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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

<ICE crematorium edition

OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/

💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

• ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
• list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
• visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
• Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
• database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
• list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
• ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
• US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

• 📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
• 📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
• 📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
• 📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
• 📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
• 📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

• Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
• AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
• Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
• IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
• IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
• ▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

• deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
• Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
• Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
• /our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
• More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
• Visualization of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
• UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
• First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

• CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
• Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
• Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
• Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

• Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/~~
• Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
• The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
• Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
• Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

• Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
• DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
• Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
• Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

• 📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
• 📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
• 📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
• 📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
• 📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
• 📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
• 📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
• 📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
• 📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
• 📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
• 📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
• 📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
• 📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
• 📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
• 📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

Which side are you on? - Pete Seeger

▶ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XKMwWZVpPE

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If the USA successfully invades and occupies Cuba. Their signature export will go from doctors to child sex slaves. While it seems like such an invasion would be an easy win. Hell I wouldn't be surprise if they just do it to salvage their image as a military power after their humiliation at the hands of Iran. I can't help but hope that they will fuck it up somehow. Or it turns out Cuba has a shitton of Shaheds stored somewhere and they pepper the American southeast with them, inflicting a lot more damage than expected before they go down.

>>2822517
It depends on how soon the bubble around data center construction holds, which is bubble inside of a bubble. The GPUs they’re taking years to install in these data centers are guaranteed to be outdated by the time they’re operational.

>>2822557
Khruschev should have kept the nukes in Cuba

>>2822557
It’s gonna be like Iraq but humid and with mountains, do you know how much worse of a terrain Iraq is for guerrilla warfare than anywhere in Latin America? The US cannot sustain casualties and US attacks only ever create a rally around the flag effect

>>2822560
And invaded Pakistan

>>2822557
Cuba unlike Venezuela has a deep state that is pretty coodinated. If this was any country in Latin America what Cuba was going through the entire government would have had some military coup by a general who sold out to the Americans. Cuba has contingency plans since 1992 after the collapse of the USSR in the event that the USA decides to go another round. Guerilla warfare will be rampant with the population being sympathetic to the guerillas. Not only that but the American capitalist carpetbaggers and the Gusanos flooding in will lead to even further resentment. In short, it will actually backfire and end up like Bay of Pigs 2.0. Ironically Obama was much more dangerous to Cuba and Iran than Trump in terms of strategy to reel them in

>>2822510
>Everyone wants to be the next Lenin
Nobody wants to do that either

>>2822558
The real concern with data centers is overcapacity and there not being enough demand. GPUs being outdated doesn't stop them from working, they're just not efficient as modern chipsets. What's strange with openai is that they don't own any data centers, but lease their from their investors like microsoft, but microsoft is also their competitor because they're building their own products to compete with openais.

>>2822640
I don't think that's true.
I've seen enough communist sectarianism online….. tihs tiktoker named Ash ☭ harassed a Canadian comrade named Millennial Chaos. and all for what? for fucking internet drama views? never ever again I viewed another sh "☭" video.
MC sin? defend the DPRK from blantant lies. her reaction? muh dictator.
like what are you wasting time on that? get a fucking socialist revolution. when you do so, you are allowed to eve sketch the idea of a criticism.
but no, she wants to be Lenin.
and that's everywhere.

>>2822651
the real concern is the destruction of the environment which will make earth even more rapidly unlivable

>>2822659
I was talking about the IPO and an economic bubble with that anon. I literally couldn't give a shit to have a discussion about whatever the fuck you want to talk about while millions are still streaming 4k video of their favorite slop while scrolling tiktok and ordering ubereats which all need data centers to function.

>>2822659
GAN AI is literally not going to be able to cause enough damage because from a software perspective it's going to kill itself before that point.

So what have you done for Communism this week?

>>2822711
Posted 1000 times, read 10 pages of theory

>>2822446
>Pretending this technology cant chance anything is liberal cope.
Pretending this “technology” is the singularity is the liberal cope.

>>2822711
Screamed "Kill yourselves, labor aristocrats!" at random Amerikkkans. I think I made a little girl cry. Serves her settler ass right.

>>2822723
>pretending cottons gins are the singularity is liberal cope

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materialist analysis? why do koreans americans and japanese hate their elderly and leave them to die more compared to europeans and canadians?

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>>2822723

>>2822729
America created Japan and Korea's economies based on its own hyper-capitalist model.

>>2822725
Based Spurdo anon.

>>2822729
Canada looks good on these stats since they kill all their poor pensioners with legalized euthanasia. Same for the Netherlands btw.

>>2822734
and yet in europe pensioners hold the most political power anyway. curious!

>>2822737
The stronger pensioners kill the weaker ones.

>>2822737
The rich pensioners don't feel compelled to commit suicide since they're wealthy, obviously. It's only the poor ones offing themselves. This is one of the factors behind why the pensioner/boomer generation is so reactionary.

>>2822730
It is not the fucking cotton gin, do not give me that bullshit. Stepping stone at best.
>>2822726
Not explicitly

>>2822734
How many have actually been euthanised? Surely not millions. That's how much it would take to go from where USA is to where Canada is.

>>2822744
doesnt exactly explain why rich pensioners have power in europe but not in america or asia where way more are still alive to outvote the young
>>2822747
hes overstating the euthanasia thing

>>2822745
AI and data collection isnt capitalism, its a newer more advanced mode of production. How? Because when my data is appropriated online there are neither profits nor market forces at play. It's a rentier relationship not a wage labor relationship

>>2822754
>AI and data collection isnt capitalism, its a newer more advanced mode of production.

