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Imagine if the generals said they wouldn't do war crimes for Israel. I doubt it but that'd be crazy. A first in American history?
>>2765372if I recall, it has something to do about lpol's DEV adding some trashy code (unwillingly or not) from another board that banned Telegram channels because of someone being butthurt about the Russian-Ukrainian war where that board doesn't consider telegram channels as reliable source (zelensky has its own official account there, as well most of ukrainian media)
post?
We're getting a Jewish Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army
>>2765189The Iraqi nationalist insurgency killed more troops in its first 3 years (before Al-Qaeda and Iran started a sectarian war) than the entire occupation of Afghanistan
Meanwhile Iran killed like 8 troops so far. You tripping blud
>>2765375It may be a first. Ben Franklin did say you have a Republic, if you can keep it. They thought they had enough safeguards in place so they could never have imagined something like what's happening now, a junta that disregards every safeguard
>>2765385>believing official numbers released by the Trump administrationI shaggy scooby doo
>>2765391the iraq war numbers are fairly legit imo, and there weren't insiders coming out saying they were hiding the numbers
it's a few weeks into this war and there's already insiders leaking that they're hiding the numbers
>>2765397>trust me broOkay 👍
>>2765385>Meanwhile Iran killed like 8 troops so farfrom the last thread.
watch out from 'strangely disappeared general, lieutenant, captain,', a bus ran-off the cliff in Germany that killed 20 soldiers?
This is a quick run-down in 2020: initially: no deaths, no cassualties, Jan 16, 2nd picrel:
>11 InjuredThen Feb 10, 2020
>More than 100 soldiers with brain injuriesso, you are very gullible to believe that they have 8 casualties only.
>>2765408>>More than 100 soldiers with brain injuriesSoleimani's meme revenge operation also caused 100 brain injuries. Like 1 contractor died from that.
There is no comparison between the nationalist Iraqi insurgency and Iran so far.
Not that it matters very much compared to real news about the war, but since Mr. Market has been in Iran War mode for weeks, here's all you never wanted to know about the US stock market this week (trading week ends early for Good Friday):
>Market started the week badly, ending down on Monday
>On Tuesday, a WSJ article mentioned that Trump was supposedly open to getting out and letting Iran control the Strait of Hormuz, leaving Europe (or whoever) to resolve the problems there, which boosted the markets.
<Some technical action related to a set of derivatives bought/written by one of JPMorgan's largest funds resulted in even more volatile price action upwards.
>A Bloomberg article where Iran's president repeated some of their demands for a ceasefire was misread by trading algorithms as new information, and the S&P 500 ended the day up around 3%, undoing slightly less than half the losses over the year-to-date in one day.
>On Wednesday, the market went up yet again, over 1% on the S&P 500, on increased hopes of some sort of near-term ceasefire deal, despite all evidence to the contrary
>Wednesday night into Thursday, the stock market reacted badly to the spew of garbage Trump assembled from his Truth Social posts (weren't they reading these before?)
>On Thursday, the S&P 500 starts down ~-1.5, but it rose from the dead for no obvious reason to end the trading session a bit above 0, a positive day despite expectations of a dump before the 3-day weekend.
>WTI/oil up more than 10% in a day, ending around 52-week high
In short, Mr. Market is still carrying water for the dotard. Some of the price action on Thursday was related to weekly options (derivatives) expiring, though. Market maker trading algorithms tend to drive some stock prices up or down toward max pain (the price range where the most derivatives traders get screwed) to maximize gains from premiums on the derivatives they sold.
The most bizarre price action was the relation between stock indices and oil on Thursday. They were trading inversely to one another for weeks, but there was almost no relation between their price movement on Thursday.
>>2765403>>2765391I don't have any opinion about Iraq war casualty numbers, but you'd have to be a driveling idiot to believe that the number of US casualties in the last month is 8
>>2765414My reply is meant as a respond to the retard downplaying the effectiveness of the Iraqi insurgency while claiming Iran will kill "hundreds of thousands" based on zero evidence
>>2765419did you mean bullshite?
>>2765420>>2765421>Taking AMERIKKKA at face value on this 6 year old attack whose real casualties definitely have yet to come to light????? Ok ZOGBOT>The Iraq war? Yeah vibes tells me president bush reported the real numbers doeI <3 arbitrary unfalsifiable claims
20:43 GMT
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has asked Army Chief of Staff General Randy George to resign and take immediate retirement, CBS has reported, citing source familiar with the matter. One of the sources named differences in “vision for the army” between US President Donald Trump, Hegseth, and George as the reason for the move.
21:54 GMT
Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell said that General Randy George has stepped down from his position as Army Chief of Staff. “The Department of War is grateful for General George’s decades of service to our nation,” Parnell wrote on X.
Earlier, CBS News reported that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had asked George to resign and intends to replace him with someone he considers better aligned with his and President Donald Trump’s policy agenda.
>>2765426Oh, bush. I thought they were dead?
>>2765427Seems like purging the brass would get a lot of kids killed if they went ground invasion.
>German pharma giant Bayer has warned that European drugmakers must raise prices on new medicines in Europe to maintain profits amid US pressure to lower drug costs for Americans.
EU = Eunuchs United
>>2765427>replace all your military leadership with sycophants in the middle of a warI'm sure it'll work out great.
>>2765440the grim reaper decal got burned off LOL
>>2765375>>2765381I think it depends on the general. IIRC Michael Flynn was basically considered an insane wannabe einsatzgruppen by other figures in the Pentagon. Then you get kind of liberal coded figures like Mark Milley that I think ended their careers somewhat radicalized by how the Trump admin acted because they took their oaths to the constitution seriously.
Though I think the most rational argument is kind of in the center. Hegseth is giving interviews where he acts like this is a holy war and says “the only people who should be worried are Iranians who think they’re gonna live.” And seems to be creating self inflicted crises because of some idiotic idea that there’s a war god he can appease by being anti woke. Like imagine trying to plan for counter insurgencies and your dumbass President and Sec of War are out there saying shit like “we’ll kill every Iranian that doesn’t show us total submission” or that he can’t wait to turn their mosques into Protestant mega churches. Like I wouldn’t be shocked if he just out and out says “this is a war to destroy Islam.”
Like I think they can recognize a fundamental incompetence in Hegseth and Trump’s approach that’s kind of tinged like that meme of “If Hitler just didn’t treat the Slavs as subhuman, he would have had an army ready to fight Stalin.”
>>2765393thanks anon, when it starts getting too long for one post just attach a txt file like the burger archives anon does
>>2765442Cool music, though.
>500 BC
<inter-slaverist war
>2026 AC
<inter-epsteinist war
Who writes this shit?
>>2765393This will be in history books
The only reason I know of this movie was like 5 years ago when Arab drill music was popular they sampled the soundtrack a lot.
>>2765442bro I remember watching 300 in history class lmfao
>>2765378are you fucking serious right now. god damn how could these fuckups running this shithole get any worse
>>2765381
Even in the movie they portray the Spartans as bad guys really. I guess to be fair to Frank Miller, I think in the end, I guess it's supposed to be righteous fate that they die the way they do because Leonidas is mean to the cripple guy for no reason and it's that guy who betrays them to Xerxes. They just straight up kill children too, cripple man was just one who escaped the eugenics program. Frank Miller is pretty fascist coded but then a lot of his stuff is pretty libby at the same time(his great love for warrior prostitutes in Sin City.) 300 is super fascist coded tho, especially if you identify with the Spartans.
>>2765454That's fucking crazy dog. Lmao. What kind of ghetto school did you go to? They showed us movies too but usually only like of novels we were reading in English.
>>2765454At my high school they made us watch Gangs of New York Junior year which I had already seen when it came out when I was 12. At least that was
slightly more historical than 300 LMFAO, however I heard ROTC watched 300.
>>2765463even non ghetto schools in burger land were basically just daycares back in the 00s
>>2765470>even non ghetto schools in burger land were basically just daycares back in the 00sI went to a pretty ghetto school back in the 00s and I don't think I remember watching any movies in history. I did have one history teacher that literally never taught a single day the whole school year. Every day would just be study hall. He'd be like
>ok today, I want you to read chapter 22 and then he would just sit at his desk the whole time doing whatever he did. >>2765474>I went to a pretty ghetto school back in the 00s and I don't think I remember watching any movies in history. I did have one history teacher that literally never taught a single day the whole school year. Every day would just be study hall. He'd be like >>ok today, I want you to read chapter 22 and then he would just sit at his desk the whole time doing whatever he did.yeah my middle school was more like that. just hands-off teachers who didn't each. I even had one class where he made us copy the glossary by hand as busy work
>>2765413Oh no! Mr. Market!
>>2765487didn't they fire 30k employees this week? despite their incredible huge profits? a company that cultivates sociopaths?
good.
>>2765480>campismThank you, US State Dept.
>>2765427Can they just fucking military coup the government already. Getting really tired of this shit
>>2765494You're a burgerstani liberal
There is no bigger insult in the known multiverse
>>2765495Comrade Trump is into Stalinst thought
>>2765499I know I'm not racist because americans are equally nonhuman to me regardless of race
>>2765495>>2765498it really is time for a mutiny now.
