. The problem is it fundamentally presupposes an afterlife which is the reward for pacifism, patience, love, and dutiful fear. With that as a main tenet, it is hard to organize revolutionary ideology around Christianity, though it has been done before. But it always comes across as self contradictory. Islam on the other hand doesn't mind revolutionary militancy, because Muhammad was a warrior, not a prince of peace. This is not to claim that any abrahamic religion, or religion in general, has merits over materialism. You just have to be careful when "using" religion "strategically" since religious people will very quickly see through your attempt to "use them" when they realize you are a materialist who does not ultimately believe in any of the same supernatural principles that they do.
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>>2612357By extracting profit through increasingly expensive and less featured subscription models
>>2612355me personally, its a waste of freshwater with nasty air pollution
>>2612356>>2612357>>2612355currently, AI is basically just silicon crop-burning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_destructionNVidia is currently giving out loans to other companies to buy up their silicon AI chips, far above and beyond the actual demand for AI usage. then they're turning around and buying up the excess AI capacity so they can say demand for their downstream product is very high. This gets used to drive up investment money.
The end result is a produce that makes very little anyone wants while consuming vast amounts of resources.
The only actual thing that AI boom is producing is tools for mass surveillance state.
>>2612375CPUSA had a peak membership of approx 70 000. The Communist Party in England had a similar peak too. Those of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand do not even have one worh remembering the name.
The irrelevant CPUSA gets talked too much here. Let's be honest, there are only two options for you folks here (atleast for the next 10 years):
1. Do nothing.
2. Vote Democrat.
>>2612376Might as well blow your brains out, at least you’re denying the country your dollars that way
>>2612381You’re gonna die in a shootout with the cops and be forgotten in a week
Merry Christmas.
>>2612376We can build trade union consciousness at the very least. Maybe. At least the people around me in work and life seem very atomized and focused slowly on themselves in the immediate present. I don't know what to do about that.
>>2612383It’s been 140 years, when are you gonna give this shit up?
Report on the USApol Christmas Congress 2025 25.12.2025
Workers, Farmers, Intellectuals - comrades!
As you are all aware, yesterday I took it upon myself to conduct a direct democracy with the USApol masses. I stuck with the matter ferociously for hours, collecting the input from diverse anons, attracting both sympathy and ire. I am now presenting this report to summarise the conclusions.
Objective : to establish a Party line, to clearly define the concrete measures to be taken today.
Conclusions drawn from the testimony of various anons:
1. Armed insurrection of the proletariat is undeniably impossible in America. This was stressed by all anons and contradicted by no one.
2. The electoral route is an illusion. Nothing will come out of it. Suprisingly, I admit, no anon defended the conventional social-democratic position of gaining incremental victories via bourgeois elections.
3. Direct action such as general strikes is impossible due to the absence of a central body which coordinates the mass of workers over the whole country (similar to the CGT in France).
4. American bourgeoisie cannot be defeated within, but neither can we hope an American defeat from outside because of the nuclear threat.
Upon reception of these positions, I had to push the anons of USApol for more. I had understood what they do not believe to work, but they were yet to affirm what does work. Unfortunately for all of us here, many flatly stated that there is nothing we can do. Indeed, comrades, nihilism has completely taken hold of the USApol vanguard.
But perhaps worse of all, at my insistence of giving the semblance of a beginning of a course of action to move forward, most anons preferred to gossip about Zohran, about soem essay in Oklahoma, about sending people Job Application forms. It seems to me anons purposefully chose to be enraged by obvious bait and engage them in long discussions rather than give a simple, straightforward answer to my queries.
Bottom line : (i) USApollers' lives, while far from perfect, are nowhere desperate enough to rouse them into action and risk everything.
(ii) While nominally in solidarity with the victoms of US imperialism abroad, USApollars generally do not care to do anything about it. They have a rather Protestant reflex of switching the responsibily on the maimed themselves, and reassert that they personally are not members od the Army and they personally are not occupying any lands.
It is my shame to conclude such a report with no conclusion at all. There is not even the shell of a praxis. Trolls who accuse the USApollers of succumbing to the vote blue for eternity are no trolls at all. Objectively, they are correct.
It’s not nihilism, it’s an accurate reading of reality
>>2612386Consider the possibility that nihilism
is an accurate reading of reality.
>>2612387It’s accurate insofar as there is no God or cosmic central authority to derive any inherent meaning in life from, you, the individual, have to create meaning for yourself whether that’s in individual or collective ways
>>2612385At last, a true Communist has come to this website. I hope they never manage to ban you, chagosposter.
I’m not going to jail for your sake, if that makes me a coward, so be it. Nothing I do that would get me in jail would make a difference or challenge the system, politics doesn’t exist here and every breath I take is robbing oxygen from actual HUMANS that deserve it.
>>2612384Give what up? I don't even know what to do at this moment, though I think my greatest hurdle is being an isolated, socially inept autist rather than anything else.
>>2612391The whole trade union thing, there’s not a single international trade union despite there being international corporations and supply chains
>>2612385If I pay for your flight you can come and kill me, how about that?
>>2612393I fail to understand how this can bring about socialism in America, comrade.
>>2612389Thank you dearest comrade. I hope you were around yesterday when we were discussing
what is to be done.
>>2612394You get one more American out of the way
>>2612397I still do not see how this helps the establishment of socialism in America.
Socialism in America will
need breathing, smiling Americans. Not dead Americans.
>>2612398No it doesn’t, we all need to die, the land completely empty, it’s the land itself that’s the problem, it’s cursed, anyone that stays here becomes a monster
>>2612402That is backwards superstition I'm afraid.
Stand tall comrade. Millions will not die. Millions will socialise.
>>2612404It hasn’t happened despite dozens of wars, economic downturns, pandemics, even the most advanced struggles were neutered and ended up incorporating minorities into imperialism. Why the fuck would it happen now?
>>2612392Ironically I've felt that labor unions must above all else think internationally. It is the only way forward.
>>2612411They must, but they refuse entirely, not a single one is even organized across an entire continent let alone globally
>>2612414I just want it all to end
>>2612408You made the mistake to think the minorities were against imperialism to begin with. Your lovey-dovey attitude towards Huey Newton makes you generalise the BP to the whole minority activism thing. The BP were a tiny minority. The real civil rights movements which actually won did not give a shit about imperialism (beyond some vague opposition to the Vietnam war probs), they just wanted to sit at the same table as the other americans.
>>2612413Well then I will work to change that. I just need to figure out how to unionize my workplace first.
https://genius.com/Gil-scott-heron-comment-1-annotated
<In a 1970 spoken-word poem off his debut album Small Talk at 125th and Lenox, musician Gil Scott-Heron takes aim at the (predominantly white) student movement and its claim to represent “radical” change. He pours cold water on the idea that there could be a meaningful alliance between the white New Left and radical organizations of color, because middle-class and upper-class whites are simply incapable of understanding the struggles of the poor and disadvantaged.
<Billionaire Nazi Rapper Kanye West sampled this song in “Who Will Survive In America”, ending the album with the same message as GSH didPoem here says, "Comment #1"
Uh, "Comment #2" is dynamite
But "Comment #1" is the one we decided
To use here this evening
Because it makes a comment if you listen
Closely on what is now being advertised
In East Harlem as the "Rainbow Conspiracy" –
A combination of The Students For A Democratic Society,
The Black Panthers, and the Young Lords
And this is my particular comment about that conspiracy
"Comment #1":
The time is in the street, you know
Us living as we do, upside down
And the new word to have is "Revolution"
People don't even want to hear the preacher spill or spiel
Because God's hole card has been thoroughly piqued
And America is now blood and tears, instead of milk and honey
The youngsters who were programmed to continue fucking up
Woke up one night digging Paul Revere and Nat Turner as the good guys
America stripped for bed and we had not all yet closed our eyes
The signs of Truth were tattooed across her often-entered vagina
We learned, to our amazement, the untold tale of scandal
Two long centuries buried in a musty vault
Hosed down daily with a gagging perfume
America was a bastard,
Te illegitimate daughter of the Mother country
Whose legs were then spread around the world
And a rapist, known as Freedom – "Free Doom"
Democracy, Liberty, and Justice
Were revolutionary code names that preceded
The bubbling, bubbling, bubbling, bubbling, bubbling
In the Mother country's crotch
And, behold! A baby girl was born
Nurtured by slave-holders and whitey racists
It grew and grew and grew!
Screwing indiscriminately
Like mother, like daughter
Everything unplagued by her madame Mother
The present mocks us
Good Black people, with keen memories, set fire to the bastards
Who ask us in a whisper to melt and integrate
Young, very young, teeny-bopping revolt-on-weekend young
Dig by proxy what a mental ass-kicking they receive
Through institutionalized everything
And vomit up slogans to stay out of Vietnam
They seek to hide their relationship with the world's prostitute
Alienating themselves from everything except dirt and money
With long hair, grime, and dope
To camo-hide the things that cannot be hidden
They become runaway children
To walk the streets downtown
With everyday Black people sitting on the curb, crying
Because we know that they will go back home
With a clear conscience and a college degree
The irony of it all, of course
Is when a pale face S.D.S. motherfucker dares look hurt
When I tell him to go find his own revolution
He wonders why I tell him
That America's revolution will not be the melting pot, but the toilet bowl
He is fighting for legalized smoke, or lower voting age
Less lip from his generation gap, and fucking in the street
Where is my parallel to that?
All I want is a good home, and a wife, and a children
And some food to feed them every night
Back goes pale-face to basics
Does Little Orphan Annie have a natural?
Do Sluggo's kinks make him a refugee from Mandingo?
What does Webster's say about soul?
I say – you silly trite motherfucker, your great grandfather
Tied a ball and chain to my balls
And bounced me through a cotton field
While I lived in an unflushable toilet bowl
And now you want me to help you overthrow what?!
The only Truth that can be delivered to a four year revolutionary
With a hole card, i.e. skin, is this:
"Fuck up what you can, in the name of
Piggy Wallace, Dickless Nixon, and Spiro Agnew
Leave Brother Cleaver and Brother Malcolm alone, please
After all is said and done, build a new route to China, if they'll have you" >>2612420Good fucking luck, you’re dedicating yourself to herding cats
>>2612417Comrade! It is not compulsory to be a communist (a lable which i am more and more doubtful of its meaning), if you feel crushed and jaded by it all, stay away from the political space! There is no shame in prioritising one's health. Music, sports, literature, movies etc: stimulate your mind with non-political things. The immortal science of Marxism Leninism can get too heavy for our petty human brains, I admit, I myself fell into long despair a few times.
Regain your health comrade! You have a long beautiful life in front of you!
>>2612422It's either that or perish.
>>2612423Doing those things while benefiting from imperialism makes me literally worse than Hitler, America has 10x the casualty rate as Nazi Germany but with none of the “regret” or introspection. The problem is that nothing works and the haute bourgeois would kill everyone in the world with nuclear weapons if they were even slightly threatened, they’ll probably just accidentally do it during a particularly bad ketamine binge. The only tactic available is waiting with a white flag of surrender to the PLA who will never come.
>>2612425
Okay so that leaves PSL, Revcom (trots), and Revcom (Bob Avakian), who do we work with?
>>2612430Felix (I'm 99% sure it's him) won't tell you what party to actually join. All he will do is say America must be destroyed and to read Joe Slovo's and Vo Nguyen Giap's revolutionary tactics.