It is neither. “Ai” is nothing more than a product of capitalist delusion and arrogance, a collection of faulty and misunderstood technologies aimed at empowering the bourgeoisie further. They are a modern equivalent of pyramids in my eyes.

Data collection is not a specific technology, is a collection of technologies currently being weaponized against the proletariat, albeit in an incompetent manner.

>Because when my data is appropriated online there are neither profits nor market forces at play

The data market is very much real, just not easily accessible to you.

>It's a rentier relationship not a wage labor relationship
Oh look, a “neo-feudalist” that can’t read. How typical.

>>2822764
>The data market is very much real, just not easily accessible to you.
my point was I have no option of picking or choosing who I can sell my data value to like the choice I have in selling my labor to someone for a wage, there's no labor market like capitalism has. AND theres no wages, therefore, no consumption. try reading marx

>>2822773
>my point was I have no option of picking or choosing who I can sell my data value to like
Irrelevant. Slavery is perfectly compatible with capitalism
>there's no labor market like capitalism has
The destruction of the labor market does not mean departure from the capitalist system.
>AND theres no wages, therefore, no consumption
And therefore have a starving alienated proletariat instead of your desired peasants

>>2822754
That's just a weaker version of Yanis Varoufakis's technofeudalism idea. But wage labor, capital, surplus value, and commodity production define most of the commodity, and definitely the important parts of the economy. Your food isn't being grown or prepared in data centers. Your fridge and microwave weren't made by AI.

>>2822502
so the problem is going away one way or the other, and those who want nuclear war about it are a slim minority of schizos

>>2822782
>Slavery is perfectly compatible with capitalism
no it isn't. read marx
>The destruction of the labor market does not mean departure from the capitalist system
yes it does. read marx
>>2822783
You forget capitalism is a GLOBAL system. There could be 0 capitalist jobs left in america with 350 million data producing peasants and they could all be fed with outside (still capitalist produced) commodities from the outside world pillaged through imperialism

>>2822789
>You forget capitalism is a GLOBAL system. There could be 0 capitalist jobs left in america with 350 million data producing peasants and they could all be fed with outside (still capitalist produced) commodities from the outside world pillaged through imperialism
I didn't "forget" anything. you're not tearing down my point, you're reinforcing it. that proves we're not in a new mode of production, it just proves that commodity production and exploitation of the proletariat take place elsewhere

>>2822789
>no it isn't. read marx
anyone who spams "read marx" but does not have the relevant passage ready probably hasn't read marx. that being said, marx isn't god and that anon is correct. Slavery is perfectly compatible with capitalism. Source? Look the fuck around. North and South America had slavery well into the industrial revolution, with an industrial proletariat and an agrarian slave population often co-existing in the same country. And today, the US prison system is just disguised slavery, since there is still convict labor.

>but the convict labor is paid.

cents per hour. really most people leave prison in debt because in most states they are charged room and board far above what they make as a prison slave. So really they're even worse than a slave. They work in captivity and lose money at the same time. A classic slave has no debt because he has no personhood. The American prison slave can go into debt while working for free.

>>2822795
>capitalism will NEVER take off, how are the peasants gonna feed themselves now without land to grow food??!!?

>>2822797
>capitalist society is actually le SLAVE SOCIETY!!!!
historical materialism has left the chat

>>2822789
>no it isn't
Yes, it is.
>The contract by which he sold his labour-power to the capitalist proved in black and white, so to speak, that he was free to dispose of himself. But when the transaction was concluded, it was discovered that he was no 'free agent', that the period of time for which he is free to sell his labour-power is the period of time for which he forced to sell it
>To say that "the worker has an interest in the rapid growth of capital", means only this: that the more speedily the worker augments the wealth of the capitalist, the larger will be the crumbs which fall to him, the greater will be the number of workers than can be called into existence, the more can the mass of slaves dependent upon capital be increased.

>Growth of productive capital and rise of wages, are they really so indissolubly united as the bourgeois economists maintain? We must not believe their mere words. We dare not believe them even when they claim that the fatter capital is the more will its slave be pampered. The bourgeoisie is too much enlightened, it keeps its accounts much too carefully, to share the prejudices of the feudal lord, who makes an ostentatious display of the magnificence of his retinue. The conditions of existence of the bourgeoisie compel it to attend carefully to its bookkeeping.
>yes it does.
It does not. The rest of the proletariat merely joins the reserve army of labor. Neo Feudalism is not achieved.

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You start out in 2014 by saying, “Wagie, wagie, wagie.” By 2026 you can’t say “wagie”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, outsourcing, automation, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about expanding the reserve army of labor, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, workers get hurt worse than porkies.… “We want to privatize this,” is much more abstract than even the outsourcing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “wagie, wagie.”

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>>2822800
>>2822799
yeah, you're trolling. luckily anyone else can read

>>2822801
>the laborer is compelled to sell his labor therefore capitalism is economically exactly the same as the slave society of ancient rome. if you really think about theres no actual difference between any mode of production, you imbecile, you fucking moron
read marx

>>2822807
That is Marx. And no one said that stupid shit either.

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>>2822372
>"We're going to destroy your lives with AI and you will like it!"
>5 years later
>"What do you mean face the wall?!"

>>2822807
the differences between modes of production really are just how effectively and efficiently they move around chunks of matter rather than a serious difference between wage worker vs a slave.

>>2822372
Unless you start going Hitler mode on these k*kes it's all for nowt

>>2822814
nonsense. the whole of society changes and assumes more advanced forms around the mode of production. what are you trying to say here, that there's no real difference in the life of an american barista and a wheat slave that exists outside of roman society?

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>>2822815
Zionists and Nazis both get the wall, you ain’t slick chudoid


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