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๐Ÿ—ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐Ÿฆ…

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkkaโ„ข

<Paul Robeson Edition

OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
๐Ÿ’€ ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison โ€” for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

๐Ÿ“– Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
๐Ÿ“– How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
๐Ÿ“– National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
๐Ÿ“– Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
๐Ÿ“– An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
๐Ÿ“– Prisonersโ€™ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

โš’๏ธ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
โ–ถ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

โš–๏ธ Deeds of the Burger Reich ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes โ€“ master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

๐Ÿ“บ Glowie News ๐Ÿ“บ

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

๐Ÿ“บ Gommie News ๐Ÿ“บ

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

๐Ÿ๏ธ Epstein's Client List ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik ๐Ÿ“–

๐Ÿ“– WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
๐Ÿ“– Power Anywhere There's People! โ€“ Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
๐Ÿ“– War is a Racket โ€“ Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
๐Ÿ“– Letters From an American Farmer โ€“ St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
๐Ÿ“– Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
๐Ÿ“– The Ballot or the Bullet โ€“ Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
๐Ÿ“– What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? โ€“ Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
๐Ÿ“– A Trail of Broken Treaties โ€“ American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Custer Died for Your Sins โ€“ Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Emancipation Proclamation โ€“ Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
๐Ÿ“– Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
๐Ÿ“– Common Sense โ€“ Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
๐Ÿ“– An Indigenous History of the United States โ€“ Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Huey Long โ€“ Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

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>>2850692
something something . . . I wish anarchists, no sorry, libs were a race . . .

>>2850692
To what end, making it a legitimate political party? That might be possible, but even that is simply bourgeois entryism into a system which has long ago outlived it's historical value in this system. American bourgeois democracy is moribund and rigged. There is no actual hope inside the system, and this is by design.

Towards making it a revolutionary coalition? That is not possible because the rank and file DSA member is explicitly counter-revolutionary and the organization is strictly legalist.

The only use for the DSA is to aggressively raid it for members while agitating against it and it's strategy.

>>2850697
>Towards making it a revolutionary coalition? That is not possible because the rank and file DSA member is explicitly counter-revolutionary and the organization is strictly legalist.
to capture and re-write means that you'd work on changing the rank and file, overwhelm the most ardently soc-dem and push them out, and change the core articles so as to make it more fitting for purpose.

>>2850702
And then itโ€™s just another PSL or CPUSA, what use is that?

Sometimes you just gotta accept that not only is it over, there was never any possibility to begin with outside of the status quo, because thatโ€™s what history produced.

>>2850703
Forcibly dragging it into a combination of legal and illegal work, obviously.

>>2850706
Youโ€™re not getting around the surveillance panopticon and the feds that will be around you from the jump, if you last six months itโ€™s because theyโ€™re building a case that will have you in prison for 1000 years like every mid level drug dealer

>>2850707
The point is that when you're talking about a political organization of 100,000 people it becomes no longer readily feasible to simply do a bust of a handful of people. That's edging into widespread open conflict territory.

>>2850708
Dragging the DSA into bolshevism like you are proposing will eliminate 90% of its membership, Americans are not, have never been, and never will be bolsheviks

>>2850709
You are no longer talking about political strategy you are just injecting doomerism.

>>2850710
Do you really think the over educated PMC college grads that make up DSA membership are going to stick by you?

>>2850694
Sad but true take, the only Americans willing to get their hands dirty anymore are the filthy Nazis. Itโ€™s funny how they might throw away the best chance they have at decreasing Americas nonwhite immigrant population all because they canโ€™t fall in line with current regime on Israel.
<If only we tied our unsinkable aircraft carrier to the Kurds! Then the antisemites would have less to complain about.
But in the end the antizionist but not antisemitic left will take power and institute enough economic reform to keep the working class idle and bigoted. I donโ€™t know if itโ€™s the geographic isolation or the racial propaganda but something has made the average American a childish, empty headed, vain and ignorant douchebag. My family has been in the union since the god damn civil war and I canโ€™t imagine them ever once being able to feel real pride in being here, not because of its stupid people, but because of the abominable systems of government they insist on implementing.
Thankfully the time is as ripe as ever for revolution, political violence against the rich and powerful is as a high, and the demsocs are on a war path in NYC. Let god dance on top of Wall Street.

>>2850712
I think a lot of people are more struggling with the belief that collective action is functionally impossible like this. Capturing the DSA and then pushing it around gives a better sense of coherent action to its members. I think "nobody will stick by me" is a major reason of why most parties don't go beyond book clubs, we need people who were already active taking the fight along legally to be willing to push it illegally as well.

>>2850716
Theyโ€™re going to slip up, get caught by the feds, and betray you and however many cadres you have for a shorter prison sentence. This is the country that mostly did nothing as Gaza was destroyed with its armaments and artillery. Organizing Americans is like herding cats, youโ€™re not dealing with human beings.

