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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


<The War Has Already Cost 1 Million Dollars, Squared, Edition


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💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
• Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
• database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
• list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
• ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
• US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

• 📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
• 📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
• 📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
• 📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
• 📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
• 📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

• Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
• AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
• Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
• IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
• IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
• ▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

• deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
• Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
• Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
• /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
• More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
• Visualization of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
• UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
• First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

• CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
• Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
• Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
• Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

• Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/~~
• Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
• The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
• Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
• Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

• Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
• DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
• Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
• Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

• 📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
• 📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
• 📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
• 📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
• 📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• 📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
• 📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
• 📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
• 📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
• 📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
• 📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Which side are you on? - Pete Seeger

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>>2811406
They had parallel infrastructure to support that policy (a party, organizations, paramilitary), it wasn't just random bullshit go. Accelerationism doesn't work; it leads to fascism, not socialism. Especially if you don't have the institutions and support to back it up.

>>2811400
>the financialized casino economy we have isn’t connected to real life production or logistics
except it's always connected because there's only so many layers you can abstract away economic losses in investment reports and balance sheets before they start materializing in the real world. you can pretend AI isn't a bubble by shuffling the money around but when there's no longer physical product reaching the ports to explain these fake transactions shit will hit the fan real quick.

>>2811411
Just blame it on Muslims and LGBT types doing sabotage, boom, done

>>2811404
The only reason porkies give out treats is under the threat of class struggle. Not once in history was imperialism done for the benefit of prols.

>>2811415
But why would they join a communist party that does that stuff when you yourself said that the vast majority of Americans are "willing and eager collaborators"? If that were true then at the first sign of a militant communist party they would immediately shoot it up because it would threaten their treat supply or whatever.

>>2811415
Destroying the American government is directly against the immediate material interests of America’s proletariat

>>2811420
>Destroying the American government is directly against the immediate material interests of America’s proletariat
How? What would the American proletariat lose by replacing their current government with a Communist one?

>>2811422
The loss of the current government doesn’t guarantee its immediate replacement, the civil war will go on for years even if you had a communist officer’s coup. There are still thousands of proletarians working civil service jobs and as mailmen, the loss of the government means they’re thrown out into the labor market to depress everyone’s wages

>>2811422
>>2811426
And this isn’t mentioning all the families of American proles depending on Medicare, Medicaid, and social security, as long as these programs exist and tens of thousands of proles work in DMV, USPS, and others destroying the government is cutting off your nose to spite your face

>>2811426
you dont have to pay rent during a civil war tho. just shoot your landlord and call him a MAGA. american proles actually have a lot to gain here.

>>2811429
>And this isn’t mentioning all the families of American proles depending on Medicare, Medicaid, and social security
do you think doctors will stop working and treating patients just because the fake health insurance system stops existing?

>>2811431
Yes, doctors in the US are literally health kulaks and they’re the biggest lobbyists keeping us from having any sort of medicare for all let alone an American NHS

>>2811430
Or your landlord can hire goons or get his family to shoot you for “squatting” on his land like is done in the Philippines

>sakaioid ceases to understand the difference between immediate and long term interests because he needs a reason to keep telling himself everyone is a treatler except him

>>2811437
Because immediate interests literally always come first in a western context

>>2811445
So now you’re in the trap of expecting proletarian revolution out of an entirely lumpen and bourgeois society.

>>2811436
So I just join the red guards and get my comrades to help liberate my old apartment complex in a beautiful display of antisemitism.

>>2811434
doctors and nurses associations overwhelmingly endorsed Bernie's M4A plan iirc. it was pharma companies and health insurance companies that lobbied against healthcare reform.

>>2811445
>luxury healthcare programs
>Medicare
I hope you're joking because there's no way you're this retarded

>>2811445
What’s the real difference between a bank teller at a private bank (who is a prole) and the guy at the DMV?

>>2811451
he doesn't know or care. he exists to make you type

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>>2811459
If the proles find out you manufactured the crisis and not the government they’ll turn on you

>>2811462
this, in fact it would be a rally around the flag moment. trump would go on TV, show iron felix's face, be like "THIS COMMIE BENEDICT ARNOLD HAS BEEN DESTROYING OUR BEAUTIFUL REICH" and his approval ratings would triple, just like bush after 9/11

>>2811459
better repost it in the new htread

>>2811386
>the vast majority of Americans are willing and enthusiastic collaborators.
he said the line!

>>2811462
>>2811464
Thirding this, there's a reason why "accelerationism" is almost purely a neo-nazi thing, and you know why that is? It's because by adopting accelerationism as a strategy you are tacitly admitting that nobody sane would support your political faction under the present circumstances, and the only way you can ever take power is by deliberately making everything worse for everyone until you can brutalize people into following you out of fear and for basic necessities.

