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>>2841647 Trump is a 4D chess master. Turns out Q was right.
>>2843682
CPUSA is controlled by glowies everyone with a brain understands this. They shill for Democrats. They attack every nation in the crosshairs of American imperialism. They disavow all actions besides vooooooooting for the next Democrat.
Our resident CPUSAnon has spent years randomly trying to rehabilitate fascists like Mosley, Hitler, ᴉuᴉlossnW, Franco, and many others, like he was trying to test talking points on how to convert Communists into becoming Fascists.
The whole party is corrupted and needs to be destroyed if Americans ever want to achieve socialism.
>>2843671
>stop being bombed and iranian ordinary people stop being starved by yank sanction
<they benefitted from being bombed because they stopped being bombed
?????
Laughing thinking about how demoralised CIA is now knowing they'll never militarily confront and contain China. They must know it's over.
>>2843694The American Century of Humiliation has officially begun. So what cities get turned into BRICS+ treaty ports?
>>2843694These kinds of people can keep thinking they'll win even in the Fuhrerbunker. They will come up with another plan, then another, each more insane than the last, until the government itself shits the bed and there are no resources to keep them around anymore. I hope they don't chimp out in some big way because to each individual it makes more sense to simply pretend to do something and steal resources, but you never know.
Venezuela and Syria are gone now. Ukraine is being destroyed because of America. It's supremely stupid to think they are out of cards when they have succeeded several times very recently. Indonesia could be the next card? They have announced "strategic cooperation" with America recently.
>>2843652Decades in weeks
>>2843714In any case I guess we'll know tomorrow when they sign the deal or dont sign it, all that's certain is that they're preparing to throw JD Vance under the bus if it goes south
>>2843714It’s Israel or them essentially
>>2843652This truly is the funniest way this war could have ended
>>2843663obama derangement syndrome needs to be classified as an actual mental illness in the DSM 5.
>>2843714Israel is doing terror campaigns in southern Lebanon for sure, but I’m not sure I would describe it as “demolishing Hezbollah”
>>2843761yeah hezbollah is putting up a much better fight this time around compared to the last israeli invasion. its also likely that the pager bomb operation burned through a lot of the israelis best moles and they might be flying a bit blind on the intelligence front
>>2843764>>2843761It's the classic intractable problem of counterinsurgency, where it doesn't matter how many Hezbollah operatives are killed or how many times they are forced to retreat. They'll inevitably recover and Israel is back to square one.
>>2843761>>2843764Good points. Reporting suggest they only 10 miles past border. Previous zioinvasion into lebanon made it 50 miles past border.
> JD Vance tells Israel “you can’t kill your way out” of security problems. Vance pointed to criticism of the deal from Israeli officials, including far-right ministers Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir. “And I guess my response to them would be: What is your exact proposal? You’re a country of nine million people. You can’t just kill your way out of solving every single national security problem that you have,” he said.
its over
>>2843771>fascists being told they can’t kill their way out of their problems>by another fashAaaahahaha ahahaha oh wow
>>2843694>They must know it's overThis is like Gorbachev's USSR with no one believing in the institutions anymore and the changes being made only backfiring. No victories at home or abroad either. American oligarchs like Peter Thiel and others seem to be taking as much assets as possible before getting out of the burning house. The US empires fall will be a mix of the Soviet collapse and the British one. We simply had our Sinai crashout and officially know that we are washed
>>2843767funny i remember you trying to convince me a long time ago that oct 7 was a net loss for hamas since it led to hezbollah getting 'demolished' after supply lines through syria were cut
>>2843779>The US empires fall will be a mix of the Soviet collapse and the British oneThe united states is too much of a mad house to allow things to go this quietly.
>>2843780Clearly I was wrong, Hezbollah has proven more resilient than I thought and has clearly been able to get weapons from other routes. Still though, Iran was on the backfoot after the loss of Syria, but the Israelis got greedy and overplayed their hand. Now the Iranian position seems stronger than ever.
>>2843780Hezbollah lost more than a thousand soldiers against a few dozens israelites and it's lebanon that is being carpet bombed while Israel doesn't see much action. It's a very lopsided conflict that is military hopeless for hezbollah, their only hope is ironically to be rescued by the americans who could pressure Israel enough. As for hamas they lost most of their leadership and are incapable of striking Israel now even though the zionists routinely breaks the ceasefire to murder their high ranking officers or sacrifice palestinian children. Oh and the fact that the land they rule was razed and a quarter of the proles they lord over were genocided is not a great mark either.
>>2843789October 7 was a strategic victory
>>2843781Yanks are like israel. They dont have option of going quietly because unprecedented decolonial proletarian revolution brewing right underneath them unlike japan british and soviet empires which is why their police ghetto and concentration camp system bigger than fascist germany italy and japan combined.
>>2843795To reformulate, Germany japan italian citizenry all had acute struggles against fascism and therefore real potential of fascism going quietly in their nation like in italy when italians killed ᴉuᴉlossnW. The great satan seem to lack this.
The US state cant even best a bunch of ANTIFA dropouts and liberals in Minneapolis, what makes anyone sincerely believe the US state is going to win any counter-insurgency or conflict with more complex actors, or an actual, standing military with nations behind them? I'm not even being sarcastic, the US DHS put every single agency into Minneapolis, and they still couldn't avoid being tracked by jobless leftists. All they could muster up was a few political conspiracy charges that came after the fact, even when they decided to get lethal on anarchists and their friends, it just led to activating every other leftist into calling for a general strike. Reports that DHS agents weren't ready to go through with "killing leftist citizens" were coming out by the dozen, and morale was at an all time low by the end of winter. The empire is going to start falling apart internationally, as the old liberal order gets phased out and attacked domestically. RIP
>>2843789>It's a very lopsided conflict that is military hopeless for hezbollahNo, it's hopeless for Israel. Their strategic goals are completely unachievable because Hezbollah has proven time and time again that it can simply rearm, regroup, and keep fighting. It's pretty much impossible to defeat an insurgency with armed force alone. Wars are won or lost based on political outcomes, not the number of people killed on either side.
>>2843809>its hopeless for the USA and IsraelRight now you see the west falling, and their forces scrambling, becoming paranoid among friends, and divisions growing. You see everyone deciding whether to choke their allies or jump ship. The western hegemony is dying, dead, gone.
>>2843814This is really the USA's Adrianople, the last humilation before the decline, a middle power defeated the USA, with barely any international support.
Think of all the major US defeats.
Vietnam and Afghanistan won by tiring out the American public.
Here Iran won, because Trump had no more cards to play, the killing of the leaders didn't cause a revolution, and a land invasion was impossible. While Iran could set the world economy's on fire.
So eventually Trump backed down and accepted Iran's demands after a few months.
When was the last time the USA had been so humbled ?
>>2843795>Yanks are like israel. yes but much older.
>They dont have option of going quietly because unprecedented decolonial proletarian revolution brewing right underneath them Unfortunately I see nothing in the prison system or the reservation system brewing like that. Multipolarity, sure but that's offshore.
>unlike japan british and soviet empiressoviet empire? Nor sure how I feel about that phrase ronald reagan. but japanese and british absolutely had colonies. and japan also has internal colonized peoples, like the Ainu.
>which is why their police ghetto and concentration camp system bigger than fascist germany italy and japan combined.yes we have more prisoners per capita than any other country, and they are disproportionately colonized peoples, but I see nothing like revolution coming out of the prison system. even if every prisoner became a hardened MLM tomorrow, it would still be difficult to pull off even a limited success.
>>2843826I must disagree. The concentration camp jails and prisons are overfilled with ICE captives. The federal budget is threatened with default every 4 months. Inflation is rampant. Homeless people crowd the streets. Being in amerikan concentration camp is fastest way for yank to be Communist. Ho Chi Minh became Communist in prison
>>2843830I wasn't speaking about whether prisons make people communist, they certainly can. I was speaking about whether people in the american prison system are capable of pulling off a revolution. that would require several simultaneous successful prison breaks from max security prisons. even if such a thing were both possible and succesful, it is not clear whether it would snowball into anything beyond that. Rome had 3 servile wars started by slaves, but all of them were crushed. The Haitian Revolution was successful, but largely because the French were busy with their own revolution/civil war, and once the Thermidor reaction happened and Napoleon was emperor, and tried to re-enslave Haiti, he found it prohobitively expensive to keep sending reinforcements all the way to Haiti, across the atlantic ocean. Our prison revolt would be less like Haiti, and more like Rome's servile wars.
>>2843830
>Being in amerikan concentration camp is fastest way for yank to be Communist.nah - knowing the average american they're probably just gonna become more reactionary and blame their problems on some minority group instead
>>2843764>>2843767>>2843768Yeah, like it seems Israel is contenting itself to just mass bombing because extensive ground operations will result in intolerable casualties. I don’t think they can really settle the land either so I’m guessing their military strategy amounts at best to forcing southern Lebanon to resemble no man’s land in WW1; just uninhabitable for human life.
What I think will be interesting is how Trump handles Israel’s fascist death spiral. Israel got everything it wanted but now Trump wants out, so will they do something insane like Nuke Lebanon or try to bomb water purification plants? The closer things get to a peace deal the more they’ll have to act out to poison the well.
>>2843819>When was the last time the USA had been so humbled ?9/11, all under the nose of their glowies by a guy they previously financed, the event that made their population psychotic
>>2843818<there is no alternativeGhoulish
>>2843818>If even I, an implacable opponent of the president, can accept this as the best option, then surely others can too?Is Hillary Rowdy Rodham Clinton the most narcissistic person on the planet? I guess maybe only second to Trump.
What is Trump's Gaza plan now anyways? The Israeli riviera thing still or what?
>>2843781They were surprisingly peaceful in Beijing. Westoids don't even bother posting their scary wojaks about the three gorges dam anymore. You overstate how much any of these people care, the easy option of just taking all money and fucking off is always here and they are taking it.
>>2843839trotsky was brat
>>2843652The US destroyed the actual Babylon with Persian help howeverbeit
Is it over for the accelerationists?
>>2843842well 2/3rds of the prisoners are minorities. Of 1.2 million imprisoned in 2023 (most recent national statistics I could find), 370,500 were white, but the rest were black (394,500), hispanic (282,700), Amerindian (19,700) or Asian (15,200). Of course the vast majority (1.1 million) were male. So a prison revolt, especially in a country like the USA that leases convict labor, is much closer to something historically like the three slave wars of rome. But rewinding a bit… yes, you are right ethnic tensions are brewed between these groups. That's why prison gangs are racially coded, and the prison guards mostly white just like the cops. So… how do you get prisoners to put aside their ethnic/religious differences? That's the first step. The second step is how do you get prisoners to actually revolt? These are maximum security prisons, and the prisons are numerous with no contact between them. You would really need a revolutionary force outside of the prisons to already have the ball rolling, to take out the guards, bust down the walls, arm and organize the prisoners. It sounds more like fantasy than something that is likely in the near future.
