https://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/other/uk-weekend-heatwave-forecast-issued-with-temperatures-set-to-hit-32c/ar-AA25T1zM
>Yellow heat health alerts – which mean a greater risk to the lives of vulnerable people and higher demand for health and care services – have been put in place by the UK Health Security Agency across the South East, the East of England, London and the East Midlands until Monday.https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/jun/17/uk-social-media-ban-digital-advertising-snapchat-instagram-youtube
>Brands are expected to cut more than £1bn of digital advertising spending due to the UK’s ban on social media for under-16s, with streaming services tipped to benefit as advertisers try to reach large audiences of teenagers. The ban, due to come into force early next year, will leave UK advertisers scrambling to reassess marketing plans as millions of under-16s effectively disappear as a demographic that can be marketed to on platforms including Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat and YouTube.https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/uk-unemployment-rate-2026-jobs-37312541
>Figures for the UK jobs market show a mixed picture, with the unemployment rate falling to 4.9%, in a boost to the government but it's getting harder to find a jobPrevious thread:
https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2829198.html >>2843618Good and Chinese workers should do the same
>>2843618The youth are always correct.
Britain needs a pro youth party
Fundamentally there must be resource and power transfers from rich old reform voters to young poor green voters.
Sometimes this is anodyne: abolish national insurance and balance it by increasing income tax. Sometimes it is dynamite: planning reform, pension raids, dole/student allowance hikes, but fundamentally this must be the trust of policy over some half hearted everyone wins nonsense.
>>2843618Children should be banned from the internet to protect the adults.
>>2843868We'll see, either way.
>>2843868Sadly, the British government won’t do shit about it. Whether it’s because Westminster are cucks to Silicon Valley, or because the MI5 and much of the British establishment wants a civil war for reasons we don’t know of yet, it’s up to debate.
Anyway, is it me or does anyone have the impression that “BasilTheGreat” is some fake account?
>>2843868It was a migrant
>>2843915local facebook witnesses
>>2843880nah he's a retarded geordie>>2843880
>>2843922>>2843925The links that both of you provided only lead back to the top comment. Could y’all have the courtesy to post screenshots of the comments you were trying to link?
>>2843936>surely the carers should be facing some responsibility for this. would of thought they were legally required to keep them under controlholy fuck, what does he think carers are, guys with electric stun prods there to beat the disabled if they get out of hand?
https://deborahwafoulkes.substack.com/p/building-the-hive-in-a-burning-world-1b2?r=1f2ej0&utm_medium=iosis this kind of person the reason why the left can't gain any traction? dull as dishwater feminist wokescolds who can't even write their own material anymore and have to generate 10 billion words about how every meeting needs to be wrapped up in fucking 'psychological safety training'?
they want to make everything so anodyne and sterile and corpo-flavored.
>>2843955The fact that even the WSWS has a better program for the British left to get behind with says a lot on the current state of our intellectuals.
>>2843955no
depending on your definition, the left either has gained some traction (cf greens, corbynism, bernieism, all the cool people online saying they're socialists and communists) or it has failed for much more boring reasons (complete lack of organisational competence, focus on having a
line over having institutional capacity, love of taking contrarian positions to distance themselves from greens, etc.)
as for the substack post, the images are AI generated so i'd basically dismiss it as archetypal of anything meaningful on the left (where anti-AI hysteria is much more in vogue.) and perhaps of any meaning whatsoever (it goes on to justify its own use of AI in the text, e.g. it's just slop.), although there might be something to be written about the micro-genre of AI-generated leftslop. (one of the Your Party lot got caught doing their own AI-slop substack posts which had meaningless gloop about transcending paradigms etc.)
>>2843997honestly i'd rather tie my wagon to europe than whatever these knuckle-dragging rightoid yank/israeli simps want
>>2843955This is a specific lady that tried to join YORP in Manchester and was apparently running convos through LLMs to generate "insights". Lives in Fucking Germany.
>>2844076Lmao, reminds me of when Your Party activists argued that discriminating against AI arguments was ableist
>>2844078Had someone in "Crips against the Cuts" (need to do a retrospective on that at some,, great example of why flashy MOVEMENTS are shit and boring committee meetings are good) call an AI poster a "disability aid". They got laughed out even by really online disabilitty activists.
>>2844079Fucking impressive these people manage to function given the state of today's society
There's absolutely no declension toward self education and instead the development of a functional dependency with commodity consumption
>>2843999It was always gonna end like this by leaving the EU.
>>2843758I didn't mean it that way, I meant that adults interacting with children just makes them retarded.
>>2844199I disagree. There are so many adults on X’itter and 4cuck being such massive retards (besides bots, obviously) that it wouldn’t make a difference whether they talked to actual children or not in terms of affecting their intelligence.
Like no offence, but age doesn’t prevent you from being a dumbass, especially given how material conditions have made it such that childhood has been prolonged by the same “protect the kids”-type Karens, effectively leading to the infantilisation of young adults too.
>>2844107If you are shocked by this result, you are terminally online.
Smoothest ride to 10 I ever seen.
I think Burnham will play ball with the Greens and lead a minority government next election.
>>2843999i find myself with a very contrived position on europe
we probably fucked up by not getting in at the start, but we definitely fucked up by joining in 1972 and by not leaving in 1975, but leaving
in 2016 was a mistake, even though dominic cummings was right that the EU is basically a dysfunctional organisation that will drag britain down with it,
because britain is itself so dysfunctional that the EU mitigates our domestic dysfunction rather than limiting our aspirations (as his own plans for britain as the university of the world completely and utterly flopping demonstrate),
and the people who wanted to leave (both voters and high-level politicians) are on the whole so horrible that we should rejoin just to put them in their place even though it won't undo most of the damage that leaving caused.
>>2844107his popularity has been dropping even before the byelection lol
surprising flop for reform though, the most optimistic labour estimates i was hearing were that they'd only get in because restore split the vote.
>>2844202unless he was lying the whole byelection campaign by u-turning on everything and promising starmerism without starmer, he'll drop on the deck and flop like a fish. the funniest outcome remains him losing the leadership election to starmer.
>>2844221Would have been funnier if you said he was being appointed governor general on location, indefinitely
>>2844208I love the concept of Nordic aliens. Really says everything you need to know about White people. They see themselves as having the same relationship to humanity and this planet as fucking as freaky ETs and lizard people from outer space.
Maybe the Nordic aliens just chose to disguise themselves as White people because they knew that White people were the people who would side with alien invaders just because they look White.
>>2844224The first account of Nordic aliens was by black people…
>>2844228I got confused, sorry.
I think what's funny is that there are also suppoeed Afro-centric alien encounters following from the original Nordic claim. Clearly, the vast bounds of the unknown are still political in nature.
We need an America A (Lisa Simpson) / America B (Trump cult) theory but for Britain.
Our class caste system is sort of parallel but it's a poor fit for the modern world where being normal has become middle class coded no matter your actual economic position.
I'm not sure geography is a good fit either since we don't split elegantly into costal elites / inland hicks as the US does. there's a cheap temptation to split it into London/not London to show off how working class you are, but that's just playing games instead of trying to explain anything real.
Government has announced they're going to make "further statements" in July about the possibility of banning VPN usage.
>>2844281He's the leader of the Recyclons from the planet Sigma IX.
He also said he'd be happy with 1 vote but he got 95.
>>2844293How did Britain become so over-censored?
Isn't our whole thing supposed to be about liberty? Even the yanks are introducing censorious laws.
>>2844403Always has been, but people were fine when it was Irish republicans who got censored.
They had to get actors to repeat what Gerry Adams said , because his voice couldn't be heard.
>>2844408>Always has been, but people were fine when it was Irish republicans who got censored.Even today. Note how all the big lefties and campaign groups have rallied behind the Palestine Action campaign, but when it is brown migrants in which the politics may seem more murky, such as in the Kurdish Community Centre trial, they are all silent, the story doesn't get touched by the lefty media, Novara, Double Down News, etc. etc.
<vidrelMissed a trick in posting, anon.
>>2844474
People think Saladin faught for Islam, but actually he wanted to create Israel !!!
owen jones status?
>>2844448That's cause tankies hate kurds
>>2844474
Shut up
>>2844474
Legitimate retard.
>>2844527>That's cause tankies hate kurdsDont think Novara Media nor Double Down News, the two examples i used, are 'Tankies', anon.
When i said nobody is paying attention to this i do mean nobody, aside Declassified and Morning Star. The usual suspects activist types too, even though it will directly affect them.
zultana achievements?
>>2844553Novara is anti-communist scum
>>2844541have you started the ppw in the woods of kernow you maoist butcher of nepalese youth?
>>2844559>Novara is anti-communist scumNot sure why you're telling me that, but okay. whatever you say mate. 👍
>>2844513booo boring !!!
Real question is
"How will the triumph of count Binface change the policies of the Loony monster party?"
>>2844602They have entered a period of deep reflection where they will return to their constituents and figure out who they really are as a party in order to fully commit to our shared values.
>>2844448To be fair Novara covered the initial protests but yeah.
https://novaramedia.com/2024/11/27/metropolitan-police-put-kurdish-community-centre-under-siege/As someone who works with the kurdish community its mad how hostile the left are to them despite having literally sent volunteers to fight with them just a decade ago. Coming across zoomers who dont know shit is fine a lot of them dont even know who ISIS are but it is maddening when people in keffiyahs slur fucking turkish speaking speaking and kurdish marxists as zionists because of their ethnicity.
>>2844621>its mad how hostile the left are to them despite having literally sent volunteers to fight with them just a decade ago. All me btw.
Truthfully, I don't think the left has any need to get involved in every single ethno-nationalist dispute under the sun. That's a good grift tho, just make some vague allusions about how you're going to make a confederalized libertarian decentralized anarcho commune once you get your ethnostate or whatever and then every Westerner will sign up to die for you. I'm fucking glad that era of "the left" seems to be drawing to an end.
How come the left never sends volunteers to fight Israel anywhere? Curious.
The story gets worse:
>A man arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a three-year-old boy ended up in a crocodile enclosure has been released because he is not fit to be interviewed, police have said. The 30-year-old man from Norfolk has been bailed while detectives from the major crimes unit conduct further inquiries, Cambridgeshire police said.https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/jun/19/man-released-police-boy-three-zoo-crocodile-enclosure-cambridgeshire>>2844627>How come the left never sends volunteers to fight Israel anywhere?Easy, I am not a nationalist.
>>2844627>How come the left never sends volunteers to fight Israel anywhere?Not gonna fight for islamism lil bro
>>2844654>Funny how you guys are arguing against the point I posited from the beginning in that post.Meant arguing the same point* and then presenting it like a disagreement.
>>2844678
Article says there are 200 MPs ready to sign a leadership challenge if he does
>>2844693
He can't, the PLP will rebel if he tries
>>2844701
The party rebels and their Parliamentary majority becomes ungovernable forcing a no confidence vote
>>2844654>Even if the resistance to Israel was 100% communists no Westerner would go fight for themNice fanfiction. Keep being mad at ghosts!
>>2844733I'm not mad at anything. You're taking it really personal and trying to make it about Islam for some reason when that had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
While Starmer wants to scrutinise foreign donations to British candidates, I think if Starmer was serious about this then he should also check on the ad revenues made from farming likes and views on X’itter, especially as it’s owned by the world’s richest man who has expressed the desire to subvert British sovereignty in a way more violating than Soros did in Eastern Europe, and keep in mind that Musk has already donated to and publicly endorsed candidates like Lowe whilst astroturfing his tweets. But to be fair to poor Soros, he is less of an agent than a puppet of the British and American intelligences who relied on the Gelen network as conduit.
>>2844654Am I right in understanding that support for the PFLP is still totally legal, unlike Hamas and Hezbollah?
Kinda surprised Herr Starmer hasn't outlawed support for all commie groups globally…
>>2844627> in every single ethno-nationalist dispute under the sun.Okay and the kurdish marxists organising workers in London? You gonna engage with them or suck yourself off?
>>2844627>I don't think the left has any need to get involved in every single ethno-nationalist dispute under the sun.I don't think comunists should participate in ghost fights at all
>>2844513>count binface 0.2%one day binface one day
>>2844627>its mad how hostile the left are to them despite having literally sent volunteers to fight with them just a decade ago. TBH i've only ever encounter support IRL, which is what makes it all the more strange, like a lot of these people almost certainly at least know people with intimate knowledge of the situation and with the kurdish struggle more generally. Like, it's hard IMHO to be a british leftist and not at least know a rojava volunteer or local politically active kurds.
>Coming across zoomers who dont know shit is fine a lot of them dont even know who ISIS areOnline i think this is a big part of it. Like, you hear these children say that the YPD should not have taken coalition support, yet i have never had one one pressed be able to offer a coherent idea of what should have been done, always betraying a complete ignorance to the facts of 2014 Syria, despite there being plenty of writing and video on the issue.
>>2844654>the people who do this int brigade LARP want to do their tour and then come home and live the rest of their life back in the WestPlenty stayed in NE Syria.
THOUGH. I really hope the whole island doesn't start fellating andy burnham as if he isn't going to do the same labourite shit they all do.
Burnham is a paper tiger. He's not even in yet and the left are already starting to cancel him because of nothing. This WILL pass. Burnham will limp on to the next general election being eaten alive by the left and then finished off by Reform.
>>2844906he is a zionist, he supported the invasion in Iraq, and honestly fuck every single labour politician if they haven't left it by now they are the enemy.