Marx should have never written anything, the only people that actually read Marx or any other critic are the bourgeois who use theory to preemptively counter literally any possible avenue
The fact that Marx and Engels are available in your local and especially university libraries should tell you everything
>>2612421this dude is the OG "grew up middle class but LARPs as poor" black celebrity
his radicalizing moment was going to a private school and being upset that the white students were richer than him, lol
>>2612355Im not sure how to feel about AI yet. Hundreds of billions have been invested into it this year, and the results are not worth this amount of money.
Maybe im blind to the posibilities, but to me all this money could be used in better ways.
(AI images are funny sometimes)
>>2612436The fact that he still continued his career after learning this makes me suspicious of Hudson ngl
I mean isn’t the existence of this website proof that the bourgeois aren’t even afraid of these supposedly revolutionary ideas?
>>2612445It means that Marx and Engels don’t threaten them at all
>>2612447correct, marx and engels don't threaten them, people
doing marxism threaten them.
>>2612449If that were true we would already be at war with China, we’re not and it’s all hot air
>>2611862CPUSA fails to adhere to Stalin bicameralism, planning to keep both chambers of congress functionally the same.
>The creation of two chambers is regarded as inexpedient, and it is proposed that the Soviet of Nationalities be abolished. I think that this amendment is also wrong. A single-chamber system would be better than a dual-chamber system if the U.S.S.R. were a single‑nation state. But the U.S.S.R. is not a single‑nation state. The U.S.S.R., as we know, is a multi-national state. We have a supreme body in which are represented the common interests of all the working people of the U.S.S.R. irrespective of nationality. This is the Soviet of the Union. But in addition to common interests, the nationalities of the U.S.S.R. have their particular, specific interests, connected with their specific national characteristics. Can these specific interests be ignored? No, they cannot. Do we need a special supreme body to reflect precisely these specific interests? Unquestionably, we do. There can be no doubt that without such a body it would be impossible to administer a multi-national state like the U.S.S.R. Such a body is the second chamber, the Soviet of Nationalities of the U.S.S.R.Nowhere does CPUSA speak of creating soviet of nationalities. CPUSA conceptualizes ameriKa not as the Great Satan that exploits the endo-neocolonial nations, but a "republik to be 'rekonstituted'." CPUSA upholds pathetic, slow bourgeois bicameralism.
https://www.cpusa.org/article/bill-of-rights-socialism-and-the-future-of-the-republic/>Bill of Rights Socialism deepens the theory of the mixed constitution and gives it a proletarian character. Rather than calling for the abolition of the senate as such, Bill of Rights Socialism recognizes the need to reconstitute the republic along proletarian class lines, transforming the current senate founded on the “wisdom” of slave owners and oligarchs into an “industrial” senate that is instead based on the wisdom and experience of the leaders of the working class.Stalin use Communist bicameralism to smash russian imperialism and uplift oppressed people. CPUSA suppress national question and promote fascist utopia of syndicalist bicameralism
>This essay is only a theoretical sketch to show the consistency between Marxism-Leninism and the “core ideas” of the republican political tradition. There are an almost limitless number of questions that arise from its premise: Can a workers’ republic be secured through the amendment process or through a new Constitutional Convention? How exactly should an industrial senate be ordered and secured? Should it be through indirect election, sortition (selection by lottery), selection, or a combination? How does federalism fit into this picture?They admit many "limitless" antagonistic contradictions of their fascist plan. CPUSA is chauvinist amerikan exceptionalist corporatist party who uphold extant bourgeois bicameral form and federal endo-neo-colonial system and propose syndicalist undemocratic fascist Chamber of Fasces and Corporations.
>>2612452How about PSL, Worker’s Wordl, Revcoms? We’re all through with CPUSA and DSA
>>2612445>given that very few people in Russia will read it, and even fewer will understand itoh boy! only few understood but how well did they understand it!
>>2612423>treatlerite propagandanot real chagosposter
>>2612455you can verify with my tripcode that it is actually me!
>>2612456wut
you don't have a tripcode
>>2612457can't you see the !blYJpNtps next to my name?
>>2612454Too bad they virtually all died during the Great Patriotic War
>>2612450>If that were true we would already be at war with Chinayou misunderstand the situation entirely. for 50 years the western bourgeoisie's hope was to turn china into a full blown capitalist country by outsourcing production to them and incentivizing foreign direct investment. some of the western left say that the western bourgeoisie achieved that, but if you listen to the western bourgeoisie talk among themselves, they are panicking. Marco Rubio, Republican, said "China has figured out how to use Capitalism against us." and Hillary Clinton, Democrat, said "China is a controlled, top-down economy, you will never compete and win against them unless you take back the means of production." There is also panic about how, even though their naval fleet is still much smaller than ours, their shipbuilding capacity has far outpaced ours, meaning that in a decade or two, perhaps sooner, they will have more aircraft carriers than us. Their population is also quadruple America's population. So after 50 years of free trade being the prevailing wisdom, the American bourgeoisie are reverting to 19th century protectionism, tariffs, proxy wars, and regional power politics. Taiwan, where even the Kuomintang now want reunification is propping up the entire AI bubble by making Nvidia's chips. So the biggest stock market bubble in the history of capitalism is tied up in Taiwan, which is undergoing a political crisis where the US and China compete over the future of reunification with the mainland, and that competition may culminate in a naval war in the South China Sea. The USA stole a Chinese oil tanker which was bringing oil from Venezuela back to China, the other day, literally doing piracy to Chinese sailors.
Things are heating up, FAST. War with China by 2030 is literally Hegseth and Rubio's goal, because after that the US's strategic advantages will be mostly gone.
>>2612461i think the goal here is siege warfare. starve them out. prevent entry to their ports. the US military stole a chinese oil tanker.
>>2612410subhuman wigger, if he wants to be chinese he will not even mention
🦶
"praying" to
🦶
"god"
>>2612463That’s what every sanction has been since election of comrade Hugo, it doesn’t work but doing an actual invasion and regime change would require a draft, which the American people are literally too crippled by soft treatler lives even if they wanted to. They can’t risk doing it Qaddafi style either because you could end up with ELN or Tupamaros or Gulf Clan swooping in and filling the vacuum. Almost 70 years you had the same thing with Cuba. The common thread between them is that al lot of the people who would make a domestic opposition have left.
>>2612467the sanctions didn't work which is why we have escalated to straight up piracy lol
>>2612460AI is just another crisis you can force the public to pay for if unification happens, capitalism thrives in crisis, crisis is how it rejuvenates
>>2612468It’s an escalation, a fucking scary one, but I don’t think they can actually afford to go all the way
>>2612466it's a figure of speech my sibling in science
>>2612458tbqh no the theme i had on made it hard to read it, switching theme made it more obvious
>>2612460>some of the western left say that the western bourgeoisie achieved that, but if you listen to the western bourgeoisie talk among themselves, they are panicking. not necessarily a contradiction. There is some issue in the fact that communists and capitalists can have goals that aren't directly opposed along certain axes
>>2612460Also the bourgeois are idiots, they misread the situation, the scawy China in their heads is the product of orientalist paranoia.
wassuuuuuup you fucking treatlers
There’s only one thing anyone cares about, it’s gas prices, gas gets more expensive the further Venezuela gets destabilized.
>>2612478Truly neoliberal atomization (and American totalitarianism) will be the death of us all.
>>2612480Actually in this instance it might force us to back down
>>2612435>>2612470> I don’t think they can actually afford to go all the wayyet they could afford to mobilize a huge naval fleet to sit around in the Caribbean leaking fuel and feeding troops
I shamefully ask 5 minutes of your Christmas and humbly request you comrades to take a look at the Report in
>>2612385 and medidate on its consequences.
<The US naval fleet in the Caribbean currently includes about 11 warships and approximately 15,000 troops, which consists of around 2,200 Marines as part of a significant military buildup in the region. This deployment is part of Operation Southern Spear, aimed at addressing drug trafficking and tensions regime change with Venezuela.
Chat, can Nicolas CHADVRO take out 15,000 yanqui pigs?
Whose fucking bright idea was it to put all the microchip manufacturing in taiwan? Whose cock did Chiang Ching-kuo have to suck?
>>2612484Look man, navy’s got to justify its budget lest the long arm of austerity finally come for the military
Why do mods absolutely refuse to make a /420/ board here?
It pains me to see the 420refugees wandering the desert like biblical Israelites.
>>2612485All true but I shan’t be voting, gonna boycott the election like 60% of the country already does, ideally the fewer the better, it might finally force the military coup that’s been inevitable since the creation of the arms industry with WWII.
>>2612491You create a war and physically destroy all the capital, a bunch of the commodities and most proles and boom, you just start over again.
>>2612489/siberia/ is already kind of a spiritual 420chan
>>2612385>1. Armed insurrection of the proletariat is undeniably impossible in America. This was stressed by all anons and contradicted by no one.Pretty sure the real iron felix, erik houdini, and a few other americans on here believe in armed insurrection, with maybe some nuance between them on how to achieve that.
>2. The electoral route is an illusion. Nothing will come out of it. Suprisingly, I admit, no anon defended the conventional social-democratic position of gaining incremental victories via bourgeois elections.I heard that, for Leninism, the point of elections isn't to change things or even to win, but to use election itself as an opportunity to push a communist message while also doing a mixture of legal and illegal tactics, to prepare for armed insurrection.
>3. Direct action such as general strikes is impossible due to the absence of a central body which coordinates the mass of workers over the whole country (similar to the CGT in France). it's impossible right now but I think steps can be taken to make it possible. the problem is the urgency created by the US backed genocides and climate change and imperialism means we don't have infinite time to get good at this game.
>4. American bourgeoisie cannot be defeated within, but neither can we hope an American defeat from outside because of the nuclear threat.I think the American bourgeoisie can and must be defeated from within.
>Upon reception of these positions, I had to push the anons of USApol for more. I had understood what they do not believe to work, but they were yet to affirm what does work. Unfortunately for all of us here, many flatly stated that there is nothing we can do. Indeed, comrades, nihilism has completely taken hold of the USApol vanguard. I saw one very persistently nihilist anon in the previous thread but I think most of us disagree with him.
>But perhaps worse of all, at my insistence of giving the semblance of a beginning of a course of action to move forward, most anons preferred to gossip about Zohran, about soem essay in Oklahoma, about sending people Job Application forms. It seems to me anons purposefully chose to be enraged by obvious bait and engage them in long discussions rather than give a simple, straightforward answer to my queries. imageboards are very low quality forums for serious discussion , unfortunately, their only advantage is anonymity, which is an illusion anyway
>(i) USApollers' lives, while far from perfect, are nowhere desperate enough to rouse them into action and risk everything.that will change, but will it change fast enough is the question
>(ii) While nominally in solidarity with the victoms of US imperialism abroad, USApollars generally do not care to do anything about it. They have a rather Protestant reflex of switching the responsibily on the maimed themselves, and reassert that they personally are not members od the Army and they personally are not occupying any lands.i agree that americans should do more, but me simply agreeing is obviously not enough.
>It is my shame to conclude such a report with no conclusion at all. There is not even the shell of a praxis. Trolls who accuse the USApollers of succumbing to the vote blue for eternity are no trolls at all. Objectively, they are correct.But earlier you said
<Suprisingly, I admit, no anon defended the conventional social-democratic position of gaining incremental victories via bourgeois elections. >>2612492yes that is what rajani palme dutt describes in fascism and social revolution, chapter 3, the section titled the deliberate destruction of the productive forces (a piece of theory I shill nonstop on here, but which nobody seems to read, even though it is very short), but that process has diminishing returns. no process or strategy is infinitely repeatable or infinitely sustainable, even the processes and strategies of our very powerful enemies.
>>2612485I have responded in another post above
>>2612385>voluntarismHoly shit, mods, MODS, BAN THIS MAN NOW!
