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>>2878863Ok I guess I'll take your "don't quote me on this word" I remember the Euros were weary of transferring the stolen assets to Ukraine, and then America was going to underwrite them for it so they could sneakily pass another aid package to Ukraine. But what Ukraine and Europe seem to think is reasonable is reparations. I don't believe Russia will ever pay such a thing but I doubt Europe and Russia will ever stop demanding it.
>But it doesn't matter (it almost never has). Another advantage of lifting sanctions is that you can threaten to… do it again (see Iran).Kind of an interesting point. But you see that sanctions are only ever lifted once they believe that they have the targeted country under their yoke otherwise. How will Russia convince the West of this?
But I see you won't touch how this whole Ukraine-Russia war is the justification to "ReArm Europe" which is a longstanding project that precedes the current war. This is fucking gold for them. If there is no Russian boogeyman than who will the Euros be building the weapons to use against?
>>2878802you could probably geolocate this
You know, talking about the Soviets, the Soviets were never ever engaged with America in a conflict like this.
I've heard some people say about the Russian strategy was "wait for Trump to be in office." and now he's shifting to getting gung-ho behind Ukraine. I don't think the next guy or gal will be any better at all. The best you could say is Trump is a small reprieve. I'm pretty sure the next president and congress will probably invest even more into this war. I don't know if the Ukrainians will have the manpower but they will try and find the last Ukrainian no doubt.
>>2878866I feel like this makes life… shittier. But I don't see this affecting military logistics much. But I haven't visited around there, or know people living in the area so I don't know. A much bigger issue to me seems to be FPV drones targeting fuel and supply trucks directly, forcing everything to move in convoys. Aside from targeting trucks themselves.
I think people underestimate how far a truck can travel on one tank of gas. And Dnipro-Kharkiv is only ~217 km or so.
>>2878864>If there is no Russian boogeyman than who will the Euros be building the weapons to use against?You can have both at the same time. I don't think the Kremlin has to capitulate for this, only for any 'deal' to be mutually profitable once the dust has settled.
>>2878872>You can have both at the same time. I don't think the Kremlin has to capitulate for this, only for any 'deal' to be mutually profitable once the dust has settled.Dust ain't going to settle dood. Both Russia and Ukraine/Their Western-Backers can't reach agreeable terms and they won't. Russia can't capitulate and neither can day. I predict this war will continue for another few decades.
>>2878871>last Ukrainian no doubtno doubt:
https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/zelenskyy-sets-air-defense-and-mobilization-priorities-for-ukraines-new-defense-leadership-21021zelya:
>Both Drapatyi and Khmara will have to fulfill the main task after this long, exhausting war for everyone. The issues of closing the skies, the TCCs, and giving mobilization a normal face—if I can put it that way—all of this will have to be done together, in alliance, until the war ends. Unfortunately, such an alliance did not exist before.he's talking out of his ass, but the
mobilisation (of ukrainians) part is pretty dark, given that the 'normal face' so far has been:
>>2878843 things like that, a normal face.
>>2878875I don't know dawg, I think if you guys take Kyiv or whatever, I guess you can force capitulation, but I don't know what these Euros and Americans might do. I don't see any other scenario other than taking the whole country and forcing capitulation. These Euros will probably jump in the fight at a certain point.
>>2878871November is gonna be interesting. From what I understand it is technically feasible for congress to allocate aid to Ukraine, even if Trump disagrees?
>I don't know if the Ukrainians will have the manpower but they will try and find the last Ukrainian no doubt.I'm skeptical at this point that there's really 1000 dying on both sides every day or so. I think there is attrition due to contracts running out and people quitting (and I've met people on the Ukrainian side who quit for those reasons). But it's different from actually losing a 1000 a day due to casualties or fatalities. Assault units aside.
But there's still plenty of money for mercenaries on both sides. For a couple of billion $ per annum you can hire hundreds of thousands of mercenaries to keep the show running for years.
>But Thrillpilled, why then are they (stealth) mobilizing/busifying people?I think there's still issues finding enough foreigners, even if there is money to hire them. Add to the fact mercenary recruitment is illegal in many places. But there's not much in the way of reliable data other than Bankova admitting there's like ~2 million(!) draft dodgers and tens of thousands (I think I read up to ~200,000, again don't quote me on that) of deserters in Ukraine.
Not that it seems to make any difference in how the front line is moving however.
