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>>2895032 >>2897388when dog whistles become air raid sirens
>>2897388im pretty confident Trump can't swim. he seems incapable of learning things. there is not a single photo of him swimming or riding a bike.
>>2897394would he float or sink?
>>2897388well, man, this is a complex situation. on hand hand, if trump doesn't jump to save the kid, the kid drowns and dies.
on the other hand, can you imagine trump nearby any kid that age? ok, for what it looks, trump only like female little kids, but still.
it's a hard choice here.
>>2897405>ok, for what it looks, trump only like female little kids, but still.didn't he give bill clinton a blowjob?
>>2897406yes this was confirmed
Breaking:
>AT&T cuts 40% of openAI and Anthropic usage. They are switching to Open Source models (i.e. Chinese models), with a cost saving of up to 56%, while seeing a decrease in quality of only 2%.
ooof.
nightmare for the AI companies.
howdy waffentwerps….
- the Democratic Party USA and Republican party USA are genocidal, imperialist, capitalist political parties
- 80-90% of the US adult population has voted at least once for a candidate from one of these parties
- if you collaborate or support these parties even once, you are a willing and gleeful collaborator in genocide, capitalism, and imperialism
- therefore 80-90% of the US population, regardless of class, are willing and gleeful collaborators in genocide, capitalism, and imperialism
- this is a scientific fact and cannot be proven wrong
- you cannot be redeemed, even through action, because once you are a collaborator, you are always a collaborator
- the best you can do is die and take as many of your fellow collaborators with you as you can
- but you will not do that because it is not in your treatlerite interests
- so instead you gossip like old women about the latest palace drama in the trump administration. he is the sin eater for you. but really he represents what you are: an imperialist, a pedophile, a liar, a capitalist, a willing and gleeful collaborator in genocide.
- you will scream and cry and piss and shit your pants, and cum, and make excuses, and call them "reasons"
- you will call me "felix" and say "factory status" even though I am not that schizo, I just realize that he is right but he is probably a mossad agent sent to shitcoat the correct opinion by pairing it with the stalking of the groceryfag
>>2897417how do they measure quality i wonder. 2%? what does that mean?
>>2897418>I just realize that he is right but he is probably a mossad agent Agreed with mossad award
>i'm not felixvid related
>>2897419https://www.pymnts.com/news/artificial-intelligence/2026/att-slashes-ai-costs-by-adopting-model-routers-and-open-source/unfortunately, the report isn't accesible for me because I don't use linkedin.
so I can't answer that question.
they are switching to Nvidiaโs Nemotron, Metaโs Llama and Googleโs Gemma.
>>2897375you will be melted by deregulation, all your taxes will be used to genocide third worlders, they will grow up wanting revenge against you, and your declining standard of living will be called treatlerism, and you will say "thank you sir"
reminder there is one planet, not three worlds
reminder climate change puts a time limit on ending captialism
reminder there is more than enough stuff for everyone to maintain a dignified standard of living, but the bourgeoisie destroy surplus commodities in order to raise prices and create artificial scarcity
reminder that we could actually maintain our standard of living and raise the standard of living of third worlders while reducing carbon emissions by simply distributing the social product to everyone who needs it instead of hoarding it until it rots in hope of a sale
>>2897448leftypolers don't want communism, they're just the left equivalent of soyteens who wanna lash out
>>2897452Their parents are evangelicals who home schooled them maybe that played a role. Maybe growing up in California also played a role.
fuck, turn on the news…
>>2897474fuuuuuuck, it happened, guys…
>>2897474oh fuck a news just flew over my house
>>2897482The US nuclear threat is fake though, theyโre all rusted and inoperable
>>2897513Los Alamos is their one nuclear weapon production facility and it's been plagued by problems for the past 20 years.
It's starting to dawn on me that the US isn't going to go out with a bang, but a whimper
>>2897542Itโs a capitalist mirror of the USSR and will break apart in a similar fashion, I canโt wait to get my throat slit by a Texas separatist militia
>>2897468>Liberal point of view. We are at an age where there is a vast ontological change. The collective is beginning. We are starting to experience things as a collective, a class, not individuals.>If you cannot put the proletariat before yourself you will never make it.you know I agree people should be willing to sacrifice for the greater good, but at the same time this is not a common sentiment among leftists except when they want you to sacrifice for their benefit. you never see people saying "put the community before yourself" when it comes to things like mental health or socializing or cultivating a positive atmosphere with the people around you. I was having a convo with a friend about this today so it's still fresh on my mind forgive me for the tangent but it's kinda sad how leftists will preach all about "mutual aid" and "community" and "common good" right up until someone says hi to them on the street and then suddenly they'll run to Twitter to complain about strangers talking to them. Or if a friend confides in them about having mental health issues or being lonely, depressed, etc they'll just say "bro that sucks you should go to therapy" and just completely dodge your feelings. People will talk about "making sacrifices for the people you love" or "preaching tolerance" and then the moment their parents or friends or someone close to them says something they disagree with they just pull out the zoomer silent treatment and hold a grudge for the rest of their life. So many fucking people have been socialized in a completely capitalist liberal mindset to treat human relationships purely in terms of "what do I get out of this?" and it's so fucking depressing. Makes me wish I had the kind of sense of community they have in third world countries, but I'm also self-aware that those communities also come with all their own problems. I'm just ultimately pretty wary of any leftist that preaches "communal living" or "mutual aid" these days because they're usually the same type that are extremely quick to create enemies over minor microaggressions.