>>2844905>>2844908>>2844906He’s going to poll worse than Starmer in about six months give or take
>>2844908>>2844909Correct. Though, why was Jeremy Corbyn praising him in the past? Maybe Zarah Sultana can win. Oops, she joined the Labour Party AFTER its disastrous war in Iraq. Face it, you can't vote for anyone without being a moral monster, but you also can't revolution. The only option for the left is counter intuitively to vote for Reform or Retore for accelerationism.
>>2844911The only option left if you are in England is to actually make a revolutionary party there rather than fucking around. Look at Red Wessex they seem like they're doing positive things, so why aren't you following their lead?
>>2844912We have revolutionary parties. Many of them even get invited to go dine with your idol Kim Jong Un. None of them do jack shit and they never will. The fact is, Communists are an irrational group. There's nothing you can do (or that they can do) to please them.
>>2844913There’s never going to be a big enough crisis in any first world country that would spur the population into outright abandoning their comforts and starting a civil war. The capitalist class figured out how to never allow a crisis to get as deep or as bad as middle Europe in 1917-22.
>>2844913Kim Jong Un is not my idol lol. Anyway it's too late for me to be arguing with this horseshit.
>>2844914We aren't going to be a first world country anymore. Its all over.
We failed. We imported the third world and now we are the third world, there's like 60 ethnicities all battling it out on the streets over random bullshit in India and East Timur.
China on the other hand, an actual socialist system, banned immigrants from day one. They will eventually take Taiwan and then their submarines will dominate the world, cutting off the weal effeminate "west", sending it back to the dark ages where it belongs. Then al the immigrants we committed suicide for will dump us and move on.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) >>2844918Why doesn’t import the third world apply to sugar or oil or any other resource in treatlerland? Why only people?
>>2844932As if Thirdy peasants would be producing any of this crap if it wasn't for first world industrial workers. Also, sugar and oil aren't Human beings.
Starmer vowing to fight a leadership election despite facing overwhelming defeat
>>2844654good ol pflp aura farmers
>>2844912>>2844905>>2844908answer my question you maoist scum.
have YOU started a ppw in kernow or wales?
you are here routinely shitting on communists around the world for 'selling out', for not giving enough blood to the movement.
But what do YOU do?
You live the comfortable crackker life in old britain. You start the armed struggle for once you maoist creature and i will critcise at my ease
you killed thousands of nepalese, philipino, indian communists and you are still not satisfied
you sado-mazo scum fuck you
>>2845065All in good time
>>2845121i wish you all the best comrade
>>2845065maoists in the USA are way more unhinged the the UK maoists.
a civil war isn't necessary or desirable. (how'd that go for the socialists and communists of yugoslavia?)
communists and socialists would do better to look at the rise of the SNP and to a lesser extent greens for a lesson in how not to be completely useless fucking pricks. (because both demonstrate that niche causes can become popular if you keep diligently plugging away at them and aren't totally useless cretins who justify failure rather than trying to improve.) the primary lesson to draw from real revolutionary communists is that idealism cannot outpace the development of productive forces. fundamentally, whether you're elected or revolt, you're going to find yourself juggling economic management until the productive forces are sufficiently developed for a new mode of production.
>>2844918britain's failure has nothing to do with immigration. all of europe + the US "imported the third world" to varying degrees, but britain has fallen far below them. china has 1/5 of the entire planet living there, it is a completely moronic comparator for britain. vietnam and cuba both have net emigration because they're poor. (if only some of their communists would move here and replace our tedious native ones…)
>>2845141True. Economists have complained about underinvestment since the 1980s, lack of housing has always been a perennial issue, the north-south divide preceded the Brexitwave, productivity has been low since the 2008 financial crisis and arguably before, and infrastructure (like in ALL Europe) has been degrading for a long term.
And obviously, the situations of China, Vietnam and Cuba are too different to be compared to Britain. If we’re going to cross-check notes, we should use France, Germany, Australia, the USA, Canada and the Netherlands as comparisons.
Immigration isn’t inconsequential, but it’s also not the top reasons for many of Britain’s ailing as many of the issues the bongs have with their island long preceded the immigration surge attributed to Boris and Blair, or owe more to other factors besides immigration (such as Thatcher’s policies and the 2008 financial crisis).
Brexit is also to blame since many of the predictions made by the remainers occurred. Blame Boris all you want, but it’s just a fact that many of Britain’s sectors (e.g., the NHS, agriculture, hospitality, healthcare, etc…) would have collapsed or be under severe strain due to the labour shortages caused by Brexit. And if we’re wanted the low-skill cheap Eastern European labour over the high-skill cheap non-EU labour, then what was the fucking point of Brexit to begin with if nothing changed besides poverty affecting even the big cities of Britain as opposed to being externalised to the rural areas and small towns like before?
Also, I don’t buy into accelerationism because as we’ve seen time and time again across time and space, the average normie will adapt to the worst of the worst before they commence into revolution, and even then the likelihood of things getting worst is greater than that of things getting better.
To see what I mean, just look at the movie “Civil War”. In the story, a civil war is ravaging the USA, but there are still pockets of peace where normies live life like normal even as there’s a civil war in their country. And you know what? That’s actually realistic because, let’s face it, all revolutions in history have occurred at the hands of a minority, not the majority who only follow the minority later on.
After all, it’s doubtful that the French Revolution could have succeeded and be consolidated in the following years without the leadership of Rospbierre, Bonaparte, Massena, Philippe and Barras.
Burhnam save us.
Communists would do better if they realised that Gorbachev wasn't a traitor. He was a comically committed Leninist and he got most of his worst ideas (like basically everything that fanned nationalism) from reading Lenin.
This doesn't tell us anything about Lenin, who had been dead for decades, but it does tell you where LARPing as Lenin will take you.
>>2845193And you've posted this in the British thread why?
>>2845195Prolly due to Lenin learning English from a Scottish dude, which led to Lenin acquiring a Scottish accent when speaking in English.
>>2845198Keep posts on topic
>>2845195Brits have the worst communists in the world and so have the most to learn
>>2845201Not from you they don't
>>2845201big, if true, considering countries like cambodia or peru lol
>>2845198Was it not irish?
>>2845358Wonder who or what this will be blamed on. What's it looking like atm?
Burnham's policies are identical to Starmer's.
He's a zioliberal who loves Israel and capitalism, threw trans people under the bus at the first opportunity, pro big business and capital, pro-austerity, pro internet censorship, pro digital IDs, pro oil, pro war, etc etc
But like, it's totally better guys! Because everyone from the Guardian to Novara says so, and he's more charismatic, and he's northern!
>>2845366The Morning Star is the paper of the CPB, an anti-trans social reactionary club of social democratic / liberal boomers who in reality still vote for Labour.
It's worth treating anything they publish with the same significance as toilet paper.
Something needs to be done about how a coalition of anti-progressive activists and economic Starmerites have been able to co-opt the "Communist" label on this island.
I wouldn't be surprised if government agents within "Communist" groups are in part the ones responsible for doing it either.
>>2845366LOL “sex-based rights” is always a dog whistle for transphobia. Like, there’s nothing in trans rights that is inherently anti-woman unless you subconsciously think of women as the Borg class while transwomen as the prole, which is how one can make sense of TERFs: Their transphobia is rooted in misandry wherein they see the trans identity as a cheat code for prole men to get into the gated community of womanhood.
Honestly, this says a lot more about TERFs, most of whom are middle-to-upper class white British women with a niche topic they are vocal about, than it says about trans people per se.
Because for once, this extreme naturalist stance from nominal leftists is weird they wouldn’t adopt it for lesbians despite the fact that many of the secular arguments for both transphobia and homophobia greatly overlap, and secondly we’ve yet to get an explanation as to how trans rights undermines women at all.
>>2845371>I wouldn't be surprised if government agents within "Communist" groups are in part the ones responsible for doing it either.Perhaps since most politics has glowies involved in one form or another. And I would be suspicious for the British intelligence since they are so competent compared to the CIA that they barely feature in most conspiracy theories. In fact, the existence of the MI6 wasn’t confirmed by the British government until 1994.
>>2845362There are already loaded questions as to who the driver was
>>2845391Paul Joseph Watson lmao
>>2845409Hasn't aged a day, to be fair.
>>2845386>There are already loaded questions as to who the driver wasAnything but fund cuts and privatization, i'm sure.
>>2845204None have managed to be as lame and pointless as the CPB. There is not one communist party on the planet that is less pointless or less embarrassing
>>2845447Philippines Communist Party 1930
>>2845450Speaking of there's such little talk of the NPA on this site given they're likely the most significant communist insurgency in the world today
>>2845391He sees that the future of fascism is in the EU, not in the US
>>2845478And there’s less than 1000 active NPA fighters in a country that still has the colonial hacienda system, what does that tell you about the world and anyone calling on you and your friends to pick up guns and overthrow the government?
>>2845447Well to be fair the CPB is outdone in lameness by the CPGB-ML
>>2845496Marching with Stalin portraits makes them better than CPB, if they dropped the hatred of sexual minorities they’d have the perfect politics
>>2845494>You only have 1000 active militants fighting at any given time!>Look, it's hopeless, give up!The NPA has survived for decades and isn't collapsing any time soon.
The global situation may be utterly dire but you'll have to try harder than that to demoralise me, glowie
You see, the material conditions dictate that eventually capitalism will collapse. And the harder capitalism and fascism accelerates, the sooner that time will come.
>>2845366Leftist geriatrics that got troll's remorse over their generations misoginy and homophobia try to launder their collective sins through telos-lacking left-transphobia episode #1999
But also, what rights don't women have? It got to the point where you cannot discriminate against women in any capacity even when it makes sense to do so. "Womens Rights" and "Gay Rights" have become some kind of precolumbian mesoamerican secular deity in the Anglosphere where you can justify any anti-social or economicaly unsound behavior by invoking it and designating a scapegoat (here trans) that commit heresy against said rights/deity.
>"We have to stab 16 year old transgenders in the heart because otherwise it makes NAMBLA and venus of willendorfs very sad or wathever…"It sound like those insane deep green resistance people that think cracking atoms make Gaia cry therefore nuclear plant is radical misoginy.
>>2845371I don't think war over ownership of political labels is interesting or relevant in 2026. Especially for hoe-scaring ideologies like communism which have been deemed nazism-light since the gulag archipelago anyway.
Remember when the liberal media was publishing articles stating "In the DPRK you have a state mandated list of haircuts and get gulaged for having the wrong hairstyles!" which as always turned out to be totally fabricated bs.
Meanwhile the CPGB-ML does, in fact, literally have party mandated haircuts.
>>2845510Communism will be reached by technological development, not through orgasmic rupture that gets recuperated anyway
>>2845508All that is undermined by their full throttle support for Dengism and propping up "the people's landlords" much like the ACP does
>>2845521You don’t have a positive alternative to dengism
>>2845523I do. It's called Communism.
>>2845526Point to it on a map
>>2845526Communism didn’t lift anyone out of poverty, Dengism lifted 800 million out of poverty
(Bait used to be believable) >>2845528You do realise that ideologies that are yet to be put into practice can exist, right?
Are we being raided by anti-communists or MI5 o algo? Wtf is going on???
>>2845531That’s called idealism, if your ideology isn’t being implemented it doesn’t exist
>>2845533>Idealism is when something hasn't happened yetGo back to clown school with this shit please glowoid
>>2845532Not everyone who disagree with you or post something stupid is some kind of scary blacked wojak glowie gangstalking you personally and you should work on your BPD
>>2845535>You are NOT being gangstalked. Do not be alarmed.Thanks for this reassurance anon.
>>2845496Nah they're at least funny, wondering why women don't show up at their conferences in a symposium on "the reactionary nightmare of gender fluidity" has a comedy element that's absent from the CPB's tedious calls for everyone to honour the supreme court.
>>2845628I'll believe it when I see it.
>>2845628Hard to care, it only gets progressively worse, dont it.
>>2845634WSWS are reporting that Burnham will actually slash welfare spending to fund the defence shortfall
With the collapse of the MoU between Iran and America the global economy risks entering a formal recession. God knows how Burnham will cope when the simmering tensions that have led to Reforms success when his political economic management enters a period of downturn.
>>2845413It's like he's stuck in 2018
>>2845641Wouldn't surprise me at all, the papers have been running non stop filth blaming the disabled for our imminent invasion by Russia for months
>>2845667Nobody ever walks into parliament or no.10 and becomes more left-wing.
>>2845667we were told that sir kier was to the left of blair but he went hard to the right so i believe he will be more right wing than sir kier
>>2845667>Work placements for all 16-18-year-oldsPolicy made of air, likewise his reindustrialisation strategy which will revolve around unworkable private grants and subsidies which will struggle to encourage growth during his term
>>2845672lol thats not real
>>2845667I have heard about reindustrialisation coming soon since i was a toddler 💔
>>2845667To the right. He's a careerist slimeball and (infinitely worse) a moron. The real Burnham came out on the by-election campaign when he suddenly morphed into Starmer and all his warm economic words mean fuck all when he's keeping Rachel from accounts.
Who tbf I will give begrudging credit for keeping us out of Iran. "No money for war" is the only good time to have an austerity chancellor… But now Burnham wants money for war!! >>2845674according to this tweet it is, but this tweet might also be fake
https://x.com/BasilTheGreat/status/2047419337586184593Honestly at this point I wouldn't be surprised this point if it was because the international fascist movement has no consistency anymore.
>>2845682<According to 'Basil The Great' on twitterPlease leave.
>>2845672this looks like AI
>>2845682it might be fake. some rightoids in the election drove around with a muslims 4 reform van. and others were making fake reform ads with pictures of muslims and hindus.
