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>>2655550Remember, legal + illegal struggle
Remember, praxis + theory
Remember, it's not impossible
Another thread for the left-wing of imperialism smh
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Daily reminder that ice agents are fascist imperialist settler labor aristocrat petty bourgeois. Ice agents are not real proletarians
Have been absent these days, there's a strike soon in Minneapolis right? Seems like there will be a lot of people on strike?
>>2657235Also some chud got manhandled and had his tacticool shit stolen.
2020 blm performative nonsense again
United Spectacle of Amerikkka
>>2657220also, bond yields and bond prices are inversely correlated, so if you see a spike in yields it's the same as saying bond prices dropped sharply
>>2657276it do be like that
>>2656795You engage in petite-bourgeois liberal moralism. Proletarians do not gamble. Gambling is relation of surplus-value distribution. Gambling requires capital. Gambling is a bourgeois problem and therefore good. Gambling requires surplus money which proles do not have. "Proletarian gambler" is oxymoronic.
Proletarian buying scratch off is nothing like how you describe it. If a proletarian has 5 surplus dollars at end of month, buying scratch ticket does not ruin them.
You guys ever have the urge to strangle anyone who has a soyjak folder
Denmark pension fund sold their dollars or something. I dunno how it works but basically something is happening!!!
>>2657296
You.
You will die
I know they'll never do it but it would be unfathomably based for Danish troops to hide in Nuuk with hundreds of NLAWs and conduct the biggest ambush on US troops since Vietnam. We would still need to see an aircraft carrier sink before burgers drop their invincibility myth but my god would it be the true heralding of multipolarity. Please God, all I'm asking for is one (1) destroyed burger armor column.
>>2657305Diesel subs are really good at killing carriers in war games at least
Now as it happens Denmark scrapped their sub fleet at the request of the eternal burger some 20 years back
THEY'VE BEEN PLANNING THIS ALL ALONG<While the final decision to discontinue the submarine programme remains unclear, there has been speculation, that it was due to a lack of requirements for Danish submarine capabilities from NATO.[citation needed] A former adviser for the American NATO mission told The New York Times in 2023 that the Danish were "told to stop wasting money building submarines."[15]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarines_in_the_Royal_Danish_Navy >>2657299
you will d-ACK!
>>2657311Danish social democracy or inferior Amerikkkan capitalist authocracy? Your choice, Greenland.
>>2657311Yuropoors should get the guys who blew up Nord Stream to blow up a destroyer or two. It would be kino as fuck except I would feel bad for the families of Filipino sailors
>>2657235Protests have already fizzled out, this “strike” will amount to nothing just like every other bit of liberal performance art
>>2657276They don't think it be like that but it do.
how is literally every other post ITT the same "americans aren't proles americans will never revolution" variant. feels like brigading
>>2657356not only use VPN. don't use bloatware that produces adds, like tinder. the adds are collecting data and ICE uses that data with AI tools to raid areas.
>>2657367ngl I sometimes forget the level of bad experience+security most people are dealing with.
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>>2657375The dedollarization will be extremely limited and is already happening
How long until the petrodollar is defunct.
>>2657375>>2657384NOTHINGEVERHAPPENSNOTHING. EVER. HAPPENS.WAIT FOR THE NEXT DEMOCRAT GOVERNMENT GET ELECTED, WAIT TRUMP TO CUCK IN INTO NEOLIBERALISM
THE BURGERREICH WILL NEVER COLLAPSE, ICE WILL STOP, EVERYTHING WILL GO BACK TO "NORMAL", THE US WILL GO BACK TO REGIME CHANGING, THE DOLLAR WILL CONTINUE BEING THE RESERVE CURRENCY
CHINA AND RUSSIA WILL CONTINUE INTO A CUCK WAR WITH THE U.S.A AND NATO
EUROPE WILL CUCK
NO 2ACW
NO WORLD REVOLUTION
>>265738432 hours, 12 minutes. Make it count.
>>2657393this really activates my almonds
>BREAKING: Trump says that if Macron is 'hostile' to Board of Peace invitation, he will impose 200% tariff on French wines and champagnes.
>>2657397BREAKING NEW EXCLUSIVE FRESH DOPE LIVE UPDATE BOMBSHELL
leave that booj shit at the door, please comrade
>>2657398you is going to die anyways also dumb dumb, this is just the extension of 1991, and climate change is coming
>>2657403yo the girls twerking, want in on this? lemme buy you a drink brother
>BREAKING: President Trump: Signed an executive order to bring back mental institutions and insane asylums.
>>2657402What, would you like to live in ignorance, and be oblivious to what's happening?
>>2657426If he were based, he would mean Falun Gong.
>>2657425I'm not saying it's bad to post news updates.
I'm saying you don't need to bring all the clickbait attention-grabbing fluff like "BREAKING" when you're sharing headlines in a community forum.
Please snip off the useless ALL-CAPS prefixes. (It's not even breaking anymore anyway, I read that headline hours ago)
and by the way, we get news from other sources. We weren't all just living in a dark cave of ignorance and obviousness before you started reposting mainstream headlines to leftypol.org so the scotus punted on the tariffs ruling again today. not clear when they're ever going to finally rule anything, but if they can't grow a pair and just rule that one guy arbitrarily and unilaterally imposing/unimposing/changing tax rates every day on his personal whim is unconstitutional, they are just worthless and the whole american "experiment" should just be considered over and dissolve.
According to sources there's a big uptick in feds being planted undercover in protests specifically to act as agent provocateurs.
They're there specifically to do something violent, to encourage you to do something arrestable, and/or graffiti or chant something the media can then use against protestors, etc.
If you're going out keep your wits about you for these fuckers. Who will try to egg you into doing or saying something they can get you for. Call them out and throw them out when you see them.
So does the general strike on Friday apply for the entire nation or is it just localized in Minneapolis/St Paul?
Surprisingly belligerent speech from Mark Carney today. For the TLDW:
>The old world order (i.e. the Western coalition) is over and isn't coming back>Middle powers can no longer rely on the protection of great powers>Middle powers should not seek to appease great powers and should resist pressure from them>Canada sides unequivocally with Denmark over Greenland, and remains committed to NATO Article 5>smaller countries should seek a diversity of alliances and partners instead of being beholden and dependent on great powersHonestly couldn't believe my ears. Dude is basically saying that US hegemony is dead and that Canada shouldn't mourn it, that it should never seek to appease the Americans, and that it should be willing to defend itself before trying to appease aggressive neighbours.
Full transcript for those interested (WARNING: ANTI-COMMUNIST CRINGE INSIDE)
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/read-mark-carneys-full-speech-on-middle-powers-navigating-a-rapidly-changing-world/ar-AA1UBFyI>>2657433>>2657433I know this might comes as a shock to you, but lpol is the news sources for many comrades.
>>2657436>p-please stay peaceful and don't cause property damage. Be like MLK and Gandhi!>>2657438They've done it before with cointelpro and various right wing militias. It's a reasonable assumption they will try again with the most recent protestors. If you do anything legally questionable then you need to mitigate the possible risk with some basic opsec in any case.
>>2657436What if I want to encourage violence and the breakdown of civil order and I'm not a fed just an adventurist that thinks it would be epic?
>>2657449>>p-please stay peaceful and don't cause property damage. Be like MLK and Gandhi!In order to be effective violence always needs to be deployed carefully, appropriately and with discipline. The whole point of agent provocateurs is to get people to use it carelessly and without discipline.
>>2657453just because people on the ground think it's spontaneous doesn't mean someone didn't plan it.
>>2657446wait until he gets a trumpedo call.
>>2657446Comrade Carney will lead us into socialism
>>2657449>They've done it before with cointelpro and various right wing militias. It's a reasonable assumption they will try again with the most recent protestors. If you do anything legally questionable then you need to mitigate the possible risk with some basic opsec in any case.What you said has nothing to do with the post you replied to.
>>2657448No-one is reliant on this thread for US news.
>>2657447this is hands down the most insane thing I've seen in 6 months or more. kudos
>>2657232What so Friedly we whale'd
at the burger's last sizzling
>>26574382 of them where caught on camera being collected by ICE during the Jake protest thing.
>>26573901. no
2. it's unsustainable
>>2657468his entire channel is full of incel piano-vocal solo work. I've never seen anyone dedicated never having bitches.
>>2657466>No-one is reliant on this thread for US news.talk for yourself. ITT, and every relevant event in the world that required a thread has provided me news, with a left-leaning and Marxist analysis. I've provided some, many other comrades have done it.
See:
>>2657474 (NTA)
>>2657466>What you said has nothing to do with the post you replied to.Anon asked for sources showing agent provocateurs and undercover cops exist. Is that even worth googling and posting links?
Left wingers should have a opsec system set up as if they exist anyway.
>>2657477I respect it. Guy looks like he has every possible ancestry except asian. He can do whatever he wants
Indianan judge Steven Meyer shot in assassination attempt, in stable condition. Status: sizzle?
>>2657456no shit, that's not his point
>>265748810 hours ago apparently; tried to post a link but mods are flagging "suspicious post" now when I try to post the link…
>>2657438>Might as well say "it came to me in a dream"during the GF protests in 2020, someone recorded a fed infiltrating the protests. He was a Black American. The police came by tried to arrest him, and when they got annoyed of his smug arrogance and went to arrest him, he vocally said, while he was being handcuffed, that they needed to check his documents. Once the pigs searched his pockets, and took his wallet, saw the documents, they put a pale scared face.
they let him go.
I remember the guy was chilling, lying against an utility pole, as if 'don't mind me, I'm just chilliing bro, just minding my business'.
so it's not farfetched they are infiltrating these protests, too.
>>2657487Countries about to be visited by the US army always say that, it's just in the north now
>>2657486>let's see if that's true, or bessent is bullshitting everyoneOf course he's bullshitting. The sheer size of the European economy and volume or trade with the US means that they have weight to throw around, whether denying imports or markets. To believe otherwise is to believe that the US needs neither the imports are markets of the rest of the world, as if globalized capitalism wasn't a thing.
>>2657494Luckily China doesn't hold a grudge and is always willing to trade and work constructively.
>>2657486As a general rule any and every economist is just an ideologue trying to shill their specific ideology through "Facts and Logic." I've never met one that isn't a lying bullshitter trying to sell you something. Maybe it's just due to the breakdown of objectivity in academia but economics as a field of study always rubbed me the wrong way with how often economists treat their vibes as objective truth.
I realize the irony of posting this take on a Marxist website but in Marx's day most mainstream economists thought he was crazy lol.
>>2657497>Luckily China doesn't hold a grudge and is always willing to trade and work constructively.Yes they'll send a strongly worded letter at the UN and resume trade with 52nd state of Amerikkka
>>2657487well, trump is going to learn the hard way that Europe can bites back hard, too, and that have a bunch of yessir people is the worst thing you could have.
>>2657491actually now that I look it up it was days ago, I assumed it was very recent by how little info there seems to be
>>2657502For people who supposedly oppose US imperialism you sure seem convinced that its invincible.
>>2657503>well, trump is going to learn the hard way that Europe can bites back hard, toolol
>>2657501>I've never met one that isn't a lying bullshitter trying to sell you somethingwell, liberal economics try to market liberal economics as the solution to every problem. once they cheered free market, they are long gone now. I try to rely on Marxists economists, or what liberals call 'unorthodox' economists.
Denmark has clearly neglected Greenland to such a shameful degree that the United States is basically forced to step in and take control for the island's own good.
Denmark has been coasting for decades on the bare minimum: sending a relatively tiny annual block grant (a few hundred million dollars) while leaving Greenland's 56,000 people to deal with crumbling infrastructure, almost no road system, decaying housing, skyrocketing living costs, and accelerating climate damage that Denmark refuses to seriously fund or mitigate. Greenlandic towns are literally falling apart or sliding into the sea because of permafrost melt, and Denmark's response has mostly been bureaucratic shrugs and promises of "more studies."
The airport projects and a few harbor upgrades Denmark likes to brag about are laughably inadequate for an area the size of a continent. Most settlements still rely on expensive helicopter or boat access because Denmark never bothered building proper transport links. Healthcare, education, and housing shortages are chronic — problems that would be national scandals anywhere else but are apparently acceptable when the population is small and far away.
Meanwhile, Greenland sits on enormous untapped rare-earth minerals, potential oil/gas, and strategic Arctic real estate that the rest of the world (especially China and Russia) is already circling. Denmark has neither the money nor the political will to develop these resources responsibly or defend the territory properly. They've basically turned Greenland into a neglected, under-invested colony while pretending the 2009 autonomy deal magically solved everything.
