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>>2868869 How are there real people that suffer genuine agita over how much money a movie does or does not make. What the actual fuck? When did what movies the public is watching turn into weird team sports? YOU AREN'T MAKING ANY OF THAT MONEY! WHO CARES?? This has got to be all astroturfed by the weird hollywood failsons like shapiro who have a grudge because they never got hired that's the only thing that makes sense or it's a conspiracy by the studios to get people to go see "their team's" movie. I just can't believe people would really fall for that, after a few times you would just stop caring once you realize it doesn't effect your life at all, right?
>>2870863international socialist duty is when you bail out the treatlerites with your own carefully husbanded oil stockpiles
>>2870875Do Thais like eating tuna pies?
>>2870889there's more to it, keep watching, it gets really interesting
>>2870906
US unionization rates were highest before outsourcing
>>2870920
you're allowed to be dumb
>>2870920
Porky alert
>some unions are class collab
>therefore all are
you're allowed to be dumb
>>2870924
it's really obvious which anon you are. how long until you start posting "fuck marx and fuck you" and "only bears deserve communism" and other just really cringe misanthropic nonsense
>>2870929
you're making the term social fascism meaningless, congrats.
>>2870925
If porkies love unions every single worker would be in one. You convince nobody
>>2870934There's no earthy way of knowing
Which prole party we are voting
Never stopping never slowing
>>2870903I was being (partially) facetious, but the points about holding the us over a barrel when it comes to oil prices seems questionable because it also tanks the export markets. Malacca problem being solved is very interesting though but if they really wanted to make that go away they could just approve power of siberia 2. Thats why im not convinced at all the cpc has any intentions on taiwan. Instead they can sit pretty, decommodify life and progress to a more advanced socialism as markets are abolished in housing education and medicine for starters
>>2870939>intentions on taiwanyeah I just rolled my eyes at that part of the video and chalked it up to being made from the burger perspective
>>2870946>damn someone's brother did something creepy, i hate his sister now for what he did rather than the things she did.this is how cattle think (not a tulcel btw, she sucks for her own reasons)
>>2870948I mean her whole immediate family is part of multiple cults aren't they? Hare Krishna and some doomsday cult. That's reason enough to hate them collectively
>>2870949yeah her family sucks collectively for that reason, but the brother's creepiness is his own action.
it's kinda like how the entire trump family sucks but donald sucks in his own unique ways.
Isn't it interesting how every communist all over the world accepts that communism will require the violence to get worse and the struggle to intensify, but when it comes to firstoids, it is insisted that consumption and comfort mustn't go down even for a microsecond or else you're an unserious larper who doesn't care for the interests of the working class?
>>2870941Something about his delivery style bugged me too. It seemed like a focus grouped version of the claptrap zeihan pushes but with less china is doomed messaging.
Idk maybe its just the aesthetics of a lib telling audiences what is already obvious about chinese oil substitution and stockpiling and then extrapolating to 4 questionable motives
>>2870958>but when it comes to firstoids, it is insisted that consumption and comfort mustn't go down even for a microsecondNobody says that. Marxists simply reject the notion that socialism will make people's lives worse once the revolution is won, whereas third worldists insist that it will.
>>2870949I think her family is part of some narrow spinoff of the Hare Krishnas that kind of are like what RevCom is to other ML groups.
>>2870958>>2870967Strawman vs. Strawman
Firstism and Thirdism have been DEBUNKED
We are all second worldists now. Watch the OP video and accept that you are now Chinese.
>>2870976>controlled demolition of unexploded ordnanceThey are running out of the bingo options
>>2870958>Isn't it interesting how every communist all over the world accepts that communism will require the violence to get worse and the struggle to intensify, but when it comes to firstoids, iThe very same firstpids who advocate for violwnce will be the first to tell you you are being edgy. They think they cab win violent conflict through Tumblr cpmments and group shaming.
>>2870982didn't mean to greentext btw
>>2870977Do you still have the iran war bingo card? What are we at now?
>>2870967Why have a revolution for cheaper gas and more mcmansions when you can jist bomb the third world some more, which is what the firstoids are already doing? Seems pointless
>>2870987>bomb iran>gas goes upflawless porky logic
>>2870982It's actually untrue that life got worse in the first world, firsties just made it up
No statistic shows such a thing
>>2870988Yes, the first world complaint is just that the porkies are mismanaging imperialism
>>2870990by your flawless porky logic, gas going up would be the desired end result of imperialism to curb revolution. you convince nobody glowfag
>>2870989plastic junk being less expensive doesn't make up for food and rent being more expensive
>>2870987>Iran>third worldDPRK, Russia, Iran, China are all second world chads and they are winning. They outproduce the USA in all important matters.
>>2870989social welfare and pensions and all those little treats vanished in america *before* the great period of globalisation in the late 70s, both as response to the falling rate of profit in the west
>>2870967>Nobody says that. Marxists simply reject the notion that socialism will make people's lives worse once the revolution is won, whereas third worldists insist that it will.I think one of the things that got me arguing with Felix initially was he'd
insist "Marxism will destroy living standards." Which is a fucking insane thing to say if you're actually a Marxist. No one is going to fight a revolution in the name of making their lives worse; yet it was one position him (and most other third worldists) could never
ever move on from: "Marxism is going to destroy the American standard of living", it was only after multiple people kept calling him on it that he'd say: "What, you don't think a violent civil war would destroy the standard of living?"
Of course, upon clarifying that
war would ruin the standard of living, I don't think most people would disagree, but he was specifically saying
Marxism would, as in, the actual implementation of a socialist state would ruin peoples' lives. Even when people explained how at its most fundamental level what he was saying was doing Socialism no favors and he actually should choose his words carefully, he'd go right back to "Marxism would destroy the standard of living/America MUST be destroyed!"
And of course you've got third worldists who'll insist that when you push back on the notion that Marxism would in some way be "bad" for our country you're actually saying that people who own multiple homes wont be affected, which is ridiculous.
>>2870996yep unionization was peak in the 1960s
unionization is below 10% now
these retards think it's actually zero sum
>if third world get better, it must be because first world got worse
<if first world get better, it must be because third world got worse
there's more types of shit than zero sum, my god
The half time show is so fake, Madonna made some song
>music makes people come together
>something something bourgeouise
>>2871004Oh no, they rolled out mupeets and BTS
>>2870997Well that's because Felix is fundamentally an extremely dishonest individual who regularly makes use of the "Motte and Bailey" style of argument. Which is to say, making an absolutely ridiculous claim like "communism's goal is to DESTROY America and its standard of living" and then retreat up to the more defensible position of "woagh calm down all I said was I wanted the American GOVERNMENT destroyed, I'm advocating the same strategies as MLK! You think MLK was too radical? Is that it?" when confronted enough, followed by going back to the bullshit when he insists that MLK was a reactionary that should have been shot by communists
>>2871009Wrong file attached.
I will post the koreans after.
>>2871009Stalin did not like that
>>2871007Except that wealth is being transferred into the hands of a few at the top. Its like how conservatives talk about how "THE STOCK MARKET IS BETTER THAN EVER!" As if that means anything to the poor bastard working at Krogers while driving for Uber to afford Insulin.
>>2871007confusing
>iswith
>must be Looks like some MJ 80s AIDS shit now
>>2871019Crazy how trump would bomb this is this was in some other country.
>LoveAmerican hypocrisy is a special kind of talmudic evil.
>What protestantism does to your brain >>2870946It was his blood pressure medication
>>2871007you are either retarded or dishonest. neoliberal catch up development being a myth has nothing to do with the general question of whether there is a zero-sum struggle between the working class of the third world and the working class of the first world.
White boy sing that shit
>>2870997>>2870997I do think that we need to have less mindless consumption of resources
But i think life can be better with out planned obsolences and consumerist brainworms
Cammon espanol score some fackim goals!
>>2871022>>2871016What would the first world working class contribute to the rest of the world under socialism, that would make up for their current level of consumption?
>>2871024> he doesnt walk 19 miles each way on broken glass barefoot clean toilets in a 120f room with a tooth brushTreatler
workers of the world, do not unite. in fact, start to think of yourself as living in different worlds. three of them in fact. but people only talk about world 1 and world 3 for some reason.
i think USAnians legit think that the real living conditions of people in the third world are cartoon shit. like they think it's fake or something. you tell them what those conditions are for real with no exaggeration and they scoff and say 'you really expect me to believe that shit is real????' very interesting fascinating. and they take plain statements of such reality as morally offensive to them. as an attack on them. very peculiar. and funny
>>2871039>i think you think this no i know third worlders are miserable
>>2871039Which third world country do you live in?
>>2871038world 2 was treacherously destroyed in 1990 and I'm too lazy to update the tradition of dead generations it works just fine as it is probablu
>>2871026I mean that's what I think too! That's what blows my mind about this. I use the same wallet until it basically falls apart, did the same for my shoes, doing the same for my car; my buddy kept an old flip phone into the fucking 2020s. We can live with less commodities, who cares?
>>2871039>"Man I'm feeling pretty down, my dog just died."<"YEAH WELL MY DAD RAN OVER A CAT IN FRONT OF ME WHEN I WAS A KID, I HAVE IT WAY WORSE THAN YOU!"<"Why do firsties act like I'm attacking them? Seems pretty suspicious *italic italic italic*" >>2871044Internet made women obsolete.
>>2871037>socialism is when i i consume but don't contributeYou're describing capitalism from a bourgeois perspective
>>2871043the 2nd world today is not a socialist aligned bloc but rather the countries with a middle level of development and productive forces
>>2871044no one has hope for the future. we all, at least subconsciously, know that there is no good future for humanity.
>>2871047i didn't say that tho
>>2871046Western nations fertility rate collapsed below replacement over a hundred years ago after industrializing, anon
>>2871045look at you. turning dispassionate statements of fact into dramatic plays plays in your head. calm down. reflect.
>>2871055???
no one said that. what?
Slurpfest
>>2871039Because to begin to address the enormous disparity between the imperial core and periphery requires that the west make up for 500 years of imperialism and ill-gotten gains, by necessity reducing their living standards to something less luxurious and unsustainable or โthird worldโ. They know this and it terrifies them
>>2871056>do you think this?<i'm not gonna answer that. instead i'm gonna pretend your question is an accusationsneaky, but do you think that? you didn't say it, but do you think it?
Booooring. Can we talk about something else?
>>2871063read the post directly above yours.
>>2871055>if americans live like you will that make you live like americans? one side go up other side go down? do you think the world is a seesaw like a toddler? are you a little baby?>>2871056>no one said that. what?maybe you didn't but:
>>2871063>Because to begin to address the enormous disparity between the imperial core and periphery requires that the west make up for 500 years of imperialism and ill-gotten gains, by necessity reducing their living standards to something less luxurious and unsustainable or โthird worldโ. They know this and it terrifies them >>2871068Cute, now factor in the imperial core being forced to give back what it had stolen with interest and subtract that from whatโs needed for the national development of the third world. Uh oh!
>>2871063Does that include Russia? If not, why?
Were cancelling all foreign debts when we get into power uyghas
We're making the wall 10ft higher.
>>2871071>communism is a transactional relationship between different "worlds" rather than the workers of the one whole planet uniting>the proletariat of the first world must be collectively punished for what the first world bourgeoisie did through punitive "reparations" schemesdoesn't sound like abolition of class to me. sounds like more seesaw zero sum baby toddler แดuแดlossnW nationalist bullshit
Remember to hydrate and slurp
>>2871075Notice how the westoid immediately retreats to the absurd idealism that is โabolitionโ, as if Marxism were just another strain of liberal Utopianism contemplated in universities rather than the REAL MOVEMENT
>>2871071>with interesthe thinks socialism is when nations do usury on each other. uh oh!
Hosting the world cup is already enough reparations
>>2871071honestly just shut the fuck up and make it happen
i would rather live in a world where you take power and enslave me and throw me in a mine or a field or a minefield or a factory or whatever the fuck than listen to 5 more seconds of you fantasizing about it. come kill my treatler ass.
>da real muhment
>>2871062The throwing away is a symptom of superabundance which is exactly why consumption in the first world is so cheap thoughbeit
The throwing awy creates real consumption advantage: you can pick between donut and burgwr, the other gets thrown out
>>2871089>no, you can't actually just give whatever you don't use to third worlders, you MUST throw it out actuallyok porky
I will send exactly one free treat to every third worlder ITT who proves it with timestamp.
