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๐Ÿ—ฝ UNITED STATES POLITICS ๐Ÿฆ…

>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkkaโ„ข


<Lustful Turk at the RNC Edition

<Kirkeversary Edition
<9/11 Quarter-Centennial Edition



OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
๐Ÿ’€ ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison โ€” for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites // https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html
list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc // https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources
ICE Agent List (incomplete) // https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents
US Political Prison Tracker (last updated 2025) // https://uspoliticalprisoners.com/

Jailhouse Reading:

๐Ÿ“– Angela Davis - Are Prisons Obsolete? // https://dn790007.ca.archive.org/0/items/the-anarchist-library-full-list-of-pdfs-nov-2020/angela-y-davis-are-prisons-obsolete.pdf
๐Ÿ“– How to Defend Yourself During Police Interrogation // https://www.notrace.how/resources/download/comment-la-police-interroge-et-comment-sen-defendre/how-to-defend-yourself-during-a-police-interrogation.pdf
๐Ÿ“– National Lawyers Guild guide to being a jailhouse lawyer // https://www.jailhouselaw.org/
๐Ÿ“– Critical Resistance - Surviving Solitary Confinement // https://criticalresistance.org/resources/surviving-solitary/
๐Ÿ“– An inside-outside publication for abolitionist struggle & strategy across prison walls // https://criticalresistance.org/abolitionist/
๐Ÿ“– Prisonersโ€™ Self-Help Litigation Manual // https://api.pageplace.de/preview/DT0400.9780199705665_A35159258/preview-9780199705665_A35159258.pdf

โš’๏ธ LABOR!

Live strike tracker with deep stats on who, what and when // https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/
AFL-CIO [imperialist]'s Strike Tracker // https://aflcio.org/strike-map
Labor Bureau's Official 'work stoppage' tracker // https://www.bls.gov/wsp/
IWW timeline for the 20th century (ends at 1999) // https://archive.iww.org/history/chronology/
IWW Work Place Organizing Guide // https://usa.anarchistlibraries.net/library/industrial-workers-of-the-world-libcom-org-solidarity-federation-walthamstow-anarchist-group-wo
โ–ถ Salting | Work Place Organizing 101 (50 minute webinar) // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SHlCLyM4FY

โš–๏ธ Deeds of the Burger Reich ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

deep list of horrible shit we (royal we) have done // https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
Coups and regime changes โ€“ master list // https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
Wikipedia: United States War Crimes // https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes
/our boys/ (bring em home!) detail abusing Iraqi prisoners [2006] // https://www.hrw.org/report/2006/07/22/no-blood-no-foul/soldiers-accounts-detainee-abuse-iraq
More than 250 military interventions in the last 30 years alone // https://blackagendareport.com/us-launched-251-military-interventions-1991-and-469-1798
Visualisation of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade // https://www.slavevoyages.org/
UNESCO Sites relating to Slavery // https://slaveryandremembrance.org/
First Hand Documents of the horrors of Slavery // https://www.loc.gov/collections/slave-narratives-from-the-federal-writers-project-1936-to-1938/

๐Ÿ“บ Glowie News ๐Ÿ“บ

(sponsored by the Burger Eagle Freedom Institute (formerly USAID))

CNN Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX Live // https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg Live // https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us
Burger House Live // https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/
Local News // https://www.50states.com/ce/
Weather // https://www.noaa.gov/weather

๐Ÿ“บ Gommie News ๐Ÿ“บ

Jacobin // https://jacobin.com/
Black Agenda Report // https://blackagendareport.com/
The Grayzone // https://thegrayzone.com/
Leftvoice // https://www.leftvoice.org/
Newsanon Filter // https://leftypol.org/search.php?search=name%3A%22News+Anon+3.0%22&board=leftypol

๐Ÿ๏ธ Epstein's Client List ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ

Epstein's Black Book // https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
DOJ Disclosures // https://www.justice.gov/epstein/doj-disclosures
Track AIPAC // https://www.trackaipac.com/
Al Jazeera visual guide (2026) // https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/10/struggling-to-navigate-the-epstein-files-here-is-a-visual-guide