The United States, by contrast, already operates Thule Air Base there and has the capital, engineering capacity, and strategic interest to turn Greenland into a modern, prosperous, well-defended Arctic hub. American control would mean serious investment in roads, ports, broadband, housing, renewable energy grids, and actual economic development instead of the current slow-bleed Danish subsidy model that keeps Greenland dependent and stagnant.
Greenlanders themselves might grumble at first, but once they see real money flowing in, modern infrastructure, better jobs, and actual protection from climate and geopolitical threats instead of endless Copenhagen platitudes, the benefits would become obvious. Sovereignty lectures from Denmark ring pretty hollow when they've failed to deliver meaningful progress after 300+ years of "responsibility."
>>2657498I haven't seen anything other than they're both stable.
>>2657510>Denmark has been coasting for decades on the bare minimum: sending a relatively tiny annual block grant (a few hundred million dollars) while leaving Greenland's 56,000 people to deal with crumbling infrastructure, almost no road system, decaying housing, skyrocketing living costs, and accelerating climate damage that Denmark refuses to seriously fund or mitigate. Greenlandic towns are literally falling apart or sliding into the sea because of permafrost melt, and Denmark's response has mostly been bureaucratic shrugs and promises of "more studies."This but the average US city/state instead of Greenland
>>2657508>>2657510Oh hey look! A chud to deradicalize or whatever.
Hey, chud. Have you considered logic and empathy? Try it sometime <3
>>2657512Bruj, pic 2 is a chinese bridge? You can't immediately tell that is nowhere in north America? I thought ypu were canadian.
>>2657510This post brought to you by ChaptGPT™
>>2657518>pic 2 is a chinese bridge?Not only Chinese, but also shopped. The U.S. has plenty of hazardous, failing infrastructure to choose from.
>>2657507if the EU decides to stop buying US weapons, that can hurt like a bitch to the US.
I am 100% sure that the main US industry is the weapon manufacturing industries, the so called MIC.
>>2657520The Francis Scott Key bridge comes to mind.
>>2657508
>jargon
They have 56k people, there is no hope for muh GDP there
>>2657486bessent is like a retard, he nervously waffles on TV each time he's on and he seems like he's in over his head and spent half of trump's first year wanting to jump ship
>>2657506USA is not invincible but the chances of the EU or Canada making a full break to align with China are basically zero.
>>2657521Are they going to build their own weapons?
Whatever happened to street fight radio?
>>2657528>but the chances of the EU or Canada making a full break to align with China are basically zeroPeople keep saying this but it's simply not based on anything. The US is currently destroying all the leverage it had over these countries. It used to be they were compelled to remain in the US orbit due to reliance on America for trade and security, but Trump has removed both those incentives. The prevailing opinion seems to be that the bourgeoisie of these countries won't pursue their interests because "they're cucks" or some other unscientific nonsense. Don't you think that if they wanted to capitulate they would be manufacturing consent for that instead of doing literally the opposite?
>>2657532nta, but the compelling case the US is making is to use force, showing they kidnap people like they did with Maduro. Now, will the US kidnap, say, Carney? Starmer? let's see how much can these people feign some self-determination. I know Carney deep down fears that Canada is next after Greenland:
>>2657446 >>2657533>nta, but the compelling case the US is making is to use force, showing they kidnap people like they did with Maduro.it's actually a show of weakness, the US wasnt able to perform an invasion proper so they settled for a decapitation strike, the US has no plan to follow up. As news slowly leak and trickle down it also shows that it was less than a clean operation. Like what are they going to do, wait for the holidays again to kidnap Carney?
>>2657533>but the compelling case the US is making is to use forceNo empire in history has ever survived by using force as the primary means of keeping itself together. They survive by building alliances with key elements of the people they are attempting to govern. Rome extended citizenship to the nobility of the kingdoms they conquered, or else ruled through client kings. Britain cultivated the support of Indian princes and landowners, educating their children in England and turning them into colonial administrators. Prior to Trump, America exercised influence by building a network of subordinate allies that outsourced their security to the US in exchange for American protection of their interests. All of this was always backed by force obviously, but it was combined with powerful incentives to remain loyal. In the absence of these an empire will inevitably be overextended trying to beat all its subjects into submission. What the Americans are doing right now would be like if the Romans told all the Socii to shove it and started revoking their rights as allies of Rome right as Hannibal was rolling into Italy.
>I know Carney deep down fears that Canada is next after GreenlandThat just reinforces my point. If he genuinely fears Canada will be annexed then this response becomes even more provocative. He's essentially saying that the Americans will get no cooperation from the Canadian government, and his government is of course a mouthpiece for the Canadian bourgeoisie. Again, if he wanted to capitulate then he would be focusing on preparing the Canadian population to become Americans, but he's doing precisely the opposite.
>>2657532>but it's simply not based on anythingExcept decades of history following WW2.
>It used to be they were compelled to remain in the US orbit due to reliance on America for trade and security, but Trump has removed both those incentives. Forgetting the trade between USA and EU directly the EU's other trade networks piggy backing of the US's networks and sphere of influence. US not only funds and supplies NATO directly the US military, navy airforce is the main power keeping markets open for the EU around the world.
>Don't you think that if they wanted to capitulate they would be manufacturing consent for that instead of doing literally the opposite?They are trying to squirm out of the consequences of their actions. This is just them saying they wont give up everything without some negotiation. All it takes is the Bourgeoisie of EU being given enough bribes and then the consent manufacturing machine goes the other way.
>>2657539>Except decades of history following WW2.Decades of history that operated under a now-nonexistent paradigm and set of relations.
>US not only funds and supplies NATO directly the US military, navy airforce is the main power keeping markets open for the EU around the worldRight, NATO essentially replaced the need for European states to worry about their own security or foreign interests since the US was handling it. But if the Americans are themselves a security threat and don't give a shit about the foreign interests of their allies, then what's the point?
>All it takes is the Bourgeoisie of EU being given enough bribes and then the consent manufacturing machine goes the other way.That's my point. Trump is loudly proclaiming that he's going to take away the bribes.
>>2657436>Who will try to egg you into doing or saying something they can get you for.they can get you for walking around without an ID, dummy. they dont need agent provocateurs already, you should already think of yourself as a potential target, and act accordingly.
>>2657534would you eat this for 2 dollar
>>2657384tonight
its happening tonight
>>2657540All of that is irrelevant because of Russophobia. Fact is that Americans could demand Euroids sacrifice their firstborn and they would gladly do it because the alternative is getting cut from the fourth reich's teat and leaving them unable to carry out Generalplan Ost 2. No US support means hoholistan goes bye bye and everyone knows it.
>>2657446wow, Carney speech was more fiery than I initially thought:
https://nitter.net/DropSiteNews/status/2013666284441915460anti-communism aside, he laid down some
fuck you, US there.
am i crazy i seriously think bernie zionders could have easily purchased another 50 years of american hegemony and liberalism and burgertards decided to throw that away for biden and now we're here
>>2657538>Rome extended citizenship to the nobility of the kingdoms they conquered, or else ruled through client kings. Remember when Caesar genocided the Gauls? Depending on the situation the leadership of an empire plays hardball. To be clear I'm not saying Trump will go total war here but he is signalling he's playing harder than normal.
>What the Americans are doing right now would be like if the Romans told all the Socii to shove it and started revoking their rights as allies of RomeEssentially that is what lead to the Social War. In the end Rome became stronger by subjugating and incorporating the independent tribes into itself. This seems like a first step in that direction of formally combining EU and USA into one block.
>>2657540>now-nonexistent paradigm and set of relations.If anything it's even worse for the EU. There is no USSR waiting in the wings to welcome them. A vengeful Russia and a mercenary China isn't anything close to the Soviet Union.
>But if the Americans are themselves a security threat and don't give a shit about the foreign interests of their allies, then what's the point? You seem to be missing the fact EU doesn't have many options. Their economy barely stay afloat as it is and that with them being reliant on the US military. It's on the same level as Canada's threats to have some guerrilla war if they are invaded. Utterly laughable.
>Trump is loudly proclaiming that he's going to take away the bribes.No he's telling them to take the bribes of money and sell Greenland. He's telling them to relinquish pretensions of being an independent colonial power that only the USA should hold that mantle.
>>2657547>we-we will take Ukraine if the us pulls backRuzzionista cope
>>2657549Bernie would've been cucked at every point because the government doesn't want change or for things to improve for the working class. The president may have "authority" to do whatever they want but without effective and loyal underlings that can implement your policy it's basically pointless. Even if he tried to go nuclear and ignored congress, we would've had 4-8 years of every state slow-rolling his reforms until his term was over and then immediately going back to capitalism as usual. This is why social democracy doesn't work. You're only allowed the "reforms" the bourgeois approve of and not an inch more.
>>2657556>Their economy barely stay afloat as it isAre they really substantially worse off than the US?
>with them being reliant on the US militaryExcept that the US military is no longer the giving them the thing that they're relying on it for. I agree that if anything will force the Europeans to play ball it would be fear of Russia, but at this point Russia has yet to threaten the territorial integrity of an EU or NATO state. They're arguably less of a threat at this point.
>It's on the same level as Canada's threats to have some guerrilla war if they are invaded. Are you aware of the political mood in this country vis a vis the US?
>>2657562
>just imagining this hypothetical beautiful woman that im into walking in, seeing me, and just instant ick, zero aura, game over
and there it is
>>2657534it's the pride of someone who is mentally a toddler shitting his pants to spite his liberal mother
>>2657562
you are young. you still have many chances, just focus on getting good at something that gives you money. and don't focus on women for now. it's not hard. and if you need sex, just hook up with an escort.
do your praxis carefully segregated from your work, you learned that lesson alright, unless there are whispers to form a union.
>>2657531the one silver-lining is that 4chan is probably the best it's been since before 2016
>>2657573That bar is buried six feet under but I'll take your word for it
>>2657570fatty chicken nugget holding up those posters like he and his cabinet members haven't done the same shit and worse.
>>2657558>hundred of billions in munitions and equipment actually don't do anything to prop up an armydo ukrops really believe this?
>>2657565>Are they really substantially worse off than the US?Yes. EU doesn't sink trillions into their military and still struggle.
>Except that the US military is no longer the giving them the thing that they're relying on it for. They rely on the US military to keep markets and trade lanes open throughout the world not just directly in the EU itself.
>the political moodI'm sure it's bad but does that translate into a real ability to fight without a real army? Honestly I doubt the US will take over directly but pull a Venezuela. Replace the leadership with friendly collaborators and have some corporate advisor with private security control everything in the background. At that point Canadians who do fight will just be killing other Canadians.
i would probably benefit from not comparing myself to other leftists who are actually successful, like these youtubers and podcasters just make so much more money than me that it's obvious whatever they are doing has more value than anything i could contribute to the movement
>>2657578I definitely wouldn't say that popularity = value.
>>2657447Democracia and economy destroyed but at least Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg let you say the heckin N word in their social media
>>2657565Just to be clear: hypothetically I may consider the possibility in my mind to possibly maybe (non actionable parody joke) defect to Canada and join your communist party if this happens
>>2657577>>2657582let's make fun of the most vulnerable and underprivileged, that'll learn them
>>2657584grow up man addiction is a public health issue and therefore a public health failure not an individual one. we're making fun of the state of america not your addict aunt.
>>2657583Not necessary comrade, simply work towards revolutionary defeatism in your own country.
Americans can’t afford groceries? Give them AI generated child porn and the N word pass on Twitter, that’ll guarantee no communist revolution like in China
>>2657589I hate it so much here please god take me
It will never cease to infuriate me that Nazis can unironically and sincerely call for another Holocaust 24/7 on /pol/ but if I say I want Trump dead because he wants to attack my country and kill innocent people it's an instant ban.
>>2657591ok comrade
im dropping you to uruguay sir
>>2657592Lately I've seen that euroids and amerikuckkks on pol are at each other's throats to that's a good sign at least
>>2657592I doubt rapeape really cares if you want to kill Trump they just don't want the liability if you actually succeeded. Same reason they ban you for threatening a mass shooting.
Personally I think it would be a waste though I want Trump to live long enough to destroy America.
>>2657590Life is still very good for a consoomer in the US despite egg prices rising. If people aren't revolting in fucking India or Nigeria the idea that Americans will take up arms just because rent goes up is extremely retarded.
>>2657590also a revenue as b8 engagement.