>>2612497It took more than a thousand years of feudalism to advance toward capitalism, if you can even call feudalism a mode of production it’s a very hotly debated topic among medievalists. Most of it because euros were forced to sail around the Ottoman empire to avoid jizya. It’s probably going to be similar with capitalism despite seemingly rapid technological and social change, the bourgeois know how to completely control their proletariat. The reason revolutionary literature is even available is because they’re so incredibly confident, and they should be, there is a few dozen international industrial and financial cartels and not a single international or industrial union anywhere in the world.
laura loomer is a top tier milf
>>2612505You need to see a sex therapist
>>2612505Anon, please, you're clearly drunk and high on fentanyl.
>>2612509You can’t mix opiates and alcohol and post, you can’t even do that and breathe
>>2612145>i don't like that we are not a majority white countrywho's we? you're jewish laura!!!!!! they're not gonna spare you!!! you're not in the cluuuuuuub!!!!
>>2612504> if you can even call feudalism a mode of production it’s a very hotly debated topic among medievalistscontemporary medievalists, while they know more about the daily life of medieval europeans than marx did, tend to have bourgeois political biases which is why they deny the entire framework of modes of production in the first place. they don't subscribe to a historical materialist outlook. They mostly relegate themselves to analyzing interpersonal interactions, local features, superstructure, royal figures, dynasties, sigils, banners, weapons, armor, clothes, guilds, artisans, ranks, martial arts, and other things that nerdy people find interesting. They refuse to engage with the abstraction of a mode of production. I enjoyed listening to Dr. Eleanor Janega and other medievalists but I don't agree with the analysis that feudalism wasn't a mode of production. At all. Surplus labor and surplus product is real, and the primary way it is appropriated constitutes a mode of production.
>>2612354>El melhor telefon del mundo, UN JUAWEITim Cook on suicide watch
apple hoes seething and coping
Xibros winning
>>2612513Part of the issue (which Marx addresses) is that feudalism had an incredibly complex class structure that was subject to so many local variances that it can be hard to pin down. That’s why he carved out the whole “oriental mode of production” for China and precolonial India.
>>2612518Capital is still in University libraries and has been for over 100 years, it’s not fucking happening
>>2612459>Too bad they virtually all died during the Great Patriotic War??? The Great Patriotic War was WW2. That mostly killed drafted soldiers, many of whom had never touched a copy of Capital and weren't CPSU members. If you're looking for a historical event that killed a lot of people who read Capital, behold 1938
some will say they deserved it for being revisionists, which, OK, just keep in mind that even communists labeled "revisionist" and purged by a party which still ended up revisionist anyway, are still more revolutionary than the general population, and the narcissism of small differences may be communism's greatest undoing >>2612524shut the fuck up trotskyite holy shit
EVERYONE shut the fuck up
>>2612523the white right in this country is going to keep reinventing itself. in the 00s they were all in on the GWOT, but by 2016 they were all pretending to be doves to beat the warmonger clinton. and now that DJT has revealed himself to be israel's strongest soldier, they're distancing themselves from the "soy" aspects of the GOP, i.e. the multiracial reactionary politics, and going all in on wignat BS, hence Loomer's complaining in the OP vid.
>>2612529that is historical materialism on display
if only the dying left could 'keep reinventing itslef'
>>2612527i'm not a trotskyist, and I'm not wrong. the 'great patriotic war" AKA WW2 did not kill "virtually all" of the people who read and understood Marx in the USSR. WW2 mostly killed drafted soldiers who weren't CPSU members and had no special interest in Marx beyond the average Soviet citizen . You'd have to be delusional to think otherwise. Random WW2 draftees were not vanguard party members. I gave the purge as an example not because I think purging revisionists is wrong, but because that is obejctively an event much closer to what anon (you?) was characterizing WW2 as.
>>2612529The issue is going all in on wignat is going to lose them suburban votes, the only votes that matter
>>2612531well anon, that may be historical materialism, but most people like consistency, and they notice when you keep changing and betraying your stated principles from one year to the next in order to win. I suppose wielding power is inherently hypocrtiical and sociopathic.
>>2612533suburbanites are often very racist, but it even then they don't matter as much as you think. the illusion of bourgeois democracy is falling apart.
>>2612534That’s why we desperately need to select politicians by sortition instead of election or appointment, it has to be like jury duty
>>2612536Racialized minorities also live in the suburbs now
>>2612536Does it even matter? Do they even need the illusion at this point? Most people would probably react to a military coup with a shrug and punch into work
>>2612538people dodge jury duty at all costs, including me. the world belongs to those who show up.
>>2612539Oh god, 'racialised'. I thought the 'peuple racisé' nonsense existed only in France.
>>2612539Yes, they do. Also notice I said "often," not "always." Not all suburbanites are racist, and not all suburbanites are white, but enough are that I reject the thesis that "winning the suburban vote" is sufficient motivation for the right to avoid wignat politics.
>>2612543You will be a politician for three months and there will be a gun to the back of your head the entire time, we’ve already seen the alternative and it’s worse
>>2612544They got it from us and the spanish
>>2612546Enough racists still don’t like the aesthetics of shouting the n slur or hitlerite imagery for it to play. Everything is in the hands of the military anyway the just refuse to acknowledge it.
>>2612555>Enough racists still don’t like the aesthetics of shouting the n slur or hitlerite imagery for it to play.hypernormalization has been taking care of that quite easily. Twitter became /pol/ in a matter of 2 years. Loomer laughably drops every slur in the book in the OP vid to "prove" how "icky" and "unpalatable" saying "bad words" is to the "normie voter" but even she is playing her part in the hypernormalization, whether she realizes or not, and she's a genocidal maniac herself, language aside.
>>2612554You alternate between being the guy with the gun and the politician, both positions chosen by sortition, that way it accurately reflects the will of the population
>>2612557we all know her coochie got wet saying the n word over and over again
>>2612558>You alternate between being the guy with the gun and the politician, both positions chosen by sortition,who controls the sortition? There's always a potentially-rigged, non-random endpoint to any "lottery" process.
>>2612557That’s all online though, and again, the military will step in if it all gets too messy
>>2612564> the military will step in if it all gets too messythe military junta may be more reactionary than whoever they replace
>>2612563Fair critique, it would need to be something completely open source and transparent but everyone would have to be educated enough to catch rigging and stop it immediately, not sure we’re ever getting there
>>2612566But more honest at the end of the day, the cognitive dissonance will be less, no one has to keep pretending they live in a democracy anymore.
We will win
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⡿⣽⢯⣞⣯⣟⢷⡯⣿⢽⣻⡽⢯⣷⢻⣗⣯⣿⢶⡿⣯⣟⡿⣾⣟⢾⣹⣭⢷⣫⢷⣫⠷⣽⡺⣵⢯⣳⢯⣛⣮⢟⣽⡳⢯⡷⣝⡷⣺⡽⣞⣷⣿⣙⢧⠄⡀⣿⣦⡀⠐⠘⠛⠉⠀⠧⢃⡾⣼⢴⣿⣿⣼⣿⣿⣼⣧⢫⠾⠟⣫⡟⣼⣷⡷⣤⠐⠉⠀⠿⢿⣿⢿⣞⣷⣻⢾⣽⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⡿⣽⢾⡽⣞⡾⣯⡽⣞⣯⢷⣻⡟⣾⣻⣞⣿⣞⣯⣽⣻⢷⣭⡓⠯⣯⣗⡾⣫⣗⢯⣳⢟⣧⡟⣧⡟⣧⢿⣹⡞⣯⠾⣝⡿⣼⢻⣼⡳⢯⣟⣾⣿⡫⢞⣰⠍⠉⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠁⠉⠉⠉⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠉⣟⡽⠓⠂⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿⢾⣽⣻⣞⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⡿⣽⣏⡿⣽⣽⣳⠿⣽⣞⣯⢷⣻⢷⡿⠚⠁⠀⠈⢁⡿⣏⡾⣽⢦⡈⠻⣵⣟⡾⣭⢷⣛⣮⡽⣳⡽⣽⣚⣧⠿⣭⢿⣹⢾⣹⢯⣶⢻⣟⡾⣽⣿⡵⣯⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠈⢋⣶⣶⣿⢷⡶⡿⢭⣿⣻⣞⡷⣯⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣳⢯⣟⡷⣾⡽⣻⢷⣛⣾⣻⡿⠏⠀⠀⠀⠀⢶⡿⣽⢯⡽⣞⡯⣟⣄⠈⠻⣻⡽⢾⣹⢮⢷⣏⡷⣏⣷⢫⣿⣹⠾⣭⠷⣯⢷⡞⣟⡾⣽⣿⣿⢧⣟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠰⣌⠙⢷⣍⠻⠻⠷⣿⣿⢾⣽⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣷⢯⣟⡾⣽⣳⢿⡽⣯⣟⡾⣽⢷⣄⠀⣠⣶⡄⠀⠙⢿⡾⣝⣳⢯⣽⢻⡆⠀⢹⣻⢯⡽⣛⣮⢷⣫⡽⣞⣻⢶⣫⢿⣹⢯⣛⡾⣽⣏⡿⣽⣿⣿⣾⡏⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠰⡹⣆⠙⠿⣿⣯⠩⣷⣿⡿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣯⣟⡾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⢯⣟⡿⣽⣳⢿⡷⣄⠀⠙⢯⣟⣯⣞⡯⣷⠀⠀⣿⣳⣻⠽⣞⣳⢯⣗⡯⣷⣫⡽⣏⡷⣯⣻⢽⡶⢯⡿⣽⣿⣿⡯⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⡕⢕⠀⠸⣿⣽⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⢾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣏⡿⡾⣽⣳⢯⣷⢻⣟⣧⡄⠀⠈⠻⣾⡷⡟⠀⢀⣿⣳⡽⣻⣭⢟⡾⣞⡽⡶⣏⡷⣯⠷⣏⡷⣯⣻⢯⣟⣷⣿⣿⠗⠀⣀⣶⣾⣶⣤⣤⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣤⣶⣶⣶⣾⣶⣦⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠐⠆⠀⢊⣽⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣻⢾⡽⣯⣟⡷⣯⢿⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⢷⡯⠟⢾⣟⡾⣳⡟⣷⣀⠀⠈⠛⠁⠀⣸⡷⣏⣷⣻⡼⣯⢷⣏⣟⡷⢯⣟⣞⡿⣹⣽⣳⡽⣻⢾⣽⣿⣿⠁⠀⡿⠃⠀⣀⣈⣉⠛⠻⠟⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠴⣾⡿⠟⢛⣋⢉⣉⡁⠉⠛⠻⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠓⠲⣶⡷⠌⢹⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣯⢿⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣻⢾⡽⣯⢷⠟⠁⢀⣦⡀⠈⠙⠳⠿⠽⠯⠓⠀⠀⠀⠰⣿⢿⡽⢾⣵⡻⢧⣟⡾⡽⣞⣟⣮⡽⣾⢽⡶⢯⡽⣯⣟⣾⣿⡿⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⣷⣷⡾⢽⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠠⣿⣴⣶⣷⣖⣶⣦⣭⣓⣦⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢾⣯⣓⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣻⢾⡽⣯⣟⡷⣯⣟⣿⠞⠁⢀⣴⣿⣻⣟⣶⣤⣄⣀⣀⣀⣀⣤⣶⣄⠀⠈⠻⣽⣻⢶⣻⢟⡾⣝⣿⣹⣞⣧⢿⡽⣾⣹⢯⣟⣷⣻⣾⣿⡇⠀⠀⠠⠋⠉⠉⠉⠀⣤⣿⠛⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⣍⠉⠉⠁⠈⠉⠉⠻⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣳⢶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⡿⣯⣟⡷⣯⣟⡷⣯⢿⣤⣴⢿⣻⢾⡵⣞⡷⢯⣞⡿⡽⣯⠿⣝⡿⢾⣷⣤⣾⣳⢯⡟⣧⢿⣽⣫⢶⣻⡼⣞⣟⣾⢳⡯⣟⡾⣞⣷⣯⣶⠇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠻⠷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡙⣂⢉⣉⡉⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⢾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣻⢾⡽⣯⢯⣷⣻⣽⢻⣟⡾⣽⣻⣵⣻⢯⣟⣻⣼⣳⢯⡷⢯⣿⣹⢯⡶⣯⣟⣳⢿⣹⣞⡾⢯⡽⣯⣽⢿⣿⢼⣿⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⢾⠙⣿⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣳⣯⢿⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣞⢿⣶⣛⣾⣻⠾⣽⣳⠿⣼⢯⡷⢯⣷⣳⢯⣷⢻⣟⡾⣭⣟⢷⣻⡼⣯⣟⣳⢯⣟⣯⣟⢷⣯⣟⣿⣿⢹⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢷⣆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣄⠀⢻⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣟⡾⣽⣻⣞⡷⣯⣟⡾⣭⢿⡽⣯⢶⣯⣟⣶⣻⢮⡷⣾⣝⣻⢮⣟⡾⣽⣳⢯⣟⡾⢯⡷⣏⣿⣛⡾⣽⣫⡽⣾⣝⣿⣿⣽⢪⡁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⡟⠠⣴⣄⠀⣠⣠⡄⣠⣦⣄⣸⣿⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⡆⠸⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡿⣽⣳⣟⡾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⢯⣟⣾⣻⢶⣻⣞⣭⣟⣷⢻⡾⣽⣛⡾⣽⣳⢯⣟⡾⣽⢯⣷⣻⠾⣝⣻⣗⣯⢟⣷⣻⣞⣿⡾⡟⠆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⡰⠋⠀⠀⠈⡁⡀⣛⡿⢴⡦⠄⠀⡁⠈⠻⣿⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡾⠿⢁⢆⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣽⣟⡷⣯⣟⡷⣯⢿⣽⣻⢾⡽⣶⢯⣟⣧⣟⡾⣽⣞⣯⣽⣳⢯⣟⡷⢯⣟⡾⣽⣫⣟⡶⣯⢿⣽⣳⢾⣭⣟⣾⣳⢯⣿⣷⡍⢎⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠐⢀⣴⣶⢹⡾⢟⣇⣿⣷⢸⡶⣑⢿⢽⣶⢳⣠⡉⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠁⠀⢎⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⢿⣾⣟⡷⣯⢿⣽⣻⢾⡽⣯⣟⣾⣻⣞⣧⢿⣽⣳⣞⣷⣫⣽⣻⢮⣟⡿⢾⣽⣳⣟⡾⣽⣏⡿⣞⣽⣻⢮⣟⡶⣯⣟⣿⣿⡝⢺⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣟⡶⣻⡟⣪⣳⣿⣿⣷⣻⡽⡗⣷⣳⣼⣼⣽⣆⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣿⣿⣟⣾⡿⣽⣻⢾⡽⣯⢿⣵⣻⣞⡷⣽⣞⡿⣮⢷⣻⢮⡷⢯⣷⣻⢾⣽⣻⡞⣷⢾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⠾⣽⣛⡾⣽⣳⣟⣾⣿⣿⣾⡄⢣⣀⣠⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣿⣿⣟⢿⣽⣧⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣿⣶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣟⣿⣽⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⣻⣿⣾⣟⣯⣿⢿⡽⣯⢿⣽⣻⣞⡷⣯⣟⡷⣯⡽⣯⢿⣹⢯⣟⡿⣞⣽⣻⢮⣷⣻⣽⡻⣞⣽⣻⢾⣽⣻⠷⣯⣟⣷⣻⣞⣷⣻⣿⣿⣟⠈⠛⠻⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠉⠁⠀⣠⠄⠄⠴⡼⠹⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠖⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣯⣷⣿⣿⣻⣿⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣿⢿⣷⣿⣻⣿⣽⢿⣻⣽⣟⣾⣳⢯⣟⡷⣯⣽⣳⢿⡽⣯⣟⣻⢾⣽⣻⢾⡽⣻⣞⢷⣳⢿⡽⣾⢽⣯⣞⣷⣻⢷⣻⣼⣳⣟⣾⣳⢿⣿⣿⠃⠀⠀⢠⢈⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⢐⣲⣥⣺⣿⣷⣷⡃⠀⠀⠈⠁⠀⠈⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⣟⣷⣿⣯⣿⣽⣿⣿⢿⣯⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣾⣿⣟⣿⣽⡷⣿⢿⣻⣷⢿⡾⣽⣻⢾⣽⣳⢯⡿⣽⣞⡷⣯⣟⣯⢾⣽⣳⣟⡷⣯⢿⡽⣯⣻⡽⣞⣧⣟⡾⣽⢯⡷⢯⡷⣞⡷⣯⣟⣿⣿⣏⣐⠠⠀⠂⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠉⠉⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⢿⣽⡿⣿⣻⣷⣿⣻⣿⣽⣾⣿⣿⣿
⣿⣿⣿⣻⣯⣿⣯⣿⣟⣿⢿⣻⣽⣿⣻⢷⣯⣟⡾⣽⢯⣟⡷⣯⣟⡷⣾⣽⣻⣞⡷⣾⡽⣯⣟⣾⣳⢯⡿⣽⢾⡽⣽⢯⡿⣽⢯⡿⣽⣛⣷⣻⢾⣿⣿⣖⠒⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣻⣯⣿⣟⣿⣽⡿⣿⣽⣿⡿⣿⣿⣿
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>>2612385It's pretty clear people here just get very mad and upset when their nihilism and defeatism is called into question. The motto of usapol should be "there is nothing to be done"
>>2612570Show me any evidence communism can be established here, I’ll wait
>>2612505>Plastic surgery = Milf Sad this is the case these days.
>>2612566The Military would be reactionary but not white nationalist type racists considering how multi racial it is.
>>2612570I would not mind the intra-American nihilism so much comrade, but that nihilism does not affect only Americans. As a non-American African man, this nihilism effectively means tacit and passive approval and continuation of American imperialism, which tortures poor, stupid, ugly people like myself.
How evil are the Gods to tie our liberation with a People who insist that nothing can be done?
Is the only way to lead a decent life for the African man is to move to America?
Should we burn all Red Flags already and start applying for jobs in Palantir?
>>2612570>peopleit's just this dude
>>2612571 and you guys pretend he's everyone and make everyone answer for him
>>2612573You can just scam Americans online and get a USD income that would go way further in Africa, you can use that to build proletarian institutions in Africa and eventually become the new China, selling manufactured goods to treatlerite markets until you’re the new superpower
>>2612576Comrade. Kindly go through yesterday's USApol thread and see what kind of answers I got.
My report in
>>2612385 took into account ALL responses I got.
Now, if many anons preferred to talk about Ms Rachel joining Zohran, or the Christian essay in Oklahoma, that is beyond my grasp.
Maybe the Oklahoma essay is central to the cause of Socialism in America, maybe I am too stupid to understand that.
>>2612571Case and point. Immediately he's frothing at the mouth to proudly and loudly exclaim there is nothing to be done
>>2612573I know Chagos Poster, it's very frustrating. But also remember we are on an anonymous image board, which is naturally going to cultivate an atmosphere of nihilist doomerism. We can hope that there are at least some Americans out there who are actually willing to do stuff. From what I gather they're quite a proactive people those yanks
>Is the only way to lead a decent life for the African man is to move to America?I would suggest moving to Europe rather than the US if you want a decent life
>>2612579It is really not my intention to be rude, respected comrade, but I find your understanding of imperialism to be quite naive.
>>2612576It's not just him, many anons were exclaiming similar sentiments. If it's not applicable to you then there's no need to feel called out no? No need to act so indignant
>>2612584Just show me the evidence, where is it? It’s certainly not in the CPUSA (the party that somehow still has international connections) nor the DSA (minor democrat caucus and FBI honeypot)
>>2612585I’m probably going to be forced to learn if the neocon idiots decide to actually draft people to Nigeria, it’s so scattered and ADHD I’m not sure if there is any full imperial commitment outside of Israel they’re willing to do.
>>2612586You haven’t countered any of those sentiments with evidence of possibility.
Parents who do not save for their kids uni fees and let them take student loans should be beaten on crossroads.
No one should go to uni in general, get rid of them, it’s where the bourgeois reproduce
>>2612591>>2612589>>2612576>>2612571As
evidenced by these posts, the main ennemy to socialism is clearly
anglo-empiricism.
Bertrand Russell must be resuscitated only to be beaten to death.
>>2612589>>2612591Lol what would count as "evidence of possibility"? America has workers, they could possibly be organized, it has a government that could possibly collapse. It's not like the place is super stable and everything is trucking along just fine. People are impoverished, exploited, massive riots and protests, political assassinations, mass shootings, etc are common occurrences. Their imperialist stranglehold over the world is weakening, the possibilities expand
>>2612602If it was possible it would have happened already
>>2612612>Everything that's possible happens Lol retard
>>2612610America is literally the most stable place on earth politically, people would much rather kill themselves or schoolchildren before talking to their neighbors. The biggest protest movement of ALL TIME did not put a dent in the government, in fact it’s police budgets are bigger and more equipped than ever.
>>2612614No revolution has ever happened in any overdeveloped capitalist nation, Germany failed and Hungary lasted two weeks, proletarians are not and never have been the revolutionary or historical subject. Lenin concedes this with saying the vanguard of professional revolutionaries is necessary.
>>2612620What is that 'biggest protest movement'of all time?
>>2612624Black Lives Matter in 2020, I know, I’m embarrassed too
The more proletarianized a country is, the less revolutionary it is.
>>2612627Cmon now
What do you expect from picrel
>>2612614Anything that is possible is guaranteed to happen on a long enough timescale
>>2612631Cute couple, I wish them well
>>2612620You're being dramatic, political stability in the US is waning, its imperialist stranglehold on the world is waning. It's getting better every year
>>2612634There’s no economic basis for civil war in America, you had industrialism vs chattel slavery for the first civil war, where is the division today? Industrial and financial capital are too reliant on each other to divorce and tech can just move to China.
>>2612623Just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it's impossible. I mean you can argue that we've been doomed since the failed german revolution, but I don't find that to be very convincing
>>2612633Thats not the point
The point is that BLM was never a protest which would do anything more than liberal performative faggotry
>>2612640True during 2020 especially with the anarchist experiments, slightly less true when you go backward to Ferguson in 2014, most of those organizers who Obama called thugs died highly suspicious deaths before the 2020 eruption
>>2612639If climate change predictions are at all accurate it’s already far too late and if humanity survives the next social system is not inheriting the productive capacity of capitalism
>>2612646Yet another climate demoraliser
>>2612647Hey man I said “if”
>>2612648If…
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
>>2612636Im not saying it'll happen tomorrow anon, but the divisions in the ruling class of the US are not some static thing frozen in place, they are beholden to the world, just like everything else
>>2612652I’m not convinced ruling class divisions are real at all, it reads as kabuki theater
>>2612653you're right it's coke v pepsi. Now sometimes they use outside forces as tools to further an agenda but you can tell what really doesn't fly by the way all sides treat it in discourse. Usually unavowed or dismissed. They don't really like to talk about what's outside their bounds but love to talk and debate their differences within the framework of productivity and order
WAKE UP AMERICANS
SANTA SHOT UP A WALMART
>>2612489i remember kirt got married; did he give up the site or die or someth?