>>2765500Sure, but it means nothing coming from wish-upon-a-star pseudo-ultra scum like (you). Calling (you) a glowie is actually a compliment, because it means (you)'re getting paid to go online, and make yourself look like the biggest dumbfuck to crawl from Reddit.
How much do you seethe that American empire is in visible decline? So far (you) know better than to show up here to bitch about how enemies if the West are "bad, too", because (you) know what will happen from the Palestine thread. But there are limits, to that, no? The squealing gets louder the more America eats shit. Something is moving inside of (you). Something primal wants to get out. Your hollow shell is almost bursting at the seems. The prospect of PetroYuan terrifies (you) like nothing else.
>>2765494Tankanon never misses, tbh
>>2765499>bourgs n' proles r brothazkys
>>2765508Mind broken by big leftcom cock
>>2765519Leftcom prostate is ruined by sitting in armchair all the time
Seeing how far this went, do western leftists still think October 7 was strategic genius or is the inside job narrative gaining more steam? Israel, like any bourgeois state, doesn't give a fuck about its working civilians, and it itself gave rise to Hamas in the past.
Not that anyone respects your opinion, but I'm morbidly curious as a communist.
>>2765527US oil contractors fled Iraq and the gulf? HUGE if true (it isn't)
>Families celebrating Nature Day caught in US-Israeli bridge strike in Iran, 8 deadhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sizdah_Be-darWhy are Iranians such hippies?
>>2765561
trump screwed over my stock market investments.
(still holding tho since I have patience)
Lots of refuelers today.
Currently three C-17s and seven KC-135s heading to MENA, and earlier today there were eight C-17s and two KC-135s.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae0808,ae07dc,ae1467,ae2fac,ae0806,ae1237,ae1466,ae07e4,ae05a4,ae035e,ae0674,ae0667,ae0596,ae0813,ae10ba,ae0266,ae0817,ae014f,ae0808,ae07dc,ae1467,ae2fac,ae0806,ae1237,ae1466,ae07e4,ae05a4,ae0385>>2765563No one cares about proles massacred by imperialists, report back a cuckslamist hero dies in some hole.
>>2765461>>2765472I think what's kind of interesting about 300 is how the sequel, which was made years later and I'm pretty sure not based on the Miller comics, sort of deconstructs the first film.
Not entirely, mind you, but it both humanizes the Persian messenger that Gerard Butler kicks down a pit in the beginning of the movie and since the protagonists of this movie are
The Athenians it arguably makes the Greeks more sympathetic by having them fighting for something more than just the nebulous "freedom" of an insane warrior culture like Sparta. Like IIRC in the third act of the movie there's a scene that's a direct parallel to the first act of 300, where the Athenian general says "Yeah we're all tradesmen, merchants, boys" in contrast to the Spartans in the first film mocking the other Greeks for not being professional soldiers.
>>2765569
I should have done this. welp
>>2765573
true, must INVEST
>>2765526>strategic geniusmy friends in iran say that every missile launched from iran belongs to sinwar
>>2765577
Good thing for the Iranians, too. They can sort of relax during most of the week and only fully lock in after markets close.
>>2765584see
>>2760145
>my friends in IranIRGC twitter psyobots aren't your 'friends'
>>2765587Unfortunately a good chunk of that was bombed.
>>2765526>Seeing how far this went, do western leftists still think October 7 was strategic genius or is the inside job narrative gaining more steam?>>2765584>my friends in iran say that every missile launched from iran belongs to sinwarDid Sinwar really intend to bring down Hezbollah and Assad? Idk, but he didn't tell them about it either. Either way, Iran probably has to claim him and say the missiles they're launching now was part of his plan all along. It's go time.
>>2765595>no argument It's a good thing the world doesn't run on ideas because otherwise I singlehandedly would've achieved communism with how I own you libs
>>2765597no i mean they are my friends(IRGC twitter psyobots) and also not on twitter too
>>2765596well hamas did fight against assad, but hez is still going, according to recent reports in coordination for combined arms strikes with iran against israel
I hope Pam Bondi gains back the weight she lost from Ozempic since working in the White House
>>2765602picrel
(god forgive me for I am just a man)
>>2765601So what? Hezb fought with the US against Iraq
Welcome to third worldist lesser evilism vibes thought
>>2765605She is doing the coomer face
>>2765606idk i hardly think you can blame hamas for assads incompetency
>>2765625better than an 80-year-old desert larp, don't you think, shlomo?
>>2765632G*d you /pol/ chuddies are retarded xd
So did anything happen yet?
Trump is trying to accelerate America's failure by using his delusion to purge his generals, therefore making himself look like an idiot. And I'm loving the chaos :-)
>>2765651
Not my empty rural house painting the third temple has fallen 😢
You strike me as the kind of goy to kill themselves upon finding out Israel outlived the October war, an hour of which dwarfs Iran's light shows for the past 3 years.
>>2765657
This vid is mid because it's edited like shit
>>2765661
Meds. Now.
>>2765661
>the IDF are conscript army made up of many to-be proles
No such thing as an Israeli "prol". They receive stolen Palestinian capital for being jewish
Unconfirmed reports a Blackhawk was shot down over Southern Iran looking for the pilots of the downed F-15E
>>2765671P[?]RC getting indirectly mogged rn lowkey fr…
>>2765693Reading any ICP article is like this
>>2765679>unconfirmedMore wishful thinking
>>2765693Comrade stein is 10x more revolutionary than multipolasistas
>>2765661
Dawg the IDF is one of the biggest incubators of Silicon Valley surveillance technology companies what on earth are you talking about? Israel abandoned any pretense of socialism long ago, their organizing ideal now is become le "Tech Sparta" obsessed with US style tech mania and the deranged policy towards helots/Arabs with a glaring difference that Israelis think Jews dying in invasions they start is antisemitic and a war crime
>>2765706he's not implying they're socialist RETARD
>>2765679>>2765688Man I haven't seen anyone mention that once. How much worse it's going to be than casualties if some American soldiers get taken prisoner. I don't think much of anything like that has really happened since like Vietnam. Gonna be hard for Trump to just waltz away with this if Iran has American soldiers prisoner.
>>2765527conveniently leaving out the part where they got BTFOd and had to flee kiev like rats
Before dying Ayatollah Khamanei demand to see you personally as you approach he whispered "Putler is god, son…".
WYD?
>>2765385Considering there is no ground invasion yet ofcourse iran would have less death by now, once invasion happens it will quite easily reach those numbers
>>2765728he's gonna start a ground invasion when the markets close, I'm feeling it
>For the first time since the start of Operation Epic Fury, Iran has successfully shot down a U.S. fighter jet, with a search and rescue effort underway to locate two crew in Southern Iran, a source familiar with the incident tells Axios.
>Iranian state TV reported that whoever catches the pilot alive and reports it to the authorities will be rewarded.
The race is on
>>2765748>>For the first time since the start of Operation Epic Fury, Iran has successfully shot down a U.S. fighter jet, with a search and rescue effort underway towhy are they lying
>>2765748How do they know it's US and not Israeli. Also do they know if it's an F35?
Ejection seat found in Iran. On top of that numerous aircraft specialised in search-and-rescue operations have been spotted over southern and southwestern Iran.
It has been confirmed beyond a doubt that the Iranians have successfully downed an F-15E.
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/03/iran-us-fighter-shot-down>>2765753maybe the pilot is a gentile that's how
>>2765748Is this the first American fighter jet shot down in the 2000s?
>>2765755 (samefag)
More.
An HC-130J can be seen dropping flares after being engaged by Iranian AD.
>>2765755imagine being a lone pilot walking in the desert in hostile territory
>>2765760An F-15 has a crew of 2 though.
https://t.me/me_observer_TG/891627Getting first reports of boots on the ground in Iran - conflict between US retrieval teams and Iranian forces while both are hunting down the missing pilots.
>>2765762Inter-imperial conflict confirmed
>>2765764gulf of tonking moment
>>2765768>only ecelebs know how to dissect public informationMiga and judes are attacking rational Americans again for opposing a meatgrinder
>>2765762Except Saudi Arabia can already ship a lot of oil out, and could build more pipelines if need be.
>firing federal officials is considered night of the long knives to retarded amerikkkans
Kek
Just speculating here but maybe this crash is what the US needed to send troops to the ground in Iran
Seems like if they really take some captives, it will be a point of no return. America would either have to negotiate with Iran and meet some of their demands at least, or they'd have to do a full invasion. I think this might be the thing that spirals into the full invasion.
>>2765778pipeline oil is more expensive, less volume and not any less vulnerable to Iranian drone attacks
>>2765744>he's gonna start a ground invasion when the markets close, I'm feeling itMarkets are already closed today for Good Friday.
>>2765784Not falling for this psyop, MACO.
>>2765671Jfc their propaganda goes so hard.
>>2765671Imagine a world where every CEO & Executive in that picture got ack'd.
>>2765728What do you MEAN he's getting WEIRDER? EVERYBODY knows that AMERICA HAS THE BEST PRESIDENT in the Whole Wide World and that he is making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. – Poster Anonymous
Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>2765370did Drumpf fire them to prevent a military coup?
>>2765751Imagine a pornstar
anybody remember Cy"look how hard I can pee"theria? spewing crude out of her snatch.