>>2657598I dunno what's worse, the egg price meme itself or the fact so many dipshits took it seriously.
>>2657597And if he takes down Europe and the settler colonies along the way, all the better
>>2657598People don't take up arms because of poverty, they do it in a power vacuum, or else in self defence.
None zero chance that in the future we learn that the Trump administration was history's most compromised by foreign intelligence wreckers administration in world history. The motherfucker is doing revolutionary defeatism better than any commie could dream
>>2657607>None zero chance that in the future we learn that the Trump administration was history's most compromised by foreign intelligence isnt this just russiagate
>>2657607Never underestimate the power of unchecked mental conditions. Narcissist personality disorder, in this case.
>>2657609NTA but I'm starting to think maybe the libs were right, this is some kind of long awaited revenge for the fall of the Soviet Union and the plan has finally come to fruition. "If we cant be a super power, neither can you". If so, well played on Russia's part. We're going to balkanize in the manner we deserve, in the stupidest way possible
>>2657609The correct take is that russiagate is good actually. Death to America.
>Insert puppet meme where Trump controlled by Russia, controlled by China, controlled by Trotskyists >>2657609No one really denied russiagate. Trump was just worse at covering up his corruption compared to past presidents and was also less selective of who he accepted bribes from. They literally were like "Trump has so many entanglements that its impossible to figure out which ones are illegal and which ones are legal because our legal system is a joke" and that was it. He very much did accept bribes from Russians, but also from Ukrainians, Israelis, Saudis, Qataris, Emiratis, Europeans, Africans, and every other country on Earth. The mistake of Libs, as usual, was fixating on Russia instead of questioning why the President was accepting bribes at all.
The problem with this theory is that cucktin would never attack the west
>>2657619Hahahahahahaha good one anon
>>2657608Lèse-majesté laws are back, baby.
>>2657613How does balkanization in America result from pressuring Denmark to give up land?
russiagate has the tinge of magic to it, this is why libs who believe the USA is fundamentally a perfect project believe it, in truth you've always had senile czars at the helm
>>2657622If he seriously tries to start a war over it, which is looking increasingly likely, and if the anti-ICE protests in Minneapolis and elsewhere keep spiraling or they try to do a heavy handed crackdown then at bare minimum we're getting some kind of civil war, if not a shitload of states just breaking off from the madness entirely
>>2657625I doubt it would result in an actual civil war in the US unless the military split over blowing up NATO.
>>2657625Worst case the democrats will take the cue and stabilize stuff by giving some scraps to the plebs
>>2657613As the Ukraine invasion proves, the Russians simply aren't smart enough to pull something like that off. No, this is simply the result of America being THAT fucking stupid.
>>2657601It's weird because even in a house with three people, it takes us maybe 2 and a half weeks to get through a dozeuyghs. How many eggs are these people eating? If they'd raised tofu to, like $10 a pack, though, no one would hear the end of it from me.
I'm wondering when or if the Dems are gonna get it through their heads that "peaceful protests" aren't going to accomplish shit. Maybe they're just in denial, because otherwise there is no way you can possibly believe that not fighting back will somehow appeal to the better nature of people who have no better nature.
>>2657633>I'm wondering when or if the Dems are gonna get it through their heads that "peaceful protests" aren't going to accomplish shit. wdym, they like ICE, they fully support it.
>>2657626I know a couple of people in my area who are in the national guard and they're already pissed off at the administration for dragging them around to DC for propaganda photo opps. Torching American hegemony over Greenland and a fucking nobel peace prize could very well get a lot of soldiers willing to disobey orders, if for nothing else than for to save face
>>2657628I dont see that happening. Wine mom radicalization is real and they're ready to lynch the Dems alongside the Republicans when the time comes. It'll take some serious reforms not seen since the New Deal and full prosecution of everyone involved in the Trump administration plus ICE plus complicit Democrats to get people to calm down, and the bourgeoisie would rather burn everything down than make that level of compromise again.
>>2657629Mayhaps they were pretending to be retarded. Perchance.
>>2657626The military might split over being used against their own citizens, especially considering the states have their own national guards, militias, and 2nd amendment was literally no shit written for the anticipation of oppressive government (as well as anti-quartering)
my russiagate theory is russia's attack on america wasn't very sophisticated but america is in such an advanced state of decay that it worked anyways
>>2657633The Dems are fundamentally deeply incapable of acting on or realizing this fact. To their very core.
>>2657631In the event of a conflict or constitutional crisis CA will not become militant, it will be lawfare at best
Unless it seriously and directly threatens either SV's or Hollywood's bottom line more than the alternative
>>2657635>I dont see that happeningI hope you're right, anon
>>2657633Their function is to pacify protests
>>2657637There was no attack.
They just bribed some politicians and public officials. It's only framed as an attack because it was Russia instead of Israel.
>>2657606The treatlerite labor aristocrats take arms to make proletarians poor to defend the imperialist extraction of treats.
>>2657641>They just bribed some politicians and public officials.Most countries who can afford it are bribing US officials, that's the price you pay for being a hegemon
>>2657641lol, it's an attack when israel does it. america is not a sovereign nation. the relationship is not normal.
>>2657633fyi, cory booker just came out two days ago saying they are going to vote for a bill that will force ice agents to have more training, with even the stupid idea of forcing the use of body cameras, as if they aren't recording everything with their phones already.
>>2657637In MY theory, It's not just Russia, but they play the heel. They can be the big baddie that the libs freak out over, but in reality it's also the
entire anti-imperialist intelligence bloque, infiltrating the entire USA superstructure and tipping the scales towards revolutionary defeatism.
They fucking
hate the USA. With a deep and burning passion. And intelligence is always happening, we spy on each other constantly and we all know it and accept it. And the USA Trump administration is the most easily bribe-able administration I can imagine.
"Hey Donny, you should
totally try and take Greenland because fuck NATO", whispered literally everyone buying his memecoins and giving him airplanes
>>2657647>They can be the big baddie that the libs freak out over, but in reality it's also the entire anti-imperialist intelligence bloque, infiltrating the entire USA superstructure and tipping the scales towards revolutionary defeatism. lmfao you are starting to sound like a wine mom, why are you here
>>2657641Wasn't another "attack" ruZZia paying the big tech companies to run ads aimed at sowing partisan division during an election period? which libs framed as pro-Trump intervention
>>2657584what do we do with drug addicts
>>2657648Isn't it a good sign if wine moms are posting here though? It means they're radicalizing
>>2657648No dumbass. I'm saying this is
good >>2657566Should at least unite the californias tbhdesu.
Every single American deeply hopes for another civil war. We all fucking hate it here. The number of times I've heard a coworker mention we might have a civil war in our lifetimes is astronomical. We want this. Give it to us.
>>2657652Sadly wine moms are one of the most reactionary cliques on the planet.
>>2657653this isn't anti-imperialist subterfuge, this is really legitimately what trump and his viziers think, it's the logical endpoint to american exceptionalism, that you can re-organize the world and transform the entire economy into a worldwide racketeering operation. this has been what retards like curtis yarvin have been writing about for decades.
>>2657655Dim Tool might have been right after all, though not for the reasons he'd like or admit.
>>2657655Man so many people are way too gleeful at the prospect for my liking. Very violent people here.
>>2657637My russiagate theory from being twrminally online during that 2016 campaign is that there was little to no Russian involvement and the biggest internet election interference was done by a 400lb hacker known as 4chan and his crippled cousin 8chan, sometimes known as cripplechan.
That whole russiagate narrative is nuts when you were actually there and know who they are actually referring to is the Chud Internationale. They really did have plans to run home brew psy op campaigns, and they were very successful. Russia had nothing to do with it. The claim Rissia stole the election with some facebook click bait ads nobody saw that weren't even political. Obviously it was 4chan and pepe that dominated that election. Russia had nothing to do with it.
>>2657657Didn't le Moldy Bug ditch MAGA recently because they were too focussed on kissing Trump's retarded ass and not enough on bringing back Feudalism?
like just take the people at their word, they think the pretense of the rules based order to be an annoying obstacle for their deranged pedophile fantasies of rape and looting and they have been at war with it.
>>2657662he quit writing because he think claude is smarter than him, he's going full AI schizo
>>2657657You are correct but you have to take it a step further: what they want is both fucking stupid, and impossible. The actually not stupid Chinese (actual communists) and Russians (not communist they just hate us) know this.
If you wanted to destroy America… And you could influence their leadership… Wouldn't you want to encourage their most delusional narcissists to chase their impossible dreams, wasting everything in the process?
I'm just saying it's more than plausible.
>>2657657>this is really legitimately what trump and his viziers thinkThis. I never would have believed it possible before, but it actually seems like events of world-historical importance are being driven primarily by idiocy. Any partisan of the American empire that actually understands how US power works could see the monumental self-destrictiveness of undermining the basis of your global power to gain something you already had. These people just don't understand why the US become the global empire it is, how it sustains that empire, or why it needs it.
>>2657660and libs usually overlook the billions the adelsons, the saban, the singers, and other zionist billionaires have been pouring in the US electoral campaigns.
>>2657661Also, the idea that Russia is even capable of influencing the US at all. Lmao. Look how bad RT propaganda is. Haz and Hinkle, are their strongest soldiers lmafofo. Unless you think Hinkle actually influences in America lol.
>>2657664>Wouldn't you want to encourage their most delusional narcissists to chase their impossible dreamsif you're china you want a stable world order where you've been able to conduct business rather successfully in, if your name is Putin, you're a dumb monkey ranting about ancient historical disputes, your theory verges on magical thinking, there's no anti-imperialists in control, this is why everyone's alarmed..
>>2657661russia also hacked dnc/rnc servers, and released the dem shit, and kept the gop shit as kompromat
>>2657666Revolutionary defeatism requires manufacturing a widespread constitutional, political, jurisdictional, and territorial crisis. Jdpon Don is the golden goose
>>2657625I wish, but a majority of the military that isn't composed of immigrants or children to immigrants is composed of chuds who would kiss Trumps ass if he ordered them too, not even getting into LEO or police forces. Not only that but the Democratic party have cultivated of passivity and weakness within their own party to even try anything, the democratic party being virulently anti-gun doesn't help either even in the face of an ultra-militant right wing federal government which won't do them any favors. Beyond dancing I don't see the party or Democrats as a movement as a whole offering any substantial resistance. Maybe some lone or independent groups will form weather underground type cells and do something.
>>2657565>Are you aware of the political mood in this country vis a vis the US?What is the firearms situation in Canada? (Honestly asking, I genuinely do not know.) What if the US just sets up bases near critical resource sites and focuses on controlling supply routes, and occasionally assassinating or abducting a leader, are people going to risk their lives to resist this kind of occupation?
>>2657673The issue wouldn't be the rank and file who don't like ICE or don't wanna invade Canada or whatever. The real threat to Trump would come from experienced generals who actually understand how the US empire works and want to preserve it instead of blowing it up for no reason.
>>2657659Americans don't know what civil war actually entails. Most of them assume it'll be like their European color revolutions of just young people marching in the streets and waving flags. The reality is millions will die ofc but Americans assume someone else will fight it for them.
>>2657676I thought Trump and kegsbreath already completed their purge of the military leadership that wasn't loyal to them. But if true I guess there is some hope after all.
>>2657675>Snuff supply routesBuddy they have the A R C T I C
The
moment the United States has any kind of territorial dispute, the hourglass is flipped.
>>2657625>>2657631Thinking the USA will collapse by itself is insanely optimistic. Lefty version of the two more weeks meme.
There is not enough of a left for there to be civil war currently. Liberals aren't going to become guerrillas or joins a revolutionary army over Greenland, Mexico, Canada or immigration policy. In the near term Blues State will have a bunch of local liberal polices to placate their constituency and leftist protestors will be thrown into prison.
If the economy collapses then we will see civil war conditions but until then it's wish-casting.
>>2657680I don't think they can actually fill the military officer ranks with loyal goons without severely destroying the military's actual capabilities/war readiness. It would probably be a good thing for the Left if Trump fired every competent military commander and replaced them with loyalists. The people's revolutionary army needs commanders too.
>>2657680They don't really have to. Even though it's obvious most of the general officers hate those retards, they're also total authoritah cucks. No different from Weimar generals - hate Nazis, but if the Nazis are in charge they follow all their orders anyway, grumbling the whole time but still insisting it's better to serve your country no matter what it's doing or who's in charge of it. There is no better case study for the absolute brainrot that nationalism causes to people than that.