>>2871092no you're just gonna drone strike me and take my stuff hurr durr i refuse
posted from a basement in tel aviv >>2871092Is southern Italy third world?
>>2871089go back to epstein island, steven pinker
>>2871101I don't know. What you wanna talk about?
>>2871102Voluntary treat redustribution
>>2870977>The service member killed during the disposal of an Iranian drone in Iraq was not a bomb technician, but another soldier hit by debris or fragments when the drone was detonated, a US official says - NYT ahaha now it sounds legit
>>2870997>Of course, upon clarifying that war would ruin the standard of living, I don't think most people would disagree, but he was specifically saying Marxism would, as in, the actual implementation of a socialist state would ruin peoples' lives. Yeah a war would do that but people get hopelessly confused about this stuff. A catastrophic civil war wouldn't be a "preference," it'd probably happen because the army split rather than just crushing the workers, but it would be better if the army didn't split and just sided the workers and got it over with relatively bloodlessly. But the army splitting and a civil war destroying the country doesn't seem like something you'd wanna rank as a first-order preference. In any event it's a really big historical event that is not determined by individual will.
I think it comes out of some bizarre, mystical ultra-left thinking as a mental model. Example would be, say, in the Bolshevik revolution there was a lot of suffering, and those were due to historical circumstances. It doesn't mean the revolution was failing because living standards declined (there were objective reasons why: war, blockades, etc.). But then you get people who think that is, like, the "goal" of Marxism. Like having a pretty militaristic state where people are drilled for war all the time. It was like that because a large % of the working class died in the war, and the party which won had basically gone into a highly militarized mode to survive.
How about that soccer ting?
>>2871105yes, that, but also some people literally think socialism is when the working class in country A pays reparations plus interest to the working class of country B because of what country A's bourgeoisie did before the revolution.
>>2871109in socialism, rich countries should pay poor countries to help them catch up
>>2871112How can Marxism solve this problem?
>>2871113>paypay what? labour vouchers
Argetina commiting a foul every 3 minutes is pissingme off glad they got a red card
>>2871117fine, frame it as giving them industrial machinery or whatever then.
>>2871117In labor. 72 hour work weeks for firsties, 4 hour work days for thirdies
>>2871123Can someone tell me what Bill Maher is even famous for? Like who are his fans? Iโve seen that mother fucker since I was a kid and he always just came across as a narcissist.
>>2870863that vid. why is the PRC helping the USA on it's illegal war vs Iran?
>>2871128>seesaw brainyes and after a few hundred years of that, just reverse the situation again. do you want to end oppression or just flip the arrow
>>2871131incomplete. finish the video. PRC helps iran and russia get around US sanctions, this helps PRC because they have a bigger oil stockpile than everyone else, however they bail out the US as well because they need the US consumers to buy their stuff. basically, they are playing both sides and coming out on top.
>>2871128I've worked 70 hour work weeks. People in manufacturing, that is common.
>>2871130You have to remember that in the really dark days of evangelical tyranny in the USA, people like Bill Maher were subversive and made a lot of good points, but he's been left behind by the times and is not just an out of touch crank
>>2871139>You have to remember that in the really dark days of evangelical tyranny in the USA,that never ended
>>2871141I know that obviously we have people like Pete Hegseth but USA in 2026 is totally different from USA in 1996 or even 2006
>>2871139> people like Bill Maher were subversive and made a lot of good pointsmaher, dawkins, hitches, harris, etc. the "new atheists" were garbage because they were all neoliberal/neoconservative and imperialist. watch parenti destroy hitchens on the issue of the iraq war
>>2871130Saying the N word
>>2871143not different enough. zionist christians who literally believe helping israel will make jesus come back faster still run this country.
>>2871144of course parenti was more correct than all those guys but parenti was and is fringe, the new atheists got some mainstream-ish exposure and helped to move society more secular. of course they had pretty terrible politics in retrospect but still better than the status quo at the time
>>2871150you see them as having moved the needle but I see them as having hitched Atheism to the neoliberal establishment, which led us to the current situation where religious people get to act like they are the bigger anti imperialists… and with Iran doing more to fight America than China, it's hard to prove them wrong.
>>2871150society went from not really thinking about nonreligious people to regarding them as soy reddit fedora neckbeard atheists. was it really a win?
>>2871151atheism was never going to escape being hitched to the establishment, that's the price of getting mainstream acceptance.
>>2871153non-religion has grown massively and religion is less influential than ever, so yes, it was.
>>2871154completely disagree
>>2871130being an anti-PC comic in the 90s, got his own show, said something based after 9/11 which got his show cancelled
>>2871157So what do you see as the alternate model? Saying you're not an atheist unless you're anti-imperialist somehow?
Finally Spain scored
No golden boot, no trophy. It is over for ziocels.
Coal
Rip Pessi
>>2871163Dr. Nobody… I'm Polyphemous
>>2871159no, I just don't want bourgeois atheists to be the frontmen for atheism
>>2871156>religion is less influential than everorganized religion maybe
>non-religion has grown massivelymost nonreligious people are unfortunately 'spiritual but not religious" types who believe in a bunch of random woowoo bullshit but have abandoned organized religion.
The Beatles is bigger than Jesus
>>2871173Yo mamma is bogger than jesus
cuz she so fat >>2871171The community involvement one is crazy though.
Covid really broke people's brains.
Ziosisters, I don't feel so good….
>>2871153>>2871151I mean speaking as a Catholic I think yall are worrying too much about how Atheism is perceived, I donโt think you really need to subscribe to a worldview to be an atheist beyond โthere is no Godโ. The neoliberal atheists like Dawkins or Maher just subscribe passively to the dominant ideology of societyโwhich is neoliberal capitalism.
To be frank I find the more recent trend of those same figures, which is โcultural Christianityโ or โChristianity without belief in a Godโ to be far more silly/noxious.
Lmao dude the scuffle at the end
First world wins again, go home thirdies
>>2871178i'd like to see them bring it back and raise the age, see how the population reacts
oppressed nations lose again what a surprise
>>2871191this was his final attempt, btw. he, and cristiano ronaldo are too old to keep up with the same performance.
they lost their chances to win that cup from a boring championship.
>>2871193tankie ultras btfo forever eternally
>>2871196He already has gold, from 2022.
>>2871200espana has a feudal monarchy, gotta back up my new world latam bros on this one
>>2871200I don't see how this contradicts anything said.
Argies' jew could not save them
All hail sanchez!
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_NXzKJkwE6k>>2871205>espana has a feudal monarchyno it has a bourgeois constitutional monarchy. nobody does absolutism anymore except the arab gulf states.
>>2871205>monarchy>genocidal ethnostateSomebody post the Stalin Aghan Emir quote
<Again<The state of this board >>2871209every state is a genocidal ethnostate thats kinda how it works
>>2871201oh shi, I wasn't aware Argentina won in 2022. LMAO
they be like
>ethpanya
>>2871204I missed this, was this the red card moment
>>2871214No, after the final whistle
>>2871208just because its not legally outlined doesn't mean the royal family has influence in politics and interests of its own. don't care if its 'official' or not
constitutional monarchies are absolutist fascist states in a coma
>>2871222Crazy how that scuffle did not get carded
Also,
The curse is real
>>2871217you are discussing an entirely different question. constitutional monarchy does not mean the monarch has no influence on politics.
>>2871171>all forms of community are down and money is upthat's pretty bleak
>>2871223Aristos and royals donโt want the responsibility and headache of actually governing
>>2871177if money alone could kill religion, then it would have died in the 80s.
it also takes rational inquiry and reassuring people that they can actually walk away from religion
>>2871168that was inevitable, bourgeois X are the frontmen for every single thing basically
Feels like we need new types of workerโs organizations but no one has ideas on what that would look like
>>2871266He's absolutely correct. france should give up french Guiana too while we're at it
>>2871255>All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.
>The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his โnatural superiorsโ, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous โcash paymentโ. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom โ Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.
>The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers. Like, woah
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>>2871260>if money alone could kill religion, then it would have died in the 80s.religion has survived for thousands of years. the born of neoliberalism, it's a small drip in religion history bucket.
but the fact that neoliberalism has worked so well, it's what's amusing.
>>2871266Do the Israelis really want to start a conversation about stolen land?
>>2871281It's not just about neoliberalism, religion has been declining for centuries (albeit slowly) due to the rise of modernism and free thought
>>2871282>Do the Israelis really want to start a conversation about stolen land?Remember that when dealing with pissrael, they have enshrined double standards because their religion tells them to. When you do it it's bad, when they do it, it's good and ordained by G-d.
>>2871256Right as he was walking up at the start of the ceremony, my friend said:
>How is he going to make it all about himself?He never fails to deliver.
>>2871282>It's not just about neoliberalism>etcyeah, I am not denying this, but the undeniable evidence that neoliberalism has heavily destroyed religion in the west, and with more access to technologies that give access to educational materials, it's astounding. on point, money replaced religion and god.
>>2871299But itโs martyrdom and martyrdom is powerful or something
>>2871299Yeah I know it made no sense to venerate the cross.
>>2871298>is this really what you want your republican party to look likeit would certainly be an improvement, but not nearly enough.
>>2871298I would support this even more lol
>>2871256>>2871294only word comes to mind:
dickhead.
>>2871306Jesus is Yahweh and Yahweh committed a million sins during the course of the Old Testament
>>2871308honestly not like anyone is ever going to 'forgive' him, and his fans will never be offended so why not just go full out with it, triggering the libs is the only thing he has left
>>2871311yeah but he was ontologically perfect (according to himself) so he's actually sinless
no idea how anyone believes this shit
>>2871312Itโs the only thing he ever had, the only politics that can exist in the first world is resentment and spite
>>2871313He didnโt even break the covenant with David after he killed his best friend and got his widow pregnant, he just killed the baby. Thatโs after letting David have thousands of concubines including Egyptian ones that were still worshipping Ra and Osiris and shit.
>>2871298fake, putin would never go against israel
>>2871299at least clay david gave a little bit of cash back to the hood. in 2026 you wouldn't even get that. shieeeeet
>>2871332Davidโs thing was getting naked in the street and throwing raisins at children, which was the closest thing the Kingdom of Israel had to candy, it was a bleak time, no wonder everyone was insane
>>2871299The fish was always a better symbol anyway. It dates from when Christians had to communicate with secret codes and shit because they were considered subversive to Roman authority. It was also meant to emphasize Jesus' connection to ordinary people, e.g. fishermen.
>>2871339I thought it was because jesus pirated fish to feed the people
>>2871343You wouldnโt download a fish
>>2871279Everyone who dealt with modernity said something similar , hell durkheim got famous for declaring the profane invades the sacred
>>2871279we saw it happen in real time with the Taliban
>Almost two years after the Talibanโs takeover of Afghanistan, the jihadists who transitioned from the battlefields to paper-pushing government jobs in the city are ready to quiet quit. Researcher Sabawoon Samim interviewed five jihadists who had spent several years of their lives fighting for the Taliban. โThey ranged in age from 24 to 32 and had spent between six and 11 years in the Taliban, at different ranks: a Taliban commander, a sniper, a deputy commander and two fighters,โ Samim wrote in his report. โBroadly speaking, all of our interviewees preferred their time as fighters in what they considered a jihad.โ Now, the men find themselves shackled with the bureaucracy of running a country as they work civilian jobs and security positions, spend too much time in traffic and on Twitter, and yearn for the tranquility of village life. https://time.com/6263906/taliban-afghanistan-office-work-quiet-quit/ >>2871343That was part of it, but a couple of the Apostles were fishermen, and there is a lot of aquatic/fish imagery and metaphors in the gospels. Also the Greek word for fish "Icthys" was used as a secret code, acting as an acronym for a the phrase "Jesus Christ, God's Son, Saviour" in Greek.
>>2871365Do you think this is part of why the Emirate wants war with Pakistan? Distract themselves from the existential boredom?
>>2871381Sailing is gay as shit, fuck water, land is pussy
>>2871260I feel like the post is less saying โmoney kills religionโ and more that โmoneyโ becomes kind of divine in itself and gradually supplants religion.
>>2871316Thereโs actually a fairly plausible theory that King Solomon was Uriahโs son and the โGod killed the baby from Davidโs marriage to Uriahโs wifeโ was a post-hoc story to hide Solomonโs lineage.