This is a bit retarded to bring up here but I was recently reading "discourse" in the vtuber space where a bunch of people were getting mad at strangers on the internet for "trying to find a girlfriend at conventions" or "trying to find a girlfriend in vtuber/anime spaces" as if it's sexpest behavior, and it just so fundamentally pissed me off how socially reclusive people have become even when it comes to overtly social activities like going to conventions. It reminds me of my own attempts to make friends(and meet women) in leftist spaces and how completely avoidant everyone is. You can have 99 things in common with someone at a left-wing meetup and they'll still find an excuse to escape the situation when you strike up a convo and try to move beyond smalltalk. It's fucking depressing bro.
sorry for shitting up usapol I just had to get this frustration off my chest.
>>2897513https://time.com/6212698/nuclear-missiles-icbm-triad-upgrade/
>If a piece of equipment breaks inside Captain Kaz โDexterโ Moffettโs underground command center at the Alpha-01 Missile Alert Facility, itโs marked with a paper tag that reads either โwarningโ or โdanger.โ A few of those are hanging in this cramped capsule buried about 70 ft. below the high plains of eastern Wyoming. One is stuck to the shut-off valves that control water flow in the event of an emergency. Thereโs another one on a ventilation hatch. The entire command capsule itself is jury-rigged on top of steel stilts because the shock-absorber system, which was first installed in 1963 to survive a thermonuclear blast, is now inoperative. So thereโs a tag for Air Force maintenance teams to fix that too.
>Then there are malfunctions that arenโt marked. Moffettโs computer monitorโthe one that enables him to keep watch on a fleet of 10 nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs)โhas a flashing glitch on the bottom of the screen. His classified phone line has such a weak connection that he can barely hear fellow Air Force officers who are commanding more than 100 other nuclear missiles spread across 9,600 sq. mi. โYou can hear them pretty clearly if you stand on an angle, on one leg, and jump up and down,โ Moffett says, smiling. โItโs all part of the job. We spend a lot of time saying to ourselves, โHey, how are we going to make this work today?โโ
>Walking into Moffettโs capsule at Alpha-01 is like walking into the past. Banks of turquoise electronics racks, industrial cables, and analog controls have been down here since the U.S. military installed the equipment decades ago. Look closely at the machines and youโll find names of manufacturers like Radio Corp. of America, defunct since 1987, and Hughes Aircraft Co., defunct since 1997. Some systems have been updated over the years, but these advances are unrecognizable to anyone who lived through the personal-computer revolution, let alone the internet age. The entire ICBM fleet runs on less computational power than whatโs now found inside the smartphone in your pocket. When something breaks, the Air Force maintenance crews pull parts from warehouse shelves, pay a contractor to make them to specifications, or even occasionally scavenge them from military museums.https://www.kunm.org/local-news/2025-11-04/nuclear-arms-race-aging-los-alamos
>Now, the laboratory is under increasing pressure to meet the federal governmentโs ambitions to upgrade the nationโs nuclear arsenal. The $1.7 trillion project includes everything from revitalizing missile silos burrowed deep in five states, to producing new warheads that contain the pits, to arming new land-based missiles, bomber jets and submarines.
>But the overall modernization effort is years behind schedule, with costs ballooning by the billions, according to the Congressional Budget Office. In 2018, Congress charged Los Alamos with making an annual quota of 30 pits by 2026, but by last year it had produced just one approved for the nuclear stockpile. (Officials have not disclosed whether more have been made since then.) >>2897542>>2897546yeah most empires die slow. rome died slow, england died slow, america will die slow. there is no catharsis.
>>2897549Is there some kind of fucking filter on her eyes or something
>>2897553she's wearing colored contacts for cosplay but probably also using a filter/editing as well. cosplayers heavily edit their photos its normal.
>>2897455the anon you are responding to is correct in spite of your attempted subject change
>>2897549weeb provoking image
> it's kinda sad how leftists will preach all about "mutual aid" and "community" and "common good" right up until someone says hi to them on the street and then suddenly they'll run to Twitter to complain about strangers talking to them. Or if a friend confides in them about having mental health issues or being lonely, depressed, etc they'll just say "bro that sucks you should go to therapy" and just completely dodge your feelings. irrelevant time wasting strawman anecdotes
>>2897460in the context of Sandinista Nicaragua
>>2897546Wonder who's gonna be our Lithuania? My bets on either Cali, Texas, or one of the northeastern states
>>2897542worst way possible. wouldn't be great if it could be dismantled quickly and the damage it makes on it's way out could be minimized.
>>2897560>irrelevant time wasting strawman anecdotesyou know anecdotes are a valid way of sharing lived experiences. you can have discussions about things outside of turning every conversation into a debate where you attack someone for "not citing their sources". this isn't intended to be a debate. my bad for seeing leftypol as my friends I guess.