>>2657682Collapse always happens "by itself" due to crashing contradictions in the essence of the particular state political economy. There is a non-zero chance this will happen. Especially if jdpon Don keeps pushing like he is.
>>2657675>What is the firearms situation in Canada? We're #8 in the world for civilian-owned guns per capita. But honestly in a situation like that the easiest source of guns would be the US itself considering the sheer number of them and how poorly monitored they are.
>are people going to risk their lives to resist this kind of occupation?People would at the very least take to the streets out of patriotism, and the Americans (especially the current chudocracy) would inevitably botch the response to this and kill people, which I think would spark a cycle of resistance and repression. When the 51st state rhetoric first began I made a more detailed assessment about how it could be successfully pulled off. It's possible but suffice to say it would require a level of understanding of Canada's internal politics, as well as diplomatic and political sophistication that I don't think this government is capable of. Ironically a Democratic president would probably have a much easier time making it work. The thing is that even a small insurgency can very quickly become a large one if people are already resentful of a foreign presence, and that presence becomes even more intrusive and onerous as a response to even minor insurgent activity.
>>2657650Article 84: Any of the following acts are punished by detention of between 10 and 15 days, and may be concurrently fined up to 3,000 RMB; where the circumstances are more minor, they are to be detained for up to 5 days or fined up to 1,000 RMB:
(1) illegally possessing less than 200 grams of opium or heroin, less than 10 grams of methamphetamine, or other small amounts of drugs;
(2) providing others with drugs;
(3) ingesting or injecting drugs.
(4) Coercing or tricking medical personnel to give prescriptions for narcotics or psychotropics.
Where people are gathered or organized for the ingestion or injection of drugs, the principals and organizers are to be given a heavier punishment in accordance with the provisions of the preceding paragraph.
Where drugs are ingested or injected, an order may be concurrently given that they must not enter into entertainment venues or have unauthorized contact with persons involved with drug crimes or violations for six months to one year. Those who violate the provisions are to be detained for up to five days or be fined up to 1,000 RMB.
>>2657682>There is not enough of a left for there to be civil war currently.Well the US is just inches away from reaching an irrecoverable joblessness spiral when AI inevitably collapses and erases 40% of the stock market, we'll see then.
>>2657691Also you don't need a "left" to have a civil war that's entirely ahistorical. You have a civil war over deep contradictions and power vacuums
>>2657685lol i remember chapo mocking yarvin for sounding like a harry potter lib, and turns out he literally is one
>>2657693>You have a civil war over deep contradictions and power vacuumsThat is my point. Currently the American liberal and conservative bourgeoisie don't have that big a difference between them to cause civil war which is why a large left would be needed. Invading Greenland, Mexico, Canada and being too aggressive with anti-immigration policy are not enough by themselves. Of course an economic collapse would turn the anti-capitalist left into a powerhouse which could drive a civil war forward.
>>2657686God why is everybody in the current system who has a miligram of power is either cartoonishly evil or complete cuck.
>>2657694>>2657694fun fact, yarvin is married to an ex-bernie sis. or at least, that's what the newyorker said:
https://archive.ph/q8NWy >>2657693You need to have a "left" for a civil war where the left will come out on top obviously lol. A civil war would be between the actual groups tgat exist like the chuds vs. The back to normalcy centrists, so obviously, only one of those two would win.
>>2657701>Of course an economic collapse would turn the anti-capitalist left into a powerhouse which could drive a civil war forward.Now you are wishcasting. There is no reason to believe that would be the case. A lot of countries collapse into turmoil over economic concerns and there is no noteworthy leftist force in the conflict. There is no reason at all to assume one in that scenario.
>>2657703You have to be a total libidinally-driven lizard or else willing to eat shit for the rest of your life to get that kind of power.
I wonder if moot thinks about how he contributed to the Balkanization of the US
>>2657706Read Lenin holy shit. You need a revolutionary break to
allow the left to truly blossom in the first place. America can't get a left
without a rupture. This was true in Russia, in China, in Vietnam, in Cuba, the list goes on and on
>>2657707It is an opertunity though,
>>2657711I doubt 4chan was that influentialtbh
>>2657707Economic collapses does pump up leftist numbers. True, in a lot of conflicts they didn't manage to take advantage and claw their way to winning. But it is always a big opportunity for the left that normal economic stability can never give.
>>2657714For one, are you comparing the American left to the Bolsheviks in what year.
And on top of all that: Jesus Christ you people are such children
First off going "read Lenin" without citing anything in lieu of an argument, you haven't even proven that any such text exists tgat backs whatever simplistic claim you are naking
But even if it did, it wouldn't mean anything.
Imagine if Neo Nazis were like:
>"Holy heck! Read Hitler!" Bllahh blahh blahhI don't think any of them act this braindead even.
No, you will not magically stop being incompetent and retarded if the economy collapses.
>>2657714The irony is that if you have a strong left prior to the emergence of a revolutionary situation, it can actually work against you. If a socialist party or labour movement grows to be large and powerful enough under ordinary bourgeois conditions, it inevitably becomes integrated with the bourgeois order on some level. This is because its impossible to rise to the level of a movement of national importance without making legal inroads and gains. Then, when that order is shaken to its core and on the verge of collapse, the very same organs of worker's power that should be leading the charge of its destruction turn tail and move to save it out of fear of losing their established position. Germany in 1919 is the clearest example of this. This is also the actual meaning of the "labour aristocracy" as Lenin used the term, and you see it even in non-imperialist countries on occasion.
>>2657717Look at all the crises that are happening around the world, where is the left? Rojava? Where is the left in Iran right now?
>>2657719Wrong. The labor aristocracy does not exist outside first world.
>>2657727The term labor aristocracy was coined or at least popularized by Lenin himself, who wrote about ''Russia's own labor aristocracy" in detail. Also, "first world" wasn't a term until mao, also fuck you you're retarded
>>2657727If you're using Lenin's definition then it does. It exists wherever there are socialists who posture as revolutionary but fall in line behind their government at the first sign of trouble. The best example of this today is probably the CPI in India. They call themselves Marxists but they immediately fell in line behind their right wing government in the most recent war with Pakistan, issuing a statement of support for the war that didn't even acknowledge India's oppression of Kashmir that was the root cause of the conflict to begin with. Why should it be any different? Some career CPI politician sitting in the Kerala state legislature will be just as unlikely to sacrifice their position for the chaos and danger of revolution as an SPD deputy in the Reichstag.
>>2657731Or I have been thinking, what influence does the left have in Europe when they have large blocs of parliaments? What the fuck are they doing? To is Anericans, having a leftist party we could vote for that actually has a siginificant share of seats in government is a distant dream, but the Euros already have that, but what are they doing with it?
>>2657718>First off going "read Lenin" without citing anythingWhat Is to Be Done? and State and Revolution are the core of Lenin's revolutionary thought.
>>2657720Mostly mixed in with liberals. Leftists are weak right now because of the dissolution of the USSR. But that doesn't change the fact of capitalism driving class conflict and communism's ability to resolve it.
>>2657733>What Is to Be Done? and State and Revolution are the core of Lenin's revolutionary thought.I read it but you should cite what part you are referencing. I don't agree with your interpretation. You can't just cite an author as argument. You can't just cite a book or a pamphlet either lol.
>>2657732I think that the American and European situations are actually pretty similar. It just appears different because of the nature of the postwar social democratic compromise in either case. In Europe social democratic parties after WW2 won elections and succeeded in passing reforms that improved the lives of workers. The same thing happened in America except that instead of new parties doing this, the Democrats simply formed an alliance with the labour movement via the New Deal. In both cases the result was the same though, since both the Democrats and European socdems simply took a major neoliberal turn in the 90s. I would argue that Europeans don't really have "left" parties in parliament any more than Americans do.
>>2657729Wrong. Read Mao. Comprador class is bourgeois, not labor aristocrat.
>>2657730>The term labor aristocracy was coined or at least popularized by Lenin himself, who wrote about ''Russia's own labor aristocracy" in detail. Also, "first world" wasn't a term until mao, also fuck you you're retardedYour semantic cannot hide that you are wrong. First world and imperialist are synonymous. Russia was imperialist, therefore you are retarded.
>>2657733>Mostly mixed in with liberals. Leftists are weak right now because of the dissolution of the USSR.And lenin did it with no USSR, funny that.
>But that doesn't change the fact of capitalism driving class conflict and communism's ability to resolve it.How does it make it likely? I could have the perfect plan for the world to solve class conflict starting today, not even waiting for some indefinite fated date, but it doesn't make it likely to happen. I don't even know how this is so hard to grasp. I feel like I am explaining that water is wet. Ok, it's a good idea, why is it going to happen?
>>2657731You, sabocat, personally should goad Mr. President DJT into a Canuck Quagmire
>>2657736Semantic? Motherfucker you're using the word wrong that's not semantics. You're literally just wrong.
>>2657737I'm sorry but what the fuck even IS your argument here?
>>2657741You're not following the conversation. I said why is a left going to magically materialize in crisis and pointed out they haven't in current crises and anon's response was:
>but communism is a really good ideaAnd I am now asking how is that a response to what I am saying. The left is not likely to abiogenerate in some future imaginary crisis anymore than in any other crisis currently ongoing. "Communism is a good idea" is not a rebuttal. That is the point we are at now.
>>2657734I'm nta, just knew what works he was referencing. Also the specific passage doesn't matter just the core argument. Specific citations are really unnecessary for most imageboard discussion imo
>>2657737>And lenin did it with no USSRThe dissolution of the USSR temporarily discredited the communism project at least in the minds of many. It took a few decade before people were wondering when the capitalist utopia was supposed to show up and why things are getting worse before there was the start of a leftist revival.
>How does it make it likely? Economic crises shows the current capitalist economic system doesn't work.
>>2657689>Ironically a Democratic president would probably have a much easier time making it workHow's about the Republicans start it and take the fall for the annexation and crackdown, and then the succeeding Dem administration emphasises how oh-very-different they are. They could orchestrate some kind of performative transition or concessions to pacify the resistance, no? I guess it's not productive to speculate
>>2657745Do you also not wipe your ass because you're going to inevitably die one day? The point of doing that is so that you dont go around smelling like ass for 80+ years before you croak. The same principle applies.
>>2657746>I'm nta, just knew what works he was referencing. Also the specific passage doesn't matter just the core argument. Specific citations are really unnecessary for most imageboard discussion imoI know that. I already said the conclusions you are drawing from the text are incorrect.
>>2657748That could possibly work, but even if it succeeded in reducing armed resistance it wouldn't erase pro-independence sentiment. An end to the kind of crackdowns that would fuel armed resistance would likely lead to a large independence movement that would operate legally likely have an easy time organizing unarmed opposition, winning local elections, etc. At that point you might just end up with a Canadian "state" government that would simply secede and start the whole mess all over again. People here simply don't want to be Americans.
>>2657752motherfucker we literally are, dumbass. The DSA, CPUSA, PSL, union membership, general socialist acceptance, and
out and open socialist politicians winning elections like in NYC are growing in numbers and membership.
>>2657757In other words: we have more than enough people educated and ready to go at a moments notice to form the vanguard, and all we would need next is a revolutionary break such as something akin to a civil war or state secession.
>>2657757>>2657752>duuuude the vibes are right! leftoid politicians are cool!!! people are fine with the vaguest term there is: socialism!!!!!uh ok cool but wheres the communist movement lol
>>2657754>I already said the conclusions you are drawing from the text are incorrect.How so? He lays down basic organizational principles on how to build and seize power. Those principles apply no matter the current popularity of communism among the workers.
>>2657758>form the vanguardlol you have no idea what the vanguard is
every time i unhide this shitty thread every post is retarded lmao
>>2657761I'll have you know I saw an anarchist burning a trashcan recently
>>2657746>The dissolution of the USSR temporarily discredited the communism project at least in the minds of many. It took a few decade before people were wondering when the capitalist utopia was supposed to show up and why things are getting worse before there was the start of a leftist revival.The left has always failed in developed countries. The Western left were a joke when the USSR existed too. I think that is the elephant in the room with leftist dogma. Marx was predicting the proletariat rising up in the developed west, but communist revolutions have only ever succeeded in backwards feudal states or colonies, Vietnam, Ethiopia, Russua, China. It has only ever failed in the west. The Germans came closest and still abject failure. The likliehood of repeating anything big as the leftist movements of Europe or America are highly unlikely and even they ultimately led to nothing.
I think if leftists want to get anywhere they should, maybe, abalyze the naterial conditions tgey live in inatead of like 19th century Russia or China.
