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>>2799001>>2801666"You will all have to suffer for the greater good, but that is a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
>>2801666Fighter Pilot: "You're about to find out why Americans can't afford groceries, gas, healthcare, or college."
explodes >>2801665anyone have that old webcomic of like the american succdems going back in time to the 1940s and being like "we're scary socialists from the future" and they start saying how they want to like raise the corporate tax rate to like 20% and the people back then reply that it's already 90?
CHINA BLOCKS US SANCTIONShttps://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2026/5/3/china-blocks-us-sanctions-against-five-teapot-refineries
>China has announced an injunction to block US sanctions placed on five Chinese refiners accused of buying oil from Iran.>The US sanctions announced by the Department of the Treasury late last month bar the refiners from the US financial system and seek to penalise anyone doing business with the firms.>In a statement on Saturday, China’s Ministry of Commerce said the sanctions “improperly” restrict business between Chinese enterprises and third countries “in violation of international law and the basic norms governing international relations”.>The Commerce Ministry said it had issued a “prohibition order” stipulating that the sanctions “shall not be recognized, enforced, or complied with,” calling the order a move to “safeguard national sovereignty, security, and development interests”.>“The Chinese government has consistently opposed unilateral sanctions that lack UN authorisation and basis in international law,” the ministry added.>It said the order blocked US measures against Hengli Petrochemical (Dalian) Refinery and four other so-called “teapot” refineries: Shandong Jincheng Petrochemical Group, Hebei Xinhai Chemical Group, Shouguang Luqing Petrochemical and Shandong Shengxing Chemical.>Announcing the sanctions on April 24, the US Treasury Department called Hengli “one of Tehran’s most valued customers”, saying it had generated hundreds of millions of dollars in revenue for the Iranian military through crude oil purchases.>The Trump administration imposed sanctions on the other four refineries named by the Chinese ministry, among other facilities, last year.>China gets more than half of its oil from the Middle East, much of it from Iran.>According to commodities data firm Kpler, China bought more than 80 percent of the oil Iran shipped in 2025.>China’s “teapot” refineries operate independently and are generally smaller than the facilities run by state-owned oil giants, such as Sinopec.>The facilities, which have been crucial to China’s efforts to secure its oil supplies, capitalise on heavily discounted crude sold by countries under sanctions, such as Iran, Russia and Venezuela.>Teapots account for a quarter of Chinese refinery capacity, operate with narrow and sometimes negative margins, and have been squeezed recently by tepid domestic demand.>US sanctions have created additional hurdles for refiners, including difficulties selling refined products under their correct place-of-origin markings.The American Century of Humiliation is in full swing.
What do we do about our country being full of prison death camps and nobody is talking about it?
>>2801698Literal prison torture camps for sure, if not overt death camps.
>>2801698Trials and executions of all responsible.
>>2801705Basically it's creating a separate oil economy free from the petrodollar. Worst-case scenario for the US if this goes on. Trump is the greatest hero in Chinese history.
My genuine concern for the left isn't woke or anti-woke but rather just the left being kind of stuck up as a whole. For as much the right goes on about how important gate keeping is, we are just way better than them when it comes to doing that shit.
>>2801698The bourgeois already built the infrastructure they belong in
>>280170899% of online discussions about the state of "the left" are not materialist. It's all vibes and melodrama.
>>2801708Getting politically marginalized to the fringes from the 80s through the 00s turned us into an insular subculture with bad friends
>>2801698well we could organize peaceful protests in frog costumes outside of ice camps, and then we could get made fun of by both the left and right online who don't even do that much for being gay and cringe, and then get shot anyway by pigs after one of their undercover provocateurs throws a pebble from behind our lines.