>>2897570I think you had a decent point
>>2897564I could see VT or NH trying to break away or go to Canada
>>2897413>this many months>mark kelly "we have 18 dead americans for no reason"they're still going with the 18 number huh. i assume it's way more than that by this point lol
>>2897570>my bad for seeing leftypol as my friends I guessYour actual point is well taken but please don't do this.
>>2897575They'll merge with unincorporated maine and become the appalachian free state.
>>2897570what made your anecdote time wasting was that you were using it to support a smear against "leftists" in general. if you presented your personal experiences with your friends as just that, that would be fine, but you were trying to make broader points about "the left" as if your experiences were the same as large sample size statistical data or something.
Like when I see a wall of text that starts with
>you know I agree people should be willing to sacrifice for the greater good, but at the same time this is not a common sentiment among leftists except when they want you to sacrifice for their benefit. and you support this argument with pictures of cosplay and rants about people who "run to Twitter" I just have to roll my eyes.
Bessentโs bond market intervention falls flat as turbulence continues
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessentโs announcement that the Treasury is going to double its buyback of long-dated US bonds from $2 billion to $4 billion has fallen flat. After an initial fall in yields, they have started to rise again and are back near the multi-year highs recorded earlier this week.
This was despite Bessent saying in an interview with the business channel CNBC that the buyback could be more than the $4 billion that he initially announced. The general sentiment in the market is that the growing bond market turbulence is not going to be calmed by such interventions because more fundamental issuesโabove all, the rise of US debt to $40 trillionโare involved.
There are growing concerns that the US is in a โdoom loopโ because of the rise in interest payments to more than $1 trillion a year, creating a situation where the government must borrow money just to pay the interest bill on past debt.
In the words of one analyst cited by the Wall Street Journal, the Bessent intervention was a โband aidโ and did not โreally fix the problem.โ
Another analyst told the Financial Times: โWe donโt really think this [intervention] can succeed in isolation. Interventions such as this look like a sticking plaster.โ
Bessentโs response to the marketโs thumbs down on his initiative was to try to bluff and bluster his way through the developing crisis. He told CNBC that the market had โgotten a little ahead of itself,โ and the Trump administration would be setting out a plan to reduce the budget deficit in the coming days.
โWe believe there are many underlying factors that the market is not looking at,โ he said.
There was a โvery good chanceโ that the deficit had peaked and that tariff income and a crackdown on fraud would lift government revenues.
Neither of these claims will be regarded as in any way credible. On the issue of tariffs, the Treasury is in the process of refunding large US corporations the billions of dollars they paid under Trumpโs โreciprocal tariffsโ imposed in April 2025 but which were struck down by the Supreme Court as illegal earlier this year. The total amount to be handed back is estimated at $160 billion or more.
โAll weโre trying to do is get people to focus on the fundamentals and not trade the headlines in a quiet period in a thin market,โ Bessent told CNBC, as if the problems in bond markets were a mere technical glitch.
The driving force of the turbulence, however, is that finance capital is focusing on the โfundamentals,โ namely the ever-worsening financial position of US capitalism.
Reporting on the continued selloff of bonds yesterday, the Financial Times said it underscored โthe deep concern among investors over the USโs mounting public debt burden and whether policymakers will be able to contain the eruption of inflation triggered by President Donald Trumpโs war in Iran.โ
That assessment was based on the comments of analysts cited in the article. Joe Brusulas, chief economist at the professional services firm RSM US, said that โwithout a shift to fiscal consolidationโ to be achieved through higher taxes and a slower pace of government spending, โthe buybacks will prove to be only temporary.โ
Analysts at the global Japanese banking and investment firm MUFG said the Treasury was โlacking a strategic planโ and warned that its intervention might worsen the problems rather than resolve them.
โThe danger now following this announcement โฆ is that it proves counter-productive and leads to reduced appetite for either holding US assets or reduced appetite for exposure to the US dollar, or both,โ they said.
Kit Jukes, head of global foreign exchange strategy at Sociรฉtรฉ Gรฉnรฉrale, doubted whether the intervention would hold rates down and said that as the debt rose and deficits remained high, the willingness to buy US assets โwill be a growing issue.โ
Such assessments have far-reaching implications not only for the US but for the global financial system, because the U.S. Treasury market has functioned as a safe haven in times of financial stress.
This is now being called into question, as noted by Wall Street Journal columnist Greg Ip. The upward shift in bond yields had a number of drivers, he wrote, including โstickyโ inflation and increasing AI-linked corporate borrowing.
โLurking in the background, though, is a more troubling possibility. Treasuries, long the worldโs preferred โsafeโ asset, are looking less safe,โ and in moments of stress, โthey donโt behave like a safe haven.โ
This is because the US has โflooded the market with additional debt,โ especially since the pandemic, and โthere is no sign that the flood will abate.โ
The turbulence in the bond market is extending into Wall Street trading. Yesterday, quant hedge funds, which use statistics, historical data and algorithms to make their bets, suffered what was characterised as their worst day in two years.
One of the factors was the near tripling of the shares of Moderna after it announced successful trials for the treatment of skin cancer. This hit traders who had shorted its shares, expecting they would fall.