>>2657757Yes yes we are doing so well with electoralism that there's no reason to worry about fascist violence!
Not a single organization you listed would support armed struggle or even direct actions like sabotage, in order to preserve their ability to engage with electoralism. All of the organizations you listed would immediately and totally disavow these tactics, the groups that use them, and workers that organized them, if these tactics do arise naturally from the proletariat's struggle.
These groups will disavow, and provide no material or propaganda support for those engaged in higher levels of struggle, and while those people are engaged in this higher level of struggle, the capitalist media will slander them in any way they can. This will almost certainly work to severe the struggle from the masses, effectively destroying any potential for revolution.
Western marxists will continue to wait for their promised rapture, and collect those sweet sweet checks while they do so.
All the while, the state could, at anytime, simply kill these people whom are engaging in electoralism.
>>2657762>How so? He lays down basic organizational principles on how to build and seize power. Those principles apply no matter the current popularity of communism among the workers.What does that have to do with the topic of discussion?
>>2657757Peak evidence of socialism being the bourgeois ideology as opposed to communism, the real movement.
>DSA, CPUSA, PSLTheir programmes are not even remotely communist, it's nothing but welfarism and civil rights and other democratic nonsense.
>union membershipIrrelevant, especially in the US. Plus unions aren't revolutionary by themselves. Hell, most union organizers are middle-class losers who preach to proletarians about what socialism should be.
>general socialist acceptance>out and open socialist politicians winning elections like in NYCAKA people from
all classes want welfare to save them.
What the fuck, we already lived in a communist world and nobody told me?
>>2657766I want everyone here to think about how the DSA or the PSL would react to a group of armed proletariat workers defending people from ICE. An ICE convoy rolls into the wrong neighborhood, maybe 2-3 months from now, after even more civilians have been executed by the state, after more people have been found dead or missing in these concentration camps.
So these workers eliminate the threat, I'll let you use your imagination for how that would go. But ICE is disabled and the convoy destroyed, no one is taken that day and the guerillas are able to escape.
Think about the tweets, the Instagram posts, the media correspondences. Think about how your favorite streamer would react. Think about the material wealth and position within the super structure these people would immediately want to preserve. Think about the state's repression that would come for these groups REGARDLESS OF IF THEY DISAVOW. They would disavow, disown, disengage and ultimately slander those people whom stepped up and organized that action. That is the material reality of our conditions and must be understood.
>>2657765What you are missing is the West was unexpectedly able to use colonialism and imperialism to fund workers benefits that would stave off revolution in it's own sphere. But profits continue to fall, colonialism and imperialism have fewer places to exploit and the West is now on the trajectory of being just like anywhere else. The conditions that stopped western workers from even thinking too hard about revolution is disappearing.
>>2657767You said I drew the wrong conclusions from his works but maybe you are mixing me up with someone else. So what where these wrong conclusions? What do you think I missed?
Maybe we should start getting involved in politics and embedding ourselves in activist orgs if we want any hope of a revolution in our lifetimes?
Nah nevermind doing things is adventurist I'll just continue reading.
>>2657770Oh and of course, the immediate response will be adventurism. These are adventurist tactics designed to hurt the left! We need to think about our long term electoral strategy!
It's completely a spit in the face of what Lenin spoke about in What is to Be Done, and it's a spit in the face to what Huey said.
>When the masses hear that a gestapo policeman has been executed while sipping coffee at a counter, and the revolutionary executioners fled without being traced, the masses will see the validity of this type of approach to resistance. It is not necessary to organize thirty million Black people in primary groups of two’s and three’s but it is important for the party to show the people how to go about revolution. During slavery, in which no vanguard party existed and forms of communication were severely restricted and insufficient, many slave revolts occurred. https://www.marxists.org/archive/newton/1967/07/20.htm
>The greater the spontaneous upsurge of the masses and the more widespread the movement, the more rapid, incomparably so, the demand for greater consciousness in the theoretical, political and organisational work of Social-Democracy. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ii.htm >>2657771>The conditions that stopped western workers from even thinking too hard about revolution is disappearing.Funnily enough I think we may end up in the opposite situation in the future, since the periphery and semi-periphery have plenty of room for development under a capitalist paradigm before they run out of room for domestic growth. Any competent bourgeois government in the periphery that manages to break free from imperialism (increasingly possible in a multipolar world) could win the support of its workers through developmentalist national capitalism that improves their lives and gives them a greater stake in the existing system. In much of the global south even basic industrialization would be able to achieve this for some time. By contrast the West is already largely stagnant and has exhausted far more paths of capitalist development. It has increasingly few places to go from here.
>>2657774>and the revolutionary executioners fled without being traced, >>2657770>and the guerillas are able to escape.But they haven't done it yet. Kirk shooter and Mangione almost got away.
>>2657771>You said I drew the wrong conclusions from his works but maybe you are mixing me up with someone else. So what where these wrong conclusions? What do you think I missed?That he contradicted what I said:
>>2657706>You need to have a "left" for a civil war where the left will come out on top obviously lol. A civil war would be between the actual groups tgat exist like the chuds vs. The back to normalcy centrists, so obviously, only one of those two would win.>>2657714>Read Lenin holy shit. Siri, set a reminder for "the rupture" title: time to start doing things.
I hope I can lose my virginity before the collapse happens because I doubt I'll survive the civil war.
>>2657795he probably forgot his diet coke
>>2657795Rolling for stroke. It is a mild stroke and his supporters will insist he is still fit for office, sparking a Republican civil war between MAGA and the Vance backed by the Thielists.
>>2657795It was for a minor electrical fault
>>2657393the chudjak of denmark
>>2657393The USA can already station nukes in Greenland btw. Also….
>The United States' plans to annex Greenland may only surprise at first glance and lead to the mistaken belief that these are merely extravagant remarks by President Trump. In fact, the U.S. had such plans as early as the 1860s, when the administration considered annexing Greenland and Iceland, but the idea lacked congressional support at the time. In 1910, a trilateral deal was prepared to exchange territories between the U.S., Germany, and Denmark, which would have granted Greenland to the United States, but the agreement ultimately fell through. During World War II, the U.S. established military bases in Greenland, and after the war, it offered to purchase the island from Denmark. In summary, the United States has serious plans regarding Greenland. These plans have deep historical roots, and the U.S. will continue to systematically advance its geopolitical, military-political, and economic interests in the Arctic.- Vladimir Putin
See
>>2656107 I'll say this on the subject of the left in America: you don't want to throw out an existing left thinking a better one will crop up later. Governments and their allied capitalists in Lenin's time did not have the technological ability to monitor and propagandize citizens every where they go, all day, every day. If you left the existing left be defeated you may very well end up with a harder fight in the future as people are lulled into compliance with an endless procession of pro-regime propaganda that socializes even more people to support it. The fact the Americans control most major social media platforms will make this task even easier for them. I think if you lose to the current regime now you risk slipping into a Russia situation where the populace is psychologically passified into automatic compliance, where even if everyone knows things are shit, no one ever believes it can get any better and that any proposed solutions will either make it worse or are foreign attacks.
>>2657798Damn it. Still time for my wish to come true.
>>2657795Most likely a tantrum because all the world leaders there were talking shit about him.
>>2657802>Normal person: America is serious about annexing Greenland <Putin: It all began 4.5 billion years ago when the Earth coalesced from rocky material in the Sun's protoplanetary disk… Why is he like this?
>>2657809would that qt trans girl on the right
Do people really believe Trump is going to croak before 2028?
>>2657810I get the sense that Haz wouldn't associate with trans people.
>>2657798Yep, sounds like they're covering up Trump's stroke
>>2657809You are, anon ^•⩊•^
>>2657807>Why is he like this?I really want to know if Putin is into New Chronology, because it kind of comes off as that.
>>2657815He has 100% already had several minor ones. What are the odds he unambiguously strokes out on TV?
>>2657814Haz probably believes in Roman Sexuality, he seems like the type.
>>2657821I can vibe with that. If it was gay to top twinks then why do I do it all the time? Checkmate liberals.
>>2657810how are you clocking someone from such a low res pic?
>>2657823It's not really low res.
>>2657825Not Klaus
https://www.kharon.com/brief/moscow-rebukes-isolation-with-second-congress-of-the-russophile-group<Jackson Hinkle (far left) poses with Tobias Nase (fourth from left), along with Kris Roman (third from left), Maram Susli (far right), and other international attendees of the Russophile Movement’s Second Congress. Source: TwitterOh looked up her name, tgat is Sirius Girl. Only know her from twitter shitposts. Never seen too many pictures.
>>2657829does her twitter say if she's single?
seriously considering joining ACP for a chance at this baddie
>>2657830if you do have fun dodging all the feds there
>>2657829 (You)
Lol and she is dressed up as a Russian schoolgirl. At the russophile convention. Are they trying to reinvent weebism for russia?
>>2657833i'm pretty sure ACP is probably the least fedded marxist org considering they're the only one that actually sends reps to Iran where they chant "death to america" but idk.
it's likely the CIA just sees ACP as clowny enough that they don't need to get involved subverting an already schizo organization. meanwhile DSA is probably 50% feds at this point.
>>2657825I can't see this guy's face without hearing the song
I wish someone had made a new version now that Larry Fink is in charge. Only international capitalists could look at Schwab and decide he wasn't bad enough.
>>2657836That's so fucking crazy and weird and kinda creepy and somehow I could see this larp actually working at recruiting 4channers into the ACP.
>>2657807it's actually one of the things I like about him. American leaders are never like that LOL
>>2657766>>2657770truth nuke. good posts
>>2657745>What’s the point of trying to get communism if humanity will inevitably go extinct one day? Legit question<Do you also not wipe your ass because you're going to inevitably die one day? The point of doing that is so that you dont go around smelling like ass for 80+ years before you croak. The same principle applies.new site banner just dropped
>>2657844there's a need to create a counter hegomonic culture that is primed to support these sorts of actions, not only primed to support them but primed to organize them.
I talk about it more here:
>>2657006 >>2657745Because shit sucks and I'd rather my life suck less while I still have it?
>>2657848The big problem is going to be organizing it. As I've experienced, it is impossible to do it on any normal social media that Americans frequent because you can call for violence against any other country on American platforms, but if you call for violence against America itself you're shut down immediately.
>>2657850As I mentioned yesterday, the top priority when organizing on American platforms is getting people to leave those platforms and escape the CIA propaganda net.
That requires having alternative platforms we can promote though. Do any exist that won't ban you for advocating violence against the state? I pretty much only use leftypol and 4chan so I have no fucking idea. Obviously getting normies to use IRC or I2P or TOR is a non-starter.
tl;dr:
How to remove and reform the libshit menace.
>>2657745>humanity will inevitably go extinct one dayNobody knows for sure. The Sun will die, but if we went from gathering berries and banging rocks, to nuclear reactors and microprocessors in our pockets, do interstellar space colonies in the year 5000 sound so impossible?
>>2657856You'd need to terraform Mars to escape the Sun's expansion before it dies, and then find a way to escape the Solar System to another star once the Sun actually does die. Both of those sound utterly impossible.
>>2657857>sound utterly impossibleLike nuclear fission to practically anyone 1000 years ago
>>2657850> you can call for violence against any other country on American platforms, but if you call for violence against America itself you're shut down immediately.between this and consumerism I think they've created the perfect reactionary system. still unsustainable and doomed to fall apart though.
>>2657857Terraforming mars is not at all impossible on a 5 billion year timescale. It's very doable if we ever achieve global communism in the next 4 billion years.
>>2657862Yeah but the sun will evaporate all the water in only a billion years
>>2657865can't we just terraform earth
>>2657866You can't stop the sun from evaporating all the water
>>2657856People also failed to consider just how many humans would exist.
There are trillions or quadrillions of potential future human lives we put at stake by transitioning away from abundance capitalism.
Lives that might never have a chance to exist if, for example, funding for AI and data centres ceases.
You have to realise, the magnitude of that evil is incalculable. Thankfully the people in control of Silicon Valley have come to understand this.
>>2657850Social media is a black hole and shouldn't be considered the end all be all of online work. You also gotta touch grass. It's not that difficult to get small community pantry going. It wasn't that hard to organize a pro-palestine fundraiser via a punk show. We raised nearly 600 dollars for the Red Crescent Society that way. That's a start. The people who go to those spaces, they have jobs, they work, they are already much more open to the sorts of discussions that need to happen.