>>2871292Thereโs a funny moment in medieval Rabbinical Debates where they claim Jews that agree with Kabbalah are worse than Christians โBecause the Christians only divide God into 3.
Imagine being in the harem, competing with all these other women trying to look pretty, perfecting your sexy dance and seductive looks and shit just for Solomon to sulk in the other room going
>pussy and money ainโt shit, fuck all that
>>2871365talibros facing existential dread from that 9-5 life
>>2871535No one is doing WWII style beach landings ever again, get that through your head
>>2871538try looking at a map
>>2871544Crossing a body of water completely changes the game for any infantry trying to do it and itโs far too costly for the attacking team, get that through your thick skull
>>2871535>>2871535>mplications of this?None because it is just some commentator running his mouth. I wouldn't take it seriously even if he was an IRGC commander.
>>2871549Taiwan controls islands barely a km from the shores of the mainland, do you know why? Duckboat landings are high casualty clusterfucks and have only become more costly since WWII
>>2871554any non-idiot would go through iraqs infamously porous borders and skip the sea element entirely, its not like iraq would want to stop their neighbors yankee bases from being destroyed anyway
>>2871558But America would just blow them up.
>>2871559they wont even blow up the main oil terminal on Khark. americas been pussyfooting around this whole 'war' and irans smelling blood. where's the american commitment to fighting seriously? nowhere to be seen
>>2871562Serious fighting means serious casualties which is political suicide in Amerikkka
>>2871172Pretty much non-denominational Christian
>>2871171>>2871044This decline in all fields except money showcases that it relates to global nihilism about the future and believing in essentially nothing including no religion, community, history,etc. This has happened multiple times in different crisis moments
Just had a thought, but I think in some part the decline in religiosity is closer to a project that mightโve started with evangelicalism and new age stuff. Like youโll see a lot of โIโm spiritual, not religiousโ stuff in some of the polls on declining religiosity. Itโs less a communal practice and more something of a personal preference. I think the rise of various kinds of paganism and โwitchcraftโ is a symptom of that; the future may be less people adhering to any one religious practice and more people creating little shrines of a variety of religious figuresโthereโs a great moment in the HBO documentary โRenFaireโ where you find out the owner of the eponymous fair built a church for himself on his land and worships โJesus, Buddha, and the Angel Moroniโ and we might see something like that become increasingly the norm; people with no religious affiliation but shrines decorated with fetishes to beings they want to invoke.
Shit, maybe even conservatives will get in on the new paganismโforming strange shrines asking Trump, Chris Kyle, and White Jesus to watch over them.
Now personally I think thereโs a rather sad aspect to this. I think communal religious experience is just asโif not moreโimportant than private religious practice. A group of pagans celebrating Samhain or holding a Blot would be preferable I think compared to people just retreating into an entirely individual theology.
Either way I think religion is more likely to morph than die.
>>2871593I think it's more you have a biased and secularized view of spirituality, like a lot of people, and see it more as a social club. Some people are actually serious about it and spirituality has always been about solitude and personal practice. Jesus alone in the desert and what not.
I never liked the term paganism and it's strange to me how it's used in academic context when it doesn't mean anything other than "heretic" really.
I think meditation is the best spiritual practice. You don't even have to have any spiritual beliefs to do it. The soyence says it's good for you and even builds neurons.
>Meditation physically rewires the brain (neuroplasticity) by altering neuron structure and connectivity. It thickens the prefrontal cortex for better focus and shrinks the amygdala to reduce stress. Regular practice also quiets the default mode network, curbing anxiety, and increases gray matter to aid memory and emotional regulationhttps://stanfordmag.org/contents/what-happens-when-you-meditatehttps://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/mindfulness-meditation-improves-connections-in-the-brain-201104082253I never really got into group meditation. I don't see how that really helps in any way. To me it's like group reading or writing or something, which I guess helps some people? Doesn't really make sense to me there is any advantage to silently doing an individual activity with a group but to each their own.
>>2871615And what's the worst aspect of religion? It's having authority figures trying to control your life as if that was something people were missing, lol. Meditation and independent practice are the opposite of that.
>>2871062Thank you, finally someone with brains really talking about this nonsense that "Third-Worldists" (A.K.A CIA agents or Third-world nationalist/ethnocentric bourgeoisie/petite-bourgeoisie) keep on spouting.
>>2871615>I never really got into group meditation. I don't see how that really helps in any way. To me it's like group reading or writing or something, which I guess helps some people? Doesn't really make sense to me there is any advantage to silently doing an individual activity with a group but to each their own.I suspect it might have to do with mirror neurons. I also thought I did everything better solitary but then I started going to the gym instead of exercising at home and I felt way more motivated. Maybe it was the equipment and the dedicated environment, but also looking around and seeing other people work out gave me motivation. I'm not very social so this surprised me.
>>2871610First time I've been told I've got a secular view of spirituality.
See I don't deny that its important within the broader context of religion to have a personal spirituality; y'know, your own "Jesus in the desert" moment. My fear is that when that personal spiritual experience isn't grounded in a communal religious life (not necessarily "become a priest" but rather sharing in the religion with others) the risk someone runs is a kind of self-flattery at best and megalomaniacal psychosis. They don't see "God" or "Reality" as conceptually something beyond the self and more see it as a reflection
of the self.That's why I said I'd much rather see even Pagan expressions of faith which retain that communal grounding over wholly individualized religious practices. And to be clear I think this is a danger for just about anyone, there are plenty of Christians who'd supplant God with their own ego.
Why has this thread been overrun with Asinine discussions about Schizophrenic Bronze Age Bullshit, AKA โReligionโ and โMythologyโ, ๐๐คฃ๐คข๐คฎ๐ค?
>>2871652I personally have a secular view of spirituality I call my specific philosophy Post-Atheism
>>2871062>THERE IS ONLY ONE PLANET NOT THREE WORLDS BANGER slogan! Will use this
>>2871653Unfortunately itโs a big part of why weโre here in this status quo
>>2871653USAnians are obsessed with psychoanalysis, mysticism and other similar quackery
>>2871658>>2871660As a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist, I understand that โReligionโ is a key part of the Reactionary Superstructure of every Pre-Socialist Mode of Production (ie. Capitalist, Feudal, Ancient, and even Primitive Communal Modes of Production), but for Real Communists (Marxist-Leninist-Maoists) the analysis of โReligionโ should begin and end with its critical role in the Base-Superstructure model, as the primary Reactionary Superstructure that reinforces the Capitalist Mode of Production (and historically the Feudal, Ancient, and even Primitive Communal Modes of Production), but no โReligionโ or โMythologyโ should EVER be analyzed as a โrationalโ and/or โlogicalโ worldview in its own right with logical consistency, let alone โfetishizedโ and/or โjustifiedโ as something compatible with Communism (ie. The delusions of โLiberation Theologyโ, โProgressive Christianityโ, and the recent widespread Islamophilia amongst Western Leftists and the Multipolar Khrushchevite Dengist Revisionist Social Imperialist Social Fascist Capitalist Roader crowd, etc.), ๐๐คฃ๐คข๐คฎโ๐๐จ๐ณ๐ฐ๐ต๐จ๐บ๐ต๐ธ๐ณ๏ธโ๐๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ๐โข๏ธ ๐โโ๏ธ๐ฉโ๐ฆฒ!
>>2871656Post-kill yourself
>>2871671Glad you liked that
>>2871667>>2871653>>2871668Why the fuck do you talk like this? Who are you convincing?
>>2871675wait until you see his retarded map
>>2871675king lear rules you must be new here
>>2871717No. Luckily I will die from a heart attack in about 5 years.
>>2871717What does "make it" even mean? By some accounts, everyone "makes it" until they die, but everyone dies eventually. Some of us ITT may live to see the year 2100. Some of us ITT may die tomorrow. Who knows? What does it matter?
>>2870944Heโs an interesting character but what did Willich really do except aura farm? We still donโt have socialism in the U.S. and they all technically failed.
>>2871256Bro looks photoshopped in
>>2871652>See I don't deny that its important within the broader context of religion to have a personal spirituality; It's really the only thing. If you have that anything can be a part of your spiritual experience. So a communal spiritual experience with other people also seeking spiritual experience isn't a bad thing per se. I think organized religion can actually lead you further and be the block itself to attaining spiritual experience, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it. Where instead of actually having the experience, you are merely talking about it and trying to intellectualize it.
>>2871593And you're kind of sneering at some supposed self-invented "pagan" idolatry and ritualism, but the Catholic church is built on that. Basically you're going:
>Heh, these fools, don't they know they're not even doing the magic rituals the right way? I think rituals can have their place in spiritual practice but only in the same way that having your "daily ritual" that you do to prepare yourself for the day ahead or your "daily ritual" you do before bed. The ritual is only important in the sense of what kind of mental effect it has upon yourself and each person's will be different. Once you lose sight of that, you're turning to superstition.
And to speak of the dangers of ego, man. Organized religion are the kings of dangerous egos. Just because you've transferred your ego identity to a group doesn't make it any less such. You know, like nationalists, Nazis, other cults. Really it is the worst type of self-flattery and megalomaniac psychosis" because you have another real person reinforcing it. "Folie a deux" and all that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deuxAnd then the whole hierarchy and submitting to authority is also obviously bad for a lot of obvious reasons, but even on the lighter end of bad, the idea of you're going to have another person do your own spiritual work on your behalf is a huge roadblock. Like you're in a workout group, and you ask your trainer "I've been having some lower back pain, can you do some sit-ups for me?" That's fucking crazy.
>>2871554china could declare a blockade of taiwan tomorrow and taiwan would cease to exist. shit, as their primary trade partner china could sanction taiwan tomorrow and taiwan would cease to exist. shit, the PLA could liberate okinowa tomorrow and the combined might of the US, Canadian, and Australian armed forces would be like
> haha well played, guess you earned that one.because they couldn't do shit to stop it. all this was figured out BEFORE trump put an incontinent alcoholic and a bunch of chomos in charge of the DOD. it would be a fatter L for 2026 cuckmerica.
>>2871653Being obsessed with cultural national autonomy leaves you no room to talk, Nazi
>>2871851
Go back pol
Trust the plan. Bernard Brothers are in control.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/shenna-bellows-drops-maines-senate-race-troy-jackson-builds-democratic-rcna588242
>?SANFORD, Maine โ Former state Senate President Troy Jackson emerged from a whirlwind weekend of voting as Maine Democratsโ likely pick to take on GOP Sen. Susan Collins.
>By Sunday night, all of Jacksonโs major opponents had dropped out of the race, including Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows, physician Nirav Shah and former congressional staffer Jordan Wood, who reversed course after initially committing to remain in the race.
>Bellows made her announcement Sunday morning, while Shah exited the race Sunday evening after Democrats across the state selected delegates to next weekโs state nominating convention. Jackson quickly established a seemingly insurmountable advantage in delegates as his supporters swept counties throughout the state.
>Jacksonโs supporters won 481 of the 500 convention seats up for grabs this weekend, according to his campaign. Those delegates are not technically required to support Jackson at the convention, but with such a strong showing, his nomination became a foregone conclusion.
>A logger and former legislator, Jackson doesnโt officially become the nominee until the state convention next week. There, delegates will pick a new nominee to take on GOP Sen. Susan Collins, replacing primary winner Graham Platner after he abruptly ended his campaign last week following a sexual assault allegation, which he denied.
<โI think that Troy can beat Susan Collins. I think itโs going to be difficult, though, because he helped introduce us to Graham and got a lot of โ conveyed a lot of trust and authority onto him, as did Bernie Sanders,โ Wood told NBC News at the York County meeting Sunday morning. Sanders endorsed both Platner and Jackson in their primaries earlier this year, but has stayed neutral after Platner ended his Senate bid.>>2871904blacks in america have always been class traitors and i'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>2871904Overweight PAWGs
>>2871927Nah itโs all Amerikkkans
>>2871927there's pretty much minimal difference between black and white americans tbh
>>2871927Non-burger black people have known tgis for years that's why FBAs are so right wing.
>>2871904https://thehill.com/opinion/robbys-radar/5972308-el-sayed-stevens-polling-gap/amp/Black voters hate lefty socialist Abdul El-Sayed, back opponent >Thatโs because Black voters are a moderating force within the Democratic Party. Itโs hard for some people to understand, but among Democrats, Black people tend to be much more moderate than white people. Itโs not true overall, because there are a lot more white Republicans than there are Black Republicans; most Black people are, in fact, Democrats. But white people who are Democrats tend to be well to the left of Black people who are Democrats.