>>2612734You can say there's no such thing as Santa…
>>2612737Idk who kirt is
Idk jack shit about 420
I just find it sad how the refugees try to regroup here and there, and they get abused by others and then they cry out WODIGGERS in reaction
I just wish the mods could just make a 420 board for them
We already have so many useless boards here which barely get any traffic
Delete one of them and make a 420
>>2612751Is Donald feeling Bill's boner in that pic?
Can these old fucks even get hard without ingesting 78 viagra pills?
>>2612755who's the cutie next to Bill?
>>2612758That's Melania anon
>>2612500>muh -ismHoly shit, mods, MODS BAN THIS MAN NOW!
>>2612778!!!!!!!!
good one you got me biatchno seriously tho, who's the cutie
>>2612761daaaaaaamn
mfw I'll have no slovenian
yugoslav titoist cutie :((((
The trend is: proletarianisation of the third world, 1/4 lumpenisation and 3/4 petit-bourgeoisification of the first world.
MERRY KKKRISTMAS TO ALL MY FELLOW AMERIKKKAN TREATLERS!
It's not that there's nothing to be done, but that people get pissy and throw a fit when they hear about what is to be done.
>>2612791
Because they don't like the fact that revolution in America is going to require a lot of gruelling, thankless, boring work before anything dramatic becomes possible. You tell them this and they say that we've been doing that for decades with no result, but that doesn't change the necessity to build a base and the necessity of the correct conditions for doing so. They want some magic solution because they don't accept that there can be a situation in which you do everything right and necessary and still make no progress.
Laura Loomer is a top tier milf.
>>2612586>It's not just him, many anons were exclaiming similar sentiments. >many anonscan you see the IPs?
>If it's not applicable to you then there's no need to feel called out no? No need to act so indignanthere we see the latest modus operandi of the trolls
1. call out the whole thread
2. get corrected
3. "umm it didn't apply to you" :^)
>>2612643>slightly less true when you go backward to Ferguson in 2014, most of those organizers who Obama called thugs died highly suspicious deathsthis, and notice how the anon whining had nothing in response
>>2612811>can you see the IPs?Can you?
>Here's le troll modus operandi Let it go dude, we're talking about trump's qt slovanian wife now
>>2612644you know there's a board for you right? >>>/dead
>>2612816>Can you?I don't need to because I'm not making a positive claim about alleged "multiple anons". You need to produce evidence it's more than one anon since you collectivize your accusations. Meanwhile I individualize my attack. if I see one anon saying something wrong, I correct them, like right now. I don't need to pretend it's a plurality I'm fighting.
Mods, permaban chagos poster for voluntarism.
>>2612570There is nothing to be done though. You cant force history.
>>2612816>Let it go dude, we're talking about trump's qt slovanian wife nowshe's bogged
We are in the deepest, blackest of the black reaction. And it didnt start with the fall of the ussr.
>>2612792thoughts, sabocat?
>>2612359 >>2612371>authoritarianismsounds more like DSA
>>2612824/dead/ is a post leftist board with deleuze guattarian stirnerite rhizomatic nomadic war machine transwahmen barely posting there. Haz is a repping transwahmen for posting there. And nick land. And dugin.
>>2612817You are making a positive claim about it being just one person. Please provide proofs or shut up and stop derailing the thread by bringing up your deranged troll obsession.
>>2612825Maybe nowadays sure
>>2612829the giant hazpost on that board was just a copy paste of some giant tweet thread he made on twitter and probably not something he really posted there at all.
>>2612830>You are making a positive claim about it being just one personwrong, i am saying you have no evidence of it being multiple.
>shut up and let the trolls monopolize the narrativeno
>>2612835And I'm saying you have no evidence of it being a single person.
You wanna keep going around in circles about this? Who's the real troll here?
Mods, permaban people conflating determinism with fatalism and nihilism
>>2612849>it's the default unless you can prove otherwiseNo it's not, you don't make the rules lmao
>making a collective accusation against a community for what one schizo is posting is the distilled essence of derailingThat's not true either. Derailing is what you are doing now by bringing up this pointless argument
>>2612850This
Reminder, USA is not fascist.
>>2612850>meta-complains about troll noticer>pretends the trolls only made 3-4 posts while making a trollpost himselfthe argument piles up because you are clearly so much more triggered by troll noticer than troll
>>2612854>That's not true either. Derailing is what you are doing now by bringing up this pointless argument takes two to tango
>No it's not, you don't make the rules lmao those who make an accusation have to prove. this is basic. in pic rel the anon saying "nothing is to be done, revolution is impossible" was projected onto the entire thread. this kind of thing has been happening for weeks. Trolls show up and make collective accustions without evidence, then claim that actually we have to prove them wrong.
What is incorrect about historical situation being unfavourable and that there is nothing to be done?
>>2612620The government having to increase police budgets, expand police powers and increase surveillance year after year isn't a stable one. It means they need to increasingly rely on violence to maintain legitimacy. Yeah it’s scary and the police state looks insurmountable but it’s also very unstable and unsustainable.
>>2612854>That's not true either.simple question, make sure to dodge it: if I show up and say everyone in the thread is a pedo, do I have to prove my accusation, or does each person I accuse have to prove me wrong?
>>2612865Everything. You can always do something. There is never "nothing" to be done.
>>>/dead/>>2612866This. It's completely unsustainable meaning there isn't "nothing" to be done, but plenty which can and should be done.
>>2612859>while making a teoll post himselfHow is it a troll post?
>more triggered by troll noticer than trollYou're clearly the only one triggered here
>>2612620State's stability dont matter. Fascism emerges when state is unstable, or something
>>2612869Something being agitation and union work, which will be discarded as irrelevant
>>2612870>How is it a troll post? because it comes to the defence of trolls and insists those who attack the trolls are the real trolls
>You're clearly the only one triggered hereI'm triggered by trolls and their defenders, you're triggered by people attacking trolls. Do you want the trolls to win?
What can be done?
>>2612873union support is necessary to any revolution, but trade union consciousness is not enough. it's not irrelevant, just insufficient. It's one step of many.
>>2612880Class consciousness resides in the class party only. No one individual has class consciousness. Masses dont have consciousness. Thats what party is for.
>>2612876>insists those who attack the trolls are the real trollsThe post in no way makes this assertion. If anything, the post recognises trolls as trolls since it refers to them as 'trolls'. It does not, however, assert that troll-noticers/complainers are trolls themselves.
>>2612876>>2612876>you're triggered by people attacking trolls.I'm triggered by nothing at all. I simply noticed the troll-noticers.
If you can do tiring, thankless work for decades and still have it be for nothing what’s the point? At least the fascists reward their people, all anyone here knows how to do is scoff
>>2612884>Class consciousness resides in the class party only.this is revisionist. even the bourgeoisie have class consciousness which is why they defend their wealth.
>>2612890> At least the fascists reward their people, all anyone here knows how to do is scoffwent a little too mask off their buddy.
>>2612859>takes two to tangoYou are the one who brought it back up retard, we were having a perfectly civil and productive conversation before you felt the need to regurgitate this topic with your meta whining. Which I find to be a thousand times more annoying than anything any troll could post, but that's just me.
>those who make an accusation have to prove. this is basic. Yeah and you are making an accusation that I'm misleading people and that it's just one person. I mean it might be true, we have no way of knowing, but it seemed pretty evident to me that Chagos Poster was talking to multiple people yesterday who's final conclusion was that there's nothing to do.
>in pic rel the anon saying "nothing is to be done, revolution is impossible" was projected onto the entire thread.It seemed like multiple people to me. If you think it's just one that's fine, we'll agree to disagree.
>this kind of thing has been happening for weeks. Trolls show up and make collective accustions without evidence, then claim that actually we have to prove them wrong.Post proof or you're lying
>>2612869I'm not sure what you're asking. If we had a long many dozens of posts long discussion about the validity of pedophelia the day before and then you showed up and claimed every poster here is a pedo I wouldn't give a fuck and I certainly wouldn't start this autistic argument about it. If you're not a pedo then why are you so triggered by the accusation? Just laugh it off friend
>>2612880What is to be done?
>>2612896>we were having a perfectly civil and productive conversation you were lusting over the zionist pedophile billionaire president's bogged up mail order bride lol
>>2612900In a perfectly productive and civil way
>do something
Really?
>>2612898get a job and talk to workers, find out what their grievances are, use those grievances in your agitation, identify yourself with their every day needs so they trust you, arm them, train them, move them against the capitalist state?
each one of those can be broken down into 100 more steps based on your local conditions.
>>2612903trve trve, merry xmas 😘
Commies are godless materialists who dont believe in soul and free will. Therefore they dont have morality and they will never achieve their goals because they think they are flesh automatons with no free will.
>>2612905Talk to them as a nobody individual or as a member of a communist party? Do these workers recognise communism and communists as a relevant political force?
>>2612909If god exists he needs to be brought to justice and killed
>>2612905>individual agitationHOLY SHIT! MODS! THIS ONE IS REALLY BAD! BAN HIM NOW. THIS IS ULTRA VOLUNTARISM! DO IT NOW!
>>2612900Look dude, a hot chick is a hot chick alright.
>>2612909Why did God create them then?
Checkmate theist.
>>2612909>think they are flesh automatons with no free willAnd that's worse than being flesh automatons that will do whatever they think their shit ass god wants them to do?
>>2612911He is. And it will be you who will be judged by your deeds.
When are you going to get it through your thick skull that you don’t matter and nobody does? Merry fucking christmas
>>2612922I’m nothing and nobody, there’s no case to brought
>>2612900>bogged upMelania is BEAUTIFUL.
>>2612182I can seriously do all of the following to deshowitz: jail him, fire him (even losing pension benefits), prosecute him, fine him, deporte/denaturalize him, have his passports revoked with travel bans and suicide because that was McCarthysm did. that way I he can rest his case clean.
>>2612906And a merry Christmas to you anon 🎅
Piss on the world, hell
>>2612921Be consistent commie. In your worldview we are all equally flesh automatons regardless of what in our head which we didnt even choose to believe. Your communism is so impotent that you cant even own in argument. Communism and materialism are inherently self defeating for this one simple reason of free will and individual decision not being a factor in it. Jesus with his own free will and singular decision moved history in such a way that communists will never achieve.
>>2612934Mao is bigger than Jesus and China will win
>>2612935He's definitely fatter than Yeshua
>>2612934 (me)
Communist dont believe in afterlife and eternal soul. They are incapable of martyrdom. They actually are. They do have free will. Everyone does. But they decided to deny their own free will and moral culpabilty. They are moral cowards.
>>2612938Communists literally invented plane hijacking and the suicide bomb, Islamists stole OUR THINGS
>>2612505>>2612810>>2612915>>2612927🤢🤮
>>2612922god is a thing humans made up so they can pretend their dogshit opinions come from a source of infinite power
>>2612910give it a shot and refine your formula based on the results. you'll achieve nothing if you do nothing.
>>2612923everyone matters. they also space time and energy.
>Le God
>Le free will
Lmaoooo imagine being a brainlet christcuck in this day and age. People already figured out that was a scam from old pedos to get you to donate money like 200 years ago dog
>>2612880Big bill Haywood had the right idea with the IWW but that got crushed and unions (the few that do exist) are completely under the control of the bourgeoisie. They are basically just HR+ now. I’ve been thinking Richard wolf has been right about co-ops, that would should be building an alternative economy. The U.S isn’t lacking resources or manpower, it’s lacking organization. Organization that’s breaking down even among bourgeoisie institutions. Capitalism has also gone completely global and mega corporations are quasi-states on their own. I think the failure of the western left has been attempting to seize the state instead of capital itself.
