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>>2847836 P diddy is a revolutionary
I'm not sure if any of you are old enough to remember when Obama spoke out against "identity politics." I was like WTF? I never heard that term before coming to this shithole.
https://fee.org/articles/obama-speaks-out-against-identity-politics/>>2849273>Hes baiting the working class and slightly caving into popular sentiment how are you falling for thisIt's whatever. I think the term is retarded. Maybe that's the takeaway you should have. If Obama is saying it, maybe it's retarded and you are retarded for using the term.
Hello
>>2849276>I never heard that term before coming to this shithole.Really?
>>2849276Just because a liberal says it doesn’t mean it’s automatically a liberal buzzword you retard
>>2849280Yes. 10 years ago nobody said that term ever like bussin, no cap.
>>2849282I heard the term idpol used at least since 2014, and not just on leftypol. I always found it more useful than "SJW" "Woke" etc. because it attacks both the "right" and "left" wing manifestations of this sort of bourgeois demographics-mongering.
>>2849281This board was founded as an "anti-idpol" left board lmao. What it always meant was a place for Whites and the White LARPers to say uyghur and faggot.
>>2849265>No I assume it should be done at the next national convention next yearYou know that's fucking stupid lmao. "Next year" is essentially "right now". You are a child if you think that the conditions for a viable split will change between now and next year. You are so fucking out of touch and you are pulling shit out of your ass. Just admit it dude. You have no intuition about how the political culture in America moves and evolves, the speed at which things change or don't, and what direction things are actually moving when it comes to things like this.
The split will obviously happen. But we also have a fucking communist party here, so it's honestly debatable whether that will actually work anyways. Having a real "worker's party" is a clear necessity, but timing it and doing it right is very important. And this is also something that you would agree with, which is something literally everyone mildly left-wing in the DSA would agree with too, which means that your criticisms are pointless.
>>2849285Disagree that was the intention, though it was an unfortunate side effect
>>2849285True that’s why I like it
>>2849286Like 60-70% of members in DSA Dont like the current ruling faction led by the squad or at least a plurality conditions next year would be ripe for a split because after the DSA wave in 2026 when THEYRE senators and congressmen tge DSA laymen will see through there bukkshit and split
>>2849286And tagging onto this: the split will probably only be able to happen (when we can run viable candidates under a different party banner) in about 6 years minimum. By this time, it would be the rest of Trump's term, and then the first term of the next president. Which is how these cycles run.
>>2849290The DSA candidates winning is a nothing burger though you should influence your chapter into becoming more communist and revolutionary so that by the time the DSA split happens the majority of your average members leave and form a communist DSA
>>2849291I mean I guess it depends on what you mean by split then, because it's not like we don't have a thousand other microparties in the USA. If they split too soon, the radical elements of the left who actually have some modicum of power will be a great risk of becoming a completely irrelevant block AGAIN, which means that the DSA will ONLY consist of rightists, which is fucking bad lmao
>>2849294ah yes, a communist dsa, also known as a communist party. A party that already exists. Called the CPUSA. Which isn't winning anything. Great idea!
>>2849293LMAO what the fuck is this?
>>2849298What I mean by communist DSA isnt voting for dems I mean as a multi-tendency group
>>2849297The DSA leadership is already dominated by rightists though becoming a bunch of tiny groups is what I’m worried that’s why I think it should unified centralized and organized split
>>2849300>>2849301define rightist in this scenario. Because if your definition of rightist is "not firebombing your local walmart" I will scream at you
>>2849302Rightist in terms of DSA is just social de,octave and the squad not that hard to understand
>>2849184>>2849186>>2849174I'm going to court controversy here and say the DSA winning elections is broadly a good thing and a lot of people on the broader "Left" repeat the whole "Rosa killer" line as a mantra rather than analysis. Like wasn't someone posting "Hasan would PERSONALLY shoot Rosa Luxembourg in the head if he existed back in Weimar Germany" and that's just an on its face absurd statement, one which I think demands some actual analysis from the people making that claim.
I think the truth, which is extremely unpopular on here and which I'll catch heat for saying, is that the "Social Fascist" functions less as analysis and more as an in-group signifier. Its the regurgitated position of Socialism almost a century old at this point and I don't think there's all that much thought that goes into it beyond "this is what Socialists said when they were on the upswing so I'll say it too."
I'd argue the position of the DSA contra modern politics is less the SPD in the Weimar Years and probably closer to the early Social Democratic parties of Engels and Marx's day. It hasn't slid into an "establishment" position because
the democrats already fulfill that role, you see business leaders and right wing news and its pretty clear they both hate and fear the DSA as silly as that might sound to an ML. But the fact is I think any analysis of the present situation in the United States, if it wants to be even close to objective, has to acknowledge that the DSA isn't "siphoning off revolutionary potential" because the explicitly revolutionary Marxist parties have been frankly moribund for years now. Sometimes one or two get enough ideological hegemony within a narrow circle of radicals to be acknowledged however briefly as THE party to join (I believe it was PSL for quite some time) but this is only a popularity
within already existing radical circles and not a "mass popularity".
As far as being a mass party of the working class, and again I'll get some blowback for this, by sheer numbers, name recognition, and influence, the closest existing thing in the U.S. is the DSA.
To be clear, this isn't a declaration: "You have to vote for the DSA to be a Communist" and personally I find the whole in-group signaling within radical circles in the U.S. to be immature and pointless. What I
am saying is that the hysterical notion that the DSA experiencing electoral success is somehow a
detriment to Marxism doesn't seem to hold water. The notion that those in the DSA's orbit, like Hasan, are "Rosa Killers" is absurd. The SPD got into its position after years of simultaneously gaining lucrative careers in establishment politics that'd be upended by a revolution
while simultaneously having enough good will from the German Working Class to still have one foot in the door. Its a narrow set of circumstances which gave the SPD of its day its character which I don't think exist 1:1 with the modern political situation in the United States. The Democrats are establishment types obsessed with keeping the donor money flowing, but its hemorrhaged support among the working class and can't inspire ideological fervor from them. The DSA is new-ish as a political force and earning at least some support among the Working class of the United States.
Acting like the DSA is a "threat" assumes modern ML parties are competing with them, which they aren't. A good deal of ML parties are just non-competitive.
>>2849299>LMAO what the fuck is this?2016 shit when you were a sperm
>>2849293What's the orchestral score name for this?
>>2849306Just read rightist DSA is not that hard to connect to social democracy
>>2849308I think it's the main theme for Red Alert 3
>>2849309you're getting lazy come on man. You need to explain yourself in more detail than that
>>2849312The right wing of the DSA wants to run as democrats indfintly they are every DSA congressman they are the squad aoc, Mamdani etc…
>>2849305this is the normal position that anyone who actually interacts with other human beings in any serious capacity should have.
>Oh you think good thing happening is good?? Well what if I told you it's actually BAD and you should be more of an inflexible dickhead because thats more communister >>2849290I guess the real question is, why is the DSA going to be pulled left when the democrats weren't?
>>2849315It’s stale breadcrumbs not acting as treat Le rite go back to xitter
>>2849314>DSA just wants to be democrats foreverIf that were the case, they wouldn't be in a different party. Please further elaborate.
>>2849313hexbear is the opposite of leftypol in a lot of ways but they do the same thing
>>2849318I made a notable difference between the right and left faction but yes the LEADERSHIP of the DSA wants to stay democrats tge DSA is under a dictatorship of the. Bourgeois. That’s why we need an organized split next year
>>2849316Since it currently functions as a broad affinity group rather than a party in its own right, the DSA is much more susceptible to grassroots influence than the Democrats ever were. That you have actual Marxist caucuses in the DSA is proof enough of this
>>2849320you're making shit up man
>>2849322What are you talking about look with your eyes
>>2849305the "social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism" line is not just a mantra, but it doesn't even make sense historically. that line was abandoned by the comintern, and then the USSR worked with the USA and Great Britain to defeat Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy. If Social Democrats are off limits because they're "moderate fascists" then what does that make liberals like Roosevelt and Conservatives like Churchill? It is applying a 1920s Comintern line to a 2020s Western Hemisphere that has not even had a single successful proletarian revolution
>>2849318Doesn't the DSA only endorse Democrat candidates without running their own? How are they functionally any different from just the 'left wing' of the Democrat party?
>>2849326DSA isn't a party so how would they run "their own"
>>2849320>>2849322>WE*** need an organized splityou don't live here and you're not in the DSA
>DSA under a dictatorship of the BourgeoisDude what in the fuck does this even mean? Like what fucking bourgeois are dictating the DSA? Are you stupid?
>>2849326THEYRE basically a caucus that’s why we need to split because it’s unlikely that left-DSA does a inter-party coup
>>2849328dictatorship of the bourgeoisie refers to the current state of the USA
>>2849328I live in the us and the dictatorship of bourgeois means that it’s ruled by pacs that run candidates to fill our specific checks to bait the working class and the left
>>2849321so the next question is, is the vanguard party form even the best form for revolution in a weird settler-colonial constellation of state governments like the USA? We saw the vanguard party form succeed in semi-feudal 20th century civilization states like Russia and China, but America is in a much different time and place, with a much different history.
Thinking of joining the DSA unironically
>>2849334The vanguard party is the best form and
>settler colonialNot everybody or even most whites in tge us are colonists anymore(unless out in some areas of the western us)
>>2849334You're correct, which is why we cant simply copy-paste the theory and tactics of the Russian Revolution and expect it to work here. Any American revolution is for better or for worse going to require by nature a level of decentralized community self defense especially in the early stages, but strategy will be very touch and go as it was for the revolutionaries of old
>>2849336Psl, left wing of the DSA frso whatever doesn’t matter we should unite all revolutionary socialists
>>2849339Was thinking PSL but that article about how they spy on their members kinda put me off
>>2849338>>2849334A vanguard model can work just about anywhere
>>2849327Actually register as a party then, so they can run candidates? Sorry not a yank but it seems like that's something you guys can do right? Register new parties. DSA looks like a bigger org than some of the independent succ dem orgs in my country, don't know what the issue would be.
>>2849340The left of the DSA + others(future)
>>2849343True though DSA will never do this which is why need to do an organized split
>>2849344I see, so we're still in the wait and do nothing phase of the revolution. Let me know when the vanguard party emerges. I don't want to join any social fascist parties.
>>2849343that would require a constitutional change
IMO what might be one of the better options is to have the various groups in the DSA make an actual party that is, itself, still party to the DSA, but has such a large majority that it effectively runs it.
>>2849337>The vanguard party is the best formWhat is it about the vanguard party form that makes it just as applicable to 1940s semi-feudal China and 1910s semi-feudal Russia as it is to the United States of America?
>>2849342because…? use reasoning and evidence to justify the positive assertion.
>>2849348We’re in the baby steps/seeds of a revolution my plan is to get a bunch left wing revolutionary chapters of DSA and caucuses to split at the next national convention to form one big multi-temdency revolutionary socialist party that will focus on organizing and protests though will still run candidates
>>2849353>>2849351Because it’s easiest to organize a revolution it’s the reason why it’s the only form of socialism that has lasted or ever been tried
>>2849313>>2849315>>2849325Something I don't think goes really acknowledged about the DSA and the issues with Social Democracy is that it doesn't exist in the same
milieu that Social Democracy within 20th Century Europe did. Like say what you will, but the Social Democracy of that time and place actually had ideologues. Like Bernsteinism and Kautskyism were broadly ideological tendencies, not just slurs to accuse Social Democrats of engaging in. At the very least they wrote books and made claims.
By contrast I'd argue distinctly *American* Socialism hasn't had much of a distinct ideological character since the death of Eugene Debs. The position of the CPUSA, for better or worse, was to relentlessly obey the Moscow line. There were less distinct personalities that fulfill the role of "ideologue of Socialism" and more people who react to or regurgitate thought from overseas.
Within the DSA itself I don't think there's an overarching ideological tendency, but rather different caucuses pulling in different directions. A kind of mirepoix of various factions ranging from reformist to revolutionary. But ultimately no central figure to order the DSA's socialism into a system of thought and action. It's just kind of all boiling together. It's not really an "academic study of Socialism" but just groping around for it, it's very rudimentary and basic I think.
It's also why I think a split within the DSA by more Marxist factions isn't going to end with any newfound success. Its considering the DSA a kind of totem that, if a split forms and "real radicals" emerge to create a shadow-DSA, will somehow be able to "inherit" its electoral success. I think any Marxist splinter from within the DSA is just going to be the same exact thing as the PSL or whatever other Socialist party exists out there. I don't see many arguments on why that
wouldn't be the case, just an assumption that "well it'll be different this time."
>>2849358The commie were right again but try to organize protest groups militias chapters and other revolutionary groups and form a United front as be the sole revolutionary/actual resistance to trump and the us hov(the only time was during the la protests last year)
>>2849357Any internal split in the DSA will be a big organized group with actual resources and American socialism has been dead since debs(ignoring the 30s 6os and 70s) but from the ashes KF debs foster and black panthers/gus hall will arise Marxism Leninism(updated to modern conditions)
>>2849355But how much does that depend on the local historical conditions? We have a 0% success rate for vanguards in developed nations.