Essential American Politik ๐Ÿ“–

๐Ÿ“– WEB Du Bois - Black Reconstruction // https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/w-e-b-du-bois-black-reconstruction-an-essay-toward-a-history-of-the-part-which-black-folk-played-in-the-attempt-to-reconstruct-democracy-2.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Eugene Debs - Fourth of July Speech // https://jacobin.com/2020/07/eugene-debs-independence-day-address-fourth-july
๐Ÿ“– Power Anywhere There's People! โ€“ Fred Hampton // https://www.hamptonthink.org/read/power-anywhere-where-thats-people-fred-hampton
๐Ÿ“– War is a Racket โ€“ Smedley Butler // https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html
๐Ÿ“– Letters From an American Farmer โ€“ St. John de Crevoecoeur // https://americanliterature.com/author/j-hector-st-john-de-crevoecoeur/book/letters-from-an-american-farmer/summary
๐Ÿ“– Trail of Broken Treaties // American Indian Movement https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– The Declaration of Independence https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
๐Ÿ“– The Ballot or the Bullet โ€“ Malcolm X // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/ballot_or_bullet.pdf
๐Ÿ“– What to the Slave is the Fourth of July? โ€“ Frederick Douglass // https://www.gilderlehrman.org/sites/default/files/inline-pdfs/douglass_july_4_speech.pdf
๐Ÿ“– A Trail of Broken Treaties โ€“ American Indian Movement // https://www.usu.edu/mountainwest/files/bennion-workshop/trail-of-broken-treaties-20-point-position-paper-1972.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Custer Died for Your Sins โ€“ Vine Deloria Jr. // http://www.riversimulator.org/Resources/Books/CusterDiedForYourSinsAnIndianManifesto1969Deloria.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Emancipation Proclamation โ€“ Lincoln // https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/emancipation-proclamation
๐Ÿ“– Democracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville // https://americanliterature.com/author/alexis-de-tocqueville/book/democracy-in-america/summary
๐Ÿ“– Common Sense โ€“ Thomas Paine // https://americainclass.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Common-Sense-Full-Text.pdf
๐Ÿ“– An Indigenous History of the United States โ€“ Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz // https://nycstandswithstandingrock.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/dunbar-ortiz-2014.pdf
๐Ÿ“– Huey Long โ€“ Share Our Wealth // https://www.hueylong.com/programs/share-our-wealth/huey-longs-share-our-wealth-speech

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>>2913631
also, trump simply wants a cut, like with his tariffs. that's all.

Why is that there are still MLs after all this time and so many failures?

Why is it that Marxists tend to speak with so much arrogance and confidence? No such thing as "theory" exists in social "sciences"

>>2913692
>Why is that there are still MLs after all this time and so many failures?
modes of production tend to last hundreds of years. and all modes of production prior to capitalism were overthrown slowly and over long periods of time. Marxism as movement to consciously and deliberately overthrow capitalism has only been around for 200 years and actually showed up relatively early in capitalism's history.

>>2913697
actually not even 200 years. 2048 will be the 200th anniversary of the manifesto, but communism wasn't even theoretically mature until marx wrote capital and wasn't politically mature until the USSR was established.

>>2913697
What MLs propose is to seize power and guide the stupid masses to communism. Nothing to do with the simple observation that modes of production change over time. See this is my problem with "marxism", the entrenched ideas of a "historical progress" that conveniently ends in communism because we want it that way.

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>>2913704
well i'm not an orthodox ideologist of any stripe i just borrow from marxism what i find useful. which makes me an opportunist or vulgarizer or modernizer or whatever in the eyes of some people but i don't really care.

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>>2913651
If Christianity was a Roman psyop then why did they try so hard to stamp it out in the third century?

>>2913724
>>2913651
Also
>just spontaneously inventing a new version of their own religion
They didn't. Early Christianity bears significant similarities to the Essenes, a Jewish sect that preached pacifism, communal living, emphasized charity, and practiced baptism. This sect had existed for centuries prior to the emergence of Christianity.
>became based in Rome, didn't require circumcision or eschewing pork
Early Christianity wasn't based in Rome. Rather Rome was one of four major Christian centres that emerged in the first few centuries of its existence. The other three were Constantinople, Antioch, and Alexandria. Rome only increased in importance after the latter two were occupied by the Muslims, and Constantiople became the centre of a completely separate state following the collapse of the Western Empire. Even today, its really only of particular importance to Catholics.