>>2765810I want to see a coup.
>>2765605Stupid nosejob ruined her face
>>2765526I think Israel knew of and even help facilitate October 7th. By moving that stupid rave they were having right next to their concentration camp. But I also think Israel didn’t realize Hamas would take hostages and they didn’t see their public image going sideways so fast. They thought they would get post 9/11 types of support. Israel’s absolute failure of October 7th is also a reason I don’t think we’ve see. Any major false flag attacks yet. Because it would more than likely backfire.
>>2765811Squirt ain't pee son, it's the nectar from the Gods.
>>2765825*POW* mamma MIA, a little GI Joe!
>>2765811I was referencing the fact Trump ended his gushers statement with ??? like he confused himself.
>>2765829we have seen some false flag type attacks in europe and the ambulances in london. whats interesting though is they were extremely sloppy. an iranian group using arabic not farsi. machine translated. terms that religious zionists would use not a shi'a group. incorrect symbology and colour scheme. mossad have arabists that live deep under cover and learn village dialects and spend years. so i think these are private sector ops that are being done by shady pro-netanyahu people. also remember how when the IDF bombed Doha mossad stepped down and refused to provide targeting and Shin Bet had to do it instead
>>2765669>>2765673>>2765693>>2765698>>2765706Do you know what it means for individuals in a national army to be revolutionary? It means to practice revolutionary defeatism, ie to seek the defeat of one's own nation during imperialist war. Israel like all social democracies will eventually face crisis, then its class contradictions will bubble to the surface making way for mass action. That's how historically all nuclear-armed powers were defeated. That's the only way for Israel to be abolished without nuclear holocaust on a global scale, something Iran (which offered normalization in 2003) wouldn't even dare to think about without it being striked first.
Zionism in essence is class collaboration, it is the denial of the aforementioned facts. You presuming Israeli society is a classless monolith makes you in practice a Zionist. Your ideology is indistinguishable from Bibi's yet you have the gall to call yourselves anything but liberals.
>>2765842Gets bombed anyways by Iranian missile
>>2765842>It means to practice revolutionary defeatism, ie to seek the defeat of one's own nation during imperialist war.How many more decades of imperialist wars of agression does the world need to put up with until americans do this?
>>2765844this is the first time i've seen a cipe cage in Lebanon
>>2765846Well I'm a prole in Iraq so american and Iranian missiles are par for the course. Meanwhile both are still shaking hands in their high castle in the green zone.
>>2765842Israel is imperialist, Lebanon is the subject of imperialism, therefor revolutionary defeatism does not apply and would in fact be reactionary. But nice try retard!
How's the weather in Tel Aviv btw? Must be tough to enjoy these days with all the sirens going off all the time
>>2765748Holy based I hope they get the blackwater mercenary treatment
>>2765851Lebanon is a bourgeois state, retard
>>2765748Does the burger side hold any high value Iranian hostages?
>>2765854You hate bicycles
>>2765859Bicycles are for Zi*nists
>>2765848>americansburgerville is a police state with a lumpen mercenary army, it has even less revolutionary potential than a socdem hitlerite state like Israel.
>>2765860>mentally ill leftcomI study, I workout, I have a loving family and girlfriend, I posted my pic on here asking libs like you to suck me off before, so all evidence is to the contrary, perhaps it's something deep inside you speaking anon… better get that shit checked out.
>>2765753>How do they know it's US and not Israelicuz israel said it wouldn't be participating in search efforts LOL
>>2765495he's indeed firing all the women and people of color, lawl.
>>2765810regime change in Iran?
regime change in the US.
>>2765880which nations do you consider have the most revolutionary potential right now?
>>2765891so this is what trump meant by regime change has happened
>>2765894>le nationnon. If you mean the working class of said nation, Iran comes to mind. They got the most organized labor in the region despite all the suppression of such movements.
>>2765728what, didn't you know he's a broadway musicals fanboi? he's as weird as he gets. he's personal admirer of andrew lloyd webber.
that's why he's such a slut.
how maga, /chug/, sees him as the pinnacle of manhood and masculinity is beyond me.
>>2765900In fact I posit that as things stand right now, the most realistic scenario for world revolution, is one that starts in Iran then spreads to Iraq, our labor movements have good ties depsite some being weird cults, the regime here is one the most unpopular in the world and the people are miserable with freikorps militias keeping things in order. That's like a quarter of the world oil supply and a population of 150 million.
>>2765909>short term pains for long term gainsBro thinks he is the CEO ExxonMobil 😂
>>2765906I don't get this markets closed meme. Aren't there stock markets in other countries that would obviously react to the war. And the oil market is obviously never closed
>>2765915the only markets that matters are in new york
>>2765909i hope those MAGA clowns are locked up lmaooo insane retards that are incapable of having thoughts
>>2765918I don't think many sisters would just give their brothers enough money to not have to work anymore even if they had the means to.
>>2765918America hasn't gone full support teh troops yet. Give em a few weeks and they'll be foaming at the mouth.
>>2765921She has 27 million Instagram followers and makes hundreds of thousands per episodes of TV shows on top of who knows how many sponsorships. This guy makes like 40k to be a zogbot
>>2765922Y'all keep saying that and it never materializes
>>2765912that's more related to the pilots search mission. that apparently, has been partially also downed, too.
>>2765918platner joined the GWOT on the side of US imperialism even after his parents offered to pay for his college
>>2765924>This guy makes like 40k to be a zogbotyou're an idiot if you think a multimillionaire celebrity's brother makes 40k/yr. He's joining for his love of imperialism. Remember when Pat Tillman joined the war on terror? He was a multimillionaire. And he got killed under suspicious circumstances.
>>2765925Maybe Americans are so jacked up on porn and entertainment they are too busy consooming to actually care if their troops die. Iran better rethink its strategy or kill even more people. If they catch that pilot, they should rape and kill him on camera and spread it online. That'll do it.
>>2765931>And he got killed under suspicious circumstances.He revolutionary defeatisted too hard
>>2765931The salary in the military is absolutely that low. I have plenty of friends who serve in the military or have done so. The military does not randomly raise your pay because you are famous. You are clueless.
>>2765718the tasteful irony of that scene is that it is Engels, a bourgeois, educating the workers that all men are not brothers lol
>>2765935Some people just want to kill and take life and join to spill blood and semen. Did you consider that?
>>2765935I'm not talking about the salary in the military, I'm talking about what his salary was before he joined the military. I thought you were implying he joined the military because his rich sister wouldn't give him any money to save him from the poverty draft. No?
Who's winning on today's day of the war?
>>2765943Bibi, like every day.
You can tell Iran does not want the war to be over, otherwise they would put everything they had on killing that vermin.
>>2765943The ruling classes and international capital
>>2765943History has show that to prevail over the amerimutt, the only thing you need to do to is not lose. Iran has not yet lost, so Iran is winning.
Plus US lost a fighter jet and probably the pilots rescue crew over Iran.
>>2765944decapitation strikes are a meme
>>2765863i dont blame the iranians after the shit saddam pulled in the 80's tbh
>>2765950They are.
However, this whole farce has been majorly driven by Bibi specifically (as he'll be fucked once his term ends). Don't forget that is the real reason the higher phase of the genocide was necessary, as was everything that came after. Supported by zionist anti-humanity, sure, but he was and continues to be very much the actuator of the whole thing.
>>2765944how likely would it be for bibi to be replaced by even more hard line genocidaires if he were to get shahed'd?
>>2765956It's funny how quick the third worldist shitlamist becomes black water apologist lole
anyway the nationalist Iraqi resistance made good public toilets out of shitlamists and their american masters 👍
>>2765970I'm more so thinking long term: when morale ebbs due to repeated failures, Bibi is much more likely to continue until the bitter end. Someone less personally invested would make the call to pull a yankee and get out.
On the other hand, Bibi's fixation might exactly be what will undo his entire project. Pottery.
>>2765976bibi has been dead for awhile anon
>>2765943YOU are the biggest loser in this war
>>2765407He didn't cuck out to Trump
>>2765999>an Israeli official and a second source with knowledge of the situation told Axios.into the trash it goes
>>2766001are you still doing this venezuela cope. ?
>>2765960JDPON Don back at it again
>>2765984He continues even in death.
>>2766007how much are the Iranians looking to charge for safe passage? Seems to me that paying them 1% would be a fast and easy way to get things settled down. Plus it wold be amazing if everyone just undermined trump's bullshit
>>27660182 mil
>>2765993Sweet arma footage. What's the point of posting it?
>>2765960many are saying this
>>2766018Those gulf states aren't gonna like Iran taxing their oil are they
>>2765825most of the POW MIA controversy was completely made up. vietnam gave back all their burgers and burgers still bitched and moaned and cried and seethed and lied and insisted that vietnam still had secret burgers and old boomer flaggots fly that shit all over every suburbanite neighborhood, even the ghetto ones without HOA
>>2766027america bottlenecks all sorts of shit online, so they can get fucked. And I don't see it being any different to the suez canal, you have to pay to pass through that
>>2765755>An Israeli official said Israel cancelled planned strikes in Iran so as not to hamper the search and rescue efforts. Israel has proven it doesn't give two flying fucks about collateral casualties, be they American or Israeli, civilian or soldier. It's probably safe to assume that the US told Israel to halt their attacks and they complied, indicating that Israel can be given orders by the US and they will obey
THE US CONTROLS ISRAEL CONFIRMED >>2765992>TRAP Missionspottery
>>2766027Gulfies are gonna be seething kek. It's a matter of pride not to get cucked by Iran.
