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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

<Factory Status? Edition

OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

📖 Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
📖 How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
📖 National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
📖 Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
📖 An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
📖 Prisoners’ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

⚒️ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
▶ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

⚖️ Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes – master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

📺 Glowie News 📺

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

📺 Gommie News 📺

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

🏝️ Epstein's Client List 🇮🇱

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik 📖

📖 WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
📖 Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
📖 Power Anywhere There's People! – Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
📖 War is a Racket – Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
📖 Letters From an American Farmer – St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
📖 Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
📖 The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
📖 The Ballot or the Bullet – Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
📖 What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? – Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
📖 A Trail of Broken Treaties – American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
📖 Custer Died for Your Sins – Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
📖 Emancipation Proclamation – Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
📖 Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
📖 Common Sense – Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
📖 An Indigenous History of the United States – Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
📖 Huey Long – Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

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>>2858353
>Yes it has but AES
Name an example of AES that has abolished money

>>2858351
>>2858351
>>2858351
Gem

>>2858358
>money gets automatically abolished
>socialism isn't a transition
Even Marx did not believe what you are implying. Which further shows the point about some western socialists and idealism

People in taiwan are reporting what looks like recon drones over taipai

>>2858350
>Bro’s mad because they got checked for vague-posting.
not the same anon I just read the whole conversation and that was my take on what you were doing
>checked
you weren't doing shit except playing word police
>>2858345
>Then I guess you are the one who I was mainly speaking to. I forgot to tag another one as well.
no i was the one who jumped in, in the middle, not the one who originally said "the masses" which triggered a huge spergout

>>2858360
>socialism is a transition
>Even Marx did not believe what you are implying
Source that immediately

>>2858355
>Asking for a source is being a clueless idiot?
sperging out because someone said "the masses", demanding they prove marx and engels used the term, and then pretending you were just testing people all along after making them jump through multiple hoops is in fact pretending to be a clueless retard

>>2858358
>>2858360
>>2858368
<Between capitalist and communist society there lies the period of the revolutionary transformation of the one into the other. Corresponding to this is also a political transition period in which the state can be nothing but the revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat.

  • Karl Marx, Critique of the Gotha Programme, 1875

>>2858366
>you weren't doing shit except playing word police
Proof?
>Then I guess you are the one who I was mainly speaking to. I forgot to tag another one as well.
Forgot to add “not”.

>>2858363
source?

>>2858371
I don’t see the word “socialism” in your source.

>>2858375
<To my mind, the so-called “socialist society” is not anything immutable. Like all other social formations, it should be conceived in a state of constant flux and change. Its crucial difference from the present order consists naturally in production organized on the basis of common ownership by the nation of all means of production. To begin this reorganization tomorrow, but performing it gradually, seems to me quite feasible. That our workers are capable of it is borne out by their many producer and consumer cooperatives which, whenever they're not deliberately ruined by the police, are equally well and far more honestly run than the bourgeois stock companies.

  • Friedrich Engels, Letter to Otto Von Boenigk In Breslau, August 21, 1890

>>2858375
You are purposefully being obtuse and acting in bad faith

>>2858294
>on their right sleeve to symbolize how a flag looks on a pole when carried into battle
Even gayer

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>By 4:30 PM GMT, heat waves had caused power outages in several areas of the northeastern United States. Among the hardest-hit states are:

🔶 Michigan, more than 350,000 outages
🔶 New Jersey, more than 160,000
🔶 Pennsylvania, more than 50,000

IT BEGINS

>>2858377
no actually he wins because i am tired of working for him for free

>>2858351
>An inevitable and natural step, I have said—and I hasten to make the reservation: if only we do not permit ourselves to depart by a single step from the impending and pressing task of assisting these masses, who have already begun to rise, to act more boldly and concertedly; of giving them not a couple but dozens of open-air speakers and leaders; of creating a real, militant organisation capable of guiding the masses, and not a so-called “combat organisation” that guides elusive individuals (if it does guide them at all). That this is a difficult task goes without saying, but we can quite justifiably adapt Marx’s words which have so frequently and so ineptly been quoted of late, and say: “Every step of real movement is more important than a dozen” individual attempts and cases of resistance, more important than a hundred organisations and “parties” belonging only to the intelligentsia.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1902/dec/01.htm

>But that is not all. Oppression alone, no matter how great, does not always give rise to a revolutionary situation in a country. In most cases it is not enough for revolution that the lower classes should not want to live in the old way. It is also necessary that the upper classes should be unable to rule and govern in the old way.