>This matters because the socialist left is perpetually claiming that theirs is the agenda of the working class. And yet their voters are not the working class. Their voters are elite people, and people who control elite institutions. The activists who picked Platner to be the candidate in Maine were nepo babies and elite college graduates who thought that a gruff-sounding guy would be perfect to appeal to blue-collar voters in Maine, and there was no need to scrutinize his platform or check to make sure he didnโt have any, say, sexual assault accusations against him.
<the guy who wrote the article in the middlekek.
Black socialists get killed and that scares the rest of black people into voting for the worst zionist democrats, itโs a hostage situation, they arenโt โbetrayingโ shit
Also voters of ANY demographic arenโt representative because most people do not vote at all
>>2871950>And yet their voters are not the working class. Their voters are elite people, and people who control elite institutions. Sounds right out of something you might hear on Fox News.
>>2871958This, also regular black voters are likely old negros that remember where they were when JFK got clapped.
>>2871927>have always beenalways? Frederick Douglass said wage slavery is barely better than chattel slavery and should go down with chattel slavery. I think between reconstruction and the civil rights movement there was a lot of socialist potential in that subsection of the US population and still is
But ignoring all that I think it's very strange that so many of you respond this way to polling data. This is a democratic primary we're talking about. Not exactly revolutionary politics.
>>2871935depends on what you mean by that. the history of how the two groups are treated by the state and by the ruling class is very different.
I think it's weird
>>2871945FBA is fringe online glowie bullshit and should not be seen as representative of the population
>>2871958>>2871961This This
>>2871963>depends on what you mean by that. i mean in terms of attitude in the underclasses there's minimal differences between the two, especially in the younger cohorts
>>2871970I suppose I should just do a textdump of the article.
The insult (and itโs most definitely an insult) is jarringly counterintuitive. It conflates the Democratsโ team color with President Trumpโs Make America Great Again slogan, in all its blazing glory.
โBlue MAGAโ is a call-out increasingly used online by young progressives, who reflect what pollsters find is Gen Zโs broader lack of faith in traditional party politics. Older liberals who fail to grasp the urgency of the moment are, in the young progressivesโ view, nearly as dangerous as Trump and his supporters. And it was enjoyable for the extremely online left to watch their elders react with displeasure to the rise of candidates associated with the Democratic Socialists of America.
Or as the influential progressive streamer Hasan Piker put it in May: โBlue MAGA is crying a lot lately.โ
He uses the term to describe what he sees as illogical devotion to a party establishment.
โBlue MAGA is about cultlike loyalty to the Democratic Party, but unlike MAGA, it isnโt centered around one person,โ Piker said via text message. โItโs centered around the image of a party that consultants and lobbyists have carefully curated.โ
Itโs not an apples-to-apples comparison, as progressives freely acknowledge. But itโs close enough, especially since social media rewards labels with fuzzy borders that are easy to apply. โMAGA leaves the power in the hands of Donald Trump,โ Piker said. โBlue MAGA leaves the power in the hands of a neoliberal Democratic Party that tells them better things arenโt possible.โ
That feeling of hostility toward the far left from moderate Democrats engendered an equally strong with-friends-like-these backlash.
โIf you do dare validly critique a Democrat, you are a traitor to the cause instead of a constituent acting out of valid concern,โ Michael Kocher, a progressive content creator, wrote in an email. In one video posted to TikTok, where he has 236,000 followers, Kocher mocks Representative Hakeem Jeffries as being on โlife supportโ after three anti-establishment, far-left candidates won primary contests in New York. (A spokeswoman for Jeffries did not offer comment for this article. On social media, last month, he congratulated the progressive candidates who won in New York City, depicting their common enemy as โfar-right extremism.โ)
โBlue MAGA Melts Down,โ Kocherโs video was titled.
What does โBlue MAGAโ mean?
People who use โBlue MAGAโ grasp that it is imprecise and inexact. They donโt think that matters all that much.
โI think the term, just like so many online, has taken on a life of its own,โ said the content creator Will McCaffery, who has about 220,000 followers on Instagram and TikTok.
โAs with a lot of internet insults, the meaning kind of drifts to fit whatever insult we want to levy at that particular group at that time,โ McCaffery added in an email. โIn this case, the group is just the vitriolic defenders of establishment Democrats and liberalism. Itโs not that theyโve adopted MAGA strategies into a blue ideology; itโs that they are a MAGA ideology that has just put a blue label on.โ
To the progressive podcaster Jerone Ingram, โBlue MAGAโ is the triumph of institutional loyalty over political imagination. โRed versus blue โ nothing else matters, just as long as Democrats win,โ he said when asked to define the term.
Inherent in the insult is the conviction that the original MAGA has been a malevolent force in American politics. Liberals who wore knit pink โpussy hatsโ to the 2017 Womenโs March and attended โNo Kingsโ rallies in 2025 would seem to agree. That they have been branded โBlue MAGAโ by progressives appears to indicate that, for some, their efforts have not been nearly enough.
Among the furious and impatient is a progressive TikToker who writes and performs as Blakeley. In a video last month, as moderate Democrats distanced themselves from some D.S.A. candidates and their positions, Blakeley criticized โBlue MAGAโ as โfascist collaborators.โ
No one wants to be โBlue MAGAโ
It turns out that people like being called โBlue MAGAโ about as much as they like being branded a โKaren.โ
โDemocrats have always had to contend with a wing of the party that was not only far to the left of the Democratic mainstream but also one that portrays itself as intellectually and morally superior than the rest of Democratic voters,โ said Jon Cowan, who co-founded the moderate think tank Third Way. โThey tend to be young, highly educated, white, urban transplants who have no patience for any nuance or dissenting views.โ
โThey have absolutely no clue how arrogant and condescending they sound,โ Cowan said after viewing one of the TikTok clips bashing โBlue MAGA.โ
Max Rose, who represented Staten Island and a part of Brooklyn in Congress from 2019 to 2021, is a combat veteran and a vocal supporter of Israel. During his time on Capitol Hill, he regularly antagonized progressives. After the 2024 election, he considered running to lead the Democratic National Committee โ a move some would call very โBlue MAGA.โ
Reached by phone this month, Rose said he welcomed an injection of youthful energy into the party ranks, but not if it devolved into an all-the-neighbors-are-watching fight.
โYou can primary whoever you want, bro,โ Rose said. But fighting fellow Democrats instead of Republicans is, in his view, โidiocy.โ
Where does the term Blue MAGA come from?
On July 23, 2015, Trump arrived at the U.S.-Mexico border debuting a hat emblazoned with his new campaign slogan: โMake America Great Again.โ
โBlue MAGAโ followed some two years later.
There were scattered online references to the term in 2017, according to Know Your Meme, a site that tracks internet culture. But back then, usage remained relatively rare.
During the 2020 Democratic primaries, some people on the left used the term to criticize supporters of more moderate candidates โ specifically, fans of Joe Biden.
In the 2024 contest, โBlue MAGAโ took on an edgier connotation. How could Democrats not see that Biden didnโt have the stamina for a re-election contest, progressives wondered? Were they as blind to their leaderโs faults as the left thought the G.O.P. was to theirs?
โYou have this anger building at seeing the Democratic establishment try these more moderate candidates again and again and again and again,โ Andrew Flack, a Los Angeles-based commentator, said, describing how the leftโs frustration had grown over the last several years. โThe entire time, the left is saying, โWe need to be more progressive,โโ he added.
Who else has been called โBlue MAGAโ?
Some moderates have lobbed the โBlue MAGAโ charge back at progressives, describing their far-left positions as analogous to what they see as MAGAโs own ideological excesses.
โThe D.S.A. and their radical allies are actually the ones enabling Red MAGA,โ Cowan, of Third Way, said, going on to characterize their views as calling for โabolishing all prisons, police and borders.โ
In recent days, moderates have applied the label to supporters of Graham Platner, the progressive Maine candidate who dropped his bid for the U.S. Senate after a rape allegation against him surfaced. (Platner has denied the allegation.) Even before that, Platner had faced questions about a tattoo that appeared to display Nazi imagery, as well as incendiary online postings.
โI have been shocked to watch my party embrace what I believe is blue MAGA,โ Shannon Watts, an advocate for gun control, said on a podcast. She was describing her shock at โthe amount of hate and vitriol I have endured online, on X, because of my opposition to Graham Platner.โ
In 2025, Vanity Fair noted that Representative Ro Khanna, a Democrat of California, used the phrase as a lighthearted allusion to what the magazine called his โkinder, gentler version of Trumpism.โ
Khanna now rejects the term, however. โI wouldnโt call myself โBlue MAGA,โโ he said in a text message. โI call myself Team America.โ
Piker, the streamer, said that ultimately, the phrase was more reflective of fissures in internet culture than real-life divisions.
โI think weโre just having a little bit of fun,โ he said.
>>2871339>>2871303>>2871299>>2871301You all receive the don't understand graphic design award. The cross is one of the best logos of all time you cretins. Simple, iconic, instantly recognizable, metaphorical, literal, it's a great symbol for the religion
>The fish was always a better symbol anywayI hate you, the fish sucks balls
>>2871549isn't it like totally fucking swampy in the region tho? That's why Saddam made no progress at all for years trying to take the iranian side of the area.
>>2871950Black voters I believe ended up supporting Mamdani in the general over Cuomo after a weak showing in the primary. Black voters I believe split 50/50 in the Daria Chevalier race (she's also Muslim although not Arab). So I wonder what's going on in Michigan?
>>2871950I'm so tired of mediocre bourg/petty-bourg failsons lecturing everyone else about who the "working class" is.
>>2871904My guess is Black churches are being pumped full of Zionist propaganda.
Here is some high-value information on a genocidal labor aristocrat. Everyone know he has money and where to find it
>>2871652you should probably call yyour bank and move your fortune around. but write more essay about mosely you maki-loving piece of shit.
>>2872013Jobless behavior
>>41897
a great sum of you are pedophiles. Moffin is a confirmed pedophile from GETCHAN which has a loli thread. It is my duty as a human being to report this website to as many national and international agencies as possible. Behead pedouyghur anime watcher
>>2872014put your tag back on,, pedophile mod. only pedophile moderator reply instantly like that. unless you really think the labor aristocrat discussion of theology is interesting.
>>2872016What are you gonna do, spam the thread with gore and scat again to prove how you're not a degenerate?
I swear it's like the poor man's version of Francis E Dec
The DNC are fake panicking, they secretly love the DSA
>>2872026Youโre posting on a pedo board making you a pedo
https://www.wkbn.com/news/national-world/suspect-in-custody-after-fireworks-set-off-outside-federal-plaza-in-nyc-fbi/Three people were injured in New York City when a suspect allegedly set off fireworks near a federal immigration building in Lower Manhattan on Monday morning, authorities said.
Officials responded to a fire near 26 Federal Plaza between Worth and Lafayette streets at around 8:30 a.m., according to the FDNY. Authorities said the fire appeared to have been started by fireworks, which were loaded into a wagon bearing a sign that read โICE off our streets.โ
Federal officers were seen apprehending the suspect outside the immigration building, as seen in video from the scene.
โThis morning, an individual deployed an incendiary device outside of 26 Federal Plaza. The individual has been taken into custody, and the FBI New York Joint Terrorism Task Force is investigating the incident,โ according to a statement from the FBI.
Two people were taken to the hospital for treatment, and one person suffered minor injuries and refused medical attention at the scene, according to the FDNY.
The suspect has not been identified, and the charges are pending. The investigation is ongoing.