>>2843902He’s been screeching about this for a while now, it’s unlikely to happen. The only way I can see it happening is if he somehow scares the congressional GOP
>>2843902>dumocratshe lost the sauce.
you've heard of democratic party entryism but yall ain't not readdy for my new radical strat: republican party entryism
>>2843909MAGACom is already old hat at this point.
>>2843913Her voice is so grating. Even tho Bill cheated on her, I think everyone is like: "We get it." Funny how one of the most charismatic presidents of all time is married to one of the most uncharismatic presidential candidates of all time.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ShrillaryThere's something about her voice that just reminds you of a certain really annoying White lady of a certain generation that you probably had a couple of bad experiences with in your life. Kinda like the Karen archetype. It's dumb, but I remember the first time I was really aware of her at all was back when she was senator and she was spearheading the "Hot Coffee Mod" investigations in congress.
>>2843919
>if you don’t support Hillary you’re far right
Damn so when do you start sucking my dick? Cause you never miss an opportunity to call the IDF, Fuentes, and Trump “to the left”
>>2843924They are all to the left of you, Myles, and you know it too.
>>2843928There's a factory waiting for you Felix
>>2843779>The US empires fall will be a mix of the Soviet collapse and the British one.You forgot Yugoslavia. There's no way America collapses without wars and genocide.
>>2843940
>is a “communist”
>too scared to break the law
At best youre just a social democrat that thinks bad language makes him revolutionary
>>2843939>left-wing>moralityare there still people who fall for this shit
>he’s STILL AT IT
Oh my god you pathetic loser
>>2843945
>it’s illegal to resist Nazi Germany
>if you ask me to resist the Nazis you’re trying to get me in trouble!
<somehow still thinks he’s a communist
You worry about the law so much cause you’re a socdem
>>2843663>"our National Park Service team is now vacuuming up the dead algae resting on the bottom of some parts of the Reflecting Pool—just like the destroyed Iranian Navy resting on the bottom of the Persian Gulf"Riiiight, about that….
>“The nanobubble technology has been tested and validated by the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), The Ohio State University and The University of Florida,” the spokesperson added.intellectually disabled broccoli heads at DOGE:
<"durr why would anyone need to research freshwater algae??? Freshwater doesn't contain algae you morons. We need to cut these pointless research grants so our Epstein cabal can become trillionairies">>2843701>Indonesia could be the next cardthe Zoomer brainrot Color Revolutions will continue until the morale of One Piece fans improves
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/06/05/soros-osf-indonesian-insurrection-leaks/ >>2843907He's already primaried a bunch of them so idk how he can scare them? It could happen in the next congress tho
Israeli foreign agent took over The Charlie Kirk Show days after his killing
https://thegrayzone.com/2026/06/18/israeli-foreign-agent-charlie-kirk-show/
>“My husband isn’t here to say whether or not we should be at war with Iran,” Erika Kirkreally dark and sinister in context of the conspiracy theories
>To date, there is no evidence that the state of Israel was responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Yet it is undeniable that Kirk’s killing removed one of the greatest obstacles to Israel’s plans to compel Trump to launch a massive regime change war on Iran. >As The Grayzone reported, Kirk was the only figure in Trump’s inner circle to personally appeal to the president against committing US forces to Israel’s 12-day-long assault on Iran in June 2025. Trump “barked” at Kirk for his disobedience, according to a source, and angrily dispatched him. Days later, Trump ordered US airstrikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, setting the stage for Operation Epic Fury the following year. This account has since been confirmed by Vice President J.D. Vanceadding Charlie Kirk to the list of Operation Epstein Fury martyrs
https://xcancel.com/RepThomasMassie/status/2058252070856036497<.@grok, is it true that the Charlie Kirk Show is now distributed by a registered foreign agent of Israel?"I am disgusted by these antisemitic tweets about Israeli agents" - AOC reciting words from her handler Matt Duss
>>2843809>No, it's hopeless for Israel. Their strategic goals are completely unachievable because Hezbollah has proven time and time again that it can simply rearm, regroup, and keep fighting. Lebanon has always been too much for Israel. In the 1980s they drove all the way to Beirut, besieged the city with artillery, and the PLO eventually agreed to leave for exile in Tunisia, and then Israel stayed in the south until 2000. But Hezbollah could just kill an Israeli soldier here, blow up a jeep there, in drips and drabs over the years until the Israelis got sick of it. It contributed to a real collapse in morale that Israeli military historians write about. And Hezbollah was a ragtag group that didn't have FPVs then.
>>2843943>Adam Louis-Klein Lol yeah he's supposed to be their new wunderkind who will use the left's social theories against them! Watch out, he has a degree in cultural anthropology.
>>2843939>The Atlanticlol
>Kleinlol
>>2843971And Vance just wrote in his book Kirk was concerned about the influence of Israel on American politics and how it was turning right-wingers into antisemites.
https://jewishpostandnews.ca/uncategorized/in-new-book-jd-vance-says-charlie-kirk-warned-him-about-antisemitism-on-the-right/
>In Communion: Finding My Way Back to Faith, Vance recounts a conversation with conservative activist Charlie Kirk months before he was fatally shot, in which they spoke about two trends Kirk was observing among young conservatives.
>“The first was that they were very angry about Israeli influence in American politics,” Vance writes about the phone call in the summer of 2025. “The second was that some were going from legitimate disagreement with the Israeli government to antisemitism.”
>According to Vance, Kirk told him that many younger conservatives believed the United States was allowing Israel too much sway over American foreign policy. Vance quotes Kirk as saying that for some, “that concern is turning to anger, and even Jew hatred.” >>2843979>stoke bigotry for a living>worried your movement is becoming too bigoted wdhmbt
>>2843979>>2843981I think the chief contradiction in the Right at present is whether Jews count as “white”
>>2843990Modern jews are Schrödingers white. All the streghts of white imperialist and all the victim buffs of non-whiteness. It's why the bad jews are so dangerous.
>>2843971Nah I still think Kirk was supposed to be Trump's Kristallnacht but they dropped the ball so hard trying to sell this to the american public
>>2843951DNCPUSA plays games with words. They never come out and say plainly "We endorse KKKillary KKKlinton" because they are cowards. Rather then just force their cadres to support her anyway but avoid the official endorsement. It's functionally the same thing while avoiding taking any real political stance.
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>>2844064Embarrassing how it was beautiful and the White House promoted it as Usonian Civilization coming back meanwhile it now looks like a swamp a day later. Absolute state of the dying empire
>>2844071Honestly the capital should have been moved to Chicago a long time ago.
>>2844069Breaking the law for the sake of it is incredibly stupid and the only person who would suggest doing it is either an anarchist or a cop. Not that there's much difference.
>>2844034>haven't materialized into death campshttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg73l2d079koAre you sure?
>>2844075I wonder if all these people drive without a license too. I bet they begged the big bad government for permission to drive a car.
>>2844075Remember kids! Officer Felix says: in America we’re a free country! You’re allowed to believe whatever you want, but the second those views involve committing crimes or trying to overthrow the government you cross the line into CRIME! Criminals go to JAIL!
Don’t throw your life away, follow the law!
What's the latest from Houdini?
>>2843943>Jewish forms of peoplehoodScreaming, the state of yank social sciences
>>2844075People wouldn't have an issue with it if he didn't run his mouth about how we all need to start doing terrorism immediately and anybody who doesn't is a Nazi.
>>2844094Specifically, WE have to. He needs to wait in the background until enough people die for him to use their corpses as cobblestones
>>2844094>>2844096And if he really doesn’t like you he’ll be annoying and claim he’s doing socialist magic to get you to kill your self
>>2843937The 2030s is going to be a very violent time for the USA. It is going to make Yugoslavia and Russia in the 90s look like child's play domestically
>>2844102They are now trying to promote the UK grooming story as a replacement to Epstein and outrage at the Zionist state. That is Israel's last stand is to promote that. Also JD is the fall guy if it doesn't work out
>>2844102> Why they suddenly turning against PiSSraHHell?They're not really turning against Israel unless they're ready to lose their most important attack dog in the middle east - they're just making a scapegoat for PR purposes.
>>2843685They were once controlled by glowies but idk of that’s the case anymkre. They seem way too weak to be of any usage by the feds… I’ve met some of them and tbf they seemed ok despite you being right about the shilling for dems thjng
>>2844101Assuming total societal collapse here (which, I dunno, part of me doubts) my game plan is to try to form some sort of community defense brigades, or at the least get people talking to each other so we don’t all starve to death.
>>2844102kayfabe. tactical retreat.
>>2843818>>2843861>>2843867>>2843827>>2843856one thing: when libs knock at your door telling you they are not like trump, use this as a receipt to tell them that by voting by their favorite lib, you are replacing trump, with trump.
100% guaranteed meltdowns.
>>2844102>>2844112charade. they could cut funding, they could sanction zionistland. they don't, they won't.
wake me up when they do so.
>>2843818https://archive.ph/EcvmVThe article without paywall
https://old.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/1u9ez83/ft_the_world_may_not_like_trumps_gaza_plan_but/neoliberaloids arguing about it on reddit
the text:
The world may not like Trump’s Gaza plan — but there is no alternativeIf even I, an implacable opponent of the president, can accept this as the best option, then surely others can too?The writer is a former US secretary of state and professor of international and public affairs at Columbia SIPA
There is a particular kind of diplomatic paralysis that sets in when governments decide that the perfect is the enemy of the possible. I have seen it before in the Balkans, in Northern Ireland and in the Middle East itself. And I see it again now, as Europe and many of its traditional partners approach the Board of Peace and the Trump administration’s 20-point plan for Gaza with the studied scepticism of those who believe they can afford to wait. But we cannot. None of us can.
There is no alternative framework waiting in the wings. No rival coalition is quietly preparing a more viable proposal. The 20-point plan is not the one many of us would have drafted, but it remains the only framework backed by sufficient leverage, political engagement and potential resources to move the parties towards implementation. It has been reinforced through a UN Security Council resolution and further advanced by the roadmap from Nickolay Mladenov and the Board of Peace (which seeks to link reconstruction and governance transition to the dismantling of Hamas’s military infrastructure and longer-term stabilisation in Gaza). Without such a plan, the crisis in Gaza will only deteriorate, with Hamas retaining both political and practical influence over a devastated population through armed actors, local administrative structures, aid distribution networks and access to basic goods and services. Reconstruction frozen. Investment absent. Civilians trapped in dependency and despair, with reportedly up to 1,000 killed since the ceasefire. Another generation of children growing up amid rubble, fear and hopelessness. There will be no security for Israel. No viable path to Palestinian self-determination.