>The working class draws into revolutionary action the masses of the working and exploited people, who are deprived of basic rights and driven to despair. The working class teaches them revolutionary struggle, trains them for revolutionary action, and explains to them where to find the way out and how to attain salvation. The working class teaches them, not merely by words, but by deeds, by example, and the example is provided not by the adventures of solitary heroes but by mass revolutionary action combining political and economic demands.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/jun/15.htm

mass revolutionary action. no participation of the masses = no revolution. to believe otherwise is a Blanquist delusion. and lenin was saying this when the tsarist empires proletarian population stood at 4% of the total

>>2858351
>depending on what hyper niche ideology you have, you either need the masses which includes people outside of the industrial proletariat or you emphasize the need for the dedicated cadre.
either are nice to have

>>2858379
sizzlin burgers

>>2858331
>Share your best stories or experiences from the USA.
i somehow haven't been shot or thrown in prison or raped … yet

>>2858387
1847 Marx and Engels did distinguish between Communism and Socialism, but by the end of Engels's life had changed "branding" a bit and started using the term "scientific socialism" to distinguish communism from utopian socialism

>>2858376
Ooh spooky, Engels, whatever shall I do? Oh yeah, I’ll just post this:

<How do communists differ from socialists?
<The so-called socialists are divided into three categories.

[ Reactionary Socialists: ]

<The first category consists of adherents of a feudal and patriarchal society which has already been destroyed, and is still daily being destroyed, by big industry and world trade and their creation, bourgeois society. This category concludes, from the evils of existing society, that feudal and patriarchal society must be restored because it was free of such evils. In one way or another, all their proposals are directed to this end.
<This category of reactionary socialists, for all their seeming partisanship and their scalding tears for the misery of the proletariat, is nevertheless energetically opposed by the communists for the following reasons:
<(i) It strives for something which is entirely impossible.
<(ii) It seeks to establish the rule of the aristocracy, the guildmasters, the small producers, and their retinue of absolute or feudal monarchs, officials, soldiers, and priests – a society which was, to be sure, free of the evils of present-day society but which brought it at least as many evils without even offering to the oppressed workers the prospect of liberation through a communist revolution.
<(iii) As soon as the proletariat becomes revolutionary and communist, these reactionary socialists show their true colors by immediately making common cause with the bourgeoisie against the proletarians.

[ Bourgeois Socialists: ]

<The second category consists of adherents of present-day society who have been frightened for its future by the evils to which it necessarily gives rise. What they want, therefore, is to maintain this society while getting rid of the evils which are an inherent part of it.
<To this end, some propose mere welfare measures – while others come forward with grandiose systems of reform which, under the pretense of re-organizing society, are in fact intended to preserve the foundations, and hence the life, of existing society.
<Communists must unremittingly struggle against these bourgeois socialists because they work for the enemies of communists and protect the society which communists aim to overthrow.

[ Democratic Socialists: ]

<Finally, the third category consists of democratic socialists who favor some of the same measures the communists advocate, as described in Question 18, not as part of the transition to communism, however, but as measures which they believe will be sufficient to abolish the misery and evils of present-day society.
<These democratic socialists are either proletarians who are not yet sufficiently clear about the conditions of the liberation of their class, or they are representatives of the petty bourgeoisie, a class which, prior to the achievement of democracy and the socialist measures to which it gives rise, has many interests in common with the proletariat.
<It follows that, in moments of action, the communists will have to come to an understanding with these democratic socialists, and in general to follow as far as possible a common policy with them – provided that these socialists do not enter into the service of the ruling bourgeoisie and attack the communists.
<It is clear that this form of co-operation in action does not exclude the discussion of differences.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
Socialist and Socialism became dirtied words after they were stolen by liberals, so Engels pivoted strictly to the usage of communist instead, and gave further elaboration on the types of “socialists” to be wary of, as you can see above (I am not done).

>>2858391
>Marx
Has never distinguished the word “socialism” from communism. Engels only distinguished the word later, and even then acknowledges it as stolen.
>>2858377
I am just pointing that what had provided did not back up what you said.