Where do you think the types of people who would be willing to engage in the material organizing that's needed to create the conditions that support the guerilla might be? I doubt they are in the ivory towers of academia, or in the PMC class's cubicles. They are probably poor, service worker types, probably the types of people who live in the hood, or the barrio, or on the res, or in the trailer park. Leftists will need to engage with the actual lived poverty of the masses here in the imperial core.
These people have very limited resources though, so they are usually forgotten about or only theorized about in the abstract. I'm not saying that you can build an army of the homeless, but you need to be going to the people who are already familiar with the violence of the system that you are against.
I've always found it interesting how many leftists are absolutely chickenshit scared of engaging in any level of material praxis for fear of government repression, when there are people right now working in the illicit economy taking risks of much higher degrees for something as simple as "rent money" or "diapers"
>>2657853Palantir is everywhere.
Offline and face to face without new tech around is the only private platform. Talk the talk means walk that walk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JukTvlrh-Wk>>2657862Hahaha
>>2657866It may be too late for that.
>>2657447>DISCLAIMER: This video is part of a massive vintage song revival project. There are countless thousands of songs written in the 1800s and early 1900s that were published, but never recorded. Most of them are love songs and lullabies, and some tackle the racial tensions and inequalities of the time, often with biting satire and humor. The creators of these songs were Black and White, and both races often worked together to compose and perform them. They tease everyone…Blacks, Whites, Native Americans, the Irish, the Chinese…you name it. America was a literal melting pot, so this type of racial humor was very common, and this was reflected in the popular music of the time. These songs provided a way to reduce racial tension via humor in the tumultuous post-Civil War era. It should be noted that once this style of music went out of fashion c1920, racial tensions and strife only WORSENED. Preserving this important part of our cultural heritage isn't just a curiosity, it's a historical necessity. Many of these songs use outdated themes and language considered offensive today. But in the context of the time, it wasn't considered derogatory. That's not to excuse the content of these songs, but context is key. The vast majority of these classic songs are actually completely "family friendly" and many of them are timeless and beautiful. It's imperative that they are all preserved, the good, the bad and even the ugly. Whenever possible, I will record TWO versions of these songs, one in its original form, and one with all slurs and other racial references removed. I want to stay faithful to the original product, but I also don't want to alienate modern audiences so I'm providing a "clean" option. To reiterate, these American songs were written and enjoyed by all races. Black and White musicians pioneered the early American song styles together. It was a collaborative effort and it truly took the world by storm. The music emerging from America in the 1800s was the soundtrack of the New World, of hope and excitement for the future. These songs represent our American legacy. It should be noted that although racial themes were common, there was zero sexual degeneracy in ANY of the songs from this era. If you think these songs are distasteful, society back then would be shocked and appalled at the content of pop music and rap/hiphop today. The lyrics in these songs are tame compared to the degeneracy pushed on our children in the 21st century. So if you want to be outraged about something, direct your attention towards the dangerous and degenerate popular music YouTube pushes on your kids with billions of views, not someone trying to dutifully and passionately preserve history, for free and for the love of it. Thanks for reading and listening, much love! this dude is obviously a reactionary, but preservation and understanding history is good. I remember reading Vaudeville skits on the internet archive before they took it down (censored.)
>>2657868have you tried asking it politely not to
>>2657866>can't we just terraform earthwe've been doing that since we "invented" (discovered) agriculture
>>2657857Why do you care what might hypothetically happen in a few billion years? Dinosaurs had their few million years and went extinct. Humans will eventually go extinct. It happens. So what? Focus on having a planet that’s actually livable in a hundred years because that Mars shit is not happening before that.
>>2657837Them going to iran doesnt rule out them being feds
Honestly seeing how well China is doing compared to the US is radicalizing more people faster than anything else and it's difficult to refute unless you jump into reactionary arguments. If you have all your facts to throw out stupid arguments like "yeah but we'll lose our guns and be in a famine" to "China is only doing well because of the US" people don't really know how to fight that. China is showing how capitalism failed all on it's own and no propaganda can really beat it in the eyes of people who can see that.
>>2657886Any time I encounter anons on /v/ or /g/ complaining about computer parts being expensive I remind them that the same parts haven't had any kind of price inflation in China and this "AI component shortage" is only affecting the West. They usually either jump into conspiracy theories that China is manufacturing this shortage to hurt white people, or admit that America is a failed state but it's because of blacks and jews and not because of capitalism. Still, it's funny even the far-right are acknowledging the American Century of Humiliation.
>>2657890Something up with his eye, but I think he should keep them even when that's cleared up.
>>2657889I have talked to the reactionary bots on the reactionary bot website and they either incorrectly diagnose the problem, or correctly diagnose the problem and misdiagnose the solution
wow, why would the reactionary bots do that?
>>2657889You mean they don't know parts are expensive because they have to pay the import tax for each component and that the ram market is prioritized for gpus for A1 for data centers for maximum profits before everyone else realizes the whole endeavor was to make a porn of it only to collapse the market once the bubble bursts?
>>2657874> The music emerging from America in the 1800s was the soundtrack of the New World, of hope and excitement for the future. These songs represent our American legacy. It should be noted that although racial themes were common, there was zero sexual degeneracy in ANY of the songs from this era.This is bullshit. Vulgar songs have been around since time immemorial and the United States is no different. They were much less likely to appear in the records he looked at, but they certainly existed. Here are some from when popular music first began to be more widely recorded (though their 19th century spiritual antecedents are less well-preserved):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shave_%27Em_Dryhttps://www.theroughandtumble.com/post/2017/08/02/keep-my-skillet-good-and-greasyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_blues >>2657890They get punched in the face hard enough to give them a black eye, but not hard enough to cause any serious damage. It's a humiliation ritual thing to show members of the bourgeoisie who is really in charge (the satanic haute bourgeoisie.) Remember Macaroni is actually a king just like all other presidents of France, so this goes doubl for him.
>>2657865Billion years is more than enough time to get off planet.
>>2657869If tech nerds really believed this they would try to create a socialist government that could pump trillions of value into AI and other technologies. They wouldn't support wasting humanities precious resources on funko pop capitalism.
>>2657895>muh satanism>muh humiliation ritual>muh president is kingi love when you retards try to pass off schizophrenia as historical materialist or class analysis
>>2657891It's because The NWO picked him as the new antichrist after Joe became too sleepy. It's a known side effect of antichrist serum.
While Macron did not explain the reason for the accessory during his speech, French reports have attributed it to an ongoing medical condition.
Last week, he appeared at a military event in southern France with a red eye and at one point donned a similar pair of sunglasses.
While addressing troops, he downplayed his condition and said it was "totally benign" and "completely insignificant", adding: "Please pardon the unsightly appearance of my eye."
Macron even joked about it, calling it "l'oeil du tigre" or the "eye of the tiger", in a reference to rock band Survivor's song used in the 1982 boxing movie Rocky III.
"For those who get the reference, it's a sign of determination," he said.
French reports said that Macron appeared to have a sub-conjunctival hemorrhage, which is a broken blood vessel in his eye.
13 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
>>2657897humiliation rituals and "satanic" transgression are part of the world and are well documented in every type of secret society organization, and really any organization with a modicum of power. I'm not sure how this is such a departure from reality for you people. Macron holds the title of Co-Prince of Andorra by tradition, sharing the role with the Bishop of Urgell from Spain. He is an aristocrat, if not King.
>>2657903Bin Laden was the most famous terrorist in the world at the time while the twin towers had already been attacked previously in a terrorist attack.
"Totalitarian" governments have been a widely published fear in liberal societies since WW2. This radio host was just taking advantage.
>>2657909>a huge retreat from your previous claims>"satanic" now in scare quotes>humiliation rituals reduced to "transgression">"macron is literally a heckin king" reduced to "he is co-prince of andorra by tradition"really tiresome stuff! Thanks buddy!
>>2657894>Vulgar songs have been around since time immemorial and the United States is no differentThese people unironically imagine eroticism in any way just didn’t exist before the 1960’s when the Communists made America godless or something like that. On that topic, there’s a really fun poem from Ancient Sumeria where the goddess Inanna compares Dumuzid’s dick to an ox and begs him to plow her field.
>>2657894also pretty much every sea shanty passed down to us from the 1700s and 1800s were written down with highly censored lyrics vs. their more common versions.
>>2657903you're a schizo, kill yourself
>>2657910likewise it wasn't an improbable thing to predict, it had been a fear since the 90s with events like the OKC bombing, it wasn't an insane idea either given that islamist terrorism had been escalating rapidly since algeria, it's all easy work if you actually fucking know something rather than being a retarded schizo
>>26579109/11 is probably the thing I'm most schizo on. From Larry Silverstein's purchas of two asbestos-filled buildings long overdue for renovations that would have cost billions, leading to a mighty convenient insurance payout for him after the terrorist attacks, to the Bush family's long business relationship with the Bin Ladens going back to the 70s, to the total lack of correlation between the nationality of the alleged hijackers (3/4 Saudi, the rest Lebanese, Egyptian, and Emirati) and their leader (Saudi) vs. the countries the US actually attacked after 9/11 (Afghanistan, iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen) to influence of the Zionist lobby in all 3 branches of govt., to the
and i need zero appeal to "secret societies" or "satan" or "humiliation rituals". capitalist profit motive and nationalist geopolitics are sufficient to explain these things. False flag attacks have been a historically documented tactic for a long time too.
>>2657911it's all the same, you're boring, and you have no material explanation for why rich and powerful people in front of cameras get black eyes. France is a powerful imperialist power whose EU partner
is about to get their territorial sovereignty ganked.
<Why would a french citizen be raised to an aristocrat hmm it probably means nothing who cares - t. you >>2657894Vulgar can also mean 'of or relating to the common people' from its Latin origin. 'Folk' music has always existed, however it is expressed.
>>2657916> you have no material explanation for why rich and powerful people in front of cameras get black eyes.other anons, wtf does this anon mean by this? is he literally saying that the camera
gives the rich people black eyes because they are lizard people or something?
>>2657910>Bin Laden was the most famous terrorist in the world at the timethe Bushes and the Bin Ladens had business relationships going back to the 70s and Osama himself was involved in Operation Cyclone in Afghanistan, bringing his personal network of "Arab Mujahideen" to help overthrow the USSR-aligned government in Kabul. Thank you for your attention to this very important matter.
>>2657918I have no idea, it looks like some typical prot 4chan schizo shit so I treat it like a1 bot.
>>2657916<Why would a french citizen be raised to an aristocrat hmm it probably means nothing who cares - t. youFrance kept the role of co-prince of Andorra for continuity and stability after the republic was established, not because of royal legitimacy. When France became a republic, it chose to inherit the Count of Foix’s legal obligations rather than abolish them, to avoid destabilizing Andorra or provoking Spain.
Today, the French president is co-prince ex officio, exercising no personal sovereignty and mostly ceremonial powers. Republicanism isn’t violated because the authority comes from Andorra’s constitution and international law, not from divine or hereditary right. There's your actual material explanation. Sorry it doesn't sound like a cool Templar vs. Illuminati subplot from Assassin's Creed.
>>2657916what the fuck schizo bullshit are you on? get out of here
>>2657912<My untilled land lies fallow.As for me, Inanna, who will plow my vulva? Who will plow my high field? Who will plow my wet ground?As for me, the young woman, who will plow my vulva? Who will station the ox there? Who will plow my vulva?>Dumuzi responded with confidence: "Great Lady, the king will plow your vulva. I, Dumuzi the King, will plow your vulva."<"Make your milk sweet and thick, my bridegroom. My shepherd, I will drink your fresh milk. Wild bull, Dumuzi, make your milk sweet and thick. I will drink your fresh milk.Let the milk of the goat flow in my sheepfold. Fill my holy churn with honey cheese. Lord Dumuzi, I will drink your fresh milk.Damn. This wasn't very subtle.
>>2657925Hey! She’s a lady who knows what she wants. “Fill my holy churn with honey cheese” is pretty crazy, though.
preclude
>>2657935> why tf does accepting the capitalist profit motive perclude the option that capitalists organize themselves in secret and have their own rituals?there's no central conspiracy. they have their dumb little secret clubs but that does not trump the class interest as a whole. it's a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, not the dictatorship of pagan larp rape fantasy club #59348394
>>2657935the bourgeoisie contains cultists, ritualists, believers in dark magic
the bourgeoisie contains satanists
the bourgeoisie contains scientologists
the bourgeoisie contains mormons
the bourgeoisie contains jews
the bourgeoisie contains evangelicals
the bourgeoisie contains neo nazis
the bourgeoisie contains even communist class traitors like engels
the bourgeoisie is not
essentially or
exclusively any of those things, yet various flavors of schizo want it to be that way to validate their personal idpol persecution complex.