Gazans understand this as well as anyone: without demilitarisation and a transition away from Hamas rule, there will be no meaningful reconstruction, no realistic prospect that Israel will ever withdraw from the 60 per cent of the Gaza Strip it now controls and no credible pathway towards a future led by Palestinians themselves.
In recent months, international attention has understandably drifted elsewhere. But treating Gaza as secondary is a profound strategic mistake. An unresolved Gaza does not remain contained — it fuels instability across the region. The longer it stays as it is, the more difficult any future political solution becomes. Prolonged paralysis weakens moderate voices, deepens instability and further entrenches realities that will become harder to reverse with time. The Board of Peace and the plan contain elements many governments dislike or disagree with. Some are uneasy with the political sequencing, sceptical of provisions on Palestinian governance and representation, or wary of placing trust in an American-led framework at a moment when confidence in US leadership has eroded. Many are understandably sceptical of an approach so closely associated with Donald Trump. I understand that scepticism, and share some of it. Yet if even I, an implacable opponent of President Trump, can accept that this is the best option in a terrible situation, then surely others can too? This moment calls for a greater sense of collective responsibility from Europe, regional partners and the broader international community. Disengagement will not produce a more acceptable alternative. Strip away the rhetoric and the 20-point plan offers something that, not long ago, many believed was unattainable: an active diplomatic framework backed by meaningful US leverage and sustained engagement from the administration.
And what I have heard from Palestinians, especially those living in or connected to Gaza, is that they want a path out of perpetual crisis, just as many Israelis desire greater security and the dismantling of Hamas’s military infrastructure. Those realities should matter as the international community considers whether to engage or stand aside, because a genuine transformation in Gaza is essential not only for stabilisation and security but also for reunifying Palestinians politically under a reformed and credible leadership. For too long, fragmentation between Gaza and the West Bank, along with the weakening of the Palestinian Authority, has made the prospect of a unified Palestinian political future seem increasingly remote. Meaningful change in Gaza is essential if there is to be any chance of a more durable political resolution. The process will require pressure and engagement not only from Arab states and Europe but from Israel as well. The Israeli government cannot indefinitely support the broad goals of stabilisation and normalisation while delaying the difficult decisions necessary to move the process forward. Critically, international engagement with the Board of Peace and the plan should not be understood as deference to any one party but as a means of creating collective pressure on all parties to engage seriously and in good faith.
The gleeful anticipation of failure is not just unhelpful. It is strategically self-defeating. The Board of Peace is an improbable vehicle, and the 20-point plan leaves many legitimate concerns unresolved. Governments will continue to disagree with important elements of both. But diplomacy rarely offers a choice between good options and bad ones. The international community cannot claim concern for Palestinian civilians while refusing to engage with the only mechanism currently capable of shifting conditions on the ground. Nor can we continue pretending that paralysis is a neutral position. It is not. Delay has consequences. The choice for governments is not whether this process is ideal. It is whether they are prepared to help shape an imperfect framework from within or stand aside while more destructive actors shape what comes next.
>>2844102he's about to get anally raped by AIPAC and zionist media for the next 60 days LMAO. He's cooked; republican voters are sheep, JD is the next Massie.
>>2844112>RethugliKKKans are going to take an anti-zionist stance before the DemonKKKrats LMFAOOOOwell the same thing happened with the war on terror. bush did GWOT, but then obama continued it, and trump pretended to be against it.
republicans always set the tone, democrats always steer the ship. they work together
>>2844118onion buying infowards feels kinda tryhard imo. it's just gonna be another lib culture war thing like the daily show or even worse, just gonna be a sarcastic meme dungeon that chuds react to with "this but unironically"
>>2844127 (not me)
>worthy mentions:-passive use of voice 'die' (Palestinians spontaneously 'die').
-entraps the conversation into righteousness (israel is the righteous option).
-ignores that the are already institutions that can work with reparations like the UN, with a more amicable approach that includes Palestinians. (of course the us blocks Palestine participation).
tl;dr: conwoman, conning:
>>2844115 (me)
as I said, hammer-shove this down any libs' throats. the left in the us needs to force a change on libs, libs can't force the real left to change.
>>2844128>60 dayswell, Iran cancelled the deal. so he saved face. they knew what they were doing.
>>2844127Fuck hilldawg and all that; but all this is is too many words to be saying a bad plan is better than no plan. Which is not really an incorrect thing to say.
Of course what it's not mentioning is Israel is not a good faith partner in anything, they do not want to follow any "plans" or "peace", they just want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians in any way possible so it's useless to evaluate how good or bad any plans are because none of the steps of Trump's plan will be accomplished because if they actually improved things for the Palestinian Israel would not do them, the Israeli government has come out and said this.
>>2844145she posted that article to arrange the discourse around and inside the democrats, and their partners around the world.
it's not for us, regular people to consume. it's a direct order, a re-alignment, masqueraded as an oped.
similar like those neocon thinktank and conservative thinktanks pieces, that are an order or a re-alignment announcement for the gop and the republican party.
she knows what's coming, and she is laying down the public debate guidelines for their acolytes. you won't see libs pushing back at all to what the trump regime did (they haven't pushed back, prolly they were waiting for prominent party leadership to set out the rules); like rachel maddow, david pakman, ari melber; they were all waiting for these guidelines, and now that they don't have it, it's sealed-tight matter: trump's regime alternative is the way to go.
Speaking of Clinton; I just remembered she will never be president of the US almost solely and entirely because she voted to kill tens of thousands of Iraqis. It's a nice thing to think about some times.
>>2844152>they were all waiting for these guidelines, and now that they don't have itthey have it*
fuck my brain.
Hilldawg is right, what else could trump do? Do the zionists and neocons want ground troops and an invasion, all for israel?
Not going to happen.
>>2844152correct
>>2844153fell for demscum kayfabe award
>>2844153again, this is a nothingburger because the u.s won't dare to lose their attack dog in the middle east. i'll eat my socks if capital willingly alienates itself from profit expansion
Lmao there's a serious chance the U.S just accepted that its fucking over and that China won.
The problem is that I'm south american and the U.S is about to rape us bad.
>>2844156Dude, the Iraq war killed probably a million people.
>An estimated 3.6-3.8 million people have died indirectly in post-9/11 war zones, bringing the total death toll to at least 4.5-4.7 million and counting.>At least 940,000 people have died due to direct war violence, including civilians, armed forces on all sides, contractors, journalists, and humanitarian workers.https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/findings>>2844153> I just remembered she will never be president of the USI'm sad sleepy Joe got to be president otherwise we could've had a perfect score of people who voted for Iraq not being president.
>>2844161amy klobuchar is a bloodthirsty vampire. she and lindsay graham traveled together to ukraine in december 2016 to announce to poroshenko's thugs that 2017 would be the year of war against russia. fortunately orange retard refused to fund ukraine during his first term, which led to the russiagate scandal. everyone has amnesia about this.
>>2844153aipac out, jstreet in
>>2844153whenever you hear shit like this or for example graham platners commitment to no longer funding israel, remember that USA and Israel have effectively fused their military now. so USA legislators will no longer have to explicitly vote for funding Israel
>>2844152I guess but that's fucking stupid. She literally admits that the status quo is destabilizing in that op-ed what is the point of telling mouthpieces they need to show critical support for the Trump plan when it hasn't changed the situation at all and obviously won't?
>>2844165You're right anon, I didn't want to overestimate and look like a dummy…
>>2844172correct and materialismpilled
Anybody got a good essay on the buildup to the 2020 burgerkrieg?
>>2844161To be honest there’s not too many issues with the statement itself beyond the fact the Dems would never spend that money on homelessness and healthcare and that functionally the war should be ended and bitching about the incompetence of the peace deal rather than the psychosis of imperial warmongering/the war itself is vile.
Still as a political statement its effective.
>>2844178>Still as a political statement its effective.no, if examined carefully. only for the dumb people:
from 2021 to 203 dems held the presidency, the house and the senate. why didn't they simply steal the funds by then (she was a senator)?
see? gold fish people, the feeble-minded, feel vibrantly moved by that imbecile statement.
me? I see dems working hard to get trump eternally re-elected, worst case scenario, never put the dems in a compromising position, best case scenario; for the upcoming elections.
>>2844174>what is the point of telling mouthpieces they needbecause they can't have headless chickens walking around circles. it's dangerous, and their people can strand far away, plus serves as a teaching bulletpoints for the new meat that replaces the old/rebels.
>>2844127>>2843818I forgot what was in Trump's Board of Peace plan, it says that Hamas will surrender and get amnesty or safe passage out of Gaza. Then Gaza will be run by Tony Blair and occupied by American and Arab forces. I don't know how this would possibly get started, who would be the responsible party on the Palestinian end to even agree?
If you're aware of all the peace proposals and negotiations about the two state solution and all that, you'd know that all of those negotiations seemed a lot closer to finally be implemented but the Israelis will just sabotage it in the end. I think the Israelis seem to be much more hardline since they had their gazillion 9/11s on Oct. 7. Chance of this stupid deal going anywhere in the next 2 years is absolutely zero.
I can't really figure out why Clinton is feeling the need to throw her weight behind it.
>>2844178>To be honest there’s not too many issues with the statement itself For one, this sum isn't coming from the treasury. Trump doesn't have the power to do that and congress wouldn't go along with it. Two, being against the idea that our country doesn't owe reparations to countries we have aggressed against no matter who was in office is bad too.
>>2844181>I can't really figure out why Clinton is feeling the need to throw her weight behind it.because she needs to preemptively cut the discussion's road moving from 'the deal is trash to 'let's put israel in a discomfort zone', like sanctioning, or or cutting funding for israel. therefore:
the perfect is the enemy of the possible.
she could've said that and get a workable deal before bragging about getting gadaffi sodomized by her ultra-rightwing jihad chud brutes.
>>2844182I meant to say whatever his probably fake plan is. If she literally thinks it's coming from the treasury, then that's what she should say:
>Trump requires congressional approval before spending any taxpayer money and I will be voting against it.It's funny how these people act like they're just pundits or something, not one of the top ranking leaders in our country.
>>2844186There are lots of things he can do and a lot he can't. One of them is making $300 billion in cash suddenly appear. It's funny you're calling me naive yet you seriously think he's going to give them $300 billion. I guess it's a good point to troll idiot Trump supporters, but why do we need to lie to ourselves just to feel Trump is pwned.
>>2844188https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/16/politics/trump-obama-iran-moneyIf I was a betting man I would say this won't materialize into anything.