Any โ€œpolitical partyโ€ that engages in illegal activity is going to get stitched up on RICO charges. You think youโ€™re better and have more operational security than rappers or the mafia?

>>2850687
>how are they going to grow out of it
Talk to them and share viewpoints in a rational and calm manner. As long as you don't rant at them like a crackhead they might be convinced.
>it will be the DSA winning them, not you
As you already pointed out is not a competing political party so who cares? Just don't invest your time into their socdem activities and use the meetups to connect with people who are sympathetic.
>Your goal as a Communist should be to actively agitate AGAINST the DSA,
And how are you supposed to successfully do that if you only have a microparty of 5 people?

>>2850718
>>2850717
>>2850716

The only comprehensive action to be taken against the government is a general strike.

>>2850723
Union density is like 6% of the workforce and unions are class collaborationist social democratic anyway, so how does that happen?

You would need at least half the police and military to pull anything off and those are the oppressors, the class traitors, so how is anything supposed to happen?

>>2850717
>americans aren't hecking HUUUUUUUUUMAN
imagine thinking so highly of humanity that you have to mentally demote people to subhuman when they do the same retarded selfish shit that humanity has always done. Do you think the average Roman going to the Collosseum on their day off cared about the imperialism the Roman army was doing in Gaul? Do you think the average army is above raping and pillaging when they have the upper hand against a designated outgroup? Lmfao Genghis Khan invented germ warfare by catapulting plague-ridden dead bodies over city walls, but you cucks are bizarro burger exceptionalists

America is a piece of shit country but you'd have to be delulu to think there is anything uniquely inhuman about it. It's the highest expression of humanity, a bunch of sadistic apes who used religion to trick themselves into thinking they were better than that.

>>2850720
>And how are you supposed to successfully do that if you only have a microparty of 5 people?
he will never tell

>>2850678
>he thinks banning is possible when they just get new IPs
>unironically posting this from the tor node

>>2850727
True, itโ€™s an imperial core issue, Marx was wrong about how capitalism advancing would make it more unstable and the proletariat more restless. He didnโ€™t live to see mass media, suburbanization, the recuperation of all dissent. The only time proles are revolutionary is when theyโ€™re either part of a colonized nation or they or their immediate family are peasants, because peasants are self sufficient and can feed themselves and the insurgent army. Letโ€™s say you started an insurgency in West Virginia, the government shuts down the dollar general then everyone just dies, thatโ€™s it.

>>2850729
A ban is just mods saying โ€œBad Postโ€, honestly the message should just say that

>>2850732
>ban is when mods downvoot
WE'RE GONNA VOTE VOTE VOTE, IT'S OUR MOMENT

>>2850717
>>2850718
It's not about having random party members doing random crimes. The point is to be ready to break rules as political instability of the ruling society increases. Capitalist society is inherently unstable and constantly making huge swaths of the population become criminals. And what happens when the AI bubble pops, a great depression turns at least 25% of the population unemployed and homeless? That type of instability creates the atmosphere of illegal activity and rebellion that can temporarily overwhelm the state. Socialists to be ready to fight back before they end up Jakarta Method.

>>2850734
You think that isnโ€™t part of their plan and calculus? The point is to make you a criminal, arrest you, and enslave you.

>>2850734
The state wouldnโ€™t allow this type of chaos to come about if it wasnโ€™t already factored in

>>2850735
>>2850736
I think people a lot of times overestimate how well planned and prepared the state is especially when it is rotting away with increasing incompetence. Every state has a "plan" but as the saying goes:
>everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth

>>2850737
The people operating in the institution donโ€™t have to be smart or competent for the machinery to work, shitโ€™s on autopilot

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>>2850734
>>2850735
>>2850736

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>be lenin
>get caught by tsarist govt planning revolution
>exiled to siberia
>get to hang out with peasants, hunt, write, even hang out with your wife
>eventually escape easily

>be american leftoid
>hand out zines
>decades in jail
>look at cop wrong way
>executed on spot

>be random american, not even a leftoid
>face recognition AI software determines you are known gigaterrorist
>1000 years dungeon

UmM jUsT dO wHaT LeNiN dId It'S eAsY

The only way revolution happens is if the military and the CIA are on your side, which means they would need to be losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers at a time for something even stupider than the Iran war and even the stupidest American neocon knows better than to send American soldiers into any perceived meat grinder. Thatโ€™s why we have the Iran MOU

>>2850745
the dollar will hyperinflate as soon as burgers have lost currency hegemony

>>2850745
you will see weimar level hyperinflation in less than 20 years.

>>2850748
>>2850750
You think the CIA or the military care about the fake money?

>>2850751
A good 80% of their accomplishments is due to the easy availability and power of that "fake money." The power of the cia is directly proportional to the power of the dollar.