Honestly lots can be said about woke-ultras but aside from crime and being uncharismatic they were correct about most things. The gigabased leftist bit lead absolutely nowhere and leave no heritage.
>>2845762>nafoobsessed, but also all of the guys making this shit are the types that would post here
are the rightoids blaming the train crash on the boats?
>>2846077>250,000Nah, its closer to a million mate…
<on May 14, 2019, Pearson repeated the claim [of 250,000] […] I say that because, if you take the accepted figure of 1,400 victims in Rotherham alone and extend it across the country, you come to a much larger figure. Indeed, Rotherham's MP, the courageous Sarah Champion, has put the figure at 1 million… It is still going on.https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/fact-check-figure-250-000-033107912.html?guccounter=1Better yet, 10 million. 1/3 girls in the UK will be raped by a muslim!!!
Fuck it. 30 million.
>>2846085Fuck it, 60 million
An entire country raped and nobody knew
How is islam relevant to rape? Do you say the shahada and somehow it hurts more?
>>2846084>>2846089Bong chuds be like rn atm:
>RAPE (•∞)Or
<GANGRAPE (•∞)Makes you wonder if chuds aren’t just another variety of shitlib, or at least so deracinated that they end up reconstructing the very shit they used to make fun of. Remember how many MAGApedes turned into unironic Karens out of pure spite over Charlie Kirk memes back when that his death was still viral?
Yh, the chuds since then have completely discredited themselves.
“Anti-woke” has really turned into woke 2.0
>>2846163It's because the basic contours of a technology shape behaviour more than the specifics. Social media makes everyone and everything woke, the question is just whether you're a woke lefty/liberal type hysterical about evil in the world, or a woke rightist upset that you can't even do the holocaust anymore without someone getting offended.
>>2846202The term itself is an ideological fixation which obscures the technical relations of production and ensuing social development
There is no such thing as 'woke'; it's a social signifier used in the unreflexive propagandising of class positions.
>>2846256I would argue that James Lindsay's reversal of "woke" to apply to the "woke right" universalises the signifier as referring to the hysterical and censorious attitudes of those in power. When the liberals have power in the US, you get the woke left; with Trump, you get the woke right. It has sociological value.
>>2846263It has sociological value but not in itself, the word embodies its own contradiction. There is no Marxist understanding of 'woke' except as the result of material processes within capitalist society. To say nothing that the left/right distinction is completely an uncritical acceptance of bourgeois dogmatism
>>2846276>within capitalist societyWhy would it have to be limited to capitalist society?
Such pseudo-historians as James Lindsay or TIKHistory attempt to trace the history of "woke" back to antiquity. We see examples of "vurtue signalling" in the gospels and artistic censorship in Plato, for example - but I feel that Richard Hanania is most incisive on this point; that "woke" is lawfare based upon the original architecture of the US Civil Rights Act, which overtime has expanded itself. The contradiction regards the status of the freedom of association, and so is a liberal (e.g. individualist) issue, not a class issue, as in the Marxist case. Alternative theorists such as James Burnham could point at the rise of the PMC for class analysis (e.g. woke as a tactic to promote oneself in a corporate hierarchy), but this I find more spurious.
>>2846297Everything you've written just confirms the point that it's bourgeois obscurantism used to propagandise class positions
It has no value in and of itself, stop using it. It is deeply unscientific
>>2846298>UnscientificPlease offer the scientific explanation, then.
>>2846301I'm not even going to bother, it explains nothing of class society and is a pejorative used in the designation of at most consumer trends
There is no 'woke' explanation of society. The fact that you believe in a left/right distinction in this matter is indicative of the ridiculousness of it. It is at best a landmark in the designation of a shift in the development of the productive relations within capitalist history over say the past ten to twenty years.
>>2846307>You are wrong<Why? Explain.>I can't explain whyIf you have nothing to say, please don't reply in future.
>>2846310I said I can't be bothered to explain
If you want to go around parroting Facebook boomer tier arguments of the world be my guest, just don't expect everyone to agree with you. Likewise if you can't understand that as a term it is the result of recent developments in consumption habits then you're a gullible moron
>>2846312You can be bothered to endlessly reply to me with substanceless sentences, but can't be bothered to make an intellectual counter-point. So keep replying and pretending that your time is precious, anyway. 🥱
>>2846297PMC don't exist, so the analysis falls
>>2846319Fuck off and read Marx you dunce and don't bore us with your favourite youtuber's buzzwords
>>2846256You're not necessarily wrong but at the same time you know vaguely what I mean when I use the ostensibly meaningless floating signifier of "woke"
>>2846307If I am honest, class based explanations at the level of a cultural phenomenon like this are trite and obscure more than they explain. If you want to explain Pokémania, you're probably on the wrong course if you open with the division between proletarians and bourgeois.
>>2846321I claimed to not believe in PMC theory - please learn to read.
>>2846322Keep replying even though you "can't be bothered" to reply to me. 👍
>>2846323It isn't Pokemanka though; it's a term indicative of historical changes in productive relations and the continuing centralisation of social relations within capitalist society. The term can be used to meaningfully chart technological changes and intra class conflict with the bourgeoisie, which is what this cretin doesn't understand
>>2846323Also it's such a common adage for contemporary explanations of woke that reference is always made to 'you know what I mean' tier arguments
The period has yet to undergo analysis for why epiphenomenon and changes in aesthetic consumption mixed with the integration of social media have led to the result that 'woke' embodies such a broad panoptic vision of society. Real scientific historical analysis of the changes within capitalist society of the past twenty years would reveal something significant beyond blatant sophism of 'woke has existed for centuries'
>>2846329It clearly is; the term is used to denote partisan attitudes towards corporatist management strategies utilised by the rich and wealthy and can be used to observe counter cultural reactions in the early 2010s
How do you explain Trump otherwise
>>2846329It's ridiculous that you believe in a left/right division of capitalist society and yet refuse to submit to a class perspective
Fuck off back to /pol/
>"Uhhhhh actually woke's existed since the Romans"
>"Jesus was woke"
These and other tales from leftypol
>>2846331>the term is used to denote partisan attitudesThat's what I alreary wrote:
>>2846263<the signifier as referring to the hysterical and censorious attitudes of those in power.>How do you explain Trump otherwiseTrump got in power on the back of disaffected Bernie supporters; it was a subversion of leftist populism.
>>2846332You need to calm down.
You write like an American. Also, have you finally managed to become bothered?
>>2846334Nietzsche already gave that hot take
>>2846330>'you know what I mean' tier argumentsIts called implicit knowledge; autists often fail to grasp subtext.
>>2846337You essentialise political splits in the superstructure and retroproject them onto history as if meaningfully significant
Again, fuck off and read Marx. There is no 'woke' understanding of society; this is an uncritical acceptance of bourgeois dogmatism used to propagandise its own class position.
>>2846341If you can't state the premise it has no worth for historical conjecture
Sub 100 autism score midwits fail to understand this
>>2846342What is the political split? You deny there's such a thing as left and right woke, so what is the civil war of the bourgeoisie about?
>>2846343>If you can't state the premiseAren't you the person who "can't be bothered" to present a premise?
>>2846330I think McLuhan offers us more than Marx on this question.
>>2846340>>2846334It's a common take in "neopagan" RW communities and NrXfags also and it is completely delusional. Absolutely eye rolling "take".
>>2846347NRx doesn't exist anymore - Curtis Yarvin is just a MAGAtard zionist now, like the entire tech right.
>>2846344Literally an intra class conflict manifest in a dueling elite between two sections of the bourgeoisie; there is no meaningful distinction between the left and right wing of capital. Both are factions of a political caste who uphold class domination within capitalist society, this is a foundational premise compared to viewing the entirety of society as fractured along a blatantly ideological division
>>2846345There's a difference between failing to accept an unstated subjective premise and not bothering to explain to some moron why their Facebook politic is horseshit because you're on an £80 smartphone
>>2846348It's because there is no real RW subcultures as much as they rant about having super different opinions they all have Matt Walsh's politics at the end of the day.
>>2846347>NeopaganismChuckled, entirely forgot that was a thing
>>2846349>Literally an intra class conflict manifest in a dueling elite between two sections of the bourgeoisie; there is no meaningful distinction between the left and right wing of capital. So what are the factions? Who are the players? I say its left versus right, but you offer no alternative.
>still cant be botheredThen why are you still replying? Just log off.
>because you're on an £80 smartphoneLiterally shaming me for being poor - I thought you were a "Marxist"??
>>2846350Unfortunately, both the left and right are caught up in the post-war frame, so all RW redpills just move toward the boring conclusion that "Hitler was right about everything". Until I hear a right-winger admit that Hitler was cringe, they will fall for the same mediocrity.
>>2846353>So what are the factions?This is why I cannot be bothered to type out a retrospective for you that would take half an hour of the rise of Trump at the time of changes in the technological and technical basis of capitalist social relations
This is class society. If you wish to read more about it, abandon your YouTuber tier arguments and pick up a pamphlet from a British communist party on the current state of wealth divisions. The WSWS regularly run pieces explaining this, and have an article here:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/12/gqqq-j12.html >"Nooooooo you can't post the funny trots"
t. Listens to James Lindsay
>>2846358>so all RW redpills just move toward the boring conclusion that "Hitler was right about everything"This is just a posture though, as they are just generic paleocons like Matt Walsh at the end of the day. Even seemingly ubiquitous figures BAP: It is all Matt Walsh.
>>2846361It's been over an hour since you've claimed to not be able to be bothered to explain btw.
>>2845987You never cater to racist subhumans.
>>2846370I'll take the time to respond to blatantly false posts, not spoon-feed you on a phone that can't run Tetris
>>2846369>1,400 victims in Rotherham (over a period of ~20 years) means 1 million victims across the UK This is pure conjecture - we are mocking the desparation to spread panic.
>>2846373>>2846370What's hilarious is that this was an in vogue argument ten years ago when critical commentators in socialist circles rushed to explain the bourgeois factionalism of Trump
That someone here believes in a messianic social divide between left and right is ridiculous
>>2846369No, it's like SJWs blaming all men. But repackaged to all browns and my white woman who are property.
They talked about 6 million young girl groyped but the real number was closer to 350k
>>2846373>This is false<Why?>Can't be bothered to explain why.(60 mins later, repeat)
>>2846369>hate to say it but i actually believe victimsThey are extrapolating data points. You are believing Excel propaganda
>>2846378Again, read
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/12/gqqq-j12.htmlOr any other parties pamphlet on the division of wealth within contemporary capitalist society. If you wish to be spoonfed boomer tier narratives fuck off to /pol/ where you belong
>>2846382Does the article discuss the origins and expansion of political correctness (i.e. "woke"), the current topic of discussion? Does the article discuss a hidden war of billionaire against billionaire? The hypothesis you suggested for the origin of political correctness?
>Excuse me, why will you as a fellow communist not explain to me the complexity of historical relations in the 21sf century in a six inch touchscreen
>>2846384Unironically yes, read it you fucking moron
>>2846384>>2846387You asked ultimately for an explanation of current factional developments within capitalist society, that argument does just that
Again fuck off to Lindsay if you wish to hear more messianic "left vs right" bourgeois sophism
>>2846384If you wish for an explicit argument on "woke" read the WSWS' 1619 polemic
It was their response to the academic perversion of pro-racialisf narratives which directly transponds to the development of "woke" politics
I still go for a variant of Hanania's theory that social media + demagogues got idiots who used to ignore politics for being boring into politics, hence the rise of the reactionary right (meanwhile smart people who read became "woke" or communist because of similar technological changes, but manifested through education and intelligence bringing out man's better nature rather than his worst.)
You can paint over parts of it with class interests, particularly to explain the backlash to "wokeness" as corporations realised they weren't going to buy off the left/libs with token gestures in the long run, but most of the dynamic runs against those interests. Trumpism is the governance of open mendacious stupidity which runs contrary to the interests of the bourgeoise as a whole. Britain, as a whole, is a miserable little reactionary shithole in part because we blundered our bourgeois development, and unblundering it is going to involve outflanking the moron contingent.
(This won't happen, but your analyses will be more accurate if you're aware of the idiot problem and of the ability of idiots to drag others down to their level.)
>>2846387I just read it and you just seem like a lazy liar, to be honest.
>>2846388It's time to calm down.
>>2846390>The ruling class has no use for the democratic heritage of 1776; it has set out to repudiate it. The most concentrated expression of that repudiation was the New York Times’s 1619 Project, an effort—promoted by the Democratic Party and a coterie of academics—to recast the whole of American history as an unbroken narrative of racial oppression, to strip the American Revolution and the Civil War of their democratic and egalitarian content, and to replace the class struggle with the reactionary fiction of an eternal war of races. The World Socialist Web Site led the struggle against this falsification, defending the genuine revolutionary traditions of the American Revolution and Civil War.https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/06/12/gqqq-j12.htmlThe War of Independence was a war to preserve slave ownership, and Lincoln wanted to deport the blacks after the Civil War. The 1619 project are also not the origin of "woke", but an extension of it. Racialist politics have a long history in the US, but only with the Civil Rights Act do you get race being a protected category, which then extends to sexuality and gender, until we have the lawfare we have today, in the UK and US.
>>2846397You are literally too thick to understand the argument because it doesn't use your magical no-no word
>Confusing the historical origin of racialist politics with bourgeois historical falsification I am begging you to stop listening to Lindsay and read an actual fucking book
>>2846397It is hilarious that you think there is a "woke" explanation of history and will contend that anyone who offers you a historical materialist position is in fact a liar
>>2846397I'm done mate, my little £80 Motorola can't handle this
Pray for my E15
>>2846396I would say that in the UK, the first movement of the "dissident right" began with Jonathan Bowden; in the US, with Pat Buchanan and Samuel Francis. It was Buchanan who claimed that politics had become a "cultural war", for example. So, before the explicit dominance of social media, but leading up to it. For example, Bowden claimed that Islam was a valid ideology and religion, which is unheard of on the white conservative right, who are really liberals.