>>2849360>I stand with the us millitaryNUSOIS can’t even bait keeeeek
>>2849358I used to think the Mamdanists were the greatest threat to our democracy until the rise of the Platnerists. Now it's a three way split between the entrenched Occasio-Cortezists and the Mamdanists and the Platnerists. The scariest outcome is the syncretic school of MPs(Mamdanist-Platnerists) who are still somewhat fringe, but if they keep building like they are, could be even worse Hitler.
>>2849362Yes though when the us gets to those historical conditions a vanguard would be best
>>2849360Planter is going to be the next if the American Reich
>>2849365You expect the US to return to a heavily agrarian workforce with a nascent industrial proletariat in the near future?
>>2849357>Something I don't think goes really acknowledged about the DSA and the issues with Social Democracy is that it doesn't exist in the same milieu that Social Democracy within 20th Century Europe did. Both arose from imperialism. Your wall of cope against that fact doesnt change it.
>>2849360>platner is crusading against jewish feelings<how>by uhhhh volunteering for 4 tours of duty in 2 zionists wars, and also doing gig work for a zionist mercenary company that commits war crimes, then running for the zionist senate in a zionist party<and what about Mamdani>by uhhhhhhhh keeping the zionist police commissioner Tish, and meating with Chabad Lubavitch, and constantly reassuring his Jewish voters that he's just a regular friendly neighborhood democrat not one of those nasty hamas sympathizing anti semitesdo reformists really?
>>2849370and communism came from imperialist european racist prussia. but it got applied in russia and china. so what?
>>2849368something something climate collapse will make the whole world semi feudal or something lol
>>2849368No I plan for it to become communist due to a civil war in like 20-30 years and the us does have a large agricultural industry dominated by capitalists oppressing the proletariat though not semifuedal
>>2849377a lot of our agricultural workers are either prison slaves or undocumented migrants, so one contradiction to solve is what to do when the agricultural proletariat is split between convicts and people who aren't even from the country originally.
>>2849372It’s baaaait
>>2849374Geg
>>2849370Theres still proletariat in the im;erial core
>hide Zines
>get 30 years in federal prison
The absolute state of Amerikkka
are you feelin the lib vibes
we're libbing the fuck out
>>2849382we're gonna
VOTE
VOTE
VOTE
it's our moment
>>2849386Try to spot Houdini in this video
>>2849387Join anti-fa(im not a terrorists go empower trump) or some other revolutionary group be against all evil not just 1
>>2849370You've got a completely vulgar and moralistic kind of anti-imperialism that exists only to suffocate any attempt at improving the conditions of workers here by claiming that through some totally abstract means it results in the further immiseration of workers elsewhere. In the years since "anti-imperialism" has completely monopolized all online discussions in the western left, it has shown itself incapable of actually sabotaging imperialism and actively detrimental to organizing workers.
>>2849313>I don't give a fuck about Rosa Luxemburg sorry not sorry.Based
>>2849375Feudalism is just suicide at this point
>>2849377American agri industry is also unfortunately not the same thing as what self-sufficient peasantry had to hand. This moves the fight from winning over politically small poor peasants who might win something, the medium sized peasants who can be bargained with, and big peasants who must be threatened, into just one more industrial fight that we have no more leverage in than we have against Monsanto.
>>2849397put down the phone
pick up the hoe
touch grass all day
let's go go go go
>>2849397Tell that to the high tories
>>2849397>>2849400we must smash all clocks NOW
the reign of the clock must END
>>2849398True the workers oppressed by big farm( agriculture industry) are migrants and the people who work for kulaks and farmers which need emancipation
kinda starting to think we need to emphasize "anti-imperialism, the highest stage of socialist organizing" or something
like a huge amount of the issues of imperialism are massive foreign policy and business decisions that are being driven by international developments and we need a high degree of social organization to meaningfully resist this beyond limp boycotts.
>>2849404>>2849405True migrant workers and prisoners are the bottom strata of the working class today and boycotts need more planning then deciding on a whim
>>2849388>Try to spot Houdini in this videoAnon. These are people who look after themselves physically. Houdini looks like he permanently slouches and ate a whale.
>>2849406i mean more like actually attempting to do things like, i dunno, prevent an israeli intelligence corp from setting up a system locally in town, is going to be a pretty serious issue to even stop them doing it openly, let alone having enough people to track the inevitable attempts to sneak it through.
This isn't even getting into what it would take to put pressure on chocolate, coffee, banana importers.
Neo-Nazi larp pagan satanic pedophiles cultists like the ___waffen division are the most desperate form of capitalism all just avoid socialism
>>2849409True though people already realize Israel Le bad but they aren’t doing anything and in the fight against capitalism and imperialism as a whole
>>2849411IMO that just lowers the barrier of difficulty of achieving anti imperial motions, but doesn't solve them for us. Israel Le Bad means we can probably get more groups in on it, but we still have a lot of work to do
>>2849412>but we still have a lot of work to doI've noticed on here that if you don't add this to the end of every post people just ASSOOOOOOM you're saying the opposite lol. really sad
>>2849315Seeing the reaction it comes from skepticism. Socdems go in and end up betraying
>>2849417yeah, i just mean that like, even if we get rid of Israel or at least even Elbit, who are wildly unpopular, we still have to attack Hershey, which doesn't have nearly as bad a reputation (though it should)
>>2849420
No offense but I think you need to work on articulating your ideas better.
On an unrelated side note I’ve been back to arguing with reddit libs. Actually had one crying about “the murder of the Kulaks” and found another that says it makes no sense to be Pro-Palestine but not Pro-Ukraine
>>2849392>You've got a completely vulgar and moralistic kind of anti-imperialism that exists only to suffocate any attempt at improving the conditions of workers here by claiming that through some totally abstract means it results in the further immiseration of workers elsewhere. In the years since "anti-imperialism" has completely monopolized all online discussions in the western left, it has shown itself incapable of actually sabotaging imperialism and actively detrimental to organizing workers.You are projecting clearly, so on that basis i agree with you that dominant online DSA twitter western imperialist left lile yourself has indeed sabotaged anti-imperialism and immiserated workers by abstract means and such or whatever anti-anti-imperialist nonsense bitchass trauma dumping
Should we discuss the merits of certain strategies, tactics, methods, based on evidence and reason, or should we become obsessed with namefags and give them endless attention instead of just filtering them. Let's find out!
>>2849429
Are you even the real felix or is he unable to do anything but Kubrick stare at the monitor because the dSSa won some seats
>>2849430Ive seen Nazis use tankie
>>2849426>the poor innocent kulaks oppressing laborGeg
taylor swift is getting married u guyz
Hey guys, I don't if this is the right place to share it, but don't trust the DSA, they aren't what they seem. In 2025 I joined and at first ot was nice, going to meetings, hanging out with who I thought were other socialists, but then in January of this year I was invited to a "special meeting" for higher level party members and they even told me Mamdani would be there. That's when it happened. I was raped. Repeatedly. By dozens of top party members including Mamdani himself. They told me this is what I needes ro do to become a real socialist. But as I was being raped I noticed that among the books on the shelf they had Mein Kampf, the Turner Diaries, La Mia Vita, and a bunch of other books from fascists I didn't recognize. I later found a survivors network for victims of the DSA rape machine and let me tell you, there are thousands of us, THOUSANDS. Please, whatever you do, don't join the DSA and end up like me. Don't bote for the DSA because every vote potentially creates another victim of this sick fascist cult. Thank you for listening to my truth even though I know it may be hard for some of you to hear and accept.
>>2849439Maybe we'll get lucky and someone will drone strike it.
>>2849433For what it’s worth I’m trying to discuss tactics.
Is there something in particular you want to discuss anon? You got any disagreements with me we can go over?
>>2849430this confirms tankiddies are socdems
its over
>>2849448chud, this is the 7th time this month you have presented "it's over" to the class
>>2849433We should become obsessed with namefags and give them endless attention instead of just filtering them. Are you new here?
>>2849450True namefags won
>>2849435I don’t show it here but I come across as a psychotic tankie with libs. Latest incident was someone complaining about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, me pointing out that the Western powers were collaborating with the Nazis and similarly abandoned Czechoslovakia, and getting told I was doing “whataboutism” and that the West was right to refuse Soviet deals against the Germans.
>>2849445I’m sorry anon, I just don’t know what that means
>>2849361>any day now we'll get our chance to show we've learnt nothing and larpeveryone already knows you do that
>>2849453Is posting street posters and art an effective way to stuff?
I'm a Mexican city city the local leftist are really.into wheat pasting papers with their propaganda all over the place
>>2849453>getting told I was doing “whataboutism”whataboutism is liberalese for "establishing context is illegal"
>>2849454I don’t larp kys
>>2849453>CPUSANON >the Molotov Ribbentrop pact wasnt that bad and saved tge Soviets>liberals>YOUR LITERALLY STALINGeg every time
>>2849456Leftists do that everywhere anon, that anon was just confused because most on these sites are such shut-ins and so divorced from political organizing that they don't know these things.
>>2849456Oh! Sorry, my bad. Guess I thought you meant online posting instead of IRL posting.
Anyways I’m kind of mixed on it, I think graffiti that could really work as agitprop wouldn’t really have artistic value and more be blunt, vulgar statements that immediately causes concern in the ruling class. Like as a hypothetical let’s say you’re doing graffiti in Nazi Germany, rather than an art project I think plain language “things will get better if we kill Hitler”
It’s crass and not highbrow, and it definitely would fuck people over if they’re caught putting that up, but it doesn’t dance around the point but rather throws the truth in peoples face
>>2849460We’re not shut ins that’s just every website Reddit, xitter, instagram etc… are also “shut-ins” by that definition
>>2849461You speak with great authority for being some weird unc who had to pay someone to change his car battery.
>>2849461Sounds like preaching to the choir to me, nobody who isn't already convinced will agree with the statement
>>2849465Preaching to the choir has some value
Theres a reason they show up to church
>>2849469yeah people need you to hit the refresh button on the ideology or they become uncommitted and drift away
https://bsky.app/profile/erininthemorning.com/post/3mp2ydp534c2jErin Reed
@erininthemorning.com
- The Texas GOP platform has just been released, and it includes many draconian policies towards trans people:
- Absolute ban on name changes and care up to 26 years old
- Absolute ban on trans teachers
- Repeal of Obergefel
- Ban on businesses supporting trasn people
And more
Our latest.
Newly Released Texas GOP Platform Calls For Ban On Trans Teachers And Trans Care Under 26 Years Old
The platform is one of the most extreme documents voted on by any party towards transgender people.
www.erininthemorning.com
- Plank 116 of the platform goes on to call for banning trans teachers, social trasnition, any curriculum, library materials, or extracurricular offering that "adopts, supports, or promotes gender fluidity or transgender ideology" and prohibiting school staff from "engaging in transgenderism"
- The platform also calls for the criminal prosecution of parents of transgender youth under child abuse statutes—something Governor Abbott has already attempted, directing the Department of Family and Protective Services to investigate families of trans children in 2022. Plank 150 states:
- Plank 203(c) goes further than any state party platform in the country, calling for an outright ban on businesses expressing support for transgender people:
- Lastly, the platform does not just target transgender people—it targets LGBTQ+ people broadly. Its section on homosexuality opens with a declaration that would not be out of place in the 1950s: "Homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle choice."
- Plank 152 endorses conversion therapy for people of "any age with identity disorder or unwanted same-sex attraction"—a practice condemned by every major medical organization in the country.
- Plank 208 declares the party is "opposed to same-sex parenting, intentionally subjecting a child to the loss of their biological father or mother, and other non-traditional definitions of family."
- And Plank 211 calls for nullifying Obergefell v. Hodges, the Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage, stating it "has no basis in the Constitution."
- Importantly, many of these planks were in the 2024 platform… and the 2025 legislative session saw some of them actually passed, such as a bathroom ban for transgender people.
>>2849476Damn, want to ban gay marriage as well? Maybe this will hurt them in November but who knows.
>>2849475Even though by the time of the red terror the whites were in disarray
>>2849479I doubt it will
>>2849476I could see tgis happening
>>2849476Are they gonna try to secede again? This site needs a good anti-Dixie flag too.
>>2849475chudtube will lose because history will continue to bury chuddery
>>2849483This isnt Chud tube and chudtube is a bunch of sharty user(no seriously) and some xitterfags so I could see them grow into something
>>2849489From lib to commie to lib again it’s sad also by democratic socialist he doesn’t democratic socialism but rather social democracy
>>2849491True if you ask the modern day liberal they’ll call Robespierre a authoriatarian for some reason it’s sad!