> In an interview with CBS News Monday morning, Vice President JD Vance seemed to tacitly confirm the premise that Iran could be given “access” to a reconstruction fund worth as much as $300 billion.
>Ever since that interview, the administration has strained to clarify things. It has emphasized that this money wouldn’t come from US taxpayers. Instead, it would be money from other Gulf countries that would only be available if Iran complies with a peace deal.
>Vance said late Monday on Fox News that “we would invite other countries — not us, but other countries — to invest in” Iran. He echoed that Tuesday, telling Megyn Kelly that the US wouldn’t let the United Arab Emirates, for example, “invest in Iran, unless the Iranians change their behavior.” >>2844188>>2844188Jesse, the fuck are you talking about?
>what are executive ordersLiterally trump signed god knows how many EOs during covid to not only give safety nets, but expand the ones that were present at the time. He literally can
make money appear out of thin air.
It's insane that we, in 2026, are arguing whether if the executive branch of the us regime can usurp legislative branch functions or not.
>trump serioisness about giving 300 billions to IranThat's another discussion.
>>2844192In all of those he had to get it out of another part of the federal budget.
>In August 2020, following a stalemate in Congress over COVID-19 relief, Trump signed a package of three executive memoranda and one executive order to bypass lawmakers. According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), this package directed or deferred roughly $165 billion in near-term funds:
>Payroll Tax Deferral: Instructed the Treasury to defer employee-side Social Security taxes for workers making under $100,000, totaling up to $100 billion (though most of this was meant to be paid back later).
>Lost Wages Assistance: Redirected $44 billion from FEMA’s Disaster Relief Fund to pay an extra $300 to $400 per week in unemployment benefits.
>Student Loan Deferral: Extended a pause on student loan payments and set interest rates to 0%, deferring roughly $20 billion in expected interest payments.Anyways, the stated plan is also not giving them any money from the budget so it's really all just a silly talking point to dunk on Trump, which I do enjoy, but: A He can't do it, B He's not even saying he is going to do it.
isn't it embarrassing, isn't it fucking cringe, that USA politicians call benjamin netenyahu "bibi"? like he's their boyfriend. yes, i understand that's his nickname idgaf its still embarrassing cringe unprofessional
>>2844200Yes very cringe.
>>2844194So we have to give our treats to rebuild iran. Thats unfair
>>2844194>>2844194>In all of those he had to get it out of another part of the federal budget.And? The point is that EOs can do whatever. And more now with the scotus decision declaring potus untouchable, without criminal liability.
If trump wants he can EOs the 300 billion. Fuck he even EO'd the end of caesar sanctions on syria, with one page of paper and a stroke.
>Anyways, the stated plan is also not giving them any money from the budget so it's really all just a silly talking point to dunk on Trump, which I do enjoy, but: A He can't do it, B He's not even saying he is going to do it.we started here
>>2844161 I clarified that amy 'blizzard' klobuchar's statement makes trump look good (or look too stupid dems) when she points out what she could do with $300bn, but this is framed as if the money comes from a fund that the US regime can use as a budget fund. I said that's stupid because dems could've sized already the frozen funds between 2021-2023 and use it as blizzard moron woman says, and they didn't. So it's a moot point now for democraps.
And again, trump can do it. EO the shit out of the 'where the money comes from'-problem.
And B, vance tacitly admitted they were going to give $300b to Iran. Some anon posted ITT the interview, where vance shrugs and does the admission.
>>2844161I think giving Iran 300 billion is bad tho
>>2844161isnt this $300 billion the iranian frozen assets?
>>2844236>And B, vance tacitly admitted they were going to give $300b to Iran. Some anon posted ITT the interview, where vance shrugs and does the admission.I just pasted the statement in one of the replies.
>>2844189>>2844161Klob is not referencing any seized assets. The USA doesn't control $300 billion in Iranian funds.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/15/what-are-irans-100bn-in-frozen-assets-and-where-are-they-heldWhat are Iran’s $100bn in frozen assets and where are they held?The $300 billion in the plan is a completely new source of money which the Trump admin is saying that the Arabs will invest in Iran in exchange for who knows what. Klob is just being absolutely retarded.
>>2844246>isnt this $300 billion the iranian frozen assets?No, goddamn.
see:
>>2844189 https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/after-over-100-days-of-war-u-s-iran-deal-restores-status-quo/Cpusa seems uncontent and disgruntled with peace, calling it return to status quo despite end of sanctions and the crumbling of yank power and being.
>With the war’s end now being negotiated on terms that mirror the pre-war status quo, the people who absorbed the costs and deaths—in Tehran, in Beirut, in Gaza, and in households across the United States and the world—are left to add up what was gained. So far, the answer for ordinary people looks very much like nothing.Billions of ordinary people gain by witnessing success of iran Revolution's example. Ordinary people gain because imperialism is now weaker. Ordinary people gain because the zios lose.
>>2844257 (me)
This article is most important article cpusa publish in very long time. This article supposed to be happy, but it makes me depressed. Yanks should be dancing in streets like end of ww2, but cpusa provide defeatist and nihilistic bitching and moaning. If ordinary people gained nothing from their own victory against imperialism, then why would ordinary people fight imperialism? They commit vulgar economism by reducing totality of outcome to the imperialist state's "costs" and babylonian gas prices, refusing to recognize neither immediate nor strategic gains for working classes outside babylon.
>>2844189>it would be money from other Gulf countries and the 'other gulf countries' are running pieces, through their embassies, that they aren't doing this. so who's to believe? I don't know.
>>2844262I would sooner trust Trump, Israel, or Iran than trust any of the gulf monarchies. Something you quickly learn if you pay attention to middle east politics is all of them lie constantly as propaganda for their domestic population. They perpetuate this myth of Islamic solidarity to their citizens and then backstab eachother and sell their people out to America constantly.
>>2844257>mirror the pre-war status quoonly if the mirror is a kaleidoscope, no, it isn't, lmao.
>in Tehranif the agreement were to be implemented, Iran gains the skies. like, aren't you seeing zionists melting down? fuck this unmaterialistic analysis shit man. a loss for zionists is a win for humanity.
>>2844260>>2844257They're mad that the US lost the war. They're upset Iran was not annihilated and destroyed and its lands salted. Their goals were not met
hey retards anyone got that image of Stalin where he talks about the cobbler and proletarization
>>2844257>>2844260>>2844282You guys are looking for things to be mad about. The main thrust of the article is that the war was a pointless and unjustified act of aggression that accomplished nothing and went directly against the interests of ordinary people. Look at what it actually says:
<The deal’s celebrated reopening of the strait, in other words, is a return to where things stood before Washington and Tel Aviv chose war—and even that return comes on Iran’s terms. The same goes for the broader picture. Oil exports will resume, but they were already flowing before the war disrupted them. Nuclear negotiations that were already underway will restart.<The war did not produce a settlement that wasn’t already within reach diplomatically. What it produced is a death toll of more than 7,000 people, a global energy shock that’s hit working people hardest of all, and a wrecked Lebanon.<It’s been even worse for workers in other countries, since the U.S. economy has been relatively insulated from many of the war’s costs, so far. The UN’s International Labour Organization says the worst is still to come. The Iran war is “a slow-moving and potentially long-lasting shock that will gradually reshape labor markets,” undermining wages and working conditions worldwide.It sounds to me like they're trying to agitate Americans against the war and military adventurism by pointing out how it fucks over everybody but a small handful of porkies. I know you guys want them to celebrate Iran's victory or something, but frankly that's just not going to land with a US audience and isn't necessary to turn people against imperialist wars.
>>2844257>Cpusa seems uncontent and disgruntled with peace, calling it return to status quothey are correct, until a dotp is established its all status-quo-slop
>>2844327Least Nazi Israeli
>>2844306But I wanna be mad about stuff!
>>2844257300 billion gibs to small iranian capitalists lessss gooo
>>2844326
big if truke
>>2844306that's a delusion take. the article insists that the status quo didn't change. in fact, it's the title of the article itself. it's not about agitating workers, it's a cynical rant that no one won that. in fact, Iran won. their workers won, and there's no other way to put it. and as I said, a loss for zionistland, is a win for the world.
REJOICE.
>>2843949spookiest shit ive ever read lmao
The whole $300 billion thing exposed the complete lack of I.Q. in leftists. Retards genuinely think the US is giving $300 billion for free to Iran.
The money is private investment from private companies all over the world (US, Gulf, Japan, Europe) that will invest in Iranian. They're not investing for free, they're investing to make profit. Capitalism needs destruction to solve the overproduction problem. After the destruction, the rebuilding is where capitalism's profit rate can recover.
This is Iran being brought into the capitalist fold. This is Iran's Gorbachev moment. Iran is never gonna attack Israel again. They will abandon their proxies. The "hardliners" will magically turn into "reformists". For those who don't know, both are like Democrats and Republicans, two heads of the same uniparty that play good cop bad cop on the Iranian people.
The US mowed Iran's lawn and it and its allies all over the world will profit. If they misbehave they will get mowed again, and the reinvestment will happen again. Iran is now a giant West Bank. And this is not something that is imposed on the Iranian govt, it's something that the present existing Iranian govt has agreed to as a mutually beneficial deal.
All of this, of course, assuming that the war just doesn't continue after the depleted oil reserved are re-filled and US missiles are restocked.(Bait used to be believable)
>>2844353You're not the REAL Wrongschizo, get the fuck out of here
>>2844355gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8
>>2844353>Iran won. their workers won, and there's no other way to put it. and as I said, a loss for zionistland, is a win for the world.Okay, but the job of American communists is to agitate American workers against US imperialism and against the war. There's nothing in the article that goes against that, and the points it emphasizes (the war was unjustified aggression and against the interests of working people) is perfectly in line with that goal.
>>2844355>The money is private investment from private companies all over the world (US, Gulf, Japan, Europe) that will invest in Iranian. They're not investing for free, they're investing to make profit. If the goal of the US was just to get Western capital into Iran then they wouldn't have put sanctions on them in the first place. You're conflating equitable trade with imperialist exploitation. America wanted the latter, but Iran has forced it to accept the former. Iran is getting this capital on its own terms, without any strings attached like reducing social spending, cutting labour regulations, privatization, or any of the other requirements that come with something like an IMF loan. This means Iran will actually be able to tax these developments as they see fit, ensure a sufficient proportion of the profits remains in the country, and actually pursue domestic economic development. If you doubt that such a thing is possible, then just look at China. Trade and investment aren't inherently imperialistic if the recipient country retains its sovereignty, and the war reaffirmed the sovereignty of Iran.