>>2801817Liberals love pretending they aren't "authoritarian", and it's very easy for them because they are hegemonic, and the entire system runs on autopilot to enforce liberal violence. It all appears to be "freedom" because liberalism is decentralized and free of blame. Liberal revolutionaries were also very authoritarian back when liberalism was new. Cromwell as lord protector, Napoleon as emperor, Robespierre on the comittee of public safety, Washington crushing the whiskey rebellion and shay's rebellion. Liberals are experts at making their violence look like it is just the world operating without their input. Because society has already been violently remolded in their image since the 1700s.
>>2801822all you have to do to get a liberal to start talking like maga is go super anarchist, maoist or ultra left talking point on them and defensive mode comes out hard.
>>2801817>we will spend years in the minoritysays while they are in the minority for being a big tent that embraced the cheneys and bushes.
>>2801820what an audience of feckless scions, sycophants, bootlickers, shoe-shiners, cocksuckers
>>2801827>>shoe shinersSpit shining too.
>>2801817>He promotes violence and repression whenever that violence and repression have a socialist lean.wtf I love Hasan now??
>SHOTS FIRED NEAR WHITE HOUSE COMPLEX
>>2801817ziohran arrested thousands of antizionist, made protesting outside synagogues illegal, multiply ziotaskforce budget by 8x, increase nypd postings in zionist communities. Zohran is fascist who increase police brutality
The two sides of liberalism largely just boils down to whether or not they value credentials or prestige. This is even reflected in the off-shoot bases of "Not Maga: Feuntes/Clavicularpilled edition" and the "Dark Woke: Hasan/Sec Talk edition".
To those who value prestige it is all about what zoomers call "Aura" where presentation is the premium currency while with the credentialist they tend to value what I call "Test taking" where your familiarity with concepts is more important than anything else.
This is also why in spite of their insistence on it, the credentialists are just way fucking better at actually gate keeping their media
Without Haz, there is no left
>>2801869unironically might join the ACP just because they're the only org I can see achieving anything in my lifetime, due to Haz being just retarded enough to resort to Maoism without caring how it affects the petit-bourgeois.
they are still a joke though so I'd only join if they got their shit together and abandoned social conservatism.
>>2801871If your understanding of Marxism and politics in general is so rigid that you actually believe the ACP is a legitimate last resort, maybe you need to go outside.
I'm the Caleb Maupin of leftypol posters
>>2801871Might as well just join the Republican party if this is only about "getting things done" for retards like you
>>2801873What party is better
>>2801875What communist party is better, liberal
>>2801871>social conservatism.I hate this term because it's a vacuum that people just fill with whatever they want. People (mistakenly imo) think that any kind of personal discipline (sobriety, exercise, eating right, practicing armed and unarmed self defense ) is "social conservatism."
>>2801876None of them. It's America. This place sucks and you're better off just participating in regular politics or nothing at all. If you absolutely must join an org to feel like you're doing something, join the DSA (don't be a faggot) or the CPUSA (respect the OGs). They're the only two orgs with enough people and actual motion. Literally everything else is hyper specific or meme bullshit.
Don't be a fucking hipster about being a leftist in the USA, it won't get you anywhere.
>>2801877if people denounce conservatism does that make them liberals? imo, no. if people denounce liberalism, does that make them conservative? imo, no. The problem in America is no independent working class party. They all in some form or another burden themselves with bourgeois ideology, be it "liberal" or "conservative" in flavor.
>>2801880The problem with america is the imperial superprofits allow the state to completely ignore the working class entirely. Imperialism is coming to an end now, so that is clearing up on its own. You're right, there should be an independent working class party. But how you actually CREATE that is by utilizing already existing structures that has talented people in it already, and then evolving from there.
>>2801875I want revolution in my lifetime so that makes me a Republican?
>>2801878yeah but ACP goes beyond "personal discipline" into bigotry towards marginalized groups just because they want to appeal to the bigotry of American chuds.