โWhat occurred outside 26 Federal Plaza this morning was deeply disturbing. Iโm relieved no one was seriously injured and that a suspect is in custody,โ Mayor Zohran Mamdani posted on X. โMy team is in touch with the NYPD and we will support the federal investigation. Our administration will continue to ensure that every New Yorker is safe in their city โ and hold accountable any who threaten that.โ
>>2872033
>BANNED WITHIN THE MINUTE, THE PEDOPHILES ARE PUTTING IN ANOTHER 8 16 HOUR SHIFT, ON FRIDAY NO LESS xD. YOU SAD EPSTEIN FUCKS
it's monday tho. update your pasta
sigh
>>2872045lol this guy needs a hobby
>>2872046R.I.P. trve and avthentic proletarian which Iraninan mvllahs killed
America is a pirate communist society
>>2872053A severely mentally ill loser who lurks the site all day waiting for the TOR node to be unbanned so he can spam these ridiculous copypastas, pay him no mind
>>2872054i bet he automates it
>>2872060>You will never be sanctioned.>You will never have warships or airships blockade you. >You will never be invaded.>You will never be bombed.>But you will wish you hadbold of you to use future tense
>>2871922>>2871923Man, nobody is going to comment? Maybe I didn't lay it out clearly enough and since you guys can't read anything longer than a tweet:
<this is the guy who is going to take Platner's spot. >>2872046RIP Barracks Bunny
>>2872046The "poverty draft" myth has to die, most of US soldiers are either family legacy or/and the middle class strata with downward mobility anxieties. Mind you its a volunteer army not a conscripted one
>>2872066Agreed, and I have said this many times. Really the way to tell if someone is poverty draft or not is to look at them on a case by case basis. In American Samoa for instance people join the military because it's the only path out. But it's really not the case in most places on the mainland.
>>2872062I mean are you insinuating that this guy is a fake populist or something because of the previous Sanders support and connection to platner? They probably do need someone who is at least policy-wise similar to platner to avoid a backlash. I actually expected the dem establishment was NOT serious about winning in Maine and would put a terrible moderate on the ticket so that they could blame the loss of Maine and the Senate all on Platner and insurgent progressives in general to make sure nobody tries to go against the DCCC ever again.
>>2872075>I mean are you insinuating that this guy is a fake populist or something because of the previous Sanders support and connection to platner?Didn't insinuate anything, just thought since you guys were so obsessed with the Platner guy you might be interested in who replaced him(or will very shortly, he has it in the bag but it's not official)
>I actually expected the dem establishment was NOT serious about winning in Maine and would put a terrible moderate on the ticket so that they could blame the loss of Maine and the Senate all on Platner and insurgent progressives in general to make sure nobody tries to go against the DCCC ever again.I thought so too, but it looks like the Bernie crowd didn't let the Platner fiasco take all the wind out their sails and that they are too strong in Maine to not secure it for someone on the Bernie side of politics. Apparently according to that article Bernie endorsed both him and Platner in the primary.
Mamdani vows to end treatsploitation in NYC.
>Mamdani: In a win for every ice cream lover across New York City, we will work with the state to do away with the frozen dessert permit that requires restaurants to seek out a superfluous second permit for what theyโre already doing: serving food.
>No more treat-sploitation, as we say.
>Right now, barbershops need three licenses to cut hair: one to be a barber, one to own the shop, and one from the city on top of both.
>The state of affairs is frankly anti-fade, and we will not stand for it, which is why we will work with the state to streamline these licenses as well.
>And to the bingo enthusiasts out there, for too long, the potential earnings of a hot streak at bingo have been capped by arcane rules that no longer reflect how the game is actually being played.
>With OPEN, DCWP will remove unnecessary regulations, including prize limits.
>These are just a few of the improvements we are proud to announce today as we make it clear we are in the pocket of Big Abuela.
Now this is common sense treatlerism I can get behind.
>>2871945>>2871963>FBAThat is next level terminally online. They unironically try to siphon votes to the Republicans and if you know basic American Politics, Black voters vote disproportionately democratic. FBA looks down on most black americans they claim to represent because they are too welcoming to the "tethers" and should cut ties or any interest in Africa. When future files get released, guaranteed that FBA will be found out to be an FBI psyop
I love this clip. Even though it is very old it is a microcosm of everything wrong with the US military, the US media, US imperialism, etc.
Let me break it down with some analysis:
>0:00 - 0:05
>There was still some looting going on when we arrived
Right away there is this authoritative professional sounding narrator who assures you that "some looting was going on." No evidence, no trial, no jury, no judge, just reassurance from the US media that Iraqis were "looting" their own country As Americans occupy it.
>0:05-0:12
>When we came across soldiers, they didn't seem sure of their role.
This part is meant to disarm you. The narrator is mildly critical of the US military. The soldiers "don't seem sure of their role." This allows the conservative America to block out the entire segment mentally as being unpatriotic and having a liberal bias, to dismiss it entirely. This allows the liberal American to see this entire clip as the extent to which the US military should be criticized. The soldiers are not the looters, the Iraqis are. However the poor bumbling volunteer invaders are "not sure of their role." How unfortunate. Both liberals and conservatives come away from the clip with their cognitive biases reinforced.
>0:12-0:15
>That child don't need to be here! Know what school is? That's where he needs to be, not following you.
The Iraqi is berated by the invader for not sending his child to school even though the Americans have probably already bombed it or made it dangerous to walk to alone.
>0:15-0:25
>We filmed these GIs after they caught a group of Iraqis stealing wood.
Again the viewer is instructed by the media that the Iraqis are guilty. No evidence required. They "stole" the wood on top of their car because the GIs said so.
>0:25-0:32
>We tried to stop them from looting but they don't understand so we take their car and crush it.
The narrator does not stop to question this logic at all. It is simply assumed that the Iraqis are guilty of stealing a few dollars worth of wood and that destroying their vehicle, their means of getting around, is the appropriate response.
>0:32-0:40
The US soldiers mag dump into the car for no apparent reason. They are going to crush the car but it is also necessary to waste bullets on it. This allows them to blow off steam and have fun at the expense of the Iraqi citizens and the US taxpayer.
>0:40-1:09
The car is crushed, and the "stolen wood" that was a pretext for this entire spectacle is not removed from the car, getting crushed along with the car. Supposedly this wood was so valuable that crushing a car was the appropriate response to its alleged theft, yet it is destroyed along with the car. What was the point? Nobody knows, but the narrator is silent.
>1:09-1:13
>That's what you get when you loot!
The soldier confidently reasserts the guilt of the Iraqis, and declares that justice has been served.
>1:16-1:21
>Later, the car's owner tells us, "I am a taxi driver. The car was my livelihood."
Despite not questioning the necessity of anything that happened, the clip reassures you that someone's livelihood was destroyed.
Now how do you think the average liberal and conservative American responded to this clip when it first aired? I'd like to think it went something like this:
Liberal: Oh how dreadful! Bush's war is so bad! Our soldiers are such dumb uneducated hicks! They should have simply arrested those Iraqis for stealing instead of brashly destroying their car! Do they think this is a monster truck derby?
Conservative: They had it coming cus they looted. USA! USA! USA!
>>2872076Really all you have to do is say you want to do something about health care to get a Bernie endorsement; he really seems like he's a one track focus on that issue. For all the complaining about Platner being a fake person created by "leftist elite consultants" it's pretty clear he had built on the ground energy in the State that could continue beyond one person's candidacy. It's something DSA should be learning, though Platner (and I think Troy Jackson) are unaffiliated of course.
>>2871963>But ignoring all that I think it's very strange that so many of you respond this way to polling data. This is a democratic primary we're talking about. Not exactly revolutionary politics.That's the thing, every poll shows that black people have the highest approval of socialism out of any group, most negative view of capitalism out of any group and have the most solidarity with Cuba than any group in the country. Seeing that Mamdani got black support after winning the primary, it is more pragmatism than anything else and one of the last remaining political machines in older black folks. Not to mention felons can't vote in a lot of states which already shrinks the voting pool.
>>2871919>Idk my theory is that since post-civil rights black people have been granted entry into the bourgeois and the state will even subsidies black entrepreneurs and colleges. You also got a lot of black leaders that were folded into the corporate democrat structure as well. Or it depends on how much money you have. It's interesting to go down to the municipal level and see how this works. In Dallas there's a longstanding black boomer politician named John Wiley Price who is like the black Trump.
He's an interesting character because he is very Democratic Party establishment, and also really like Trump, he cares about enriching himself (he was also a salesman before entering politics, and apparently a very good one), and will also say lots of stuff about race to deliberately try to provoke. He started getting involved in politics when Black Power in the late 60s, early 70s was in full swing and he incorporated a Pan-African texture into his politics. He will go on a rant in a county commissioner's meeting about why the term "black hole" (the interstellar phenomenon) is racist. But he's always looking to cut a deal and that's part of his strategy to escalate when he's trying to get cut in on something. He will work with white Republican business guys, represent animal fat rendering factories against his own poor constituents, if he can get something out of it.
But if you look at it from his perspective, there has been a "look at this uppity black guy" tone to media coverage of Price and his antics going back to the 1980s. He has a strong sense of defiance about that, and he has continually been reelected because enough of his constituents in South Dallas see him as
their guy. What this means is that he cuts black petit-bourgeois business owners in on city contracts. A lot of this cultural pan-African stuff is really a petit-bourgeois phenomenon (Price is also a collector of African art). Like when the Salvation Army takes senior citizens to nutrition programs, they fill up their vans at a gas station which he owns, which was paid for with a loan provided by one of the wealthiest (white) Republican developers in the region. A corporation is opening up an office in the city, he will dig through their advertisements for something that he can twist into appearing racist in some kind of way, and then blow this up into a wrong inflicted on the black community, but that's a way for him to get meeting with the executives and he'll propose that the vending machines in the building be serviced by a company owned by his brother-in-law.
There's a lot of stuff like that. Anyways the vending machine company hires black guys so it is technically steering money into the black community. At any rate I think his view is sort of like hate the game not the player, and the white Republican business owners who really run the city are ruthless. Historically if you read about the history of racism in Dallas, it's so bleak that dystopian sci-fi will cheer you up. When Price's parents were growing up, the KKK was whipping people. Like in the 1920s. Conditions were not good to say the least. Also white neighborhoods would bomb black neighborhoods in the 1940s and 1950s. So Price is, like, there are millions / billions of dollars at stake. Anytime somebody gets a contract to pick up a shovel and dig a hole, the question for him is whether black people are partners on the project. He knows what he's talking about.
He also has an Afropessimist view of the world. He doesn't think things have improved for black people really at all. There's also an argument that Afropessimism also comes out of a petit-bourgeois background, even if it appears radical, it's really not, and it can come from some places that are closer to the core or center of the Democrats. It can justify a notion that Palestinians are also anti-black so who gives a fuck about Palestine.
A funny part of the story is that, also like Trump, the feds have repeatedly gone after him for bribery, all kinds of corruption, but has never landed a conviction.
>>2872093I remember when he said Iran did the USS Cole lol. I dunno may McVeigh was a secret IRGC agent next.
>>2872093>will not be arrestedHe's right. It was really stupid of Mamdani to promise that in his campaign if he wasn't willing to fire the NYPD police commissioner. Now he's going to be made to look like a chump to his radical base. But I guess in his eyes, fuck em. He got in, gave the treatlers their treats, and now he has a new lib base that can propel his political career.
>>2872088>He will go on a rant in a county commissioner's meeting about why the term "black hole" (the interstellar phenomenon) is racist.that rocks. i love to see a retardmaxxing master baiter exhibit their full potential offline
>>2872093like when did iran kill US soldiers before America attacked lol
>>2872098>Now he's going to be made to look like a chump to his radical base. I sincerely doubt that and I also doubt how radical his base is. They aren't a bunch of Maoists quoting the little red book, they're working class New Yorkers.
Even if he does absolutely
nothing while vaguely saying he's "looking into arresting Bibi" that's still gonna put him leagues ahead of the typical democrat who says shit like "well we're getting Israel in a tight bear hug and saying 'its okay to be hurt'" or "Israel is our friend, and sometimes helping a friend means telling them when to stop".
Literally its just free praise for him.
>>2872019
Jobless behavior
>>2872100Well they blame them for all the "Iranian-backed" militias in Iraq who've been killing Americans here and there for the last decade or two.
>>2872073She should have been my housewife instead of a CIA agent.
>>2872101Young antizionist radical leftists were definitely vital to the success of his campaign. But as I said, now that he's in and his name is known among the wider populous, he doesn't need them anymore. He has a new base that will fuel his political career.
>>2872100they blame the Beirut marine barracks bombing on Iran, which was probably done by the precursors of hezbollah. It's a very tenuous connection but enough for the media to shill. It's funny because the terroristic United States killed the same amount of Iranian CIVILIANS when they shot down that commercial flight like two years later and said, "oopsies we thought it was a F-14, no we'll never apologize btw, XD".