>The US mowed Iran's lawn and it and its allies all over the world will profit.Their main regional ally is seething with rage and refusing to cooperate with the peace agreement.
>>2844369
If I didn't know better I'd say it sounds like you're mad that the CPUSA is actually doing what they're supposed to instead of living up to the negative stereotypes.
>>2844363western butthurt. Iran is the largest world factory of western butthurt today. the smell it produces, from of the assholes burning in seethe can be smelled through the halitosic mouths, every time washington/nato politicians and their generals open their mouths, and it's a smell of burning shit.
terribly, Iran pollutes the world with this. this anon is right:
>>2844355, it's a degeneration of overproduction, and Iran must fall for it!
>>2844366>but the job of American communists is to agitate American workers against US imperialism and against the warby claiming that the winners of the war didn't win? this is a common mistake in the western 'left'. there's never a better system for them. even if the us losses against a more formidable adversary, there's no lesson learned here about alternatives to the
status quo they swear they are fighting against.
also, without presenting a plan about that? c'mon, it's a seething rant without any substance. the depth of that article is rain puddle deep.
>more daytime CPUSAanon discourse
at least that knob-end has a fucking job. Pondering CPUSAnon is some of yous version of Jerry Springer.
>>2844387>by claiming that the winners of the war didn't win?That's not really relevant Anon. What they need their audience to understand is first, that the war was an act of imperialist aggression, and second, that this is against the interests of American workers.
>it's a seething rantYeah? The point is to get Americans angry at their government for waging a stupid war of aggression that only harmed working people. It's agitprop.
>>2844358Mm, yes, more imperial humiliation please
>>2844400>acknowledging that there are better alternativesThe CPUSA talks about and promotes those alternatives all the time, but it's not relevant here because Iran isn't offering such an alternative. It's a capitalist country Anon, what "alternative" does their victory promote?
>I guess people will get mad, see the system is imperfect but it's ok, because there's nothing better and move on, spiraling into cynicism, then reactionary contrarianismThat's a massive extrapolation. The article doesn't say or imply that no alternative is possible, it's simply focusing on how the war is contrary to the interests of American workers because that's what will resonate with them.
>>2844407
>Do you really think you get a 401k or insurance because you earned it?
I don't have either of those things.
>Iran isn't offering such an alternative
holly shit. the number of Gazans genocided disagree. pissing on the charred bones and meat remains with this level of self-grandiur nuanced with out-of-touch lack of self-awareness, lmao.
>>2844413What alternative to capitalism is offered by Iran? I don't even know what point you're trying to make here. Do you want the CPUSA to sing the praises of Shiite Islamic Republicanism to American workers?
>>2844414
Wild how you people sound exactly like American conservatives.
>>2844418
Except you agree with them about basically everything. You literally have the same concept of how the world works.
>>2844414
Go on, drop your country, where you from ?
>>2844415if you can't answer that question, why are you even here? after fucking 10 years, since you first appeared in lpol, you leaftard, how can't you answer that question. it's a rhetorical question, don't answer. lurk for another 10 years.
>>2844407
Pensions and the welfare state had long been destroyed in north america before the great period of neoliberal globalisation in the 90s both as a result of the falling rate of profit. Read marx lib
>>2844424
Private or public school?
>>2844430
Idk ask Bismarck he invented it
>>2844423Is Iran a capitalist country or not? At any rate, here's an article from People's World where they lay out why socialism is a preferable and viable alternative to capitalism. Apparently it's part of a series:
https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/socialism-or-capitalism-a-life-or-death-difference/There's a lot to criticize the CPUSA for. They're way to soft on and cozy with the Democrats, they're resolutely non-militant, way too concerned with electoralism, etc. But frankly people exaggerate a lot and end up grasping at straws.
>>2844437NATIONAL socialism you mean
>>2844439
So you have no idea of the life of the working class.
>>2844409
giving sunnis credit for the Islamic Revolution of 1979 is like giving protestants credit for the IRA
>>2844407
>capitalism benefits workers
>>2844442
>ethnonationalist chauvinism
these two are working together. responding wrong arguments with even worse arguments makes those wrong arguments look correct.
>>2844460
HR isn't a real job
>>2844486Lol there's people out there who think punk rock is "anti establishment" or whatever
>>2844460
>every American should work 15 hour shifts for 300 years without pay as reparations to the third world
if this ever came close to happening (it won't) the US bourgeoisie would fuck off to new zealand or whatever to get out of it. also america will just nuke the planet before it allows itself to get indentured in the name of global south reparations. but putting aside those very obvious concerns…. why propose reparations on a nationalist basis rather than a class basis? In your model the imperial core proletariat would provide reparations to the third world bourgeoisie. Why? Because when a nation is made to give reparations, there is capital flight. The richest flee to avoid being part of that burden. When a nation conversely is receiving reparations, the bourgeoisie take control of the inflow to make sure they are the primary recipients and get to decide what is done with the money. This is how class society works when reparations are being done on a national basis.
>>2844497
>Doesn't deny the allegations
omg factory doomer anon was HR the whole time
honkoid status?
>>2844496Those people and many others need to read Adorno
>Vance’s Iran Deal Is a Knife to Israel’s Throat
>Israel must move beyond protest. In a multipolar world where Washington’s support is increasingly conditional, blind reliance on any single capital is reckless. Jerusalem must urgently expand domestic munitions production, intensify defense co-development with India, diversify its suppliers, and stockpile war reserves sufficient to sustain prolonged campaigns without foreign vetoes.
<Equally vital, Israel should lead the creation of a Latin American “Southern Eyes” intelligence network modeled on the Five Eyes alliance. Iran and Hezbollah are actively weaponizing Brazil, the tri-border region, and other footholds for financing, narcotics trafficking, and ideological subversion. Jerusalem must begin with Javier Milei’s Argentina through expanded intelligence sharing, joint counter-terror finance operations, and coordinated diplomatic efforts to isolate Iranian proxies in the region. Tehran’s return to the Western Hemisphere is no sideshow; it is a central front in the conflict with the Mullahs. https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/vances-iran-deal-is-a-knife-to-israels-throat/ >>2844510These scumbags need to be humbled so badly, holy fuck. The audacity of the average Israeli is insane.
>>2844511it really is something to see a delusional fascist meltdown of this level. Any objective person could tell you they are fucked; without american support the whole project collapses at this point. But they are so bought into the mythology they fully believe they can somehow sustain war on the entire world.
Hearing my conservative co-worker all but admit the US is done for has been interesting. Anyone else here seeing this happening in their life?
>>2844355>leftists Stopped reading the bait right there
what have you americans done for palestine today?
>>2844401you would not enjoy living in a world where you are not part of the imperial core
your happiness depends on the suffering of palestinians
>>2844543>your happiness depends on the suffering of palestiniansDemonstrably false. The entire world can achieve the same HDI as Denmark with only 1/3 of the world's current economic output. It simply requires elimination of the inherent wastefulness and parasitism of capitalist relations of production. The notion that the pie is simply too small for everybody to live a good and comfortable life is bourgeois propaganda.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452292924000493 >>2844554you are a liberal honky
>>2844556you are filtered by science because your brain sucks, you need meds NOW!
zohran PRO-JIHADIST mamdani achievements?
occasio- RUSSOSINOPHOBIC -cortez achievements?
ilhan THIEF omar achievements?
graham CHILD-KILLER plattner achievements?
bernie ZIONIST sanders achievements?
gazillion dead palestinians
dead iranian schoolgirls
dead ukrainians
an american can never be left-wing
the left-wing of america will always be to the right of fascism for the rest of the world
>French FM Barrot: France will veto lifting UN Security Council sanctions on Iran until nuclear talks meet its expectations and address Tehran's ballistic missiles and proxy forces.
france is head imperialist now
>>2844533no wonder the whole maga arc of american history feels like a sopranos arc
>>2844565Barrot is a notorious zog slave
>>2844565your leftists did NOTHING to help palestine and iran while your lumpen mongrels were raping and killing
>>2844566They're currently in the process of draining the entire pool into the Potomac, dead algae and everything. What could go wrong?
>>2844575cokcsucker phil leotardo wants 40% for the asbestos removal
i said fuck him, in the potomac it goes
>>2844565France was Israel's largest benefactor prior to the US taking on that role in the 60s, and iirc they've held the no. 2 spot since then. Israel has talked about diversifying their international alliances so they may be trying to revive their old relationship with France.
>>2844578fuck you amerkocanacuck creature
anything to pretect your hitlerite empire
>>2844578>Israel has talked about diversifying their international alliances so they may be trying to revive their old relationship with France.yeup israel and france are both mediterranean nations after all, their state securities are more naturally aligned than america and israels ever could
>>2844578I thought Germany was #2.
>>2844591Read Negri
>>2844578Read Hudson
>>2844355Let me give you the credible "bait" then. The so called reparations would constitute a bribe for the burgeoisie, who like in Venezuela and other liberal/socdem governments, would not be much bothered with regime change as long as they are not replaced themselves.
Also, Iran has failed to establish any sort of deterrence while demonstrating the opposite. That the so called MAD option they hold over the gulf hidrocarbon industries is a paper tiger because China controls Iran. To the point where Iran isn't even allowed to disturb the markets too hard, much less credibly threaten global supply(which was fine despite what profiteer propaganda was saying).
Not to speak of the total submission of everyone else in MENA to Israel and NATO, much like with Ukraine, the real reason to instigate the recent conflicts. Or the fact that NATO has gained control of Lebanon and Syria and remained in control of Iraq. And will soon be building up at Somaliland for their next attempt at Yemen. Or Iran saying nothing of Lebanon inviting NATO to disarm Hez, de facto endorsing it by validating their "ceasefire" as negotiated by the Lebanese executive with Israel, at Washington, not Iran's terms.
The USA may be losing the cold war in the longer timeframe, but this is a battle they have won. Iran can be attacked anytime in the future and their only recourse is to close Hormuz again and begin re-building the pressure they will surely lose if the strait becomes open for even a few weeks(again, prices and profiteering notwithstanding). Which would be opposed by the same bourgeoisie this (imaginary) $300bn is meant to enlist.
And finally, that's assuming any of the MoU commitments are honored as is, which is unlikely. Much less the finalized agreement near this favorable to Iran landing at the UNSC.
>>2844543>your happiness depends on the suffering of palestiniansMoralist retard lmao
GOAAAAAAALLLLLL GOAAAAALLL GOALAAAAA
>>2844500weird how these freaks always stop replying the second someone deconstructs them and asks follow up questions instead of feeding them the kind of angry chauvinist replies they want to use as "proof" they are correct
Stay hydrated bros! we got this.