Politics is an organic and creative endeavor, that requires outside the box thinking and an understanding of *people* first and foremost. If you're obsessed with creating the perfect party line, with the perfect structure, completely free of sin, you'll get nowhere. You'll be perfect, but you'll also be irrelevant. You might as well just get a job and be a prole if that's how you're going to approach it. Much more useful to the world that way
>>2801881>But how you actually CREATE that is by utilizing already existing structures that has talented people in it already, and then evolving from there.maybe but people on here will just yell at you for thinking you can change existing institutions from the inside. they will say you are making an entryist/reformist error, while simultaneously bemoaning the existing issues with the existing orgs.
>>2801882>yeah but ACP goes beyond "personal discipline" into bigotry towards marginalized groups just because they want to appeal to the bigotry of American chuds.it is good for you to name the specific issue you have with them like this because then it prevents others from (deliberately or otherwise) misinterpreting what you mean by "social conservatism" because there seems to be a lot of young people who now operate off vibes and think conservatism means personal discipline, or even conserving the environment. you think i'm joking but i knew someone like this once. vibes and etymology was the foundation of their political understanding.
>>2801861>>2801868Is it TDS to absolutely hate this fat piece of shit and want him to drop dead? I didn't used to feel this way but now I can't stand the sight of him.
>>2801886>maybe but people on here will just yell at you for thinking you can change existing institutions from the inside. they will say you are making an entryist/reformist errorI will never support a reformist after Bernie. Reformists have burned too many people to ever win popular support again. On top of that, the entire US imperial structure relies on exploitation and harm and there is no amount of reform you can do that can eliminate that harm whilst the deep state apparatus remains intact. It doesn't matter who you elect if the CIA still controls the war crimes etc.
>>2801817>Nor is he disliked simply because he speaks up for Palestinians"I am a proud neoliberal globalist…wait no, actually I'm nuanced and complicated"
>>2801871>ACP achieving anything in my lifetimeyeah, mass suicide!!!!
>got their shit together and abandoned social conservatismthey are LaRouche hackfrauds. A snake oil salesmen will sooner become a doctor than those preemptively-surrendering red fascist losers will ever leave their cowardly nature
<“Tailism in any type of work is also wrong, because in falling below the level of political consciousness of the masses and violating the principle of leading the masses forward it reflects the disease of dilatoriness. Our comrades must not assume that the masses have no understanding of what they themselves do not yet understand. It often happens that the masses outstrip us and are eager to advance a step when our comrades are still tailing behind certain backward elements, for instead of acting as leaders of the masses such comrades reflect the views of these backward elements and, moreover, mistake them for those of the broad masses.” —Mao, “On Coalition Government” (April 24, 1945), Selected Works, vol. 3, p. 316. >>2801698> our country being full of prison death camps and nobody is talking about it?Mentioning concentration camps is offensive to Jews, you must apologize to us Zionist moderators or we will use our control over media and education and politics shadowban you and prevent you from talking about anything
<Wake up baby. It’s time for your daily dose of Jewish feelingshttps://xcancel.com/eyuplovely/status/1840840181546442846 >>2801891>what isn't to be done: blah blah blahyes but what IS to be done?
>>2801897>what IS to be done?urban maoism
>>2801897The campaign I am managing. Jack wilimos ( u.s senate-north Carolina).
>>2801901i heard he's first in the polls
>>2801887>Their members say a lot of homophobic things>gay nazi flagassuming it is exaggerated
>>2801902Not that optimistic but I won’t be surprised if he becomes a surprisingly dark horse candidate. Our own inside polling shows that even staunch Republican areas would be willing to vote for such a candidate.
>>2801919
>That's on them not me
It's actually on you mostly. You were careless and brought heat where no one was prepared. All in the face of the advice you were given otherwise to chill out and not be a "hero".
>>2801930like what was the actual point of what he did other than as an attention seeking stunt. it had no practical or theoretical value. he threatened a 3rd rate conseravative celebrity who hasn't been relevant for years, using an account with his name and face attached to it, after attaching himself to a real life org. wrecker behavior if i ever saw it. but probably not a wrecker. just an attention seeking grifter.