>smart people who read became "woke" or communist because of similar technological changesDo you need intelligence to virtue signal?
>corporations realised they weren't going to buy off the left/libs with token gestures in the long runBut they already have. What exactly is the demand of leftist identity politics besides more minority "representation" in media? (you will notice that rightist idpol just demands the same thing; white people in adverts and movies instead of black/brown people, etc.) It is a purely aesthetic and simulated politics.
>the idiot problemBut the idiots and smart people want the same thing; so you need a new revolutionary subject, anon.
>>2846398>Read a bookWhat book?
>>2846399The article doesn't explain the origin of political correctness or a faction of billionaires fighting against each other. You lied.
>>2846400Good. I shan't expect any more posts from you, then, I'm sure. 👍
>>2846396Social media is also why Britishness is now so cringe. The world thought we were smart refined people and then Brexit + everyone getting on Twitter let them all see that most of the country is a post soviet shithole and the median voter is a bright red fat bloke shoving a flare up his arse for Eng-er-land. No wonder yank libs who used to wish they had an NHS and a BBC now sneer and ask us to pronounce Taco…
Meanwhile our idiots are beguiled by the trinkets and nonsense and far right slop on offer to yanks. >>2846377OmG! That’s pure woke anti-setimism! Don’t you know that the top priority of the left is to give in to bourgeois moralisms?!
It’s clear from the absolutely scientific and in no way made up BS, provided to us by Lord and saviour Rupert Murdoch, that 150 GORILLION TRVE ARYAN PRINCESSESZ WERE GANGRAPED BY EBIL ASIATIC MANKIND!
And if you doubt those numbers, then you must be a he-man woman hater who hates western civilization like the shire of the Hobbit!
>>2846410But what does James Lindsay make of this? Is inflation part of the woke left?
The ChudIntern is grasping at straws to astroturf their lies on X’itter, even pushing up decades-old crap:
https://xcancel.com/kangminlee/status/2067508920780833238https://xcancel.com/noian03/status/2067771784485609644And yes, they are all Trump’s loyal bottom bitches, if that’s what you’re wondering.
One wonders what will happen once Trump gets ousted. Even if his successor is Trump 2.0, Trump leaving would leave a gaping hole in the ChudIntern’s operational capability.
>>2846432Magical how the number of 250000 has entered into a mythical belief on par with Hitler's contention of German betrayal at Versailles
Lowe very probably knew the effect a Parliamentary document would have if it were to be stuffed with outright fabrication for his cause and the expediency it would offer him in courting Musk
Likewise it's hilarious that right wing grifters feign indignation realising they can cash in on the exploitation of the situation through blatant algorithm manipulation
This country now has its own politically established "great replacement" narrative
>>2846472Wonder how much of his zionism is principled belief and the rest sheer practical recognition he can siphon establishment funding and support for maintaining said position
>>2846472>>2846486Actually that makes less sense considering he's a true believer and not a cynic
>>2846404You don't need intelligence to virtue signal, but the two are correlated, and given stupid people have gone over to vice signalling that's a happy accident.
The demands of leftist identity politics go beyond representation in media. The obvious, tepid, abortive-yet-viable example is self-identification for transgender people, which has passed in various countries (including Ireland, Australia, Spain, and - absolutely inexplicably - Pakistan and Botswana) but which we saw fit to cause a minor constitutional crisis over. You might say this is an aesthetic and simulated politics, and it is a bit of a liberal LARP (actual trangsender people mainly compare about access to healthcare, libs go for self-ID, and reactionaries go for lurid fantasies of transgender rapebeasts.), but it is a step beyond that.
Even if we go with media representation, I must side with the smart liberals against the idiot conservatives: wanting media to be more representative so everyone can feel included (or even just to show how tolerant you are and virtue signal) is a much more laudable aim than wanting media to stop including black people and women because you're neither of those (or even just to vice signal), if they are both playing the same stupid game then one side is still clearly less evil - like Celtic and Rangers.
>>2846472OY VEY! NEVER QUESTION LE 250000 JUST LIKE YOU CANT QUESTION THE 100 MILLION VICTIMS OF COMMUNISM!
>>2846509>wanting media to be more representative so everyone can feel includedthis is just a business tactic to expand markets
>then one side is still clearly less evilmoralfagx
>>2846519It'll become a radical talking point used to spread their position among the wider public by essentially crediting all discourse on anti migrant hysteria with a criterion of truth
Whereas before the right have struggled to make inroads into British society with their views this will simply provide them with the battering ram to do so, thinning the line between racial prejudice and supposedly socially acceptable positions
>>2846443After the lack of outrage on Epstein from them, I don’t think the ChudIntern is in any position to be nagging the left for not believing in their MeToo-type BS.
>>2846452No one questions that Charlene disappeared, just the myth that her corpse was used to make kebab which is based on faulty evidence thrown out of court the moment it was presented. I should also mention how even the more honest peeps that still chase after her case admit that forensic evidence to prove the kebab story is non-existent.
British reactionaries just turned her death into a mythological story to use it as their avatar for white victimhood grievance politics, much like how a LA gang uses one of their dead ones as martyrs to rally around for their next gang war in socal.
And obviously, this goes back to the increase in superstitions and reactionary beliefs and virulent troglodyte-tier hatred among the white lumpen which in itself is a consequence of both the degrading material conditions overall as well as the British middle class becoming downwardly mobile to the status of full lumpenprole.
>>2846406Same for Canada now that American liberals barely mention it. Probably because of Canada falling down hard, especially as both the Trudeau and Carney cabinets are doing trumpian cuts on the welfare state.
I think that German comedian’s adage about Britain being the “Florida of Europe” is turning more and more true.
>>2846529That’s why I’ve often thought that the alt-right was partially a result of the left’s failure to question the feminist sexual assault dogma. Now you’re seeing the terminally online right using MeToo-ism as a battering ram to incite race riots in the UK via pedophobic slop.
What can the left do? Honestly, we should attack back by mockery. Mock the right for their hypocrisy and their disingenuous histrionics. Interview them in the streets to make them look dumb (as FEMI does on TikTok) and in general just pushback.
You don’t even have to be that edgy. Just say something like:
“The living cost crisis and the fate of the global economy are far more important than your MeToo-ism”.
You’d be surprised at how many chuds chomped out at me on X’itter for not blindly believing their BS claims.
>>2846453You gotta give it to Jordan Peterson: He made an entire career by acting as the daddy for many lonely alienated young men despite his advice being really basic and hyperindividualistic, as well as LARPing about fighting “postmodernism” when he talks like the standard deconstructionist when it comes to religion or any other topic for that matter sans when he has to blow the entire rabbinicate of Tel Aviv harder than a vacuum cleaner to show how much of a good you he is. To see what I mean, watch:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/CEEHjtVJHYshttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/QgWOd8VEFWshttps://m.youtube.com/shorts/PfIDW0gc4e0Idealist brainrot LOL. If his “debate” with Zizek (more like Zizek lecturing Jordan on basic bitch Marxism) wasn’t proof enough, I think his shit show at those Jubilee debates should suffice.
>>2846404>you will notice that rightist idpol just demands the same thing; white people in adverts and movies instead of black/brown people, etc.Now, although it becomes a bit of a boring debate over whether all problems can be attributed to individual agency or to society, the individual is very obviously a product of society, innate drives and impulses not withstanding. What I think is notable is that the term “victim” has special legal status and typically involves not systemic neglect and oppression but mistreatment by an individual or singular corporate/state agency.
One of the reasons that victimhood is very popular is it assigns unique individual worth and experience to suffering and provides a concrete legal claim. Fired from your job for extremely arbitrary reasons or a bad economy? You have no special victim status. Fired because you were a woman or gay/trans, or black? You do have special victim status. It’s important not to stay too much mentally in the 2010s though as some conservatives have been successful arguing about reverse discrimination in the legal system. It explains a lot about identity politics on both sides that the reaction to woke was to try to create a specific form white young male conservative grievance.
The current backwards movement means that special legal allocations/considerations for minority groups are less enforceable. They already weren't particularly binding but often were felt to be so bc of high profile cases and corporate HR rhetoric. Victimhood tried to address social ills through individualistic narrative and legalistic litigation which still broadly focuses on the individual even if social groups are considered.
The point of Civil Rights law wasn't to undo liberalism but to provide special consideration to those prior liberal states had systemically discriminated against. Mission creep was obviously a factor as it often is but it’s notable that the justices felt that once systemically created injustices were addressed such forms of "positive discrimination" would no longer be needed.
>>2846509>The demands of leftist identity politics go beyond representation in media>trangsender people mainly compare about access to healthcareBut the framework is still a liberal, market concept, ultimately (not saying that's a "bad" thing, but it isn't as radical as many imagine; one's identity doesn't have to be a political device).
>Even if we go with media representation, I must side with the smart liberals against the idiot conservatives: wanting media to be more representative so everyone can feel included (or even just to show how tolerant you are and virtue signal) is a much more laudable aim than wanting media to stop including black people and womenBut lets be honest, a 1:1 "representative" media landscape would not be so over-saturated with minorities - the battle is between over-representation versus under-representation, when again, this is a liberal, irradical and civil matter. The fact that it is confused with "politics" is silly, but this is the yardstick we use nonetheless.
>>2846536You cannot delegitimate their position through fantasies of argumentative retribution; likewise any response on questions of economic governance becomes a rationale in justifying their mythological narratives
These groups propel themselves from the breakdown and conversant growth in social tensions due to the predatory illusions of their leaders who maintain control through the obscene validation of their own ideological doctrine. You cannot simply highlight divisions in wealth as they become part and parcel of the creed of nationalism either through propagandistic conjecture which sells the individual a belief of economic exceptionalism by obscuring the actual situation or blinds then totally by sustaining the false ideological guise of capitalist society
The coming crisis will be a boon to these individuals as they begin to move to monopolise on the breakdown and proffer instead more overtly fascist positions within the establishment backed by the ruling class
>>2846549Why do you care about media representation quotas when they're nothing more than management strategies in the maintenance of class hegemony
Pick another hill to die on
>>2846547You see the material incentives for victimisation everywhere - people pretending to be disabled so they can benefits and the like. All of this is a sign of a society which is scamming itself into bankruptcy. Of course, we shouldn't be so harsh against scammers as much as those who allow scamming in the first place (but when you have effectively legalised bribery and corruption in politics, the public also have a right to treat society as a gambling shop).
>The point of Civil Rights law wasn't to undo liberalism but to provide special consideration to those prior liberal states had systemically discriminated against. Yes, and this is the internal contradiction of the freedom of association; rather than decriminalising free association between races, genders and sexual minorities, we legalised it, making it a positive law, rather than negative - and so terms and conditions apply. It is conservatives obstructing liberalism, and liberals thereby agitating a positive liberalism of compulsory association (e.g. forced racial integration in the US; anti-discrimination laws, etc.). So, rather than calling it illiberal, I would see it as positively liberal, as opposed to negatively liberal (in other words, there would be no need for integration if there was no Jim Crow).
>once systemically created injustices were addressed such forms of "positive discrimination" would no longer be needed.That's a nice thought, but it would be controversial to remove anti-discrimination laws from society, I would say.
>>2846555I don't care - I am pointing out that idpol is a dead-end.
For some reason, you seem to care that I appear to care, which is most curious.
Just sink the island to the bottom of the ocean, then you don’t have to worry about British politics at all
>>2846551Then what solution you propose to the issues that you described ITT?
>>2846573Joining a party and educating yourself as well as others
Starmer is gone
>>2846536>After the lack of outrage on Epstein from them, I don’t think the ChudIntern is in any position to be nagging the left for not believing in their MeToo-type BS.That is true but the problem was left throwing it's weight behind metoo bs to begin with.
>What can the left do? Honestly, we should attack back by mockery. Mock the right for their hypocrisy and their disingenuous histrionicsYep. But in that particular case that would also means mocking feminists histrionics. And this is a big taboo on both the corporate Labour left and the grassroot non-affiliated left. Despite feminism having been a net negative zombie-parasite entity to the left and society in general after all legal battles were won.
>>2846611uyghur.
>7 prime ministers in 10 years
deeply unserious country
I mean after all "we", the left, agreed/were fine with with pretty much every radfem vibe based rape bullshit they would come up with while the anti-sjw right at the time protested, rightfully so.
Now what if these 6 million groyped english girls who are LITTERALY CHILDREN (17yo and eleven month) actually felt like they were raped because Pakis are low-SMV while in their eyesight? Who can tell them they havent after all they FEEL LIKE they're being Berlin1945ed?
>>2846837the kkkid sstarver reich is over…
>>2846844Shut the fuck up you dumb fucking yank you dont understand how parliamentary systems work.
>>2846844under sortition there WILL be a new minister every 6 months at worst,and you WILL like it
We want to carve a tombstone
Engraved on the humble rock,
Death to PM Burnham
We are labourite Starmerites.
Death to the king, long live Tony Blair,
Long live the Republican Labour!
Starmer is gone, but Britain soldiers on
>>2846856Parliamentary systems only cycle through PMs like this when they're extremely distressed (Italy, Japan).