>>2844633Cheering for my Commonwealth brethren.
ouchie…
I hope they get another it would be a shame if they only won from the aussie's mistake
GOAALLL GOALLL GOALLL GOALLLL GOALL
It'S CAMMON HOME
OOOOH SHIT USAAAA
>>2844723
well except for the racism.
we can return to marg bar amrika in an hour
Iran has claimed that the US president signed the agreement “out of desperation,” which Trump has vehemently denied.
In an interview on ‘The Axios Show’, the president was asked whether the conflict had shown him the limits of his political and military reach.
“There are no limits… I haven’t learned that lesson yet. I know there are, but you know, there are no limits,” he said. “We defeated them totally militarily.”
Trump argued that the US blockade of Iranian ports emerged as a key factor in the conflict and demonstrated the strength of the American military.
Where is Yank sayer when you need them?
>A black guy with the last name Freeman scoring in the America-hosted World Cup on Juneteenth
We used to be subtle
>>2844740>>2844721I changed my mind. Felix was right about you. You must be destroyed. My Allah grant strength to Australia.
>>2844533MF looks like a cartoon villain, like a fucking corrupt politician from Gotham in those 90's batman cartoons 😭 wallahi this country is a fucking joke
>>2844755Someone on Bluesky mentioned that he looks as though he's wearing a "Mar-a-Lago guest" costume from Spirit Halloween and honestly I'm going with that too
>>2844756I always cheer against the US and England.
>>2844761Why the fuck does the UK get to have multiple teams?
>>2844761I tend to cheer for this hemisphere. West hemisphere best hemisphere.
>>2844764Sometimes I’ll turn on cricket and cheer for the West Indies team with that exact attitude
>>2844768Dont knock Curacao, it's where your blue stuff for mixed drinks comes from
>>2844768its important because its one of those hubs where the capitalists launder their rainy day funds
*ahem* two (dos) in a row BAYBEE
>>2844792Lmao what can you even say
>>2844796these people are totally unhinged
>>2844315>The Soldier is the School Shooter>We're a nation with school shooters exporting death to enrich an ever smaller group of people who see us as cattle<"cattle"DSA radlibs colonizing the anti-Epstein subreddit /r/TrueAnon: "Yikes! I'm taking a screenshot of this virulent antisemitic tropes! Zohran must condemn this Palestinian for her neo-nazi rhetoric of being class conscious of her legal status as goy cattle. By the way Graham Platner is obviously not a fascist, he said trans rights. Platner is not a nazi, real nazis are people who dare to say the forbidden acronym"
https://old.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1ruy3pu/fuck_mamdani/oaoyycs/
<In Iraq, Graham Platner jury-rigged a grenade launcher to keep firing into populated areas after his own command ordered them to stop because they were killing too many civilians https://www.reddit.com/r/Hasan_Piker/comments/1u6pwoo/in_iraq_graham_platner_juryrigged_a_grenade/ Don't wait for bourgeois cops to liberate you, organize a general strike today!
https://liberationnews.org/juneteenth-and-the-fight-for-black-liberation/DuBois’s “General Strike”
https://nonsite.org/duboiss-general-strike>None of this was necessary. DuBois’s compelling evocation of the General Strike did not require the subsidiary claim that federal policymakers were reluctant emancipators. On the contrary, the General Strike succeeded in large measure because it was consistent with Union antislavery policy from the earliest months of the war. This is not to say that the interests of the slaves were identical to the interests of the northern bourgeoisie. It is to say the Civil War was a revolutionary conjuncture, the moment when the slave’s desire for freedom converged with the Republican Party’s determination to destroy the Slave Power and establish the national hegemony of free labor. We know what the slaves did during the war. What we need to recover is what the Republicans were doing.…
>DuBois’s “General Strike”Hostility to slavery was the organizing premise of the Republican Party. It was not simply that slavery was a backward and despotic, it was that the liberty and prosperity of the North were a reflection of the superiority of free labor. Like most northerners of his day, for example, Abraham Lincoln subscribed to the labor theory of value. “Labor is prior to and independent of capital,” he said. “Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed.” All working people had a natural right to the fruits of their labor, whether the workers were black or white, male or female. “[I]n her natural right to eat the bread she earns with her own hands,” Lincoln said, the black woman “is my equal, and the equal of all others.”14 Republicans never doubted that the slaves would leap at the opportunity to abandon their masters and work instead for wages. In DuBois’s terms, the slaves would go on strike.>In this context it’s worth noting that one of the hallmarks of free labor, as Lincoln saw it, was the freedom to strike. Commenting on a widespread walkout by shoemakers in New England in early1860 Lincoln was “glad to know,” he said, “that there is a system of labor where the laborer can strike if he wants to! I wish to God that such a system prevailed all over the world.”15 When Lincoln used the word “strike” he undoubtedly meant a wage-earner’s right to quit a job and voluntarily choose another. This was a far cry from the labor radicals who were already denouncing the wage system itself as a form of slavery. Nevertheless, in the context of an impending struggle over chattel slavery in the South, Lincoln’s idealization of the laborer’s right to strike had radical implications—implications that became clear only weeks after the Civil War began.https://gerardomarti.substack.com/p/is-juneteenth-a-lie-the-contested>When Major General Granger read his order in Galveston that June, slavery remained legal in Delaware, Kentucky, and New Jersey. Does that administrative reality make Juneteenth a lie? In actuality, to dismiss Juneteenth on those grounds is to demand that history move in a straight, seamless line rather than the contested process that the historical record shows. >>2844264They changed it to
>Iranian victory[3][disputed – discuss]🤣
>>2844849General strikes don't appear out of nowhere. The material conditions necessary for one that would actually be effective isn't there yet. We need to organize towards one before it can be possible.
Also DuBois was an imperialism apologist.
https://web.archive.org/web/20260301142418/https://scholarworks.umass.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/47171b3a-80cf-4c07-bbb5-833cfd99f043/content >>2844853Everyone is Brandon, now and forever
>>2844832He's got more faces than Big Ben but it's still good that the sort of rhetoric we're hearing is coming from the top of the US government. But it is still just rhetoric.
>>2844844Bro DSA is filled with anti-imperialists and geopolikirk obsessed retards lmao
>>2844824Not to fedpost but like… how bad are modern assassins that you're allowed to say shit like this as a public figure so brazenly? People should be afraid to post stuff like this.
>>2844824Goebbels wasn't as evil as this mf
>>2844863>I don't think you guys can conceptualize how the USA becoming good at football/soccerBecause it won't happen. This is the same hype that 1994 had.
>>2844876maybe third worldists are right america doesnt deserve socialism just death
>>2844877>>2844863I’ve already got the soccer bug myself, might join a rec league if we get far enough.
>>2844878>deserve idealism
>>2844882you don't deserve jokes
>>2844878marx wrote capital after looking at the condition of british workers living in capital city of the british empire in the very same decade that the british textile industry was being fed cotton from american slaves, and 1 decade before the anglo-zulu wars.
>>2844886law? metaphysical magical moralistic ideation nonsense
>>2844764Last time you were chanting usa 48 hours after the match and it destroy thread.
>>2844876This video has been posted twice in this thread and several times in the past 5 threads. I'm not saying it isn't worth cringing at… I'm just wondering why the 5 people here keep acting like they are seeing it for the first time.
>>2844549look at how low quality the two replies to this were. they can't even attempt to have a real argument.
>>2844565>nowalways been.
Why would anyone resist when there’s thousands of distractions available, including venting online, and things are mostly comfortable even if you’re an injury or a car problem away from bankruptcy? Hustling and gambling has a higher chance of working than trying to organize and overthrow the government. Why would anyone take that risk?
>>2844926
stfu, barmpot.
>>2844928They're probably more of a botfarm than a barmpot, but close enough. (that is a very british thing to say btw)
>>2844891No idea what you’re talking about
It will always be difficult to force Americans to embrace soccer as an American sport and not a sport foreigners really love and basically only taken seriously if you are a woman past high school. It will always be dominated by hipsters and not have organic enthusiasm like college football has or the culture basketball has in the US or even Baseball. Every world cup the US does well and Americans get hyped and instantly dies as soon as the US loses and we end up back in stage 0
>>2844948Netanyahu will be the fall guy and Israel gets normalized again
>>2844945soccer's barrier to entry is too low for americans to enjoy it. there's no biological freaks of nature in soccer. there's no billion dollar equipment. you can't just stack your team with a bunch of 7 foot 400lb college kids and dominate in soccer.
americans are all about spectacle and excess, and soccer is fairly low on that. that's not saying FIFA isn't an extremely corrupt organization or soccer isn't infested with sportswashing gulf monarchy corruption but as a game the fact it's so accessible to "anyone" makes americans not like it as much. americans love the eugenics aspect of basketball/football.
>>2844949you're getting it.
Israel will be normalized AND USA will be transformed from an enabler of zionism into a victim of zionist brainwashing.
>I don't know what came over me. I gave billions to the genocidal regime. Oopsie! >>2844950burger handegg is actually very boring however. ignoring the cheerleaders, padding, armor, and tackling for a moment, there is maybe 1 play every 5 minutes, it lasts 5 - 20 seconds, and then everyone goes back to the huddle while there's 10 commercials
>>2844953correct
american football games average like 15-20 minutes of "game" for a 2 hour show. the rest is just advertisements and analysis/replays. its optimized to be a spectacle sport.
>>2844945Yeah I get a lot of “I don’t watch soccer” types, but I think it’s growing out here as a sport—not just cause of immigration. You’re seeing more people who grew up with it continuing to play, and the NFL has been getting a worse reputation lately from what I understand.
Either way, I’m confident soccer will get popular over here.
>>2844958>Either way, I’m confident soccer will get popular over here.Same, I remember there was a time when people would straight up turn their nose up at it here. Americans are more enthusiastic about it these days.
>the NFL has been getting a worse reputation lately from what I understandIt's the CTE scandals, you're seeing it on a smaller scale with high school and college football, too.
>You’re seeing more people who grew up with it continuing to playAh, I wish I had. It's a fun sport, the only one I ever had fun playing besides lacrosse tbh. Does /usapol/ play any sports?
>>2844960>It's the CTE scandalsNFL is just the face but it would demonize Soccer just as much if it gets popular. American schools already are banning heading and it will be the topic of discussion if Soccer becomes the face sport of the US. If anything this benefits the old Americana sport Baseball and especially Basketball.
>>2844963Basketball destroys ankles and shins
>>2844963>NFL is just the face but it would demonize Soccer just as much if it gets popular.I'm only saying that because at the moment football is the number one sport in America, so it'd come under way more scrutiny than soccer atm like you said. I wonder if we have any euros in here who can put their two cents in about the discussion of CTE in soccer.