>>2801930to be fair to Houdini people told him to leave Florida like over a year ago because it's a fascist hellhole and he refused because he didn't want to abandon his DSA allies. So now he's reaping the consequences of living in a fascist hellhole just because he thought the American government wouldn't be brazen enough to target and arrest a MARXIST in FLORIDA lol.
actually come to think of it this isn't "being fair" to him at all since it's not a defense of him, it's moreso just pointing out that all his allies in Orlando DSA are also living in a fascist hellhole and there is no use to organizing there unless you are suicidal. there is nothing of value worth preserving in Florida in terms of labor organizing.
Is it just me or is not wanting "Black people to get ahead" the whole ass problem with this country. I mean there's no affordable health care, higher ed, homes or anything people actually need. But hey wanna build jails or do wars or flood the streets with drugs and guns. We can always accomplish that. I seriously hate this place.
>>2801936>to be fair to Houdini people told him to leave Florida like over a year ago because it's a fascist hellhole and he refused because he didn't want to abandon his DSA allies. So now he's reaping the consequences of living in a fascist hellhole just because he thought the American government wouldn't be brazen enough to target and arrest a MARXIST in FLORIDA lol.he wasn't targeted for being a marxist in florida. he literally got on social media, clearnet, on an account with his name and face attached, sought out a conservative celebrity, got in her DMs, made what could be perceived as a legally actionable threat, and then she called the police LOL. it was a completely unforced error. neither strategically or tactically useful. pure spectacle. completely irrelevant attention seeking behavior. If he were targeted for being a "Marxist" DSA member then his entire chapter would have been rounded up with him, but they weren't. Like if shit in my hands, and throw it at someone's face on camera, and they take me to court, I wasn't targeted for my politics LOL.
>>2801898>urban maoismblack panthers?
>>2801936One of our mods is in a florida DSA and they're just fine, because they don't poke (or repeatedly stab) the bear.
>>2801936Reaping the consequences of having poor opsec. Sheriff chitwood is out of florida and was able to get a few poltards indicted and extricated to Florida because of messages they posted on 4chan.
I wish I lived alone so I would have been able to offer Houdini a place to crash in San Antonio, things are slowly heating up here and I think he could have put some of his design skills and shit to use getting young people amped up.
Houdini has what I would like to frame as the least problematic form of narcissism which is the pro-social "hero" type of narcissism that is still not great lol. He developed this persona (false self) as a way to survive because he was neglected by his surroundings in formative years (not just his family but also his home town). This is pretty classic. I've been there myself actually just not to the same degree.
But now it's a problem because he expects help for "saving" the proletariat when that's not what's happening. He's desperately trying to find a real identity in the mess of capitalism and general neglect, but doesn't want to face the pain of mundanity because he believes he *can't* be normal. Yada yada blah blah go to therapy just be normal etc. This is the worst website for someone like him to spin his wheels.
R/trueanon seems to despise Platner but he is up in the polls? How is that possible?
>>2801945>>2801947>R/trueanon seems to despise Platner but he is up in the polls? How is that possible?maybe i misunderstand, but you seem to be assuming a random subreddit should be indicative of the population of maine being polled? why? anyway, he's up in the polls because his opponent dropped out
>>2801947Because the internet isn't real life and Platner will probably win regardless of what internet communists say. No one here is important, no one on reddit is important.
>>2801947because Platner represents the will of the people of Maine while /r/trueanon represents the will of a bunch of internet neckbeards who listen to podcasts and think cumtown is peak humor.
>>2801952>Will of the peopleWhile I don't think Platner is the antichrist or whatever, and I've never been vociferous against him nor clutched my communist-non-commodity pearls at the subject, I wouldn't say he represents the will of the people directly lol. It's still a gay election in a gay country with the worst electoral system on earth, and Platner is just some guy who was foolhardy enough to put himself out there. He has the bare minimum acceptable platform for any politician to run in the USA imo.