Summing up the situation, one hedge fund trader told the Financial Times: โVolatility is exceptional, so options makers are losing money left and right. The market is rotating every day, so what makes money today is almost always down tomorrow.โ
The volatility follows what has been described as a โbrutal July,โ in which AI-related chip stocks fell sharply, leading to the collapse of the hedge fund Situational Awareness and delivering a loss to the major Wall Street trading firm Jane Street of $15 billion in a single month.
Wall Street was also hit by the announcement by Walmart, the largest US retailer, that its sales growth for the second quarter of the fiscal year ending July 31 was the lowest in six years. Its shares dropped 9.2 percent, with the Wall Street Journal noting that its sales data showed โa string of data suggesting that consumer spendingโthe key engine of US economic growthโis softening somewhat.โ
>>2897587eh, it's not intended as a smear against leftists, more a smear against americans/liberal culture that even leftists can't escape from because of how they're socialized.
people are really withdrawn, judgmental, and impatient these days in my experience. though maybe others have had different experiences and I'm the one doing something wrong in how i talk to people.
>>2897593well it sounds like you're describing americans in general and not necessarily leftists in particular.
burger leftychuds…
what will kill you first?- climate change (and associated temperature extremes)
- war (including attacks on civilians and infrastructure)
- disease (cancer, heart attack, etc.)
- poverty
- workplace accident
- car accident
>>2897575>NHNew Hampshire's economy way too dependent on Massachusetts to survive on its own. The only independent NH possible would be a breakaway state consisting of everything north of Concord, or more realistically the libertarian stronghold of Grafton County.
america will never collapse suddenly. america will never enter existential economic crises first. Why? Because theres a defenseless, wealthy imperialist state just north called Canada ready to be looted and gutted at a moments notice. When shit hits the fan yankees aren't going to let a silly little thing like imaginary borders stop them from using violence to prop up the empire, even against traditionally friendly neighbors. You have no right to be anxious if you're american, only if you're canadian or european
>>2897600I am more inclined to think American states will balkanize rather than join Canada/Mexico. The various regional states are extremely similar to eachother so it's kind of inevitable the US will split into the PNW tech bro luxury space gay feudalism, Midwestern Scandinavian welfare state, Northeastern EU clone, and Southern Fascist Confederacy.
>>2897605>LARPer keyboard warrior retardation The burger reich canโt even try to take Iran without eating shit and losing support from its own citizens, you seriously think Canadaโs gonna be remotely a viable option? Get real dude
>inb4 NOOOOOO REEEEE THE TREATLERS WANT WAR BECAUSE IM MAD AT TWITTER REPLIESRefer to my initial greentext
>>2897607Fuck off, rightoid. Nobodyโs buying your psyop
>>2897613Canada is a country of only 30 million people with a long undefended border whose military is entirely integrated with and dependent on the US. If the US decided to conquer it there's practically nothing they could do to stop them.
>>2897617Dude, this is not an RTS. The US is being run by morons that have exhausted their surface to surface missile supply and are about to exhaust all their other shit while thereโs rumors of attempted desertion leaking to the press.
They wonโt take Canada because they
canโt. theyโve fucked themselves logistically and the people in charge are actual fucking morons who think basic strategy and logistics are woke and gay. Itโs not happening dude.
Being evil is not a fucking magic spell
>>2897617Sort of. If the US just wanted to occupy Canada they could take the big cities very easily. If the US wanted to conquer all of Canada's territory it would be nearly impossible given how much land there is and how much of it is totally unlivable and would be perfect ground for a rural insurgency. The Canadian armed forces are aware of this and if America ever decides to invade we'd end up with a Canadian Jihad lobbing rockets and drones from Newfoundland into the border cities.
>>2897617You mean besides all the Canadian troops and vets that would know all the US systems and their weaknesses and would know exactly how to sabotage everything and have plenty of motivation to do so?
>>2897606>Southern Fascist Confederacy.Texas and Florida fascism are very different from each other. One is more Gusano-driven than the other.
>>2897614not a psyop. anyone here can search up Blรผher and look up his other works and beliefs.
while he WAS a rohmite and a pedophile , this passage here can adequately explain the phenomenon of those "kill your local pedophile" chuds turning out to be pedophiles themselves.
people who arent pedophiles dont need to show everyone else how heckin moralino they are by making statements about murdering pedophiles.
>>2897624> totally unlivable and would be perfect ground for a rural insurgency.what makes rural insurgency work is the land being livable. you have to be able to live off the land while doing insurgency
>>2897546I wonder what Oregon and Washington state would be like if the US Balkanized? Would they form their own nation or try to join Canada?
>>2897624also
>rural insurgencymy sibling in science rural insurgencies were common in the third world in the 20th century and in Europe/North America in the 18th/19th century. this is the age of the drone with infrared and night vision capabilities. you will be blasted out of the tree you are hiding in by a machine you cannot even see, in the dark, while shivering, and 500 calories under your daily subsistence
>>2897623they kidnapped maduro. yes they are currently failing in iran, but retards still need to be aware that america, despite not being a global hegemon anymore is still a regional one. Canada has three (3) mechanized brigades in total and one of them is in latvia. Canada cannot rely on china and russia for survival like iran has either. they are so fucked when america decides to invade, same with greenland
>>2897632Afghans had no problem operating an insurgency in "inhospitable" mountains for 30 years by building cave networks. The Canadian frozen wilderness would be extremely hard to invade and extremely easy to defend.