Regarding the issue of pork, circumcision, and general adherence to Jewish law, this was actually a major point of contention among very early Christians. Paul and James argued about it frequently, with James arguing that followers of Jesus needed to strictly adhere to Jewish custom, and Paul (himself a Hellenized Jew) arguing that it was unnecessary. Given that Paul's version obviously appealed to more people, it's not surprising that it was more successful. The point though is that Christianity shedding its Jewish trappings wasn't predetermined, and was arguably the subject of the religion's first schism.
>Especially considering the military campaigns of Titus against the rebels in Judea parallels the life of Jesus in many strange ways
That probably has more to do with the literary traditions at the time, where the narratives of various "great men" followed a particular pattern according to established tropes. For example, Mesopotamian tradition holds that Sargon of Akkad was born in secret and placed in a basket in a river by his mother, not unlike the story of Moses.
>The alternative to recognizing that the gospels were written by Greek-speaking elites
Based on the time period, Jewish elites being Greek speaking doesn't really indicate a connection to the Roman state. Greek had been established in the region as the language of literature, education, administration, etc. for centuries by that point. In fact it probably would have been unusual to find any educated, literate person who didn't speak and write it.

>>2913724
cuz it backfired

>>2913743
>became based in rome
<it didn't start out based in rome
"became"

If Christianity wasn't a Roman psyop then why is the Vatican there? Checkmate.

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>>2913743
>That probably has more to do with the literary traditions at the time, where the narratives of various "great men" followed a particular pattern according to established tropes.
these weren't existing tropes. they were making new tropes up

religions in general are psy ops and cults and propaganda is made by the beneficiaries and leaders of the cult for the consumption of the contributors and followers but point this out when it comes to a "world religion" like christianity and people will get very upset.

>>2913743
the essenes would never come up with the trinity on their own. you know who would? a group of people who literally deified their emperors. vespasian "the father" conquered judea and left "the son" titus to destroy jerusalem. then the "holy spirit" of the church became the new pacifist form of judaism that was more acceptable to the conquerors.

>>2913768
It didn't become based in Rome until like 400 years later by which point Rome wasn't even the capital of the Western Empire. Even Constantinople didn't become especially important until Constantine moved the capital of the empire there over 300 years after Jesus died.
>>2913767
Yeah because it was structurally at odds with the entire religious ideology of the Roman Empire, which was based around co-opting foreign gods and getting locals to worship defied emperors. Christianity was totally alien to the Roman religious worldview in that it was strictly monotheistic and regarded the worship of deifief humans (other than Jesus) as blasphemy. It was inherently antagonistic to the way the Romans merged religion and the state. This is why Jews and later Christians gave them so much trouble in the first place. This theory only makes sense if you are completely unfamiliar with the actual cultural, religious, and literary context of the time and place in question. It's also completely at odds with how the Romans typically handled dissent, which was usually through a combination of naked brutality and bribing the local rulers. If Christianity was a psyop then it was the first and only operation of its kind in several hundred years of Roman history. Christianity can far more easily and readily be explained as an organic progression of pre-existing Jewish traditions merging with the broader Hellenized society that was well established in the Eastern Mediterranean.

>>2913775
>the essenes would never come up with the trinity on their own
They didn't and neither did Christians. The trinity was just one of several competing concepts that didn't become official doctrine until the fourth century.

>>2913776
>It didn't become based in Rome until like 400 years later
yet the flavians had direct connection to the church way before. then. it's the flavian hypothesis not the "rome in general" hypothesis. why does titus's niece already have a pope husband around the same time the gospel of mark was written?

>>2913704
>What MLs propose is to seize power
Yes
>guide the stupid masses to communism
No, this is you projecting

>See this is my problem with "marxism", the entrenched ideas of a "historical progress" that conveniently ends in communism because we want it that way

No, it's because that's the only thing historical progress can progress towards. The alternative is ruin. Unless you've discovered some kind of other alternative to the abolition of class society?