>>2801947because AIPAC democrats couldn't find a better candidate to sponsor than 80 year old Janet Mills, and AIPAC republicans couldn't find a better candidate to sponsor than 80 year old Susan Collins
>>2801665Considering the state of S Korea, I'm surprised not many people just say "fuck it"
>>2801955This is a bit too charitable to him but his campaign was "relatively" grassroots by American politics standards. The entire Democratic establishment was backing Janet Mills, and even the Republicans were backing her because they think Platner is a Communist. And yet he still won because he represents the mythical working class crab farmer everyman of Maine while his opponent is a lifelong politician who had the classic political route of having rich parents and becoming a lawyer and prosecutor etc. She's been embedded in Maine politics since the 1970's.
That said Platner has his own ties to Zionism and obviously is an ex-soldier that probably killed brown children but Maineites don't care about that.
>>2801959>CharitableIdk how you even got that out of what I said. But yeah, his platform is actually very good when you compare it to the utter dogshit that is the typical dem platform. He didn't just get popular by being a jughooter oyster farmer or whatever, people actually like the social democratic policies he pushes that no other standard Democrat will even touch. It's that simple.
>>2801959>>2801960>>2801955I think a lot of Platner's success is apparently he's been campaigning pretty heavily?
Like a lot of these older politicians just sort of put things on autopilot. They'll have consultants put out TV ads and fliers and basically just want to win while putting as little work in as possible, though I suspect part of that is because their bodies just aren't as strong as they used to be.
Most of what I've seen of Platner is that he does a lot of on the ground campaigning, people know him.
>>2801960Oh no I meant my post was being too charitable to him by calling him grassroots. But he's probably the closest we'll get in America.
>>2801782Based Retard Theory of Trumpism
>>2801887>they think banning the gay is the highest form of protest against American social imperialismBased on who I know it's disproportionately LGBTQ.
You're an idiot
>>2801961>>2801959Nobody pays attention to Maine either, it might as well not exist (it's surprisingly large geographically as well) and most Americans don't know anything about it except Stephen King novels about evil clowns who hide in storm drains. They also have a history of electing crazy people like Paul LePage (who Mills replaced as governor because he was term limited out, and has a solid chance of getting elected into Congress this year along with Platner). They also have a reputation for being parochial and wary of outsiders at a time when a bunch of people from other states are sticking their noses in their business.
>>2801964I feel sorry for them.
>>2801964I'm not sure if you mean LGBTQ's are disproportionately social imperialists or ACP is disproportionately LGBTQ's. Can you clarify?
>>2801961Ah yes, the classic progressive DSA-endorsed-candidate move of
doing the bare minimum work in a campaign by actually campaigning that seems to obliterate every centrist establishment Democrat in the polls because they're lazy idiots who think donations alone can win elections forever
>>2801966Lepage was a Proto-trump basically. Question: do you think Jack wilimos has what it takes to win North Carolina? Are they ready for a pro-hoxha Marxist-Leninist senator?
>>2801967ACP is disproportionately LGBTQ
>>2801975Haz does have that habit of collecting femboys into his harem while being publicly homophobic.
>>2801976What homophobia?
>>2801978https://www.reddit.com/r/ShowInfrared/comments/18uw6b7/haz_aldin_talks_about_known_homosexual_adolf/here's a video from his own stream where he's doing a bit about calling Hitler a homosexual that did homosexual speeches and spread homosexuality to the masses.
>>2801976Wait till you hear about how publicly homophobic gay people can be
>>2801989that feeling when you read retarded schizoposts and find yourself accidentally agreeing with them…am I retarded?
>>2801995The guy in that picture is literally the Mormon Epstein: Warren Jeffs
>>2801997isn't every mormon the mormon epstein? i thought pedophilia was like their whole thing?