Britain only had 4 prime ministers between 1970 and 1980 despite undergoing a crisis that ultimately destroyed it as a coherent nation and
1 between 1980 and 1990, 1997 and 2007. New Zealand has elections every 3 years and still generally only eats through 1-3 per decade, Canada has only had 2 (Trudeau and Carney) despite being notoriously unstable for an FPTP party system. Scotland has only gone through 7 first ministers in the last 27 years (and one of them fucking
died) while Wales has only had
6 in the same time frame.
You don't understand parliamentary systems.
>>2846860i think there should be a new PM every hour, keep parliament on their toes
In the future everyone will have their 15 minutes of being PM.
>>2846860Centrist. Under direct democracy there will be NO ministers!
Did Starmer do anything besides fellate Trump and Israel?
>>2846901Quoted Enoch Powell and Road Runner, destroyed the Labour party.
>>2846872Nah it happens pretty regularly except when you have strong squatters (Merkel, Blair, Sanchez). Usually they fall into recycling once those people are gone.
>>2846868Keep Starm and carry on.
>>2846901Did more damage to civil rights than arguably any PM since Thatcher, which will never be repaired
>>2846905bri'ain has civil rights?
Are you guys unironically engaging in denying the mass rape by Pakistanis? Like are you sure this is the winning gambit here?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
>>2846912Read:
https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4838https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation#%22Grooming_Gang%22_Scandalshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Research:_Intergenerational_Relationships_in_History#cite_ref-47Like, the average white child (as in, pre-pubescent humans, not anyone below the magic age line of adulthood) is more likely to be sexually abused by a white adult, especially a relative, authority figure, dad, acquaintance, or same-age peer more than a stranger adult of a different race. Same goes for child murder.
So sorry not sorry, but I don’t believe that rightoid MeToo-ist hysteria over teen prosties warrants the incineration of all Britain so that its remains can be sold to Elon Musk for less than a quid.
Furthermore, rightoids discredited themselves when they can’t even be bothered to be outraged at the countless white women killed by white men, let alone condemn Epstein except as an afterthought despite the files involving British persons of interest. So they don’t get to reject MeToo whilst engaging in the same shit for opportunistic reasons.
Btw, I also think Johnny Depp, Harvey Weinstein, Gary Glitter, the guy mattress girl accused of raep, Russell Brand, Michael Jackson and many other men are innocent. So you don’t get to tell me that I’m a hypocrite, dawg.
>>2846912Yes, when your opponent brings up a false premise, the only winning move is not to play. Hell it works a lot of the time even when the claim is true
>>2846912I deny falsehoods, yes
>>2846922>Btw, I also think Johnny Depp, Harvey Weinstein, Gary Glitter, the guy mattress girl accused of raep, Russell Brand, Michael Jackson and many other men are innocent.Bro threw a fun fact there
Is Burnham due to give a speech
Would quite like to watch the absolute car crash it becomes when he sets out his policy initiatives
>>2846925>sexual assault correlates perfectly with the alt-right appearence in 2014Ogre
>>2846916The funniest thing is that even the official state reports describe the prosties as willingly taking drugs and cash for sex for the most part. Like, what is “grooming” if not simple seduction, right? That it’s a thought-terminating cliche nowadays doesn’t negate that seduction was involved.
Granted, I do think there were some rapes, but that goes for ALL interactions with prosties (especially ones addicted to drugs) considering how sex with sex workers is a morally grey area (which is why traditionally feminists see all prostitution as rape).
Nonetheless, all the hard numbers point to a different picture contrary to the sensationalist hysteria whipped up by the oligarch-funded sloptubers and yellow press journos. For example, both the 1000000 and 250000 figures aren’t based on actual data so much as absurd extrapolations based on taking fringe cases accumulated over decades into the whole country which is then wrongly generalised as the magic number on par with the 100 million allegedly killed by communist regimes.
250,000 is like 1 in 24 women and girls between the ages of 10 and 25 in the UK. It's not credible. I'd buy that 1 in 24 were victims of sexual assault during the time period, maybe, but 1 in 24 being victims of these specific "gangs" is absolutely ludicrous. And 1 million is roughly a third of all white female under-16s in the UK as of the latest census.
Even the Casey report chuds love to spam reportedly pointed to ~18000 cases, which is essentially just less than 5% of all reported CSA as of 2023.
Likewise, considering how the 2003 Sexual Offences Act is structured, even if a 12 yo woman did consent to sex with any man that would be deemed as CSA and counted in the stats as rape. Likewise, how many of these cases were prolonged episodes of abuse or just one-offs? How many were just cases of juvenile prostitution? Was the harm iatrogenic or heavily affected by family background as many of these prosties come from impoverished single mom households? And how many of these testimonies are verified at all considering how the police barely investigates rape claims at all?
This isn’t an excuse since sex crimes aren’t monolithic and crime can be socially constructed. So there’s no reason to take chuds at face value here when they themselves fail to make any distinction. For le mass raeps claim to be true, the chuds would have to prove some sort of organisational link. And yet they don’t, so there’s no reason to treat this as localised events, much like how black pimping of white women in 1970s America was often exaggerated, or how most “white slavery practitioners” were Italians and Jews back when “white slavery” (a moralistic bourgeois catch-all term for various violations of sexual norms ranging from promiscuity between private individuals to actual sexual violence).
I bet chuds wouldn’t even be bitching themselves over it if the criminals in question looked like this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21oAll in all, there’s no empirical evidence of le 250000 graeps, and it’s mostly mass hysteria that plays into already-existing prejudices against heterosexuality and Asian men. Rapes did happen, but far less than what chuds and many leftists would like you to think.
Even if you think prostitution is all bad, you’d have to admit most females wouldn’t engage in it if they weren’t poor or lacked a social safety net. Want to decrease instances of women engaging in prostitution? Then alleviate the poverty of the women and the legal guardians they cohabit with. Ofc, that’s anathema to most chuds who hate the welfare state and think less people means less poverty despite the fact that a rapid population decrease would tank the British economy as opposed to reducing poverty.
>/leftypol/: "uh actually the 13 year old girls were given money, how is that grooming then????"
>>2846949It'd actually be comical if the 250 000 figure were valid but the majority were performed by British nationals
Lowe accidently uncovering patriarchal social customs and generalised sexual violence against women would be an all time bit
>white nutter goes shirtless attacking muslims with a machete in edinburgh
>story almost completely ignored, token d-tier reporting only
hmmmmmmmmm
>>2846963Fuckers facing terror charges so will see a bright white cell for the rest of his life
The fact that it's clearly been instigated by the establishment reaction on the right just completely passes notice, likewise Musk's support through his platform for peddling conspiracy theories
>>2846955There haven't been 250.000 rapes by brown people gangs in the UK in the span of 30 years. Simple as that.
>>2846975Yes no shit but denying minor solicitation and grooming is fucking moronic
Working class girls were deliberately targeted from poor backgrounds without council support or services due to their vulnerability.
>>2846975> 250.000This is britpol, germ-b-gone.
>>2846976Confirmed incidents of minor solicitation*
>>2847000>YouTuber cultural commentator slopAre you a yank
>>2847003>>2847000Also
>American tier bourgeois sociology speakFucking despise you and the fact you watch this shit
>>2847003>>2847005IF you're not interested you can say nothing?
It's better than your endless noncery and obsession with browns raping. Christ.
>>2847015>Uh actually my astrology tier cultural butterfly jar collecting video is more important Based retard, I hope the brain worms feast on the liquidised goop of your brain long before you hit the grave due to radioactive overexposure to this garbage
>>2847021Where's the Andrew Tate option
>>2847029I don’t get why Tate is popular to begin with. His financial advice is either the kind that can be found in basic financial self-help books, or inapplicable since Tate makes money from investing in real estate and running camwhore scams as well as his patrimony from his career in MMA.
His masculinity is performative what with him seemingly crossing the checklist of every masculine role from sports fighter to pimp.
Also, he got ran out of Romania to the USA, his luxury house of Dubai is getting bombed, and he is widely considered to be a joke, especially with his contradictory talks of “the Matrix”.
Basically, the fact that there are still loads of young men willing to pay massive quids to get into his “Cobra Tate university” where the advice they’ll get is the same as most manospherian advisers is a sign of deeper alienation among young men in post-industrial societies where they seek out an idealised paternal figure by developing a parasocial relationship with e-celebs full with financial transactions.
Burnham has the exact same policies as Starmer. But he's less socially awkward and from Manchester so centrists and Labour members will act like he's the Messiah and will fix everything.
In the end, Starmer was a weakling who gave in to his dissenters, and now the right is gloating over it. He should never have resigned.
I have an interview at a casino to be a poker dealer tomorrow evening, does anyone have any experience at this kind of job? What should I expect?
Liverpool Communes Coordination announced its establishment.The Kurdish community living in Liverpool, England, adopted a new organizational model and transitioned to a commune system at its regular congress. The congress, which began with a moment of silence in memory of the martyrs of the Kurdistan Freedom Party, saw a large turnout.
The congress presidium consisted of Seyid Pîrsûs, Hakan Riha, Fırat Amed, and Meryem Qamişlo.
Devrim Sara and Baran Cewlîg delivered the opening speeches on behalf of the congress preparatory committee. Their speeches highlighted the spirit of the new process and the importance of the commune system in social organization. They emphasized that the commune model, which is based on the direct participation of the people in building a democratic society, is the fundamental form of organization for the new era.
<REMZI KARTAL: THE FIRST STEP WAS TAKEN IN LIVERPOOL.Remzi Kartal, co-chair of Kongra Gel, who joined the congress online, greeted the work in Britain on behalf of the people of Liverpool.
Evaluating the developments in the Middle East and Kurdistan, Kartal pointed to the historical importance of the call made by Kurdish People's Leader Abdullah Öcalan on February 27th. Stating that the administrative and social structure of Britain should be taken into account, Kartal referred to the examples of Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland, and expressed that the new organizational structure would be shaped based on the unique conditions of England.
Kartal stated that the communes established in Liverpool were one of the first important steps in this new process, and called for the strengthening of democratic society initiatives.
The working reports read at the congress covered many topics, from mobilization efforts in Rojava to actions and events in Britain. While the reports were evaluated by the public, self-critical discussions regarding the new period were also held.
<12 COMMUNES WERE DECLARED.At the congress, the establishment of 12 new communes, formed in line with societal needs based on the understanding of democratic modernity, was announced. It was stated that these communes, encompassing diverse social spheres including youth, women, diplomacy, and families of martyrs, would carry out organizational work in the new period.
The new organization was announced as the "Liverpool Communes Coordination." Following elections, Eyşê Efrîn and Mîro Îdir were elected as co-spokespersons of the coordination.
In their brief speeches, the co-spokespersons stated their readiness to assume the responsibilities of the new era, pledging to expand commune work and improve social organization.
<CALL TO THE ZILAN WOMEN'S FESTIVALThroughout the congress, the crowd frequently chanted slogans such as "Bijî Serok Apo" (Long live Leader Apo) and "Şehîd Namirin" (Martyrs never die).
In the closing speeches, an invitation was extended to participate in the Zilan Women's Festival, which will be held for the 21st time this year, and thanks were given to the administrations that have served until now for their efforts.
In its assessment, the council expressed its belief that the work of the new period would be successful under the leadership of co-spokespersons and coordination. It was emphasized that the work would be further expanded on the basis of the democratic society paradigm developed by Leader Apo.
The congress concluded with chants of "Bijî Serok Apo" (Long live Leader Apo) and messages of commitment to the goals of the new period of struggle.
https://anfenglishmobile.com/analIz/liverpool-komunler-koordinasyonu-kurulusunu-ilan-etti-230142 Loved Ode to Joy playing in the background. It's like somebody said "well, at least it's not raining, guess we'll have to make our own rain'.
Utterly deranged government.
>>2847158>BRITAIN IS BROKEN Vile
>>2846912I just don't think the numbers add up. It was at least 6 millions.
>>2847158The right is anti-reality
pandering to them is enabling irrationality.
>>2847234Will be interesting to see how the press mount and offensive against him
>>2847222Hitler's strongest soldier should remain in his self imposed exile.
>>2847234I think he'll get Carney treatment for a while. they'll see him as a pragmatic, uncontroversial statesman who polls higher as an individual than his own party. but it wont last, even if people don't start to hate him, the political scene in Britain is far too chaotic, this period will essentially be a small period of 'the calm before the storm before drama from reform, restore, and all the shitload of social/economic issues start to unravel once again
>>2847346>I think he'll get Carney treatment for a while.Doubt. Carney got that because he won against an uncharismatic traitor from the opposition.
bongs, wtf is going on in your country? theres been like 6 PMs in the last 7 years
>>2847392>6 PMs, 7 years>6 7the grandest meme state in the world
>>2847392Become ungovernable
>>2847392Britain is a managed democracy but the press can only destroy people, not make them popular. The result is a succession of dud leaders each more dud and crooked than the last. In Starmer's case, his aide McSweeney and his aide's boss, Mandelson, have openly bragged about collaborating with the press to wreck their own party 2015-20, and then to lie their way back into control of it. The only problem is that the public has never wanted what they're selling and the more the center left vote base (~30% of voters) have seen, the more they've disliked, so now Labour is at death's door. The Tories similarly died after the genuinely popular (on the right) Johnson and at-least ideological Truss were rolled for getting too big for their boots (Johnson gave a speech that made clear he thought he had a personal mandate post-2019 rather than getting in only thanks to the press) and being an actual moron (Truss) leaving behind Sunak (who, by the by, was at the same parties that formed the official justification for rolling Johnson…)
Basically read off British election results as a more slapstick version of Russian ones where a handful of libs and celtic nationalists slip through because the guys managing the results aren't very good at their jobs.
