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๐Ÿ—ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐Ÿฆ…

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkkaโ„ข


<Demon-kkkratikkk $traแ›‹แ›‹erites of Amerikkka Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
๐Ÿ’€ ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison โ€” for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

๐Ÿ“– Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
๐Ÿ“– How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
๐Ÿ“– National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
๐Ÿ“– Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
๐Ÿ“– An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
๐Ÿ“– Prisonersโ€™ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

โš’๏ธ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
โ–ถ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

โš–๏ธ Deeds of the Burger Reich ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes โ€“ master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

๐Ÿ“บ Glowie News ๐Ÿ“บ

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

๐Ÿ“บ Gommie News ๐Ÿ“บ

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

๐Ÿ๏ธ Epstein's Client List ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik ๐Ÿ“–

๐Ÿ“– WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
๐Ÿ“– Power Anywhere There's People! โ€“ Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
๐Ÿ“– War is a Racket โ€“ Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
๐Ÿ“– Letters From an American Farmer โ€“ St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
๐Ÿ“– Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
๐Ÿ“– The Ballot or the Bullet โ€“ Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
๐Ÿ“– What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? โ€“ Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
๐Ÿ“– A Trail of Broken Treaties โ€“ American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Custer Died for Your Sins โ€“ Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Emancipation Proclamation โ€“ Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
๐Ÿ“– Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
๐Ÿ“– Common Sense โ€“ Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
๐Ÿ“– An Indigenous History of the United States โ€“ Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Huey Long โ€“ Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

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>>2851000
Heโ€™s doing the typical shitlib tactic of purposefully conflating communism with the Nazism of the DSA

>>2851012
>people are SAYING things!
woah…

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>>2851016
meanwhile the UK """"left""""

>>2850979
No investigation no right to speak fool

>>2851013
are you under the impression i'm a jew or agreeing with the accusation of anti-semitism?๐Ÿคฃ
No fuck israel and the jewish religion

>>2851019
its crazy how accurately Engels clocked UKanos 150 years ago

>>2851019
Look at the bottom blurb. "British left = Labour", aka not "the left" at all, just Starmerite right-wing bootlickers. The reason why Harris supporters are less in favor is because Dem idpol is to pretend to be "culturally left" while actually being reactionary and putting kids in cages even before Trump did; aka they say they support immigrants but don't actually.

>>2851023
this reads like euroid cope

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>DSA is fascist! Imperialist! The establishment loves them because they'll make America into a new Reich!
<meanwhile, the establishment

>>2851021
Why are you complaining that no one has to where kiddy gloves when critiquing Judiasm?

>>2851026
Tbf the Nazis considered the SPD to be "Jewish Reds" while the communists considered them to be objectively on the side of capital, and history has since proven the communists correct. Just because reacrionaries throw a fit about something doesn't mean it's the second coming of the Bolsheviks.

>>2851028
what complaint? what the fuck are you talking about?

>>2850995
>Four years ago the accusation of anti-semitism was getting people ostracized. Now people are able to just say the most heinous actually anti-semitic shit and nobody bats an eye. This stupid line of badjacketing is backfiring tremendously
>>2851031


This yoh reference the "anti semitism" myth. Judaism is not above critique.

>>2851032
I'm sorry if I consider people publicly saying things like "The jew is an unclean, lying animal" and take that to mean something "antisemitic" and racist and not just some carefully nuanced critique of moden judaism and israel

>>2851030
Why do they have to be the second coming of the Bolsheviks? What does on the side of capital mean exactly? Does it mean every government or party that doesn't abolish capitalism is exactly the same? Are none better or worse? Are the Nazis not worse than other governments "on the side of capital?"

Also Jesus Christ with every single situation in our modern world has to be compared to the stories from the Bible. Other things have happened besides WW2.

This is what their constitution says btw.
https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/constitution/
>We are socialists because we reject an economic order based on private profit, alienated labor, gross inequalities of wealth and power, discrimination based on race, gender identity, sexual orientation, disability status, age, religion, and national origin, and brutality and violence in defense of the status quo. We are socialists because we share a vision of a humane social order based on popular control of resources and production, economic planning, equitable distribution, feminism, racial equality, and non-oppressive relationships. We are socialists because we are developing a concrete strategy for achieving that vision, for building a majority movement that will make democratic socialism a reality in America. We believe that such a strategy must acknowledge the class structure of American society and that this class structure means that there is a basic conflict of interest between those sectors with enormous economic power and the vast majority of the population.


Main thing I don't like about DSA was this video of their national convention. This shit was fucking crazy. Why does "inclusion" mean that we have to turn politics into a freak show? Just fucking act normal. Why can't leftists be normal respectable people?

But they seem to be getting better with these candidates that are getting office. I'm starting to warm to them.

>>2851026
<Unleash Fetterman on the DSA

>>2851039
UM POINT OF PRIVILEGE

>>2851043
Technically it's a Robert's Rules of Order thing

>>2851030
I get that but I dont think the SPD comparison is accurate, the DSA acts more like a popular front which includes the revolutionary left and can be dominated by it while the SPD was strictly a social democratic party. Most of the people elected that are aligned with the DSA so far have been socdems, true, but that's something that can change. Darializa Avila Chevalier for instance is clearly far more radical than the likes of AOC

If you haven't studied Gramsci but talk about what should be done, you're opinion is worth less than shit.