>>2801993Yeah dude. You're kind of retarded. Why do so many on /leftypol/ take imperialist pinkwashing propaganda against queers at face value? 10 years before Obama it was the Christian fundamentalists and conservatives who were leaning into Christian zionism and saying "kill all the ragheads, bomb the entire 3rd world" and the whole "gay liberal imperialism" thing is a fairly recent development in American society, rather than some kind of eternal truth going back to the Monroe Doctrine. furthermore, why do LGBT people get singled out as somehow
uniquely imperialist when the vast majority of cishet reactionaries also support imperialism? It's not that there AREN'T queer imperialists in the USA, it's that the USA is full of imperialists, both queer and otherwise.
>>2801998yeah but warren jeffs took it to another level
Policy update:
Mr. Wilimos will crack down on lawnmower noise pollution! How? By influencing the governor to pass a law that will increase the fines from $200 to $400 for highly aggressive violations.
>>2802000It's not so much that I agree with homophobia on any level but that I'm tired(fatigued?) of how leftism has become synonymous with yelling TRANS RIGHTS, FEMINISM FUCK YEAH, MORE FEMALE CEO'S IN THE BOURGEOIS, and doing nothing else, and leftists are in general seen as a collective of social "undesirables" and not representative of the working class. That isn't the fault of these individual groups but more a fault of how organizing is done in America based around social issues instead of economic ones. The entire basis for the modern American Left is the same as the Democratic party: trying to form a fragile big tent coalition of groups with no real strong positions on anything except their own identity and then immediately collapsing as soon as any ideological conflict arises.
this is probably most obviously evident with how even among the American left it's impossible to have a reasoned discussion on Mao or Stalin without the discussion inevitably turning into trying to disprove CIA propaganda and red scare nonsense that has been ingrained in the American psyche.
I don't think LGBT people are uniquely imperialist, more like the entirety of American politics is united under imperialism and the "left" is no different in its demands to enforce cultural imperialism for the sake of protecting gays/women/etc in whatever country the US decides to wage war with. I think by this point people have kinda caught on about the inherent imperialism involved in the Ukraine war but for a good few years organizations like DSA were paralyzed by infighting over whether Russia is the enemy for oppressing gays or Ukraine is the enemy for promoting US interests. the same debate sort of happens on the fringes when it comes to Iran but at the very least people are smarter about it now and less prone to falling for it.
I guess if I had to pick a position it would be China's stance on LGBT: that is, not giving a shit who you have sex with and focusing primarily on rooting out western cultural imperialism from civil rights debates and focusing entirely on the inherent right to peaceful coexistence. gay people need to be free and there is no inherent societal sin in being gay and nothing "degenerate" about it, but they should be assimilated into a greater collective of the Working Class. we don't need every marginalized group to have their own flag or political advocacy group that can just unilaterally decide to betray the movement. they should be united under a single banner of Socialism and these discussions should be limited to internal discussions within the Party. the civil rights of gays, women, trans people, brown people, black people, white people, etc are already baked into the socialist platform and should be discussed as part of our greater ideology instead of a strategic coalition of marginalized groups. if you're gay and not an ally of the revolution, I have no sympathy for you or your plight, you aren't gonna get me to die protecting your rights, because I'm a communist that wants to advance communism, yknow?
So while Haz is a retard I think there is a genuine fatigue with the performative style of big tent politics that exists in the US. It's like people heard the phrase "virtue signalling" and decided to turn it into their entire political identity for fear someone might accuse them of being bigoted for not being vocal enough in their support for gays. Like, if you aren't a homophobe you shouldn't feel pressured to pander so hard lol, just preach your message wholeheartedly and let people decide if they want to support you or not. Yelling TRANS RIGHTS every time you're in front of a mic just seems disingenuous and performative.
Feel free to call me a faggot or retarded etc I don't really mind. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion on the matter since I don't even know what's "correct" here and am just venting.
>>2802006>that videoWhat in the weeaboo PSYOP hell?
