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๐Ÿ—ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐Ÿฆ…

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkkaโ„ข


<Not Worried Edition


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๐Ÿ’€ ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison โ€” for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

๐Ÿ“– Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
๐Ÿ“– How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
๐Ÿ“– National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
๐Ÿ“– Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
๐Ÿ“– An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
๐Ÿ“– Prisonersโ€™ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

โš’๏ธ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
โ–ถ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

โš–๏ธ Deeds of the Burger Reich ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes โ€“ master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

๐Ÿ“บ Glowie News ๐Ÿ“บ

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

๐Ÿ“บ Gommie News ๐Ÿ“บ

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

๐Ÿ๏ธ Epstein's Client List ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik ๐Ÿ“–

๐Ÿ“– WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
๐Ÿ“– Power Anywhere There's People! โ€“ Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
๐Ÿ“– War is a Racket โ€“ Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
๐Ÿ“– Letters From an American Farmer โ€“ St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
๐Ÿ“– Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
๐Ÿ“– The Ballot or the Bullet โ€“ Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
๐Ÿ“– What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? โ€“ Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
๐Ÿ“– A Trail of Broken Treaties โ€“ American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Custer Died for Your Sins โ€“ Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Emancipation Proclamation โ€“ Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
๐Ÿ“– Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
๐Ÿ“– Common Sense โ€“ Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
๐Ÿ“– An Indigenous History of the United States โ€“ Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Huey Long โ€“ Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

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>>2853673
>>2853744
>no date
>no polling agency
>no information about who took it, in what states etc.
>Atheists on both ratings giver and receiver axis
>Agnostics and "Nothing" (the fastest growing category btw) are on the giver but not the receiver axis
>Jews viewed positively by everyone, especially CIA glowie mormons at a whopping 58% and evangelical protestants, but sure, let's complain about the damn atheists again
>you fucking GODLESS ATHEISTS SURE LIKE THOSE JEWS SO MUCH said the people with the best politics ever who for some reason refuse to specify what they are

>>2853735
>>2853737
where is wrong schizo to tell us real imperialist wage go up
>>2853741
>superwages
is that a word for when you can afford to pay your rent and still have enough left over to get food?
>dubious 8-10$ figure nebulously applied to entire country where prices and rents are famously all over the place

>>2853746
>people who pay rent instead of having a mortage are super exploiters
make it make sense

>>2853673
I want to see this broken up by age cohort

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>>2853708
christcucks will just cherrypick the bible and if you notice they'll say it doesn't matter because spirit is more important than letter, and faith more important than scripture. and that's because religion in general is a flexible tool for controlling people, not a system to be taken literally.

>>2853794
It doesn't have to make sense to third-worldists
If you're white, you're evil. That is the whole spiel.

>>2853811
mmmmmmmm i wasn't looking to start one of those.

also i wouldnt jumble up anti imperialism with anti racism

>>2853816
The older I get, the older I think the voting age should be lol

>>2853818
boomer grindset

>>2853816
Did you respond to the correct post? I am not sure how that was meant for me.

>>2853819
Roughly 50% of zoomers are the new boomers

>REEEE YOU CANT TELL ME TV IS WRONG!!! I AM SMART DAMMIT

<REEEE YOU CANT TELL ME THE INTERNET IS WRONG!!! I AM SMART DAMMIT

same as it ever was

>>2853816
I'm not sure how a post that asks a question about an economic statistic has anything to do with "teenagers" or why you wouldn't simply try answering the question. Is it really fear to say someone making $11/hr is making a labor-aristocratic superwage if that is not enough to get rent/food in their city?

>>2853824
The fact that youโ€™re jumping to conclusions and loading the premise based on meme arguments you got from online proves my point. โ€œSuperwages.โ€ Sure bud

>ask a question about economics
>question ignored, called a teenager
>genpol derail sucessful, people now talking about muh zoomer boomer doomer coomer brainrot

>>2853825
I was responding to the post that said superwages. I was asking a question of that post and then you called me a teenager. It seems you responded to the wrong post.