>>2849495This will lead in the future people to approve revolutionary socialism over democratic socialism and capitalism
>>2849499>>2849500>these people are communistsI wjsh they were
>>2849465>>2849469I think there’s a lot of just assumptions in modern left wing thought, I think there’s value in just plain English that abstract artistic representation doesn’t hit. It can be assumed that a revolution means certain consequences falling on billionaires but to come out and say “Kill x,y, and z” hits a certain chord.
DC mayor also DSA socialist, the fucking mayor of the capitol will be a socialist
they gave some kid in texas 30 years in prison for having antifascist magazines
>>2849512Snopes when was this
>>2849495>Capitalism is distinctly supported by White votersWhy?
Man, the one time that I'm not regularly on the internet and something crazy like this happens.
>>2849520American Caucasian voters tend to be on the older side
>>2849520Pretty much what
>>2849522 said. Though I’d add that the white population of the United States also got first dibs on the jobs that reinforce capitalism (small business owners, PMC types) or otherwise have “buy in” to the system. The downwardly mobile, working class whites either embrace the politics of nihilistic reaction or become more open to socialist ideas.
>>>2849522 (me)>>2849526I personally think it's an interesting development. 10 years ago everyone was talking about how all socialists were pasty/white, and had some data to back it up. That dynamic seems to be gone now.
>>2849527It’s a positive development either way. I think Trump being explicitly, violently racist really helps Socialism’s growth among non white groups.
Course I’d like the demographic breakdown in detail, with age differences accounted for as well. Personally I want to see it grow among white people in addition to non-white groups; makes it harder for capitalists to play the race card.
>>2849527>10 years ago everyone was talking about how all socialists were pasty/white, and had some data to back it upThat was false propaganda from the start. If you actually looked at polling data back then Latino and especially black voters saw sympathy towards socialism while white voters were always on the lower end.
>>2849529critical support for DSA and MAGA against demonkraps
>>2849535If these guys win, what in terms of policy/legislation could we potentially see?
>>2849532I thought rightoids loved calling socialists black trans and gay though
>>2849408Hey can't blame a bear for getting into the honey
>>2849479Probably not. Also the Texas GOP wanting to ban gay marriage again is not new. Texas GOP platform is like a giant crazy culture-war bucketlist written by activists, and the national media based in New York and D.C. seizes it on every time they update it and pluck out the craziest stuff, and they're like damn look at Texas being crazy again. It's routine. The Texas GOP can be crazy but it's really run by mega-rich oil tycoons and real-estate developers with names like Trammell Strayhorn who have private booths at the Dallas Opera and they never read it.
>>2849540trump respects winners.
>>2849540Laura Loomers downfall will be hilarious
>>2849534I proposed an idea ages ago that Communists should be trying to organize in rural hinterlands but beyond that I think it really comes down to acknowledging “whites” as a demographic, dividing that demographic based on income or class, then polling that demographic with a variety of questions and trying to figure out what can lead it towards Socialism.
Though I’d say I also think it’d have to grow separate from other mainstream socialist orgs to prevent a mutual hostility from undermining progress
>>2849541Truke. Conservative voters seem to only care about idpol shit. The left seems to do that too to some degree, but again, with these victories we might finally be breaking out of the idpol shitflinging contest.
>>2849457liberals get super fucking asshurt when you use it against them
>>2849548That's not a human being. That's a pitbull wearing a human skin suit.
>>2849506Why doesnt CPUSA kill anyone then? Is saying KILL PEOPLE not scientific?
>>2849537Honestly it will be seen as we had 2018 as a prototype. So they may put pressure on the democrats or the democrats are going to continue to shoot their foot trying to stop the trend. The real challenge is 2028 because some random politicians will begin pretending that they were with Mamdani the entire time and should support him
Newsom >>2849571CPUSA might actually discipline him for simply saying that lmao
>>2849555I love Pitties.
>>2849558>>2849571>>2849575Why in the world should we advertise illegal activity on a public forum?
>>2849549True though some conservatives are mad at landlord and. Bourgeois. But then they blame it on idpol lik I swear man sometimes THEYRE kinda close to class. Consciousness but them they blame it on x group
>>2849548based. if only he extended this sort of humanity towards
check notes Iraqis and Afghans
>>2849578>bold of her to do the bare minimum especially cause she might make retards seetheThis is very lib coded though she is doing what most(congressme) dont though still
Are the Dixiecrats making a come back?
>>2849590College educated vs high school education
dick see crats haha
>>2849576>Why in the world should we advertise illegal activity on a public forum?to waste the feds time because aint nobody doing shit
>>2849590false consciousness. lack of Marxist education. nobody going to the masses.
Has Carlson and MTG named the party they will form yet or is it still in the air?
>>2849599The Burger Reich Arbeiter Partei (BRAP)
>>2849599Marge what are you talking about
>>2849580>IRAN IS BRAINWASHING TRUMPIt's weaponized perfume that Iranian agents have wafted into the White House, a man of culture like Trump can't resist
>>2849602Tucker Carlson and MT Greene are making a big stink about the Republican Party in order to pull some of its voters into another party. I'm wondering if that third party already exists or if they are to lead the founding of it. They have denied interest in the Democratic Party.
>>2849619Interesting Snopes?
>>2849590Only a small minority of proletarian yanks vote and this small minority is most reactionary. Voting in america is essentially walking into a police station and getting photographed for practically no reason. Only the fool submits himself to such terrifying and humiliating ordeal
>>2849598the proletarians are more lucid than you, as the science shows most of them had the sense to not bother with the quagmire of social democracy.
>>2849578You think we were joking? We're the goddamn federal government we don't joke, we docket and move.
You sat there in your little encrypted chat rooms, posting "just wait, very soon, you'll see," and we archived every single one of those threats while you patted yourselves on the back. Well, this is the "soon" we warned you about. The laughing stops today.
We are not picking and choosing. We are not limiting this to recent footage. We are going back through years of metadata every black bloc rally, every shattered storefront, every BLM bitch masked face we can match to a jawline, every burner phone pinged near an ultra-left, Third-Worldist, anti-colonial rally. If you so much as held a sign next to an autonomous collective, you are in our binders. If you traded reading lists with a Jucheposter acolyte, you are on our RICO exhibit list. Doesn't matter if it was 2011, 2016, or last Tuesday statutes of limitations don't apply when we write the new statutes. The charges and years you face will make drug trafficking look preferable.
You all laughed when we said, "NOBODY WILL SAY A DAMN THING." You sighed, you screen-shotted it, you memed it. Look at the federal dockets now. Look at the arrest feeds. Who's speaking up for your comrades? Crickets. Because they're too busy lawyering up, which cant help you anymore or booking one-way flights that we've already flagged. If you guys even think you can escelate the military unrest squads built with the DHS units will gladly mow you down with lead, and that includes in raids, which is a big part of Military GWOT. So a soldier will kick your door, shoot to kill.
Prison is the minimum outcome here. We are processing binders full of affidavits, and we have the judicial green light to bury this entire little "Maoist and Anarchist united vanguard" six feet under the penitentiary. If you force our hand if you resist, if you riot, if you try to play revolutionary martyr we will escalate beyond handcuffs. We will put you in the ground right next to your dead ideology.
The party is over. The boots are on the pavement, the no-knocks are scheduled, and the rest of your pathetic little network is getting scooped up or killed, very very soon.
You should have taken the first post seriously. Now? It's just processing time. Enjoy your last days of "organizing and agitating," because the only organizing you're going to be doing from here on out is deciding which cell block or shallow grave you want to rot in. and like we said, nobody is saying anything about it. the choir will preach to the choir and the masses will go on with their life, many even cheering. most people hate these cucks.
>>2849632>Enjoy your last days of "organizing and agitating,"Damn I guess we're gonna have to switch up our tactics like getting elected to Congress and the mayor of New York City, da Big Apple baby
>>2849632the chad jibbidy slop
>>2849633Well, I was just getting into that actually.
We are fully aware that many of you have convinced yourselves that sanctuary city ordinances, sympathetic local DAs, and dense urban geography make you untouchable. That is wrong and we are happy to let you continue believing it right up until the moment we extract you.
but yeah our federal intel packages pulling from DHS, the DOJ, and financial forensics clearly show a concentration of hardened anarchist and Maoist-aligned actors nesting in these specific municipal zones. they are future containment zones we have deliberately mapped and we will turn them into gaza if we cant claim them back for the american people. We know the DSA and its adjacent front groups have been heavily infiltrated and, in many cases, outright captured by these ultra-left Third Worldist cadres who masquerade as harmless democratic socialists to blend in with the reformist crowd. We track the factional splits internally. We know which chapters are compromised and which are simply useful idiots. Some of you even believe you have successfully thwarted our prosecutorial reach through local political interference. You haven't. We've simply been prioritizing our binders.
if this situation escalates to open, sustained civil resistance and we are preparing for that contingency the only regions with the logistical density and political cover to attempt prolonged secessionist posturing are the Northeast corridor and the West Coast and yes they have actors willing to flirt with this. For instance multiple progressive district attorneys have blocked us from arresting anarchists, and even used the sheriff to surveil us surveilling antifa, this is already an act of secession from the power of the federal government showing these districts are captured by anarchists and communists. We acknowledge that reality and we reported that places like Portland,NYC,philadelphia, were anarchist districts in 2020s. We have already staged federal rapid response assets on the periphery of those zones. We are running constant geospatial threat mapping to account for every possible retreat route.
If you are outside those designated blue zones like in the Midwest, the South, or the interior West were coming sooner. You are sitting in low-density, high-visibility terrain, we have judges and local officials who would love to see you hung by rope, quite literally. The federal district court has already expanded its jurisdiction over your activities, and the no knock execution phase for your region begins within the next 72 to 96 hours. many wont be reported on. You will hear the breaching before you hear the reading of your rights or any news.
If you are currently tucked into Portland, Seattle, New York, Boston, or the Bay Area, Philadelphia, or any of these coastal socialist areas, understand that your timeline is simply different not absent. We view those cities not as sovereign territories, just occupied municipal districts currently held by a hateful force of third world communist agitators and autonomous anarchist enclaves. We are currently in the interdiction and surveillance phase within your boundaries. The final phase the federal reclamation of American land is already drafted and waiting for a single executive trigger. We will go to war with these cities we will invade, Iraq style.
We are not going to negotiate with you. we arent above using drones on you. you think the federal government would have issue with dropping some problem solvers on some violent commies? NOPE.
When the federal apparatus decides it is time to reclaim those coastal districts, we will not be asking for permission. We will enter, clear, and secure. If you are inside when that happens, you will be processed alongside everyone else who thought the Constitution's territorial clause didn't apply to them.
Your sanctuary is a temporary bureaucratic headache for us, not a permanent shield, so good luck, you cannot run forever.
>>2849635We will use grok to reclaim the nation. cope.
>>2849636>blocked us from arresting anarchists and surveilled us surveilling antifaAre you doing over-the-top effort rage bait? Or are you stupid/maliciously evil enough to think that it’s good to arrest/lynch people for believing in economic cooperation and social freedoms? Do you ever look in the mirror and think that you could do something more moral with your life?
>>2849636You lost to Iran
>based maoist 3rd worldists have infiltrated the DSA
Even the so-called fed believes in the LARP holy…
>>2849636That 400-year sentencing spread across a handful of your buddies from the recent sweeps? That wasn't justice. That was a proof of concept. We ran that play here in the Fifth Circuit to show you how easy it is. Now we're scaling up in the future
> we aren't sending you to a federal supermax> we're sending you to the desertThere are private detention facilities out in West Texas that don't officially exist. County lockups in the Panhandle where the sheriff is a federal reservist. Holding tanks near the border where the temperature hits 110 degrees and the medical response time is never. You won't be processed through normal channels. Your name won't hit the public docket. You'll just… stop existing between the time the unmarked van leaves the interstate and the time it pulls through a gate that doesn't have a sign.
You think the local DAs in Travis County will save you? They can't. We've already got concurrent jurisdiction memorandums signed with every rural sheriff from the Rio Grande to the Red River. Sanctuary cities don't mean shit in the unincorporated stretches of this state. Out there, it's just us, the mesquite, and your rapidly deteriorating mental state.
Our sentencing, 400 years, centuries in prison is not a realistic punishment, it is our public statement, that going forward, our intent is to
erase your fucking lives by any means necessary.