>>2897641afghan mujahideen were only able to take over the country because the CIA gave them missiles that took out soviet helicopters, and they assistance from rich Saudi wahhabists, and they got to keep those resources during the American occupation. Also there is a difference between Afghanistan and Canada.
>>2897642>>2897641America is not going to be able to reconcile with French speaking Quebecois, theyโll be too annoying and cause a retreat within 6 months
>>2897645Austro hungarian empire
German empire
Ottoman empire
Japanese empire
>>2897640>they kidnapped maduroare we still going with the entirely speculative theory that maduro colluded to have himself "kidnapped" or have we moved past that?
>>2897617A Yankee invasion of Canada would end with Quebec being independent
>>2897641>Afghans had no problem operating an insurgency in "inhospitable" mountains 70% of canadians live in the east in provinces with no mountains and most live within an hour of the border. it could not get worse than that
>>2897642and guess what Canada has all those things through decades of military alliance with the US. it's not like the Canadian military is some 3rd world warlord PMC. they have drones. they have a navy. they have aircraft. they have pretty much the same capability as Ukraine when it comes to repelling a much stronger military force, and I predict the situation would be even worse for the Americans because Ukraine is much easier to wage war in.
of course, as I said it would be trivially easy to take Ottawa, Toronto, Vancouver, etc and effectively overthrow the Canadian government within 24 hours. it would just be nearly impossible to project force outside the border provinces.
people think the US military is able to take over any place on earth by just bombing it, but they were only able to take over Venezuela because the Venezuelan government threw Maduro to the wolves. a real conflict between Canada and the US would basically just be Canada's military bombing American cities to dust while retreating into the wilderness as the US struggles to occupy Toronto and pretends they "won" because they drone striked the PM.
>>2897640>they kidnapped maduroBecause of an inside job. There was no resistance except for Maduro's Cuban body guards
>>2897658Nobody deserves a martyrโs death less than Mark KKKarney
>>2897654if america can find a comprador in leftist venezuela they can certainly find many friendly canadian bourgeois to open the door and welcome them in now cant they
>>2897661>if america can find a comprador in leftist venezuelaAmerica has been sanctioning and weakening Venezuela to its knees for even the chance to have a sellout for the country on top of the fact that Chavez did not get rid of the bourgeois and subdue them fully. Notice Cuba is struggling but doesn't have the same issues and even Nicaragua
What would even be the point in formally annexing Canada or Greenland? We already have the military bases and the markets of both are already open
>>2897670It is just cope. I understand the argument with Venezuela but Canada and Greenland makes no sense except just being excited by a map change
>>2897666im not arguing that. but americas been prepping canada (and mexico) for annexation for decades too with policies like NAFTA which scrapped independent energy policy that previous prime minsters had tried to implement. it's all one grand scheme, you can't forget the juiciest target of the bunch, canada is where all the imperialist money is, venezuela is poor and has nothing that can used to prop up the dying empire. If america took canada tomorrow 3/4 of the worlds mining company headquarters would be based here, exactly what would be needed to compete with China
>>2897675>exactly what would be needed to compete with ChinaThis makes it even clearer this is coping of a dying empire. Annexing won't save the US at all and
>>2897623 is completely correct about the leadership and institutions being completely rotted out
>>2897674Itโs just dabbing on the barely extant international institutions and projecting to everyone that youโre a psychopath regime that canโt be negotiated with or trusted at any level at all, itโs red meat for an electoral base in hospice, letting out a half satisfied wheeze as they nod off on the oxys their grandkids didnโt steal.
>>2897489>superstructure is more relevant than baseyour tiktok brain will die when the food runs out and the wet bulb temps come for you
>>2897599disease stemming from climate change, war and/or poverty
>>2897679The superstructure and base inform and shape each other, when the food runs out thatโll be experienced in an individuated way no matter how โcollectivelyโ itโs happening
>>2897652ottomans died slowly
the rest of your examples were all short lived empires that only lasted roughly 80 years and were basically peripheral in their day. the actual big empires of their time like the US, British, and Rome, collapse slow
>>2897677>nuh uhok solid rebuttal
>>2897660>>2897658lol most of canadian population lives within a few miles of the border, do you really think first world softies are gonna go live in the forest and do guerilla warfare?
>>2897685>sweden and finland both left outnorwaychads, I kneel
>>2897690Natives and rural Quebecois maybe, and the US is allergic to casualties so thatโll probably be enough
>>2897685If theyโre integrated allies you already have this by default
>>2897694there will be few casualties anyway if you conquer 90% of the population in like 3 hours
>>2897696If that 10% causes even 300 casualties in a war that most of the aggressing army donโt care about theyโve won. The Iraqis only killed like 1200 across all of GWOT and thatโs considered a Vietnam style disaster.