>>2811409
holy fedpost

>>2809984
>They want you to ignore Communism and instead get defensive over your settler identity. They want you to have no solidarity with proles of other races and instead feel paranoid that you're going to be either lynched by crackkkers or found guilty of being a settleroid at the JDPON tribunal.
well put

>>2810396
Why do people still treat Settlers as a serious text when its origins are so laughably fake?
A bunch of students were sitting around debating 'labor aristocracy' and as if by magic a book that agrees with everything their incel leader said falls into their lap?
And decades later this guy confesses to CIA involvement on his conspiracy blog? While refuting rape accusations?
You would have been fucking deranged to support anything that comes out of this paedo cult.
There is no "J Sakai" and "E Tani" - there is no original copy of "Understanding Babylon" anywhere online because it clearly has the same authors as FNFI and MIMs "A White Proletariat?"
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>>2809984
This.
The goal of Settlers is not to defang the white workers.
The goal of Settlers is to tell Black and Asian workers not to make pragmatic and effective allies like they did in the late 60s.
>it was never about whites
People should look at exactly how Settlers was rewritten from the essays published in the years before it before they judge the intention behind it and the intention of promoting it heavily in the aftermath of the financial crisis and racial unrest.
Ruthless critique, comrades.

>>2820152
The real goal of Settlers is to absolve black and brown Amerikkkans of their willing and gleeful participation in the rape and exploitation of the third world, as though the color of their skin magically makes them less exploitive

Whenever Settlers gets brought up fire back with three points:

Henry Park died an incel conspiracy blogger yapping about rape accusations and his CIA handlers
MIM promotes paedophila
Settlers is clearly not written by a labor organizer in the 1970s but is rewritten from several texts circulating in Harvard and Yale in the early 1980s

Don't get distracted. Work hard and build connections in reality. Read real books.

>>2820159
Read what it is sourced from. Understand the context of "books" like these.
Ask who distributed it and to whom?
Ask who the first recorded copies were first cited by.
Look at what the book actually says and who its intended audience were.
Do not buy the internet manufactured mythology.
Look at other writings by the names that can be concretely connected to it.

The person who used the name "Sakai" in the 90s says that Mein Kampf is more exciting and thrilling than Das Kapital. He writes elsewhere that "class" as a category was "boring" and "not useless" and he never used it sincerely.
Does this sound right to you? Be critical, not paranoid.

The person who runs the Settlers site knows all this. And more. And the readsettlers project existed as a deliberate attempt to obfuscate its origins and present it as a more serious work than it is.
Fact.

>>2820167
where can i dig into the conspiracy behind settlers? this sounds more interesting than the book

Notice he can’t actually argue with the content of settlers so he has to fedjacket the source

>>2820147
why did you bump an 8 day old thread. you have only created confusion

>>2820172
>Notice he can’t actually argue with the content of settlers so he has to fedjacket the source
if settlers is true there is no point in talking about it. you are basically begging your class enemies to defect which is naive and counter productive.

>>2809914
my uncle works for nintendo and he says switch 3 will also be the trumphone, deal with it libs

>>2820171
There is no conspiracy.
Just look at Henry Park and when the collection of essays "Understanding Babylon" became "Settlers"
and then who resurrected it after Park's rape accusation destroyed its reputation.
>>2820172
I am not doing that.
Do you deny that the person using the name "Sakai" went on to say Marxist class analysis was "boring" and useless. And that Mein Kampf was a brilliant literary masterpiece whereas Das Kapital is boring and not worth reading? Or promoted various other conspiracy theories?

Settlers is a hard book to critique because it is basically a satirical history. No one is denying that it is pithy and occasionally funny. However it can't be judged on historical context except on the most naive historicist basis since Sakai's entire argument revolves around interchangeable strong terms like "parasitism" and "exploitation" which do not mean anything strict as they do in Lenin, instead work emotionally. On those who disagree and agree with it.
Are there 'good' parts? Yes.
Is it a serious history book? Of course not.

Come back when you know the full context and history of the text. Not the meme.

>>2820178
That is my intention. People should question more where newly canonical texts emerge from.

>>2820191
>Settlers is a hard book to critique because it is basically a satirical history.
wow so it's misunderstood satire, like Machiavelli's The Prince

>>2820192
we already have gone over it being suspicious thousands of times over the last 13 years of this godforsaken board existing in different forms.