And since I’m bringing this up there was an idea I was farting around with I call the commons. A blueprint to building a federated mega co-op. Go ahead an rip it apart, I had deepseek help write a draft.
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THE COMMONS: CORE OPERATING THEORY (v2.0)
Strategic North Star: Capitalism is not defeated by revolution but outcompeted into obsolescence via a recursive economic model that weaponizes its own tendencies (efficiency, monopoly) to create a post-capitalist society.
1. The Engine: Recursive Decommodification
· The Monopoly Protocol: Any co-op federation achieving 51% market share in a sector must decommodify that good, making it a free Tier 1 essential (e.g., food, energy). Competition is used to abolish the need for itself.
· Resource Tiers:
· Tier 1: Essentials (free, funded by Commons pool).
· Tier 2: Luxuries (labor vouchers).
· Tier 3: Critical Infrastructure (collectively controlled).
2. The Agent: The Labor Aristocracy
· The 21st-century revolutionary class is the disaffected, downwardly-mobile skilled professionals (tech, managers, engineers). They hold the operational knowledge to run the world and the motive to defect.
3. The Political Structure: A Protocol for Civilization
A tripartite system designed to wither away:
· Congress of Labor (CoL): Sovereign body (1 delegate / 250 workers).
· Senate of Management (SoM): Advisory board from >5% market share federations. Has a sunset clause.
· Board of Executives (BoE): Administrative branch. Zero policy power.
4. The Entry Vector: The ISO Gambit
· Action: Launch an Independent Sales Organization (ISO) for payment processing.
· Public Pitch: Offer better rates/service to credit unions and co-ops.
· True Goal:
1. Embed within the financial system's plumbing.
2. Use profits to seed first co-ops (logistics, energy).
3. Federate client credit unions into a network.
4. Have the network jointly buy out the ISO, making it their first collective asset.
5. Launch a low-fee "Commons Card" to create a closed financial system.
5. The Expansion Mechanism
· Use the financial network to incentivize merchant conversion to co-ops (via preferential rates/loans).
· Grandfather existing structures; mandate all new businesses under the co-op model.
· Horizontally integrate into new sectors (energy, housing) using recaptured capital and guaranteed demand from the existing network.
6. The Political Strategy: Regulatory Innovation
· Initially comply with all regulations (PCI DSS) using partner platforms.
· Build a coalition of the regulated (small banks, indie processors) against regulatory capture by giants.
· Develop a superior, open-source "Commons Standard."
· Use the federated network's economic power to lobby, fund Super PACs, and eventually capture the regulatory apparatus to legitimize the new standard.
7. The Revelation Doctrine: Compartmentalized Ideology
· Phase 1 (Business Case): Recruit on efficiency, better rates, and community reinvestment. Hide the end goal.
· Phase 2 (Ethical Case): Reveal democratic ownership as a superior economic model to inner circle.
· Phase 3 (Strategic Case): Reveal the full historical materialist endgame only to the crucial architect core.
· Phase 4 (Public Revelation): Declare the true purpose only once the network is too powerful to crush.
8. The Endgame:
A self-sustaining, post-scarcity ecosystem where the need for class, money, and state has withered away, replaced by a democratic protocol for resource management and human flourishing.
Current Status: Executing Phase 1. Employed at a target ISO, cultivating knowledge and contacts. Networking locally with credit unions under a professional guise. Preparing for a clean break and launch.
This is not a protest. It is a hostile takeover of the future, executed with the dry precision of a business plan. The goal is not to become the new ruling class, but to build the system that renders all ruling classes obsolete.
That christcuck has alot in common with voluntarists here. They are the same thing.
>>2612946>I’ve been thinking Richard wolf has been right about co-opsLenin was highly critical of cooperatives but Enegels said they were "splendid, when not ruined by the police." (paraphrasing)
>>2612950anti-voluntarist anon your personal crusade against voluntarism is the ultimate form of voluntarism.
>>2612952True. It is. I am voluntarist too. Actually the word voluntarist should be applied to theories and ideologies and not individuals, yeah.
>>2612934Jesus was a cum covered amateur and his followers do literally the opposite of everything he said.
There is nothing to be done for leftypolers.
>waaah do something
Voluntarist praxis therefore ineffective false solution.
>>2612968Oh they know all right 😅
But just like Meadow, the sweet lifestyle is too good to give up
>>2612952Your reply is more voluntarist. Calling out voluntarism is not voluntarism.
>>2612972>>2612955which one is real?!
People in this thread telling leftypolers to do something must not know that we arent revolutionaries.
>>2612990The people will not accept Penny.
To win over the People, you must give up the Penny.
also, PENIS, hehehehehhehehehe >>2612998That's Siddhartha Gautama, not Mao
>>2612998Dumb fucking maoyghur cant even see thats not mao (the greatest opportunist of all time)
>>2612827>>2612359Any religion that teaches of the existence of paradise in the afterlife could lend itself to passivity in the material world. However Jesus also tells his followers that they should live righteously and build righteous communities. Therefore Christians should emulate the morals of Christ and build a society based on this. This latter philosophy has led people to resist imperialist, feudal, slaveholding and other reactionary forces, both violently and nonviolently. The inescapable conclusion of studying Jesus' teachings is that only a communist society is capable of being truly Christlike. In other words there is ample theological basis for calling on Christians to take up struggles on behalf of the poor and oppressed in the real, material world. I think the worst you could say would be that a strictly nonviolent approach could be lacking in efficacy, however later theologians have walked this doctrine back with concepts like Just War.
>You just have to be careful when "using" religion "strategically" since religious people will very quickly see through your attempt to "use them" when they realize you are a materialist who does not ultimately believe in any of the same supernatural principles that they do.Maybe "using" people is the wrong phrasing. What I'm talking about is an alliance, since Christians and communists (if they take their principles to their logical conclusion) are working towards essentially the same end. The differences are philosophical and essentially academic. Frankly if feudal lords, capitalists, and slavers can deploy Christianity as successfully as they did despite their complete incongruence with its basic principles, there is no reason to think that communists can't do the same when we are far more aligned with them.
>>2613012>wrong on purpose big funnyjokes usually have a punchline
>>2613030He went on the Ozempic because he got mad that everyone kept making fun of his weight and he's probably going to get cancer and die (side effect of Ozempic abuse).
>>2612442>AI is at its most useful for statistical tasks like counting and classifying the pedestrians who walk past a given surveillance camera. This is so weird to me because we dont need any of the GenAI breakthroughs to do any of this. You can run the latest YOLO on a raspberry pi connected to a camera, and the classifier is just some k-means shit, this is not even a neural network proper, they teach this shit to undergrads. We've had the means to do dystopic surveillance networks for pretty much a decade. It really is just propping up an industry where the imperial west still retains an edge on, at least for a decade, because there is no other industry to monopolize. Silicon Valley cannot go back to modest growth, they need an extraordinary new frontier to fully back or theyre bust, that's it.
>>2613057people have built a lot of sureillance stuff recently using YOLO as a foundation, a starting point. You're right that they teach that shit to undergrads, and those undergrads go on to expand the capabilities of it.
Americans are having a wholesome time with their family and friends. Life is beautiful.
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>>2613066You are wasting time here. Kindly consult the report at
>>2612385 >>2613068Early Lenin’s hairstyle was rough.
>>2613070I responded to the report and was ignored:
>>2612496 >>2613072t. hairline-obsessed faggot
>>2613043>“They are endangering not only the State of Israel, which I care deeply about and want to exist, but endangering the Jewish population all over the world. They say they want the zionost entity to exist.This person is a nazi that says hitler is embarassing the aryan race and nazi state. Ziohran exposes himself more by the day. Thank you for sharing and exposing their treachery.
>>2613079Ah! A million apologies dear comrade! I missed it
somehow. I will go through you undoubtedly interesting points and get back to you ASAP.
Again, my apologies!
>>2613030>>2613031Well guess I'm getting on the shit too if it can do that.
>>2613098if you're really fat, like 300lbs or greater, expect loose skin flaps when you're done losing weight on ozempic
the modern christmas tradition was invented by capitalist to drive consumerism. it's modern aesthetics were invented by coca cola.
>>2613080Lenin perfected the perfect hairstyle for going bald. Classic and timeless, it’s just his early prototype is pretty rough imo.
>>2613107I thought they stole it from the Dutch?
>>2613109pretty sure people had that hairstyle long before Lenin.
>>2613111Let the American make it all about him and his consumerism.
>>2613113Slave owner talking about perverted systems. Kek.
>>2613120I just think it's funny when modern conservatoids pretend america is constitutionally Le Abrahamic Religion Country. luckily for them most americans can't or don't choose to read
>>2613122You can thank WallBuilders for most of that propaganda, there's a concentrated effort by wealthy evangelicals to rewrite America's past and make the Founding Fathers fundamentalist Christians who broke from Great Britain and Europe due to its "godlessness" or whatever. This leads to delightfully insane takes like the idea that Catholics came to America to escape the Pope so American Catholics dont need to listen to him. They also practically run the Texas public education system
>>2613126>there's a concentrated effort by wealthy evangelicals to rewrite America's past and make the Founding Fathers fundamentalist Christians who broke from Great Britain and Europe due to its "godlessness" or whatever. picrel is what they
actually believe
>>2613122You speak like secular zionist who says the zionist entity is secular democracy. You engage in constitutional fetishism. Amerika is materially a protestant dictatorship.
>>2613128you speak like troll who deliberately interprets posts in worst faith possible as low effort ragebait.
>>2613127It says something that for all of Bioshock Infinite's faults its portrayal of Dominionist Christians was so on point that they uncritically used propaganda made up in the game in the real world.
>>2612355because we are aristocratic patrons of the fine arts and small businesses
>>2613129Nothing ragebaity about his post, anon.
USApollers have their weird McCarthyism where they see bait and troll in every nook and corner
>>2613130> they uncritically used propaganda made up in the game in the real world.this is a major critique i see leveled at fiction in general. villains and antiheroes get emulated rather than treated as cautionary tales.
>>2613122I mean they're only half wrong. The founders were all religious anyhow. Honestly everything those nuykuhs did seems to be in opposition to what they said. They should be purged from reality.
>>2613133>USApollers have their weird McCarthyism where they see bait and troll in every nook and cornernew?
>>2613135>The founders were all religious anyhowDeism is incredbily secular for the 1700s, especially in a country founded by puritans
>>2612355I, for one, welcome the destruction of the arrogant unproductive petit bourgeois art hoes by the bourgeois AI.
<long live the butcher >>2613130The first part of Bioshock Infinite was spot on, the issue was Levine couldn't help but turn around and do a "BOTH SIDES ARE BAD" schtick because at the end of the day he's a liberal hack.
>>2613133>Nothing ragebaity about his post, anon. you have to be new if you aren't familiar with this guy's trollposts, or playing dumb. they always take on this obnoxious caveman speak tone
>Wrong>you speak like>you talk like>you think >you are>shilled trump for months>shills reactionary hotep lolcows like tariq nasheed, dr. umar and Menkheperra The Greatall of his posts just take what you said, put a counter revolutionary spin on it that didn't exist, misinterpret words, make up shit you didn't say, make up shit you didn't think, accuse you of being something you're not
how the FUCK did he (and you) get "secular zionism" out of that post? it has nothing to do with secular zionsm or constitutional fetishism. I never said that the constitution is the final authority or that america isn't deeply reactionary or religious in practice, I'm just pointing out that the reactionaries are revisionist. to get anything else out of the post is a deliberate misinterpretation.