>>2657939The bourgeois contains (you)
>>2657745If life is short and this is it then why not make it nice.
>>2657943fuck you I'm phoneposting
>>2657943I thought it was "Angels" when I first heard of the group and honestly I think that would be a more interesting name.
Canada is already part of the USA. For a long time now. Yank-in-chief Trump is simply formalising the obvious.
Mauritius rebuffs Trump criticism, insists Chagos sovereignty ‘no longer up for debate’ , TRT World, 20th January 2026
US President Donald Trump accuses the UK of "great stupidity" for a deal to hand the Chagos Islands in the Indian Ocean to Mauritius.
Mauritius has responded to US President Donald Trump's criticism over a deal with Britain granting it sovereignty over the strategic Chagos Islands, saying the issue was no longer up for debate.
"The sovereignty of the Republic of Mauritius over the Chagos archipelago is already recognised without ambiguity under international law and should no longer be a subject for debate," said Mauritian Attorney General Gavin Glover in a statement on Tuesday.
The Chagos agreement will see Britain hand the archipelago - some 2,000 kilometres northeast of Mauritius - to its former colony and pay to lease the US-UK military base there for a century.
Trump, who endorsed the deal when it was signed in May last year, posted on social media Tuesday that the UK "giving away extremely important land is an act of GREAT STUPIDITY, and is another in a very long line of National Security reasons why Greenland has to be acquired".
Historic accord
Mauritius' attorney general said they had "taken note" of Trump's comments on the deal which "occurs in a larger geopolitical context involving the respective positions of several international partners, notably on the question of Greenland.
"This evolution comes after the treaty concluded between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Mauritius was described by the United States as a historic accord. As such, it raises certain questions."
Britain insisted the agreement, which is in the final stages of being scrutinised in parliament, would go ahead despite Trump's U-turn.
"We take note with satisfaction of the first statements by the British government confirming that the accord conforms with international law and reaffirming its intention to ratify it," Glover said.
>>2658015aww good for you lil guy
>>2658047>>2658049Silence. The Great Chagossian Reich has no use for your celebration imperialist scum. Soon chagossian tanks will land on the shores of KKKalifornia and put an end to yankees once and for all.
>>2658047>>2658049>>2658055you dickless bonobos think savage imperialism is a joke
mighty comfortable lives you are living for supposed
oppressed proles in muh belly of muh beast you are all strasserites
ATTENTION CHAGOS POSTER
We, the burgers of leftypol, have an official message for the people of Mauritia:
<Having observed the escalating tensions from afar, we find it necessary to reaffirm our historical commitment to the principles of anti-hegemony. In our most recent plenary session, our membership reached a consensus to formally recognize the legitimacy of your grievances against the prevailing global order.
<While our current domestic priorities and organizational constraints limit our capacity for direct material intervention at this stage, we offer our commitment to continuing the study of your struggle within our internal reading circles to ensure our cadre is theoretically informed!
<We will ensure that the struggle of [Nation Name] is mentioned in our upcoming newsletter and included in our annual report on global contradictions!
We, the burgers of leftypol, extend their unwavering revolutionary solidarity to the heroic peoples of Mauritia!! 💪
Good luck out there!
>>2658061You're not gonna laugh once socialism on one chagos island by 2150 really kicks off yank
>>2658060we will win
>>2658061>how will it change your life, hut bla bla blatypical of a self-abosrbed labour aristocrat. What's in it for me, me, me! I, me, myself! Greedy yank!
Anti-imperialism is not conditional to anything. Imperialism must be opposed full stop. And you dare call yourself a communist!
>>2658067The Republic and all its islands are already warm-water ports for Chinese, Russian and Indian comrades. They are welcome anytime.
>>2658071>The Republic and all its islands are already warm-water ports for Chinese, Russian and Indian comrades. They are welcome anytime.Except the rest of the Chagos islands have no infrastructure and we are talking about a base like how the Djboutians leased the Chinese a base right across from the American one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_Support_Base_in_DjiboutiAnyways the situation is resolved. You got the islands back and now the UK rents Diego Garcia from your country. The time to complain was before Mauritus gave a 99 year lease to Britain.
>>2658067I love how there wouldn't be enough relevant news to have a chagos general so he has to come here to post
>>2658080He's a Mauritian. They only got Chagos back last year. But yeah, the Africa general is also dead most of the time. I don't know if i've ever seen him post there.
>>2658076>the time to complainstfu stoopid yank
the anti-americanism
will continue until the american imperialism is destroyed. Chagos is but a pebble in the mountain.
>>2658080 i'm in usapol because it is the US rapist army which is occupying the island you moron
>>2658083is any African state bullying Mauritius? No. So there is nothing for me to say there.
>>2658085>i'm in usapol because it is the US rapist army which is occupying the island you moron>occupying*renters in good standing. Well actually the UK is renting and letting the US crash there when we need.
>>2658015>>2658058It's okay Anon, Mauritius was a US state in all but name anyway :)
>>2657356>>2657367>>2657371I've been thinking to offer hosting services to orgs for security's sake. I have machines I can use, and experience setting up secure services.
>>2658096Yeah I remember the Bush years too
>>2658097you absolutely should do that if you have the skills and the spare time/resources. It would be so incredibly based and I would personally suck you off
>>2658090they occupied it for 60 years. not rent.
Now we
have to accept the renting situation because there is no way that the US army will leave. Read on the importance of this base for US operations in the middle east. They will not just abandon it if we ask them to leave.
>>2658098Hunter was nixon years, and the most evergreen poster of his time.
>>2658097What country do you live in? Hosting in the US is not a good idea. That's why 8ch publicly cooperated with every US government supoena. Would be better to host in Russia or somewhere.
>>2658102Oh I know I'm just saying this whole thing of "Americans are the most hated people on the planet now" isn't anything new
>>2658095Canada and Chagos will form the anti-Yankee United Front and destroy the Great Satan.
>>2658107Fair. Yeah I mean I live here and I've pretty much always hated this fucking place since day one. At least half of people who grow up poor (which is most people) hate this country and the government. We all know the government doesn't represent us and does nothing with our consent. We want a civil war. We dream about it. It would give us Dionysian release. It is destiny.
>>2658101Your beloved bongs are the lesee, take it up with them. It's their choice to let us live there and in your head rent free.
>>2658100do u have tech skills?
>>2658105there are ways to stay secure and off the radar, I think i've got it worked out. I've got experience with security and evasion
>>2658111I have no tech skills, sadly. I should but I've been disabled most my life so forced into NEET hell.
>>2658105though I am aware of the NSA terminals and network taps. it's a losing battle, but one we hvae to fight; it's not about outrunning the bear so much as it is not being slowest
>>2658114what do you think about i2p and freenet?
>>2658114The issue is they can come physically snatch your servers if you are physically in the US unless you comply with whatever court order.
>>2658115fiiine. In the coming revolution, considering I wouldn't make a good soldier (physical issues), but if I have enough adderall, I'm pretty good at math and I know I could learn computers with a good enough reason/push… would that be useful?
>>2658116I have never looked into them. I am familiar with tor and all manner of vpns, but am aware of their vulnerabilities. I'll check em out. The only caveat is that the software needs to be easy enough to use for rank and file org members.
>>2658118incredibly. are you in the leftypol matrix chat?
>>2658117yes. I am going back and forth on where to host, perhaps compartmentalizing in terms of risk is the best bet.
>>2658122He's fumbling over his words he's such a shit speaker nowadays
>>2658121No, I used to but I should join it soon.
>>2658104He was appointed Commander of 7th Armoured Brigade, which was deployed to Kosovo,[11] and was made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE)
>in Iraq in July 2006.Seems like Euros are facing some karma tbh
>>2657884I'm pretty sure that haz got arrested and interrogated by the CIA when he got back from a china trip. Not really a fed, just a schizo.
>>2658122"We're building a ton of oil gas and coal power plants for AI"
THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT!!!!
>>2658123Someone could easily hop on stage and punch him to death. He's right there. Just do it
>>2658123Shoulda flown out a day early. That's pretty crazy to do a 8 hpur flight and go straight to deliver a high pressure speech. Obviously the air is a little more tense than usual even by Trump standards.
Yeah he doesn't got his fire today, this is nothing like his General Assembly performance. He sounds like he's been crying.
>>2658130based based based based
>>2658131>>2658132Dude imagine being a world leader and you've just subjected yourself to a trump campaign speech
Which world leader has TikTok open on their phone rn?
>>2658110>legalist retardationthe american army is the problem. If you think the bong vassal will manage to convince the yank savage to leave his base you are a retard
>>2658126>muh karmaweak shit for weaker people
Trump:
>I am derived from Europe. SCOTtland and Germany. 100%
>>2658139vgh, trve anglo-germano stock
Trump:
>No nation or group of nations is in any position to secure Greenland other than the united states
He's ABSOLUTELY going to do it bros lmfao this is so awesome
>>2658122>Every NATO ally has an obligation to be able to defend its own territoryNo they don't??? That's the whole point of an alliance??? How can somebody be this retarded?
He's basically flopping his cock on the podium rn
>>2658143The revolutionary defeatist praxis of JDPON Don remains eternal
>>2658146He's gotta be shortening the lifespan of the American empire by like 50 years.
"People are gonna be prosecuted for the 2020 election" Will Biden be arrested before 2028?
>>2658138Maybe karma isn't the wright word. I'm just appreciating how Euros thought if they helped the American Monster eat other people they would be fine. But now the Monster is turning around, pawing at them, licking it's lips and suddenly they cry about how evil it is.
>decades have became conventional wisdom in washington and European capitals that the only way to grow a modern western economy is through increasing government spending
>proceeds to increase government debt by trillions
>duplicate military (government) spending 100%
yup, all edge, no point.
>without us you'd all be speaking German
Lol he said the meme.
now you are all speaking English instead ;)
Revolution status?
>>2658147buddy the empire is over in like 10 years tops. In 4 years we'll be actively balkanizing.
MAGA Communism was real in the end, this mofo is destroying american hegemony so fucking fast its actually unreal. I can't believe its been only a year.
"we're building the golden dome in greenland"
>>2657288This website is full of retards and bad faith actors
Trump: (this is not a joke I swear this is a direct quote)
>They called me "daddy"
my man, is he talking like a he's on a presidential campaign in Davos? wtf…. are those people there going to vote for king of the world, trump or what?
"WE ARE BUILDING MORE WAR FACTORIES THIS VERY MINUTE. WE JUST WANT PEACE. WE JUST WANT GREENLAND."
>>2658155im so glad kamala lost
Did Trump just cuck out on Greenland?
>China makes all of the windmills
>yet I haven't been able to find any of the windmill famrs in Chynah
>do you ever think of that!
positive for rarted.
Swedish pension fund Alecta dumps up to $8.8 billion in US government bonds
This comes after Danish pension fund AkademikerPension's decision in January 20th 2026 to exit U.S. Treasuries due to heightened credit risks
Source:
https://www.di.se/nyheter/di-avslojar-alecta-har-dumpat-amerikanska-statspapper/>>2658161What are you talking about? Gambling is not the proletarian's problem.
>>2658196>>2658198that's good.
I wonder if other countries can cascade into panic, and run to sell as much they can before they see the bonds devaluing more of what they can get with its interests. the US has brakes to avoid overselling, of course, they will undoubtedly run a corralito.
>>2657919Bin Laden—one of greatest leftists of all time— was freedom fighter who destroy comprador social fascist and amerikan fascist. Bin Laden did more for proletariat than any amerikan.
>>2657770The revisionist Cpusa and the zionist psl are paper membership. The Communist Party has swamp hardened MMA master cadres. The Communist Party—out of all parties—kick the shit out of ICE
>Let us look at the question from yet another angle. The war cannot but evoke among the masses the most turbulent sentiments, which upset the usual sluggish state of mass mentality. Revolutionary tactics are impossible if they are not adjusted to these new turbulent sentiments.