>>2872115They definitely played a huge role doing the groundwork however I think even among "antizionist radical leftists" we need to understand that leftypol is pretty much the maximalist position on here. The "centrist" antizionist will say something like, "Well I believe in a two-state solution" but when asked about whether Israel has a right to exist, the maximalist position is basically: "No."
So while maximalists might see Mamdani being politically unable to arrest Netanyahu as a betrayal or broken promise, I think the fact that he's still insisting he's "looking into it" is going to go over well even with the antizionist portions of his base.
>>2872101The J street Democrats should be the ones pushed on this. Shouldn't they be overjoyed if Mamdani arrests Bibi? Their whole message is that the problem with Israel is Bibi; he's the whole reason they've gone in a radical direction and it will all be back to normal in a few years under a sensible prime minister. Sending Bibi to the ICC would be perfect, right?
>>2872123Gives me Obama vibes, donโt trust him
>>2872129Oh no they'll lose their shit, lol.
See its important to have a scapegoat (Bibi) and a vague hope that things "get better" when he's "gone" but I think they're just allergic to action. Even if Bibi got arrested you'll get some bullshit like "Look, I dislike Bibi
buuuuuuuut arresting a foreign dignitary when he's visiting? This is dictator behavior from Mamdani."
>>2872131Ehhh, I'll vote fro president El-Sayed. I'm just asking for better Manchurian Candidates from the CIA.
>>2872123>>2872134>El-Sayed received a full-tuition scholarship to the University of Michigan Medical School, where he completed two years of medical school.[7] There he led a student medical mission to Peru and founded a student organization that raised money and coordinated community service for a local free clinic.[5] As a second-year medical student, he received a Rhodes Scholarship to attend Oriel College, Oxford, where he completed a PhD in public health in 2011.[8][9] At Oxford, he earned a full blue as captain of the men's lacrosse team.[10] In 2014, he completed a Doctor of Medicine (M.D.) degree at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons and was funded by a Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans and the Medical Scientist Training Program.[11][12] El-Sayed did not pursue a medical license, and instead went into public health epidemiology work.[13]Rhodes Scholar? Probably definitely a CIA agent.
>>2872137Five bucks says the agency running his campaign is the same one behind Mamdani, Fetterman, and Platner. Another brown Hitlerite to dazzle the liberals
>>2872140Fetterman? Planter? brown?
>>2872140Yupp, you called it.
>Abdul El-Sayed's U.S. Senate campaign uses the political consulting and advertising firm Fight Agency (founded by Democratic operatives Morris Katz and Rebecca Katz)What are they up to? What is the 5D chess here?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_El-Sayed#Russia>In March 2022, El-Sayed called the Russo-Ukrainian war "a war between democracy and autocracy, between self-government and fascism", condemning Russian president Vladimir Putin as an "authoritarian dictator".[71]
>In April 2025, El-Sayed said that U.S. military aid to Ukraine is different from aid to Israel, as the former is in accordance with several multinational organizations.[65] In September 2025, he said that military aid to Ukraine was about "enforcing the rules of the rules-based international order in accordance with our allies".[72] >>2872150ZING! Another darling of the western left vehemently supports Kievโs nazi bandit regime and the genocide of Russians! Democratic National Socialists of America not beating the allegations!
>>2872131I donโt trust any electoralist period, especially now with no workerโs parties existent, and a ever increasingly degenerating system teetering towards collapse.
>>2872158At least Haley Stevens isnโt a Banderite apologist
I think one of the weirder but truer parts is that thanks to Tik-Tok witches offing Chalrie Kirk, and the arrest of styxhammer666 for beating his wife, I think the the balance of power when it comes to sorcery has been less in chud's favor as of late. We all know of the appalachian satanic chud witch cults like order of angels and joys of satan but the new age tiktok witches discovered black magic and aren't wiccans anymore. While they are not as good at hexxing people as the chuds are, they can sometimes pull off some decent curses here and there. I'm not sure why there hasn't been anymore research into the potential use of magic on either side. MK Ultra seems like it stopped before it was getting good.
>>2872160So true ziosister. Glory to haley stevens, glory to aipac!
>>2872167Bad goyim! Stop noticing the cohencidences and line up to support our newest progressive Zionist: Shadalay Al-Arabia! Please ignore his explicit praise for the genocide of Russians and that his campaign is funded by Zionists, what are you some kind of TANKIE???
>>2872167>AIPACs strongest opponents are jewishnow this is what makes america great
Probability of a major DSA split this year?
>>2872167We talked about Fight Agency several times in previous threads, usually during the arguments about Zohran and Platner. It was pointed out Fight Agency was funded by Tom Steyer here:
>>2863807Damningly this same agency also backed John Fetterman.
To me they're kind of part of the sheepdogging industrial complex. The dems have learned from the Republicans that you need to run fake "populists" and fake "outsiders" to prevent actual revolutionary politics. So they've taken to backing reformists who look radical but can be controlled.
>>2872158For the moon never beams, without bringing me dreams
Of the beautiful State of Israel;
And the stars never rise, but I feel the bright eyes
Of the beautiful State of Israel;
And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
Of my darlingโmy darlingโmy life and my bride,
In her ethnostate there by the seaโ
In her apartheid state by the sounding sea.
>>2872173fight agency backed fetterman before zohran and platner. how is fight agency AIPAC's strongest opponent?
>>2872177bros whole personality changed after the stroke. even if it was their fault for picking him i dont expect home runs every time
>>2872173Fight Agency is backed by labor zionist J-Street which funds candidates like Ziohran to the tune of millions. Same genocide, just a more equitable distribution of treats
>>2872183>Israeli Ambassador to the US Yechiel Leiter on Monday branded J Street a โcancer within the Jewish community,โ taking issue with the dovish Mideast lobbyโs calls for restricting US aid to Israel over the latterโs treatment of the Palestinians.zionists hate j-street
>>2872175Yeah that's still leaving a lot unsaid. I guess I'll have to do the deep dive on this myself but I doubt I will be able to find much. Gemini is telling me they neither of them ever made any public statements on Israel.
It did find this one Jew related thing about Morris Katz:
>Katzโs Role and Stance: As a young Jewish political strategist, Morris Katz spearheaded the strategy to head off accusations of radicalism. Katz focused the campaign heavily on economic inequality and working-class issues while proactively brokering conversations between Mamdani and deeply skeptical Orthodox and secular Jewish leaders. Katzโs public strategy was to validate community concerns while defending a platform rooted in human rights and international law.https://x.com/RebeccaKKatzhttps://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/17/platner-is-finished-does-the-same-fate-await-the-out-of-state-consultants-who-recruited-him-01002652
>Morris Katz, the 27-year-old ad maker and strategist with Fight Agency who was being heralded as a wunderkind for having helped elect Zohran Mamdani mayor of New York City, was holding court with roughly two dozen prominent guests about what he cast as a repeatable solution for Democrats, according to a person who attended the dinner, granted anonymity to describe a private event.
>โWe found a model here to win over working-class voters,โ the attendee recalled Katz saying. Find โa guy that looks like heโs a union working-class guyโ and put him forward, Katz said, the attendee also recalled. >>2872183>Fight Agency is backed by labor zionist J-Street which funds candidates like Ziohran to the tune of millions.You keep repeating this but it's not true. Not to say they aren't all secretly in cahoots, but no your statement is factually incorrect. Like you guys keep saying about AIPAC tracker:
>Now do J-Street!But I already proved on here that AIPAC tracker counts J-Street as well.
https://www.trackaipac.com/candidatesDon't just repeat easily deboonked claims.
>>2872123Didn't he recently say he doesn't consider himself a socialist because he's a muslim or something? Amerikkkans really are religious cultists
>>2872190Track AIPAC is literally owned by J-Street and is directly subordinate to its Zionist agenda. Or did you forget Kat Aboogabooboo the pasty white โprogressiveโ โPalestinianโ with her heckin wholesome chungus Gen Z campaign, the one who shares 95% of foreign policy positions with the late Lindsey Graham?
>>2872198>Track AIPAC is literally owned by J-Street Proof?
>>2872196>Didn't he recently say he doesn't consider himself a socialist because he's a muslim or somethingNo it is called being a political opportunist.
>>2872123>MD>PhDThose are negatives nowadays and gives the impression of the establishment. The ideal candidate would be someone with no college education like Lula
>>2872134Mayor Pete will come into 2028 stating socialism is good and we must defeat the red fascism amd genocidal state of China and eliminate the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia in the name of socialism
>>2872206separate topic but i miss when we were talking about corporate donations in general and not just aipac. because now there are tons of candidates that don't take AIPAC money but do take corporate donations still. fucked up that the bar is so low now that to be considered "good" all you have to do is go to individual lobbyists instead of PACs. The general scrutiny of corporate and bourgeois donations to campaigns has been reduced to just going on TrackAIPAC and looking for whether they show up green or red. There's so much more to it than that. Platner for example didn't take donations from AIPAC but he did have AIPAC family members. What does that tell you?
>>2872218>tons of candidates that don't take AIPAC money but do take corporate donations still. Such as?
>>2872177>>2872209they are just an ad agency for progressive berniecrat type candidates. You can go watch their fetterman ad
https://www.fight.agency/#! it just talks about how he is unconventional and will take on washington cuz he's so ugly lol. Fetterman ran for Senate before october 7th, before the democratic party had a majority negative opinion of Israel. He had a shitty record on the issue at the time but nobody bothered attacking him over it that much, nowadays it's completely disqualifying of course.
>>2872219AOCIA, Ziohran, etc
>>2872224Zohran didn't take corporate money.
>>2872220>they are just an ad agency for progressive berniecrat type candidates. i already explained how they're funded by tom steyer, a billionaire that literally ran against bernie in the democrat primaries but then famously approached him after and tried to become his friend
within a few years of that we now see a bernie/steyer alliance through this fight agency thing, which just strikes me as more democrat sheepdogging. such a project is to prevent people from leaving the fold of the democratic party by getting them reinvested in candidates which look like outsiders but are ultimately easily controlled like fetterman
>>2872231Oh I see, was wondering about that lol
>>2872211>Mayor Pete will come into 2028 stating socialism is good and we must defeat the red fascism amd genocidal state of China and eliminate the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia in the name of socialismJust in time for Venezuela to have it's first free election where
the real movement headed by Delcy Rodriguez takes power and leads the Venezuelan Miracle despite all the ultras who are actually feds themselves, saying there was a coup in Venezuela. THey are just envious of all the economic development that comes with being realistic and playing your cards right.
Also in time for Maduro to be hanged in Times Square for being a reactionary, under the watch of the NY Red Guards.
>>2872224why do you jump in a conversation and answer a question that was asked to me with an answer that isn't even correct? are you trying to make me look stupid? it didn't work.
>>2872219Just picking someone at random. Mai Vang.
It is trivially easy to go on trackAIPAC and look at their "endorsements" they are always
- democrats
- took no AIPAC donations
- nevertheless took handsome donations from individual bourgeoisie
- also took donations from other corpo PACs
All you have to do is go on FEC.gov and cross reference someone who shows up as "good" on TrackAIPAC with the FEC's donation filings.
The moral of the story here is that 0 donations from AIPAC is good, but it's not good enough. You have to check out their other donations.
>>2872230I'm also of the opinion that they don't have much of a serious commitment to leftist politics and are just following along with whatever the progressive base of the democrats is currently excited about. It's not a "project" though, they just make political ads? This would suggest that their are "real" candidates that they are distracting from but they don't even make negative ads?
>>2872239https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/matsui-campaign-attacks-vang-over-000000701.html
>Rep. Doris Matsui's campaign, funded for years by corporate donations, is criticizing Sacramento Councilmember Mai Vang for previously taking small amounts of corporate money before pledging to reject such contributions in her congressional race.
>The criticism is the latest in a series of jabs exchanged between the two campaigns as the primary election nears. Vang is attempting to unseat Matsui in California's 7th Congressional District, which includes Sacramento's downtown core. Matsui has held the seat for more than 20 years with little serious opposition.
>In a news release this week, Matsui's campaign highlighted that Vang accepted tens of thousands of dollars in corporate donations during her city council campaigns. Vang has repeatedly vowed not to accept money from corporate political action committees in her congressional bid, framing it as a key distinction between herself and Matsui.
>Most of Vang's past corporate donations came from small Sacramento-area businesses, according to The Ballot Book, a California campaign finance database. Other contributions included $400 from Pacific Gas & Electric and about $8,000 from local casinos.