>>2613141yeah i couldn't believe when they somehow managed to spin Daisy Fitzroy and Comstock into "equally bad". they do the killmonger trope too where they have her kill a kid for no reason so you "know" she's "unredeemable" just like the … racist theocracy that enslaved her?!
>>2613141God dont get me started. Honestly I would have been willing to overlook that stuff had we been given a clear and steady degeneration of the Vox Populi from noble revolutionaries to killpeopleists, I always look a well pulled off "protagonist journey to villain" kind of deal. But they dont even give us that. The Vox Populi are fighting on your side for like a couple of battle scenes and then they abruptly turn on you and the next thing you know they're talking about killing people who wear glasses. If you're going to make your revolutionaries go from Le Miserable to Pol Pot you cant just do it in one stroke
>>2613144Funny enough they actually explain that part in the Buried At Sea DLC. Apparently that whole "Daisy tries to kill a child" thing was actually an elaborate ploy by those wonder twins I cant be bothered to remember the names of to get Elizabeth to kill HER, thereby giving her the killing instinct and willpower she needs to eventually eliminate Comstock across all timelines. While it salvages Daisy Fitzroy's character at least (she's openly disgusted with the idea until it's made clear the child wont actually be harmed, correctly pointing out the kid had nothing to do with his father's crimes), it raises further issues of having a black character sacrifice herself for the sake of a white character's character development.
Thoughts on prof jiang?
>>2613151What are retcons if not explanations we dislike
>>2613128Were in the waning days of 2025 and ppl haven’t learned to just ignore these clowns lol
>>2613160🤣 he deleted his bait again so he could workshop it
>>2613165stop proving it true so much and I'll stop posting it
>>2613163He may have intended it as bait but he is objectively correct
>>2613167no he isn't because he's deliberately flattening the difference between prescription and description and pretending my historical statement of what the founders prescribed is meant to be a descriptive statement of what America is in practice. he does this a lot and it's a deliberate misinterpretation. you're either falling for it or playing along.
>>2613128they hate him because he told them the truth
>>2613122Wrong. Like zionist entity, Amerika is genocidal christian settler dictatorship. Like zionists, amerikans adopted secular language to portray their theocratic genocidal ethnostate as rational.
George Washington Thanksgiving Proclamation
Church of the Holy Trinity v. United States
>>2613129One who is ragebaited by facts should relax and go call their families. Do not be so hasty to uphold amerikan legalist thought. Separation of church and state is not what you think it is. Such measures are merely to prevent civil war between protestantk and other khristo-kolonizer groups.
honkoid status?
>>2613176brimming with ragebait and trolls in every orifice
It is pretty crazy how easily this guy ragebaits people here with his ultra materialist schtick. They make whole murals of memes and compilations about him. He's not even a namefag, he just does it for the love of the game. Gotta respect the hussle
>>2613169You tell us amerika is not a theocracy. This isnt actually true. Since inception amerika is a christo-settler dictatorship.
It is ironic that the confucians tell us such lies on this day. Today is khristmas, national holiday of the fascist khristian settler theocracy.
>>2613187>>2613189Are you the Menkhepera follower?
>>2613203canadia will be annexed relatively peacefully because it's perceived as a white nation by the facsists currently in power in the USA. mexico will try to submit to all USA demands to avoid bloodshed but the USA will invade and massacre anyway before vassalizing mexico in some way. because killing brown people is kinda the point to them.
>>2613172I made an either/or statement. But thanks for clarifying.
>>2613225>sakaist fedposting, but with a freudian psychobabble twistok take it to isg
>>2613190does the same exact trolling style not make it obvious?
>>2613225>the public want to be epsteinuh, no? lol
>>2613229it's just sakaist fedposting, but with a freudian psychobabble twist
>>2613225>bullshit from some pseudo-intellectual lowbie retard account on shitter dot comthanks bro
>>2613229they do though, in the same way that people self-insert as the protagonist when they read a novel. do they do it consciously? not necessarily, but do they enjoy it? yes. if your interest in the epstein files was to advance justice against the perpetrators, you wouldn't care about the graphic details, which is to say, you wouldn't care about these "drops". the people talking about these limited releases are basically playing an alternate reality game where they can watch from the closet as actually existing salo happens
>>2613234petitioning mods to change the board's name to /baitypol/
>>2613152>thoughts on professor yang?Literal sophistry in its purest form. Guy thinks he figured out history so well he can predict the future. He's an anti-marxist crank midwit Chinese-Canadian """"professor""" in a sweater vest in front of a white board.
>Oh all of you impressionable young "adults" on youtube PREASE join my discord pretty preaseee >>2613238he reminds me of another grifter, stephen molyneux back in 2015.
>>2613235>>2613236ok show me some results then
after hours of looking at ghislaine's bikini pics and hundreds of emails of larry summers being racist and misogynist, how many arrests did you achieve. I'm not even asking for structural changes, just show me a mugshot
you have none? you either suck at your job, or you understand that it would be a waste of time to actually pursue justice, and you are only this to feed your own perversion, even if you don't want to admit it
I'm in favor of releasing and amplifying actual evidence that could actually put people in jail, I don't care about the limited hangout, the memes, the fetish-bait and etc.
>>2613152Literal holocaust denier
>>2613240>i will make my earlier bait slightly more elaborate by shifting the goalpost to arrestsok
Inside your mind are two homunculi. One is an underage girl, and the other is literally Jeffrey Epstein. By reading this you are now implicated. When the jury reads this they will also be implicated, and then nullified as a result. We are all pedophiles now, so the age of consent is actually the result of a deep perversion. The only moral thing left to do is abolish it.
>>2613234>>2613240I don’t think it’s perversion or self insert, the fascination comes from the same place any true crime stories or like footage of natural disasters/car wrecks. Outside of that I agree with you, I mean nobody is going to see justice. All that’s happened is the story has been commodified for like Netflix documentaries and influencers to do their make up to. We haven’t even gotten so much as like a schizo Q type guy storming the DOJ.
>>2613251god damn it this is so stupid.
>there are no official results so therefore this was pointless and I'm actually the smart one who is rising above itThis is cope. The entire point of the epstein file craze is that it represents a collective frustration with the impunity a corrupt sovereign entity is able to display. It's a very natural and expected phenomenon given the circumstances…
and it is a necessary one.
look USAnians barely protested for a genocide. they were obviously not gonna do anything about being ruled by pedophiles. there is no politics in the USA. and it'll remain that way until the treatlers start literally starving en masse.
>>2613253>it represents a collective frustration with the impunity a corrupt sovereign entity is able to display.no it doesn't. no one is joining a communist party or denouncing inequality because of this; there is no reaction that would indicate that most consumers of these stories have a problem with them. you are frustrated at the perverts for doing nothing, the perverts are just enjoying the content, and you are projecting onto them, except you yourself are a pervert because you actually know all of this but keep doing it
>>2613251>comes from the same place any true crime storieswhich is self-inserting as the most raped corpse ever. here I would quote bernie sanders saying that stuff about violence and sex on tv but I don't care enough to look it up
>>2613253I’m not saying I’m above anything. How much more exposed does the Epstein case need before people wake the fuck up and any kind of semblance of justice occurs? I mean he was first exposed and arrested in fucking 2006 and let loose to rape for over another decade. Idk I really do hope something happens but I’m skeptical, I pray to be proven wrong.
>>2613234i disagree with "americans want to be epstein" but i absolutely agree that the sordid details satisfy some voyeuristic impulse, the fact is that epstein is so deeply fucked up and perverted that it makes people actually kind of fascinated to learn about it. i think it speaks more to how people treat the epstein scandal like a true crime show, the reason there's no upheaval at all is because people are removed from it, materially and mentally, and witness it as pure spectacle.
>>2613251> the fascination comes from the same place any true crime stories or like footage of natural disasters/car wrecks. oh someone else made the connection before me, that's exactly right.
>>2613264the whole point is we don't have the systems for justice to be served in place. You can't just expect people to "rise up" when you don't articulate what that would actually look like, and especially when the people themselves are trying to articulate it. I understand this is just a disagreement about the way to look at it, glass half-full yada yada.
But also, it is better to talk about it and have it be on everyone's mind and also written down as a significant historical scandal than not to. At some point, this will be used to reform the system one way or another, even if it's 15 to 30 years down the line. Just because we don't witness a satisfying definitive triumph doesn't mean there aren't adaptations in the public consciousness and general behavior to try and avoid repeating these circumstances. Awareness
actually does do things believe it or not.
>>2613267>At some point, this will be used to reform the system one way or another, even if it's 15 to 30 years down the line.woke was an overreaction to latent pedophilia in mainstream culture, what will happen is we will get woke 2, and then another counter-reaction to it, fundamentally changing nothing.
>>2613261>no one is joining a communist party or denouncing inequality because of thisI
highly doubt that's true. In fact, I would imagine this is… pretty radicalizing? It's a very significant narrative in the public consciousness that brings to fore the inadequacies of the current system. There's literally a podcast, TrueAnon, who's
main thing is Epstein Stuff and how it represents the heart of American corruption… and the hosts are literally avowed communists.
I don't know where you're getting this pessimism but it's fucking stupid lmao
santa deniers are going straight to hell
>>2613270santa deniers all got coal this year, facts
>>2613268>fundamentally changing nothingThat's just wrong? I'm sorry but you honestly think things don't change? That's just blatantly untrue and not possible. Maybe you don't go out and talk to people, maybe you have the memory of a goldfish, maybe you don't have queer friends…
But the culture war, for however retarded it was in its worst moments, was actually awesome for queer people in general. They have it much better now than before, because you cannot fuck with them like you used to. There's not turning that dial back.
>>2613270santa doesn't exist and neither does hell
>>2613235ngl if i were that flexible it wouldn't be my ass getting all the attention
>>2613272>But the culture war, for however retarded it was in its worst moments, was actually awesome for queer people in general. They have it much better now than before, because you cannot fuck with them like you used to. There's not turning that dial back.What? I don't know who you hang around, but there's genuinely not been a single improvement in the lives of queer people as a result of woke or whatever else you may call it. Maybe in academic and white collar jobs in big cities, you could argue there were some more diversity hires and some pride flags get put up whenever June rolls around. Most queers (especially the working-class and poor ones) didn't benefit at all though. The only thing culture wars did was make us a target if anything. There was already a tendency towards people overall developing more progressive opinions on social issues like LGBT acceptance. Now that these have been used to launder all sorts of grifts and bourgeois political agendas, there's an incentive for politicians to enact repressive legislation and for charlatans more broadly to spin up hatred against us as an easy way to galvanize support. I've never seen a positive return from wokeness as a trans woman, and on the other hand, I've never seen so many anti-trans laws discussed and enacted in different places. Hell, even cisgender women are at risk of being considered trans by delusional fuckwits now and being threatened or having their lives ruined.
>>2613288i think it's odd how people recognize that there's no demand for compute for AI, but can't seem to translate this for game streaming, even though it's essentially the same business model
>>2613293Seeing how the cottage industry of posting jingoistic war porn full of gore and sadism has succeeded for the Ukraine war then the Gaza genocide… I am calling it now, that is the future of war reporting. Next US big war will be followed from gopros and tiktoks, not high altitude drones and plane cameras or embedded reporters. And everyone will cheer at their weekly dose of triumphalist gore porn.