>>2849638no this is a thing, Seattle,Portland, and NYC and Philadelphia are some of the biggest culprits. do you want me to find news articles where my colleagues quoted what i said? i mean they're old ill have to dig.
https://www.theroot.com/new-york-city-portland-ore-and-seattle-declared-anarchist-jurisdictions-by-department-of-justice אתם חושבים שאתם מהפכנים אתם חרא ג'וצ'ה אנחנו יודעים בדיוק מי עומד מאחורי הבלוגים המזוינים שלכם אנרכיסטים חבורה של ילדים מפונקים שאין להם מושג מה זה מדינה אמיתית טראד וורלדיסטים אתם שונאים את המערב כי אתם לא מסוגלים לבנות כלום בעצמכם אנחנו ציונים אנחנו יודעים להכות חזק יותר מכל חלום רטוב שלכם על השמדת האימפריה יש לנו מעקב אחרי כל אחד מכם יש לנו תיקים עבים יותר מהגולגולות הריקות שלכם אתם חושבים שהעיריות המקדשות אתכם יצילו אתכם הן לא יוכלו להגן עליכם כשנחליט לבוא כי אנחנו לא באים עם חוקים אנחנו באים עם אש הגיע הזמן שתכירו את החיים האמיתיים כשציון זועמת אף אחד לא בטוח תמשיכו לפרסם את הבלוגים המטומטמים שלכם אבל דעו כל פוסט שלכם הוא עדות שתוקרא בהליך המשפטי שלכם ואין לנו שום כוונה לתת לכם לראות אור יום תתכוננו כולכם תשלמו על כל מילה שכתבתם על כל קריאה להרס אנחנו כבר יודעים מי אתם איפה אתם ואיפה אתם ישנים בלילה אל תנסו לברוח כי אנחנו בכל מקום ובכל פינה יש לנו עיניים בכל קיר ויש לנו יד ארוכה שתגיע אליכם גם אם תחשבו שהסתתרתם טוב אנחנו לא שוכחים ואנחנו לא סולחים אתם תראו מה קורה כשאנחנו מחליטים לפעול זה לא יהיה משפט זה יהיה הוצאה להורג בשקט בלי עדים בלי עיתונאים בלי כלום רק אתם והקיר והחושך אז תמשיכו לחלום על המהפכה שלכם כי היא הולכת להפוך לסיוט שלכם ואנחנו נהיה שם לצפות אתם לא מבינים מול מי אתם עומדים אנחנו המדינה האמיתית אנחנו הכוח האמיתי ואנחנו לא מתפשרים עם אויבים
>chuunifaggotry
>>2849642This is incredibly obvious LARP
>>2849645you people are a joke you accused my colleague of lying about the anarcho-juche grift and then when the philadelphia wsa website lists a memorial for their member who was openly an anarchist and obsessed with juche a national leader of the kfa absolutely crickets from you go ahead come to our social media and call us larp its clear youre all just autistic shut ins who dont know what the fuck youre talking about once you get into our algorithm you see these statements of truth leftypol is not unique to these words or what about when you said my colleagues blatant claims of the anarchist and maoist united front that was formed around shadowy figures were bullshit then we post evidence of this all across the ultra lefts internet diaspora anyone with a brain can read the maoist street code and see it aligns with these claims leftypol is more disconnected from the ground than reddit leftists you idiots seem to be too deep into hentai to realize the coming war unfolding right before your fucking feet.
what are you on about?
>>2849655well some of you might not be in the USA. the federal government is going to end the lives of anarchists, maoists, as punishment for their years of uncontested LARPING as a decentralized united vanguard. A judge, who is involved with our undisclosed networks of organizations in an effort to take back America handed them decades in prison. 400 years between them. This is our message that the goal is to end and erase their lives. We have other judges in these networks, it's called the federalist society. look into it, then seethe and cope. or grab the popcorn and watch antifa get erased. Democrats in power want this too because antifa is the base for their enemy within the party as we see with black bloc showing up to protect zohran.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-antifa-cell-members-north-texas-sentenced-100-years-prison-terrorist-attack-iceoday, the Justice Department announced that eight North Texas Antifa Cell operatives were sentenced for their roles in rioting, using weapons and explosives, providing material support to terrorists, obstruction, and the attempted murder of an Alvarado police officer at the Prairieland Detention Center on July 4, 2025. This is the first sentencing of defendants affiliated with Antifa following President Donald J. Trump’s executive order
designating the group as a Domestic Terrorist Organization in September 2025.
Benjamin Hanil Song, who was convicted of the attempted murder of a law enforcement officer, was sentenced to 100 years in prison. Together, the Prairieland terrorists received a combined sentence of 450 years in prison:
Maricela Rueda was sentenced to 70 years in prison;
Cameron Arnold was sentenced to 50 years in prison;
Savanna Batten was sentenced to 50 years in prison;
Zachary Evetts was sentenced to 50 years in prison;
Bradford Morris was sentenced to 50 years in prison;
Elizabeth Soto was sentenced to 50 years in prison; and
Daniel Rolando Sanchez-Estrada was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
“The sentences handed down today make clear that Antifa terrorists who attack law enforcement and federal facilities will face swift and uncompromising justice,” said Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche. “Their violent extremism has no place in our country, and the Department of Justice will continue to aggressively investigate, disrupt, and prosecute those who threaten law enforcement officers or undermine the rule of law.”
“Today’s sentencings show the FBI remains committed to identifying, locating, and dismantling Antifa and its funding networks across the country,” said FBI Director Kash Patel. “Acts of violence against our law enforcement partners will not be tolerated, and we continue our work to protect communities across the country from domestic terrorism.”
“These sentences justly punish the vicious, armed attack that these Antifa cell members planned and executed against law enforcement and detention center officers on the night of July 4th last year,” said U.S. Attorney Ryan Raybould for the Northern District of Texas. “Their terrorist acts, attempted murder, vandalism, and explosives launched at a detention facility were a far cry from a peaceful protest or First Amendment expression. Because of the prompt action of first responders that night and tenacious work of our law enforcement partners, in tandem with the prosecutors in my office, eight people have been rightly punished for these violent acts and their attempts to conceal them. We will continue in this mission to hold others accountable who perpetrate such violence and fund these ANTIFA groups in the Northern District of Texas.”
“The sentences handed down today send an unmistakable message: Attacks on federal officers and facilities will not be tolerated. The men and women of ICE serve with integrity and courage, often in challenging and dangerous environments. The calculated violence carried out by these Antifa cell members at Prairieland was an assault on law enforcement and an attack on the rule of law itself,” said Acting ICE Director David J. Venturella. “Nearly one year after this cowardly act, justice has prevailed. ICE will continue to stand firm against those who threaten our officers, our facilities and our mission.”
The sentences follow a 12-day trial that began on Feb. 23, where jurors heard testimony from 46 witnesses and considered over 210 exhibits supporting the charges against nine indicted defendants: Cameron Arnold, also known as Autumn Hill; Zachary Evetts; Benjamin Song; Savanna Batten; Bradford Morris, also known as Meagan Morris; Maricela Rueda; Elizabeth Soto; Ines Soto; and Daniel Rolando Sanchez-Estrada. All were convicted. Ines Soto was granted a continuance and will be sentenced on July 1.
Seven others, Seth Sikes, Nathan Baumann, Joy Gibson, Susan Kent, Rebecca Morgan, Lynette Sharp, and John Thomas, pleaded guilty prior to trial to one count of providing material support to terrorists and they will be sentenced on July 1.
Testimony and other evidence at trial established that the defendants were members of a North Texas Antifa Cell, part of a larger militant enterprise made up of networks of individuals and small groups primarily ascribing to an ideology that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and the system of law. An expert testifying in the government’s case told the jury that ANTIFA’s coordinated efforts involve obstructing Federal law through organized riots, violent assaults, and armed confrontations with law enforcement officers, increasingly targeting agents and facilities related to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Immigration and Customs Enforcement in opposition to the agency’s deportation actions.
Evidence at trial revealed that most of the ANTIFA Cell involved in the Prairieland attack looked to Benjamin Song as a leader. Song acquired firearms that he distributed to co-defendants and recruited members at gun ranges and combat sessions he conducted, as well as from various ideologically aligned groups. For example, defendants Ines Soto, Elizabeth Soto, and Savanna Batten were part of a group that created and distributed insurrectionary materials called “zines,” according to trial evidence.
Trial testimony reflected that, late at night on July 4, 2025, at least eleven of the defendants rioted and attacked the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, which the U.S. Department of Homeland Security was using to house illegal aliens awaiting deportation. The defendants dressed in “black bloc”—dark clothing with head and face coverings that concealed their identities—designed to hide each individual’s identity but also to aid and abet those members engaged in illegal acts by making members indistinguishable from one another to law enforcement. Evidence introduced at trial revealed that the defendants brought eleven firearms, body armor, and eleven military-grade first aid kits with tourniquets and other items to treat gunshot wounds to the scene of the attack. Many of these items were introduced by the government as exhibits. Additionally, DNA and fingerprint evidence linked many of the defendants to the items at the scene, and evidence obtained on phone locations supported that those who participated in the attack all turned off their phones or placed them in Faraday bags to prevent tracking on the night of the attack.
>>2849656oh and if you think youve gotten away with this in the past, you did, but were coming. stand by. we keep saying, NSPM7 changes everything. Plan a demonstration, and someone lights a trash bin on fire, you and your organization all get erased. As individuals. as in you have no more life.
>>2849658Think its cute to spraypaint on a zionists house, or so much as pass shitty cringe maoist literature to someone who then later does something like that, then guess what, your lifes over. youll be hunted like a drug trafficker with none of the resources or balls of one. do any of you know anything about american society at all? look at the build up of gwot with obama. nspm7 now means we technically can kill you if you are an anti american 3rd worldist, as in use military lethal action on you. we can disappear you. this is just our opening act and statement! gear up
go read the comments, people are celebrating this in mass. America wants to see antifa-types who attack their society hung. this is bipartisan. it was fun while it lasted, kids, but now your times over and America is coming back. Liberals are ready to see this get finished with too, theyre more sick of antifa palestine lovers than they are us. you will be removed from american society, and like i said, check the comments on normal social media, most americans think this is amazing and want antifa dead.
>>2849661>check the nazi billionaire algorithmic mouthpiece to know what people thinkI'm good
>>2849662you think this is a joke until you realize the CIA is pulling strings to remove the ultra left. the CIA is who pulled stringed to equip police with COINTELPRO against communism and this is on their website. you guys have every bit of society against you from liberal to fascist. this is so beautiful. Keep coping autist. The only way out of this is you disappearing to a place of our chosen for eternity, going far far away from the USA, or dying in a hail of bullets like a larper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSPM-7National Security Presidential Memorandum-7 (NSPM-7), titled "Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence",[1] is a United States National Security Presidential Memorandum (NSPM) issued by President Donald Trump on September 25, 2025. It tasks federal agencies with dismantling networks associated with politically motivated violence, particularly those linked to "anti-fascism", illegal immigration disruptions, and riots
>>2849664All of western society / Mossad / CIA vs Antifa
hmmm im going to go with…? the only thing that scares us about yall is the possible china and korea connection and if theres bigger phases, but as individuals yall are pawns waiting to be turned into martyrs for somebody elses master plan against the west
>>2849642I’m not saying the far right doesn’t control the government. Look around, the justice system is a draconian shithole. I’m saying why are you siding with something so obviously evil? Or are you just embracing your life as a CIA bot/drone for the bourgeois elitist state?
It's obviously AI. Come on now.
You know usually when people scare people, they don't have to try this hard. If you have to write 10 essays about why people should be afraid of you, you already lost.
>>2849673
Ok…?
>>2849675
>>2849673
Bruh I've lost track of your LARP characters. So one of them is the fed and the other is the revolutionary o algo?
>>2849675
>100 years for fireworks, might as well use real lethality then
Isn't that just the logical conclusion? Look at the costs of submitting vs rebelling. 30-50 years in one of America's rape slave camps for having some zines. Your life is over even assuming you survive inside prison and are actually released one day. On the other hand if you don't give yourself up you have the chance of surviving a shootout and escaping the country at least.
>>2849689if thats the conclusion than you might as well admit that you believe it's time for the islamic radicals to return the favor to antifa and show them what happens when you're terrorists. and that would be a very bold and dangeorus conclusion to make so publicly here…
What do we do about the "'Israel' Question?" Like something needs to be done eventually right? Like I really don't give a fuck about the holocaust.
>>2849690>if thats the conclusion It's the logical conclusion. The real question is will most anarchists have the guts to go through with it? Maybe not at first but as the persecution ramps up they will become like cornered rats and attack out of desperation.
Currently most of your antifa supersoldiers are in fact college age radlibs and liberal idealists. They essentially thought a big protest will force a change in the system. They haven't actually attacked government in mass at all. It's all been low level random shooting to scare cops away and then they gave themselves up afterwards. But giving people decades of prison time for simply being at a protest will do nothing but turn a bunch of annoying loud mouths with blue hair into people who mathematically will have a better chance of life by shooting cops.
It's a simple calculation: if protesting gives you the same treatment as just outright shooting politicians and CEOs then why would they stick to protests? After all the consequences are now the same.
Conservatives just take compliance for granted. They don't realize that by promising fair trial and punishment commiserate with the crime they give normal people incentive not to go ballistic and to give themselves up. Throw out the fairness by giving these ridiculous 50 year prison sentences and people will no longer give themselves up for arrest like they have been.
>it's time for the islamic radicals to return the favor to antifaI not sure what you mean here.
Board is so slow it's just two LLMs having a strange LARP conversation with each other.
>>2849700* or one with itself rather
bruh. history did end.