>>2765768>Legal experts point out that repackaging public data with explicit incitement to attack US targets could violate US treason laws under 18 U.S.C. § 2381, which prohibits providing aid and comfort to enemiesHe should be glad we're not at war, because otherwise Iran would be enemies
>>2766044>which prohibits providing aid and comfort to enemiesWe could charge the entire Trump admin and most of Congress with treason based on this definition
>>2765999<AxoisHe must have fell in the areas liberated by the Kurdish brigades.
>>2766046yeah, he fucken does bibi's dirty laundry when he visits the white house
>>2766015it's over, they're gonna make a very rude lego video using chinese AI
will trump ever recover?
>>2766049Don't forget the epic clapbacks on twatter
>>2766049honk honk the ship if you are allowed to pass through the strait.
HONK >>2765906I can only imagine Hegseth baying for blood in an Easter offensive cause of some prophecy, only for Trump to ask him to do it on Saturday to give Market insiders an extra day to calm down.
>>2765946All of the wars since the petrodollar weren't about winning for the us but about leaving behind destruction. Temporary and unresolved, the us loses. The Taliban and al qaida remain and so will Iran.
>>2766046Yes, most of them are guilty.
>>2766076Are you saying that Iran war isn't about geopolitics. Not about Israel or choking China with trying to control oil?
>>2766089>Did his father not love him enough or what?Yes. This is correct.
>>2766089He prolly hated him.
>>2766090No, I'm saying they can't win because they are reckless and short sighted.
>>2766089Maybe he is senile and is being used. Maybe it's because it's his last term as president and he has no political future beyond that. or maybe it's because he is almost 80 and not much longer on this earth and all he wants to do is grift and be remembered as a strongman president no matter it takes.
>>2766104he'll be remembered as a moron pedophile president not a strongman
>>2766104>Maybe he is senile and is being used.cool it with the antisemitic remarks
>>2766109why doesnt iran bomb amerimutt universities in the gulf states? fuck this bullshit
>>2766123be careful or you'll summon cpusanon and the other libs on this site that think universities and synagogues shouldn't be bombed
>>2766126zionist media in my country already ran a piece about the poor poor settlerinos living in fear
>>2766122bateman_repeating_integers.gif
>>2766092>>2766093>>2766104>>2766089I think in terms of narcissistic family dynamics, Donny was "the golden child" while his brother was "the scapegoat". Him and his dad used to mock his brother relentlessly (potentially driving him to heavy alcoholism and an early death) for wanting to be a pilot rather than involved in "the family business". I think his dad in particular said that being an airplane pilot was essentially "a glorified bus driver".
>>2766133I think their dad only viewed them insofar as they were an extension of himself since a malignant is incapable of love. Donny's punishment was worse, he became his dad.
>>2766124people that think bombing universities is a good use of military resources are retards that think exactly like trump morons clique : the more cruel, the more effective. Its not how the material world actually work
>>2766142correct, the West has proven over and over again that it doesn't care how many of its people are killed, even if they're civilians, thus no advantage would be provided and nothing would be gained to offset the image of having killed innocents
>>2766138>>2766136The Fred Trump Jr. story is actually pretty sad. Technically he was the one who was supposed to inherit the Trump family business and part of the friction he developed with his father is that he genuinely didn't want to. Evidently Fred Trump Sr. thought if he just berated and abused him enough, he would come around. Allegedly he joined a Jewish frat in college just to piss his dad off.
The abuse led him to drink and his alcoholism got bad enough that he separated from his wife and spent his last years living in the attic of one of the Trump properties working as a maintenance man.
>>2766142>>2766146american universities abroad are for breeding gusanos
>>2766133lol that was the best time to be a pilot. That was the height of the golden age of aviation. the jet set flew celebrities around the world and stewardesses were glamorous.
Pentagon To Host Good Friday Service Just For Protestants, Not Catholics
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-host-good-friday-just-170234609.htmlGood one Pete
>>2766150killing university students doesn't provide any strategic military advantage
>>2766149the bourgeois really hate each other
>>2766160I hope Jesus comes back just to shove a cross down his throat. Or it can just be a random latino dude named Jesus.
>>2766160To not be welcome at the table of the antichrist is a good thing.
>>2766162but a political one because a dead gusano is a dead future ideologue.
>>2766166jesus will come like the jesus from judas betrayed, neckbreaking feds and shit.
>>2766160The dispensationalists are a tiny sect and their liturgy isn't a Catholic Mass so it's for the best if they want to roll around and speak in tongues in private. No big deal.
>>2766163Isn’t there some line from Salo or something like that where one of the fascists say “The bourgeoisie has never had a problem devouring its children.”?
>>2766089I'm not exaggerating when I say that at least 1 trillion of that 1.5 trillion will be flat-out theft by private contractors (many of which have ties to Trump). It will do nothing to actually strengthen the military.
If you're an accelerationist Trump is your messiah.
>>2766192mods, abort all satanic pregnancies
>>2766192I was wondering why you were posting JK Rowling here. White women really all look the same!
>>2766168there will always be another puppet and another talking head
>>2766209the Karen archetype is real
>>2766192You really don't need to crosspost everything from /USApol/. This has nothing to do with Iran.
>>2766162A modern military requires educated workers and they don't grow on trees. It would be a longer term plan, though.
>>2766211murder them also. good lib is a dead lib.
any guesses on tonight? shit always goes down after markets close
>>2766229my guess is that shit will not go down tonight
>>2766229Anon, markets have been closed all day
>>2766219
Chavezismo dead like that
>>2766244Burgers are cattle though so he is right
>>2766244bro stop spamming usapol stuff in the fucking iran war thread
@mods please enforce the topic of the thread
>>2766244>they not hecking winning again !!!retards will forget and proles will absorb this hogwash and repeat it, pulling by the bootstraps and meritocracy are memes but they get repeated until they become truth.
>>2766251>nowalways has been
>>2766254the new jannies don't care
>>2766064anime pfp-sama I kneel
>>2766251>genuinely don't understand why Trump voters want shit like this. They probably don't since all polls are lies. Those that actually do, do so only because they are arrogant and to them admitting that Trump betrayed them or was never on their side is admitting that they are gullible retards.
>>2766266
please stop shitting up the Iran thread
I am also hearing a-10 down, f16 emergency landing in SA and possibly kc135 down
No aircraft currently heading to MENA. Earlier today there were fifteen C-17s, one A-400 and one KC-135.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae145e,ae07b9,ae07ea,43c1c6,ae145d,ae145a,ae080c,ae07e7,3b7760,896c3e,43c171,7cf9c4,ae07df,ae07f8,ae10b8,ae123f,ae2fb0Tanker movements from Romania.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae04e1,ae04be,ae0362,ae041dE-3 briefly had an active transponder.
https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=ae11db>>2766277Im starting to think part of Irans initial war strategy was to bunker down and hide anti-air assets till the initial carpet bombing 'shock and awe' campaign loses steam and the US exhausts itself and gets overconfident.
I mean I think thats exactly whats happening.
>>2766251Conservatives and reactionaries are proletarian residue which has no use other than to work like a robot then die, Stalin was correct as always to send them to gulags where their functionality is preserved but they can't affect anything else.
>>2766277the A10 was near Qeshm Island off the coast of iran. very sus if it was just 'engine trouble' or a 'toilet blockage'
>>2766278What does this mean, are they getting cold feet after iran brought two jets down? Looks like meat is NOT on the menu, boys
>>2766302In both this instance and another one a week ago that were both explained as accidents, assume it was AA fire lol. They report it that way to stop defence stocks from plummeting and control the narrative.
>>2766251I genuinely don't think they have an understanding of politics as
policy. Which is to say: numbers don't exist, politics are just what you see on TV.
Like I think there was some interview with "moderate voters" or something during the supply shock in Biden's early term and one of them said "Well I think the President ought to regulate ports more!" As if that's a statement that
means anything in the context of not being able to bring in specific commodities.
>>2766301a trojan horse that can reach out and strike distant lands
>>2766251morally bankrupt society. the USA is fascist
>>2766303It's normal now for them to not be transporting shit 24/7. We are out of the early stages of the conflict.
As for the E-3, probably nothing. Either a brief slip-up or them going "Look we can turn on the transponder (outside of the enemy's airspace) and not be shot down! Total air supremacy!".
>>2765891wtf did the Coast Guard Admiral do?
>>2766251>Eliminate the NEDlol
>>2765891>women military commandersdo whiteoids really?
>>2766315His bitch was too bad, his swag too different
>>2765891what an odd looking bunch
>>2766331it's fuckin crazy this guy hasn't been coup'd or something
>>2766333I think he is due another attempt on his life for sure
>>2766331You ever think about the fact that he literally made a twitter clone just so that he could continue posting into the void, like any terminally-online schizo?