>"For a candidate purporting to be a 'grassroots' champion, this is hypocrisy at its worst," said Roger Salazar, a campaign strategist for Matsui.
>Vang, who was not made available for an interview, sent a written statement in response to Matsui campaign's criticism. She called the scrutiny an attempt to "change the subject" from news earlier this week that Matsui's website had elevated their "MAGA Republican" opponent โ Sac State student Zachariah Wooden.
>Vang also cited Matsui's history of accepting from corporate PACs. Matsui has accepted hundreds of thousands of dollars from corporate PACs during the current election cycle, according to the Federal Election Commission website.
>In her statement, Vang said she previously redirected campaign contributions to scholarships for high school students in her district. Vang's campaign did not respond when asked how much of the contributions went to the scholarship fund.
>"I know where my support has gone," Vang said. "Can Congresswoman Matsui say the same? Voters are ready for a new generation of leadership. After 21 years of corporate-funded politics, Sacramento can clearly see what this corrupt system produces." trump is laying the groundwork to label DSA a terrorist organization like he did to antifa btw
>>2872209>>2872182'changed'
this shit was before he was elected, he defended his actions inmediately, but the backlash was so intense for the constituency he was working with, he had to issue a public apology. people knew about it. he never apologized to the black man jogging he held at gunpoint because fetterman, mayor of Braddock, Pennsylvania at the time, believed the black guy was
*check notes*
a criminal.
because of course, you see a black running or jogging, they must be leaving a crime scene.
he never changed. he was that way. he really wants Pennsylvanians to have a republican senator, or a republican mayor.
>>2872243"b but we did socialism legally!!"
>>2872242it is entirely possible to recognize someone as the "lesser evil" and still criticize them for taking PAC donations. if you noticed I didn't say or imply that you should "vote for the other person". This is the problem with the team sports mindset in US politics.
>>2872244yeah I had heard he sucked before getting elected by I took the easier to research line of attack. Thank you for bringing up that incident which I was not aware of
>>2872254Well no it's not, because if I say that I'd rather vote for the lesser evil then I'm sabotaging the chances of them to win. It is my duty as a voter to misrepresent their agenda, to be a PR agent for the candidate I want to win.
To lie and cheat and join every psyop… for good.
>>2872250How is the average Amerikkkan taking this stuff by the way besides blaming Chynah as a default because they're all reactionary
>>2872245better for the legalists to be discredited sooner rather than later
>>2872260What illegal stuff do you want to do? Doing nothing isn't illegal either.
>>2872250that's actually kinda true
SPR Oct 2020: 640,847 barrels
SPR Oct 2023: 351,724 barrels
thank you JDPON joe biden for depleting the fuel reserve of the amerikkkan empire
(was this for Ukraine or something? idk)
>>2872239Abdul VERY frequently says he does not take corporate pac money, it's like the main thing he attacks Stevens over. Until there is campaign finance reform candidates are going to have to take donations.
>>2872259the average american doesn't even know what the strategic petroleum reserve is. as for fox news boomers they kind of get mad about shit and learn about it at the same time. so if the news says "biden drained our SPR" they go "i don't know what that is but fuck joe brandon"
>>2872263Uhhh you don't remember Covid?
>>2872264> Until there is campaign finance reform candidates are going to have to take donations.there is never going to be campaign finance reform. campaign finance has only gotten worse since citizens united passed. When are you going to give up on reformism? Why would a candidate who takes corporate donations fight to end corporate donations?
>>2872262>What illegal stuff do you want to do?once its criminalized I'm joining a DSA cell
>>2872266Why would covid drain SPR? sorry if this is a stupid question. didn't fuel consumption go down during the pandemic?
>>2872263How badly would it fuck their economy if they just started demanding petro companies keep a higher percentage of oil inside Amerikkka instead of selling it all?
>>2872274pol has hated trump for a while now but I remember back in 2015 when he came down the golden escalator and called mexicans rapists and they called him "Zyklon Don"
>>2872270Yeah I guess you're right, the big drop off is pretty much all Ukraine. My bad.
>>2872274>netanyahu pissed his pants so bad he asked trump for public assurancezohran for president
>>2872274>52000 people dead>No evidence of such a large number of corpses piling the street anywhere despite that being very useful propaganda for Amerikkka and PissraelHmmmm
>>2872279Almost gonna guess they'll do a black book of communism shtick and claim every person killed in American/Israeli bombings was "murdered by the Iranian regime."
>>2872267well it wouldn't affect him really
>>2872267where are the corporate donations? That candidate that you showed takes money from Justice Democrats Pac which is explicitly an anti-corporate-pac-money Pac. Working Families Party PAC, Unions, are you saying that corporations are secretly funding these and that's why they are corporate money?
>>2872281They already say that.
>>2872279>>2872279>we had to blow up iranian schools, hospitals, dams, power plants, enrichment facilities, and civilian population centers to punish them for suppressing CIA backed proteststhe average mouthbreathing chud actually believes this btw
>>2872263HAH. the shit is insane.
if biden reduced by half the number of days of supply for US crude oil, trump reduced it by half again. with key signs that is going down more and more.
but fox news can't blame the current state on biden lmao.
if biden government never installed equipment prolly it had to do with the fact that they weren't seeing a rise in the SPR any time soon.
>>2872266no, the reduciton during biden wasn't covid. was the Ukr-Rus war.
>>2872285>powerpacplus>no dems left behindsigh… reformists want me to clap for this
>>2872288>The giant salt caves the US Government uses to store oil are now only around 19MM barrels away from estimated minimum operating levels. If the amount goes below a certain level the caves risk collapsing on themselves.inshallah it will collapse entirely
>>2872288>>2872292ben norton said 3 days ago that there's 4 more weeks until the supply collapses globally including in US allies like Japan if the war drags on. and trump just restarted the war because he didn't accept the MOU that he claimed to accept 2 weeks ago
>>2872294and people thought the 70s oil crises were bad
>>2872295>>2872294>>2872292They can just print more money and buy more oil.
>>2872296>but money printer go brrrnot without long term consequences like even more rapid inflation and collapse of the petrodollar system.
>>2872297Not if we transfer to the solar dollar and the wind dollar, pour everything into weather manipulation so weโre the only source of renewables
>>2872296>buy more oilto fucking who.
lmao.
it's precisely because there are no more suppliers left that the SPR is going down, but just to keep oil/gas(oline) prices down. something that would taint the whole image of trump in this 'peace candidate' term.
the only thing that trump can do really in short term is, lift all sanction on Russian oil, stop drone procurements to ukraine.
even so, I don't think he will see during this term something below 150$ once the SPR is finished.
>>2872296Oil is fungible so they'd be paying ludicrous amounts of money for a commodity already being phased out by solar panels. They're fucked anon
>>2872292>>2872294>>2872295>>2872296>>2872301>>2872305the end of an era is coming soon.
the us ruling elites believed they didn't have to sit down and negotiate.
let's see.
>>2872296US allies are draining their reserves too. Watch the video in the OP.
>>2872310isn't fracking causing earthquakes where they used to never happen? funny what the US will do to its own future to secure a short term lead in a race to the bottom.
>>2872311episdeo 29099023492309 of being ruled by bloodthirsty senile retards
>>2872311>Canada has generally stopped performing controlled burns, which help reduce the risk of larger and more dangerous fires.[40][41] It is difficult to get permission for controlled burns, especially for Indigenous groups who have historically performed them and are disproportionately affected by wildfires.[42][43] Canada lacks a national firefighting service, and local resources are stretched thin due to budget cutsthe tariffs are dumb but these are simple things Canada definitely needs to fix
>>2872314Yeah, start researching how Oklahoma has been completely devastated by the consequences of fracking. Can't imagine, outside the few on the rez's there, why anyone would want to live in that ruined state.
https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/trump-could-tap-oil-under-230000926.htmlTrump Could Tap Oil under U.S. Military Bases to Top Strategic Reserve
>The Trump Administration is looking for innovative ways to tap more crude from federal lands as the U.S. Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) is being depleted again by emergency stock releases amid the global supply shock from the Iran war.
>One of these creative new ways to refill the SPR could be the potential tapping of oil from land at U.S. military bases or other sites of the Department of War, a source with knowledge of private information told Bloomberg this week.
>At this year's SPR releases, the U.S. Administration has arranged to replace more than 172 million barrels with about 200 million barrels within the next year, 20% more barrels than will be drawn down.
>Apart from arranging the stocks release as an exchange, in which companies should eventually return the crude with interest, the Trump Administration is considering creative ways of filling the SPR, including potentially with crude drilled from U.S. military sites.
>The advantage for the Administration is that it will own the crude without having to purchase it from private companies.
>"We will see some creative things," the official added, noting that the Trump Administration is looking "to do pragmatic things" with federal energy resources. According to the Energy Secretary, the U.S. needs "creative ways" to refill the reserve.
<Even if the Administration decides to drill for oil at military bases, any production wouldn't impact the SPR and the high energy prices in the short term. >>2872319Perhaps, but it's certainly not being helped by anthropocentric climate change making shit hotter every year
why dont the mutts go to war with the chinese already it be so epic
>>2872319Yeah but our government doesn't want to spend any money or stop relying so heavily on oil. So they're right that we're fucking the pooch on this but it's obviously because we're governed by neoliberal ghouls, not because we're too far left lmao.
>>2872325For what exactly? Amerikkka is in its own century of humiliation right now and whatever happens only benefits the chinese.
>>2872330in US politics neoliberals are considered too far left
>>2872314>fracking causing earthquakes where they used to never happenyes. correct. and also contaminate the water sources. the 'flaming tap water' even had a parody in the simpsons.
> funny what the US will do to its own future to secure a short term lead in a race to the bottom.also correct.
>>2872333nope, they aren't. all republicans are de-regulation, anti-regulation, etc.
>>2872354republicans favor pro-monopolistic and protectionistic regulation
>>2872358Why were they the ones fighting tooth and nail for the TransCanada Keystone XL pipeline then?
>>2872354>nope, they aren'tthey are. democrats are now basically reaganites and republicans say that is too far left.
>>2872354>all republicans are de-regulation, anti-regulation, etc.>>2872358>republicans favor pro-monopolistic and protectionistic regulationdepends on what industry we're talking about
>>2872279>No evidence of such a large number of corpses piling the street anywhereAI = actually Israel
https://xcancel.com/infolibnews/status/2046618147055173858< There's an Israeli influence operation called "Generative AI for Good" that creates AI "victims" of Iran to agitate for regime change.<They just held a conference last week in NYC.<Here's a short clip of one of the deepfake propaganda videos they released a few weeks ago.>>2872319>these are simple thingsradlib quoting wikipedia:
>>2872358also, bold to assume that monopolies come to life with regulations, with protectionism.
it's selective regulation, selective protectionism what the rethuglicans are all about.
the point stands.
>>2872367>theyre blanket deregulatory cause they said solol, lmao even
>>2872366>asking for a national fire department is radlibcanada is third world oppressed nation now, you are ultra for criticizing
>>2872369Ahhh I see, they are pro regulation because glownonympus said so.
>>2872364Look how her eyebrows match the glasses' frame. It is so they can look like they are permanently doing that smug eyebrow raise. ๐
>>2872366All the other imperialist nations have a national firefighting service, what's canadas excuse?
>>2872362>>2872364men often get really buff thinking women like it even though it mostly only impresses other dudes. I think this is womens' version of that. other women think it looks really cool but dudes are like "what is this clown shit"
>>2871963>>2872079>FBA will be found out to be an FBI psyopSo nationalism is just a FBI plot?
>>2872372They are against regulations that tell corporations how to internally run a business but are for regulations that keep those business propped up so they never fail. Essentially a republican wants deregulation on what chemicals a food company can add to their food but they want regulations to stop new competitors from coming in and taking market share.
>>2872385>They are against regulations that tell corporations how to internally run a business but are for regulations that keep those business propped up so they never fail.this is why I hate when people talk about "regulation" vs. "deregulation"
it's like "what kind"
>>2872385>So nationalism is just a FBI plot?if you know anything about the FBA's they can't even define their own nation and just call others tethers and go through an entire mental gymnastics game to say they are not of African descent. It isn't even grassroots in the black community. Tariq Nasheed crashed out extremely hard because of IShowSpeed going to Africa and Black Americans being excited seeing Africa that he went on a likely sponsored trip to basically go to Africa and shit on it and have the psyop bots attempt to change the actual and normie position which is closer to Speed.