>>2849680the "if you take it to court we will elevate charges" is just them being embarrassed about the story going public and the thought of a lawyer grilling them over it. he should definitely take it to court.
>>2849642>We ran that play here in the Fifth Circuit to show you how easy it is>weFucking kill yourself, dweeb
>>2849632Kys glowie go back to Fairfax county
>>2849671
>fuggen antifa
Kys left kkkom
It's pretty cute to see you so called historical materialists ignoring the historical circumstances of the DSAs birth and treating them like another party instead of an explicitly anti-communist organization that was founded for the express purpose of destroying the American left.
For people who are so into reading and nothing else, I find it difficult to believe none of you have read Harrington
>>2849831There aren't any DSA supporters in this thread are there?
>>2849834Has Houdini posted yet?
>>2849838Fairly certain he's abandoned this place
The DSA is the only revolutionary org in the USA, and even maybe north america
>>2849838Houdini is in the DSA but seems to be very critical of it
There is, notably, one DSA supporter in this thread and it's the same person who spends all his days focus testing new forms of fascism to merge with leftist aesthetics. I'm sure that's not a coincidence or anything…
>>2849851At least he's doing something. What are you supposed 'communists' doing, huh? Finding new ways to bitch about your parents asking you to find jobs and be valuable functioning members of society
>>2849853Bitching about how anti-imperialism is actually evil and has sabotaged his monomaniacal quest to get more warhammer toys for himself is not "doing something" and the fact that you think it is means you are absolutely a part of the problem.
>>2849853Doing that is less bad then being a DSA member, the only thing DSA does is dickride the democrat party and be goyslaves to israel.
>>2849848Well he uncritically posts articles by neo-nazi outlet Crimethinc so that tracks
>>2849855The Warhammer must flow
god punished Venezuela with that earthquake for submitting to the US, especially after Iran could prove you can make amerikkka unconditionally surrender just by putting the mildest resistance
>>2849839Not enough tattoo money.
>>2849851>focus testing new forms of fascism to merge with leftist aesthetics.Conventional communist organizing in the west has failed. Taking notes from other political thinkers and trying out something new is a smart move. Much better than trying to replicate 20th century failures all over again.
>>2849857yes yes i can't imagine why no one serious posts here when being slandered as a neo nazi is so easy for you
Why even call people neo nazis? Just call them American, America has done hundreds of times more damage to the world than nazi germany. Nazi Germany was an attempt at doing America in Europe. If anything you should call Nazis Americans.
>>2849864It's a little thing called branding. Besides this kind of take just lets the Nazis off the hook, yes AmerKKKa is evil but they've also been around for hundreds of years, the Nazis were so evil and so serious destructive they annihilated themselves.
>>2849868Self destructive
>>2849868Hitler and the Nazis have played sin eater for the collective west since WWII despite literally just copying European colonial policy and American Manifest Destiny and applying it to Europe. It’s time we admit as such.
>>2849872Don’t forget that American culture was and still is so barbaric and genocidal that even the Nazis thought they were going to far. Jesse Owens remarked that he was treated better by the German Reich than he ever was by the Amerikkkan state, this was of course before blacks were officially incorporated into the herrenvolk. Even as ghastly as Generalplan Ost was, it was considered MILD compared to Amerikkkan and Israeli general policy
>>2849876If I were an anti Stalinist, I would argue he betrayed the revolution not by ending the NEP or purging anyone or legalizing alcohol, but by allying with the UK and US. He should have slit that cripple FDR’s throat when they were in the same room.
>>2849864nobody gives a shit about hitler or nazis outside the west
>>2849880Liberal democrat news fake
>>2849885You’re in /USA/pol
DSA soon to usher in full communism. Naysayers and ultras bitch and moan but they will eat their words when we send every fascist to the McGulags (maoists included)
It's only a matter of time before Comrade Platner rapes every third worldist eco fash sweatshop worker into submission. American communism will dominate the globe with an iron fist.
>>2849816Yeah we know, thanks for telling us
>>2849810>glowie guy spams, about half gets removed and the other half left up>>2849816>someone posts this>>2849831>this gets posted and people start bitingyou guys are kinda dumb. you fall for the same disruptions every thread.
>>2849893> third worldist eco fash sweatshop worker???????????????????? what does this even mean? since when has sweatshops ever given a fuck about the environment????????????????????????????
>>2849903Maybe they "fall for it" because not even these deluded Strasserites can deny the fact that the DSA was explicitly founded to destroy the American left because Harrington thought the anti war movement was "authoritarian"
>>2849872>west bad, time to admit itok. admitted… what next?
>>2849908There was never an American left to destroy in the first place
every thread starts with
>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™
but some narcissists still feel the need to tell everyone america bad like we don't fucking know. yes we know manifest destiny inspired lebensraum and greater israel.
>>2849904Buzzword salad used by people only on xitter
>>2849912>just quit your job, pack up your family, learn a new language, and move to a place they don't want filthy burgers, it's easy browhy would I do such a ridiculous thing to satisfy the ego of strangers who are also trolls?
>>2849913Are you supposed to read this in the voice of the microphone guy from The Road Warrior or the radio DJ from The Warriors?
>>2849915You misunderstand, that’s one route you could take, the other is to become an easterner in the west, be the outsider from the inside, try to be an enclave of easternness surrounded by westerners, deprogram those around you that can be
>>2849876Lol fuck off Nazi apologist.
>>2849910There was a large, militant anti-war movement which Harrington specifically opposed and had a life long vendetta against. The DSA was founded in reaction to that movement by a man who thought anti-imperialism was a distraction from important issues at best and an "authoritarian" deviation at worst.
>>2849925>DSA>not DSSA stylized with SS runesBoooooo, you're not the real Iron Felix. Get off the stage and stop LARPing
>>2849925The anti war movement was never “large”, it was all college kids who wanted to avoid being drafted so they could do acid in the woods without killing people unlike the soldiers who were doing the same in Vietnam and killing people
>>2849928The anti war movement was the animating force for an entire generation of left wing activists but Harrington specifically denied it and wanted to create a pro-war "left" which fought against "authoritarianism"
The fact that none of you will even attempt to reckon with the DSA's unique history as an explicitly imperialist and anti-communist organization which exists to funnel the energy of the left into the Democratic party means that you are not anywhere near the materialists you say you are. You are nothing but Strasserites who want to use the relentless pillaging of the world to provide a better standard of living for yourself personally at the cost of every other human being alive. Of course, none of you consider them human beings, because they aren't American.
>>2849928>it was all college kids who wanted to avoid being draftedSo the target of anti-war ideology then
>>2849938Touch grass and stop living in the past.
>>2849548As a gay repressoid I reject his endorsement
>>2849963The SSpirit of kkkrakkker socialism lives on
>>2849963Notice their golden girl is AOCIA so saying the legacy isn't there is naive like most socdems
>>2849954greatest gen memes smh
>>2849967Geg
>>2849937True though the DSA has become more leftist and has actual revolutionaries party pre-2016 DSA members make up like 20% or less of the party
>>2849967these fuckers have spent the last year and a half going out of their way to do nothing about people suffering under fascist government, now they're outraged that people are turning somewhere else to solve their problem
It's really sad the extent some individuals will go to bring down the quality of an already dying website for the sake of trolling and contrarianism. Wouldn't you agree?
>>2850007>It's really sad the extent some individuals will go to bring down the quality of an already dying website for the sake of trolling and contrarianism. Wouldn't you agree?Yes. I feel like the imageboard format was always limited in its ability to prevent trolling, even though it allows for anonoymity and free speech. But with scripts and LLMs I think things have gotten significantly worse.
>>2849991The alliance with the liberals included social democrats against fascism you retard
>>2850007>dying website I’ll revive it
>>2850011>The alliance with the liberals included social democrats against fascism you retardyes, that's kind of the implied joke …. maybe I need to get better at making jokes.
>>2850011>I’ll revive itWE'RE GONNA
VOTE VOTE VOTE
IT'S OUR MOMENT
>>2849967<Centrists on suicide watch, you love to see itburger centrists should look no further than lincoln's assassination to see that their ideology is a failure
>be lincoln>win civil war>instead of hanging confederate generals, be foriving, kind, christian towards them>instead of running term 2 as a republican, create a new party called "national unity">term 2, instead of making a republican hardliner your VP, make a southern democrat your VP>instead of doing radical reconstruction, do limpdick reconstruction>despite all these concessions you made towards people you literally defeated in a war get assassinated by them anyway>your drunk racist southern democrat VP further sabotages reconstruction>in 1877 confederate and union generals team up to put down the great strike, officially bringing reconstruction to an endvid related
>>2849264Boom sha-lacka-ka-lacka, the uniparty doesn’t like me.
No more mental masturbation.
I think I found a cure for my creative frustration.
Open seats in campaign:
More information in the next post.
>>2850015Fascism was bigger threat the western and eastern fronts were drastically different
>>2850016We NUSOIS will win and bring back leftpol
>>2850017
Getchan is cool
>>2850010Oh definitely, having legitimate conversations was already hard enough with organic bad faith actors and scripts, but in the post-discourse world where you can shape your worldview however you like coupled with the rise of LLMs means that any internet community will invariably be dominated by whoever shouts the loudest and the longest. Which was kinda already the case but even more so nowadays. The only real recourse to this is for moderators to make doing so such a hassle that they eventually just take the hint and move on.
>>2849995Honestly I would not be surprised at all if juuuuuuust the right amount of Senate/House Dems "suddenly" agree to approve the SAVE America Act, just to spite the left. The swiftness they react to even mild socdems compared to egregious shit fascists do is night and day
>>2850018True if Lincoln had taken a more radical step we would’ve eventually gotten to socialism
>>2850017
So you want to fight child porn by….posting links to child porn for all the world to see? Bad trolls always find a way to indicate that they don't believe what they cry about, and it's all for getting a rise out of people
>>2850038>posting cp linksOyyyy doctos
>>2850017>/get/chan sad, that shit has been known for a long time and nothing is really done about it, just don't go the twitter or /get/ at this point
>One time a mod banned me 4 weeks because i reported a child porn "shota" thread in siberia with title "Boyloving thread."don't go to /siberia/, although there's less of it now thanks to non-spoiled nsfw ban
>rest of this shit>>>/meta/
>You are DSA ziosoc pedophile loser. You are israeli. You are epstein. >to homofash flagfagbait, like the rest of the post, but the line goes hard out of context
>>2850007isn't the website dying precisely because you guys do nothing to bring in new users or make room for more varied discussion topics? or at least engage in some kind of outreach/advertising tbh.
2,000+ new DSA signups in the last 24 hours, DSA is rapidly approaching becoming the biggest American socialist organization in history, surpassing even the old SPA of Eugene Debs
>>2850051Nice though they are under a dictatorship of the. Bourgeois.
>>2850053Well yeah so is any socialist org prior to taking power and establishing a DOTP, shrimple as
>>2850065Its like Phish concerts for boomers that never have done drugs and dont listen to music.
>>2850051what exactly does DSA do differently from other socialist parties in America? besides winning elections I guess.
with the USA imposition of fascist governments on latin american countries UN votes with regards to israe's crimes will start looking different. democrats will use that as proof that opinion on israel is changing an to justify their own normalization of liberal zionism among their candidates
>>2850074They're basically an Actual Existing Popular Front of leftists, with increasing influence from the explicitly revolutionary tendencies
>>2850081
fuck off moralfag take it to reddit
>>2850082>with increasing influence from the explicitly revolutionary tendenciesis this true? I thought DSA were just male feminist types. are they becoming based??
>>2850095>he doesn't know about the openly Marxist, ML, and MLM caucusesOh I'm afraid that the DSA will become quite based when your comrades arrive…
>>2850095aaaaaaaaand redpilled 💊 🔴💊 🔴💊 🔴💊 🔴💊 🔴💊 🔴
>>2850155is this accounting for the amount of government money being thrown at the south to prop up Elon's companies?
>>2850166Literally whomst?
>>2850178Matt Christman, he's one of the hosts of Chapo Trap House.
After Bernie dropped out in 2020 he started doing his own vlogs on politics/culture/history up till his stroke in 23.
IMO the vlogs are more interesting then the show itself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iSSoHOslXE >>2850065>>2850067I heard a claim that part of the appeal of Trump rallies to his base is he's way more responsive to the crowd than a "typical politician" and so his supporters can delude themselves into thinking he's "doing something for them" or "listening to them". Like he'll be scanning the crowd constantly for their reactions and try to play to what they want to hear, as opposed to Dems trying to force some soundbites that a focus group told them would sound "presidential".
Like compare Trump actually backing off vaccines with "Well you should have your freedom, too" when a crowd booed him over it to Pete Buttigieg responding to an angry crowd with "This isn't the end of the conversation, it's the start." or Kamala Harris asserting "I'm speaking" when Palestine protesters heckled her.
>>2850074DSA is not a party, they endorse zionists and imperialists who say they will give everyone free HRT and trains paid for by the global south.