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>>2858397
Don’t care. Didn’t ask. Plus you’re a dweeb.

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>>2858376
Secondly, let's address the very beginning of your post (without having to worry about word limit).
<the so-called “socialist society
So-called socialist society. Not socialist society, so-called socialist society. That is the exact words he has said. And with the added previous context, you now know exactly what he means.

>>2858383
I lol'd. I am roasting like Texas bbq

>>2858382
but it's a piece of shit when we argue endlessly.

>>2858381
I've read some Lenin in my time back on marxist.org when I had a ton of time. Was not lenin himself referred to as a blanquist by 1917? Do we also agree that bu then the industrial proletariat had roughly doubled or tripled in size? Of course the peasantry was needed… and I like to keep in mind the originary meaning of the term prole, those who by birthing provide the raw material for society. Simply to say they're not just someone in a factory.

personally, I have a lot of sympathy for Blanqui/sm, and think that (specifically if applying to today) Lenin is overreaching in his adaptation of Marx here. by setting up a hard opposition between the individuals and the masses, the leninists act like the police (not just of the movement but of society) and negate every real intensity that may BECOME something else simply because it IS not already developed.

I believe we are at such an ebb point that one individual action of audacity is worth a thousand times all the bandwidth and server cost and effortposts of this website, inasmuch as people here have any notion of participting in historic change and have done literally nothing. I am not trying to rage bait or talk down on anyone here because I don't know you. What I'm trying to say is that we are at this stage of real political atomization that individual actions are like Hegel's abstract Being. I believe there is a dialectical resolution to this problem where we can start from where we really are and come together and organize from there. to finish and to try to be really clear, I do not think parties should denounce individual 'initiative' nor try to coopt or represent it. on the other hand, they should not preach it either and instead be the most conscious element of the movement by keeping the endgame in mind

>>2858401
90% of leftypol 12 year olds believe this too

>>2858409
Entropy is neither sapient nor truly dedicated to the communist movement.

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>>2858401
>crazy people who are advocating […] the ideals that founded this country
?????? did she mean to say attacking and not advocating????? this makes no sense. good thing only gay retards like me pay attention to words

>>2858415
Source?

>>2858415
do you at least get a laugh when you type up this shit

>>2858413
This really cheered me up, thanks anon!

>>2858396
xi jumpscare

>>2858325
>You don't want a revolution anyway
Is that relevant

>>2858421
answer the question:
>do you at least get a laugh when you type up this shit

>>2858405
>Was not lenin himself referred to as a blanquist by 1917?
no. his writings up until the coup always reflected the need for broad popular support for any power grab could succeed. even when the masses rose up themselves spontaneously in the July Days crisis and demanded the bolsheviks take action he hesitated. he was always noting of the danger of the masses outpacing the parties in action

>>2858421
Rocks also aren’t alive, so all the qualities you have mentioned are pointless. You can’t even argue for simulacrum communism here because they’re just rocks.

>>2858430
you don't strike me as sober

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>>2858397
>>2858415
>>2858430
vid related

>>2858429
I will look into this and might get back to you. I think he was 'accused' of blanquism by the mensheviks…btw I was accidentally using the socrates flag for those posts. I do red flag lately.

>>2858432

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>>2858415
>Communism isn’t for any life form
oh boy, you shouldn't study animal microbiology. stay away of knowing things like how every cell works from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

>>2858434
That’s like your opinion dude.

>>2858434
>to be or not to be
that is the question and the answer depends on who what when where why and how you are

>>2858276
LLMs aren't as powerful or infallible as you think. Hell people were able to trick them by hiding in cardboard boxes or can poison the data by giving it terrible commands. You fell for the AI Hype snake-oil that these techbros are selling.

Its literally just a predictive calculator. It turns letters into numbers and uses its training to calculate and predict the best answer, even when the answer is completely wrong.

>>2857759
Stalin would have done worse the the hippies.

>>2858335
It's pretty telling that one of your friends is a thug who murdered innocent people for the endless profits of capital, feels no remorse and you empathize with him, because this is your end goal, the complete, violent destruction of the rest of the world to benefit America.

Unlike your friend, you're just too much of a coward to do anything about it.


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