I think nuclear arms are a joke because America is serious and will actually press the Armageddon button. If they didn't anyone who uses them automatically has the mark of shame forever such as America has even after they killed so many more civilians through firebombing. Russia seems incapable of handling Ukraine, can they handle Ukraine+Poland, + the entire NATO alliance? The situation is really kind of dire.
>>2878880They don't have to do "mercenaries" if they find an ally to send them troops like North Korea.
and this whole "mercenary" question. Maybe if Russia wasn't such an optics cuck and trying to play the high ground about "muh international law" like the Euro and American based institutions give a fuck about such a thing could've fielded way more mercenaries than Ukraine.
Ok, enough about me positing my ideas let us roundtable this:
How does everyone here see this war ending and by what date?
>>2878885Year and a half from now when the internal unrest gets too bad to handle for either Ukraine or Russia
>>2878886>eitherNo, not an answer.
>>2878887Then why the fuck are you asking if you know the answer?
>>2878888I didn't say I have the answer. Any answer I have is an opinion. I'm asking for yours. You said one or the other capitulates. "Whoah really? One side or the other will be defeated? Who could have seen this coming?!?" I'm saying you need to pick one or the other to be a meaningful answer.
>>2878889>>2878885I'll put my own answer out there first which is that I believe this conflict will go on for decades probably.
>>2878879>I guess you can force capitulationthey can squeak and screech, if Russia says
until this place we go, and ukraine decides to be belligerent afterwards, then it doesn't matter. they may want to send drones. they will never have the same capabilities of glide bombs, etc. as Russia does. that alone it's the whack on the head they could need. the one they'll ever need.
>but I don't know what these Euros and Americans might do.with what men?
zelya himself in this interview, I watched completely (but you can skip to 'politics in ukraine')
https://youtu.be/-HypRv9GHuI?t=1171it's precisely what zelya lays down in the interview about needing people. the
wunderwaffen robot chivalry marching toward Crimea is a fantasy he's acknowledging here, and why fedorov is not coming back (weaselly enough, he doesn't lay a rotund no, because of course, that's how zelya is). in any case, that he really wanted to play dumb with fedorov as a possible solution for the mobilization problem ukraine has, is beyond me the reason why. and of course, comes the blame for the gradual losses in different areas:
the two men (agent S, agent F) weren't communicating or deciding what's best uh-huh.
and as Pointed out in the last thread when the new rarted papiez said that an army of mercenaries could work here, Machiavelli wrote about that in The Prince. and it's a terrible, TERRIBLE, VERY TERRIBLE idea. specially with how corrupt ukraine is, lmao.
>>2878885it'll end under the terms of Russia. when? when they decide what those terms for ending the war are, but very likely, achieving most of their goals. or very close in achieving most of their goals.
>>2878894I thought such things maybe, then Russia held referendums about admitting territories they have now lost like Kherson. They fucked up so bad. So bad. So what is Russia going to admit? The Kherson referendum was all a joke?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_annexation_referendums_in_Russian-occupied_Ukraine#Kherson_OblastIs Ukraine going to let any of these territories go in writing? I don't see this war coming to any terms at all. Korea has never come to any terms either.
>>2878895Two or three threads ago you can find a press release of Putin talking about the need of taking Novorossiya. And more recently he came out with an anecdote of a soldier getting a medal of hero, for his service, who whispered to Putin 'we will win, but we want to be bolder' and makes the rhetorical question to the public 'do you want to be bolder' and all the public present there cheered and answered yes.
If Novorossiya is the next phase, then Kherson will return. But won't be as relevant as before tbh.
On the DPRK/South Korea similarity well, that's an end.
>>2878908>Two or three threads ago you can find a press release of Putin talking about the need of taking Novorssiya. I tuned out of t his thread tbh.
>And more recently he came out with an anecdote of a soldier getting a medal of hero, for his service, who whispered to Putin 'we will win, but we want to be bolder' and makes the rhetorical question to the public 'do you want to be bolder' and all the public present there cheered and answered yesok
>If Novorossiya is the next phase, then Kherson will return. But won't be as relevant as before tbh.ok.
>On the DPRK/South Korea similarity well, that's an end.Seems that way.
>>2878885it will never end, there will always be a russia
>>2877743>The real question I have is why the West is so confident that Russia won't just flip the table, tell everyone to fuck off, and nuke somethingBecause nukes don't exist. That was long considered a fringe conspiracy, but isn't it just so fascinating how you never hear about them outside of Hollywood movies or videogames? The West openly talks about fighting Russia and China. But in the Cold War kayfabe that'd be considered insane because they have nukes! You CAN'T attack nuclear powers! That's what everyone used to say. Seems like no one wants to keep up the pretense anymore.