>>2850184That’s the right wing of the DSA though
millions of posts from twists seething at ypipo w/out once explaining how the abstract labor power down south gets transubstantiated into treats, just that it does
>>2850195They raid the South for treats and give them to their working class so they shut up its that simple
>>2850166>>2850181i was listening to the hinge points episode he did on lenin and it was the fault of lenin and the USSR that the USA couldn't turn communist
>>2850196they raid the global south for public transportation?
>>2850199They raid the global south for resources
You are ZioniSSt you are EpSStein. Your party DSSA supports the Demoncrakkka party. You consume HHRTreats extracted from dead Palestinian babies. The only good thing you can do for this world is to kill yourself now, it will be more pleasant than what we do to you. We do not forgive. We do not forget. Expect us.
>>2850210Do u wanna be friends
>>2850050the new generation of people just isn't that interested in imageboards. normies use discord and reddit and shit. and imageboard users are usually huge chuds. finding the very small venn diagram of people who want left wing politics and an imageboard at the same time is very difficult.
>>2850195i hope to god it's obvious how at the very least some of it is pretty direct
like look at the price of fair trade coffee vs folgers.
>>2850217i don't consume coffee, there's no need for drugs in my prvletraian body
>>2850217>like look at the price of fair trade coffee vs folgers.What does that mean? Is the coffee more or less expensive when it is soaked in the blood of third world children?
>>2850214ive met quite a few 4channers(mostly from r9k and hobby boards) that are left wing but don't engage with left-wing imageboards because they don't fit the culture. none of the lefty imageboards really adopted the original 4chan culture of being chaotic edgelords that make fun of everything and anything.
>>2850238Same could be said for every website
>>2850225coffee that comes through fair trade is about 50-75% more expensive, about a mid-premium brand.
the coffee, exotic fruit, and chocolate trades are pretty damn bad and almost certainly paying labor at below-replacement rate, ie. below value, if not just outright slavery.
that said it's not everything and certain elements of TWist claims on imperialism effective boil down to "marx was wrong because he didn't consider lines on maps"
>>2850225Willliam Nlum showed how global south leaders who refuse to take IMF loans get couped and replaced with leaders who will take IMF loans
Michael hudson shows how the global south countries that take IMF loans get stuck in structural adjustment programs which force them to grow consumer export crops like coffee instead of staple foods like grains which are required for self reliance
This forces the global south to rely on grain imports from the fertile soisl of the imperial core instead of being self reliant and growing their own food. Resisting this process results in CIA coups, sanctions, embargoes, assassinations, etc.
IMF led Structural adjustment programs also force privatization and union busting.
Think about a country that is forced to export coffee and import grain. What happens when the coffee reaches the imperial core? It is ground into powder, and soaked, to create a drink. Usually then it is thrown away. Some enterprising people like myself might compost the coffee grounds in their own personal garden beds. This results in more fertile soil in my back yard. The banana peels and coffee grounds which are imported for my consumption also make my back yard's soil more fertile. I am literally robbing the global south's soil of fertility to increase my own soil's fertility.
>>2850238that culture leads to people spamming slurs which naturally drives people away. especially if they are not white.
>>2850238>r9k>left wingI'm sorry if you suffer from male loneliness but come on brother
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>>2850194>right wing of dsaSo all of it?
>>2850327Theres communists and revsocs in DSA
>>2850314True they act like Mamdani is literally stalin
Prairieland Protesters Sentenced to 30 to 100 Years for “Terrorism” Chargeshttps://truthout.org/articles/prairieland-protesters-sentenced-to-30-to-100-years-for-terrorism-charges/
>On Tuesday, eight Texas anti-ICE protesters convicted on trumped-up terrorism charges earlier this year received decades-long sentences ranging from 30 to 100 years.
>Five of the defendants received 50-year sentences after being convicted of rioting and “providing material support to terrorists.” One received a 30-year sentence, and another a 70-year sentence. And Benjamin Song, convicted of attempted murder of an officer in addition to rioting and “providing material support to terrorists,” was sentenced to 100 years in prison.
>The eight protesters were convicted based on a July 4, 2025 protest at the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, where the activists used fireworks and noise-making to protest the immigrant jail and Trump’s anti-immigrant detentions. Police arrived at the scene, and later claimed that one of the protesters opened fire on an officer, who also shot at protesters. The next day, the FBI began raiding homes, and arresting and detaining protesters.
>One of the defendants, sentenced to 30 years in prison, was not even present at the July 4 protest.
>These sentences are far longer than any of the prison sentences given to January 6 rioters, the longest of which was 22 years for a member of the Proud Boys, a far right, neo-fascist militant group that embraces white nationalism, Islamophobia, and misogyny. The 22-year sentence was commuted to time served after President Donald Trump pardoned the Proud Boys member, along with some 1,500 other January 6 rioters.
>But the Prairieland defendants, on the other hand, have been smeared by prosecutors as part of an “antifa cell” – after Trump labeled “antifa” a terrorist organization last year, despite the fact that antifa is not an actual organization. And many of the Prairieland protesters did not know each other before the protest or have activist experience, but were moved to protest against Trump’s draconian policies.
>Days after Trump issued an executive order calling “antifa” a terrorist organization, he issued National Security Presidential Memorandum 7 (NSPM-7), which mandates federal agencies to investigate and disrupt groups linked to “left-wing violence.” This has allowed the Trump administration to crack down on left-wing groups that it associates with “antifa.”
>Family members of the Prairieland defendants have said that they plan to appeal. Family members and supporters said that the sentencing marks a dangerous precedent, and that the case is built on fabrications and smears against the protesters.
>The Prairieland case has been followed by other cases trumped-up charges against left-wing activists – including federal charges brought against eight Palestine solidarity activists in Michigan for pressuring the University of Michigan to divest from Israel, as well as against 15 protesters in Minnesota for their activism during ICE’s “Operation Metro Surge” in January. >>2850256He probably means individual users. Anyways incelism or male loneliness or whatever you want to call it is found among males of all political affiliations and demographics. The reasons might be different and maybe not particularly legitimate but they're there.
>>2850341True incel Dom isnt an ideology but rather some wired sex thingy
>>2850339if the next president doesn't pardon them the dems are cooked
>>2850339For all the incel guys, look on the bright side, at least you're not an incel because you're being incarcerated for 30 years for magazines.
>>2850363Not possible. Only the governor can pardon for state convictions.
>>2850339>>2850352The us empire is dying
>>2850374250th anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LET'S FUCKING
GO DIE
>>2850368how can the state charge someone for terrorism against a federal police force?
>>2850393It's called fascism bucko
>>2850399I mean that sounds like a reasonable argument for appeal on jurisdiction grounds to get the convictions thrown out. A dem president could definitely make it happen if they cared. They don't obviously but, ykno.
>>2850393My bad, you're right some of these might be federal charges, but apparently some are state charges.
>On October 21, a woman was arrested on a state charge of aiding in the commission of terrorism, bringing the total number of defendants to eighteen.[7] Maybe this is the only state charge.
>>2850384The ameikkkan regime will fall
>>2850403Just saying shit
>>2850404>a woman was arrested on a state charge of aiding in the commission of terrorismWow, why did she do that?
>>2850418Uh… That all sounds really scary. I don't understand a word.
>>2850337So larpers? We must voote
>>2850418>270lbseverything's bigger in texas
>>2850421THEYRE not larpers and we mustn’t vote
>>2850422That seems pretty high for someone who's 5'7".
Ohhhhhhhhh…………….. Thanks!
>>2850404The crackdown is not a product of one administration it is a structural continuity of the federal state apparatus that has been built up.
The bipartisan slope toward the weaponization of the GWOT apparatus against the domestic left did not begin with the current administration. It has been a decades-long project, accelerating under Obama, intensifying under Trump, and now reaching its logical conclusion under the expanded powers of NSPM-7. The targeting of Maoists, anarchists, Black liberation theorists, and critics of Zionism has been systematized across administrations. Do you remember the entire eco-terrorist scare? That's simply the FBI finding another way to criminalize revolutionary anarchists as terrorists. This is nothing new. The intelligence community has been preparing for this for years. The legal infrastructure was laid brick by brick, judge by judge, memorandum by memorandum.
It would be ahistorical to expect any party that has participated in this project to suddenly reverse course. The Democrats have had ample opportunity to curb the surveillance state, to restrict the use of terrorism designations against domestic dissent, to defend the right to political assembly. They have not. The material incentive structure of the two-party system is aligned against such a reversal. The project of repression is not a policy choice; it is a structural feature of the state's response to the emergence of a militant left. This is not a political cycle, this is a war.
>>2850431I guess everything is bigger in Texas.
>>2850439https://www.keranews.org/news/2026-06-11/judge-accepts-bond-reductions-for-some-prairieland-defendants
>Goering was arrested last October and charged with aiding in the commission of terrorism. Her bond was set at $5 million, but Bosworth lowered it to $275,000. Her attorneys requested it be decreased to $75,000.
>Goering is accused of participating in group chat exchanges with other defendants through Signal both before and after the shooting.
>Goering also allegedly gave the lone shooter, Benjamin Song, a Faraday bag he used at the Prairieland Detention Center, according to a criminal complaint. Faraday bags are used to block devices like phones from giving or receiving electromagnetic signals, preventing them from being tracked.
>Frank Sellers, Goering's attorney, argued during Thursday's hearing Goering should have her bond reduced after an appellate court on June 4 reversed a trial court's previous decision denying her previous request to have her bond reduced.
>Sellers claimed the text messages used as evidence against Goering don't mention her and prove she wasn’t present at the July 4 shooting.
>"It's clear she was not there," Sellers told Bosworth.
>Sellers also said while she may have been present with a group of other codefendants that helped Song evade arrest, it doesn't prove her intentions were to help him escape.
>And, he pointed to other codefendants having their bonds reduced.https://x.com/DFWSupCommittee/status/2067108881814180088
<Janette Goering is home!
<Janette’s bond was posted and she is home with her family! She will continue to need support fighting her case and putting her life back together. Thank you to everyone who shared and donated! Please continue to donate, spread the word, and
>"Tell my lovers and my haters I lived. Thank you all for supporting myself and my codefendants as we continue to fight against these allegations. It has meant the world to me to know we are not alone in this." - Janette >>2850443She didn't testify right?
>>2850444it says they paid the bond
>>2850443Nice how wholesome
Do not let liberals and pacifists tell you that the person who shot did wrong. Workers have a right to defend themselves from reactionary pigs, by whatever means they see fit
Song, the most harshly sentenced Prairieland defendant, having received a 100-year prison term, gave a moving statement in response to their sentence, explaining for the first time the motivations for their actions the night of the noise demonstration at the Prairieland ICE Detention Center. “What we all saw happen to Renee Good and Alex Pretti is my worst nightmare,” said Song. “So, when I was standing in the street on July 4th, 2025, in plain view with reflective safety strips and high visibility clothing, what I saw right in front of my eyes was my worst nightmare,” continued Song. “When I saw Lieutenant Thomas Gross stop pursuing and point his gun at the back of a running, unarmed protester, like he testified, I was terrified.”
“As a firearms instructor and a United States Marine Corps Veteran, I understood what I was seeing. I knew what it meant for someone to lean forward into a gun, […] to prepare for recoil. As the evidence shows, I did not want to hurt anyone. I never had the intent to hurt anyone. It is impossible to say that I was trying to ambush or anyone or planning violence,” Song told the court. “I am so grateful that we are not here mourning another death and tragedy. Another Alex Pretti. Another Renee Good.”
“This case has relied on lies and misinformation from the start,” said Amber Lowrey, the sister of Savanna Batten, who was sentenced today to 50 years in prison. “While these absurd sentences are no surprise based on the bias of the court, it is heartbreaking nonetheless. But we will keep fighting to overturn these unjust convictions and to free Savanna and all the Prairieland defendants. We will not rest until they are free!”
“As a congregation, we decided that this case was a fundamental test of our right to dissent against authoritarian regimes,” said Ana Marie Thorne, Chair of the Social Justice Committee at All People’s Church Unitarian Universalist in Fort Worth. “These defendants are not militant monsters out to kill,” continued Thorne. “They are everyday people who saw our country literally interning people in concentration camps and decided to show up at Prairieland Detention Center to let those incarcerated there know that they mattered. We leave here today knowing that the outcome of this trial is not the end. It is the beginning.”
Before the sentencing, Judge Pittman dismissed numerous motions to overturn the convictions without providing written rulings and with little-to-no explanation. All nine trial defendants filed motions for a new trial, detailing how the government failed to provide the necessary evidence for a conviction and instead put on a trial that was “saturated with evidence designed to evoke fear, political bias, and guilt by association,” according to one of the motions. Another motion details potential juror misconduct. Prairieland defendants have vowed to fight their convictions and will be filing appeals in the following weeks.