>>2853826
Easy. I reject your premise because itโ€™s loaded with a bunch of assumptions nobody on this board can justify without descending into a bunch of childish incel screeching over DA HECKIN TREATLER NORMIES REEEE

>>2853827
Fair enough, that was meant for the other post

>>2853825
>>2853828

Since you seem confused I will operate in good faith:

>>2853741
this is the post that first used the term "superwage". I did not make that post. I responded to that post with a question here:

>>2853792
<is that a word for when you can afford to pay your rent and still have enough left over to get food?

it seems you replied to me here implying I am a teenager for asking such a question:
>>2853816


Now you are refusing to answer my question, and getting mad at me for using the term "superwage" but I was replying to someone who had already used that term. I was asking a question about the term they used. Slow down and try to understand this please.

>>2853829
OK. Got it. Thanks!

tomorrow there will be a xenophobicmass march against foreigners in south africa, much violence expected

>>2853834
do you mean a march against boers or what?

>>2853838
Against other African workers but especially congolese

offtopic but there is fundamentally no real difference between mercantalism and capitalism. Idk why people seperate them.

>>2853834
>>2853842
that's cringe and reactionary but what does this have to do with usapol

>>2853846
>offtopic but there is fundamentally no real difference between mercantalism and capitalism. Idk why people seperate them.
there is a political economy thread but mercantilism was pre-industrial, was characterized by royal charters (i.e. state owned enterprises under a monarchy, be it absolutist or constitutional), and was more about jockeying with supply and demand (shipping goods from areas of oversupply to areas of undersupply). Mercantilism also had a lot of protectionism going on. The era marx was writing it, the era of industrial capital, was more characterized by joint stock private enterprises not owned by the government, automation and machinery, free trade under the british empire, and capital as self expanding value through exploitation of labor power sold as a commodity by the proletariat. Some people have taken to calling Keynesianism "neo mercantilism" but we are no longer in the Keynesian moment. It is interesting though that the USA is trying to become protectionist again, and failing to do so largely despite the tariffs.

>>2853299
>hey let's get those loser immigrants who support our company by doing all the hard work that facilitates it, and for slave wages, to worship us in a new commercial!
it's shit like this that makes people go postal, y'know.

>>2853855
those are screen actors

>>2853744
I got banned from a "communist" discord server for saying something like this lmao.

>>2853854
Even crown monopolies had joint stock elements though, and shares could be privately owned. Likewise state owned enterprises have long been a part of many capitalist economies. The biggest difference to me seems to be that in a pre-industrial context merchant capital predominated over industrial capital as you said. Profits were made by simply moving something like spices from regions where they were common to regions where they were scarce. I've still never thought that "mercantilism" should be considered its own economic system or mode of production though. It's really just the limited form in which capitalism can exist in a pre-industrial, feudal context. Prior to the industrial revolution most societies were really a mix of feudalism, slavery, and mercantile capitalism.

>>2853860
marxists are kinda waking up these days to the zionist infiltration and subversion of left-wing spaces. now if only anarchists could get the memo and stop spending all their energy fighting keffiyahs at the local co-op.

>>2853737
could you even slightly explain the mechanism this is supposed to happen through
what goods were seized over the course of the iran war that made this possible

>>2853860
consider that
>why do atheists love jews so much
could be taken as trolling, while
>too many atheists support zionism and the genocide of palestinians, how can we reduce those numbers
seems like you actually care about the underlying issue, and not just doing the "atheists are all crypto jews" shit that evangelicals (even bigger zionists btw) have been doing forever.

>>2853807
Never mind the conflicting values or moral lessons in the Bible, they're just getting the actual narrative wrong. Humanity isn't descended from the 12 tribes of Israel in the Old Testament. The 12 tribes are descended from the 12 sons of Jacob. In the context of the story humanity has already existed for thousands of years and split into countless nations by the time the Israelites and the covenant of Abraham even come into existence.