>What are the main currents of these turbulent sentiments? They are: (1) Horror and despair. Hence, a growth of religious feeling. Again the churches are crowded, the reactionaries joyfully declare. “Wherever there is suffering there is religion," says the arch-reactionary Barr s. He is right, too. (2) Hatred of the “enemy”, a sentiment that is carefully fostered by the bourgeoisie (not so much by the priests), arid is of economic and political value only to the bourgeoisie. (3) Hatred of one’s own government and one’s own bourgeoisie—the sentiment of all class-conscious workers who understand, on the one hand, that war is a “continuation of the politics” of imperialism, which they counter by a “continuation” of their hatred of their class enemy, and, on the other hand, that “a war against war” is a banal phrase unless it means a revolution against their own government. Hatred of one’s own government and one’s own bourgeoisie cannot be aroused unless their defeat is desired; one cannot be a sincere opponent of a civil (i.e., class) truce without arousing hatred of one’s own government and bourgeoisie! https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1915/jul/26.htm >>2657739Saying first world and imperialist arent the same to try and combat the fact that labor aristocrats exist only in imperialist country is in fact semantic.
>>2658219Wrong. Turkey is imperialist yet not first world. Try reading Mao
>>2658216Good quote, if you actually adopt this position you might shed your infantile world view
>>2658216>the sentiment of all class-conscious workers who understand, on the one hand, that war is a “continuation of the politics” of imperialism,For context he puts the continuation of politics in quotes because he is quoting Clausewitz's "On War," A dialectical German text from the Napoleonic era, which he personally claimed was every bit as essential to his victory in the civil war as his reading of Marx.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1946/1946-h/1946-h.htm SHE RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAAAAY
:(
>>2658101> They will not just abandon it if we ask them to leave.Write your requests upon rounds of ammunition and petition the nearest US base by means of airmail
>>2658224Clausewitz was required reading for the Red Army, and is listed in the Weeks as Decades Reading List in the OP (which needs to be updated with new/better materials, tbh)
At the very least I think most revolutionaries would benefit from skimming On War
>>2658230>ammunition we only got coconuts and papayas
CONGRESS IS IN SESSION RN TALKING ABOUT SOMALI FRAUD BULLSHIT COME WATCH WITH US
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/happenings>>2658233They hate Ilhan Omar and the Minnesota Somalia diaspora so much because they are one of the strongest hotbeds of both anti-imperialist and anti-zionist sentiment in the US, in addition to being black, muslim, and arab at the same time, not to mention that they are
not a typical "gusano" diaspora fleelng "muh communism" like the miami cubans tend to be, but are an actual group of people who realized that the US is the only place you can flee US bombs and be (relatively) "safe" …
cough 1985 MOVE bombing cough >Trump: "The Golden Dome is going to be defending Canada. Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way. They should be grateful but they're not. I watched your prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful. But they should be grateful to us. Canada. Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that, Mark, next time you make your statements.
Canada next to have his president snatched?
>>2658248>I hate youtube like you have no ideathe enshittification will continue until everyone needs a Glowgle account to watch anything and nobody is able to use ublock origin or yt-dlp anymore.
>>2658273>Wrong. Lenin said turkey is an oppressed colony, not imperialist>links 1920 documentin the year 1920+106 Turkey is a member of NATO
>>2658283since when does trump use slop machines for his xeets
>>2658287he doesnt control his tweets.
>>2658287he has been just another commodity brought to you by Musk, Thiel, and Karp for a while now.
>>2658273Wrong. Turkey is no longer the 'sick man of europe' about to be carved up, they are now strong NATO imperialist collaborator
>>2658287since AI can create very credible AI texts that imitates goo-goo gaah-gaah baby trumpedo rants?
the EU freezing U.S. trade deal indefinitely is real, though.
>>2658283>America doesn't talkIt's barely verbal, let alone literate.
>>2658273>Lenin said-!Over a CENTURY ago. Why in the hell would you think the context is still the same? Just because Lenin said so? This is a cultish mindset. Also, the Ottomans were an empire at the time anyway so he was objectively WRONG, the fact they were extremely weak. And Turkey in 1920 was a post-imperial-collapse rump state, why the hell should it be given the same level of sympathy as, say, all its former colonial possessions? This is so reductionist.
>>2658241Andrew Callaghan of Channel 5 / All Gas No Brakes interviewed Nick Shirley, the youtuber who made the allegations that kicked off all the shit in Minnesota. We're going to play it.
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/Happenings >>2658289
1917 had close to zero roads and infrastructure and was horse and buggy dependent. Contemporary America is infinitely more mobile. You are delulu.
>>2658311
You don't need millions od peasants when you have industrialized farming. Delulu.
>>2658301the FBA right deviation is alive and well
>>2658305It's Wrong Schizo
his whole thing is saying "Wrong." followed by the stupidest shit you ever heard, with some random appeal to authority. just ignore him. he is a known troll.
>>2658324>reviving Physiocratic economic doctrine to own the proles to Uphold Quesnayist-Pol-Potist thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysiocracyAwww are the Americans larping about their imminent revolution? It’s really cute when you do that. Well it would be cute if you weren’t actively complicit in the rape and exploitation of the imperial periphery and have no material incentive for communism, instead it’s just obnoxious
>>2658333
>muh scabs
we know what the reserve army of labor is, and we know that imperialism carves up the world. that alone is sufficient to demonstrate that the immigrants are the scapegoats in this situation and porky is to blame.
>>2658329
Internet making everyone unproductively just post through their problems and the fall of the soviet union might have killed all revolutionary spirit.
>>2658329>>2658333>>2658334three genres of demoralization and right deviation in a rapid machine gun burst. the feds are awake and their LLMs are active
14:45 GMT
“And until the last few days, when I told them about Iceland, they loved me,” Trump says on NATO, seemingly confusing Iceland with Greenland.
“They called me Daddy, right, last time? Very smart man said, he's our daddy.”
21 January 2026
15:22 GMT
Trump brings up domestic issues throughout his speech, boasting about his economic and immigration policies. Now he’s turning to a favorite topic of his – the multibillion-dollar Somali fraud ring in Minnesota.
“Somalian bandits, can you believe that…they turned out to be higher autism score than we thought? I always say these are low autism score people,” he declares.
“They're good pirates, but we shoot them out of the water just like we shoot the drug boats out.”
Trump says he watched French President Emmanuel Macron’s speech “with those beautiful sunglasses… what the hell happened?”
>>2658233US congress or Minnesota congress?
also, many people have sworn to tell the truth, and they have lied with no legal repercussions (CIA, DNI, directors under obomba, for example). so I guess he can say whatever.
>>2658333
Where is yours? There has been evidence you can unionize immigrant labor as far back as when you had Irish immigrants coming in and joining the Knights of Labor. If U.S. labor can’t build class consciousness and solidarity enough to unionize them, that’s their failure.
>>2658339The truth hurts doesn’t it yank? China is rising, America is sinking into irrelevance while putting its vassals in their place, and your tears are delicious
>>2658324
Industrialized farmers can't feed themselves?
https://abc7.com/post/gavin-newsom-slams-world-leaders-davos-rolling-trump-stop-being-complicit/18440841/>Newsom slams world leaders for 'rolling over' to Trump: 'Stop being complicit'.>"I can't take this complicity. People rolling over. I should've brought a bunch of knee pads for all the world leaders," Newsom said. "I mean handing out crowns. I mean this is pathetic. Nobel prizes that are being given away."Aw. He's trying.
>>2658335>Immigrants are the scapegoat but also im gonna keep ignoring the scab problem and just call people protesting it retarded or FBIYeah OK. When the IWA was formed, Marx made it clear that immigration was a problem and wanted the organization to co-ordinate workers in different countries to stop immigration so that the capitalist class would stop using it as a weapon to divide the workers.
That's what actually doing something meant. Meanwhile in 2026 if you point this out to leftists you either get called a racist or you get told to shut up with a "yeah we know about it", except you know about it and do nothing about it.
>>2658350You seriously think we aren’t laughing our asses off at our country?
Good, I’m glad. Fuck this place.
>>2658353
finally got me to bite, that's utterly retarded. not even the chinese have fully automated dark factories yet. this won't be a reasonable possibility for another half century at the very least.
>>2658329
>the proletariat has never existed in the U
Ding ding ding
>>2658358I’m laughing MY ass off at the fact you retards have sincerely deluded yourselves into thinking you’re communists or that America is capable of having le revolution
>>2658363
the "mechanisms of state" still require human labor as the universally basic input. they cannot persist without people until further technical advancements are made in automation. i am begging you to at least adhere to basic materialism if i'm going to take your bait half-ass seriously.
>>2658357>the scab problemthe "scab" problem is the porky problem you utter imbecile. porky gives your job to an immigrant, riles you up with zionist slop news, gets you cheering for ICE filled to the brim with gusanos, and then defund your already dogshit education system so they can pay more ICE agents to "fix" the problem they created in the first place
(in reality they won't actually deport everyone, just use the threat of deportation to make the immigrants work for even lower wages)
and don't even get me started on CBP, all "anti-immigrant" policy in the USA does not even come close to touching what you describe as "the scab problem"
>>2658365
not the anon, i distance myself from this retard who answered for me in order to shit on marx
how about fining companies that hire undocumented immigrants rather than punishing undocumented immigrants themselves?
>>2658333
There's some truth to this.
As soon as an illegal becomes legal they are reactionaries
>>2658369your job is to say this 100 times per thread
>>2658350>The truth hurts doesn’t it yank? China is rising, America is sinking into irrelevanceGood! It's funny that you think this hurts my feelings.
>>2658383He and chagos are so fucking out of touch it's insane, they think this place is still in the 1980s
>>2658392
No, my fine friend, YOU fell for the empire's kayfabe.
>>2658386when I told chagos this:
<i might have been born in america, lived in america my whole life, and will die in america, but I do not identify as american so nothing chagosposter says can hurt my feelings, because they do not apply to me. i was assigned american at birth but i am not american, it trvly is that shrimple.he said "understandable" and that's all I need to say to him.
as for these clowns thinking the empire collapsing bothers me, I yearn for total dedollarization and balkanization.
>no u
Bitch shut the fuck lmao
>>2658384
a large language model can't mine precious metals or refine silicone from sand in a blast furnace. it can't transport materials to central location, nor can it assemble them there and transport it to storage or point of consumption. if you built a sophisticated automated factory run by an llm to do any of these things, the longest we've been able to run such a factory without human maintenance labor is about a month. all of these things still require people, and even if llm's advance exponentially over the next decades they won't be able to solve any of these problems without corresponding exponential advancements in robotics and cybernetics in manufacturing and logistics.
>>2658393But i don't want a productive hobby, i want to shitpost
>>2658397
> Americans get to live at the expense of the rest of the world
not for much longer
>>2658390
Not like them.
Every single Hispanic I know hates illegals and is boot licking trympet
When I canvas I skip the Hispanic neighborhoods because they aren't into it
>>2658399don't bother trying to educate these fools about tech. they are the monkeys in 2001 touching the monolith
>>2658403>Every single Hispanic I know hates illegals and is boot licking trympetit's called pulling the ladder up. talk to the guys picking the strawberries, not the guys who own the taco trucks
>>2658397
>no such thing as false consciousness
Is only uttered by shut-ins who don't talk to people.
I have to deal with people for one of my two jobs, yes it is absolutely real
>>2658403To go further people that want to come to America the legal way have already taken the US exceptional liberalism pill and you won't get it out of them.
The most revolutionary class in the states are black people
>>2658415
>communism would be a downgrade because job benefits
You… understand that any number of non-market allocation methods could easily make up for this
>>2658405This ise talking to coworkers at warehouses, machine shops etc
>>2658412
america has lost its mojo, its chutzpah, its grit, its drive. and even its initial settler-colonialism was paved by conquistadors. If it weren't for columbus and smallpox, anglo colonists would have had to fight harder for this land. if it weren't for the massive tech asymmetry, they wouldn't have conquered it from sea to shining sea. That treachery cannot be replicated because the USA clown show, and only has dwindling advantages in its gas tank which hasn't been filled since it lucked out in 1945 by getting to feast on the corpse of Europe after selling weapons to both sides in WW2.
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>>2658406>>2658415
Also what fucking factory are you working in where they barely have you do anything?
>>2658421
lack of communism means the death of the world so i guess we choose the world. sorry bucko!!!
>>2658421
…okay, you have to be a fed.
>>2658422Purple state in the north east
>>2658427new to this thread? it's a daily demoralization fest.
>>2658417
More so than the crackers, asains, and hispanics
>>2658415
Where the fuck can you afford to live on 20 a day?
>>2658431
>This job would not exist under communism and if it did we wouldn’t have party members on shift at all times to fuck with us.
What makes you say this? Labour discipline in communist countries was typically less severe than in capitalist ones.
>>2658417
Still the most revolutionary group in the US
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