>>2851039
>2019
basically a diff org at this point tbh

>>2851046
Like Gramsci hasnโ€™t been recuperated by liberals and weaponized by the state since the 50s

Dudes say "you killed Allende" to which I reply: "yeah, so what?"

Dudes be saying: "it's bourgeois electoralism" to which I reply: "we've got Maoists, motherfucker"

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>Foreign Policy: Washingtonโ€™s Middle East Military Presence Is Uniquely Counterproductive

>Rather than ensuring the free flow of energy, U.S. intervention has only interrupted it.


<The Iran war underscored a simple realityโ€”the expansive U.S. military footprint in the Middle East is counterproductive. This war footing is not needed to secure U.S. interests, and it makes it far too easy for the United States to entangle itself in the regionโ€™s wars or for Washington to unilaterally initiate them. The costs of sustaining this posture outweigh any conceivable benefit. Instead of rebuilding, Washington should close its bases, leave the Middle East, and adopt a strategy of offshore balancing.


https://archive.ph/ef5nf

>>2851045
Mamdani and the rest of those NY candidates(except AOC) have just been "hiding their power levels." You can't just run for office and say "I want to abolish capitalism." Mamdani can't abolish capitalism and create "socialism in one city" either. Jesus Christ. People are now talking about socialism everywhere and you are all unhappy because the real movement is on dead imageboards.

I think a lot of the people here are really just those kind of hipsters that only want to be into esoteric niche things and if the thing you're into gets popular, it ruins it for you because you're no longer unique and cool.

>>2851038
> that's part of the plan
People not knowing about the DSA? Yeah I bet

>>2851056
>adopt a strategy of offshore balancing.
Geniuses at the neocon think tanks realising they can just pay Israelis to conduct their wars like they do with Ukraine

>>2851057
>I think a lot of the people here are really just those kind of hipsters that only want to be into esoteric niche things and if the thing you're into gets popular, it ruins it for you because you're no longer unique and cool.
my thoughts exactly, half of leftypol will lose interest in socialism when it goes mainstream among cringe normies (based)

>>2851057
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ABOLISHING CAPITALISM. WE'RE SOCIALISTS FOR CHRIST SAKE

>>2851062
It's basically in their constitution:
>>2851035
>The proletariat will use its political supremacy to wrest, by degrees, all capital from the bourgeoisie
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

And yeah Mamdani couldn't become mayor by saying he is trying to abolish capitalism altogether and he would have no power to do that as mayor, yet it is still good for socialists to win office.

>>2851064
Hilarious, bourgeois socialism incarnate. The fact that the party stands to prop up the democrats means that justifying support is all the more ridiculous

The fact that you retards think this is a legitimate strategy is beyond belief

>>2851065
So what should we do instead

>>2851065
It is the strategy Marx prescribed. And what is your strategy?

>>2851064
Likewise that's a complete misreading of the manifesto.

>>2851043
>>2851044
https://jurassicparliament.com/roberts-rules-point-of-personal-privilege/

>At a meeting of the Kansas City Garden Club, this exchange occurred:

>Member A: Madam Chairman, I rise to a Point of General Privilege.
>Chair: State your point.
>Member A: The furnace is about to explode!

>Member B: Chair, I rise to a Point of Personal Privilege.

>Chair: State your point.
>Member B: Iโ€™m finding it difficult to hear the speakers clearly. Would everyone be good enough to lean into their microphone/speak up/enunciate, so that I will know what is being said?
>Chair: Thank you for bringing this up. Members are requested to speak up loudly and clearly during discussion.

OP = the only good burger

>>2851069
How so? Lol. He was very specific.

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

  1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
  2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
  3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
  4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
  5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
  6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
  7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
  8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
  9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
  10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of childrenโ€™s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.

>>2851067
Join an actual socialist party that doesn't stand to evade basic Marxist premises like the ACP, CPUSA, or DSA

Otherwise you'll be left reading and writing zines with this idiot >>2851038

>>2851073
Which are? INB4 ACP

>>2851072
Yes well done, you've very cleverly confused gradualism with the political programme in order to justify your stupidity.

The fact that you think your own candidates cannot talk of the abolition of capitalism is fucking hilarious. Why bother calling yourself socialists

>>2851074
That's for you to decide. I'd say use your fucking head, but you think the DSA is a legitimate socialist party.

>>2851076
>Yes well done, you've very cleverly confused gradualism with the political programme in order to justify your stupidity.
What have I confused? Why can't you explain that clearly.

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>>2851070
There was a lot of goofy stuff at that meeting too but the DSA will probably have the last laugh because they actually try to run their meetings according to protocol designed for functioning organizations rather than just winging it.

>>2851078
So you are saying you don't know of any parties you approve of?

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>>2851074
Join the RCA bro

>>2851081
the only legitimate party is the infantry squads being deployed across portland to assault the D$$A with rifles, grenades, and mumbled complaints

>>2851079
That explanation is incredibly clear, you along with that moron Houdini cannot think your way out of a paper bag

You misread the most basic of Marx's texts whilst ignoring his section on bourgeois socialism in order to justify your stupidity. If this thread devolves into support for the DSA I'm going to take great mirth in lampooning you morons with your own fucking statements such as "he can't actually talk about the abolition of capitalism"


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