The TV anchor will do their pokerface and cop-speak themselves through the liberal interventionist propaganda. While the public nods along, registering what words to use in polite conversation. At the same time that they scroll on their phone for the latest live action grindhouse nonfiction, starring US troops and "baddies", to masturbate to.
And recruitment will skyrocket when kids imagine themselves going on human safaris to replicate the power fantasy.
>>2613288Who had the correct revolutionary line, GamersNexus or LinusTechTips?
>>2613299Thankfully this will be short lived as the bourgeoisie won’t be able to keep the lights on in the next 3 years.
>>2613302Didn’t Linus have some scandal not to long ago or am I just not remembering right.
>>2613304Holy cope
>>2613299You will be able to bet on Polymarket who will get the highest number of kills.
Rape of soldiers will be sanitised and normalised as there will be Army servicewomen who will actively set up Onlyfans pages for
captured liberated women in Venezuelan villages, where they will get remunerated in
not getting killed strong US Dollars.
As drones become more important, operating drones to kill from distance will be considered an e-sport. There will be events in arenas where this is livestreamed and people will cheer. The prolific drone operators will become e-celebs, people will buy their merch etc.
The
blackest cringiest reaction indeed.
>>2613305imperialism isn't
merely export of capital, though that is one aspect of it
>>2613306Yeah a chick accused the workplace of some things idk it was not very clear
But it seems they were not found guilty or something
>>2613299Baudrilliard nooooooticed this in the 90s. It didn't seem to bring volunteer rates up.
>>2613305>coups, sanctions, embargoes, loans, invasions, assassinations, piracy, theft, bombings, poisoning mean NOTHING and exporting commodities means EVERYTHINGreally though?
>>2613152>canadianOh ok I thought he actually lives in China, so I was very surprised that he spits his bullshit so comfortably. Xi would never.
>>2613315Me ne frego
Me no faggot
Something like that you know what they usually post
>>2613307Maybe in you’re sick fantasies, none of that shit is going to be possible to maintain during climate instability, raising political instability and global trade collapsing. Dystopia is coming but not the one the bourgeoisie plan on bringing because they’re retarded inbreed failsons.
Every new Maoist tendency (Gonzaloites, TWists etc) tends to get more and more unhinged and parody-like.
Is the reason at least in part that they always have almost no grounding (and minimal contact) in the working class, and rather have as basis the peasantry and/or the lumpenproletariat?
>>2613326>tends to get more and more unhinged and parody-likewhat do you mean?
>>2613324>maybe in your sick fantasiesDude Im not wishing for these. Im not happy it.
Has the climate-apocalypss cult broken your brain to this extent?
>>2613327I was very clear in what I wrote. I cannot simplify it any further.
>>2613329>simplify elaborate
>>2613329>tends to get more and more unhinged and parody-likein what respect?
>>2613165yall hating cuz its true lol
>>2613290lag makes streamed games unplayable, that's why streaming based game services never took off
>>2613160There, I fixed your shit meme for you
Replace A with the thousand different texts
>>2613288just buy parts and use linux
>>2613338based and correct
>>2613338>if i repeat conservative retardation uncritically it's because i'm doing hegelian dialectics, and also bell curve shit is real and truethis is what hazcels actually believe
>>2613342>hazcelRent free
>repeating conservatardsNo moron, that's the whole point. Your shit meme keeps implying that communists and conservatives(or US govt) have the same position. They do not. While on a superficial level, for the simple minded, it may look like they do (duh hur durr both say that US imperialism benefits me), their reasoning are completely different and their conclusions have subtle differences which can reveal a mountain of difference if you actually think about it.
Negation of the negation never meant going back to square one; it's 'similar, but not quite', 'same, but actually very different'.
>>2613342>bell curve is trueWell the bell curve is just the normal distribution, that is a statistical reality
Just because your consevatives do not understand it does not invalidate the curve itself
Concerning the 'EYE Q' side of it, it's just a silly popular meme
>>2613343>Rent free ok thanks for admitting you're a hazcel
>Your shit meme keeps implying that communists and conservatives(or US govt) have the same position. They do notyou're such a dishonest piece of shit, not just about the conversation, but about that meme. Since the meme has "communists" in scare quotes, but also in the context of this particular conversation where all I said was that the founding fathers founded the USA as a secular republic with freedom of religion. Then a well known contrarian troll who begins every post with "Wrong." and talks like a caveman pretended I was saying that there is no reactionary religious superstructure in the US, or that the US doesn't have any kind of Christian supremacy. He even accused me of being a zionist. This is patently absurd. I even explained the difference between the prescriptive and the descriptive but the allies of the known troll (not sure if you or another anon) tried to take that out of context as well. Buzz off you absolute bottomfeeding cretin.
>>2613328>pollution and resources limits don’t exist Even if you don’t believe in pollution and resource limits there’s still the collapse of global trade and the increasing incompetence of the ruling class from generation to generation.
>>2613347>hazcel admitting No Im not but there's no point even arguing
You obsessed retards bring up hazcel whenever someone disagrees with you
You are as superficial as Haz
>>2613328>climate-apocalypss cultclimate deniers will deny they were ever climate deniers when the water wars come
>>2613348I do believe in pollution, resource limit and I do believe climate chamge is real with disastrous consequences.
I just find the climate demoralising cult to be annoying af.
The sooner you fuck off to the hills and prepare for the apocalypse, the better it will be for the rest of us.
>>2613349didn't read the rest of what I said? figures. just like the original troll in this conversation who took the very basic statement "the US was founded as a secular bourgeois republic" and somehow spun it into "I'm a zionist who is covering up evangelical reactionaries"
>>26133471. The contrarian troll while he may had trolling intentions, was objectively correct in his arguments (mostly)
2. I posted this bell curve meme in response to the whole template of your shitty meme, not just founding fathers bullshit.
>>2613352Here it is you retard, have some patience in life
>>2613352 >>2613347He initially said your reasoning RESSEMBLES that of zionists in their zionist context. He did not outright call you a zionist. Now if you keep munching ass like this, yeah you deserve to be called all sorts of things.
>>2613353>The contrarian troll while he may had trolling intentions, was objectively correct in his arguments (mostly)bullshit. he was just accusing me of being a zionist and revising history on top of that. Just because the US has an evangelical reactionary superstructure and a puritan settler white supremacist origin does not negate that it was founded as a secular bourgeois republic in 1776 by a group of people who were remarkably non religious for the time. the fact that you are praising a known troll who spun the most basic historical fact into an accusation of zionism can only mean that you are playing dumb.
How pampered you cretins want to be on an imageboard?
The slightest disagreement in a slightly trollish manner and you start throwing a hissy fit.
Fuck off to Reddit.
>>2613356>zionizuhmmmmmmRefer to
>>2613355 >>2613355>He initially said your reasoning RESSEMBLES that of zionists in their zionist context. He did not outright call you a zionist.have you seen this guy's posts before. he always does shit like this. fuck off. you're either new or playing dumb. stick around for a few more threads and he'll spin something you say into bullshit too.
>>2613357>infinite defense for fedposters and contrarian trolls<tells people with two braincells to fuck off to redditit's obvious what your'e doing.
>>2613359Sure. And if he does spin my bullshit I will not bitch and moan for hours. I will call him a retard and his mother a whore and call it a day.
>>2613360>fedpostersLmao feds give zero shit about this dead board
>>2613351I already fucked off to the Great Lakes area, also don’t accuse me of doomersim when your doing the same shit. But instead of a collapsed society rebuilding after the major fuck up of capitalist society you propose that capitalist society will find infinite resources and will still be able to provide phones to the masses to and run gambling rings on their latest atrocities. You’re more of a doomed than I am, I think capitalist society is doomed before it’s able to get to that point, or at best maintains that relationship for 2 years max before shit crumbles under their feet. I have zero faith in the bourgeoisie to provide me a cyberpunk dystopia.
>>2613364>you propose that capitalist society will find infinite resourcesAre you insane? Where did I say any of this?
>>2613357>if you defend yourself against fake accusations from a contarian troll it's because you're a redditoryeah yeah give it a rest glowbot
>>2613361> I will not bitch and moan for hours.you're right here "bitching" with me. you're here to come to his defense every god damn time which is the only reason the discussion has gone on this long. I would have run out of responses a long time ago if you weren't sitting here trying to pretend his stinking bullshit is dialectical materialist gold.
>>2613366Your meme sucks and someone had to fix it.
You should be thanking me.
>>2613363>Lmao feds give zero shit about this dead boardthey just use LLMs these days. they dont' even need to give a shit.
>>2613338"revolutionaries are conservative" headass take
>>2613353>The contrarian troll while he may had trolling intentions, was objectively correct in his arguments (mostly)mostly implies he was wrong about something. are you willing to name a single thing he was wrong about or would that interfere with your job here?
>>2613305that's the
net international investment position, dummass.
>>2613365How is the ruling class going to keep the internet going for the masses during collapse, they’re going to hit a wall were profit makes zero sense.
>>2613378>jobSchizo, do you seriously believe anyone would pay me to post here? At this point, what's the difference between you and an /pol/ak?
>>2613128>You speak like secular zionist Wrong. I just state basic historical fact that America was founded as secular bourgeois Republic, even if in practice it is Christian supremacist and zionist and racist.
>who says the zionist entity is secular democracy. Wrong. I didn't say what the US "is" I said what it was founded as.
>You engage in constitutional fetishism. Wrong. I did not say the constitution is good or the final word in anything or even that it should be revered or continue existing.
>Amerika is materially a protestant dictatorship.Wrong. America allows Muslism, Jews, and Hindus to hold elected office.
>>2613353> The contrarian troll while he may had trolling intentions, was objectively correct in his arguments (mostly)Wrong. See above. There is nothing the contrarian troll said which was correct. everything he said was slander or mischaracterization. and you come to his endless defense and drag on conversation and move goalposts.
>>2613382>mostly implies he was wrong about something. are you willing to name a single thing he was wrongcan't answer the question can you
>>2613383based wrongposter
>>2613381>>2613383>>2613384Have some patience you fucking termite
>Amerika is materially a protestant dictatorship.Key word here is 'materially'. Your response about Muslims Jews Hindus having the right to hold office is an example of 'constitutional fetishism'
>Wrong. I did not say the constitution is good or the final word in anything or even that it should be revered or continue existing.By Constitutional fetishism he did not mean that you think its always good. Just that you take it at face value.
You are very smug for a very simple minded naive person.
>>2613380>claims I believe in infinite resources bla bla <asks him when I said this>asks me a question about internet collapseGive it a rest man
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>>2613393>>2613390I wrote a half a paragraph and deleted. You’re right I’ll let it go, not cause I think you’re right but because I’m on my 6th whiskey and the argument was stupid to begin with and we really don’t disagree on much at the end of the day.
>>2613397Enjoy the whiskey comrade
Communism will win
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>>2613399Fucking true love you guys
>>2613387>Key word here is 'materially'. Your response about Muslims Jews Hindus having the right to hold office is an example of 'constitutional fetishism'it's a basic legal fact retard. it would be constitutional fetishism if I fetishized and revered the constitution, which didn't happen. you just make shit up as you go along don't you
>>2613399alcohol is for retards, lenin said so
>>2613387so you don't actually think the contarian troll was "mostly" right, like you said, you literally agree with every single thing he said and can't admit a single thing he was wrong about. weird!
>>2613414i reject your dogshit thread as i am the usual baker, your meme is ass, and you're in league with the contarian trolls ruining this place.
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>>2613309Just normal non-liable sexual harassment, though there's something weird going on behind the veil because a bunch of former LTT hosts have being fired and have since started their own youtube channels over the last few months. Like 3 or 4 regular hosts.
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