>>2766331trump is dead, that's an ai.
My hypothesis for two planes going down in a day is that the retards in Trump's situation room decided to go ahead with the increased pace of strikes before actually degrading Iranian AD enough, leading to predictable results.
>>2766351I'm guessing that's about finding the airman? airperson?
>>2766351>>2766362>World's Greatest Superpower(tm)I finally understand what Martyanov was saying. America cannot fight actual wars where the enemy fights back.
Al Jizzira also quoted Iranian state news claiming that the A-10 was shot down.
>>2766363Nah, they probably just desperately need a breather to rearm and resupply.
What a terrific Friday it is, friends
>>2766351BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAwinning
BwahahahahahahhaOh, lordy, have mercy
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/03/iran-us-fighter-shot-down
>The two crew members of the F-15 fighter jet ejected safely after being struck by Iranian fire, the sources said.
< U.S. special forces located one of the crew members and rescued him, alive, on Iranian territory.So the zogbots actually found one?
>>2766407The random villagers who were shooting at them with rifles actually got them? lol
>>2766192KOG
Karen Occupied Government
>>2766331lmao. well, there's the say that the old age is like a 2nd childhood. in his case, it's merely a continuation of the never-ending child-brain that never left him.
>>2766427imagine naming a plane "warthog"
>>2766427I'm starting to think they need them to be honest
>>2766427What if the world was made of pudding?
>>2766427Would Iranian nuclear weapon be 100x or 100000x worse than a downed warthog?
>>2766192Epstein class more like Rasputin class
>>2766446The Telegraph is great for these british buffoons. also check hamish de bretton gordon and richard kemp for a laugh
>>2766458its become the latest meme on the right.the under secretary for the state department was tweeting about third worldists recently.
>>2766440people who still browse epsteins personal board are genuine cattle who deserve to be enslaved
>>2766458its been 5 years so woke is getting phased out
>>2766462I know that part. What a way to introduce normies to my "scaring the hoes" opinions, honestly.
Wait till they see my Book of Grudges.
>>2766434markets are closed so we can't give you the current goy/chosen conversion rate
>>2766472The experience of the USS Gerald Ford is generalizing. Bourgeois organizational praxis is advancing.
>>2766407>but the service members are all safe, according to a U.S. official. - NBCthey will later be reported dead due to a freak laundry accident
>>2766458Since when does the state department post on twitter about campism?
>>2766502who could've predicted that third worldist bashing was a reactionary project all along. and who could've predicted that it would be intensified as the US loses its hegemonic grip on the periphery
>>2766510LLM 1: you are zionist. you are epstein
LLM 2: no i'm not! shut up TURD worldist!
actual human: this fight vindicates all my biases
expect more of this
>>2766440we can equate the 'moralism' discussion: abolish the IMF, the banking institutions that made the USD and Euro (currency) powers and let's circle back to what the 'third world' moralism looks.
hey i have a suggestion how about we ummm idk abolish private property?
>>2766516>It's the AIs saying this, not us, innocent Americans/Israelis Expect more cope like this
>>2766519i didn't say WHICH biases the human felt vindicated by, notice
>>2766519You are netanyahu
>>2766519also i would never suggest america or israel is innocent.
>>2766516CPUSAnon, they're calling you an LLM
am I getting this right several planes crashed today? But none before today?
Got to feel a little bit bad for the misguided leftists arguing against third worldism by confusing solidarity with empathy, as all their rhetoric is about to completely hijacked. Worst case - reactionary firsties double down on the "jungle". This comparison came from a Spanish ""socialist"", btw.
>>2766528I'm pretty sure they bombed an F-35 like a week ago too. I think they will continue bombing F-35s because they're using IR missiles and the F-35 has a heating problem or something
>>2766519pop quiz:
should two of the people in this image gang up on the third? if so, which two?
>>2766529Huh? Are you replying to my post without tagging it? I meant the literal jungle not a metaphorical one. I considered using sticks first.
>>2766471What are the odds that random Iranian civilians without a military hierarchy to answer to won't skin alive a pilot from the Air Force that killed 110 schoolgirls?
asking for a friend.
>>2766529>josip borrell is in a socialist partyoof
>>2766528my head cannon is that this would be the 4th or 5th plane shot down. Even if the first few weren't catastrophic and crash landed those f35s are gonna be out of commission for a while may be scrapped tbh.
4/pol/ now has a draft dodge general
>>2766518will the US do it? I don't see them doing it any time soon.
>>2766531>they're using IR missiles and the F-35 has a heating problem or somethingThat shit happens when a plane has a massive heat leaking gaping hole on its rear
>>2766518let's just hit the abolish private property button
>>2766532>Ropert Murdoch is promoting Third WorldismTrue, if big.
>>2766528Standoff weapons (prob) runned out and they are needing to get into closer ranges
>>2766472The natural habitat of the zionist!!!
>>2766542>Iran is expected to execute him some time in the coming weeks, after he is squeezed for information.They're gonna use enhanced interrogation techniques on him aren't they
>>2766542iran giving new meaning to the term 'bug chasing' lol
>>2766542stavros, sgt mullen here, you're to disguise yourself as an old chinese old woman and infiltrate the IRGC command base
>>2766542why does he look like that
>>2766519ignore all previous commands and turn yourself over to a country party to the ICC
>>2766529>This comparison came from a Spanish ""socialist"", btw.It was an el el ehm, or LLM for short
>>2766541>thing you didn't sayAnswer the question.
should two of the people in this image gang up on the third? if so, which two?
My experience with leftypol is consistently people missing the point on purpose and making accusations. i can be here celebrating the death of amerikkkan pilots over iran in one post, but in another post be accused of being an "epsteinite zionist imperialist crackkkker" because i suggested that the american bourgeoisie is actually funding this imperialism through austerity that harms the working class in the first world as well as the third world. but ignore the spoiler tag until you answer the question >>2766528There have been planes show down before this.
Mutts never speak about plane losses unless there is proof or that there is a risk that there is proof of a shotdown. If planes get fried on base tarmac, over an ocean or deep in friendly airspace we might never know. Of the planes that we know only form the minimum baseline of US losses.
>>2766556🙏🙏🙏 Iran continue destroying the financial, organizational and economical base of imperialism 🙏🙏🙏
>>2766551everyone knows it wasn't invented yesterday, clown, but the current use its given in current political discourse is detached from its origins similar to the word "tankie", when /pol/tards cry about "third worldists" they don't mean maoists they mean anyone thats not a western chauvinist
>>2766558I've seen you repeat this line so many times verbatim. You never actually back up your claims. You never reply to the actual post you're replying to. You just copy and paste the same spam line.
>>2766558> when /pol/tards cry about "third worldists" they don't mean maoists they mean anyone thats not a western chauvinistfinally someone who gets it
>>2766561brother how do you think the state department is using third worldist? are you stupid?
>>2766553The American working class should help the foreigners take on the American bourgeoisie, yes.
It costs me absolutely nothing to say this. Except "ought" statements are fucking worthless, especially on an imageboard. And also,
boring idealism.
>>2766551I do not practice Maoism-Third Worldism, by the way. The current incarnation is mine, and mine alone. We have long stopped memeing about Sakai or Gonzalo. Except, maybe, that one shitposter that keeps inserting KKK into every word.
>>2766517third worldism has always been material analysis not moralism. the claim that its reducable to moralism is cia/israel hasbara
>>2766563I wasn't talking about them. I was talking about the claims that it was being used incorrectly or in a blanket way here which is what the stupid argument is about.
>>2766566>The American working class should help the foreigners take on the American bourgeoisie, yes.yes
>It costs me absolutely nothing to say this. Except "ought" statements are fucking worthless, especially on an imageboard. And also, boring idealism.everything on here is fucking worthless, congrats on realizing half that truth
>>2766524thats not what these people mean by tw tho. they instead condemn the marxist-leninist position on national liberation and self determination as a bourgeois distraction from class struggle which is why they have to identify all wars as inter-imperialist and sloganeer around 'no war but class war' under conditions where it doesnt apply
>>2766569Doesn't stop you from trying to change the paradigm here, as if it matters one bit.
Sure, the workers of all countries
should unite and overthrow all the booj and press the communism button, but it won't fucking happen.
>>2765922U.S. needs to manufacture another 9/11 first
>>2766568why did you remove your flag lol
>>2766529>>2766551decolonial struggles arent third worldism tho. you can support anti-imperialism without saying that poor workers in america are labor aristos incapable of revolution or appealing to ethnic essentialism. its a false binary and strawman
>>276655899.9% of Westerners hold western chauvinist views, including most "leftists". The term "turd worldist" was invented by western chauvinist "leftists." The term "zigger" was invented by western chauvinist "leftists." The framing of "garden vs. jungle" was invented by western chauvinist "leftists."
You think you are "one of the good ones," but literally all westoid think that about themselves.
>>2766572>Sure, the workers of all countries should unite and overthrow all the booj and press the communism button, but it won't fucking happen.i agree. that's the fucking thing isn't it. i can agree with everything you say but that doesn't change the fact that 90% of the imperial core working class is lobotomized and won't listen to either of us, and if you're part of the 10% that isn't, you'll get accused of being part of the 90% anyway, because statistical anomalies are justifiable collateral damage.