>>2913780
>why does titus's niece already have a pope husband around the same time the gospel of mark was written?
Are you talking about Flavia Domitilla? Her husband isn't even known definitively to have been a Christian.

the softer version of the flavian hypothesis is that early christianity was an organic religion with a real basis in the people of judea, but that the roman administration in judea merely favored it over more rebellious sects because it less militant than the zealots.

>>2913782
>No, this is you projecting
They should have said leading instead for a criticism that sticks. Other anon is a very stupid anarchist.

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>>2913786
it was like this basically

>>2913704
Your theory is liberalism, your brain is mush. I am not surprised you hate education

>>2913792
>>2913793
>u r lib
yeah everyone on here is a lib who calls everyone else a lib, what else is new.

>>2913790
I just don't see why the intervention of the Flavians is necessary to explain any of this. Pacifist sects already existed among the Jews and even among some pagans at the time, and its early popularity among oppressed people throughout the empire is explained by Marx's assessment of religion as the heart of a heartless world, sigh of the oppressed, etc.

>>2913796
because the flavians utterly destroyed the more militant and rebellious alternatives while having familial connections to the early church.

>>2913794
I donโ€™t give the talking stick to fatalist projectors who have still failed to suffer total ego death

>literally a rebel leader named "judas of galilee" around 30 years before the jesus story
>he is a leader of Sicarii rebels
>gets killed by the romans
>the new testament literally has a character named "Judas Iscariot" as the foil to and traitor of Jesus, whose life mirrors titus

<its just a coincidence you chud


>>2913798
>claims to have undergone ego death
>still begins sentences with "I"
curious

>>2913803
>The chud has also failed to take their medication today
Great

>>2913704
>What MLs propose is to seize power and guide the stupid masses to communism.
really? MLs here often tell me communism is impossible and we need le multipolarism first for 999 quadrillion years until the productive forces are ready
those MLs you described sound kinda based, I wish they posted here

>>2913797
>because the flavians utterly destroyed the more militant and rebellious alternatives
That doesn't prove or even indicate a connection, nor is a connection necessary to explain the emergence of a pacifist sect or its popularity. It also begs the question of why the Romans never did this in any of their other restive provinces.
>while having familial connections to the early church
I'm still not even sure who you're referring to with this. Again, Flavia Domitilla's husband is not confirmed to have been a Christian, let alone anybody of importance within the (extremely loose and decentralized) church hierarchy of the time.

>>2913806
China will hit the gommunism button in 20,050,000, trust me

>>2913808
They already have(socialism/lower stage communism)

>>2913800
Yeah and Egyptians and Mayans both built pyramids, proving that they're the same people! Seriously, this is extremely weak conjecture based on superficial similarities that aren't surprising to anybody familiar with the historical context.

>>2913809
>trust me bro

>>2913809
stop baiting comrade, I'm not in the mood, if you don't stop I will tell Beria to deal with your neo-bukharinoid ass

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>>2913810
>Egyptians and Mayans both built pyramids, proving that they're the same people
completely out of left field strawman. at least with the flavian hypothesis you have direct and sustained interaction between the two cultures in question, come on

>>2913815
>chadolai bukharin evil
>lavrentiy diddyblud good

>>2913805
go take it then

>>2913800
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>>2913820
convincing

>>2913822
convincing? I just wanted to call you a Retard

your actions gave birth to unexpected consequences

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>>2912423
>participation shouldn't be compulsory
well that's the paradox of governance. if mass participation isn't compulsory, the working class won't participate, because they are busy working. then you will have a class of bureaucrats who govern "in their name" and however representative their intentions may be at first, they will, over the course of time, develop their own interests separate from the working class. to prevent the decay of a representative system into an oligarchy, you need compulsory mass participation. the bourgeois revolutions all dealt with these contradictions in the 17th-19th centuries, but our so called proletarian revolutionaries on here refuse to acknowledge these problems even exist, ignore them, or dismiss them, and write contradictory poetic verses about how the proletariat will directly govern as a class, but totally not in a compulsory way, because that would be unfair, but at the same time they will not avoid their duties as the ruling class and give their responsibilities over to a class of representatives who decay into mere bureaucrats. You have to deal with this problem.

>>2911841
> live with your parents and don't spend money
my parents don't own a home, didn't raise me, and borrow money from me


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