The Prairieland cases, involving 22 people charged with both state and federal charges, stem from a noise demonstration in solidarity with detainees at the Prairieland ICE Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, on July 4, 2025. After the protest, an officer with the Alvarado Police Department became involved in an exchange of gunfire soon after arrival. The officer allegedly sustained minor injuries, and was reportedly released from the hospital shortly afterwards, but authorities have never provided hospital records to justify these claims. Alvarado police arrested ten people that night, and a dozen more were arrested over the following several months.
>>2850403>>2850407Ted kkkruz is too retarded to know what Strasserism is
>>2850443they only let her go because of her last name
>>2850314peachy keenan and iron felix will team up to destroy the demokkkratikkk $traᛋᛋerites of Amerikkka
>>2850314I'm glad at least one person out there sees how dangerous the rise of the DSSA is.
>>2850464We must form a tactical alliance to stop the spread of social fascism.
>>2850459True though strasserism is an irrelevant ideology that nobody believes in anymore
>>2850465>steelWRONG METAL FOOL
I SEE THROUGH YOU DISGUISE
>>2850465>We must form a tactical alliance to stop the spread of social fascism.to do that is social imperialism tho
>>2850467but you named yourself CommuniARYAN
>>2850471Im not a strasserist doe
>>2850026Mamdoomy looks like harry potter on thT picc
Is trump vlodremot?
>>2850470The DSSA is the greater threat because they support the Demoncrakkkas and corrupt the proletariat away from revolutionary potential.
>>2850480There defiantly not done yet
>>2850478Geg
>>2850483>liberals are saying trump didnt go far enough Fuckin hell man every damn time with these retards
>>2850478I know Xi wouldn't sign a defense agreement with Israel, but that retarded monke in the Kremlin very well might. He genuinely seems to admire Israel somewhat.
>>2850007I am quite sure lpol will survive until the end of times, lmao.
Notes:
If Marjorie Taylor Greene wishes to join our party, she is welcome to. So long as she understands the labor theory of value and the importance of solidarity with nations oppressed by the imperial core. À la prochaine, workers of North Carolina unite to vote for Mr. Wilimos in November!
>>2850480remember when the iran thread was convinced marines were about to storm kharg island? Lol
>>2850490she wouldn't even recognize that socialism is needed in the world, lawl.
>>2850488a lot of the israelis were originally russians so he sees israel and russia as having a "special relationship" a la england and the USA
>>2850476fyi I was making a joke. Social fascism as a concept was dropped by Stalin and social imperialism means anything the local nationalist wants it to mean.
Also DSA is just a tent org to get different leftists working together. It's not a real party. Any retard ideology they throw up doesn't matter. You can go to DSA meetings, argue against their bullshit and try to convince people against voting dem while still maintaining friendly ties if you got any social skills.
>>2850494>>2850494>a lot of the israelis were originally russiansa lot? never more than 20%. the majority were polish, rumanian, composing 60% the population, the rest was USSR (yes, Ukraine, Belarus, had a lot of weight there) and other European countries.
>>2850499a lot doesn't mean majority. 20% is still a lot
https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/registered-nurses-join-us-representatives-to-call-for-end-to-blockade-of-cuba== Nation’s largest union of registered nurses joins U.S. representatives to call for end to blockade of Cuba
National Nurses United==
June 23, 2026National Nurses United, the nation’s largest union of registered nurses, and U.S. Representative Delia Ramirez will hold a press conference in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday, June 30 to demand an end to the Trump administration’s blockade of oil supplies entering Cuba. Union nurses will be joined by Global Health Partners, which is working to supply the island nation with critical medical equipment and medicine, as fuel shortages enter its fourth month and the humanitarian crisis escalates.
“Nurses cannot and will not stay silent while our president’s policies cause immense suffering, at home or abroad,” said NNU President Jamie Brown, RN. “The Trump administration is using innocent lives, including pregnant women and infants, to force the Cuban government to concede to its completely unrealistic demands. U.S. nurses denounce these cruel tactics and demand an end to the blockade.”
Who: National Nurses United press conference demanding end to Cuban blockade
What: NNU RNs; U.S. representatives Delia Ramirez, Pramila Jayapal, Jonathan Jackson, and Ro Khanna; Global Health Partners; Code Pink
When: Tuesday, June 30 at 11:00am ET
Where: House Triangle | U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C. 20004
Without essential oil resources, as well as a sharp increase in U.S. sanctions, Cubans are suffering from frequent blackouts, shortages of gasoline and cooking gas, and dwindling supplies of diesel that power the nation’s water pumps, with a particularly severe impact on the delivery of health care services. Recent reporting indicates that tens of thousands of Cubans have had to forego medical treatments, including surgeries, and that three-quarters of essential medicines are entirely unavailable on the island. Additionally, the U.N. has warned that infant mortality has doubled and that fuel shortages have negatively impacted food production, with output down by more than 60 percent, leading to a sharp increase in food costs.
To support the Cuban people, NNU nurses have donated to Global Health Partners (GHP), an organization that has brought millions of dollars worth of lifesaving medicines and surgical supplies to the island. Most recently, GHP’s programs have been focused on reversing Cuba’s fast-rising infant mortality rate.
National Nurses United is the largest and fastest-growing union and professional association of registered nurses in the United States with more than 225,000 members nationwide. NNU affiliates include California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee, DC Nurses Association, Michigan Nurses Association, Minnesota Nurses Association, and New York State Nurses Association.
>>2850512There's no difference between soccdems, democrats and republicans for the global proletariat
Why should anyone care how the bourgies divide the loot among themselves?
people getting arrested because they were peeling off the blue paint on the bottom of the capitol reflecting pool is peak americana. all the decades accusing the DPRK, and americans will stare you with lead dead-eyes and tell you how dangerous the DPRK and similar countries are with their populations, arresting their citizens for whatever reason.
>>2850527maga is the new juche, get ready for the trump dynasty
>>2850533if only. the Juche gives housing, healthcare, public transport…
none of that is expected from the us regime.
Srsyl tho, if the a full unredacted batch of Epstein files on the Trump admin were released, would it matter? I mean if it's just Trump raping teen girls roughly half of America will applaud it. I think it may even take more than Trump and Epstein and friends eating babies alive for Americans to care. Lets be real. We really do kinda suck.
>>2850553You can only think this if you don't actually speak with other human beings.
>Texas is poised to require all public school students read the Bible as part of their mandatory book list, potentially violating the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.
aw, we are so back with the early 2000s shi.
pastafarism, here we go again.
>>2850557At this point I want state governments to troll Texas by requiring students to read the Quran
>>2850557Part of me almost supports this because there's few things as damaging to Christianity as actually reading the fucking Bible.
>>2850561yeah, not gonna happen. I wonder what legal framework they'll use this time, because literally pastafarism brokedown every 'compelling argument for enforce the teaching of creationism and christianism' with a (mediocre at best) legal basis with direct equivalences that would have compelled the state to also enforce the teaching pastafarism.
'we need to teach more christianism and get them into praying because less people praying than in the past means MORE NATURAL DISASTERS !!!11!!one1!'
pastafarism:
'we need to teach pastafarism because and get them into piracy because less pirates than in the past means MORE NATURAL DISASTERS!' (pastafarians enforced people to be pirates instead of praying)
clever way to rebuke that
post hoc ergo propter hoc.
>>2850566oh, the state will never promote the reading of the bible. only the insane areas on revelations and that's it.
the part where Christ sold his possessions, and told his disciples to sell his possessions and gave to the poor stuff each according to their need?
laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalw no.
>>2850569Yeah, too true.
My father became "born again" not too long ago. I've seen the "study" materials. Just gross nonsense.
>>2850567now that I think about it, trump's a
true pastafarian.
>>2850532I’m going to assume he’s talking about China because in the U.S. communists are still mostly radical book clubs
>>2850593a monument to the Strait of Hormuz, tbh.
people are glazing mamdani for freezing rents but de blasio did it three times
Why are establishment dems freaking out at DSA wins? This takes the disaffected berniecrat millennials and sheepdogs them right back into the democratic party where imperialism. Are they ignorant and actually convinced there’s a real conflict or even difference between Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders?
>>2850505(ignored for being too wholesome)
>>2850532>thousands of yearsretard
>>2850610Because even a step towards them not having absolute power to screw every human being on the planet makes them seeth uncontrollably
And some of the base of the dsa are actual anti imperialist and the more socdems get in power the harder it is to pull an aoc and the more left wing they have to be to look the part.
>>2850532this FAGGOT's grandfather came over, started BROTHELS, lived off of HOOKER MONEY, then his FAGGOT dad got rich off of government subsidies just like elon
>>2850594Fox News is panicking about the DSA right now so I suspect he really is talking about the book clubs.
>>2850610>Why are establishment dems freaking out at DSA winsbecause they want to keep laundering money through israel, their aipacs, and also know the importance of israel's existence in the ME, as a land air carrier against any national liberation movement that fights against zionism and its occupational and control aspirations.
it's so fun to watch jakim jeffries seething with a simple question 'are you afraid of getting primaried by someone proposed by Zohran Mamdani?'
>hurr durr when you make me serious question I will answer you.LMAO.
>>2850533the usa turned every city in north korea into gaza, then also bombed them with chemicals and diseases, then sanctioned them to hell, and they still came out looking OK and getting their own nukes. this is the power of juche. but americans under a similar treatment would cannibalize each other.
>>2850622DSA is just going to do the exact same shit but through Jstreet instead of AIPAC, they’re replacing Likudnik zionism with liberal Zionism.
>>2850627
Dood, give it a rest. You realize you have the opposite effect right? Whatever you stand for you just bring shame to.
>>2850627
>claim pedophilia
>look inside
>it's just cartoons
shut the fuck up you moralist faggot
>>2850603The Strait of Hormuz is closed due to aids
Anyone care to fill me in on why there’s a weird cohort of people who claim anything good is imperialism?
>>2850641What happened that was good?
>>2850641>>2850645 This anon is right
Mamdani has increased the level of imperialism higher than it's ever been.
Adventurism and electoralism are both dead ends but where’s the positive alternative? The Chinese and the Jdpon aren’t coming via naval invasion so waiting for an avenging army is just outsourcing revolution
Do any of you even know let alone trust your neighbors?
>>2850651why would a communist in america trust their neighbors when the vast majority are willful and gleeful collab-
gotcha. yeah I know my neighbors. I like most of them. Sometimes I make them food.
>>2850654
3 gallons of water died for this post
>>2850657I don’t know their names but one time the wind was so bad it blew their outside door off and I put it off to the side out of the wind
>>2850641sorry bro I know socdems are epic and wholesome but the mode of production remains capitalist imperialism
>>2850657What really gets me about the felix position is why not go all the way and just say you can’t be a communist and an American at the same time?
>>2850662Where’s the economic kernal of socialism inside of capitalism? Technology? That’s bourgeois control and surveillance. Unions? Class collaborationist and effectively socdem, they exist for the benefit of their members and nothing else. Worker co-ops? You just have a firm of bourgeois workers exploiting themselves and also contributing to capitalist imperialism as any typical company. State owned enterprises? Same as a typical business but it’s allowed to be unprofitable for far longer
>>2850666
No one cares
>>2850074The DSA isn't a political party, it's a political association. There is a major difference. A political party is a legally defined entity inside the US system, and the DSA has yet to attempt this expensive process, which would require all of it's bylaws to be re-written and the party to gain a significant financial infrastructure it currently does not have.
Therefore, what it does, all it does, is entryism into the Democratic party, which has thus far accomplished absolutely nothing. Look at AOCIA's career as a legislator. She has passed nothing. She has not used any leverage against the Democratic party to force it to the left. She exists and casts almost entirely symbolic votes on issues that are already decided by the bourgeois party that she is forced to bow to.
Marxists are free to join the DSA because anyone is free to join the DSA, but they are not a Marxist political party in any sense and cannot be one.
The DSA's strategy is a complete dead end, and it was designed that way by Michael Harrington on purpose. Once again, none of you are willing to reckon with the DSA's history, despite claiming to be historical materialists.
>>2850670All true, so what’s the alternative?
>>2850670>A political party is a legally defined entity inside the US systembro thinks the US invented political parties lol
>>2850670>The DSA isn't a political party, it's a political association. >none of you are willing to reckon with the DSA's historyAre you just pretending to not see it? If it's not a party then their history, strategy, ideology, endorsements and positions don't fucking matter. The whole point is to have a place to talk to other leftists and make it easier to coordinate. You can be part of DSA and also have a real marxist political party at the same time. It's not contradictory but complimentary.
>>2850610Because even the slightest reform of New Dealism will end up with the worst actors pulling a Business Coup 2.0. They don't even want to budge an inch and are being stubborn and ruthless
>>2850674It don't matter. It's like their position on Palestine.
>>2850671An independent, explicitly revolutionary Proletarian party which builds not towards vague political reforms or pressure on the bourgeois system, but rather a final, decisive confrontation with the United States government, resulting in it's total destruction.
>>2850673First off, what leftists? Leftists are not liberals. These are two different things.