Britain is the new Italy
>>2847426More like the ne Japan. Island nations in permanent stagnation woth a revolving door pm.
>>2847427Except unlike Britain, Japan’s system is that of a dominant-party state where you have the Japanese equivalent of the Tories ruling the country nigh-uninterrupted throughout Japan’s postwar history.
>>2847459I mean what's really the difference between New Labour and Liberal Conservatives in this country?
>>2843758the first lady is the perfect example of modern day liberal feminism
>>2847222ahh I see you Brits have your own version of our ACP in america. I wish there was a way to get these fags to fuck off .
>>2847511Pretty much every european country have their local flavored version of the ACP since before it was even a thing, they are all inneficient turncoats that mysteriously "wake up" when the left is in power and disapear when the right is in charge.
I was just raped again.
>>2847522MAJOR HAPPENING ALERT:
I was just raped again. >>2847524hey spare some for the rest of us
im personally mostly pissed because I want to be tied down and raped by dogs but NOOOOO they have to do that to other people it's not fucking fair
>>2847517Yeah. Europe came up with this first. You look around at a given country and there will be a mainline communist party and then something calling itself the Communist Reconstruction Pole (Marxist-Leninist) of Elbonia.
>>2847518you think this makes your case look more plausible but the reality is it makes it look ridiculous. if you stack possible but improbable events the result is quite obviously less probable. it is one thing to assert "communist parties can take power" and another to stack 15 layers high to conclude that the CPB are going to take power in coalition with the CPGB-ML after nepal style insanity and a quick bout of pol potism.
>>2847222>class and countrykek
>>2847561>if you stack events that happen miserably too often to the extent of being endemic, the result is more than possibleftfy
>>2847577Where’s the evidence for le gubbmint doing le 6 gorillion mass raeps tho besides muh feelz?
Also, when was the last time a sus domesticus mass raeped a woman? Because last time I heard a pig being involved in sexual activity was that time David Cameron was alleged to have fondled a dead pig once LOL.
And yh, extrapolations are retarded if based on unproven presumptions.
Besides, we already went through this. The fate of the global economy is more important than some lurid tabloid-level BS whipped up into culture war slop by MeToo-ist chuds.
>>2847577You’re not presenting evidence. You’re presenting a chain of assertions and then treating the conclusion as established because each individual link sounds plausible in isolation.
Let’s rewrite your argument:
- Men can commit rape.
- Police can cover up crimes.
- Ethnonationalists can use sexual violence.
- Institutions can fail victims.
- Therefore there were hundreds of thousands of victims in a coordinated, institutionally-backed campaign.
The problem is that the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises.
To establish a claim of that scale, you need evidence for the specific claim itself:
* Where is the methodology?
* Where does the victim estimate come from?
* How were cases verified?
* What evidence demonstrates organisation rather than localised offending?
* What evidence demonstrates institutional backing rather than incompetence, negligence, or ordinary bureaucratic failure?
You can’t fill evidentiary gaps by piling together examples of bad things that have happened elsewhere.
I agree that rape exists. I agree that institutional failures exist. I agree that police corruption exists. None of that tells me whether the specific numbers being thrown around are accurate.
The issue isn’t whether the claim is conceivable. The issue is whether it has been demonstrated.
None of those propositions establish that there were 250,000 victims, let alone that there was a coordinated, institutionally-backed campaign.
The more extraordinary the claim, the more important methodology becomes. Show me the sampling method, the verification process, the statistical model, and the evidence for coordination.
Until then, you’re arguing from a stack of assumptions, not from evidence.
>>2847616ALL of them! Remember, 6 gorillion Brits in the UK got gigs mass graped by Pakistanis straight in the bum on an industrial scale (think like those piggies at those factory farms) since the 1950s per Lowe’s totally transparent and non-sloppy partisan NYT-style blogpost known as “rape gang inquiry report”.
Denying it constitutes an attack on Israel and Western Civilization and the pope, just like denying the totally scientifically-established 100 gorillion deaths due to communism as established in the black book of Communism.
The end times are near!!! Run!!!!
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/uk-record-heatwave-health-economic-impacts-1804257https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/heatwave-uk-weather-forecast-june-1976-b3001062.htmlTbf tho, the heatwave will be worst in large metropolises due to the heat being captured and trapped by the concrete, asphalt, glass and other materials with high specific heat capacity that cities are made of, further worsening the heating local atmosphere.
>>2847616Yeah, i love getting on grindr and finding some fit paki lads to 'rape' my 'straight' bum
>>2847517Spain has an ACP whose founder used to shill for Rojava in the 2010s. Textbook oportunist lmao.
the Scottish ferry scandal is more important than rape gang slop and even it isn't really worth your attention
>>2847665He's snappy, probably got 'raped' by a pakistani man this morning.
>>2847671>Spain has an ACP whose founder used to shill for Rojava in the 2010saverage /leftypol/ack trajectory
>>2847677Never heard of this before. Why do the rest of us need to pay for these stupid ferries for remote islands? Living on an island in the middle of nowhere should be a privilege not a right
>>2847814We subside roads and ferries are actually cheaper on the whole. (When you don't bungle the contract for PR reasons)
>>2847928We subsidize roads to places people actually live. I dunno not like it's the biggest issue in the world I guess, whatever, there's far bigger wastes of money like corruption obviously
>>2845523>>2845526Deng was Communist. He was a member of the Communist party, shed his own blood fighting Japanese fascists, and corrected the ultra-left excesses of the GPCR era, while making the PRC stronger, America weaker and more dependent on socialist countries, and helped DPRK evade American sanctions. You can say he was perfect, but he was a Communist, and not just a Communist, but a Communist who did far more for Communism than most people on here.
>I am convinced that more and more people will come to believe in Marxism, because it is a science. Using historical materialism, it has uncovered the laws governing the development of human society. Feudal society replaced slave society, capitalism supplanted feudalism, and, after a long time, socialism will necessarily supersede capitalism. This is an irreversible general trend of historical development, but the road has many twists and turns. Over the several centuries that it took for capitalism to replace feudalism, how many times were monarchies restored! So, in a sense, temporary restorations are usual and can hardly be avoided. Some countries have suffered major setbacks, and socialism appears to have been weakened. But the people have been tempered by the setbacks and have drawn lessons from them, and that will make socialism develop in a healthier direction. So don't panic, don't think that Marxism has disappeared, that it's not useful any more and that it has been defeated. Nothing of the sort! Deng Xiaoping, Excerpts From Talks Given In Wuchang, Shenzhen, Zhuhai And Shanghai, 1992
>>2848014The prince of Whales
t. Donald Trump
>>2848016Oh that's the guy who got fin-dommed by Meghan Markle right? Sad! Many such cases!
>>2848018Nah, that would be Prince Harry, Duke of Essex.
I’m referring to William, Prince of Wales, the son of the current king of England whose sole notable feat is deciding to marry a used up roastie as opposed to a nubile English Rose.
>>2848044You Anglos and your obsession with royalty is repulsive. I bet I could ask for the names and titles of all their second cousins and you would be able to recite them all to me like a parrot. No wonder your country has voted Tory for 99% of its existence you are all ontologically and genetically reactionary.
>>2848391When are these people going to die?
>>2847948One of the tragedies of socialism was how Deng wasn't killed when the revolutionaries had the chance to. He was a bourgeois counter-revolutionary dedicated to rebuilding DotB, and all he did was take part in the destruction of China (it is wrong to blame it all on himself when it was the bourgeois operating as a class who achieved the reaction not just an individual). Dog.
>>2848391he's a fundamentalist Christian. i heard that he doesn't like to openly say it and i haven't seen much news media mention it.
he's always portrayed as this expert military man to give the IDF credibility.
>>2847948Dengism's strongest warrior is posting here… Crazy.
>Corrected the ultra-left excesses Funny way to say implemented state capitalism and destroyed the Chinese socialist project.
>You can say he was perfectNo. I don't think I will.
>>2848391Reminds me of when Pierre polivierre said “as a simple got from the prairies” with a yamaka literal bait
>>2848508Worded like this it sound like he's calling himselg prime cattle meat
'>>2848412
Nah Deng should be credited for keeping the show on the road at all. The most realistic alternative to Deng is a Soviet style collapse and reversion to regular capitalism.
(Which would have the funny effect that Taiwan probably still wouldn't unify, or would only have a meme union like Russia and Belarus, unless it happened before democratisation in Taiwan)
One cannot wish away the necessity of developing the productive forces. It isn't treachery for a communist party to take on the historical role abrogated by China's bourgeois liberals. It is tragic that one cannot have socialism in one great leap, but this is politics, not a morality play.
At my office we're all talking about whether we should get air conditioning for our houses. It's the end of an era, I reckon soon the UK will be like America where every house has to come with a massive AC system
>>2848702The horror. Vote down the A/C. suffer the heat.
>>2848702I mean if we get heat waves like this regularly were gonna have to simply for health issues.
The most affected region at the moment is the west side of France it is currently hotter in Paris and Nantes than in the middle of the sahara, and has been so since the heat wave began a weak and a half ago.
And before some cheeky bastard start telling me it's good because it cause boomercide: Virtually all boomers have AC in france thanks to their plentiful pension, it's the youth and the non-rich non-boomers that are suffering.
>>2848702Kinell. Members of my family are starting to go to an evangelical church where they sing pop-gospel music. We have been conquered.
>>2848702Also, they all have AC in the US because they dont build houses with bricks, but use wood and plaster instead, so can fit loads of pipes in their hollow walls. Deregulation in the housing market will surely bring this lack of quality. Let's also expect "trailer parks" as well.
Lost my bank card last week, phoned them tuesday morning, it's now 8 days later and it has still not arrived. Can't go to the bank because they closed them all.
Not even the smallest, most simple things work in this country.
>>2848767They've closed down the bank franchises like they've closed down the post offices. Common services are becoming luxuries.
>>2848740Why is the camera all fucked up? Parts of this feel like im in a khole or stroking out.
>>2848771Yep. I'm sure they still exist in the nice areas. I despise this country.
Did anybody here used to watch Babestation?
>>2848846The ten minute Freeview? As a kid yeah
>>2848846Honestly given what language has come out of PornHub and OnlyFans, it’s almost quaint to hear girls referred to as “babes” now. I’m opposed to all the internet censorship going on now, but I can’t deny there’s something about “babestation” being a televised Page 3 (if I recall correctly) that seems so harmless compared to people gooning to “stepsister cum slut get fucked after becoming implausibly stuck in washing machine”
>>2848852It's the ever deepening penetration of capital circuits into social life through the proliferation of technology and their liquidating effect on social relations; social life itself is wearing thinner. Pornography consumption is now no longer rife but directly integrated into human sociality, such that daily life has regressed with the degeneration of contemporary capitalist society into an extreme social symbolic violence
Human sexuality itself has been reduced by virtue of the commodification of experience to a mere product. The absolute violence of this pornography and its revolting titling is constitutive of the decay in social relations proper. Women are reduced to the mere product of openly more violent human fantasies which in the early 2000s was at least restrained.
>>2848863>>2848852To add: it is is ridiculous that the petite bourgeois flesh merchants of OnlyFans peddle their brands as somehow liberating when again it is the mutual result of both their own profitable enslavement and a parasitism on the working class
The hypocrisy of selling sexual liberation through a more dictatorial form of social control is beyond belief. Is it any wonder that as porn proliferates, so too do likes of media personalities such as Tate
>>2848852>>2848863This is reality of all this is to say that the violence of consumption of pornography is mirrored in the wider technical developments of media; what you miss is a time free from the overwhelming dominance of the ever more exploitative conditions of commodity production and their social relations of contemporary society. Pornography has penetrated into the very fabric and form of daily life, in the likes of tiktok and advertising in general, itself just being another means of capitalist propagandising.
>>2848864Yeah one can wonder whether there really are so many people out there wanting to buy bath water from a girl who’s thing is wearing pink wigs and making goofy faces to make her a millionaire, or is that just the marketing that encourages women to sign up only to end up netting £30 and a weird new obsession from a co-worker before shutting their account and hoping the internet (if not their relatives and friends) can forget all about it.
>>2848869Sure and it is violence really, people can claim it’s liberating because it’s women “taking control” over men’s desires (which is sort of claiming like getting your kit off is counter-violence) but during the time of babestation people would refer to the women as “tarts” which is actually still quite quaint in comparison to what Tate fans refer to women as now.
Probably can’t prevent the oldest profession but
why does such hostility come from those who, frankly, ought to be grateful for the service of letting them have a peek.
Or rather the violence intrinsic to pornography becomes evident via the language, rather than the language being the origin which is the mistake I think a lot of sex-positive people make when criticising Tate’s merry band of hate wankers
>>2848884>actually still quite quaint in comparison to what Tate fans refer to women as now.Again, it's due to the total degeneration of social relations. 'Tart' still embodies the dominance of the class relation but permits an element of freedom, whereas Tate's language is a symbolic representation of the denigration of female sociality to being nothing more than mere property.
>>2848887It is not a violence par excellence, and hence not a property exclusively of pornography itself but the constitutive fetishism of roles of domination involved in human psychology. The violence of pornography is that it is both the enacting and production of human fantasies which structure daily intercourse in human life reduced to the most bare element of male sexual domination.