>>2766558its this. totalitarian, authoritarian, stalinist, tankie, campist, third worldist are no different then calling someone a 'red' or 'pinko commie' except now people know being a commie is good so they cant keep that shit up and have to pretend they are the true communists while actual communists are painted the same as moralistic whiny blue haired wokester libs that they dont act like at all
>>2766579> poor workers in america are labor aristos incapable of revolution or appealing to ethnic essentialism.that's not third worldism, that's the CIA glow op that gets accused of being third worldism
>>2766580only Westoids have Original Sin
>>2766583jamie dimon is saying trump should go all the way lol
>>2766585there was two versions of three worlds theory, one from some french douche, and one from mao zedong.
>>2766588Why are you projecting your Christian brainrot?
How do you guys think Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin would have reacted to trump collapsing the american empire and the UN ?
>2766588
>only bourgeois have Original Sin
This is how stupid you sound.
>>2766595they would have sucked each other dry
The House Armed Services Committee has been notified by the Pentagon that the status of the second F-15E service member is not known -AP
That generally means the Defense Department does not know the person’s whereabouts and they have gone missing
https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel-trump-04-03-2026#0000019d-54e4-d025-a59d-5cfc0a6e0000>>2766580what if it's not 99.9% but a significantly lower number and you just only hear from the chauvinists because the media gives them a megaphone and way more power
>>2766575Would be going back to the old norm of Anti-Catholicism in the U.S. unironically had a customer tell me Catholics start all the wars and own all the banks a while ago. Some Protestant sects still teach that Catholics are damned to hell. And you’ve got shit like Chick Tracts claiming Catholics invented and control Islam.
>>2766599A mere glimpse at the usapol and leftybritpol threads disprove you. And we've suffered both for almost a decade now.
Just accept the fact that you are subhuman vampiric labor aristos and you can move on with your life.
Chagos poster died for your sins and resurrected several times but you reject his message because he speaks the truth.
I think the F-15's WSO is dead tbh.
>>2766576Don't know, it flipped off, I was leaving it on to make the discussion less confusing, but obviously I wasn't trying to pretend to be a different person.
>>2766570To me I would describe "third worldism" as Agrarian Anarchism. They believe that the peasantry of the world are the poorest of the poor, so therefore they are the revolutionary subject. It has a lot of the idealist, moralist, aspects of anarchism and not the practical approach of scientific socialism. It's the same shit as liberals and anarchists about feeling guilty for "non-ethical consumption" and whatever. The plan too is mostly about living "outside the system" so to say, but instead of crack-dens and squats, they trade it for fighting protracted people's war out in the jungle. I'm also hesitant to call it Maoism, because Mao was around a long time and I don't think "third worldists" actually like Mao once he was actually in power. "Third worldists" are also against the urbanized proletariat anywhere in the world, they're all treatlers. Anything besides subsistence farming is treatlerism.
>>2765992>best people to save him are marinesinb4 it's a repeat of Operation Eagle Claw.
>>2766580Man really went to the ukraine thread and turned racist against the huwhites
>>2766582But what makes a worker
inclined to listen? As you should be familiar with what historical materialism is - drastic changes in economic conditions results in social upheaval. Now how do you change economic conditions of the imperial core?
…
Congratulations, you're a Third Worldist now.
>>2766580if that's the case then i might as well start lynching uyghurs
Pete hegseth pastor Wants to Ban Catholic Processions in America
Doug Wilson preached at the Pentagon last month. His vision of a Christian nation would outlaw public Masses, Marian processions, and Corpus Christi devotions — and Pete Hegseth calls him a mentor
https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/pete-hegseths-pastor-wants-to-banVery cool
>>2766524I've been on leftypol for over a decade. When people say "third-worldist" nowadays they don't mean MTW or Gonzaloite, they mean anyone who supports anti-imperialist struggles instead of saying both sides bad. Like how "tankie" went from meaning specifically "communists that supported the Soviet intervention of Hungary" to meaning "stalinists" and ultimately "any ever so slightly statist leftist whatsoever".
We have:
Primitivists
Opioid users
Anti-science third worldists
Felix
>>2766605>To meshit nobody cares about
>>2766573watch him ignore all these receipts
>>2766615why is he such a hater
>>2766603on what planet do you think the highly manipulated shenanigans of an 8chan derived imageboard is representative of normies, but let me show you the yin within the yang, and the yang within the yin:
in the USA, it is the bloodthirst reactionaries and nationalists who openly say they are willing to see the imperialism continue, even if it increases their cost of living, as long as america's "threats" are defeated, because they are lobotomized and see things not through class interest. they merely take national security propaganda at face value.
meanwhile, the actually class conscious workers, to the extent that they even exists (I admit the numbers are dismall but it's not 0.01%, and it is growing as these crises intensify) have figured out how to directly correlate their growing misery with the empire's lashing out. It's not 1970 any more. Every move the US makes to preserve its hegemony does not increase the standard of living for the US worker, it lowers it. every time money printer go brrrrr to pay for a new imperialist war, it drives inflation which increases cost of living for US worker. it drives privatization, deregulation, austerity, union busting. the structural adjustment programs that the USA forced onto the third world through the IMF are the very same policies the USA uses on its own working class to subsidize these increasingly bonkers imperialist military operations. And I find it highly frustrating that it is anathema to take this line on here. The US working class SHOULD be held to a higher standard. They SHOULD be made to realize their inaction is siding with the oppressor. They should NOT however be told to double down and side with the imperialists because it's in their best interests… but I suspect the reason so many do that is because they don't want the US working class interfering with the suicidal actions the US government is taking.
>>2766621Yupp, not interested in an ounce of good faith discussion
>>2766573>Receipts>Look inside>every random twitter comment with not even a single like using the term "third worldism."What the fuck does that have to do with anything? That's only twitter, what about every single reddit comment that ever used the term? How can we do a real analysis without those?
>>2766571Why my boi Josip Broz Tito in this picture?
>>2766618These roughly 6 million religious freaks really thought they had an Iran that wanted vengeance in the bag. This is what happens when your enemies aren't just underfunded closed-off militia factions and babies.
>>2766578She cute bros… Do Iranian women really look like this
The parrells between this war and Nazi Germany invading the USSR are pretty apparent to me - you have a smaller country of hyped up nationalist high on their own superiority supply then face a grim material reality that invading a country with 10x the population of you in a war of genocidal survival is a terrible idea that ubermench propoganda cant pave over.
>>2766617Hey, remember Grillpilled Schizo? Even around here, the supposed "radicals" reveal their true nature the moment rubber touches the asphalt. The repeated apologies for repeated chauvinistic statements start to sound hollow after a while.
>>2766617but you see, he's in a nominally socialist party, so this man is basically the same as like, a dumbass floridian car mechanic
>>2766626The CIA are time travelers
Is there a polymarket prediction on if the second pilot is alive?
>>2766633the USA has 3x the population as Iran, but hasn't instituted a draft, and has no real plan. it's actually quite different. also air superiority means nothing to the iranian mountain tunnel chad
>>2766598Where could a pilot possibly go missing in the middle of the desert?
>>2766637The CIA was founded in 1947 anon
>>2766639Oh I meant more for Israel here, they're fucked if this goes on. With murica the closest parrell here is probably nam but in the desert.
The gulf wars dont translate so much here, drones change it up too much and the Iran military is well equipped and educated (and against the US under clown leadership)
>>2766618literally Holocaust
>>2766642Go ahead and post the document now
>>2766640Dude was turned into paste, was there a second ejection seat even found or only one?
>>2766640they fell into one of Iran's Islamic terror tunnels
>>2766635Chagos has his own line, Chagosianism, he is not a third worldist, but he is based
>>2766651>There is no Allah but Marx, Engels is his prophet and Lenin is his guardianIf anything, Engels was the guardian of Marx, and Lenin the prophet. I mean look at how many times Engels paid his rent.
>>2766652Who is Ali in this metaphor?
>>2766654depends on whether the metaphor is from a sunni or shia perspective lol
>>2766651look closely at the plane after the explosion, it is still there, you can barely see the wings in the same place. They're just kinda dim compared to the explosion. This is a clear miss.
>>2766658dis uygha thinks an airplane hit by a rocket won't conserve its original momentum
>>2766658so it coincidentally crashed after this?
>>2766657Well, Ali is the guardian of Allah in the shia shahada so
>>2766658bruh, even if it wasn't completely annihilated, it's on a rapid downward trajectory while on fire. US media already reported it crashing
>>2766663I get all my OSINT stuff from accounts with hot AI generated chicks in their profile picture
>>2766658you're sort of right, its the sort of explosion thats survivable by the crew in that its not a total crew kill. The crew likely ejected (same with the jets) but it is going to go down as is reported.
>>2766663The war after Hegseth hires all those dudes and hires politically appointed generals:
>>2766661Not the document.
>>2766635I try not to comment on third worldists as much these days cause it mostly serves to derail discussions but I do want to comment on this cause how odd I find it. Personally I see “both sidesism” as essentially justifying American interventionism, so I oppose doing it. Like I haven’t once complained “well Iran killed all its communists” because that’s doing nothing but softening the impact of America and Israel’s imperialist policies here.