>>2853861
>Prior to the industrial revolution most societies were really a mix of feudalism, slavery, and mercantile capitalism.
This

>>2853746
Yeah, it's not normal for the proletariat to be able to acquire land and property via wages, glad you're catching on

>>2853869
Do Chinese workers recieve superwages? They have a significantly higher home ownership rate than the US.

>>2853867
the actual narrative is inconsistent too though. even genesis has two different creation sources built into it, and the new testament explicitly has four different gospel accounts with some clear differences at key points.

>>2853869
>>2853870
Yes, even DPRK has higher home ownership rates than the USA

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>>2853854
>Mercantilism also had a lot of protectionism going on.
>The era marx was writing it, the era of industrial capital, was more characterized by…free trade under the british empire
The era was still associated with extremely high levels of protectionism. Places like the usa had high degrees of protection during its industrialization period. The german empire also was pretty simmilar too, in that regard.
>automation and machinery
Didnt the first industrial revolution during (1760-1820) happened during britians mercantalist period? Of course the automation and mechanization wasnt to the level of the 1860s but the process was starting in the 1760s.
>capital as self expanding value through exploitation of labor power sold as a commodity by the proletariat
wasnt this increasingly the case for later mercantalism when the british empires mercantalism started shifting towards the promotion and selling of manufactured goods?
>>2853861
>Profits were made by simply moving something like spices from regions where they were common to regions where they were scarce. I've
Later mercantalism in the british empire was shifting towards a pro manufacturing model, tho

>>2853746
i don't think anyone making 10/hr is actually saving 400 every week.

>>2853880
yes you're describing the process by which mercantilism evolved into capitalism gradually. there's no obvious cutoff point but I don't think they're the same exact things necessarily.

>>2853871
Tbf that's sort of to be expected in a text written over hundreds of years by multiple people. That's why anybody with a theological education doesn't read it literally. American evangelicals are the only people in the world to do so, and their movement was largely spawned by lay preachers with no theological background. So much of the meaning is lost not only in translation, but also in cultural symbolism and literary traditions that would have been obvious and familiar to ancient audiences but are taken way out of context by modern ones. To really understand the meaning of the New Testament for example you essentially need to speak Ancient Greek, have a decent knowledge of rabinic apocalyptic and messianic literature, and good understanding of the 1st century Roman Empire's politics, economy, and culture. Otherwise you're basically trying to decipher a series of references to established literary tropes and contemporary events without actually knowing what they were. Take something like the annoying things libs do where they compare shit to pop culture. If you say "Trump is Voldemort! There's a cheeto in the Whitehouse!" it's cringe but we all know what it means. It would be a lot harder to figure it out if you didn't know who Trump and Voldemort are, or what a cheeto or the Whitehouse were.

>>2852865
if you're trying to access the most recent one within a few minutes of me posting it, the link is still being archived.

>>2853887
the old testament was written over hundreds of years by many people, but the new testament was probably only written over the course of less than two centuries, certainly after 70 CE, with the gospels being written only a few decades apart after early Christianity had mostly been an oral tradition.