>>2897695thats not how that works. canada and euros are entered into contractual obligations like UNCLOS, arms trade treaties, mine bans, etc, treaties america hasn't signed. any policy wonk will tell you ownership of the land gives you infinitely more potential than 'integrated allies' (a myth btw, there have never been permanent allies or enemies in history, only interests)
they don't need to launch an all-out invasion of canada, because its own rightoids and spooks would do most of the work for them
>>2897696>there will be few casualties anyway if you conquer 90% of the population in like 3 hoursyou're absolutely retarded.
Canada would drop their entire missile arsenal on NYC and Chicago the moment the US starts marching troops to the border.
>>2897691Open Mike Eagle predicted this in 2013:
<Cause Google knows what's in my cabinetAnd Facebook logs all of my favorite sandwiches
<And what they need the damn data for<To analyze the shit they'd need a whole 'nother labor force >>2897685the ruling class would rather be rich in a global junykard than equals in a global paradise
why are we speculating a US invasion of canada? did trump say something retarded again?
in any case, it wouldnt matter, as canada is practically already a de-facto vassal state
>>2897723I think it started because some anons were celebrating the decline of the US empire and other anons were saying that the danger of the US lashing out at everyone is merely moving from Eurasia to Canada
>>2897726Especially when there isnโt nearly the amount of Canadian gusanos willing to pay money to make it happen unlike with Latin America
>>2897729the NYPD does not live in the regions they police because they are colonial occupiers not much different than the IDF, and they even serve the same Jeffrey Epstein class
>>2897732that is not contradicting anon's point at all… paid any attention to the conversation?
>>2897691McDonalds is building the basis for cybernetic planning and people are laughing.
>>2897757punk definitionally stands against the crowd.
alongside being gay, owning a dog, and using the QWERTY keyboard layout, jumping on the anti-datacenter bandwagon is one of the least punk things you can do.
>>2897752flawless ragebait template
>>2897752i rolled my eyes at it when I saw 40 minutes ago
>>2897752>>2897760>"stands against the crowd"so it's just transgressive contrarian aesthetic with no political-economic or class-conscious content? wow
>>2897767>contrarian aesthetic with no political-economic or class-conscious contentexactly
>>2897752>fellow kids if you want to be punk, join the army.Fuck off and die.
>>2897773no wifi on the ship so you kinda have to be there
fellas is it punk to marry and reproduce?
>>2897779idk how you got that out of
>>2897767 >>2897780yes, it needs spunk. how did you know?
>>2897605the retardation of posts like this make me truly realize how many people need to have their legs flayed from the knees down.
>>2897791no arguments? not a single one?
>>2897782 (me)
just a warning burgercrats, don't buy it. don't but beef or anything from cows for a while. you are gonna get killed. it doesn't matter how cheap it is, it's not worth it to get e. coli. or any class I food infection, food poisoning.
for a shameful moron like this? hiding the source of the meat? skip it.
>>2897796argentinian and brazillian beef is much better quality than american beef i can assure you
>>2897796i'd be much more scared of prion disease than e coli.
>>2897799how are you sure it's from Argentina or Brazil?
>>2897802>prionI haven't heard about any mad cow disease outbreak around the world.
another thing. I am sure we are going to see in our generation a massive earthquake in the San Andreas Fault.
<San Andreas fault reaches highest stress level in 1,000 yearshttps://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2025JB033213https://www.hawaii.edu/news/2026/06/10/san-andreas-fault-stress/>โThe conditions that determine whether the โearthquake gateโ at Cajon Pass opens or stays closed appear to be related to how closely the stress levels on the two fault systems are aligned with each other at the time of rupture,โ Burkhard said. โRight now, with stress at historically high levels across the region and more than 160 years elapsed since the last major rupture, the system is in a critically loaded state.โand it's gonna be a blast.
if it happens during the trump administration, it's gonna be a shitshow. expect him throwing toilette paper to the Cal plebs like in Puerto Rico.
>>2897812his ass is NOT helping california at all lmao. he tried to withhold wildfire assistance in his first term iirc.
>>2897605The US has like 15x our GDP. Even if they carted away the entire country and everybody in it it wouldn't stop a collapse if they lost their empire.
>>2897811>shows up>threatens violence>refuses to elaborateimperialist grindset
>>2897817they wont stop at canada, america will just do a molotovribbintrop and split the decaying canada/europe between them and Russia
>>2897814mmm… good point. but you can't overestimate the need for a show when thousands are under the rubble.
he doesn't care about people, but he cares about what people thinks about him. typical narcissist.
does leftyzog still deny k i k e rule?
>>2897824>being retarded enough to be a racialistHowโs that war in Iran going rightoid
>>2897824why are you here? shouldn't you be seething over iran winning on twitter?
>>2897827He probably thinks weโre winning because
@BASEDLOLIHITLER did some
HECKIN BASED NOOOOTICING >>2897782Who else does beef besides the U.S and Brazil?