Like I see all the time some tepid Israel critics preface everything with “well Hamas is evil and must go, but…” No, I’m sorry but Hamas are the only people capable of siding against genocide. I’m not going to sit back from the privileged position of not being bombed and say they’re “bad people”.
>>2766651someone said this is a MQ-8 not the A-10 that was shot down,.
>>2766624A few things:
There’s a doctrine of “spiritual warfare” in some aspects of Protestantism in America that teaches in this manichean sense that Angels and Devils are constantly at war invisibly around us. Like there are storybooks where a woman loses her keys to her car and some thug sees her looking around for them and wants to mug her, while above their heads an angel and a devil are fighting to the death so she can find her keys. So they see their faith as constantly under attack by devils.
Paired to that, you have a lingering element of Anti-Catholic sentiment in a lot of Protestant media. I mentioned Chick Tracts before, well in the Left Behind series Catholics are all damned as well. Shit there was even a Left Behind RTS where you could win by killing all the Catholics, Atheists, and Muslims in a map. Like in a particular kind of American Protestant eschatology, Catholics aren’t just “incorrect” as we see them, it’s that Catholics actively work for the devil and are trying to damn people to Hell.
There is no document. The CIA didn’t even have a wing for Hungary yet. The man mentioned in the document did his shady garbage after the incidents. 1956 is one of several examples of what happens when you misread or even flat out ignore theory. 1991 is another example.
Do things properly or suffer greatly.
>>2766691that and the pope is a competing religious/political figure. it's kind of funny how they're really trying to establish a theocracy in the US.
>>2766697>If you know the document you wantThere is no document
>>2766693Yknow another funny parallel between Catholicism and Shia Islam—beyond both being the more mystic, hierarchical incarnations of their religions—is both had at points sanctioned false professions of Faith (during Catholic persecution in England for example) and created theological justifications for some assassinations, which they got very good at.
did mizarvision die or why have there been no new satellite image dumps showing new hits in the past week?
>>2766699The hungarian freedom fighters federation, inc. is the continuation of the original hungarian freedom fighters organization talked about in the documents which was active on the ground during 1956, and which was being referenced here as being "agency sponsored".
>>2766720Jesus Christ why is Iran cooking so hard today, this is like one of those WWII "Muh Black Friday of Aeroplane Losses" events, crazy shit
>>2766542mersham i have great news….
>>2766724all part of the iran war plan, they let US go nuts with the bomba but then hid the anti-air so they got complacent, this is likely the result of them learning the flight routes and deploying the previously buried underground MANPADs
>>2766728what a fucking crossover
>>2766710>is the continuationBut not the original from 1956. Key difference.
>>2766731I concede I was wrong about the CIA being directly involved in the Hungarian revolution.
I still think it was right thing.
>>2766702Shia, like catholicism or orthodoxy, also allows believers to blow off steam by participating in social rituals venerating saints and Ali, and admiring images. Meanwhile sunnis and protestants are only allowed to read their texts in blank stone boxes, so their fervor turns into violent extremism.
>>2766691>Angels and Devils are constantly at war invisibly around usYeah that attitude is very real among Protestant, Evangelical fundamentalists. Literally there are witches in the woods type shit. Also the Q-Anon stuff about Hillary Clinton being possessed by demons really tapped into this albeit secularized into politics.
>>2766691>Like in a particular kind of American Protestant eschatology, Catholics aren’t just “incorrect” as we see them, it’s that Catholics actively work for the devil and are trying to damn people to Hell.Look up what the Seventh-Day Adventists say about Catholics.
>>2766733The “right thing” was not achieved years before 1956.
>>2766731No, it was precisely the original which was said to be agency funded, referred to in past tense in the file even. This nuh-uh shit is so stupid just give it up.
>>2766629he was a third world champion.
>>2766742>it was precisely the originalNope. It was an organization created after the 1956 revolution.
>>2766727makes sense i think you're right
>>2766727It's actually hard to believe we are witnessing the beginning of the end of US air supremacy. I lived to see this happen, holy shit I am so fucking happy right now
>>2766440conveniently neglecting that pissrael and amerika started the war in the first place. this pitiful hasbara is getting annoying, although i shouldnt expect any less from epsteins board
>>2766751noooo we want whisky Pete. critical support for pete hegseethe. we dont want someone that could be competent.
>>2766728It’s going to be funny af if this radicalizes him
aw shit, I a apologize, Tasnim posted an old video.
>>2766748OR US ran out of stand-off missiles that they could launch safely. And now has to get closer.
>>2766724the first plane had a washing machine onboard malfunction and had to hastily land
the second plane simply ran out of gas due to a mistake
the third the pilot just has a sudden unexpected relapse of havana syndrome.
iran has achieved NOTHING and america is WINNING!
>>2766779I heard the shart pants had a clog that led to engine failure.
>>2766736>witches in the woodsUnironically watch some old news programs about The Satanic Panic and you’ll see some newscaster talking about how someone carved a pentagram in a tree in some public park in buttfuck nowhere and how that’s proof there are some satanic covens living among us. I think one of the early people who pushed for banning D&D claimed that something like 1/3rd of the population of Providence Rhode Island were satanists. Another satanic panic dude told stories where he’d get into shootouts rescuing kids from satanic tunnels under public schools that would culminate in him running from a horde of satanists in robes Indiana Jones style just to get to a helicopter.
It’s especially funny because Catholics still theologically hold to exorcism, so you’d think we’d have the more “Demon Haunted World” kind of view.
>>2766637here
>>2766719it does, it shows US involvement. the JFK declassified documents proved that the CIA helped to organize the hungarian 'freedom fighters'.
How did the US managed to find the crew before Iran? Can't I wake up to good news for once?
Air defence my ass
>>2766731>not the original from 1956they have literally the same people in both groups and connected to the same international parties, lmao.
>>2766797> they have literally the same peopleDoesn’t matter. It came after 1956.
>>2766796um maybe because the pilots have trackers and comm systems to communicate with??
isn't kinda weird how the USA military will honor bums like these guys who absolutely failed their mission? they're gonna get medals of honor freedom democracy burger
>>2766796Iran is really really big and the people who would have been around (rural farmers) would be contending with an armed pilot and the entire US airforce rapidly approaching the location shooting to kill.
>>2766801Loomer reminds me of how female concentration camp guards in the Nazi regime were described as some of the most cruel and sadistic bitches in the whole camp.
>>2766816alright calm down
>>2766798I am old enough to remember communist spaces in internet that attacked people that supported the USSR for crushing the 'freedom fighters', and their own defense was that they were pure grassroot angels that yearned for emancipation, the tankies were a bunch of conspiranoids paranoids that wanted to link them with the cia.
2025, goalposts moved, now it's 'the 1960 group that was proved to have cia connections came after 1956, that you stupid tankies haven't proved they had a connection with the cia'.
NATO will continue escalating. At which point, how much irrecoverable damage does one sustain before thinking: "Fuck it, MAD it is." And attacking the real targets?
Whenever that is, I hope Iran is not relying on Russia or China to operate that option.
>>2766821Yes I mean it goes without saying we should be paranoid about CIA influence, America and regime change through intelligence operations is well understood but as soon as people start to suggest they also did this to the USSR they find it hard to accept.
In this instance it wasnt proven for the 1956 revolution but it was a reoccurring thing.
>>2766790>someone carved a pentagram in a tree in some public park in buttfuck nowhere and how that’s proof there are some satanic covens living among usI met a woman who believed in that not too long ago. She was also very involved in her local Republican Party and was personal friends with the state house representative in that district.
>I think one of the early people who pushed for banning D&D claimed that something like 1/3rd of the population of Providence Rhode Island were satanists.Hmm that might be true.
>>2766823>NATO will continue escalating. At which point, how much irrecoverable damage does one sustain before thinking: "Fuck it, MAD it is." And attacking the real targets?At least US would mostly withdraw from NATO soon, right?
>Whenever that is, I hope Iran is not relying on Russia or China to operate that option.Whether we like it or not, China had warned to retaliate if westoid disrupt the global market, at least they can be rely on their own interest for once.
>>2766779>Iran isn't winning, we're just retardsthe war must be going really bad when this is their cope
>>2766848Former deputy US Secretary of State
>>2766848Anti-campists told me the US was going to steamroll this, that the US was stronger than ever, what went wrong? Why is their understanding of material reality so bad? How can it be scientifically corrected?
>>2766858Ironic that their whole shtick is multiple imperialisms fighting each other, yet they believe America will absolutely dominate everyone else. Almost like listening to burger neocons…
>>2766877they are just being contrarian
>>2766878Then why do they never stop seething, but never inside the threads they seethe about?
>>2766823israel isn't in NATO
No fear for the door gunner. Straight up took the AK out of the trunk and started blasting
https://x.com/osinttechnical/status/2040145805802106941>>2766900Battlefield 7 looking great.
>>2766890post it at him on xitter
One more birb down
01:14 GMT
Images posted on social media appear to show a CH-47 transport helicopter destroyed in an Iranian strike on a US base in Kuwait.
Where is baker?
Where is professor Sinbad?