If want a more serious critique - the person who wrote the book and the group that promoted it don't seem to care that its notion of value transference and thus 'superprofits' is incoherent, entirely emotional/intuitive and does not fit with Marxism or Leninism. It doesn't even fit with earlier works on labor aristocracy and unequal exchange, even if it is rephrasing chunks of them in character.
Of course, this befits someone who said Marx was useless and boring. And that we'd be better off reading the "thrilling" Mein Kampf instead.
>>2820195
Unironically, yes. A better comparison would be to Swift. It is confected out of a series of other texts that existed in the years before it. One suspects that if the original copies still existed this would be plainer to see. But conveniently, we only have those distributed by MIM after it was retitled and re-edited.

>>2820196
Yet no one seems to have written a real history of the book's distribution without lunatic "Fed" narratives attached.
As one of the worst examples of 'book worship' in the bourgeois left it is key to understand why this "grotesque mediocrity" of a book in particular is held up to be important above other more accurately communist treatments of the same problem.

>>2820202
It's very useful for black ethno-nationalist (a tragedy but those are in fact, on the "left" simply because it's the only side willing to entertain their delusions) to justify doing nothing, which are a very vocal minority.

>>2820232

As far as an authentically Marxist critique of the material this group distributed would go: focusing on the material's treatment of the ethno-nationalism within one particular group is a mistake.
Particularly because no one involved in it was a "black ethno-nationalist" and the authors tellingly have a very infantalizing (perhaps typically racist, for wealthy and anarchist asian-american students) view of black americans at a level of political and economy agency. Reading MIM and Sakai gives an impression that they think black people are dolls or dummies animated only by identity, fear and violence. Whereas they treat asians as inherently freer and wiser. This is explicit in Park's later writing where his explicitly incel screeds are targeted at 'strong asian males' being cucked by the 'amerikkkan' feminists.
Instead of being lost in the internet reception of Settlers it is it better to look at how it uses the vocabulary of its time to make it seem like Maoist "national struggle" rhetoric means something that it never meant until after Mao's death and its aestheticization into campus politics and games for intellectuals. I agree with you broadly but the problem is the "nationalism" not "ethno" since the "ethno-nationalism" encouraged by the that part of the New Communist Movement was a kind of revisionism that wanted to make other forms of Marxism seem revisionism by playing word games with the idea of a "national" struggle so that it applied all kinds of spurious things. It is no surprise to me at all that at least one of the authors of Settlers is a sincere admirer of both Mein Kampf and the John Birch Society.
All this goes to show why you cannot understand Settlers unless you know the works that it was rewritten from. Because only then can you see how the authors were being highly selective around the issues of colonialism and imperialism as stages of historical development.
Settlers is not one book and never really was. Isolating it as a single scholarly text is part of a hoodwink - rendering it ahistorical and anachronistic. Instead understand that the "labor aristocracy" writing that it was edited from was one continuous stream. And if you understand that by actually tracing the books origins and the origins of its claims you will see exactly how radically the MIM and Sakai version of 'Labor Aristocracy' departed from the concept as used by Lenin. Or alternatively people can trust those also claiming that H. W. Edwards was an English Marxist historian and not an insane, bitter ex-communist woman from a wealthy family in Boston.
The vocal minority of course do not care even a little about understanding the history of the ideas that they spout.
The utility of the book for black ethno-nationalists in particular is more to do with intra-group dynamics and certain individuals wanting to thin their ranks to prevent skeptical voices democratizing the discussions.

The American history presented in Settlers is so insulting to the average black american worker that it works well to keep black nationalist groups small and orientated around individual bullies rather than widening their networks. Read as subtext in Settlers and its related works who the authors thought were capable of meaningful compromise and coalition and who they thought would passively get fucked over each time. Afropessimism is a good label for it because its view of black americans aptitude for economic flexibility is on par with Archie Bunker.

I wonder if that in particular was why the original foreword essay was removed from the book (along with other awkward passages) since to me it is strongly suggestive of a hierarchy of oppressed races with asians at the top and africans at the bottom. The version of 'National Oppression' theory MTW inherited from the NCM should be understood relative to that and not to online arguments from seven years ago.

Outside of the Garveyite delirium - how many times in Settlers does a black person make a choice?

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As someone from the third world, I’ve always been fascinated by American Boomer/Gen-X ‘COMMIE’ hysteria. I get that it’s the product of 50+ years of Cold War propaganda, but it’s still hilarious watching people treat milquetoast demsocs like Zohran or Bernie as if they’re hardened Eastern Bloc revolutionaries. At this point even the half illiterate Islamist in my country probably has a more coherent understanding of Communism than large parts of either the Western right or left

>>2821444
To the vast majority of Americans - including those label themselves as "communists" - communism is a cultural issue about individuality.


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