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DAJ MI PIENIĄDZE (GIVAS MONEY) Edition (See second post)

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323740
https://azovlobby.substack.com/
https://banderalobby.substack.com/

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📺 • America, Russia, and Ukraine's Far Right - Gravel Institute
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📺 • The Nature of Putin's Russia and Its Causes (3-Part Series) - 1Dime
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If one wants to read an unwholesome partisan message into the KPRF’s push for intervention against Nazi saluters, a far less embarrassing one is suggesting they’ve a vested interest in bringing two regions full of Soviet Nostalgists into the Russian electorate.

Probably loads of reasons for the Russian state’s reluctance to intervene despite support for that within both Donbass and Russia, one of them no doubt is because Russia was already in the process of modernising their military and Euromaidan (perhaps intentionally) coincided with Russia having spent its budget on R&D for Armata, Kurganets, Ratnik, Su-57, Koalitsiya, AK-12, etc basically all of which got delayed or essentially shelved in favour of doing the standard thing of just modernising what Russia already has in stock, given the civil war could have boiled over at any time prior to 2022.

The Russian military wasn’t particularly prepared by 2022, so in 2014 when everything is due to be replaced by more modern, high-tech, lower production rate (aka more Western) machines and scrapped, I can’t imagine it would have been any more successful than 2022.

>>2918930
what civil war?

i have to admit, seeing a LGBT Russia but everything else is the same would be so funny.

>>2918950
The Ukrainian civil war.

>>2918951
So like most Eastern and Southern European states that joined the EU/NATO?

>"oh Putin, its me, your secret gay lover"
<"zelensky, i told you we cant meet up anymore, where going to get caught"
>"well, if im going to be caught with a gay lover im glad its going to be you"
<"sstaaap :4) "
>"come on, lets do this, lets get wild"
<"ok"

>>2918952
so basically >russia couldn't modernize it's army because it could invade ukraine at any time
eye-opening wisdom, buddy

>>2918952
>So like most Eastern and Southern European states that joined the EU/NATO?
not european but from what i believed arent most of them homophobic like poland etc.

>>2918520
>The West is after all fake and gay but neo-Russia will be real and gay. Let's not forget that it was Russia after all that send the first LGBT team to Eurovision and it was Russians who were outraged by archaic European prudes who considered underaged lesbians to be inappropriate.
russians stuff broom handles up each other asses and sit one another on beer bottles, not to even mention the wild gangbangs in their armed forces. if anything russia is aggressively gay in it's very core.

>>2918956
Yeah because the vast majority of countries like Poland are unchanged (exceptions being in major cities), but have EU-compatible laws that would make Poland be considered “LGBT-friendly”.

>>2918955
Your sarcasm depends entirely on the NAFO assertion that Russia invaded Ukraine on a whim, right?

>>2918961
your obfuscation relies on that very assertion, i rephrased it for you so you can see how absurd it sounds

>>2918964
No it doesn’t, the early 2010s represent the first time since 1991 that Russia was secure and financially flush enough to reform their military and they went all out producing prototypes to replace practically everything. Coincidentally around that time, events in its biggest European neighbour result in an extremely militaristic and hostile government who is willing to open fire on its Russian population, for which any response was going to result in economic sanctions by the West who are apparently thrilled by the events in Kiev.

Now that financial and military security situation for Russia has been completely flipped and they’re now having to rethink if the downtime for retooling all their factories to serially produce these prototypes and retraining their existing forces to use them is a wise idea given such a suddenly hostile environment.

Perhaps your ignorance isn’t around the circumstances but rather what an undertaking adopting a new military asset is, let alone an entire complement of them.

>>2918967
oh nyo russia neighbour decided it wants to follow a different path than russians see fit for them. how fucking could they do that to russia's finance and security, the nazis!

fuckers basically tricked us to invade so we;d get sanctioned

>>2918970
>>2918972
Wow you really had nothing, did you?

please explain why ziggers are completely incapable of accountability, preferably without using the slogan >purely socioeconomic reasons

>>2918970
When taking a different path involves killing hundreds of children in the east of Ukraine via bombs xD

>>2918975
It’s fine that you’re absolutely fucking clueless about very basic military considerations, it’s just trying to be sarcastic about stuff you’re entirely ignorant on is a mug’s game.

>>2918972
I mean to be fair, Trump’s not a hard man to trick

If an anti-campist wants to for some reason praise this masterstroke by NATO in essentially halting Russia’s military modernisation and putting them back in the position of relying primarily on Soviet-era designs (albeit with some upgrades), then I suppose they could.

>>2918981
early 2000s trump was some guy that cameoed in home alone 2



>6 milion dead dombabuean kids
>which you used as meatshields
>ukrs do that as well
love this loop

>>2918997
You didn’t read the post

>>2918999
i did the first time you posted was as trivial back then as it is now

>>2919001
>I refuse to understand the difference
The foundation of anti-campism

>>2919008
i understand your false dichotomies perfectly well i just refuse to accept them, especially in a post which you ironically started complaining about false dichotomies
kindergarten eristic

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>>2919016
You’re a retard if you genuinely think
>Being targeted in your own home
Vs
>Commandeering someone else’s home
is a false dichotomy

2 more weeks of the anti-terrorist zone Ukrisisters we're close!!