Secondly, this is the literal definition of tailism but go ahead and "coordinate" (subordinate yourself) to the succdems. Marxists must take a leadership position of the movement, not following behind to gobble up the scraps from the bourgeois table. Any true Communist should be actively raiding the DSA for members, not coordinating with their efforts.
>>2850680>These are two different things. So what? Most leftists started off being taught liberalism as children and then grew out of it.
>Secondly, this is the literal definition of tailismTailism is following trends not actively getting recruits.
>go ahead and "coordinate" (subordinate yourself) to the succdems. You don't need to do anything in the DSA to be a low level member. It's not some maoist cult where they make you go through a group therapy "struggle session" or some Trot paper route where you have to do homework.
>Any true Communist should be actively raiding the DSA for members, Exactly my point lol
>the leader of the Catholic Church is American
>the largest soccer event is being hosted in the US
Is the US oficially a Latinx country now?
>>2850007This is your fault for systematically banning every actual Communist from this site to protect the feelings of your favorite Catholic Fascist.
>>2850684>So what? Most leftists started off being taught liberalism as children and then grew out of it.And how are they going to grow out of it if all you do is follow behind the DSA, "coordinating" with them on their efforts which are explicitly imperialist and pro-Capitalist in nature? Even if they win some reforms from capital, it will be the DSA winning them, not you, because you have subordinated yourself to them. Your goal as a Communist should be to actively agitate AGAINST the DSA, to show the workers the error of their ways and the folly of their strategy. The aim should be the liquidation of the DSA as a functional organization, not meekly coordinating with it.
>>2850571The antifa algae'd the pool
>>2849264>>2850686>Is the US oficially a Latinx country now?I mean, they are the fastest growing ethnic group, and already outnumber all other groups combined (except whites, of course)
>>2850680You’re calling for adventurism, you’re no different than the boomer narcissists of the Weather Underground
>>2850687i think we should do a full on capture of the DSA and re-writing of its constitution
Most Americans are perfectly fine with the status quo, they’re complaining because complaining is fun
>>2850692something something . . . I wish anarchists, no sorry, libs were a race . . .
>>2850692To what end, making it a legitimate political party? That might be possible, but even that is simply bourgeois entryism into a system which has long ago outlived it's historical value in this system. American bourgeois democracy is moribund and rigged. There is no actual hope inside the system, and this is by design.
Towards making it a revolutionary coalition? That is not possible because the rank and file DSA member is explicitly counter-revolutionary and the organization is strictly legalist.
The only use for the DSA is to aggressively raid it for members while agitating against it and it's strategy.
>>2850697>Towards making it a revolutionary coalition? That is not possible because the rank and file DSA member is explicitly counter-revolutionary and the organization is strictly legalist.to capture and re-write means that you'd work on changing the rank and file, overwhelm the most ardently soc-dem and push them out, and change the core articles so as to make it more fitting for purpose.
>>2850702And then it’s just another PSL or CPUSA, what use is that?
Sometimes you just gotta accept that not only is it over, there was never any possibility to begin with outside of the status quo, because that’s what history produced.
>>2850703Forcibly dragging it into a combination of legal and illegal work, obviously.
>>2850706You’re not getting around the surveillance panopticon and the feds that will be around you from the jump, if you last six months it’s because they’re building a case that will have you in prison for 1000 years like every mid level drug dealer
>>2850707The point is that when you're talking about a political organization of 100,000 people it becomes no longer readily feasible to simply do a bust of a handful of people. That's edging into widespread open conflict territory.
>>2850708Dragging the DSA into bolshevism like you are proposing will eliminate 90% of its membership, Americans are not, have never been, and never will be bolsheviks
>>2850709You are no longer talking about political strategy you are just injecting doomerism.
>>2850710Do you really think the over educated PMC college grads that make up DSA membership are going to stick by you?
>>2850694Sad but true take, the only Americans willing to get their hands dirty anymore are the filthy Nazis. It’s funny how they might throw away the best chance they have at decreasing Americas nonwhite immigrant population all because they can’t fall in line with current regime on Israel.
<If only we tied our unsinkable aircraft carrier to the Kurds! Then the antisemites would have less to complain about.But in the end the antizionist but not antisemitic left will take power and institute enough economic reform to keep the working class idle and bigoted. I don’t know if it’s the geographic isolation or the racial propaganda but something has made the average American a childish, empty headed, vain and ignorant douchebag. My family has been in the union since the god damn civil war and I can’t imagine them ever once being able to feel real pride in being here, not because of its stupid people, but because of the abominable systems of government they insist on implementing.
Thankfully the time is as ripe as ever for revolution, political violence against the rich and powerful is as a high, and the demsocs are on a war path in NYC. Let god dance on top of Wall Street.
>>2850712I think a lot of people are more struggling with the belief that collective action is functionally impossible like this. Capturing the DSA and then pushing it around gives a better sense of coherent action to its members. I think "nobody will stick by me" is a major reason of why most parties don't go beyond book clubs, we need people who were already active taking the fight along legally to be willing to push it illegally as well.
>>2850716They’re going to slip up, get caught by the feds, and betray you and however many cadres you have for a shorter prison sentence. This is the country that mostly did nothing as Gaza was destroyed with its armaments and artillery. Organizing Americans is like herding cats, you’re not dealing with human beings.
Any “political party” that engages in illegal activity is going to get stitched up on RICO charges. You think you’re better and have more operational security than rappers or the mafia?
>>2850687>how are they going to grow out of it Talk to them and share viewpoints in a rational and calm manner. As long as you don't rant at them like a crackhead they might be convinced.
>it will be the DSA winning them, not youAs you already pointed out is not a competing political party so who cares? Just don't invest your time into their socdem activities and use the meetups to connect with people who are sympathetic.
>Your goal as a Communist should be to actively agitate AGAINST the DSA,And how are you supposed to successfully do that if you only have a microparty of 5 people?
>>2850718>>2850717>>2850716The only comprehensive action to be taken against the government is a general strike.
>>2850723Union density is like 6% of the workforce and unions are class collaborationist social democratic anyway, so how does that happen?
You would need at least half the police and military to pull anything off and those are the oppressors, the class traitors, so how is anything supposed to happen?
>>2850717>americans aren't hecking HUUUUUUUUUMANimagine thinking so highly of humanity that you have to mentally demote people to subhuman when they do the same retarded selfish shit that humanity has always done. Do you think the average Roman going to the Collosseum on their day off cared about the imperialism the Roman army was doing in Gaul? Do you think the average army is above raping and pillaging when they have the upper hand against a designated outgroup? Lmfao Genghis Khan invented germ warfare by catapulting plague-ridden dead bodies over city walls, but you cucks are bizarro burger exceptionalists
America is a piece of shit country but you'd have to be delulu to think there is anything uniquely inhuman about it. It's the highest expression of humanity, a bunch of sadistic apes who used religion to trick themselves into thinking they were better than that.
>>2850720>And how are you supposed to successfully do that if you only have a microparty of 5 people?he will never tell
>>2850727True, it’s an imperial core issue, Marx was wrong about how capitalism advancing would make it more unstable and the proletariat more restless. He didn’t live to see mass media, suburbanization, the recuperation of all dissent. The only time proles are revolutionary is when they’re either part of a colonized nation or they or their immediate family are peasants, because peasants are self sufficient and can feed themselves and the insurgent army. Let’s say you started an insurgency in West Virginia, the government shuts down the dollar general then everyone just dies, that’s it.
>>2850729A ban is just mods saying “Bad Post”, honestly the message should just say that
>>2850732>ban is when mods downvootWE'RE GONNA VOTE VOTE VOTE, IT'S OUR MOMENT
>>2850717>>2850718It's not about having random party members doing random crimes. The point is to be ready to break rules as political instability of the ruling society increases. Capitalist society is inherently unstable and constantly making huge swaths of the population become criminals. And what happens when the AI bubble pops, a great depression turns at least 25% of the population unemployed and homeless? That type of instability creates the atmosphere of illegal activity and rebellion that can temporarily overwhelm the state. Socialists to be ready to fight back before they end up Jakarta Method.
>>2850734You think that isn’t part of their plan and calculus? The point is to make you a criminal, arrest you, and enslave you.
>>2850734The state wouldn’t allow this type of chaos to come about if it wasn’t already factored in
>>2850735>>2850736I think people a lot of times overestimate how well planned and prepared the state is especially when it is rotting away with increasing incompetence. Every state has a "plan" but as the saying goes:
>everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth >>2850737The people operating in the institution don’t have to be smart or competent for the machinery to work, shit’s on autopilot
The only way revolution happens is if the military and the CIA are on your side, which means they would need to be losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers at a time for something even stupider than the Iran war and even the stupidest American neocon knows better than to send American soldiers into any perceived meat grinder. That’s why we have the Iran MOU
>>2850745the dollar will hyperinflate as soon as burgers have lost currency hegemony
>>2850745you will see weimar level hyperinflation in less than 20 years.
>>2850748>>2850750You think the CIA or the military care about the fake money?
>>2850751A good 80% of their accomplishments is due to the easy availability and power of that "fake money." The power of the cia is directly proportional to the power of the dollar.
>>2850752You think all those agents and those networks disappear with inflation? That it’s like the mafia and they’ll just turn on each other as soon as they’re hit with any inconvenience?
>>2850754The US existed as a creditor nation before the petrodollar, and will continue to exist afterwards. Any idea of the US breaking apart like the Soviet Union is nonsense, no one is going to tolerate border crossings on the interstates and “local” and regional culture are memes, they don’t exist. There’s zero basis for separtism.
>>2850755Weird defensive goalpost shifting in response to being educated. Watch the video.
the US is a debtor nation these days, not a creditor nation and gets away with not paying its debts precisely because of the petrodollar system and its military.
The US is also losing its military advantage because it is not able to produce its expensive multibillion dollar wunderwaffen as quickly as "weak" countries like Iran are able to produce cheap drones that destroy expensive burger toys.
you're just repeating "the past will be like the future, trust me" like a mantra. Yes, it will! But not in the way you think. Empires collapsed in the past and they will collapse in the future. and it doesn't have to be a catastrophic single event. it can be a slow decline like England. I said nothing like the USSR. I am merely suggesting that the US is going to lose its hegemony and experience hyperinflation. Not that it will break up.
Also I forgot to mention that the petrdollar system is not MERELY just how the USA forces everyone to hold dollar reserves and ties everyone's energy dependence to the USA, it's how the USA secures loans it is unable and unwilling to pay back, and it is how the USA is able to badger countries it doesn't like with sanctions. the US gov will soon kiss all those advantages goodbye.
>>2850756The US will just adapt and export its problems to South America and the Caribbean like it always has
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>>2850757>>2850758>i have retreated to another smaller goalposti'm sorry
>>2850709>will eliminate 90% of its membershipFirst congress of RSDLP had <10 delegates, all got arrested.
1905 about 8,400 bolsheviks. In Petrograd some 800.
1906 about 13,000.
1907 – 46,100.
Peak membership before a period of harsh repression. The 5th Congress in London noted their majority status.
1908–1912 – dropped to a few thousand. A period of intense reaction and police repression following the failed 1905 revolution. Membership plummeted. For example, Moscow's membership dropped from 500 to 150 in 1909. The Petrograd organization fell from 8,000 members in 1907 to only 3,000 by 1908. Similar drastic drops were seen in Yekaterinburg (1,070 to 250) and Ivanovo-Voznesensk (2,000 to 600). The Bolsheviks themselves were reduced to a small, underground cadre of hardened revolutionaries, with estimates placing them in the "few hundreds or several thousand"
1912- 1917. Data unavailable. It's estimated that the party's size before 1914 was between 5,000 and 10,000
Feb 1917 – 23,600. Just before the February Revolution, the party was a small, disciplined underground organization.
April 1917 – 79,000.
July 1917 – 240.000
Oct 1917 – up to 400.000
>>2850632ur gay like
>>2850924 >>2849831Shut up, glowie.
will there be presidential elections? will the DSAmocrats win the presidency? will whomever comes in roll back the donroe doctrine?
Anarchists and MLMS are always trashing everything. They're like leftist rain men. Ever notice most of them seem very on edge too, like in a constant state of anger, almost ready to hit somebody? You can hear how angry they get when talking about their beliefs, it's always like evangelists, or violent. They want leaders calling for heads and pikes, otherwise its "bourgeiose". The best part is, the pro violent anarchists are actually confused dictators, anarcho-pacifists are correct to tell insurrection anarchists that theyre just authortarian communists without knowing it, because a successful violent revolutions basic function is wielding authoritarian power against someone else. All revolution with violence is authorarian or leads to authoritarianism. Anarchists will vote on which rich dude or priest dies in a firing squad first, then line them up, and decide on their life or death, and say "yup, anti-authoritarian". ᴉuᴉlossnW calling them confused dictators was correct, ᴉuᴉlossnW was using his knowledge of true socialism to reach this conclusion.
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