>>2897723Reading the arguments you wouls swear someone is on kool-aid thinking an invasion of Canada will benefit the US long-term as if Canada and the US are not already integrated. Also Canada annexation would destroy the "balance" and lead to a blue takeover of the US. The argument then becomes Canada will be stuck as a perpetual territory but that is very doubtful due to the demographic of Canada
why has nobody killed him yet?
would it even fix anything?
idk much about america but you think out of 342,000,000+ people at least 1 of them would be opposed enough to being ran by a zionist zog puppet, paedophile, child murdering, fascist who seethes about commies and trans people all day while wasting billions on wars and building ballrooms
>>2897817Its not about gee dee pee and it never was, its the labour-time they can extract and the natural resources. US gdp is grossly inflated because the numeraire is warped by being a reserve currency and the overwhelming presence of the M->M' circuitry via FIRE sectors.
Canada has about 10% the population of the US and in principle could have their labour time extractef via unequal exchange though you dont need the marines marching down parliament hill to do that.
>>2897864>why has nobody killed him yet? >would it even fix anything? no. the romans killed their emperors all the time (far more often than americans assassinate their leaders) and it didn't stop rome from basically being a giant slave plantation that thrived off of raping 3 continents
>>2897874
the marines deserve it for signing up to die for capital despite having 18 years (at least) to learn what the military does, and what it is for.
>>2897859>Also Canada annexation would destroy the "balance" and lead to a blue takeover of the US. The state of Texas alone has 31 million people compared to Canada's 31 million total. Assuming that Canadians were even allowed to vote, flooding the new Canadian territories with Southern republican carpet baggers would be a pretty effective way of neutralizing whatever "blue" influence Canada would have, especially as climate change makes the south and western part of the US more untenable.
>>2897812Please god wipe out silicon valley
>>2897876>Southern republican carpet baggers would be a pretty effective way of neutralizing whatever "blueCalifornian colonization of Texas and Arizona already is making the Southwest a blue region. Southern carpetbagging will simply make the region completely blue dominant while trying to take Canada. Even as climate refugees, guess who that will benefit
>>2897847That metric counts water buffalo meat for some reason. Remember, cows are sacred in India
>>2897859>Also Canada annexation would destroy the "balance" and lead to a blue takeover of the US.Trump has already proposed an elegant solution to this, admitting half of them as republican and half as democrat
>>2897882Compensated for by eliminating all but the republican districts as population decreases due to climate change ๐
Since most of the people involved are americans (except for walden bello), I am posting this here.
>The Guardian has published an open letter to Iranโs political prisoners, signed by Angela Davis, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Rashid Khalidi, Robin DG Kelley, Ruth Wilson Gilmore, Judith Butler, Walden Bello, among others.
>These are not people to be dismissed lightly. Several have given their lives to the anti-imperialist and Black liberation movements, and one of them is writing from inside a US prison. I take no pleasure in disagreeing with them. But the letter is wrong, and plays an objectively harmful role.
>Its central image is the โtwo blades of a scissorsโ: the Islamic Republic on one side, US and Israeli imperialism on the other, with the Iranian people crushed between them. It inserts a symmetry between the worldโs major imperialist power and an anti-imperialist state that has never invaded another country, and which has stood consistently with the oppressed from Palestine to South Africa to Venezuela.
>The load-bearing phrase is this: โwe reject the false binary of imperialism and hollow anti-imperialism.โ Exactly how โhollowโ is Tehranโs anti-imperialism? ๐ตโ๐ซ
>For four decades, while almost every Arab government made its accommodation with Washington and Tel Aviv, Iran armed, funded and sustained the Palestinian resistance. It refused normalisation when the Abraham Accords put enormous inducements on the table. It has absorbed forty years of sanctions, assassinations of scientists, sabotaged infrastructure, and now an open war of aggression, rather than abandon that position.
>The states that normalised are not being bombed. Hollow anti-imperialism is a communiquรฉ and a hashtag. Iranโs anti-imperialism has been measured in the blood of 168 Minab schoolgirls, in the bombing of its hospitals and oil depots.
>One can vehemently disagree with aspects of Iranโs domestic politics, but the question at hand is: where do we stand in the global struggle against imperialism? What side of the barricade are we on? Do we support a criminal war of aggression waged by the US and Israel, or we we support the resistance to that war? Do we support genocide in Gaza, or do we support the country that has been the Palestinian resistanceโs most consistent ally for decades?
>This letter dissolves the distinction entirely. It asks us to refuse the choice. But in a war of aggression there is no third position available, because only one party benefits from your neutrality โ and itโs not the party being bombed.The letter appears in a British newspaper, six months into a US-Israeli war, at the precise moment when Washington cannot win militarily and needs the political terrain softened. It recycles a familiar vocabulary โ sham trials, systematic torture, the targeting of minorities โ without sourcing, in the genre that has preceded and accompanied every single regime-change war. Whatever the signatories intended, that is the function it will serve: making the moral case for war.
>Angela Davis was imprisoned by a state that told the world she was a terrorist. Mumia Abu-Jamal is imprisoned by that state today. These are people who know exactly what happens when an empire manufactures the moral case for crushing its enemies. They would not have signed, half a century ago, a letter denouncing both blades of the scissors โ COINTELPRO on one side and the Black Panther Party on the other.