>>2848884>>2848905This is really to say that "tart" is the language of perversion, or the pervert who takes a perverted sense of enjoyment from their enjoyment of an obscenity
Tate's language by contrast is that of total possession and the reduction of human female agency to an object of pleasure. The implicit injunction in his language is not that pleasure is permitted, but that the satisfaction of previously obscene drives is now permissable, vis a vis a social symbolic violence
It really is the language of two different ages
>>2848420it's crazy how readily you repeat assertions without quoting or counter arguing anything. you have nothing but repetiation. like goebbels.
>>2848420There is no "Dengism." Deng was Marxist. He applied Marxism to the conditions China found itself in at the time. It worked. Deng won. Marx won. You lost.
>>2849066>>2849067This has to be a troll. Comparing Marxists to Goebbels and worshipping Dengist Free Market Capitalism.
Marx lost, the Chinese proletariat lost, the future lost when you abandoned socialism buddy.
There's a reason why if China held western style elections today all the predictions say a neo-Maoist faction would win.
Dengist theory literally calls class struggle "an obstacle to economic development" and celebrates the so-called people's CEOs and people's billionaires.
>>2848949Burnham selecting Purnell is indicative of a deeply disturbing choice of direction.
The man more or less worships Blair and called the disabled "people who scrounge from the system" when he was work and pensions secretary.
>>2849096Legitimately interested over the course of direction both Starmer and Burnham will take regarding the deficit in defence spending.
Starmer faced a backbench rebellion when he tried to cut welfare spending, come the time how will Burnham deal with this. Will the party just force the whip, or will Milliband replace Reeves and offer a different course?
>>2849193As an aside, I was in the job centre the other day and was told that I, along with all other claimants, are to be officially referred to as "customers"
Made me chuckle, Fisher's business ontology is alive and kicking
>>2849560These same techniques in the study of social development can easily be switched to justify overtly Fascist positions by mere substitution of terminology. Literally all this proves is that the reproduction of distinctions in social class are dependent on life outcomes inherent to British capitalist society.
How are the high tories in Britain are they making a comeback/relevant
mods.
I thought he posted child porn for a minute
>>2849586>this association was mediated partly via educational qualifications, but not at all via occupational social class. I'm not so sure about that.
Pretending you have a class problem when you have an idiot problem will lead you down the blind alley of "Labour should be bigoted warmongers to win back the real working class" and then being surprised when the actual mass base or bigotry - petty criminals, petit bourgeois, and retirees - aren't won over while most of the workforce jump ship to Libs, Greens, or Celtic nationalist socdems.
It's time to say it. Britain has no socialist movement.
We are in a period of reaction and we have to let it pass until we can properly organise a socialist future.
>>2849779This is true but I think it's worth fighting to give it a liberal movement that can mitigate the pain of the coming reaction. "Peace, retrenchment and reform" is a fundamentally sound second best.
(Sadly, we don't have a liberal party or movement either, so this is a pipe dream.)
>>2849777You misunderstand me, I'm not equating intelligence with social class but the outcomes involved in the production of liberal attitudes leading to its reproduction
>>2849821Quite like the idea that there are only five people who run the entirety of MI5
>>2849821Watched like 1 or 2 episodes when they were on TV but just found it gross propaganda yeah
>>2849821The only crime show I watched was Luther and I thought it was brilliant, until they tried to make him into another James Bond figure
>>2843569Do you guys think that WeGovy/Mounjaro/whatever should be free on the NHS? I can afford it but obviously many can't, surely it would save a shit load of money in the long run with obesity related illnesses? Or are they just hoping people die younger you think?
Remember Posie Parker?
Wealthy British boomer TERF streamer who advocated for the use of violence against trans people, had soup thrown at here in New Zealand, marched alongside Swastika carrying neo-Nazis in Australia, now turned to outright white nationalist/neo fascist and Tommy Robinson sidekick.
Her dog died from overheating in the current weather which she's now claiming was an accident and not neglect, and has a Daily Mail article today claiming she's the victim of this situation and not the dog she allowed to burn to a crisp.
Source:
https://xcancel.com/DailyMail/status/2070093308697669957If I had a pound for every far right personality that killed their own dogs, I'd now have £3.
Elon simp Catturd "accidentally" ran over his dog and Kristi Noem shot a puppy in the face for being to loud. Weird how it keeps happening…
>>2849884Oh it's a fucking pug as well
>>2849884Fucking chuckling, the very first post on her twitter is a Sora generated Disney-esque extreme right video
Why is AI like fucking catnip to these boomers
How do you and the euros get real cocaine but all the stuff in Amerikkka is stepped on garbage?
Labour and the BBC are both stating that the government is introducing a total, complete, all encompassing conversion therapy ban.
This is a lie.
You can read the draft for yourselves. It makes an exemption for anyone who is a "healthcare provider" ie functionally including anyone who self identifies as the therapist.
Which of course by definition is anyone conducting conversion therapy.
So in practical terms, it is banning nothing at all.
>>2849923Equality will feel like oppression to the rulers and their children
>"We're banning torture-people-into-not-being-openly-LGBT therapy! Thank us progressives!"
>"Please don't mind the small print that says anyone self identifying as a therapist is exempt from the ban! :)"
>>2849923Funny how the Daily Heil article opens by calling her a woman's rights activist when she appears alongside fascist white supremacist woman beaters and has stated she's fine with abortion being outlawed, and has stated on her streams she would be willing to have divorce be outlawed in exchange for "getting rid of" trans people
>>2849930>divorce be outlawedI too wish to return to the 1600s
MAKE THREADS REAL
MAKE THREADS REAL
MAKE THREADS REAL
Good Friday agreement status?
>>2849884>Posie Parker>Tommy RobinsonThese pseudonyms are cringe for reasons I can’t explain
>>2849936Will you shut up man. Yeah we probably will get more air conditioning, now that the climate is fucked, we held out as long as we could, well done Americans for being the biggest polluters in history
>>2849884>Elon simp Catturd "accidentally" ran over his dog and Kristi Noem shot a puppy in the face for being to loud. Weird how it keeps happening…You're forgetting Rapey Ethan and teh Raider of Ramallah who fed their dog cheese and chocolate until it died.
>>2849818I'd appreciate if you could illustrate your point more clearly (probably by giving an example of how the same techniques might justify fascism) or why the conclusion of the study should be disregarded / doesn't prove anything.
>>2849916Because they are tasteless. Taste is difficult or impossible to measure but you occasionally see back and fourths ITT between the guy obsessed with textwalling about ancient greeks and others. A lack of taste leads them to indulge their ugly political views and a lack of taste leads them to enjoy slop-posting.
It's a shame taste is almost impossible to measure empirically because it's quite possibly a better predictor of political alignment than intelligence (e.g. as stupid as he acts, Musk
isn't an actual moron… but he is completely and utterly tasteless.) and possibly carries better across time (e.g. the polarisation of voting by intelligence is a recent phenomenon. In 2015 vote shares were basically identical across all levels of educational attainment, 2017 was the first "smart vs dumb" election - but openly voting Tory has been cringe for
decades, something that one should at the very least be apologetic about and make excuses for…)
Anyway, lack of taste is the linking factor.
No taste > likes AI slop, No taste > is open about their enjoyment of slop (A tasteful person who has it as a guilty pleasure would beek quiet)
No taste > likes ugly political positions, No taste > is open about their enjoyment of ugly political positions…
Meanwhile it takes a certain degree of taste and self-confidence to endorse a position like "abolish the police" back when that was the in-thing, even if the practical approach to doing so is unclear. An idiot is afraid of looking dumb, a smart, tasteful, self-confident person on the other hand can say something potentially dumb and dare you to argue with them about it… >>2850009
Kys that’s cp faggot
>>2849884It seems the biggest threats to dogs are ATF agents, zoosadists, and now TERFs & chuds.
Welp, I guess we was wrong about the Chinese being the top threat of man’s best friend.
>>2850033She’s not in the pool though and that’s bourgeois degeneracy
>>2849930She has publicly stated that she doesn’t even identify as a feminist anymore because not even the average TERF was transphobic enough for her. Oh, and she is also a massive shabbos goy who also can’t decide herself what women should wear besides without “objectifying” themselves besides dressing up as a cringe gen X’er, to the surprise of no one.
Apparently there was some drama in TERF circles allegedly about her cult-like and dictatorial tactics aimed at suppressing her critics.
She reminds me of Tats in how their transphobia and hatred for male sexuality (since their hatred was mostly targeted at MtF trans) led them to become Neo-nazis.
I guess her co-appearance with actual Nazis at the same Australian hate demo she got souped in was foreshadowing that.
>>2850035>>2850022We get it, you’re a repressed pedophile. Here’s some sources for you to live a healthy non-offending life:
https://www.b4uact.org/Remember who you truly are, my sweet little summer pedo:
https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/MAP_Starting_Guide(Please dont link pro-pedophile sites, even as a joke) >>2850039>>2850039Kys pedophile mods ban him
>>2850022tbqh i would have given them the benefit of the doubt if there wasn't a glowanon with a history of nonce spam
>>2850040Stop being repressed and admit that your pee pee got hard over a girl with a summer swimsuit instead of being in denial about your true identity. Repent and parish uygha!
>>2850044LOL Monkey Dust was gemmy. Too bad it lasted for just 18 episodes. Reminds me of Paedogeddon, that Brass Eye special that gammons of yore went ass mad over
https://fstube.net/w/sSUS5m6pUD8aaV6zpZFjbk >>2850004The argument that it's taste is a childish notion
It's a form of reproduction in propagandising in which overt political messaging is substituted with a since deceased aesthetic which is used to schematise the extremely deranged ideologies of these idiots. It is absolutely no wonder that this moron embellishes what is essentially a pastiche of disney (distilled through the reduction of artificial intelligence) as the original plot narratives and scripts are hollowed out - those which previously served a more tacit and subtle form of propagandising - for the direct portrayal of their own brand of a barely veiled racialist narrative.
It has nothing to do with 'taste'; this idiot grew up with a version of a child's cartoon which lends itself to this practise of social control in which the previous veiled messaging used to socialise infants into an acceptance of bourgeois individualism is now profitably repurposed for their own similar deluded little ends of mythologising a credos of race.
>>2850070Lol most of the posts in that thread are from one guy. What a loser, even the other chuds don't seem to give a shit
>>2850078>>2850004It's actually no wonder that this moron resorts to disney as yet still it is the only referent frame of history they possess, i.e. that merely of commodity consumption
The transposition of their own moronic world views onto an industrially produced video serves the identical purpose and form of German film making during the nazi period in which film itself simply served the end of ideological control by the party itself
This idiot has no idea why they enjoy this content beyond the vague contentment that it serves their purpose wonderfully of advancing their social position whilst serving the dual purpose of propelling their retarded world view
>>2850103Yeah, and where are all the soycucks? I don't see any in this thread.
>>2850106
She didnt say this
The nonce shit is from a sharty raid it seems, report all their posts it's clear which they are
>>2850112
Okay, yeah they are coming in.
>>2850078>>2850092I don't necessarily disagree with any of this but then you're left with the question of why libs and 95% of socialists don't wind up like this and why they wind up on the opposite side of the spectrum (pro trans, pro migrant, anti-AI)
You could make lib slopaganda with AI just as surely as far right stuff, indeed, Google and Microsoft's earlier offerings skewed weakly in this direction (injecting prompts with racial and gender diversity to crudely overcome training bias, etc) but the lib-left side of culture has rejected it outright.
Isnt it funny how the venn diagram of paedophiles, neo-nazis, and sharty users is just a circle?
>>2850121
Rupert Lowe wants to take this from me?
snca random island nation
how about…. NIUE WON
hey I don’t know if you guys know this but uyghurs actually fly with their ears it’s true
the sharty died in like 2023, sorry for the nusois failraiding and annoying you guys, i started using leftypol like in 2024 and realize how much better it was compared to any imageboard.
>>2850117why does it feel ok to enjoy iranian AI lego slop. and chinese puppets with trump as a evil bird and khameini as a meowtollah?
but i see AI used in other stuff, on youtube, facebook, it feels cheap and bad taste.
Test
>>2850130Pls don't be a pedo
>>2850137Because of Kuz, probably. He is the cause for most failtrolls existing.
>>2850137if you look at the sharty now its full of spams and catalog wipes
>>2850143Most gem posters moved to the swinny
>>2850141The Lenin looking guy?
Why don't we just make a /soy/ general and educate all the soyteens instead of banning them, they aren't that bad when they actually calm down
>>2850147Just look him up on Soyjak Wiki.
I don't want to derail this thread any further.
>>2850150>EducationSure though post /edu/ or /siberia/ or whatever
>>2850150this but unironically
mods need to recreate
>>>/gulag/ >>2850158
Actually they lost
>>2850158
>Trump won
He lost
>Hitler won
He killed himself
>The Nazis won
They lost
>Fascist Italy won
They lost
>Imperial Japan won
They lost
>/pol/ won
They were created by epstein
>/qa/ won
It lost
>The Tsarists won
They were all killed and lost
>The Confederacy won
They lost
>Q was right
not really
>The capitol riots worked
to do what?
>Ashli Babbitt lived a long and happy life
ok man
>Trump was reinstated
By raping children
>Trump will never be imprisoned for being a traitor
He will be for being a pedophile
>There will be another Republican president
They are running out of pedophiles
>>2850157Soy people since you are watching this thread and i am watching you what books do you guys read, if any. do you like fishing or have pet animals
>>2850167i like reading books about Homotopy type theory,idealism,linguistics and i have a cat
>I read clay tablets and eat sand. I'm in a landlocked Lesotho so I cannot fish.
thats sad, do you think because of bourgesisie exploition, apartheid, and such of your land has caused for worse living conditions for yourself and your peoples?
>>2850169>Idealismexplains a lot
>catis he a bobcat
>I read sometimes. Can't tell you what I last read off the top of my head.