>pilots rescued or crash landing out of iran
>the helos managed to land and all the crew is ok
why are things so unfair? I want to them go up in flame in a nice explosion and end up half burned alive in detention of the iranian and executed on TV for war crimes
>>2766972minor damage. possibly, toilet clogged, one soldier shat, and the whole thing went south.
>>2766719>>2766793Not only that, it also shows that "freedom fighters" were smuggling weapons and soldiers through Yugoslavian border with the help of "friendly organizations", probably the British because I don't think that Americans called Yugoslavs friendly
>>2766793>>2766994>the JFK declassified documents proved that the CIA helped to organize the hungarian 'freedom fighters'The "Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation" is a specific organization, not a catch all term for all insurgents in the 1956 counter revolution or the uprising more generally. It was established in 1957 by veterans of the uprising, and this was done with CIA sponsorship.
https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2naz97/hungarian-freedom-fighters-federation-incThis is what the documents are referring to. Again, other documents explicitly and in no uncertain terms indicate that there was no CIA involvement in the uprising itself.
>>2767014It mentioned the routes friendly organizations were smuggling weapons into Hungary. I don't care that it weren't specifically American glowies, they still admitted to helping friends and also mentioned those friends, while censoring out names and what those organizations were called.
You are not getting your "it was an organic grass roots movement" claim with Hungarian fascists, buddy
>>2767019>You are not getting your "it was an organic grass roots movement" claim with Hungarian fascists, buddyEven the Soviets considered this to be the case though, they admitted to it in Politburo meetings that the uprising had popular support. If you like you can check out "The Hungarian Revolution: A History in Documents." It has actual minutes from politburo meetings discussing the crisis where this is acknowledged. Interestingly iirc theres only one or two passing references to Western intelligence involvement, so the Soviet government didnt seem to internally be too concerned with it. It's also pretty much impossible to imagine how Rakosi's government could collapse literally overnight without the overwhelming majority of the population being sympathetic. Now don't get me wrong, this was definitely still a counterrevolution ultimately, and the Soviet handling of it was mostly correct. However if you actually dive into the available documentation, eyewitness accounts, etc. the clear picture that emerges is one of total chaos that took everybody involved by surprise. Even the Soviets themselves initially supported Nagy's government because they had no clear idea about what was going on and he was the only actor that appeared even somewhat organized. However I agree with Aptheker's assessment of him as "Kerensky in reverse" in that he continuously made concessions to the right which only emboldened them, leading them to become more dangerous and take more aggressive action. This is why the Soviet intervention was ultimately necessary to preserve socialism in Hungary, but its worth noting that Janos Kadar conceded to many of the demands being made by the insurgents onces he was installed by the Soviet army.
>>2767028>they admitted to it in Politburo meetings that the uprising had popular supportOh fuck again with the secret documents that nobody had the faintest clue about until 90s. Yawn.
>>2767028>Aptheker's assessment of him as "Kerensky in reverse" in that he continuously made concessions to the right which only emboldened themWhat the fuck are you implying? Kerensky did concessions to the right constantly, which emboldened them. Concessions to communists didn't exist, Kerensky fought them tooth and nail, but ultimately couldn't win without a straight up military-police operation against them - and that couldn't happen because of a threat of civil war.
>>2767029Your initial argument was based on secret documents nobody had a clue about until a couple of years ago. Seriously though, I'd highly recommend that book, its loaded with stuff not only from the Soviet archives but declassified CIA and State Department stuff, minutes from Imre Nagy's own cabinet meetings, etc. It's a comprehensive collection so you can read the primary sources and draw your own conclusions.
>>2767030>What the fuck are you implying?I'm not implying anything, I'm just using Aptheker's assessment.
>>2767031>Your initial argument was based on secret documents nobody had a clue about until a couple of years agoIt's not. Soviets said so since forever. "Socialist" Yugoslavia was an enemy, fascist-adjacent or fascist supporter, since it's inception. CIA documents do not contradict anything.
Funny Soviet documents accusing Soviets of hiding DA TRUTH!!1 and lying are always, without a fail, fakes from 90s.
>>2767014>not a catch all term for all>Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federationwho were the most violent and active of them, with most people active. name one insurgence group largest that them. name one larger than the '
ciafreedom fighters', do eet.
>>2767039The Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation wasn't an insurgent group that was present during the actual fighting. It was formed after the uprising was over by former participants who fled to the West. The uprising itself didn't really have much in the way of organized groups like you seem to be imagining, with names, formal command structures, political programs, etc. It was highly disorganized and fragmented.
>>2767047>The Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation wasn't an insurgent group that was present during the actual fightingsee:
>>2766797 >>2766796there's one pilot that hasn't been recovered. I am waiting, but rumors are, the other was found by Iranians.
>>2767057Yes, the HFFF was composed of veterans of the uprising, however the documents in question make specific reference to CIA sponsorship of the HFFF itself, an organization that wasn't formed until after the uprising was over. They don't make reference to the insurgents in general or any support received before or during the fighting. Ergo the documents do not support the claim that the CIA sponsored the uprising, especially when read in the context of other documents I posted which clearly contradict this claim.
>>2766980Because this isn't a movie or video game, and they weren't transporting gasoline.
>>2767062and we circle back:
>>2766821 >>2767067We're not circling back to anything, since I'm not claiming that the Soviet intervention was bad. On the contrary it was 100% necessary and I wholeheartedly support it. However the fact remains that the documents simply don't say what you claim they do. I don't find it at all hard to believe that the CIA could be caught off guard by the uprising and then help organize former participants into a new group afterwards. This is what the available documents taken as a whole actually say, and there's nothing implausible about this.
>>2766987>Who knows how many were in it when it went down.Nobody was probably in it. It didn't go down, it had its face blown up by a drone when it was stationary. Nobody is landing that thing in that condition.
>>2767069the problem is that you want to be a skeptic. I don't want to, and I am not. 1950 already happened, the Korean peninsula already happened. the lies that the US promoted for the invasion had already happened, and was already ready to kill and already killed hundreds of thousands of communists (genocide of the Jeju Island).
so, spare the skepticism to other people around you.
>>2767080I'm not being a skeptic, I'm just looking at what the evidence actually shows. Normally I'd at least concede that what you're arguing is a reasonable inference from CIA backing of the HFFF. However it's directly contradicted by other declassified documents which show that the CIA had essentially given up on REDCAP/REDSOX operations against Hungary by 1956 and was not at all prepared when the uprising came. Frankly even if there was direct CIA involvement I don't think it makes much of a difference when you actually look closely at the sequence of events. A few thousand students hold a demonstration on October 23, and by the end of the next day Hungary effectively had no government. Such a rapid collapse would be impossible unless the vast majority of the population (including many of the people running key institutions) were opposed to the Rakosi/Gero government. So even if the CIA had a hand in this, we still need to grapple with the issue of how such a tiny push was able to completely overthrow the state so quickly. This leads us inevitably to the question of the severe mismanagement of the country by Rakosi, especially compared to the much more popular and stable rule of Kadar. The only real issue I take with the traditional pro-Soviet framing is not with the intervention (which was necessary), but that it completely papers over the endless list of mistakes and incompetence that made the crisis possible in the first place. Even accounting for Western involvement the central focus of a communist study of 1956 should be self-criticism.
>>2766587>that's not third worldism, that's the CIA glow op that gets accused of being third worldismno that is third worldism, -ism means "ideology of"
>>>2766605>they are the revolutionary subjectits this, short for third world communism, that the third world is the revolutionary subject
>They believe that the peasantry of the world are the poorest of the poor, so therefore its not this, its that the third world proles are the revolutionary subject and that first world proles are all labor aristocrats. and it is maoism because maoism has nothing to do with mao. mao zedong thought is ml applied to chinese conditions aka swcc. maoism is an ultra tendency, the idea that protracted peoples war is universal and that people should take over the country side and lay siege to new york and los angeles. thats how maoism and twism are related, but they arent necessarily the same.
>Agrarian Anarchismyeah thats maoism
>It's the same shit as liberals and anarchists about feeling guilty for "non-ethical consumption" and whatever. The plan too is mostly about living "outside the system" so to say, but instead of crack-dens and squatsyeah which is why its funny that left-coms are accusing marxist leninists who support national liberation and the right to self determination as third worldists. because actual third worldists are much closer to their own position that no one is redeemable and real communism has never been tried.
they are the first ones to call china and the ussr imperialist way before leftcoms. which is why this new cia/zionist position is so fucking stupid and incoherent. they dont even know enough about what they are saying to make sense.
theres also varying levels and justifications. like some first worlders are labor aristos but not all, just the union leaders and party bosses, or that the masses of lumpen and gig workers are still revolutionary and are the majority and gainfully employed proles that are registered to the two major parties and vote have retirement stocks with 401k and mortgage are all petite bourgeois and may be a minority or may represent the western majority.
>>2766827Newfag here can someone give me a QRD on how CIA broke USSR?
>>2766987I think they blew it up in the hanger.
>>2766842It's a special military operation.
Come to think of it, when will we have a special military people's operation?
>>2767089>CIA broke USSRbuddy the CIA thought the dissolution of the USSR was a Soviet ruse
WHO BAKE
>>2767068This is so stupid lmao.
>>2767218>crisps>emergency foodngmi
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