>Progressive and anti-war forces have a duty to support Iran against war, sanctions, regime change plots and destabilisation.Letter:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/ng-interactive/2026/aug/20/iran-political-prisonersclosing statement:
>The Iranian authorities must stop their inhumane practice of death and incarceration now. And the US and Israel must end their barbaric wars and brutal sanctions that knowingly devastate our communities.anti-anti-imperialist ack-tion.
>>2897380why is she looking at Van Jones so lustfully? Wasn't he in the RCP or something before Obama ascended him?
>>2897854petite bourgeois infighting. They are not following dem-cent lol
>>2897895i guess i'm not voting then
>>2897838I don't know anything about this and I don't CARE to know anything about this.
With gambling and weed everywhere the new horizon is gonna be legal opiates and cocaine, they already have legal gas station/smoke shop knock offs of both anyway
>>2897902kaiserreichers in control
>>2897903id support legal cocaine
>>2897820>they wont stop at canada, america will just do a molotovribbintrop and split the decaying canada/europe between them and Russia<The US and Russia will make the greatest deal ever and split Europe when the opposite is actually occurringThe US is barely able to tardwrangle Israel and Turkey let alone being able to divide Europe. When the analysis is that the empire is dying, it means that the empire is dying out and retreating. Europe is one of the places where the retreat is occurring, which is also why there is an obsession with making the Western Hemisphere American-dominant because of the retreat
>>>2897549It's not a novel observation but the right calls themselves individualists but are quite collective (adhere to this culture, these roles, speak this language, follow this religion) while the left calls themselves collectivists but are incredibly individualistic (do whatever makes you happy). In fact if you try to tell leftists to live up to some social standard they're liable to just call you a fascist.
>>2897645>empires collapse slowlyPre-industrial society moved at a slow pace. Industrial empires collapse rapidly. The British, German, and Japanese empires fell quickly. Few people saw the Soviet collapse coming.
>>2897918anon was the USSR an empire?
>>2897918The British Empire was the first globe-spanning industrial empire, and collapsed slowly
>>2897918>It's not a novel observation but the right calls themselves individualists but are quite collective (adhere to this culture, these roles, speak this language, follow this religion) while the left calls themselves collectivists but are incredibly individualistic (do whatever makes you happy). In fact if you try to tell leftists to live up to some social standard they're liable to just call you a fascist.this is mostly the wires getting crossed between the "left" of the 1700s (liberalism, enlightenment, individualism, anti-clericalism… in certain rare cases anti-slavery) getting confused with the turn that the workers movement took after marx (class-consciousness, unionization, syndicalism, revolution, etc.)
then the pendulum swung back towards the former, as the incomplete aspects of liberalism became completed (queer liberation, intesersectionality, etc)
the "right" in America today is actually quite torn between its pro-business libertarian/ancap individualists and its trad, religious, nationalist halves. The latter has a lot more strength still.
>>2897923>collapsed slowlyThe British Empire was doomed by the early 20th century and WWI sealed it. Late Victorian Era was the peak of the British Empire and it collapsed from there when they started being in debt to the US after WWI. So Britain had really half a century of dominance before they started panicking about the German Empire and its industrial capacity that eventually crashed the British
>>2897928when the USA collapses do you think it will look more like britain or like nazi germany
>>2897929it will look like the fall of apartheid south africa with the entire billionaire class fleeing like rats to israel
>>2897939
>>Just a messenger
You're in multiple ML Discord groups. Just because they nodded at doxing you as a way to passive-aggressively demand you do something doesn't mean you're not aligned with them by sharing this. They asked you to post here because you were a weak link in these chats, they saw you conversating about leftypol on discord you moron. They're cowards who run niche tor OSes like TAILS and won't post here themselves when traffic is banned. That's likely because they're digital criminals and scammers (they sent houdini like 1200 through some girl), security conscious from drug market involvement. Most leftists are college students and don't know about this stuff unless they've been criminals or hackers. Be careful even talking to these people. You do one thing for them and it will turn into another. You'll be posting for life. I suggest deleting this and deleting discord. once you abide by this cult then you end up having to bend to their every request. they do it online and irl.
>>2897943and it's goneeee. Good boy you don't want to end up their little pawn. That paranoid anarchist/Maoist Wikipedia for gang stalking is getting shut down as we speak, they secured their servers, now we just isolate the campaign to link it to others. It's like a virus that never quite took off. That's why they're so salty hitting our computers, trying to get randos to re-link it here for them. They're desperate to get this schizphranic leftist gang-stalking Wikipedia more traffic and contributors. So far it's just a bunch of shady anarchists from south europe, and a few autistic maoists that just cant seem to spread the word. I wonder why ;) Juche lost, by the way. Just in case anyone was keeping score.
>>2897944>6:32>Donald Trump was acting in his own interests to build hotels in "New Gaza" and launder money through his son in law and not merely a pawn of Pissrahellsome anons won't like hearing this pretty basic marxism
>>2897902huey long was nazbol gang
>>2897957huey long was like… MobBol
Have you animals started campaigning for AOC2028 yet?
>>2897551>When something breaks, the Air Force maintenance crews pull parts from warehouse shelves, pay a contractor to make them to specifications, or even occasionally scavenge them from military museums.>scavenge them from military museumskek
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