>>2802006>It's not so much that I agree with homophobia on any level but that I'm tired(fatigued?) of how leftism has become synonymous with yelling TRANS RIGHTS, FEMINISM FUCK YEAH, MORE FEMALE CEO'S IN THE BOURGEOISok? that's basically the entire point of this website. we all agree that radlibs and bourgeois idpol suck ass. where haz overcorrects is coining retarded slogans like "MAGA communism," and leaning into "gays are all genetically imperialists" idpol which is the same error as "gays are all genetically progressive allies" in reverse
>>2801997At first I didn't realize that you were referring to the photo I was replying to and I thought you were calling Ness "Mormon Jeffery Epstein" kek
>>2801972I haven't followed that one.
>>2802006>they should be assimilated into a greater collective of the Working Class … they should be united under a single banner of Socialism and these discussions should be limited … and should be discussed as part of our greater ideology I have to point out, though, that you're going pretty heavy on the word "should" here (because people aren't behaving the right way). But Marxist materialism usually tries to explain ideas and politics as emerging from real conditions. Like it gets descriptive more than it gets prescriptive. So it's not clear to me
why people are actually doing something else. I'm not saying you have to agree with every form of identity politics either, and by the way I don't consider myself a member of a marginalized group because I don't think gays are especially marginalized in 2026 in the United States.
>So while Haz is a retard I think there is a genuine fatigue with the performative style of big tent politics that exists in the US.Well he's also doing that performative style of politics except it's to unite the Muslims and conservative Christians with Orthodox Jews with economic populism. He also says communists "should just tolerate" gay people and then try to "channel" them towards revolution. This language of tolerance makes me want to reach for my gun. It reminds me of that South Park episode, "The Death Camp of Tolerance." Actually I think I can make my own decisions and I don't want (nor expect) his "tolerance," because he's not my boss, nor my lord, or my "khan" or whatever he thinks he is.
If I have any advice though, instead of tolerance, it would be better to ground an alternative in a minimum standard of mutual respect or common decency. If he's unwilling to demonstrate respect for others then anyone with a sense of self-respect shouldn't want anything to do with that org.
>>2802006I am a retard and the fact that one of the most popular leftoid subreddits just banned the word retard is just some real shit and it was something that I think that faggot mod made up as well. I don't even post on reddit but seeing that any sort of leftoid opinions get brought up and then you have chuds bring up just how restrictive the left is when it comes to language is honestly some real black pilling shit to me at time. That being said I do think that China is still a bit harsh when it comes to the homo gay topic but that is just me though.
>>2802019Picrel but replace the word "this" with "me marginalizing you"
My phone sucks for editing but I needed you to feel my bigotry and hatred
>>2801879>CPUSAJust join the DSA
>>2802006Does this work? Does saying join le navy makes people join?
>>2802110It works when it's a anime girl doing it.
Here's another one that pretends shes just a military otaku but is just propaganda for the army.
How bad is it for the american ruling class that they have to resort to THIS?
>tfw no midwestern milf
Life is a cruel mistress
State using vtubers is so cringe.
>>2802006>we don't need every marginalized group to have their own flag or political advocacy group that can just unilaterally decide to betray the movementYou know how you achieve that? Not relegating people into second class citizen category. Somehow this argument of yours seems to work only one way, the fact those who deny them equality are spliting the society and sowing disconted never seem to be a point of your criticism. There whould be no LGBT marches or interest groups if there was no LGBT discimination, but of course reactionary anti-LGBT groups would stay. All your social cohesion rhetoric is just a weasly way of expressing support for the latter interest groups.
>>2802152>You know how you achieve thatBy emphasizing class war and not the identity politics spiel you just did
>>2802156I am emphasizing class war, recognising bigots who would slip the working class are the enemies of working class.
>>2802173Sorry but bigots WILL be allowed to join trade unions.
>>2801989>Yes we are bigotsdoes he know the USSR was the first country on earth to de-criminalize homosexuality?
>>2801939>houdini>marxistKek good one
>>2802176No. No they will not.
>>2802192Where is the decriminalized homosexuality now?
>>2802192Not really on purpose though, they recriminalized it a few years later
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