>If anything this benefits the old Americana sport Baseball and especially Basketball.Should I just give up on boxing ever being big in America again? I love boxing, but if you want to talk about a CTE generating machine, there's the sport for you.
>>2844965Track and Field has the potential to do that as well. The truth is that all sports has some risk to it
>>2844963does soccer actually cause concussions? pretty sure headbutting the ball isn't a normal part of play and only happens rarely. it's not like football where your brain is getting rocked around the entire game.
>>2844970Basketball has the highest injury rate of any sport by far
>>2845007thats more because contrary to what w*men believe being extremely tall means your body is extremely fragile.
>>2844961badbunny comprador imperialist garbage
puerto ricans = americans = imperialists
>>2844985It actually happens enough where it is a concern. It isn't juat heading but tackling and landing on the ground constantly does cause concussions to happen a lot in games.
>>2844948muh mom&pop bodega-sucking libby northeastern """"leftist""""" can only talk like a moron (the 1% vs the 99% ad infinitum bernium sanderum, 'netanyahu wars - the highest stage of yahoo wars' -zohran mamdani)
petit bourgeois imperialist with his shitty nba jersey + suit combo gtfo
>>2844974>But what killed boxing in America has more to do with corruption and greed than it does with the risk of the sportIt's true, I remember people complaining that there was a bunch of Russian money in the sport. I would go on because I've really love boxing, but I've had too much to drink tonight and typing's a huge pain in the ass.
>>2844949Netanyahu bad
netanyahoo gone → yisrael norm'aal contry agan
amerikkka → never at fault to begin with
Man Turkey's been humiliating itself in the world cup so far.
Fully expect to see Glendale erupting into uber-patriotic hordes of Armenians next Friday.
>>2845037>Napoleon = Corsica>Stalin = GeorgiaOur Yankee Bonapartist figure in the next couple of years will be born and raised in Puerto Rico.
>>2844952Keep it blunt and honest: will they actually successfully rehabilitate Israel by returning some sort of Labor Zionist and unironically demonize Palestinians as corrupted by Hamas similar to how Netanyahu is being described as corrupting Israel?
>>2844960>Same, I remember there was a time when people would straight up turn their nose up at it here. Americans are more enthusiastic about it these days.MLS attendance has been growing. It's probably about as popular as hockey now or a little bit more. Baseball has actually fallen off in relative terms just because it was once so universally huge, although it's probably still twice as popular as soccer. This World Cup will give it a boost. They're building a new stadium here for the MLS team. (The current one is fairly small.)
>>2844958>Yeah I get a lot of “I don’t watch soccer” types, but I think it’s growing out here as a sport—not just cause of immigration. Immigrants also introduce it to their American friends. I first watched it when I was a kid with a friend who was born in England.
>>2844970>Track and Field has the potential to do that as well. The truth is that all sports has some risk to itProfessional rodeo. Especially bull riding. It's really a minor regional sport but that kills people. Local news story in Oklahoma: OKLAHOMA TEEN LUCKY TO BE ALIVE AFTER BEING GORED IN THE THROAT.
>>2845044your country is not like any other
it is solely responsible for 97% of problems in the world
you cannot just come here with the name KOMMUNIST PARTI and just talk about entertainment and redditslop
>>2844958What is the raison-d'être of the CPUSA? The electoral route? Armed uprising? Trade unionism?
serious question btw
>>2845054posting on leftypol dot org
>>2845086cuck-megalomania
>>2845086nazi germany vibes
>>2845086This will end cinematically with Iran pulling a 7-1 on the USA
>>2845083Kek it does yeah. The Killing Joke video for that song is a really great piece of anti-American art. Also there are people in that crowd in Brazil who don't speak English so if they hear the sound of the stadium announcer booming something it'd be incomprehensible. "AAAAATEN-SHUN FAAAAANS PLEEZE REMANE IN YER SEETS WHILE THE NASHUNAL ANTHUM IS PERFORHMED BY PAAAARIS HILTOOOOON." *black helicopters fly overhead*
One girl in the Brazilian crowd was like "what the fuck!"
>>2844935The last four lyrics of that would make a great chant
>>2844277>>2844260>>2844257getting mad over literal tone policing to the point of calling others fascist over it
besides that point can be flipped on you just as easily to "see, you don't have to do anything, just sit back and rejoice as everyone else takes losses fighting imperialism so you don't have to! Iran won, and the american workers didn't have to raise a finger to stop imperialism! Imperialism falls while you stay on the couch!"
which is very easily what a winning tone can be reduced to. And I'm 100% certain you'd be bitching and moaning about that if that's the people's world article was happy instead of this.
In fact I think you are imperialist apologists for it.
>>2845188well, the buffet indicator is the closest stick to measure both the housing bubble of the 2007-8s and the AI bubble.
It is defined as the total stock market capitalization divided by GDP.
the housing bubble peak was about 107.5% in 2007.
the AI bubble it's 219% as of March 31, 2026.
the problem is when the debt collapses. the housing bubble popped up because the US economy resented oil prices, due to the invasion of Iraq. People couldn't afford to pay due rent, and a bunch of easygoing rent credits were approved, the speculative market grabbed these credits and speculated whether people could pay those credit, creating a secondary layer of speculation, then again speculated if speculators could pay the second layer of speculation, creating a third layer of speculation, and so on and so on.
- the mortgage itself, first layer.
- mortgage-backed securities (MBS), second layer of speculation
- CDOs built from MBS tranches, and third layer of speculation
- synthetic CDOs / CDS bets written on those MBS or CDO tranches. The FCIC says subprime and nontraditional mortgages were originated and securitized, that private-label MBS growth was enhanced by the CDO and CDS markets, and that synthetic CDOs referenced MBS and even existing CDOs. fourth layer of speculation.
When people couldn't afford to pay rent, every penny around that speculative market that
had to be paid, collapsed.
people ended up paying those cretins through obama's rescue plans (quantitative easing), another cretin, who rallied on the promise of jailing the responsibles for the situation (only one person was jailed and was a lol-no-one).
I don't see the AI bubble being this troublesome, in this regard, because the risk today is stretched valuations + extreme concentration + huge capex running ahead of proven monetization; unless someone converts the spending into a heavily levered debt.
tl;dr:
housing = hidden leverage on bad debt; AI = visible concentration on speculative earnings/capex expectations. if the AI bubble starts being financed and re-financed through layers of debt the way housing was, then the analogy gets much stronger.
right now the AI bubble, it's closer to what the dot com bubble was.
I hope that helps.
>>2845205>calling others fascist over itno one called them fascists.
>>2844930I read! I use words! :D
>>2845210thanks anon, much appreciated!
>>2845086Americans deserve nothing but contempt
>>2844945Part of the problem is that the best players all go to European league teams. So Americans would either have to watch the lower calibre of play in the North American league or else bear the unimaginable horror of watching games that have very little to do with them.
>>2844949He's a modern day Hitler in more ways than one.
>>2845188I don't think it will be like that, it is like the dot com crash except this time they get bailed out
>>2845222i was really hoping that it would be pretty catastrophic, but at least it will help recreate interest in socialism, maybe (fingers crossed)
If you think the ruling class will ever allow a Germany 1918 style crisis in the first world you’re crazy, they have a million tools on hand specifically to prevent the type of mass discomfort in the first world that would lead to a break with treatlerism. Revolution happens in the third world because the bourgeois allow it and can afford it.
>>2845245oh, it will be catastrophic alright. the buffet indicator for the dot com bubble peaked at about 1.43x GDP, or 143%, around 1999.
problem is, americans are a mysterious bug. it's like the vatican for capitalism. they won't throw away their beliefs on a system that can't bring them any good.
>>2845220>He's a modern day Hitler in more ways than one.not really. bibi is actually the moderate among the israeli opposition. people comparing him to Hitler haven't seen anything yet. just wait to see what the israeli public unleashes later this year after knesset elections
>>2845222>>2845248i think the biggest differecnce between the ai crash and the dot com crash is going to end up being the economy surrounding it. Like there was still a lot of residual manufacturing and office jobs that were paying well enough and hadn't been completely hollowed out and the retail and service sectors were pretty strong. The US also was able to export a lot more of its inflation away.
Compare to now when a great deal of these things have been ground down to people being driven to ubering and doordashing for work, the retail industry has been heavily displaced by amazon which, while big, still is much more labor-efficient, outsourcing is cheaper than ever, and perhaps most importantly, other countries are starting to seriously take second thoughts on taking on large dollar debts.
I think there's going to be a lot less "shock absorber" this time around. Not even counting how much more the US has been hitched to its stock market simply out of need to put money somewhere.
>>2845257Also consider how many jobs have already been replaced with AI. If the bubble pops and a bunch of those tech firms go under suddenly the automated services many companies are relying on will no longer function.
>>2845247Burger porkies won't even do socialized medicine.
>>2845247germany 1918? no. russia 1905? yes.
>>2845264They don’t need to, in fact it’s far better for them to have health insurance as leverage and labor discipline even if socialized medicine technically improved their rate of profit
>>2845261AI was just a nice scapegoat to get rid of high pay bullshit jobs - another indicator for the economy being about to go bust.
>>2845267the european welfare state is much closer to class collaboration than america could ever hope to be
>>2845270class collaboration implies that there's compromise but the EU is just raping the workers to death every day
i am so sick of this "class collaborationist" talking point
uyghurs shut the fuck up there is no state in history that has ever been "class collaborationist" if you push this line and talking point you are a revisionist
Can I get a quick rundown on the current status of this inter-imperialist conflict?
>>2845267Make up your mind then. Will they deploy tools to pacify workers and preserve treatlerism or will they leave them twisting in the wind?
>>2845277The treats in America are cheap goods, in Europe it’s welfare and government services.
>>2845277Workers are already pacified by car dependency and suburbanization and urban sprawl, no need for social democracy. Also everything is a scam and the workers have internalized that so politics is impossible
>>2845278don't the europeans also enjoy cheap goods?
>>2845273>he doesnt realize theres a compromise between euro workers and porky for free welfare and medicine so they sit back and consoom instead of overthrowing their monarchieslmfao im ded, americans are a million times closer to class consciousness than euroids who defend class collaborationists
>>2845278Euroids have access to Chinese electric vehicles and solar panels which are generally prohibited in the USA
>>2845268i think in no small way there was a lot of people higher up who actually fully bought into the hype and thought they'd all run lights-off companies with AGI in a few years. The more I've listened to these types and what they're actually saying, as well as internal correspondence, and others talking about their experience with CEO's today, i just genuinely think a lot of them are retards who are easily buying into hype only barely kept from being destroyed by the structures that already existed before them. I dont even think it was a scapegoat i think they actually full on bought into it.