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>>2853861
>I've still never thought that "mercantilism" should be considered its own economic system or mode of production though.
The period was never self-described as "mercantilist". It is a derisive term given by liberals, especially after Adam Smith. The term "capitalism" itself is also a 19th century term, when according to Marx, capitalism existed since around 1500 CE, in development.
>>2853854
The Mercantilist period began around 1600 CE and can be seen in various tendencies within the British, Dutch and French empires of the time. We see literature in the early 17th century (highlighted in Antoine Montchretien's "Traicte", 1615) that merchant guilds in the City of London were growing in social power following the joint-stock company of the East India Company (est. 1600), immediately followed by the Dutch East India Company (est. 1602). New legal frameworks such as the laws of the sea (maritime law) were being debated, regarding new mercantile systems of global trade and colonial capture. We see an emphasis on a growing industrial base at the same time however by Antoine Montchretien's primary account of the manufacturing of both Britain and the Netherlands (who were coincidentally the two great protestant powers which in establishing a national church - rather than submitting to Catholic internationalism, economised church property. Marx discusses this in regards to the Dissolution of the Monasteries, 1536-41, were former Church property became privately leased, which if you are inrerested in the saga of British law, overthrow internal debates about "mortmain", or the "dead hands" of "corporate" property). The most famous mercantilist writer is Thomas Mun's "England's Treasure" (1640), in which he emphasises a "balance of trade" as his main objective, which of course is entirely reasonable. Soon after this, we get William Potter (1650) who is subverting the dominant discourse away from the "usury" of creditors for the sake of expanding commerce (Marx also viewed this turn as the interests of industrial capital overtaking interest-bearing capital). This is followed up by Josiah Child (1668) on the same premises. Each of the men demanded a further lowering of the national rate of interest (which since the start of the mercantilist period, had been legally lowered). These men we can see as "demand-side" theorists who wanted to compete with the Dutch, whose rate of interest was lower. The prevailing opinion was that more trade means more wealth (which again, is reasonable). There are two major opponents to this view, William Petty (whom Marx regards as the first "Classical" economist) and John Locke. Both of these men contended that indeed, the rate of interest was correlary of trade, but the cause of the rate of interest was the increased productivity, not the increase of money itself. These men can be considered "supply-side" mercantilists. This concludes the 17th century view, but there was still lingeing interest, such as the Irish philosopher Berkeley, who took a demand-side position in the early 18th century (1735). The real revolutionary turn however was with Joseph Massie (1750) who asserted that both of the mercantilist schools were wrong, and that in fact, the rate of interest is caused by the rate of profit (not simply the amount of circulating money) - this is followed up by Smith (1776) in his view that the historical rate of interest can track the historical rate of profit, and so capital investment becomes causal of interest, which is also applied in Keynesian macroeconomics, by the "marginal efficiency of capital".

So, mercantilism was not a "system" apart from capitalism, it was an earlier stage of development which produced different theories of wealth. James Steuart (1767) is often cited as the last classic mercantilist, and Steuart plays an important role to Marx also, particularly in his theory of money - between "coin" and "bullion". Friedrich List (1841) is considered a reviver of mercantilism, which is fair, but his book "National System of Political Economy" can also be considered primarily historical, not theoretical.

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>>2853861
>>2853854
>>2853921
To add something basic which was overlooked, William Potter in 1650 proposes a "land bank" to establish lines of national credit for investment, and Marx calls Josiah Child a precedessor to the creditors who establish the Bank of England (1694), which then becomes integral to the national investment in industry, by collecting funds for large-scale development. In the same time, the Netherlands had established a central bank. John Law in the early 18th century was also advocating the same policy for France. The foundation of central banks is then internal to mercantile debates. John Locke himself became a member of the Board of Trade in 1696, like how Isaac Newton became Bank of England treasurer, who in 1717 established the gold standard. So then, interest-bearing capital loses primacy by the consolidation of credit for the sake of investment into industrial capital. Now, the world's first central bank has an interesting history. It was established by the Knights Templar in the 12th century, setting up franchises all over the place, such as the Temple Bank in the City of London. The assets were eventually seized on October 13, 1307 (which was also a massively corrupt era of the Catholic Church - the accusations of the Templars being idolaters who worship Baphomet equally apply to the institution as a whole - even barring the later selling of "indulgences" to piss off Luther). This was the beginning of the end of the medieval era, as the Black Death came soon after, along with the dissolution of feudalism in England, and the rediscovery of antiquity in the Renaissance, finally leading up to the Protestant Reformation.

>>2853673
>Muslim opinion of Jews: -8
>Atheist opinion of Jews: -17
Damn

>>2853610
>no israelis
antisemtic

>>2854002
You are reading it wrong. The vertical collummn is the group who is being rated horizontal is group giving rating. Every single group has positive opiniom of Jews, but this was an old rating before oct 7. Seems the jewish media does the PR campaign well, but I think the last few uears may have finally been a bridge to far even for the best hasbara.


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