>>2850752
You think all those agents and those networks disappear with inflation? That itโ€™s like the mafia and theyโ€™ll just turn on each other as soon as theyโ€™re hit with any inconvenience?

>>2850751
>You think the CIA or the military care about the fake money?
you're stupid. nixon ended the gold standard for a reason. the petrodollar scheme with the saudis was established for a reason, the US went apeshit over the strait being closed for a reason. Our entire hegemony is built on the petrodollar and the USD being the global reserve currency. Countries hold large amounts of dollars even when they are inflating, and even when they don't want them, because they need them to buy energy. All economies need energy, and the US strategically tied their currency to the global energy market. By forcing everyone to use dollars to buy energy, the world was made dependent on holding dollar reserves. That's why the global south is pushing so hard for dedollarization, and it's why the US government and military is lashing out and trying to preserve it at all costs. You'd be a fool to think they don't care about that.

>>2850754
The US existed as a creditor nation before the petrodollar, and will continue to exist afterwards. Any idea of the US breaking apart like the Soviet Union is nonsense, no one is going to tolerate border crossings on the interstates and โ€œlocalโ€ and regional culture are memes, they donโ€™t exist. Thereโ€™s zero basis for separtism.

>>2850755
Weird defensive goalpost shifting in response to being educated. Watch the video.

the US is a debtor nation these days, not a creditor nation and gets away with not paying its debts precisely because of the petrodollar system and its military.

The US is also losing its military advantage because it is not able to produce its expensive multibillion dollar wunderwaffen as quickly as "weak" countries like Iran are able to produce cheap drones that destroy expensive burger toys.

you're just repeating "the past will be like the future, trust me" like a mantra. Yes, it will! But not in the way you think. Empires collapsed in the past and they will collapse in the future. and it doesn't have to be a catastrophic single event. it can be a slow decline like England. I said nothing like the USSR. I am merely suggesting that the US is going to lose its hegemony and experience hyperinflation. Not that it will break up.

Also I forgot to mention that the petrdollar system is not MERELY just how the USA forces everyone to hold dollar reserves and ties everyone's energy dependence to the USA, it's how the USA secures loans it is unable and unwilling to pay back, and it is how the USA is able to badger countries it doesn't like with sanctions. the US gov will soon kiss all those advantages goodbye.

>>2850756
The US will just adapt and export its problems to South America and the Caribbean like it always has

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>>2850758
>i have retreated to another smaller goalpost
i'm sorry

>>2850709
>will eliminate 90% of its membership
First congress of RSDLP had <10 delegates, all got arrested.
1905 about 8,400 bolsheviks. In Petrograd some 800.
1906 about 13,000.
1907 – 46,100. Peak membership before a period of harsh repression. The 5th Congress in London noted their majority status.
1908โ€“1912 – dropped to a few thousand. A period of intense reaction and police repression following the failed 1905 revolution. Membership plummeted. For example, Moscow's membership dropped from 500 to 150 in 1909. The Petrograd organization fell from 8,000 members in 1907 to only 3,000 by 1908. Similar drastic drops were seen in Yekaterinburg (1,070 to 250) and Ivanovo-Voznesensk (2,000 to 600). The Bolsheviks themselves were reduced to a small, underground cadre of hardened revolutionaries, with estimates placing them in the "few hundreds or several thousand"
1912- 1917. Data unavailable. It's estimated that the party's size before 1914 was between 5,000 and 10,000
Feb 1917 – 23,600. Just before the February Revolution, the party was a small, disciplined underground organization.
April 1917 – 79,000.
July 1917 – 240.000
Oct 1917 – up to 400.000

>>2850632
ur gay like >>2850924

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>>2850632
>it's just cartoons
so, was it the dingus nooticer?

>>2849831
Shut up, glowie.

will there be presidential elections? will the DSAmocrats win the presidency? will whomever comes in roll back the donroe doctrine?

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Anarchists and MLMS are always trashing everything. They're like leftist rain men. Ever notice most of them seem very on edge too, like in a constant state of anger, almost ready to hit somebody? You can hear how angry they get when talking about their beliefs, it's always like evangelists, or violent. They want leaders calling for heads and pikes, otherwise its "bourgeiose". The best part is, the pro violent anarchists are actually confused dictators, anarcho-pacifists are correct to tell insurrection anarchists that theyre just authortarian communists without knowing it, because a successful violent revolutions basic function is wielding authoritarian power against someone else. All revolution with violence is authorarian or leads to authoritarianism. Anarchists will vote on which rich dude or priest dies in a firing squad first, then line them up, and decide on their life or death, and say "yup, anti-authoritarian". แด‰uแด‰lossnW calling them confused dictators was correct, แด‰uแด‰lossnW was using his knowledge of true socialism to reach this conclusion.


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