As long as the internet exists for people to vent on you will never see real change
>>2845284No. Second world has high gas prices
>>2845285the social safety nets in europe are derived from the USSR existence era. because european workers could see what the USSR was offering, and threatened to cut their heads off, the porkies there ceded with a lot of concessions for the workers. once the USSR was gone, they started privatizing everything, making the governments smaller. even the so-called 'scandinavian socialism' has been eroded to such a poor shape, they can't be considered socialists anymore, just an empty husk, a capitalist state with 'humanitarian' (for the locals) face.
>>2845300What’s the excuse Americans have for not rebelling when they have no welfare to bribe them and the right to own and use guns?
>>2844533guy looks like soviet caricatures of porky personified
>>2845296Social imperialism existed before ussr was founded. Checkmate
>>2845303American porky decided to take the money they wouldve spent bribing proles to build a functioning tech sector with the latest innovations in AI targeting and surveillance
>>2845307It’s also because Americans see the mass death and destruction their government causes and mostly go “better them than me and my kids” because no one trusts their neighbors
>>2845309why are people on this site so adamantly against the idea that the massively exploded security state has had an effect against development of a movement
>>2845312I’m doing “yes and”, not “no but”
>>2845312Because if their state is the decisive factor keeping yanks from revolution, not the yanks themselves, then revolution for yanks is impossible. The line that the state is the only or even the decisive factor against revolution is defeatist and antiscientific.
>>2845317(Me)
Also. To say the state is the reason the proles cannot defeat the state is tautology and antimarxism
>>2845290i agree with you. should have written
>AI also was a nice scapegoatThen again - the people you describe are part of the scapegoated crowd.
>>2845320French rioters are all action no results. what have they achieved? they couldn't even stop a two year rise in retirement age lol. if france had a strong workers movement than the state would afraid but its not
There’s literally nothing you can do that won’t be recuperated by the system and commodified, including revolution
>>2845317 >>2845324The only factor, no, not at all. But I don't think it's zero-effect, the bolsheviks almost certainly would not have gotten away with a lot of what they did today, even in Russia.
>>2845317crisis must hit the state for revolution to be possible, lenin acknowledges this
>>2845334States have many many more tools for dealing with crisis than during Lenin’s time, there’s millions and millions of hours of distractions for proles to ignore their personal and collective lives with
>>2845335imperialism is weaker now than in 1917 due to most of the world decolonizing so not really. the UK no longer has the entirety of India to plunder and bribe the british workers with, for example. modern society is also infinitely more advanced than what lenin had to deal with. you sound like a demoralizer fed
>>2845339Decolonization never happened, it was mostly fraud
>>2845339The UK only got the NHS and the welfare state after Indian independence, this makes no sense
>>2845339>the UK no longer has the entirety of India to plunder and bribe the british workers withSAAAAR
>>2845341british workers were being bribed way before those formal institutions were established (because the USSR was scary)
>>2845347With what? Alcohol? There wasn’t a single pension scheme or dole in Britain before WWII
>>2845350>The Old Age Pensions Act 1908 (8 Edw. 7. c. 40) is an act of Parliament of the United Kingdom, passed in 1908. The act is one of the foundations of modern social welfare in the present-day United Kingdom and the Irish Republic. It forms part of the wider welfare reforms of the Liberal government of 1906–1914. [1] why do euroids Lie?
>>2845329Revolution circumvents the system entirely, so no.
>>2845369Except when it doesn’t, which has been literally every revolution
>>2845376Qing dynasty China never had control of the world’s finances or the biggest and most sophisticated military apparatus
>>2845378>control of the world’s finances or the biggest and most sophisticated military apparatusamerica just got spanked in hormuz so turns out that was all an illusion
>>2845377What revolutions? You mean the the liberal ones that overcame feudalism and industrialized the world? Those?
>>2845384Contradictions galore
>>2845380It’s not the petro rial
>>2845392so? if america cant enforce its will over a middling clerical power with no nukes than whatever financial leverage they have is no good. qing is an ok comparison but i consider the hormuz crisis to be americas battle of tsushima more than anything
>we got shown to be epsteinites
>quick, start a war with iran to distract
>we lost in iran
>quick, complain about the reflective pool to distract
>>2845410American dominance continued after losing Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, I don’t see how this is different.
>>2845480Do you think you deserve better?
>>2845482everyone deserves better. even my enemies. even you.
>>2845481A regional power turns into a middle power by defeating an established power. The parallels are obvious.
>>2845497Parallels to what
>>2845502The Battle of Tsushima, the Russo-Japanese War.
>>2845481Even an empire at the height of its power can fail to subdue an insurgency. In a sense there's no shame in it, since the basic tasks of counterinsurgency are often impossible to achieve regardless of a state's military might, economic power, or diplomatic influence. But failing to win a conventional conflict against a rival government is a definite sign of decline.
>>2845481>>2845410>>2845392>>2845380Because "power-projection" is a joke. It's just threatening and bullying. It only works if people believe you are a loose cannon that will actually back up your threats. Then the countries that do like USA, Russia(USSR), keep getting BTFO anyways.
Like I was seeing someone saying about:
>China will take Taiwan and then their submarines will rule the seas and break American hegemony! or something like that. Like if China just starts sailing their warships around the world more that means anything. Wouldn't matter if they sailed their ships to the Carribean. The major world powers won't start shooting at each other because they can't risk provoking an all out war.
>>2845497Maybe stop trying to understand world politics by comparing it to early Victorian era world politics. Or maybe why limit yourself? I'm sure you can find some Bronze Age story to find parallels to. Maybe something in the Holy Bible even?
>>2845498Projection, I’m not enjoying the slop, it’s inevitable, it’s like the weather or getting laid off
>>2845514>inevitableteleology
>>2845509Obviously, America lost face and izzat and whatever, but that's been happening every day Trump has been in office regardless.
>>2845516Yes, I’m not a postmodernist
>>2845517>America lost face and izzat and whateverIndia derangement syndrome
>>2845509>Maybe stop trying to understand world politics by comparing it to early Victorian era world politics. Or maybe why limit yourself? I'm sure you can find some Bronze Age story to find parallels to. Maybe something in the Holy Bible even?The Russo-Japanese War was something that happened after the Victorian age. Russia's defeat gave further impetus to the revolutionaries in Russia in 1905, the one Big L called the "dress rehearsal" to the February and October Revolutions. The Japanese would go on to play a small, but important role in WWI and an outsized one in WW2. These are all one or two generations removed from living memory.
>>2845509>Maybe stop trying to understand world politics by comparing it to early Victorian era world politicsok then, the hormuz crisis is americas Suez Crisis. moron
>>2845540the hormuz crisis is actually america's hormuz crisis
>ships stuck unable to provide for their sailors>widespread oil panic prices>larger attacking nation villainized and humiliated worldwide>doesn't achieve any apparent objectivesthere's some differences but the similarities are hard to miss
David Hearn had just finished a loop around Hains Point on Friday as part of a 52-mile bike ride when he swung by the Lincoln Memorial to see the refurbished Reflecting Pool for himself.
Noticing a piece of the new “American flag blue” liner that was partially detached from the pool bottom, Hearn said he reached into the water to see what it felt like. Moments later, as the Bethesda man prepared to leave, U.S. Park Police officers arrested him on a misdemeanor charge of destruction of government property. He is scheduled to appear in D.C. Superior Court on July 9.
Hearn’s arrest ignited a social media flurry as President Donald Trump and his allies blamed the pool overhaul’s problems on administration opponents. Emily Miller, a conservative journalist, posted a 2 minute and 8 second video on X, which showed Hearn detained by two members of the National Guard and subsequently surrounded by Park Police officers.
“Man arrested for vandalizing Lincoln Reflecting Pool. He grabbed the hose that female National Park Service workers were using to clear the algae,” wrote Miller, who confirmed via text that she had filmed the encounter but declined to speak on the record.
In an interview Saturday, Hearn, 67, denied damaging government property and said he had never touched the hose, though he acknowledged that his bike tire may have.
“I didn’t vandalize anything,” Hearn said. “I didn’t destroy or break or peel anything. By the time I realized what was going on, I was being put in handcuffs.”
Hearn, wearing biking gear and a helmet, can be seen in the video with his hands cuffed behind his back. Fragments of conversation are audible. But a pump operating in the background drowns out much of the exchange.
Asked to describe his actions, Hearn said: “I reached in there, and I was able to grab the end of that flapping piece, the already peeling piece. It was still attached to the bottom. I didn’t remove anything.”
Hearn is a three-time Olympian who competed in the canoe slalom. He won two world championships in whitewater racing before retiring from active competition in 2002.
The century-old Reflecting Pool has become controversial following the president’s decision to refurbish the concrete basin with a new liner. As government workers in recent days tried to combat an algae bloom in the reopened attraction, a new problem surfaced: chunks of the pool liner broke free.
A few hours after Miller’s video went public, the president in a late-night Truth Social post blamed “Radical Left Lunatics” for “Vandalism at the beautiful Reflecting Pool.” Trump promised the algae problem would be quickly resolved and other repairs made early next week.
The president also accused Jonathan Karl of ABC News, who has reported on the pool’s mounting problems, of “trying to rip the rubber off of the surface” of the pool.
Karl declined to comment.
In 1996, Park Police arrested Hearn for canoeing on the Potomac River after heavy rains left it near a record high. A federal judge dismissed charges of failing to obey a lawful order because the river where Hearn was canoeing is governed by Maryland not the federal government.
On Friday, Hearn said he was detained for almost five hours at a Park Police facility on Hains Point before being released shortly after 9 p.m. He was reunited with his bike and rode home.
>>2845557>waddle waddle waddleFemale soldiers are cyute!
>>2845557look those fats.
americans are fat and eat burger.
>>2845557>the distractions are just as stupid as the things we're distracting fromtrue
>>2845562the people coming back from the world cup are going to be 100lbs heavier and suffer from withdrawal symptoms
>>2845557skinniest natguards from san antonio
>>2845557why do they walk like ducks
>>2845572They're really bottom heavy
>>2845569Finally some good news, man
This psycho Ben Gvir was one of the top trends on twitter yesterday, but not a single one of the Zio media reported on it. Crazy how something can be one of the most talked about news stories of the day and they'll just pretend like it didn't happen.
Literally only The Hill:
https://thehill.com/policy/international/5931949-israel-lebanon-ceasefire-hezbollah-ben-gvir/Aljazeera reported on the UK's response today:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/6/20/uk-condemns-israeli-minister-over-inflammatory-lebanon-remarks>>2845587>zionists protect zionism from scrutinyfork found in kitchen
>>2845559Based
>>2845581We already have July 1st cunt
>>2845585Fat chicks don't count.
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