>>2872382Women do like buff guys tho. Lol. That's one of the funniest lies. It's like saying dudes don't like big tits and ass. Sure, I guess you van find outliers who prefer smaller tits and ass or someone who it makes no difference to them but it is a good general rule.
>>2872388I wanna see Tariq Nasheed and Dr Umar fight in the ring
>>2872382That's probably right. There's a Russian pop singer named Zivert who I'm fascinated by because she's just completely mask-off, one of her songs is about embracing egoism. You can spend three minutes watching her music video masterpiece about loving yourself than spending a lot of money at a psychotherapist. Her fans have to be women and gay guys and she looks like a Zoolander cyberpunk character.
>>2872390Women will like a good bicep but women do operate differently so what is a turn-on is a cute guy who is on the buffer side holding a cat or flowers or something like that. Also if he's rich, that's even better.
back to pol, mexibro
>>2872408it gets bigger when i pull on it
Gaming chuds have been eating good but film chuds are taking Ls after Ls. Weird vibe shift?
>>2872440Aren't gaming chuds losing their shit over GTA6 being woke or something
>>2872442Yeah but there is a lot of layoffs going around and they seem to be having a good time with it. The perception of victory seems to be more important than actually enforcing their cultural worldview because I barely see any chud games out still
>>2872291>>2872362>>2872378Think a good barometer for whether the Establishment actually supports a Democrat or not is whether you've got Black moderates coming out to call that Dem racist. Its kind of hard to tell with Talarico 'cause he gets so much glazing in the media from what I've seen.
Course it could just be Jasmine Crockett using what pull she has 'cause of a grudge.
>>2872405
4channers can't do anything besides project. sad!
>>2872443I think most of these chuds latched onto the Stellar Blade IP (and Palworld for some reason), so it isn't only Ls for them there
>>2872447Nah, that is why they are having a good time while film chuds are shitting themselves. I think this will not last very long however because if the news that the Harley Qeun and Poison Ivy swimsuits sales not being very good comes out, it is going to shit all over their narratives of games needing to pander to chuds and coomers.
>>2872430I prefer this over the pol compass. At least it has more nuance. I guess I fall into the new republican populists.
Sad it is the smallest group.
I also noticed how traditional political positions in the countries with actual cultures are small or fringe in settler colonial states. For example social conservatism + economic leftism makes sense in Iran, Warsaw Pact, China, but is never seen in the west. Anybody got any ideas why?
>>2872364>Look at me signal, aren't I just PROUD!?>I am just like you! A social outcast with fringe beliefs about shit nobody cares and a hundred mental illnessesThe intended audience can't just take off the costume and become a functional person in their society though. Their handicaps and quirks are real and they don't get none of the money the performer does to cushion the impact of branding themselves a weirdo in public. But hey, that's just fuel for the parasocial needs, if they can't find belonging outside of niche online spaces win/win.
IDK what level of shame is appropriate for a society or how to manage it. But I lean towards completely eliminating shame as a barrier to profit being detrimental.
>>2872454I mean Trump is literally in office, the vast majority of social media is pretty pro-chud from what I can tell, especially youtube and instagram and twitter. The fuck kind of "Anti-establishment" is this right?
>>2872445>Its kind of hard to tell with Talarico 'cause he gets so much glazing in the media from what I've seen.Talarico has national Dem establishment support. He's in a similar lane to Jon Ossoff in Georgia. People get all confused by this though. During the primary I would see Talarico getting glazed by neoliberal types and also self-described demsocs.
>Course it could just be Jasmine Crockett using what pull she has 'cause of a grudge.Texas black political machines / GOTV ops just want a cut of the money and if not they're like fuck you pay me. It's money. Dead presidents, with the exception of Alexander Hamilton.
https://www.texastribune.org/2026/07/20/texas-james-talarico-black-voters-town-hall-houston-2026-senate/ >>2872457Probably gen z made this, but boomers wrote the interpretation. I agree "loyal right" makes absolutely no sense in the current context.
>>2872459>Jon Ossoff libs are saying this guy has the sauce. what's your read
>>2872466>>2872468Am I supposed to know about who she is? What is notable?
>The Trump administrationโs new State Department report on Cuba is a dangerous attempt to criminalize peace activism and revive Cold War fearmongering.
>Instead of acknowledging the devastating impact of the U.S. blockade, which has contributed to shortages of food, medicine, fuel, and electricity, it smears organizations like CODEPINK, the National Lawyers Guild, the Democratic Socialists of America, and Pastors for Peace simply for opposing U.S. policy.
>For more than 60 years, the blockade has caused immense suffering while failing to achieve its stated goals. The answer isnโt more intimidation, sanctions, or threats, itโs diplomacy, solidarity, and an end to the blockade.
>>2872470Amerikkkans cheer, cry and shit their diapers whenever all the blame gets put onto Netanyahu and not their own government and all the jewish supremacist colonizers
>>2872469Minority DSA candidate clinching the governorship in a swing state in the Rust Belt is a huge deal and arguably more impactful than Zohran winning NYC.
>>2872477>Lol he says the ghost of Henry Ford has possessed El-Sayed since Detroit MichiganThis is the funniest shit ever.
>>2872463Raphael Warnock is even more popular than him. The two Georgia Senators were winning while the governor race were being won by Republicans.
>>2872445DNC is backing Talarico fully it is just that Jasmine Crockett is being a very bad sore loser and pretty much sabotaging the entire campaign by dogwhistling that Talarico is a sexist and a racist. It is ironically killing Talarico because Texas Dems NEED the black vote to secure the win, so Talarico can't just say fuck Jasmine because it will just have Jasmine say she proved that Talarico is racist and literally have a back and forth over the primary race. Republicans are loving it right now because Crockett pretty much poisoned Talarico's campaign and even if she apologizes it is alrrady ingrained that Talarico is racist. The dems were getting a good win to end up flopping
>>2872477I think something that's been really pissing me off about all this is that, like, objectively I can look at what my Trans friends are going through, my Hispanic friends, my Muslim friends, and see they've got it 10 times worse; but in the midst of the government trying to deport anyone who attended a Pro-Palestine protest I'm supposed to believe there's just this horrible rise in Antisemitism that's making everything so bad and scary for Jewish people.
Nothing on Jewish people as a whole, but I can look at people facing, like, way worse struggles.
>>2872471it seems to me that trumpedo, now facing that he can't get Iran, and if Iran is making difficult to the US regime army to open up a third big front, because the US army would spread too thin, and since he can't get Cuba, he want to take the opportunity to take parties, organizations and similar out of the picture with excuse of Cuba.
>>2872362Its true there's an entire industry built around politics. However its first comes first serve, its not like young Sheldon is keeping them out. All these orgs are just circulating money to endlessly run campaigns. Benjamin button would love to get tapped in to their machine but they rather take a lost and bet on the next race.
>>2872471>Instead of acknowledging the devastating impact of the U.S. blockade, which has contributed to shortages of food, medicine, fuel, and electricitywhy would they do that? the entire purpose of blockades and sanctions is to sabotage socialist countries so you can then run a victory lap saying "communism when no food." The cruelty is the point. Slash their tires then smear them as bad drivers.
>>2872470>They want us to invest in education, childcare, not in the Netanyahu governmentstupid bernie. doesn't he realize that investing in education and childcare requires bombing other countries?
>>2872472finally an ACTUAL communist like me
>>2872489I was literally just thinking about this. All the hysteria about the "rise of antisemitism" in the most philosemitic country probably to ever exist, like all of a sudden there is going to be a race-war break out, but just against the Jews. Obviously there is so much more anti-Muslim rhetoric at all levels than anything remotely "antisemitic." What is also I think in general, African Americans are by far the single most hated group, but nobody really acknowledges that, probably followed by Hispanics. Even "Nazi" havens like 4/pol/ the amount of posts that are anti-Black are way more numerous than any other. I think there are a lot of people who are more tolerant of anti-Black racism because even if they're not so openly that way, they'll be like "well maybe it's kinda justified…" because of Black association with crime and antisocial behavior. I guess same thing with Islam and perceived anti-feminist, male-chauvinist aspects of the religion.
>>2872505because trumpedo wants to forever secure florida. forever lock washington to their fanatical and radical gusanos and their second-to-best influential lobby/PAC. that also locks in washington to the latin-america right-wing movements and parties.
>>2872390yeah there's buff and then there's "freaky buff"
there's feminine glasses and then there's "SJW pointy glasses"
that was anons point
>>2872495Imo they're already shaken by DSA socdems beating establishment DNC types, and they're anticipating unrest due to the shortages caused by the Iran war. They're trying to nip things in the bud before the recession really hits.
>>2872514<why would they acknowledge the blockade's devastating effects>because trumpedo wants to forever secure florida.why would acknowledging the devastating impact of the U.S. blockade, which has contributed to shortages of food, medicine, fuel, and electricity, help trumpthuglicans secure florida? if anything the gusano lobby agrees with the general principle of using the blockade to sabotage the cuban economy and then blaming the failures of that economy on socialism. They want to RETVRN to the batista days of cuba being epstein island meets las vegas for the italian mafia.
>>2872522they are both turning high schoolers that would've become hitler youth into commies instead
>>2872516He didn't say freaky buff. I don't know if there is any level of glasses that looks particularly attractive so I don't see the connection. INB4 blah blah I like the librarian look whatever. Just go look at pictures of models or women on instagram or actresses and whatever and tell me how many are wearing glasses at all. It's not a look that is generally considered attractive unlike being buff is.
>>2872528well think about it this way, most guys like tits and ass but they dont necessarily like brazilian butt lift and implants that look like basketballs
>>2872510To be honest, I'm going to court controversy here, but I think if we're judging racism on just like purely ambient rhetoric, the stuff I've seen thrown at Muslims might genuinely be the most vile, hateful shit I've ever seen. Like even the /pol/tier racial tirades about Black people is kind of… casual I guess? At least in terms of like, it's vile and reprehensible, but with Muslims its existential.
That's what kind of throws me for a loop, to me it genuinely seems like the loudest voices of Muslim hatred aren't just pushing for the acceptance of their bigotry or racial resentment, but outright extermination. There's contempt and hatred for Black America, a lot of it, but for Muslims in particular it seems to more frequently escalate to the level of: "we need a final solution to the Muslim problem".
I'm going to be totally honest here: I genuinely worry about the prospect of some "Muslim Genocide" in the U.S., I think trans people are at risk too, of course, but I think it seems like there are enough people in high ranking positions in government and media that just want to kill all Muslims.
>>2872520I mean, going forward with attacking Cuba/Socialists/SocDems/Grassroot organizations.
>>2872535chapo literally coined the treatler shit to describe guys like podhoretz only for it to grow wildly out of control and turn into a twitter maoist shibboleth for the golden billionoids
>>2872534>To be honest, I'm going to court controversy here,I don't see how anything you said would be courting controversy.
I mean, TND, total uyghur death, is a popular slogan of there's but I think you have a point is more potential for pogroms with Muslims, Blacks are more considered more of as a problem to be dealt with as it already has been, discrimination and imprisonment. Blacks are like a "problem" for them that's more or less in stasis. But yeah the Christians will really lose there shit if Muslims get more visibility in the US about the Sharia Law and whatever. Greg Abbot just pulled the plug on some Muslims renting out a water park for a private Eid celebration because of the "controversy," when this water park already rents out for private events.
>amy goodmanit's so funny. she tried to cozy so hard with the neolib establishment, and still, she gets thrown under the bus.
she never invited again Norman Finkelstein again because Fink told her that between them two, after she accused Fink of being privileged, she's the privileged kid.
and she never again invited Boots Riley after he corrected amy for not including 'communist' in the list of things he is.
link to rubio's 'Cuba report' 446MB.
https://www.kenklippenstein.com/api/v1/file/7c2ba313-ca30-47b2-a67b-8f8d1f519eed.pdfit's a fucking PDF link, don't 'Im not clicking that shit' on me.
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>>2872555>>2872489I was saying this a couple threads ago, I can point to hundreds of laws that right now exist that cut away at freedoms and rights; some of my freedoms and rights. There are ZERO; zero laws that specifically target jews, and there surely never will be unless like fuentes becomes president. And thats not to downplay that a bunch of that stuff did exist in the recent past, but lets be objective here.
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