>>2878867>it's americans fault nowthe biggest obstacle to reconciliation is russians inability to take responsibility for going ooga booga thb
>>2879040>there will always be a russiaIt takes a lot to destroy a nation, but nations are historically constituted things, not eternal supra-historical things that have always existed or will always exist.
>>2879075before russians there were mongols before mongols there were huns and so on and so on
>>2879136Conscript all of them then, the chauvinists should be first in line to the trenches I say
>>2879165don't worry, I've been told that's not a game-changing operation civilians can cope as long, ctrl+f,:
>But I don't see this affecting military logistics much >>2879056Who is going to make them? Actually I bet Cucktin would accept a deal where he only keeps Crimea even, but that is too far for the Ukies and their western patrons.
>>2879056Ukraine can surrender any time
>>2879257>>2879243they are seriously concerned that it's not only Russia sending them cruise and ballistic missiles.
ukranian TG channel.
>>2879136>Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg!?Lel
>>2879243>Our goal is to counter Russian aggression>Russia bears full responsibility for all provocations and casualties>I emphasized the necessity to refrain from any escalatory steps, as well as to end any support for Russia's war against Ukraine>>2879257>the attack on an Iranian ship was unintentional>there must be restitution for lossesDoesn't sound like an apology or both sides fully backing down, but doesn't sound like fullblown escalation either. Makes me wonder what was actually said, and what was discussed at the White House.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2081343198836707468[🇨🇳🇪🇺 EU imposed sanctions on 14 Chinese & Hong Kong firms over the trade with 🇷🇺Russia 👉 in response, China blacklisted 14 EU companies & institutions
I‼️ the answer came within 24 hours — TOTAL BAN on exporting Chinese-origin dual-use goods, tech & rare earth materials
>The ban creates major supply chain problems that directly slow down production and delivery of weapons, vehicles & tech for Ukraine🇺🇦 Targeted firms:
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🇩🇪 Sindlhauser Materials GmbH (High-tech manufacturing supplier);
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🇵🇱 Vigo Photonics S.A. (High-tech manufacturer of advanced infrared detectors);
🇵🇱 Wrocław University of Science & Technology (its academic research infrastructure feeds dual-use technologies directly into EU military & aerospace defense production lines);
🇨🇿 Tatra Trucks (Automotive heavy manufacturer specialized in military-grade trucks);
🇳🇱 Royal IHC (Maritime engineering & shipbuilding company);
🇧🇬 Opticoelectron Group AD (High-tech manufacturer for defense industry);
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https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/establishment-gloats-over-ukraines
>The current geopolitical cue revolves around Ukraine’s putative pivot from strikes on Russia’s refineries to an all-out war against “Russia’s Amazon”:
<After months of escalating attacks on oil depots and refineries, it has abruptly shifted targets, turning its sights to something more unexpected: warehouses and depots belonging to Wildberries, a Russian retail giant often described as the country’s equivalent of Amazon.
>But the biggest bombshell is what they now openly admit to.
>The above Telegraph piece veritably gloats over the fact that these strikes are having a major effect on Russia’s civilian population and its perception of the conflict.
<But the strikes have another effect.
<Robert Brovdi, Ukraine’s drone chief, said the strikes were aimed at destroying the “illusion of a comfortable, well-fed peacetime life enjoyed by the obedient biomass of an aggressor country”.
<The damage is impossible to hide.
<They show that Russia is vulnerable.
>After only briefly and passingly mentioning that some “radios and military gear” are available on the Wildberries site, the authors quickly abandon that line of justification in favor of obsessively cataloguing the civilian toll the strikes are exacting:
<Encompassing almost 80 million active customers and some one million sellers, Wildberries accounts for 52 per cent of Russia’s e-commerce market – a market which is booming, having grown 28 per cent last year.
<The destruction of its warehouses has sent a shock wave through the small businesses selling goods through the site. Hundreds of people have posted videos online complaining that they had lost large inventories of goods and would not receive compensation from the company.
>So, it’s not the “military radios” they really care about, it’s the “shock waves” sent through small businesses the article authors are salivating over in the hopes that it will result in mass unrest against Putin. "The obedient biomass of an aggressor country" holy shit
>>2879243but ziggas told me ww3 started
>>2879425>but ziggas told me ww3 startedStarted a long time ago anon.
>>2879412>the obedient biomassChrist. Love Ukies complete inability to hide their fascist nonsense.
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