>>2918997
>>2919016
Also that’s not what a false dichotomy is. I’m not sure what the correct term would describe a lib trying to reduce the context for a question down to binary yes/no answer, so that the answer can be yes or no for both sides.

Like what I assume you want is to reduce the question down to
>Did Donbass rebels use civilian structures for cover?
and any more context, like said structures being their homes which a national military was advancing on, is supposedly a triviality you’ll refuse to account for. The Ukrainian military are now no worse for turning schools and hospitals into military installations because the “Donbabwean” rebels didn’t have the decency to accept their towns being shelled unarmed.

>>2919018
gru-funded separatists used civilians in donbabue as meatshields, hence the civilian caualties - girkin admits to that and he'd know he personally ordered it
after 2022 russians did that as well, it got captured by patric lancaster who's literal shill for donbabue but too stupid to know when he's showing something he's not supposed to show
it's the exact same thing you accuse ukrs of doing except you claim ukrainians target civilians at their homes which adds another layer of irony since the only people targeting anyone at home were the donbabuean separatist between 2010 and 2022 while fighting their little mafia wars
and russians indiscriminately droning ukrainian commieblocks day in day out of course.

a binary choice/claim >urks bomb civilians, >orks don't bomb civilians is a false dichotomy (regardless of whether the statement is true of false)

>>2919025
>2010 and 2022
<2014

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>>2919021
12 years of the massively successful anti-terrorist operation. Ukraine is winning. Trust the plan.

>>2919025
>gru-funded separatists
<Iranian-backed Palestinians
Not interested in a take based on conspiracy theories that are convenient for those presenting it, I.e Kiev and Tel Aviv

>>2919026
That’s not the point being made. The point is you trying to equate the Ukrainian military installing AA missiles next to apartment blocks, turning schools into barracks and parking military vehicles in shopping centres all over Ukraine, with Donbass militiamen being amongst their homes they’re defending from Ukrainian attacks.


If you really can’t see the difference, then you have to consider that Ukraine simply chooses not to evacuate the civilians they’re installing military equipment on top of, while evacuating everyone out of Donbass is entirely Ukraine’s goal so they can exert sovereignty over it.

According to what Girkin apparently said, you’re suggesting that the militiamen should have stepped out into a field, let the Ukrainian military shell them and once they’re all dead freely roll into Donetsk?

>>2919056
>Donbass militiamen being amongst their homes
word except those that were russian, georgian, azeri, turncoats from other parts of ukraine etc whose homes were they hiding in?

>>2919074
>word, except I have more conspiracy theories
So GRU funded and with volunteers from all four corners of the globe… they’re putting Ukraine to shame with all this international support.

>>2918951
>i have to admit, seeing a LGBT Russia but everything else is the same would be so funny.
That's why it's going to happen. Russia will go from trad to woke but remain essentially the same.

The Ukrainians are infinitely more based than the rest of Europe because at least they believe in their own country enough to violently resist the nuclear power trying to control them for 12 years. Meanwhile, Trump yells at a European country and (except for Spain) they capitulate while cope-posting about how sucking Trump's cock is a good thing. They don't even believe in defending themselves. It's why they insist on keeping Ukraine fighting Russia for as long as possible, because they KNOW, even though they'll never admit it, that unlike Ukraine, if Putin defeats Ukraine and then came knocking on their door they'd capitulate without a fight just like they do to Trump.

The history of the T-90M tank, call sign “Krepyish,” which withstood more than 40 drone strikes and several magnetic mines during a 12 km march in the Dobropillya direction.

The vehicle’s observation devices and gun were completely disabled, but they were unable to destroy it. Eventually, a “Baba Yaga” drone dropped tear gas on the tank, forcing the crew to evacuate. The tank crew managed to escape to an old trench, from which they walked for several days to reach their own lines. The crew was awarded the Order of Courage.

Such incidents are no longer isolated – modern combined anti-drone systems significantly increase the survivability of combat vehicles against kamikaze drones with small payloads. For example, the Polish publication Defence24.pl, citing the words of the commander of the 1st Corps of the National Guard, Denis Prokopenko, reports that it took approximately 125 drones to stop 2-3 Russian tanks.

>>2919334
>they believe in their own country
Half of Ukrainians escaped Ukraine at the first opportunity

>>2919397
If anti-drone defense systems on tanks become developed enough so that they will be able to close the distance between themselves and the enemy drone pilots, we might see armored breakthroughs appear just like how it was during WW2 and the frontline will start rapidly shifting.

>>2919638
Russia about to advance to kiev any minute now for almost real this time

>>2912895
i actually think you're NAFO. you say a few correct things and then mix it in with extreme exaggeration and reactionary bullshit to make it look bad.


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