>I love fishing.
I like fishing and love salmon but theres always parasites in them so im sad, what kind of fish do you usually catch
>>2850173no she is a persian-angora mix
>>2850127Thanks but I feel like the sharty was always garbage since the start
>>2850187I read Marx and Satan once
>>2850187Hegel mogsss marx so hard
>>2850189Actual retard Hegel would’ve agreed with Marx
>>2850185Read Marx Lenin Stalin Mao hoxha and Hegel you’ll realize that it’s not da joooz but the bourgeoise
>>2850193>>2850185read trotsky not stalin tho
>>2850193I am against corporations, billionaires and some millionaires btw, if that matters
>>2850186It wasn't. And it still isn't! But that's not the topic of the thread. Uhhh Karl Marx won? Is the consensus around here? I dunno, I haven't read any of that.
>>2850200Great, now stop believing that somehow Jews/transes/non whites are responsible for everything bad in the world
>>2850200It doesn't
Fuck off and read Marx
>>2850201All you guys do is jerk off to gore and/or raid better websites where people actually want to have a conservation
>>2850206Let people enjoy things
>>2850206I meant conversation fuuuck
Also soyjaks are boring and ruined actual meme culture, now everything is soyjak, chud, chad, or similar, everything is just dumb fucking "hurrrr the people I don't agree with are dumb and ugly", so childish
>>2850209Yeah which is why you should stay in your lane and on your board, and not let yourselves be used as disposable shock troopers by kiwifarms rapists/neonazis
>>2850198Stalin’s socialism in one country moves permanent revolution
>>2850200This
>>2850203 >>2850206>All you guys do is jerk off to goreGore is banned on all boards except one.
>raid better websites where people actually want to have a conservationWe don't raid websites, at least not like we used to.
>Let people enjoy thingsI will be civil.
>soyjaks are boring and ruined actual meme culture, now everything is soyjak, chud, chad, or similar, everything is just dumb fucking "hurrrr the people I don't agree with are dumb and ugly"I don't think they're boring. I think they can be taken way farther than just mocking people you don't like.
>>2850202There's overwhelming evidence for it though
Reading commie manifesto or something rn
>>2850202Im a broke jew with literally nothing why do antisemtics believe we control everything
>>2850223The majority of capitalists are white gentiles you retard, elon is literally a white south african nazi what the fuck are you talking about "whites muh oppressed", idpol garbage
>>2850226I dunno. Beats me.
>>2850228Can i speak here without getting banned?
About stuff like this
>>2850231It depends, will you fuck off and read Marx
>>2850229hmmm maybe because race and ethnities are social constructs and the thing actually dividing society is wealth/class, hmmmmmmmmm
>>2850233all you people do is read marx and discuss theoretical fundamentals while none of you guys actually do any realpolitik
>>2850236Like raiding image boards and posting gore?
>>2850235Maybe. I dunno. I'm not going to make decisions on subjects I know nothing about.
>>2850236>you Dont realpolitikYes we do
>>2850236Where's the proof? Plenty of us do actual activism, this just isn't the right place to talk about it.
>>2850231Depends what you say doesn't it
>>2850231yes you can explain but again your claim is easily dispproven when you have an entire fascist gov (america) controlled by white gentiles, and the entire ruling class is white gentiles
>>2850243What have you activized?
>>2850236Nuswa, there's nothing wrong with discussing that. At least, I don't think so? Is it bad? I dunno. Maybe it could lead to real stuff happening?
>>2850236I regularly attend meetings at the org im apart of irl and organize within my trade union
>>2850233That's what i'm doing right now retard
>>2850249Nothing wrong with marx
>>2850253Can you explain the section you're reading
>>2850251Nice
>>2850245True the swamp is much deeper than mere ethnicity
>>2850255Do dis
>>2850243Activism is also the right thing talk about on this site though
>>2850255something how bourgeois are oppressing proletariat
>>2850259Nice also read works like DSA kapital aswel
>>2850260Which book are you reading Marx Nas like 20+ books/pamphlets
>>2850260Who are the bourgeoisie? Who are the proletariat?
Deport the muslims
>>2850267Bourgeois are really rich people who run soceity(millionaires billionaires trillionaires etc..) and the proletariat are the workers/wage slaves
>>2850272Why are they rich? What is a wage slave?
>>2850269Muslims are nice doe
>>2850272Good start. Hopefully soon you will stop thinking of yourself as Aryan too
>>2850267bourgeoisie are modern capitalists and proletariat are modern wage laborers
>>2850273They are rich due to the exploitation of the working through unfair wages and a wage slavery is a term to describe a worker who works for a wage
>>2850276Based. My best friend is one alhimdullah
>>2850277I use aryan as a catch All term for good
>>2850278What's a capitalist? What's a wage labourer? What separates them?
>>2850279How do they exploit the working class through wages?
>>2850222I literally went on your site ten mins ago and saw some gore shit with a half-assed blur over it.
And currently we are being raided by you guys. You are being more polite now but you guys were just spamming 2 hours ago.
Maybe soyjaks could be taken further in theory but 99% of the time they aren't
>>2850282A capitalist is someone who owns capital and wage laborer is someone who works for a wage and they exploit the working class by not giving them their full labors wirtt(labor theory value is the theory that value is determined by labor)
>>2850281That's kinda spooked. What makes Aryans good
>>2850286There seen by everyone as good and that’s how people use term
>>2850287
That's interesting, now fuck off and read Marx
>>2850284This is not a raid lol
>>2850287
No socialist will be ever be able to infiltrate the capitalist system
>>2850292Just a friendly visit
>>2850288At least 90% of the world doesn't use the term at all
And many people like me instantly assume someone is a Nazi when they start talking about Aryan this and that
>>2850150Containment boards and threads just breed more of what they're supposed to "contain"
>>2850287
no? The working class is united by their struggle, read malcom X
>>2850292Well like I said maybe now it isn't but an hour or two ago you guys were just spamming CP and idpol shit
>>2850298it wasnt one of us tho
>>2850295Aryan is an term used by linguists
Wikipedia: I do-European also known as ARYAN
>>2850299Ok, I have no proof you guys posted the CP but the anti trans jaks, you're really gonna claim that isn't one of your guys?
>>2850300Yes I'm aware but nobody says that outside an academic or nazi context
>>2850298Y'all commies always make shit up, this never happened (like hecking holodomor or whatever your books say)
>"LOL D WHITE RACE R BASED"
>"FUCK COMMIES, NAZIS RULE"
<This isn't a raid, we're being civil. Please respect us.
>>2850304Bro on your website there's literally a topic telling people to raid leftypol
>>2850298stop it
The soyteens are retarded but its not them spamming cp, its the neo-nazi foodists that do that
>>2850304There was no CP or weird shit, we aren't like you
>>2850284>I literally went on your site ten mins ago and saw some gore shit with a half-assed blur over it. Where? If it's on pol, then yeah. That's expected, as that's the one board where gore is allowed. If it's not, please notify me so it can be dealt with.
>And currently we are being raided by you guys. You are being more polite now but you guys were just spamming 2 hours ago. Maybe that's happening. I cannot control what others do. I'm sorry. I will be as polite as I can, I understand I'm a visitor here.
>Maybe soyjaks could be taken further in theory but 99% of the time they aren'tThey already have been taken further than their original purpose. We barely use them to mock people any more, and more and more people have abstracted the soyjak to fit many different needs. Anything can be a soyjak now.
>>2850305I think the raid has died out
>>2850302I don’t think anybody even the most devout Sharty defender is denying the anti-trans jaks
>>2850310>Anything can be a soyjak now.Including you
>>2850313Like a cartoon character?
>>2850303Everybody does just go on Facebook xitter instagram or whatever normie app/my grandmother uses this app and you’ll find everybody calling each other aryan
why some people say read the book instead of teaching the idea? isnt it same as a muslim saying read Koran in a discussion/debate, why do you guys have dogmas?
>>2850311Soyteens are very hyprocrtitical, they have pedo foodists surroundint their site, and even their admin quote enabling pedos, but then they accuse trans people of being the same just because they are trans
>>2850307Wtf is a foodist
>>2850310Look you seem ok I guess but there's some real sickos on your website. I just find it crazy that soyjaks are treated as your entire hobby or reason for discussing, it's like if I made a trollface forum or something
>>2850320They are transphobic doe even most soyteens Dont like quote
>>2850321Your life must be enjoyable
>>2850316Bro idk, I do not see people calling each other Aryan except ironically or whatever
>>2850311Well you gotta tell it to your buddy over there.
>>2850322foodist is a fail troll Nazi pedophile who are the most desperate capitalists(willing to enact satanism to stop da commies)
>>2850317Honestly I personally don't mind trying to "teach the idea" but it does get tiresome sometimes
I like leftypol cuz people actually care to put effort into their posts and ppl here actually do stuff irl.
Also no weird porn or pedos (at least when jannies are doing their work)
>>2850328Never heard of him
>>2850332It’s a movement/group/ideologysomething
>>2850331I wish weird porn was allowed : ( but otherwise thank you
>>2850334Are you talking about o9a? you will get banned for just mentioning it
>>2850336No Theres multiple tiny pedophile Nazi fail troll groups out there foodist is just one of them they also tend to be feds
>>2850320>they have pedo foodists surroundint their siteKeyword: surrounding. All foodists (horrible people who post horrible stuff) get 'nished as soon as they start showing their true colors.
>and even their admin quote enabling pedosMarge? When did this happen? And even then, the average user vehemently hates Quote.
>but then they accuse trans people of being the same just because they are transAgain, this is a small percentage of our userbase. Its a soyjak website, first and foremost. Not some "right-wing chudzone" as people say, although the nuswas are trying real hard.
>>2850322>but there's some real sickos on your website.Yes. And they will be dealt with.
>I just find it crazy that soyjaks are treated as your entire hobby or reason for discussingIt isn't that crazy when you think of it more as a place to create art. Even then, soyjaks aren't really the main topic most of the time. You can talk about whatever you want.
>>2850324>Your life must be enjoyableIt very much is. Thank you for checking up on me.
Sorry, I don't mean to be this big "sharty defender", there's just so many misconceptions, and it makes me sad. The Rich are bad or something, there.
>>2850338No. I'm a communist and also a furry LGBT freak, I'm not ashamed of it
>>2850329Yea but isn't activism essentially teaching the working class the ideas of your ideology? I'm sure doing it online gets tiresome, but it should be your job to do it. Instead, I think most leftists,or 'internet leftists',are insufferable ego masturbators who are only trying to look morally correct and in an echo group without self-criticization. I normally have left-leaning views but seeing them, i dont call myself left
>>2850342Commies also need to understand that we hate the satanic rich pedos too
>>2850346We simply notice that a certain group of people is the majority of the evil ones and does the most evil
>>2850346Who are the rich satanic pedos? give me analysis of them and why there here
>>2850343why are you larping as a communist?
We know who you are nusoicaca
>>2850347Notice the keyword majority it’s all bourgeois that are the problem not some or most but all
Nusois google surplus value, you are being robbed by CEOs who don't contribute their labour and just take the profit from yours
>>2850350doesnt evilizing bourgeois hinder a revolution? I thought revolution cant happen without bourgeois support
>>2850355its called a proletriat revolution, not a bourgesisie revolution, theres a reason for that
>>2850355The revolution is against the bourgeois that’s class collaborationism
>>2850350They are in the most high ranking positions and basically run the economy and own the banks
in communism there will be state mandated girlfriends
>>2850362Not really it’s the whiteys that are in power(which makes sence because they are a majority) like Elon musk trump Beto’s etc…
>>2850361I’ll extend the olive branch…to an extent
>>2850364fellas, is communism the direct remedy to incelhood?
Why dont nusoicacas just move to leftypol, just ask jannies on
>>>/meta/ they actually listen to the users unlike quote
>>2850371Camels are the most proletriatian animals, they walk kms without water
>>2850366We are against these too btw
And no it's not just "whiteys" most white people are under them
>>2850376You're welcome
>>2850379I don't know if that's a good or bad thing around here, but I hope its good. I like camels.
>>2850375I will switch from the sharty to leftypol if theres no quote
>>2850380Well yeah the majority of people white in the west so it makes sense that the oppressors and oppressed are both majority white
>>2850385nobody believes your bait
>>2850392maybe make a new UK thread or move to USApol this thread is full
>>2850388even though the jews are a minority they are majority if not all of the most high ranking elites, they are on the very top, many of them are hiding
>>2850395you can use the catalog and talk on a thread on a topic you like, USApol is best because barely anyone stays on topic
>>2850387>>2850395Make a thread for soycucks in /siberia/
>>2850398Not the majority
>>2850401Whatever you say commie
>>2850398thats wrong theres a small amount of jewish billionaires compared to gentile billionaires man, israel is the only place where jews control, and the only reason israel exists is because the US loves supporting white etnostates to destablize leftist powers
>>2850401Who is, according to you, at the top?
>>2850405Communism is based doe
>>2850409Do you support Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot & other mass murderers?
>>2850413Yes except pol pot and they weren’t mass murderers
>>2850416They were
Even if the massive genocides were not supposed to happen, they did, which proves Communism does not work
>>2850415Elon musk Larry page Jeff bezos Sergei brin Micheal dell mark zuckerburg the swamp is much deeper than one mere ethnicity
>>2850419Not all of them are at the top and it's not about being ethnically Jewish btw
>>2850425True though the people are the richest people so they are at the top
>>2846364Unironically, do something about BAP and the entire modern "dissident right" practically collapses in on itself overnight
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